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Just how fucking perfect is this game going to be?

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I don't like the graphics for DQXI on the PS4, looks dead and lifeless

the 3DS version looks better imo
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im going to buy both the 3ds and ps4 version
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Coming to the west in 2018.... which part of 2018?!
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It's going to be perfect on the 3ds.
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PS4 for me, I like my games not looking like shit.
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>>386691852
I might do this.

Gonna run through one, and if it's good enough I'll play through the other.
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>>386691467
>looks dead and lifeless
This means nothing to anyone but you. Either actually explain what's wrong with how it looks or just don't say anything at all.
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>not even 10 posts in and console war faggotry is in full force

I'm so sorry OP. Just delete the thread and try again later.
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>>386693717
Then why did you buy a console?
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>>386689946
idk, u tell me
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>>386694638
Look at them soulless tiddies.
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>>386694293
>Implying OP didn't make this thread while thinking on console war faggotry
Come one, bae.
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>>386691467
>tl note: i am a consolewar faggot who needs to justify getting one version over the other
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>>386694143
Playing in 3d and 2d mode at the same time is objectively one of the most brilliant thing ever.
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>>386694143
It just looks bland asf
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>>386694364
Is it on PC?
Oh no that right no dev want to bother with PC when they release a solo game because of hackers and steam.
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>>386695671
This game will be ported on PC, wtf are you talking about fag?
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>>386695864
>this game will be ported on pc
Holy lmao this delusion
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>>386695864
>DQ Mainline
>PC

lmao
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>>386695864
show me the source than you little twat.
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>>386696158
DQ X is on PC fucking faggot, and I'm sure l SE will port every mainline game on Steam just how they did with FF
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>>386692232
The same part as KH3
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>>386696274
Still not confirmed of course, but nowadays even my grandma's ass is on Steam, so I think a DQXI port is a pretty safe bet to make
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ayy lads lookin to start playing dragon quest what game should I star twith? heard 7s pretty good
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>>386695310
I have a PS4 and a 3DS
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>>386696343
MMOs always get ported to PC, that doesn't really mean much. Literally none of the other DQ games have PC ports so there is no precedent.
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>>386696697
VIII is pretty much designed for people new to the series. Besides that one, I, III, and V are good choices as well.
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>>386695472
Except you can't play them both at the same time, except at the very beginning. About 30 minutes into the game you have to pick one or the other
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>>386689946
I dunno, I don't live the look of the protagonist, the rogue man don't look too interesting either. In a bit afraid that Boobs McGee might be a new Jessica. And u don't live dragging around on children. Might be good though, will getting it
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>>386696929
wtf are you talking about?
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>>386697093
You have to choose between 2D and 3D in the 3DS version. Only the beginning of the game lets you see both at the same time. You can switch at churches after that.
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>>386697259
Wtf you black person?
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>>386696819
So? The fact that there are no games on the platform right now doesn't exclude the possibility to see some of them be ported in the future.
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No PC no buy. I only have a PS4 for 1st party exclusives.
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Great so far.
I'm surprised. I guess its true that tastes change over time.

I just wish the music was a little better. I like it and its full of charm, but I wanna get hyped up during battle and have some catchy dungeon themes.
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>>386697818
It... doesn't look good imho
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>>386697417
1) nobody in Japan games on PC
2) Squeenix has completely given up on DQ in the West so there's no incentive to port to Steam for /r/mustard race, either
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>>386691467
The PS4 version is what the 3DS version would look like if the 3DS could handle it.

They could have made the PS4 version look like the 3DS version and improve on aspects like draw distance and such from there, but they chose not to do so.
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>>386698149
>Squeenix has completely given up on DQ in the West
>2018 western release date confirmed
Ok...? This game will be ported on PC eventually, it's a fact my little cuck.
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>>386696343
>DQX
>MMO
>MMO not being on PC

you're proving my point lmao
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>>386698481
don't reply to shitposters
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>>386698560
DQX is on PC fucking cunt, wtf are you talking about?
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>>386694143

I know what he means, its the clash of artstyles I think.

The world doesn't suit the characters, looks more like its made in unreal engine 3
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>>386698131
Visually?
I think it looks stunning.
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>>386698736
No, clashing artstyles is mutually exclusive with being soulless.
If the art were soulless you wouldn't even notice a clash if any, because they wouldn't stand out at all.
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I bought the double pack, mostly been playing the 3DS version in 2D mode though, it's really nostalgic and fun.

I think I also kinda like the 3DS version of the combat better, on PS4 you can play more re-actively and that makes it kinda really really easy.
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>>386691467
>DQ11 announced
>Only Sony showed off a trailer
SE better not fuck us over with the 3DS. I would love to buy both (add Switch to that too) but would mostly focus on the 3DS version.
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>>386698807
That's a dude crossdressing, isn't it?
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>>386698807
No.
>>386698845
This.
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>>386698736
I think if it's what the 3DS version looked like, you wouldn't be able to shut up about how beautiful it looks
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>>386698720
Haven't passed highschool English yet? He's saying of course it's on pc it's an MMO.
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>>386698807
No, it looks really off, they really fucked up on that one.
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>>386698970
I disagree.
They mesh perfectly fine.
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>>386699040
It's not really "of course", the game was a Wii exclusive for two years.
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>>386691467
I wish you were dead and lifeless.
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>>386699143
Mmmh no sweetheart, it looks like a fucking mess imho.
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Question. Does Martina wear the divine bustier at any point?
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>>386699245
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Why are 3DS nerds console warring? I'm getting this shit on 3DS because I don't have a PS4, i'm under no illusion that it looks better in any way. Is it false flagging or something, nobody can be this dumb.
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>>386689946
I heard people making comparisons to Bravely Default, in that it runs out of content halfway through. Can anyone who has played speak to this? I can tolerate a little rehashed shit here and there, but not on the level of BD. Never again.
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>>386699407
I'll be getting the PS4 version because Martina gets my dick sprung but the 3DS version genuinely looks comfy and nostalgic, which is really the whole point of the series
I guess that just means I like both?
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>>386699407
Its shitposting. You can tell because they're literally using feelings as an argument. "It looks lifeless" and "it doesn't have charm" are pretty much the most baseless arguments you can make since you can't argue "charm"
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>>386698845

No in this case clearly not.

It clashes cause the environment has no soul, unlike the characters.

Thats why I said the world doesn't suit the characters it just looks damn generic.
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>>386699407
You lack basic artistic taste is all.
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We are getting a English switch version, right? I almost want a justified reason to buy a switch but can't yet. If the Switch gets Dragon Quest XI and Shin Megami Tensei V I would buy one instantly. I have a 3ds but don't want to settle with a inferior version, and a ps4 just doesn't have much else that appeals to me beside Bloodbourne.
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>>386699032

I don't really care for polygon counts so that might be true.
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>>386699292
On youtube there was a video of her doing all her sex appeal themed moves in all of her available costumes. Lewdest one was a bikini, though she also gets the bustier and bunny suit which is nice. Sadly video title was all in moon so I don't have it.
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>>386699665
Well, you can legitimately like the looks of the 3DS over the PS4 version. Hell, the 3DS version technically has two separate versions, either one of which might appeal more to someone than the PS4 version.

I personally like the PS4 version but that's also an opinion. The main problem /v/ has is that most of you want your opinions to be facts. There's no objectivity when it comes to video games. Everything you think about them are ultimately how you feel.
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>>386699663
>>386699736
Look at this
>"nostolgia"
>"comfy"
>"artistic taste"
All non argument's. Don't take a couple of salty pickles seriously.
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>>386699407
The game on the 3ds is aesthetically coherent, it's charming, nostalgic and gives you the opportunity to play in 3d and 2d mode in the same time.
The ps4 version, on the other hand, looks like a generic UE4 jrpg made by Toriyama worst slaves.
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>>386699968
Don't quote me as an example asshole I have no horse in this race.
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>>386698807
cancelled my 3d order for the ps4 version :)
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>>386699663
I'd definitely get both if I had either a ps4 or 3ds. Getting all cozy in bed and playing DQ on a console is a helluva time. Hopefully I'll have a ps4 by the time XI releases.
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>>386700040

But that's my damn quote?
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>>386689946
Never played a DQ game but could they have not gotten someone else to do the work instead of Toriyama?

Game art looks too much like Dragonball instead of something original.
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>>386700310
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>>386700310
>Game art looks too much like Dragonball instead of something original.
Basically Toriyama in a nutshell.
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ps4 version for me
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>>386699143
The background looks like it clashes with the character and monster style. Look how close to realistic the rocks and cliffside look and then look at the slime. It's really weird looking.
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>>386700310
I know. I want to be interested in the series, but the art style is such a turn off.
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>>386700079
I'm not saying the PS4 is definitive, but the PS4 version looks stunning to me. Much better than playing on a small screen too.

>>386700310
>Not liking Toriyama style
Sure it does look like DB but you gotta love his character and monster designs.

And everyone knows Toriyama girls are S+ Class Tier. Even the random NPCs
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>>386700485
I don't get it, you want the rocks to look cartoony or something?
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>>386700449
Look, an inferior version of a game and a masked faggot in the same picture
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>>386700449
Theye're fucking sony lapdogs of course they're gonna hold that version
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>>386700310
>>386700391
>>386700498
If you don't like Toriyama, you don't like Dragon Quest, simple as that.
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I just hope the PS4 version sells enough to warrant continued development with that level of graphics, because I vastly prefer how it looks. I've had enough of the 6th gen look
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>>386700628
This is the very true definition of child abuse
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I've been meaning to give dragon quest a try, where should I start, with the first?
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:3
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>>386699872
This one, by any chance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UcVdnXrSpE
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>>386700746
5 or 8 flip a coin
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>>386700692
>If you don't like Toriyama, you have good taste, simple as that.
Fixed.
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ps4 best version
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>>386700607
You can tell they were trying to make a style to match the characters but it didn't work out and became far too realistic. Yes, what I'm looking for is to make the general world look a bit more on the cartoon style side just to make it look more coherent. Right now it looks like you have cartoon designs in a realistic-esque world.
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>>386700607
Yes, it's called coherence.
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>>386700025
>nostalgic
>charming
>aestheticly coherent
Opinion discarded and placed in the garbage disposal.
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>>386699407
I'm gonna get both because I have both consoles :^)
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>>386698149
Citra 3ds emulator 8x res 16x aa and Save state
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>>386700797
Would you look at that...
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>>386700692
It seems that way. Which is a shame. The art is just so bland and generic.
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>>386689946
8/10 game probably
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>>386700868
What is this, gamefaqs?
Take away Toriyama and you lose a third of what makes Dragon Quest Dragon Quest.
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>>386700902
>>386700995
Doesn't look overly realistic to me, especially with all the cartoon characters walking around. Some rock textures doesn't change that, and the whole thing looks way too brightly colored to be easily seen as too realistic.
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>>386701017
Looks like PC wins again boys, let's go home.
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>>386701031
HOLY SHIT.
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>>386700805
Yeah, that was it.
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>>386700485
They don't look ultra realistic so it doesn't bother me. I get what your sayin' but they're still definitely cartoonish looking and not mega real so it isn't as jarring as you're saying it is. At least to me anyway.
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>>386701053
It's the exact opposite of generic, his style is unique and distinctive.
Even you singled it out as "Dragon Ball" instead of dismissing it as generic anime.
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>>386701031
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>>386701150
Some things are looking like they mesh just fine, to me it's just the outside that looks really off. The grass and the mountains in particular just look like they need to be toned down a bit int he realism department.
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>unironically thinking this looks bad
shitposting is against global rules
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>>386701292
I guess you're referring to something like this?
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>>386701162
Not me. But his style is to somehow make everything look bland and generic. All of his stuff looks like everysingle other thing he has ever done. Since he has done so much it is generic kinda? Something about the art and character design is just kinda... generic? There is nothing special about them kinda. Nothing interesting maybe?
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>>386701294
Since when DQ has become a Hyperdimension Neptunia's spinoff?
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>>386701391
That looks like it fits more. Could just be the field areas that are throwing me off. >>386701360 is the same kind of deal where it looks like it fits but at the same time looks like the characters clash with everything.
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>>386701419
Again you don't seem to have a solid grasp of what generic means.

But that's enough replying to trolls for one DQ thread, post more comfy screenshots and cute waifus pls
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>>386701360
It doesn't look "bad", it just looks "wrong".
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>>386700692
I hate Toriyama but like Dragon Quest. Toriyama's art itself is ugly and stiff, and has only gone down in quality over the years, but it's also colourful and (used to be) rounded and fluffy, which works really well for a goofy video game world like DQ.
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>>386689946
What's the point of hyping this? It doesn't come out for another year.
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Toriyama's designs are so light hearted and inviting... how can anyone hate it???
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>>386698964
No I think it's the chick that stuffs her top with slimes to make her tits seem bigger.
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>>386698807
>Abandoning your post to follow a chick who winked at you
Is he going to rape her?
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>>386701549
Once you've actually played the game and you've seen the game world up close and not just screenshots, they really do not clash. It might appear at a distance that there's this ultra realism going on but it isn't. Everything is about as cartoony as the characters, and most objects actually have that celshading line around them too if you look really closely

Plus the characters have a fair amount of detail too. They're far more detailed than DQX. I was getting uncanny valley when I first saw them because there are parts of them that look amazingly real. Everything except the toriyama eyes pretty much
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>>386701717
Everything looks the same, he lost his touch 30+ years ago.
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>>386701419
If you can pinpoint his style, it's anything but generic. That means he's doing something right, and it also means you're scared to admit you might just like it deep down.
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>>386700485
This.

Also the grass looks off too.
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>yfw her husband is a 400lbs manlet
Life isn't fair

>>386701549
Maybe it's something that you'll just get used to seeing in motion. It really doesn't look jarring to me at all, but perhaps my tolerance is higher to these things.
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>>386701565
It is generic in the fact that he has like 5 reskinned females and males he just recolours in everything he does. Even sonic has more interesting designs then him.
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>>386689946
The game is pretty good and a good showcase of the unreal engine, the ps4 is a must imo the 3ds version is meh.
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>>386689946
It would be but unfortunately it uses antiquated turn based combat. What a shame, it looked interesting otherwise.
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>>386701868
He has the easiest one to pinpoint woth the thick lines and every character looking the same. He has done it for so long that anything new and original has turned generic and dull. Doing the same shit for so long would have a lot of people losing their edge.
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>>386702108
You're not really paying attention if you think every character looks the same.
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Is there a way to import the Jap version for less than $80?
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>>386702308
amazon.co.jp if you can get them to ship to you
I had it pre-ordered just fine but apparently they're not shipping to the states now. Kinda weird. You might get them to fix it if you complain
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>>386702215
The guy on the left literally looks like the DQXI mc with pulled back hair
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>>386702308
I don't think so.

I bought it with discount coupon at play-asia and it still went over 80€.
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>>386702435
The XI mc would look better with pulled back hair, really.
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MC looks shite
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>>386701596
>it just looks "wrong".
I'm riding a bumblebee, your argument is invalid
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>Dragon Quest thread
>Dragon Quest girls
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>>386701662
https://www.gonintendo.com/stories/287116-famitsu-review-scores
He's most likely referring to the fact the famitsu score.
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>>386702531
Can't wait to play it on the 3ds then
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>>386702435
I reiterate: You ain't paying attention.
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>>386701017
>>386701115

The point was to get the best version.
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>>386691467
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I've been playing DQV on PS2, am I supposed to get fucked up by the Statue in the castle?
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>>386702536
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>>386702653
hmm how is remote play for this?
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>>386702639
This is probably the most out of context post I've seen on this board.
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>>386702653
MODS!!!
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>>386702215
Considering the armor on what looks like the two mcs are almost exactly the same as the tunics and shit in 11 and what looks like the other games. Or the fact that the curled ponytail with a ribbon has been used a few times.

I mean, they are all kinda like those paper dolls you have a few hair cuts and outfits for that he shuffles around and picks a different color.
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loving dq11 ps4 but i hope the game isn't too short

anyone else keep visiting that puff puff npc? i love how disappointed your party members look after
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>>386702531
are there any turtle monsters to ride on?
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>>386691467

A typical /v/ response
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>>386703098
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>>386703013
I'm about 30 hours in and I'm not even half way through apparently

It's hard to tell playtime because there's no way to stop the ingame timer. It keeps going even if you go to the ps menu
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>>386703062
So far I've ridden inside a mechanical egg, on a bee, and on some monster bones. And a horse of course. Each of them have a special ability, like the monster bones can climb walls and
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>>386703213
>It keeps going even if you go to the ps menu
The fucking worst.
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>>386703173

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDFmTIjaYqQ
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>mfw I realize you can dualwield boomerangs
Holy shit, and I was about to dismiss camus as a total turd
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>>386703173
Anybody got that webm of her dancing?
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>>386703213
>It keeps going even if you go to the ps menu
Even FFXV doesn't do that and it's from the same developers. Why in the world do devs love to do this?
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>>386703624
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>>386703480
You can?! Holy shit! Time to stop focusing on the daggers!

>>386703213
>It's hard to tell playtime because there's no way to stop the ingame timer. It keeps going even if you go to the ps menu
Fuck. I've been going to the PS Menu during small breaks. I thought I was 12 hours in. Guess not.
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>>386703746
So why is she dancing anyway? Is this like that dancing bug shit in DQ8?
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>>386693717
But the 3DS version looks better in every conceivable way
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>>386703480
Who the fuck is camus?
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>>386703856
yeah ,3ds is aesthetically coherent, it's charming and nostalgic
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Did anyone make a chart yet of the best way to do your skills? Or are people still messing around with it?
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>>386703908
A miserable pile of Absurdism
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>>386701001
Just got to this point. Almost died when i saw Zombie-chan. She so cute
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>>386701859
Is the same touch as 30 years ago
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>>386703892
translation: This is my father. He is excellent at Pafupafu.
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>>386703173
Any sexy costumes?
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Does anyone else feel like Dragon Quest music feels really samey? I can't think of a single memorable track from the entire series, don't get me wrong I love the series, but I really feel like Sugiyama is holding it back from being better
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>>386704040
(*3*)
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>>386689946
Never played a DQ game but this one has my dick in charge. When is this coming out in burgerland?
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>>386704097
Excellent, you say?
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>>386704190
I said so.
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>>386703848

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ygpX5DNl1A
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>>386702436
>I bought it with discount coupon at play-asia and it still went over 80€.
That's because Play-Asia is terrible for buying imported games. They add like $20 to the base price automatically for no reason (Just take a look at any "The Best" prices for example, you can get them for like half that price simply on Amazon.com let alone .co.jp), the shipping is EMS prices for SAL speeds, their discounts only really drop it to Amazon.com or eBay prices, and so on.

Want an example?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017ASN9C0/
http://www.play-asia.com/kamen-rider-battride-war-sousei-memorial-tv-sound-edition/13/709div
You will get the former in less than a week, the latter in a month, and you will get free shipping on the former while the latter is a minimum of $12-20 for SAL.

Or how about another?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S5V5ETI/
http://www.play-asia.com/sayonara-umihara-kawase-chirari/13/708h4h

This isn't even taking eBay into account where I got the Battride War Genesis Memorial Edition for $50 brand new and it was shipped to me in three days for free on a Buy It Now sale, not even a bidding one.
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>>386703987
Now just LOOK at that charm. Gorgeous.
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>>386703827
>You can?! Holy shit! Time to stop focusing on the daggers!
You unlock the dual wield ability in the dagger section so you still need it

Also there's a 2nd ability that improves dual wield (makes both weapons as powerful as if you held one, I think) and I'm not sure where that is on his grid
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Kamyu is so cute
I don't mind the no-voice acting at all but sometimes I feel this hearty dialogue would benefit from it.
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>>386702536
DQ threads are perma ruin because of 2 things. Console warfags and the literal trip nigger attention whore
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>>386704286
What's your deal, Chen?
How do you always managed to arrive in what seems like every single Dragon Quest thread, and always with cool videos to post?
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>>386704286
Man that's great. I'm glad Jap devs are using the UE4 engine more. Wish there were more games with this sort of art design.


Really want the western version to have an orchestral OST and some VA
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>>386704313
Thing is Amazon doesn't ship to my country so I have to use play-asia. It's also way cheaper than importing through the retailers in my country which would be 100€ instead of 83€ I paid on play-asia.
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I know this is a thread for 11, but I'm going to be starting up a new game of 8 soon and was wondering what skills I should put points in for my party this time around.
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>>386704501
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>>386704541
STOP M8

DQ threads aren't about conflict, they're about the enjoyment of DQ
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>>386704629
You could always try yahoo.co.jp or Mandarake, though Mandarake only has stuff directly at launch or years after the fact. What about eBay as well?
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>>386694293
>Try again later

Nigga this is the state of nu-/v/
Best just to leave this shit hole
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>>386704712
So the blue haired Goku is a pedo.
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>>386704130
Being consistent thematically is not a bad thing

I always remember
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oqyYqJafzks
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1gj7DJ3NwOc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl_PRg9iaZ4
and of course
https://youtube.com/watch?v=H_9hR-Sg4bg
and the loading/new game jingle among many many others

I really don't get this "DQ has shit music" meme
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>>386704845
>blue haired Goku
Um.
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>>386704712
Mah nigga Kamyu
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>>386704771
Yeah, go away fucking sonyfaggot
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>>386704501
is the overworld song getting real repetitive for you too?

i'm really hoping we get orchestrated music and voice acting.i just got that gay guy on my team and all his scenes would have been better voiced.
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>>386704895
They all look like the same character.
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@386704932
>unironically being a consolewar faggot
not even worth a (You)
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>>386704563
Where the shit do i get the other half of the cat costume?
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>>386705034
It pretty bad actually
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>>386689946
As long as it gets voice acting and real music it's going to be the best JRPG since the PS2 days
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>>386705130
It's*
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>>386704954
Yeah it is, along with the battle theme.
I'm not a big fan of the soundtrack but I wasn't expecting it to be great in the first place.

I really love the Homura Village theme though.
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>>386704563
second kid from the left really fucking loves his hair
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>>386704557

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucrb2i1y-c0
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>>386705045
Enjoy your shitstation
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>>386705303
Why can't you speak, Chen
Every word that comes out of your mouth is a youtube link
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>>386705374
you can't be serious
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>Dragon Quest 11 on 3DS and PS4
>I still have to play DQ 7 and 8
>Dragon Quest 1, 2, and 3 on E-Shop
>fuck it, Dragon Quest Builders II because why not

It's a fine time to be a DQ fan.
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@386705390
enjoy being an underage faglord

oh and enjoy your ban too
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>>386704762
Yahoo and ebay both go above 90€ after shipping fees. Mandarake doesn't seem to have the game at stock but I might be using their site wrong since this is the first time I've used it.
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>>386703746
>bunnygirl dance
holy shit
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>>386705510
>ban
HAHAHA
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>>386705462
They've done it before and they'll do it again
>>
外人は死ぬまでスカイリムとウィッチャーやってればいいんじゃねえの
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>>386689946

If it doesnt' get voice acting, it can't be the perfect game.

Graphics look amazing though.
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>>386705549
Is Tori a barafag?
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>>386705670
I know, it's just... so wrong.
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>>386705742
who gives a fuck about voice acting
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>>386705670
i have this but its real sticky
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>>386705813
DQVIII fags
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>>386705812
There are no brakes on this crazy train
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Cute!!

>>386705501
Is builders a game where you randomly build shit like Minecraft? Or does it have a purpose? I've always been curious.
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>>386705813
it only feels that way on ps4
like you have these huge budget cinemas that look great and then no voices
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When is the game coming to the west on ps4?
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>>386705958

It's actually both. I hear it's supposed to be a "better" Minecraft because of way more interaction. I played it a little bit but I wanna try.
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>>386705987
Post the literal shark and literal sea turle on the armor and weapon shop
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>>386705958
Builders. For all intents and purposes. Is DQ mincraft. But with an actual plot. And some arguably say it's better in a few ways,
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>>386706013
Probably summer 2018
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>>386706013
2018
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>>386705958
its a preset minecraft with chapters
really good for one playthough but you'll miss the random world generation minecraft has
hopefully the sequel has it
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>>386706013
Next year, but we don't know what version is getting localized, or if both are.
If only one is happening, my money's on the 3DS version, considering how it sold more in Japan.
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>>386706296
The video confirming the localization was posted on the Playstation Youtube channel.
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>>386706128
>>386706135
>>386706296
>2018
First P5 now DQXI? Why do the nips hate us?
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>>386696697
Just starting to get into the series myself, 7 is a fucking slog. I quit around 15 hours in because I reached the part just before jobs and couldn't take it anymore. 5 has been amazing so far, but I'm only 5 hours in.
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>>386706296
only ps4 version was announced to be localized so far
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>>386706401
Oh. I didn't know that.
Well then.
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>>386706421
lol western DQ fans are used to japan hating us
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>>386706421

FFXV had a world wide release.
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Voice acting when? I am tired of text only
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>>386689946
somewhere between not at all and entirely
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>>386706421
Learn moon, bitch.
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>>386706421
>Ace Combat 7
>DQXI

2018 is going to be fun
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>>386706618
>XV
I'm still not sure if I even like that game or not shit was such a mixed bag. Square enix please get your shit together.
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>>386706805
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>>386706732

Translation: I have ADHD.
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>>386706428
7 is probably the one I'd least recommend to newcomers, so good call there.
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I'm kind of disappointed that only a few of the equipments change the character's appearance. I haven't even found one for the hero yet
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Do we know if the game will be censored or not?
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>>386707376
If it was it already is, Cero is cracking down on shit hard now and SE requires mainline DQ to get the lowest rating possible in japan
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>>386707376
its already censored
they based the outfit changes on dq8 3ds
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>tfw holding out for the Switch version
>might cave in if the western release comes before it
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>>386707642
fuck, they censored that outfit too
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>>386707552
>>386707671
>already censored
Fucking gay. Why is west so against sexy women in media.
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>>386702506
somehow i think he's what a Crono descendant would look like.
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>>386707895
>west
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>>386707895
Self-censorship is usually out of a desire for broader appeal

This are kid's games, if you want to see tits then watch some porn
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>>386707895
Japan.
We've been saying the Jap rating board Cero is becoming more strict, its the reason why DQ8 3DS has altered outfits.
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>>386706805
I ordered the jap version and can't into kanji. How fucked am I?
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>>386702215
>literal bulma with purple hair
>adult goten with short hair
>future trunks with different hairstyle
>no.18 with long, red hair
Y-yeah... so different... haha...
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>>386708130
Well DQXI uses a lot of Hiragana.
So much that its kind of jarring to me. If you can into grammar, you'll be kinda fine but you probably won't understand most dialogue or the story if you can't into kanji.
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I got puff puff from Ragnar.
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What FPS is it on the ps4?

Is there any difference playing it on a reg ps4 or ps4 pro?
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>>386708694
30fps on both
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>>386708694
it's 1800p on pro and 900p on regular
otherwise it's the same, solid 30 fps either way
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>Maximum smug
>Everybody is stupid but me
>Shittalker to rival Kamyu
Veronica is based.
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I'm not gonna read the whole thread, is this game good? I want to get it but it's really fucking expensive.
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Onsokumaru, can you tell me if the game on your regular/slim ps4 looks better than the screenshots?
I was expecting the game to look much better than what Im seeing right now... Im really looking forward to the game too.
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>>386708975
Can you please stop posting end-game equipment? It's kinda spoiler-y
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>>386708794
First time ever I've seen a sword breaker in a vidya gaem.
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>>386708948
If you like DQ, you'll love it
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>>386709072
Looks fantastic.
The screenshots diminish the visuals a bit, and of course it looks better in motion. Though I think it still looks great in these screenshots so maybe its just me.

I'm on a reg PS4.
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>>386691467
>game get different versions for 2 consoles
>one has 3D graphics like all the updated DQ games since 5+ years ago
>one plays traditionally like an old DQ game or most DQ games in general
>butthurt fanboy has to throw in the word soulless to justify his insecurity for his console receiving the "inferior" version

just play on whichever one you want you fucking piece of shit, everyone and their mom who's not poor as shit has both the 3DS and PS4 so pick your fucking poison
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>>386709338
alright thanks, I suppose I will have to wait and see with my own eyes but I already think P5 looks amazing so maybe DQXI looks even better?
>>
I never played a DQ game, what's the best one to get? I have a 3ds and a ps4
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>>386708731
>>386708772

Thanks bros.

I wish they coulda made it 60 fps but oh well.
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>>386709530
3DS has every game
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>>386709530
DQV is great place to start I think.

It's a snes and DS game so you should be able to play it.
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>>386709624
>NDS has every game

FTFY, 3DS library is shit in comparison
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>>386709624
but what's the best one to start for someone that has never played any? I heard 8?
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>>386709703
The DS only has 1-6 and 9 on it
the 3DS has 1-11
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>>386709707
5 or 8
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>>386709703
I didn't know DS has 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 10, and 11
3DS, meanwhile, has all eleven mainline games.
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>>386709475
As someone who also thinks P5 looks amazing, DQXI does indeed look even better. May not be as stylish but so good.
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>yfw 3ds is japan only
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>>386709970
DES
PA
CITO
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>>386709874
Shut the fuck up onsokumaru
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>>386698149
>nobody in Japan games on PC

Meanwhile the highest leveled steam user is a jap
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>>386704923
You should make like those Gokus and jump off of a waterfall. If 8, you should just shoot yourself.
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>>386709970
>Can't fuck
Fuck you, Square and your force "Childhood friend always winning" propaganda
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>>386709154
okay doing this shit
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So the 3DS version and the PS4 version are the same game.
The 3DS version can be played totally in 8-bit mode.
Doesn't this mean that the PS4 version is just a really really graphically updated version of what is technically an 8-bit game's design? So there's no clever use of 3D space in dungeons or towns or anything? Can somebody confirm this please or am I mistaken
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>>386710321
Its hard to pull the trigger but it's a fun game. I'm glad I gave it a shot.
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>>386691467

To be fair, I do love the PS4 look of the game but I would really enjoy having a 2D version to play it NES style also. That part is Nintendo exclusive yeah?
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>>386710321
How's the 3DS ratings? Maybe the Nips do hate it since the PS4 version is selling less, and DQXI only boosted PS4 sales for one week.
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>>386700485
I see it now
Japan: Loves the game 40/40
West: 7.5/10 everything good but visuals
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>>386710384
It's 16bit, and that's not true. Each of the three game worlds (PS4, 3DS, and 16bit) are similar, but highly different from eachother. Each world makes use of it's system's capabilities really well.
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>>386710506
Uncle, is that you?
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>>386689946
I can think of one thing they could change...
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>>386710321
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>>386710594
Phew thank god, so a dungeon in the 3DS version and the same dungeon in the PS4 version are actually designed slightly differently?
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>>386710384
>>386710441
>8-bit
>NES styled
This board gets dumber by the second I swear to god. It's obviously trying to go for the 6/3 remake look, but even then it's probably not even constrained to SNES limitations. That said it's pretty cheap that the enemies don't even animate like in the 3 remake.
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>>386710384
There is a feature in dungeons where you can ride on enemies to get to otherwise unreachable areas. There is also tons of areas to explore and junk. Dunno if any of that is fully accessible in the 3DS version though.
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I'll pirate it on the 3DS, if they ever port it to the PC I'll buy it no matter the price lmao.
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>>386710674
Pretty much.

>>386710696
It's an honest mistake, anon.
Also, while the main style of 16bit mode is made to imitate Dragon Quest 6, battles are more like Dragon Quest 5. That's why there's no animation, and why the battle window is small.
I agree that they should've went with 6's style for battle as well.
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>>386710812
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>>386698149
FFXIV and DQX are popular on the pc. There are copious amounts of other non AAA titles on pc for japan. A shit ton of fan made stuff. Last but not least, a gorillion amount of porn games on the pc.
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>hero
>kamus
>loli
>martina

dream team for the whole game.
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what do
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>>386710953
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How does it compare to VIII? It looks like it's going for a similar style, but personally I don't care for VIII. Shitty hallway dungeons and the story spends so much time on random NPCs that you don't give a shit about, that the main 4 barely get developed despite being literally the only party members in the game. Also I can't believe they didn't orchestrate the music for the PS4 version, no excuse for that shit.
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I've never played a Dragon Quest game and know nothing about it other than Akira Toriyama did the art for it.

I'm pretty excited to pick it up for ps4
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>>386710918
this fuckin
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>>386710425
Cute!
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>>386711027
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>>386710918
>this image
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>>386710425
>>386710501
It is done. I'll play a bit tomorrow.
>>386710669
Shipping and taxes tho, digital is cheaper.
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>>386711201
The preorder bonus equipment is pretty worthless.

Its not even unique, you can buy more of them.
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>>386705684
英語喋れ
どうせ下手くそからできないたろwww

Tl: Speak eng you dumb nip
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So how is the Jap reaction to this game? Are they liking it?
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>>386711440
Let's Fighting Love !!!
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>>386711130
NICE
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>>386711403
It beat out Final Fantasy 15 in sale in a fraction of the time. The 3DS version is also more popular.
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>tfw still haven't beaten DQ1

The grind is unreal.
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>>386689946
>You can't marry loli or the semen demon
DROPPED
Call me when they release the remaster version

And I thought they have learned the lession from DQ8 Jessica
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>>386696459
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>>386701031
you're good
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>>386711596
Which version?
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>>386711658
NES.

I know SNES and GBC are easier, but I love the look of the NES version the most.
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>>386711403
they liked it
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I hope the western release has amazing VA like DQ8. It adds a lot of character but I'm not the kinda guy who thinks no VA is a dealbreaker.
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>>386711703
Oh. Shit. Guess I can't say anything other keep pressing on anon.
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>>386711605
Let me marry Rou first.
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>>386711201
Have fun, meng.
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>>386689946
Too bad it shits the bed midway through and pulls a bravely default.

It pulls a Bravely Default where you go through a bunch of recycled shit. You very slowly gather up all your party members again and all the better ones are at the end so you're stuck using shit characters like Row. Sena cuts her hair and looks ugky and Veronica dies.There basically aren't any new areas, you're just going through the same ones again. It sucks because it would've been one of my favorite games ever if it just stopped halfway through, even though it'd be a little short. At the very end of the games, you go back in time and prevent the second half from happening, which is what should've happened in the first place.

RIP DQXI, the game literally retcons itself making anything you do pointless. Why do people think this format of padding a game is acceptable?
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>>386693717
Don't bother with any. DQ11 is the worst DQ.
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>>386711605
One's a child the other is your blood related sister.
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>>386711770
WHO CARES ABOUT FUCKING ENGLISH NIGGERS DUBBING DRAGON QUEST

I know this is bait but fuck somewhere inside me the autism compels me to be a little angry with this shit.

Nobody cares about VA on DQ, even worse english voice acting.
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>>386711978
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>>386711978
Don't diss Rou. He's the cutest party member.
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too bad the game was made for faggots and the MC is canon gay
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>>386711978
stale pasta
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>>386711440
>>386711524
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>>386712108
nice twitter pic
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>>386712238
>t-that's not true
prove it
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>>386712250
I already fapped today, no more, please....
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>>386712181
I didn't think this game could get any gayer but it just did.
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>>386712108
>ホメロス
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>>386712612
>w-who a-are y-you q-quoting f-faggot?
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>>386712181
This is without a doubt the gayest shit in any JRPG ever. literally pride parade.
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>>386712794
So no proof?
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>>386712181
holy gay
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>>386712891
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>>386712891
I want to impregnate this semen demon.
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>>386698560
Weren't the first two DQ games on PC though?
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>>386712181
yeah I'm not playing this faggot shit
dropped
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>>386689946
For those of you considering the Switch version;
Would you rather a downgraded PS4 version or an enhanced 3DS version
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>>386713268
>For those of you
Get this reddit shit out of here.
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>>386713268
I'd like a version that I can play portable and on the tv
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>>386712181
So SJW faggotry finally hit Japan and DQQ11 is full of that shit? God what a travesty, game could have been good if not for this. rest in pieces dragon quest
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>>386702653
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>>386712181
Ugh
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>>386713320
are you fucking kidding me? What isn't reddit these days? you must spend a lot of time there to know this shit. kys
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>>386712181
>people were excited for this faggot shit
pffffft
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>>386712181
any girls in dq11 were made irrelevant the second they decided to inject literal gay shit into the game and on the mc
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Is there more than 4 party members/a wagon? Are there skill points like 8 and 9? Is there tension?
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>>386713838
It's jokey japanese gay shit though
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>>386712181
Can't wait for this faggot trash to bomb in the west.
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>>386712250
I didn't like this bitch's normal costume cause of the color but her other costumes are pretty great.
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>>386713975
>it's just a prank bro i'm just sucking your dick as a prank
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>>386712181
enjoy your faggots dqueens
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>>386701001
So wait why are monsters allowed in this academy?
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>>386712685
>>386712837
>>386713053
>>386713196
>>386713725
>>386713838
>>386713987
>>386714053
>>386714223
It's painfully obvious this is the same person
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>Decide to order DQ XI and play it now mostly because I want to play it, but I'd also like to get it done before C93
>I'm going to be on vacation during 93

Fuck!
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Is Martina's fisticuffs good or should you just go with claws/spears?
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>>386713875
There are skill points. It basically works the same as 8 except its a different UI.
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Does anyone have side by side comparisons between the 3ds and PS4 versions? I play all the DQ games on handheld but the graphics on the PS4 are enticing me to go with that version.
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>>386714969

Would you like a video with all her skills?
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>>386714771
No
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>>386714771
yeah this is pretty pathetic.
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>>386715053
These have been posted a few times. Comparison picture coming in 1 minute
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>>386714771
>only one person can see this gay shit in dq
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>>386715093
Sure! Seeing the sex appeal skills are fun and all but that's all I could find.
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>>386695994
>>386696158
>DQX on PC
>DQ Heroes on PC
>Unreal Engine 4
>selling tons

I'll be amazed at how absolutely retarded SE would be to not port it, especially since we'll be able to emulate the 3DS version of it sooner than later.
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>>386715053
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Why doesn't the Demon Lord hire evil monster tamers to raise an army of monsters with maxed out stats and optimal skills like in the DQM games and then release them out into the wild for adventurers to fend off?
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>>386715218
It's a Brazillian carnival you closet case
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>>386715285
>>386715210
>>386715053
It's comfier to play with the old style visuals and map design but the console version is there if you're a graphics whore who really wants blurry aliased 900p in his life.
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>>386715237
>DQ Mainline
>MAINLINE

also

>Japan
>PC

Pick one
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>>386715221

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcOdCTjal3I
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>>386714771
Do you have proof?
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>>386715356
Brazil doesn't exist in DQ, it's just a gay pride parade for gays. They know their audience.
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>>386715386
>enjoying eye strain
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>>386715390
>DQX is mainline
Keep grasping man it's funny seeing you consolefags lose exclusives every month.
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>>386714771
It's painfully obvious you're a faggot trying to defend your faggot game.
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Is there any reason not to buy the slightly cheaper Asian version of DQ XI? Would I still be able to buy DLC from the Japanese PSN and use it with the Asian version of DQ XI?
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>>386715438
>>386715502
>>386715568
all me
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>>386715210
>>386715285
Wow. It looks good on the piss poor but I feel like the world will be jarring when its next to these anime characters and creatures. Like imagine if they made a photo realistic Zelda game. Will probably opt for that version though.

>>386715386
Oh its way more comfy to play with the handheld version but the console version looks like it'd be a newer experience. I've play a lot of DQ games on handheld after all.
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>>386706878
Wouldn't it be the opposite? With text-only you can blaze through easily, but with VA you'd have to actually sit and let the actors perform the lines.
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>>386715386
The console version is there if you like it better, which you have every reason to
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>>386715542
I'm not saying you should play it on a 3DS, you'll be able to emulate it soon.

But yeah, you're playing a 900p UE4 game so I guess you know all about eye strain.

>>386715637
The level design in particular really puts the portable version above the console one in my opinion.
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>>386715398
>those fucking dual-attacks with puff-puff
haha holy shit
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>>386714771
>DQ isn't gay see look at this random girl!
Nah bro it's gay.
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>>386715356
It's still fucking gay you closet faggot
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>>386715637
There was a discussion about that earlier and there are tons of screenshots and webMs posted. Look through them and decide.
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>>386715637
>the world will be jarring when its next to these anime characters and creatures.
It's not like it's celshaded anime.
Look at: >>386715542
Look at the details on his clothes. The textures and polygons counts of the characters and monsters fit right in with the world. I don't know where people are getting this "it doesn't mesh" horseshit from. It looks exactly what you would expect a pseudo-realistic cartoony world to look like
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>>386708021
>>This are kid's games,

That's fucking asinine reasoning. The other games had plenty of tongue-in-cheek cheesecake and fanservice without it being a problem. Don't make fucking excuses for Japan's retardation to crack down on things due to the Olympics.
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>>386712181
HAHAHAHAHA THIS is what DQ is now? Oh how the mighty have fallen.
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>>386715869
Because it's not horse shit, there's clearly a distinct difference in environment and character shading, it was the first thing EVERYONE noticed looking at the game running in Unreal.

Same deal for KH3.

eg>>386699143
Looks a bit jarring. Just like those fan made Nintendo game's rendered in UE3.
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>>386715752
>>386715847
also me
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>>386716048
oh and this one >>386715993
really proud of that post
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>>386715993
the saddest part is seeing people defending it
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>>386716020
Again, there is nothing photo realistic about the backgrounds. It meshes just fine.
Of course, its in the eye of the beholder, but its a "problem" being blown out of proportion.
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>>386716048
DQ shitters really are insecure
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>>386716160
It's just one guy accusing everyone of being a samefag.
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>>386716181
>Again, there is nothing photo realistic about the backgrounds.
Who said there was? Autist.
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>>386716219
Closeted homosexuals really are insecure
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>>386716160
>>386716292
both of these posts are mine copyright me 2017
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>>386716342
Yeah like all these DQ shitters
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>>386716020
I think you're just confusing some of the enemies being too shiny with lack of the same level of realism. Some of the monsters just look like they're made out of plastic because they're supposed to
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>>386716292
What does he have to gain by doing that? Anyone can see it's gay shit.
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>>386716478
>because they're supposed to
Because they're poorly stylized in Unreal.
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>>386716567
>(((Unique poster counter))) stays the same
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>>386716567
probably mad everyone is laughing at it? dunno but he seems mad af
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>>386716020
>Just like those fan made Nintendo game's rendered in UE3

THIS. It's like those videos of DBZ, Ocarina of Time and Sonic with unreal engine. Granted it's not as bad as the examples but damn it does look kinda off in a way the more low poly art style doesn't. Although I'm sure I'll get used to it.
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>>386716568
It's ok for some enemies to be shiny. They're not all like that, it's just the slime types
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>>386696708
I have both plus pc and xbone, then a ton of retro's
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>>386716478
>they're supposed to
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>>386716659
It's SE literally cutting game dev budgets. They're outsourcing to UE and barely stylizing their games.
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>>386689946
It'll be perfect as long as I get to marry her
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Dont think Ive ever seen a shark shopkeep before.
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>>386716797
But it's not really as bad as it's being made out to be.
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>>386716653
Why would my post contain a new unique IP when I'm having a conversation here?

>>386716654
That's pretty pathetic.
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>>386716797
>They're outsourcing to UE
You have no idea what you're talking about
Using a pre-existing game engine isn't outsourcing your artwork.
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>>386716816
what does she look like in the 3ds version?
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>>386716816
You can't. MC is confirmed gay also that's his sister
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>>386716797
>They're outsourcing to UE and barely stylizing their games
What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>386716797
No it's just UE4 being a piece of shit. DQ11 had a massive budget because they made the game 3 times.
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>>386717137
lol
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>>386716935
She's much more charming
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>>386717137
UE4 is a great engine and SE did an amazing job considering this is basically their first time using it. Super solid framerate and graphics that put many AAA games to shame. Can't ask for much more
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>>386717196
They made a full scale console version, a chibi 3D version and and 2D sprite version. That's 3x the budget of 1 game because you're making the game 3 times. It's budget was massive and it had a fuck huge marketing budget in Japan too with celebrity advertisements everywhere.
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>>386716901
>>386716948
Wow you're fucking dumb.

>Outsourcing is a practice used by different companies to reduce costs by transferring portions of work to outside suppliers rather than completing it internally.
Japan as a whole use to make engines internally but they don't have the talent or money for that now, so they outsource.

>>386717137
UE4 is fine, the budget would have been much higher without it.

>>386717360
>super solid 30fps
>900p PS2 visuals
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>>386717360
900p and looks barely any different than the DQ musou games. No.
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>>386717456
You're a complete moron if you think all 3 versions had the same budget. The PS4 version is likely 90% of the production budget. The 3DS assets were probably outsourced, considering how lifeless they feel. And let's not even mention the dull sprite artwork
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>>386713320
This thread's about to die, but I just wanted to stop by and let you know that you're a jackass.
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>>386717526
You're shitposting a little too hard friend.
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>>386717526
Using an engine is not outsourcing. The entire industry does it. Japan is just incredibly backwards. By this logic you could call it outsourcing for making 3DS and PS4 games. I mean, they're relying on Nintendo and Sony hardware to reduce costs, now they're "outsourcing" consoles instead of making their own right?

What about the plethora of codecs and programming tools. They didn't write those either, so it's outsourcing right?

I know what outsourcing means and you're using it in a way that is pedantic as fuck. There's no company that doesn't outsource if you're going to be that literal
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>>386717547
You should really see an optometrist

Where did the sudden influx of shitposting come from? I'm going to get back to enjoying the game now, I really hope you guys enjoy whatever version you're playing, they're all great
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>>386717775
>Using an engine is not outsourcing.
Herei s your (You). But yeah man go for that semantics argument, really makes you appear smart.

>>386717692
Not an argument.
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>>386717886
But he's right. DQH literally looks better as a matter of fact but all 3D DQs share the same style.
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>>386718026
Not an argument.
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>>386718026
I hope you find whatever it is you're looking for, my friend
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>>386710959
>dat massive booty
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>>386712181
wow what the fuck is this faggotry?
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>>386717620
You need to learn how budgets work
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>>386718542
I said production budget. I own 3 businesses so I know a hell of a lot more about it than some console warrior shitposting on 4chan

While typically advertising is half of the entire budget, 90% of the other half probably went into art assets that are exclusive to the PS4 version. Have you actually looked at the 3DS version? It's pre-PS2. And the pixel art is nothing special
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>>386712181
>Dad walks in
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Why do people use the Japanese PS store when you can get the same games for a cheaper price from the Hong Kong or Singapore stores?
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>>386689946
DQ8 was the best RPG of the PS2 and this is gonna be the best of the PS4
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