Is this the most Punished character in FF?

Ardyn's the real victim here.

>>386690208
I wonder if Ardyn also had a waifu that was killed in front of him

>>386689943
Zack from FFVII, He died so the emo fag could live and steal his identity.

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>>386690325
>"You'll never guess whose name Izunia was"

>>386689943
Tellah because he's a good character stuck in a shit story and party.

>>386690208
Yeah, but he got what he wanted and actually succeeded

>>386689943
>born into royalty
>"hey, this is pretty nice actua-"
>mother is murdered in front of you
>you get crippled before you even turn 10
>okay, to a rough start, but there is this cutie healer that wants you dic-
>her kingdom is sacked, she is kidnapped, everyone dies, you don't see her for years
>eventually get thrown into an arranged marriage with her
>things are looking up!
>on the way to the wedding your father dies, you home is burned to the ground, you are made public enemy number one, and everyone that helps you is in danger
>kind of a bummer, but let's go meety fiance!
>entire city is destroyed, your fiance is murdered in front of you literally minutes after you see her again
>to top it all off your friends is blind now, while your other friend is being a massive douchebag
>at least prompto is still here! Should be a relaxing train ride,

>>386690397
> Cloud
> Emo

Someone needs to replay FFVII.

>>386691642
Didn't you play KH2?

>>386691564
>mother is murdered in front of you
That wasn't his mother. That was a maid. Noctis' mother, Aulea, died when he was a baby.

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At least Noctis kept his marbles.

>>386691564
This makes me realise the potential of the story

>>386691642
KH2/AC Cloud =/= FFVII Cloud

>>386692356
He got to pump and dump childhood girlfriend.

>>386692418
Said childhood girlfriend also constantly lied to him which caused his total mental breakdown, and was the reason he got fucked up so much as well.
Living a life together with a lying cunt who will probably cheat with Johnny behind his back is really not that much of a good fate.

>>386692621
Cloud was the one lying, the only thing Tifa did was not call Cloud out when he was telling the story thinking he was Zack when in reality he was a generic guard and was too embarrassed to show Tifa he failed to become an elite SOLDIER

>>386692895
>Cloud was the one lying
he genuinely believed everything he said

>>386690208
Ardyn was probably the worst villain in Final Fantasy because at every turn I want him to win. What a poor bastard.

>>386693130
And he wins .

>>386693130
Vayne is way better in that aspect.
The sheer camaraderie between him, Cid and Venat makes all 3 of them god-tier.

>>386691564
Also,
>10 year magic coma while the world is plunged into literal darkness
>ignis don't care
>die a virgin
>have to settle for a ghost blowjob
> WOO WOO WOO

>>386693392
I'm gonna go with Noct's VA says and just acts like he didn't die a virgin.

>>386693482
Who would he have fucked, Prompto? Don't say Iris, he clearly had no interest.

>>386693756
Cindy or Aranea

>>386693815
There's no way Prompto would have not found out and been furious about either of them.

>>386693756
Some random chick
It's a road trip, after all

>>386694110
>Some random chick
Noct does not have the charisma for that.

>>386693756
Wasn't gonna say her seeing as she's 15 and he's 20 and I'm sure the western wing of Square would have looked down on that. And like you said, he had no interest.
>>386693815
I'm think while he was in High School/before he left Insomnia.

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>>386692408
which was utterly WASTED for a fucking average game.
look at this fucking trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcUSXub_ypU
this could have been the best FF ever made.

Almost every other FF MC gets to win and get a good ending in the end.

Hell, Bartz gets a fucking HAREM. Noctis has to commit suicide just to make it so the world isn't a total shithole. He doesn't create a paradise, he just resets the world to Normal. Imagine having to have a shit life and kill yourself and all you get is a fucking sunrise.

>>386694535
He gets to bone his wife for all eternity in whatever afterlife he is in.

>>386689943
>put in a shitty game that was in development limbo forever
>never gets to fuck
>sits in a shack for ten years
>dies
>all his threads are shilled by a high degree turbo autist to the point where everyone hates his game
I'll say.

>>386694972
Yeah but you could argue every MC gets to do that.

>>386695156
You got me on that point.

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Not even fucking close.

Sazh gets the shit end of every fucking stick that's ever been thrown at him by fate for 3 games in a fucking row.

I really wish Taro did FF15.
Engine blade's weapon story in Automata adds more to Noctis and his father than FF15 itself.

>>386694475
Not him but agreed. The last minute still gives me goosebumps.

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>Find out the order he devoted his entire life to was a lie
>His best friends sacrifice themselves for said order
>Tries to avenge them but gets beaten near death
>Crawls out of Zanarkand, down Mount Gagazet and across the Calm Lands only to die right outside of his home
>Becomes basically a zombie
>Enters a fantasy land for 10 years to protect his best friends son, his son is an annoying idiot, but he takes him out of the dream land
>Has to Protect his best friends daughter and son as they go sacrifice themselves the same way their parents did
>Has to fight his best freind again who was reanimated as a monster
>Decides its finally time to die now that the debt has been paid
>Were never getting that FFX prequel :(

>>386695464
Instead you got ass and titties blitzbomb edition.

>>386694475
This makes me absolutely sad every time I see it, holy shit.
Nonetheless, we shouldn't be stuck on the concept of "what could have been".

Here's to hoping XVI won't disappoint.

>>386689943
>royalty, but with zero responsibilities
>still get tons of benefits such as servants, boduguards and money
>all hot bitches fell into him even if it doesn't makes sense
>everyone are ready to die for him
>napping 10 years, while world was destroyed and 95% human population died
>fulfill his task as Kink of Light putting least amount of effort, because main villain, oracle, friends, random who's helped him all along
>ascended into goodhood

Nah, fuck him.

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>>386694475
>the opening notes of the music
>the apocalyptic dialogue and imagery
>the ending triumph of VXIII finally being made and rebranded XV
This game could have been legendary. MGSV and FFXV taught me to not watch trailers at all.

>>386695743
>Nonetheless, we shouldn't be stuck on the concept of "what could have been".
Who are you and what have you done with /v/?

I just don't get it. They had so much time to do it right.

I was an ambivalent and was waiting for me to play before I made an opinion of the game. I was hoping it would be good. I saw some people say it was not good when it came out, but I just thought, well it can't be that bad.

And then I just finished it yesterday. It was that bad. Feels fucking bad man.

>>386693756
All in bullet time, baby.

Certainly the most incompetent

>>386695924
This. Not to mention he's the most aggressively boring post FF4 protag to date. At least Squall had some depth.