Should e-sports be a part of the Olympics?

No.

If this does happen, and Japan/Korea doesn't win everything, you know it's rigged or they didn't show up.

>>386688827
I think that is something the people who care about the Olympics should decide.

>>386688827
The fact that it's even being considered is retarded

No, they are at the top of their games in vidya, but doesn't Olympic refer to the ancient city of Olympia? And Olympic games would imply the games of Olympia are to be played, not esports

>>386688912
>>386689125
spotted the mad normies

>>386688827
>video games
>sport
choose one

If stupid things like curling, jumping high, throwing far and running fast are in then why not video games?

>>386689012
Japan isn't even good.

China and South Korea are much better.

>>386689289
Spotted the fat virgin neet.

>>386689573
Depends on the genre

>>386689463
playing video games competitively is not a sport.

>>386689605
Did you spot a mirror?

>>386689605
kys normie

>>386689709
>>386689715
Kill yourselves fatties.

Fuck the nomies we have our own events that will always have far more prestige amongst gamers than the Olympics ever could.

>we'll see physically unfit hambeasts waddling up the podium with medals around their necks
It'll be great, some humor wouldn't kill the Olympics.

>>386689289
you know what is making me mad ? it's that those (((people))) in charge of olympics consider using ESports but won't even fucking try a damn thing about guns competitions like IPSC

olympics can die, i certainly won't give a fuck

>>386689836
go back to facebook faggot
you don't belong here

>>386688827
As long as teams aren't by nationality.

>>386689994
Go back to ReDD*t, faggot. You are not wanted here.

>>386690059
why not? its not like it would change anything. the top dogs would continue being the top dogs (china, america, brazil, etc.)

>>386689573

>japan isnt good at fighting games

Well, my main point regardless is, if the asians show up and don't take home all the gold, you know it's rigged completely.

>>386689892
Post the webm of the fatass with barnacles on his legs who could barely step down from a stage.

>>386689994
>esports are so great guys it's not like most of multiplayer games are ruined by these becasue of shit ass marketing and F2P being implemented

>>>/r/esport

>>386690087
>still hasn't killed himself
fuck off normie

>>386688827
No.
It's not a physical sport.

RNG shouldn't either be a factor in a sport.

>>386688827
>Should e-sports be a part of the Olympics?

No.

>>386690243
if they put esport they should put Chess in too

>>386690214
wtf are you even babbling about nigger?

>>386689281
>hockey
>rugby
>biathalon
>snowboarding

Special olympics, sure

CS is the only one you could argue, it has been around for long enough.

>>386690307
take a look at R6:siege nigger, if you knew what i'm talking about MAYBE you would reallize epsorts is nothing but a fucking cancer

now how about you go back where you came from ?

>Post-cold war olympics mattering

>>386690221
I'm going to fuck my GF in a bit. Why would I want to do that? You on the other hand are totally worthless. Just slit your throat, it shouldn't be hard to end your life you failed abortion. Now get to it, kiddo.

>>386690423
>he thinks r6:siege would become an olympic game
ahhahahah
get real son

>>386690243
>RNG shouldn't either be a factor in a sport.
This. Even having a single item or skill with x% critical chance crosses the red line.

>>386690328
good point, I still don't think people will want to see vidya in the middle of a bunch of the usual stuff though, maybe we just need to give it some time

>>386688827
vidya shouldn't even be sports in the first place.

>>386688827
If the Olympics committee wants to do something with video games it should be a separate event.

Only if something like chess gets in first.
I mean art was an Olympic event with medals at one point, so I can't see the harm in giving esports a try. Besides the committee doens't care about tradition, they just care about viewership. It's why they got rid of wrasslin, one of the oldest sports practiced.

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>>386690470
>I'm going to fuck my GF in a bit
make sure you're a good boy and lick jamal's cum off of her chin before you do that

Video games aren't a sport.

>>386690489
If it happens it gonna be CS and AssFaggots.

Essentially what ESPN shows.

>nobody goes because theres no money in it

yeah like people are gonna line up simply to defend their nations prestige in League of Losers

>>386690114
What if out of the 10 best teams in the world for X game, 5 of them are Chinese. Would the Olympics only choose 1 of those 5 teams to represent China?

>>386690489
Nigger do you even have reading comprehension? That guy was condemning esports using R6: Siege as an example for how fucking hard trying to be competitive killed the fun in that game.

>>386690178
>esports teams having a match with doritos and mountain dew cans on their desks
>they start perspiring because pressing buttons is about as physical as they've ever gotten in their entire lives
>they start taking off their shirts, revealing their lardy tardy torsos for the world to see
It's gonna be hilarious and disgusting at the same time. We should be supporting this.

>>386690641
Not everyone is a cuck like your fathers, Nadish. Anyways, shouldn't you be killing yourself already? You're adopted so your fathers can just get a new kid. Maybe this one won't be worthless.

>>386688827
Who cares, the Olympics has been a joke for decades
Bunch of faggots juiced up to the gills so they can break the next record and rake in more sweet sweet shekels for Fritz and Mordecai

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It's cute how /v/ absolutely despises esports because they remind all of you how mediocre you are, even at your primary hobby. Watching genetically superior gamers compete must cause some serious feelings of inadequacy for you fat retards.

>>386688827
>sports
I wish they just kept to competitive gaming

The largest factor of being good at team based games is having an entire team on chat. If your whole team has the most basic knowledge of how the game works and is communicating with each other you're already halfway to becoming a "professional" team. Most of the rest is just marketing yourselves.

>>386690686
no shit? when did I say otherwise?
regardless, these games are already balanced around the competitive scene anyway so it's not like it would matter much
the only thing thats kinda shitty is the rng yeah but real sports have luck on them too so idk

>>386690132
>japan isnt good at fighting games
That's literally the only thing though and it may also have something to do with the rest of the world not giving a shit about them.

>>386690489
>he still can't read
i'm talking about how siege was first advertised as a tactical shooter during E3, then at release it became a MOBA/FPS and now it is just a >buy more good goyim point to buy shit ass skin to act cool with your friends

this is how esport is ruining everything, now placing F2P stuff in your full priced game is alright because "esports" and "looking cool"

>>386688827
Yes because the outrage would be amazing. Just look at when shit shows up on ESPN 2

>>386690772
>implying i didn't know what he was trying to say
stop being retarded and stop having tunnel vision
there are other games out there who are succesfully competitive

>>386690823
>look how good this korean's aimbot is!
What is the point? And actually I could reach that level without a cheat if I spent twelve hours a day on it like the "pros."

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>>386690823

Yeah, you seem a lot more buttblasted than some guy who has better shit to do than watch other people play video games.

>>386690823

This.

>>386689463
anybody can sit down and at least appreciate jumping high and running fast.

also theres no standard for video games. what game do they pick? all of them?

>>386690689

>he honestly thinks there wont be any money involved with this

You are very dumb. The first time esports olympics thing is a gold mind for sponsorship advertisement. People will go just for that "i went to the first ever esports event in the olympics" and then sponsors will sell that shit to the retarded as hell 12 year olds who idolize these shutin neckbeard walking pizza faced autists, and the autists and sponsors will make a shitload of money.

>>386690823
overwatch has rotted your brain. you are unfit for society.

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>>386690810
>he says that, while his gf is fucking her bull in the room next door
whatever makes you sleep better at night sweetie

>>386690823
>THIS IS PEAK PERFORMANCE
>posts overwatch

laffin

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>>386690823
>genetically superior
>gamers

>>386690823
>/v/ is one person
go back

e-""""""sports"""""" must be eradicated.

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>>386689289
fourchins used to have top notch bants. you fucking millennials need to get your shit together, this is weak shit.

>>386690950
this, i don't even like multiplayer games very much, why would I want to watch someone else play a video game. Also "e-sports" will never be real sports because they will never have any history. 10 years from now people won't be playing Overwatch.

>>386690901
who cares about your shitty game faggot. no one gives a shit about r6. it wouldnt be competitive EVER anyway so

>>386690921
>there are other games out there who are succesfully competitive

UT, CS, Quake and starcraft ? wew i'm sure this is going to be fun because the rest of those "competitive" games are really fucking lame

>>386690950
>than some guy who has better shit to do than watch other people play video games.
That's fair, but also completely goes out the window considering these people also sit around and complain about people watching video games.

Someone who had better things to do probably wouldn't give a shit either way.

>>386690983
Tetris

>>386688827
This is just embarrassing, we really are living in awful times

I rather see them bring back the fine arts

>>386691151
any contemporary competitive games pretty much ie csgo, lol, dota etc.
you dont have to like these to admit they're what would be feature if we had the olympic games in 2018

by then new games will have been released so idk my dude

>>386691162

I agree with this as well. That post specifically just reeked of some tryhard feeling insecure and lashing out, so I made fun of him ( gently )

>>386688827
>E-Sports is considered
>Motorsports isn't

Why though.

>300 BC: dudes throwing javelins and shit
>2020 AD: nerds in a dark room playing counterstrike

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>>386691048
I look forward to hearing the news of some loser killing himself. Hope it's you, anon. This is the last (You) you'll get from me, I'm going to fuck my GF now.

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>>386691084

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_chronometry#Mental_chronometry_and_cognitive_ability

>Researchers have reported medium-sized correlations between reaction time and measures of intelligence: There is thus a tendency for individuals with higher IQ to be faster on reaction time tests

Chess and Poker are olympic sports, so I dont see the issue.

>>386688827
I support esports being televised and considered a sport in the same way poker is, but this is just retarded. The Olympics have been, and always will be for the fittest of the fittest and the best of the best. If we include reports we have to include any number of other things, plus how would we decide which games to host.

This is a horrible idea.

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>>386690842
Broski, i elaborating on your mentioning that it definitely wasn't going to be by mentioning what it would be.

>>386691129
Fuck off retard, isn't there another industry you're suppose to ruin?

>>386688827
It may be possible. Chess isn't considered since imit only appeals to those with intelligence and there'should no real revenue to be made from it.

Video games on the other hand are extremely popular and profitable so it's quite possible.

this should have been in Olympics, but they don't want to becasue people would be interrested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prtL-EXsotU

stop watching olympics, it became fucking shit since a long time ago

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How about....
We make an olympic for video games only.

>>386690621
this is a good idea. Just straight up make a video game olympics. Have all the different events: ddr, cs, dota, street fighter, fifa, whatever else people fucking play. Everybody playing for their nations. Could be legit fun to watch and this is coming from somebody who doesn't give a shit about esports

>>386688827
Absolutely no, its an insult to the olympics bring that shit, on the other hand we can create another type of tournament for this.

>>386691360

This is fair enough. However, are we not going to consider what playing a single video game for 12 hours a day does to your brain?

>Should I read a book?
>Nah! Overwatch!
>yeah get rekt fgt :D

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>>386690823
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>>386691103

>women on attractive women
>'She isn't that pretty!' 'Her breasts are probably fake.' 'It's what's inside that counts.'

>/v/ on superior gamers
>'He isn't that good!' 'He probably uses an aimbot.' 'Fun is what counts.'

>>386691419
dont be a faggot mate

>>386691362
but chess and poker arent in the olympics.

besides, this is a nonstory. theres always some group pushing x to be in the olympics. off the top of my head i can think of poledancing, inline skating, chessboxing, skateboarding

>>386688827
No just fuck no. We already have enough fags trying to justify their shitty existence to people who don't play/don't understand/simply hate videogames with "It's technically a sport now, just check E-sports" and make themselves and others look bad [spoilerl] saying this out of personal experience not because I have done it but because I've been labeled as "just another fucking gamer trying to justify himself" and it fucking pisses me off [/spoiler]

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>>386691579
THIS
/v/ is just full of buttblasted pokemon kiddies who can't fathom the fact competitive videogaming is a thing (since the fucking 80s, by the way)
we need to purge these cucks from gaming

>>386688827
Do they in any way include any form of RNG? Then no. If dice games aren't allowed, neither should other RNG based games.

>>386691579

I actually didn't say anything about esports players. I just called that one guy a faggot for having so much MLG cock in his mouth.

>>386688827
Imagine when they play EA sports FIFA then show actual football in the summer olympics. It's fucking retarded why is this even a thing? Make Esports its own thing instead of mixing it with olympics.

>>386691641
you sound like a huge faggot

I don't think esports in the olympics could work solely for the fact that a corporation would own whatever game is being played. While there is a lot of money and corporations that fund/sponsor/advertise during the olympics, I'm pretty sure there are no companies that actually own the idea/concept of wrestling/diving/skiing/etc.

>>386691685
Is a gust of wind on a football pitch "rng"?

>>386691579
>womens does act of jealousy toward other womens that are more beautiful than them

>/v/ is being suspicious because it is knowed that there's fuck ton of people that cheat in video games

hmmm yeah both of those things are the same, sure, and next you gonna say the earth is flat ?

>>386691579
overwatch has a skill ceiling thats below sea level so posting it as an example of anything is an actual joke.

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>>386691571
You don't have to play for twelve hours per day. Pros are scrimming between 2-6 hours per day on average.

I find you example you used particularly funny because I read several books a week and write my own. Video games don't ``rot your brain'', that's some Jack Thompson tier shit.

>>386691828
>people dope in sports
>we should never play sports ever again
no fuck off

>>386691828
>implying people don't cheat in olympic sports as well
>implying there aren't people in charge of taking care of those
stop being a retard

>>386691825
'act of god'

>>386691825
No because olympic football is played in a stadium where wind isn't a factor.

>>386691948
Ok how about sailing disciplines?

>>386691915
but that's the thing to do ? if you stop watching sport, people will stop doing sports for fame and instead will return to competition to just proove they are better than the competitors

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>>386691948
Why talk about things you have no idea about?

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>>386691583
But Anon, then how would i be able to stay on /v/.

>>386691880

Dude, if you sit around playing Overwatch all damn day every day, you're probably a fucking idiot. Also, there is a reason most pro gamers look like hell: It's because their lifestyle is not good for them.

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>>386691846
>overwatch has a skill ceiling thats below sea level

Absolutely not true, the shooting/aim element of Overwatch is significantly harder than Quake, for instance, which is highly momentum-based in its movement and doesn't have headshots.

>>386692059
maybe we don't accept a few faggots ruining it for everyone else?

besides it's not like you're not gonna have rules and officials and shit just like real sports

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>>386692059
>being this retarded

>>386692034
Being able to read the weather conditions and acting accordingly is a skill in sailing.

>>386692060
I could ask you the same.

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>>386692134

The fact you're doing this for free is amusing.

>>386692134
how the fuck is the second shot a headshot
he shoots his FEET

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>>386692134
>Absolutely not true, the shooting/aim element of Overwatch is significantly harder than Quake

>>386692298

Shh, disregard. Overwatch is the best, and so are pro gamers.

Buy my cashews of chaos to become leet skillz gaymur.

>>386692283
>>386692328
t. never played quake in my life

>>386691129
Gen Z here,
Fuck off grandpa

>>386692389

Been playing it since 96. Probably longer than you've been on this Earth, funnily enough.

>>386692239
And dealing with rng isn't?

>>386692194
>i've never watched video game competition before esport was a thing

that amount of fame and money competitors get during esport is what force them to find new way to cheat, just so they keep their place

i remember an artical quite some time ago about esport when the guys in charge of detecting cheaters find out that one of the best competitor actually had cheat enabled on his hardware so it can't be detected teh conventional way

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>>386690178
SOMEONE POST THIS
>SOMEONE POST THIS
SOMEONE POST THIS
>SOMEONE POST THIS
SOMEONE POST THIS
>SOMEONE POST THIS
SOMEONE POST THIS

>>386692389
Yes, we can tell.

>>386692442
Then you should know he's right. Aiming in quake is easy as piss man. Huge hitboxes, no headshots, predictable trajectories, etc.

>>386692453
Can you read and predict RNG?

>>386692460
obviously in the olympics the standards about cheating would be much higher

>>386692560

Does any of that make " running in quicksand simulator " harder to aim in? Because it isn't.

>>386692604
Can you read and predict gusts of wind?

No. You just know they happen so you plan around them. Same deal dude.

>>386692604
not him but you can play around rng if that's what you mean
stop being petty, there are plenty of reasons why videogames in olympics would be kinda shitty, that's not one of them

>>386692667
>Can you read and predict gusts of wind?
yes actually

>>386692637
>hitting large targets moving in predictable trajectories is harder than hitting small ones jittering around
Come on. I don't even like Overwatch, but you're being retarded.

>>386692453
Having an option to deal with a situation before it happens is not the same as being dealt a bad hand when doing the exact same action as another contestant.
If both players land a hit equally, but one deals less damage because of the RNG simply giving him a smaller number, than it has nothing to do with skill and/or technique, and then it simply isn't a sport.

>>386692747
Bullshit.

>>386688827
No.
Most gamers dislike sports or are pretty indiferent towards them.
Most sports fans either only like sports videagames or don't care about them at all, and neither would consider playing them a sport on part with the Olympics.

These audiences don't mix well, so why force e-sports unto the Olympics?, nothing good could come of it.

>>386692609
>implying they will
olympics let esports in because it make new people watch the olympics as a whole, that's the only reason and they will only enforce new rule if the press talk about it, this how it is for the tour de france
>cyclist manage to cheat by placing small electric motors inside their bikes
>no one give a shit
>suddenly someone leak that to the press
>SUDDENLY the TDF organiser do their best to fight this new way of cheating

>>386691880
>Pros play 2-6 hours per day
>Pros also have thousands of hours in the game

Im not saying they aren't good at what they do but don't sell them short, they put in more play time than your average consumer.

>>386692821
Even if both players are subject to the same rng? The competitors are on even ground. Don't see an issue.

>>386692850
>he doesn't know what a Kestrel 4500 is
protip : snipers use it to make sure their bullets land where they aim

>>386692850
You can tell by surrounding water reaction, buoy data/flags, and how other boats are affected around you.

>>386692689
>>386692667
And you could also develop games that don't rely on RNG. We build facilities to certain specifications to minimise the occurrence of 'acts of God', why the hell would anyone want an RNG-infested game to be used on a competitive scene like the Olympics when you can build a game that doesn't rely on them at all?

>>386692932
What if one team gets first pick to pick a better class or plays on the side with higher win rate?

>>386693015
Same deal as in football. You flip a coin. Omfg rng.

>>386692770
I'll take "Timing" for 1000, please.

Half the weapons in overwatch are hitscan, the other half fires bullets faster than anything from quake except phara.

Youre delusional if you think overwatch is harder.

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>>386692298
>>386692359
The second shot was faster than your mortal brain can register. It was a headshot.

>>386692328
Yes, it is. Quake is not even an aim intensive game. Let's compare the hitscan aim stats of notable Quake players who play Overwatch professionally.

https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/rapha? < #1 Quake duelist for the past six or seven years, played OW professionally till a month ago
>McCree accuracy: 6.4% headshots

https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/Coollerz < #2 or #3 Quake duelist, OW pro
>McCree acccuracy: 4.2% headshots

https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/Cypher < #3 or #2 Quake duelist, OW pro
>McCree accuracy: 8.0% headshots

Now let's compare to the accuracy of some non-Quake players.

https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/papillon-1323 < CSGO professional player 'Shox', casual OW player
>McCree accuracy: 11% headshots

https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/ENUMBRE-1733 < me, FPS mutt who has played everything
>McCree accuracy: 16.4% headshots

Quake is not an aim game, it's a thinking game. You will aim at an enemy once every thirty seconds on average, compared to constantly in other games. And you needn't worry about headshots or unexpected angles in Quake, you can predict your opponent's movement.

>>386693013
Isn't a game developed by a company a problem in itself? While there are a lot of businesses that sponsor and make gear there are none that own the sport.

>>386693013
So why is football still played outdoors? Why do you think anyone cares about this hypothetical pure competition you're dreaming about?

>>386693069
>wins should be based on coin flip
nice game. football fiends are even, mobashit maps are not

>>386692932
No because then it's still not based on the merit of the player, and instead on what random bullshit the computer chooses to spit out.
Two people pushing the same button and one being decided a winner because of outside forces isn't a sport, and shouldn't be, no matter how much you dress it up.

>>386692914
2-6 hours per day, that's it?

>>386693013
well there's no way in hell that would ever happen because that would automatically disqualify games like csgo, lol, dota, hearthstone and others
i kinda agree with you though, i wish people would start paying more attention to games like starcraft and fighting games that have zero rng (other than maybe 50/50 shenanigans in fighting games but thats not real rng)

>>386693157
The most used weapons in Quake are LG, RG, RL.

Two hitscans, one standard rocket launcher. You're not making a point. It's a fact that targets in OW are smaller.

Basketball is allowed, I don't see why video games shouldn't be allowed.

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Ok, you want sports to be part of the olympics do you big boy?

Name a SINGLE GAME deserving of being played in the Olympics.

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>>386692134
fuck off enumbre

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>>386693162
Holy shit, Quake players EXPOSED for the casual no-aim shitters they are

>>386693246
no, he's bullshitting lol
most pros in all games even a super casual game with such high rng variance such as hearthstone players play for at the very least 8 hours a day or so

>>386693181
Yes. This is the only real argument against esports at olympics. Same deal with motorsports.

>>386693304
Quake.

>>386693304
none, Before fighting game fags get here

No one wants to see you play your shitty anime games that are

>>386693304
starcraft: bw
starcraft 2

>>386693207
>get free kick outside the box
>gust of wind takes ball, miss goal
>opponent team gets free kick outside the box
>no gust of wind
>fucking bs game

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>>386693304
Starcraft 2 unquestionably

CSGO would be good

Quake CPMA duels, maybe

>>386693304
Pong

>>386693162
have you considered that you're the bad one focusing too much on getting HSs instead of output

>>386688827
Yes but only Quake is worthy.

>>386693198
in mobashit we flip a coin, and winner picks side or first hero pick.

there is, to this day, still no consensus on which is better.

>>386693347
You have no idea what you're talking about, the longest an FPS scrim goes is four hours unless there is a huge tournament coming up.

What's the point of flicking for aiming?

>>386693447
>Gust of wind
We're talking about the olympics. Stop being an idiot.

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>>386693304

Turok: Rage Wars

It was built EXCLUSIVELY for multiplayer.

>>386693543
[citation needed]

>>386693272
Size matters when reaper hits Z?

Size doesnt matter, so what was your point?

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>>386693512
It doesn't appear to be the case, because I'm ranked above all of those players by a lot.

>>386693632
OH FUCK I MEAN Q

Rising Storm 2 has me used to spotting gooks

e-sports are not engaging at all to watch though. you think people are going to travel to another country to watch a fat nerd sit in a box and click a few buttons?

>>386691671
Nice b8 m8 I r8 it 8/8

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>>386693546
It's beautiful to look at, and it convinces retards that you're cheating.

>>386693732
spotted the mad pokemon cu.ck

>>386693561
>the wind does not blow at the olympics

>>386688827
May as well. The olympics have already been reduced to bribes, sponsers, drugs, and bad sportsmanship anyway.
Substitute red bull for drugs and e-sports is perfect for that.

>>386689012
You know Olympic althletes have to be amateur right? Like there's all those controversies about companies buying them dinner.
That's why some countries dominate the pro scene but barely show up to the Olympics because all their good players are pros.

Also no e-sports shouldn't be in the Olympics, same a chess.
Not because they are less skillful but the Olympics are supposed to be displays of athletic skill not mental skill.

>>386693632
...that aiming at small shit is harder than aiming at large shit? Holy shit you people are thick as fuck. I never mentioned the lame ass ultimates.

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>>386688827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDgq-K2oYLo

>>386693760

I like how as time went on you stopped trying to convinced them you're innocent and started taking the piss.

>>386689979
You're retarded. They have firearm competitions.

>>386693272
you have to be moving for the LG to be accurate

I love eSports but I think fuck no, esports should NOT be a part of the Olympics

>>386693819
Not when the entire field is surrounded by over a hundred meter walls on all sides.
The point isn't even if wind is possible, it's that in sports you try to eliminate as much random interference as possible, instead of just accepting it, or even actively embracing it, like pretty much every competitive game scene.

>>386693956
its cause he is hacking

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>>386693162
DELETE THIS NOW
MY HERO RAPHA IS A GAMING GOD

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>>386688827

No, the olympics are about physical fitness, not being the best at something.

>>386693906
Yeah but the lame ass ultimates negates your whole "size matters" point. If I can just hit Q and kill and win the game what the fuck did size do?

Does this make it harder than Quake? to be able to hit Q and wipe a team (even if theyre small)?

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>>386694118
Sorry friendo, you're going to need another excuse to explain why I'm so much better than you at video games.

>>386694164
>No, the olympics are about physical fitness, not being the best at something.

Aaand that's where you're wrong. Which is why there are medals, and competitions where people directly compete, such as fencing and boxing. Lots of fatass out of shape boxers medal in the olympics.

>>386694228
its cause you're hacking

that was easy

>>386694228
maybe his excuse is that he isn't a virgin neckbeard like you? who knows mate

>>386694228
Because you have the muscle memory in your wrist and fingers?

>>386694091
>eliminate as much random interference as possible
no this isn't a thing

Why do they plan a route for the Olympic marathon instead of having them do a million laps at the stadium then?

How are sailing disciplines even a thing?

Equestrian? I guess horse behaviour isn't random per se, but it might as well be.

>>386694228
>enumbre's bizarre perfectly white alien hand
every time

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>patch the game a week before it gets used in the olmypics
>change the meta entirely and introduce completely game breaking mechanics
>suddenly the teams that trained for 4 years are getting stomped by newbies who have no idea what they are doing
>mfw

>>386694173
I'm talking specifically about aiming. YOu're moving goalposts in your crusade against OW. I don't like it either faggot, find someone else to bitchfight with.

>>386694228
>razer

no mattter how hard you try you will never be accepted by the patricians.

You can practice. Train. Break yourself; you will never shed your plebeian tastes.

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I'd say that's retarded but honestly by year 2024 I can see it happening

It's not like eSports aren't getting a lot of numbers already, I figure several of the big ones will be bigger than 60%+ of all sports by then so I wouldn't be surprised that the Olympic Jews pick eSports too.

>>386694321

There aren't any out of shape boxers at the olympics.

>>386688827
I'd say no but ping pong is in the Olympics so why not gaming. I'd prefer if it was different than how current esports are though. like a team has to be proficient in multiple games and not just one.

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>>386694384

Partly, but there's also the issue of talent, which is what really gets /v/ upset.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a178485.pdf "Visual Acuity and Reaction Time in Navy Fighter Pilots"
>Simple reaction times ranged from 143 to 461 msec, with a mean of 223 msec (SD = 0.055).

>>386694228
its always sad when you see a good player playing a bad game

>>386694228
nice meme game

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>>386694487
That's a G502 and not a Razer mouse. I use a G Pro now though.

Friendly Mouse Reminders:

Zowie & Razer & Steelseries
- Chinese Huano switches rated generously by the manufacturer at 10 million actuations, with a very heavy actuation force
- PMW3310 (zowie) and PMW3360 sensor (razer, steelseries). 2 and 1 generation old sensors, respectively. Inferior sensors. But cheap! Have bad input delay, bad high speed tracking performance, and smoothing. See chart.

Logitech
- Japanese Omron switches tested to be good for 50 million actuations with an actuation force over 2x lighter than Huanos
- PMW3366 sensor developed in concert with Logitech and Pixart engineers to be ideal for 3D video games. Has zero smoothing, has no 'native DPI'. Has best-in-class high speed performance and input delay (8ms better than Deathadder Elite). See chart.

Logitech mouse bodies:
g502 is 117 grams, medium size, right handed, 7 buttons, unlockable free-scrolling scrollwheel
g403 is 87 grams, large, right handed. 2 buttons + DPI switch.
g pro is 83 grams, small, ambidextrous. 2 buttons + DPI switch. Lightest weight mouse.
Logitech also has a new line of wireless-recharging wireless mice, they will be heavier than wired counterparts and have 5.5ms higher input delay though.

>>386694481
No im going to start a bitch fight with you faggot

Youre arguing a moot point, its harder to aim in the game that has integrated aimbots? Good argument.

If youre not talking about OW what the fuck are you referring to? just aiming is hard against small targets? Also the moon is round, wanna argue about that? lol i love this anon

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What I don't get about the Olympics is how it's supposed to be fair for the smaller countries, it's going to be Murica or China that takes it home. More people = more wins, others literally stand no chance.

Should the final score be weighed by percentage?

>>386694669
my man, i just have a shitt g100s

welcome to the league of patricians

>>386693458
>Shoots Second shot before the player was even moving that way.

Jesus, this is "pro" level OW? Lucky shit isn't skill. Same with CS.

>>386694726
It all started when some faggots trying to look cool were claiming that Quake 3 has harder aiming than OW. Which it doesn't.

>>386694228
the fact you think a handcam video proves you aren't using shallow fov aim assist makes me think you're using shallow fov aim assist, friend :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWIzOYBi88

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>>386694507
Ummm sweetie, here is your boxing Heavyweight Champion of the World for 1994. Aged 45, which is nineteen years older than the guy he took the title from.

>>386694385
Having people run in circles for a shit ton of time is not viable for a few reason, one of them with how the track is laid out, the other about how many people are in lang distance running races at once, compared to sprints. You can have many groups of a few runners in sprints because it's a short race, so you just race the groups one after another, which you can't do with long distance running because it would take forever.

Sailing and equestrian sports is specifically about your skill in controlling the boat/horse. You can plan out ahead of time, and if you loose control of either it's almost always your own fault.

You can't control what number a computer spits out, no matter how hard you try.

>>386688827
Darts isn't even in the Olympics, why would they even consider E-"sports"?

>>386689281


>curling

If it's any game other than BW and MAYBE Dota then they're just doing it for publicity.

>>386694846
>game that has an aiming crutch is hard
>game that doesn't have an aiming crutch is easy

Keep going.

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>>386694858
This is true, I also have time traveling capabilities built into my aimbot so I can know how people will move in order to hit projectiles like this

>>386694791
>but only a few people can represent a country for each attempt :^)
t. burgers from /sp/

>>386694913
Same deal in dota dude. You plan around RNG ahead of time, and if you lose control of the game it's not almost always your fault, it's _always_ your fault.

>>386694891

Right, that has nothing to do with the olympics.

>>386694791
for gold medals per capita the US and china arent even in the top 50

>>386695003
Still not even talking about any of the ultimates at all.

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Absolutely not

>>386695078
And at the same time, a game that doesn't rely on RNG can be picked instead thus eliminating luck entirely.

>>386695210
I guess we should get rid of sailing, equestrian and road bike races then.

>>386695163
>tfw no QT filipina GF

>>386695078
Does Dota in any way generate a random number when you hit a character with an ability, or heal a friendly character?
If the same ability hit the same character in the same way, would you always get the same number on all abilities?
If no, then it's out of your hands.

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>>386694828
>Jesus, this is "pro" level OW?
You could say that, but these webms are all from pub games

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>nobody watches the olympics anymore because its all doped up, steroid ridden people just like every other sport
>hey guys lets appeal to the kids in an "extreme way" with video games and try to win them over as a demographic like we already tried and failed with snowboarding and bmx

>>386694914
Darts doesn't bring in money, esports might.

>>386695143

>If you ignore the other parts of the video game and only look at this one aspect of it, that proves it's harder than this other game.

Sure...???

???

>>386690823
>It's cute how /v/ absolutely despises esports because they remind all of you how mediocre you are, even at your primary hobby. Watching genetically superior gamers compete must cause some serious feelings of inadequacy for you fat retards.

GOOD bait
((because it's true))

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>>386688827
>Modern Olympics
>Video games in the olympics
Have fun with that dead land you can't repurpose or make money off of after they're over.

>>386688827
Can I get off this timeline? Please?

>>386695360
The original comment said that Overwatch has a low skill ceiling, nothing about the game's overall 'difficulty'.

Overwatch has a very high skill ceiling, if you could hit all headshots you would effortlessly win every game.

>>386695281
Why? If there were ways to eliminate the random interferences in those sports, they would be done. What's being argued here is that it's entirely possible to design a game that doesn't rely on RNG, so why wouldn't they?

>>386695308
For most abilities, no, it doesn't.

It does, however, roll for each and every attack (small variances like 50-60) and critical hits (although pseudorandom distribution.)

>>386695014
Also you're bragging while posting clips of Overwatch which is even more casual garbage than TF2.
So I really don't know what you're trying to prove other than you're wasting your life with slightly faster hand reflexes than most of us.

>>386695014
im not sure why you think rocket mechanics prevent aim prediction? there have been cheats forever in quake that do just fine with that.

>>386695308
It's not true RNG, it's psuedo-random distribution. Meaning that if you don't roll a crit (for example) you're more likely to on the next attack. The chance of a game being lost on a luck roll is near zero.

>>386695497
>they would be done
So why is football still played out doors? Why do you think eliminating randomness is an objective in sports? It's part of sports, just like it's part of some video games.

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>>386695524
>slightly faster hand reflexes

Mine's ~150ms as seen in >>386694559, test yours
http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime

And remember: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_chronometry#Mental_chronometry_and_cognitive_ability

>Researchers have reported medium-sized correlations between reaction time and measures of intelligence: There is thus a tendency for individuals with higher IQ to be faster on reaction time tests

>>386688827
Only if its QWOP.

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>>386694559
>"ive got the talent of jet fighter pilots"
>"oh wow, you fly jet fighters?
>"oh, no, i play a videogame in a dark room alone"

>>386688827
Sure, why not?

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>>386688827
You spelled Special Olympics wrong OP. Finally the autistic children can compete!

>>386695701
>tfw too intelligent to play quake
You're fucking around, right? This is pretty funny.

>>386695818
imagine if the rules of tennis changed every few weeks?

>>386695392
>living in a poor nation that has to build for the Olympics
Dumb Brazilian anime poster

>>386690781
>>386689892
I think what most of you idiots don't realize is that there's far more skeletal video game nerds than there are fat nerds.

>>386695113
no crap since they would need more medals than all the sports combined to place 1st

>>386695896
have you SEEN a game convention?

>>386695851
They don't?

Lets be real here. Only fighting games are worthy of being at the Olympics.

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>>386695848
I've played plenty of quake, the old ones and the new one are dead, and the new one is bad and not running on CarmackCode™.

>>386695817
This is the video game board, have you considered trying another community if you don't like video games?

>>386695896
Everyone knows people who no life on games hard don't eat.
The fat trope is just easier to bash.

>>386695965
Have you SEEN an esports tournament?

>>386695485
I'm not the original commenter. Both games have high skill ceilings just because they're FPS's.

Now your argument is headshots, correct?

I'd say its harder to shoot someone mid rocketjump than it is to line up a headshot. You don't have to worry about up and down besides predictable jumpinging patterns and the head bob is barely an issue. we've also been over the Autoaim ultimates.

>>386695983
uh, yeah. they dont.

>>386695965
Yes I have.

>>386695879
Wait, Brazil got fucked already? I was citing Greece and China for their games in the 2000's.
>Dumb Brazilian anime poster
Not sure what that is but okay

>>386696045
wew that salt

>>386696096
Challenges?

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>>386695965
>tfw not as rich or attractive as a dota pro

>>386693813
>Pokemon isn't taken competitively
Swing and a miss shitposting man.

>>386690686
What is assfaggots

>>386695607
Because it's more cost-effective to build an open air stadium for a field that size. And they take steps to minimise your 'gusts of wind' to a point where you don't even feel a breeze when you're in a stadium.

>>386696368
lurk more

>>386696045
You're not convincing anyone of jack shit dude.
You just sound like a self righteous neckbeard.

>>386695701
Also, reaction time is something you can build up with practice, are you saying that the more you practice clicking a screen, the more intelligent you get?

>>386690132
But fighting games aren't fun, anon

>>386696134
Yeah, Brazil got fucked quite hard already.
They look like ruins in the recent photos of the grounds.

>>386696368
a forced meme by a single anon that eats, sleeps, and breathes neo /v/.

>>386695896
>literal lanky skeletons strutting up a podium
>medal doesn't even wrap around on their shoulder and instead falls all the way to the floor
Anon, that's even funnier.

>>386696391
I think you're conflating limiting randomness with promoting fairness. They're not exactly the same thing. Football is still played outdoors because the conditions will be the same for both teams, that's why we have seperate halves and why we switch sides between them.

>>386696393
>>386696492
OK but what game is he so buttblasted about

>>386688827
Should it be? Nope
Will it be? I wouldn't rule it out if the Olympic committee think they can make money from it then they will include it, complete bullshit when you think that wrestling one of the original events from the ancient Olympics got dropped but hey that's the world we live in

>>386696620
How would the conditions suddenly become different for both teams if the sport was played indoors? How would it be impossible for them to switch halves after half-time if it was played indoors?

>>386693902
But isn't there NBA players playing in the Olympics?

>>386689573
>China and South Korea are much better.
At cheating, sure.

>>386696914
yeah and soccer players, cyclists, pro boxers probably a lot of others the whole amateur thing is a joke at this stage

>>386696813
My point is that if we wanted to eliminate the weather factor entirely, we could easily do so.

We don't. We just make sure both teams need to deal with it the same. The weather still may randomly play a part.

>>386697213
Like I said, it's a compromise since the do eliminate most of the random interferences while at the same time don't bankrupt themselves with an entirely enclosed structure that needs to be air-conditioned entirely while also accommodating the same number of audience members. Creating an RNG-less video game for a hypothetical esports inclusion in the Olympics would cost nothing more than creating the same game with RNG. RNG is and has always been a design decision, not a natural part of video game design like wind and rain is to real life.

>>386697797
Now it is up to you to explain why RNG is a problem for competitive esports, since I have shown that it isn't for traditional sports.

>>386693543
That's fucking bullshit. I have a friend on a semi pro team CS team. They have required play hours. Also you should watch a pro gaming documentary in Korea or something to get a solid idea.

>>386688827
if fucking ice skating or bob sledding or fucking jumping on a pole to do a reverse limbo is in the olympics than yea. What is even the audience for those things.

>>386697920
People already bitch about RNG when there's nothing more than bragging rights at stake. When there's money involved? When there's fucking national pride involved? Televised for the whole world to see? People watch CSGO and DOTA tournaments because they want to see their pro players playing those specific games being played. But when the umbrella event is merely 'esports', that could mean any number of games and genres. People will bitch about RNG mechanics when they figure out it can be eliminated entirely.

Now tell me, why would anyone pick a game that has RNG over one that doesn't?

>>386693304
literally only dota 2

>>386698468
>When there's money involved?
But there already is money involved? The International is worth more (In prize money, probably not in sponsorships) than major events like Wimbledon. The guy who balances the game is in regular contact with pros and if anyone that mattered thought RNG was a problem it would be gone.

>>386698778
Brood War as well, though it would be a free gold medal for SK

>>386698468
>People will bitch about RNG mechanics when they figure out it can be eliminated entirely.
People bitch about random occurances such as wether or not a ref catches a foul or not all the time. They still play football.

>>386698782
Maybe read the rest of the post? The International is for a specific game that already has RNG mechanics in it. When the event is merely 'esports' instead of a specific game, why would they pick a game with RNG mechanics over one that doesn't have it?

>>386698909
And we have instant replays to minimise those occurrences whenever a dispute comes up. We build stadiums to specifications to avoid wind from being an issue. Why would a game with RNG be chosen to be played at an esports Olympics event over a game that doesn't have it?

>>386699503
I guess you don't know the rules of football. The ref must see the offense otherwise there's no foul. It doesn't matter if literally everyone else in the stadium sees it.

>>386688827
No. The closer video games come to being mainstream, the worse they get.

This is a hard fact.

>>386699503
>When the event is merely 'esports' instead of a specific game, why would they pick a game with RNG mechanics over one that doesn't have it?
Maybe read the rest of the post? People who play Dota professionally don't think RNG matters, otherwise they would have been begging Icefrog to get rid of it for years.

>>386699570
Except there are also assistant refs for that very reason. The keyword here is to 'minimise' random interference since completely eliminating it is impossible for some sports. As for RNG, it's entirely possible.

>>386700050
People bitch about RNG in DOTA and CSGO all the time but the mechanic is already ingrained in those games, removing them would mean they wouldn't be DOTA or CSGO anymore. For an esports event in the Olympics, why would a game with RNG mechanics be favored over one that doesn't have it?

>>386700495
If the goal is to minimise random interference (aka human element of refs) why doesn't FIFA allow video evidence during the match?

It's often used for disciplinary actions after the game, but never during.

>>386700732
Because the clock doesn't stop anon. Settling a dispute by reviewing video evidence during a match would mean a long ass fucking time wasted on something that might be a fluke.

>>386700882
But the rules could simply be amended to allow the ref to stop the clock. Your central line of argument is that there exists in sports a need to eliminate randomness, and I'l telling you it's not real, otherwise VAR would be a thing.

yeah sure whatever
they can put it in the slot after curling on the TV broadcast

>>386700495
>People bitch about RNG in DOTA and CSGO all the time
Who? Shitters with 2k matchmaking rank on /v/ or professional players? Which group of people matters?

>but the mechanic is already ingrained in those games, removing them would mean they wouldn't be DOTA [...] anymore
Not really. The slight variance on auto damage is only there to pay lip service to WC3 Dota and RNG on Bashes and Crits has been changed to a pseudo-random distribution. Removing it entirely would be a minor change, changing Daedalus to crit 1 in every 4 attacks rather than 25% of the time would have no real effect on the DPS.

>why would a game with RNG mechanics be favored over one that doesn't have it?
I don't think it would factor into the decision.

>>386690823
>Overwatch

how about you post a game that matters

>>386693162
couldn't you just say that those quake players got too old to aim well?

>>386690823
>this guy validates himself with vidya games
Come on dude, you're not fooling anybody with this projection.

>>386688827
This is pathetic at this point. It shouldn't be considered, let alone part of the olympics.

>>386701795
They are CURRENTLY the #1, #2 and #3 players, also Rapha and Cypher are under 30. Quake just isn't an aim-intensive game.

>>386689289
Literally the only times I've gone outside this week are to walk my dog and it's at night time and I think this is stupid

>>386702018
Interesting point. I always thought it was funny that legions of shitters on v were arguing about this and that game's low skill ceiling as if they were anywhere near it, or even remotely capable of reaching it themselves. Good on you for making a coherent argument against them.

>>386702338
There exists a gospel among /v/ underagers that Quake is some kind of legendary hardcore ultra game only played by literal supermen. So they want to pretend they know about it, as they're talking it up. Sad, eally.

As a fan of sports this disgusts me

>>386690114
if its dota or starcraft type games its gonna be asians winning
if its shooters its gonna be scandis or slavs winning
if its fighting games its gonna be asians or americans

>>386693902

You know as much as I want E-Sports to fuck off from the olympics, Painting Sculpting and artistry were a part of the Olympics of Ancient times.

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>>386702338
Overwatch is a casual game but it has nothing to do with the skill ceiling. It's a high-TTK game with headshots, the DPS characters have a very high skill ceiling. The casual part is the tanks, the supports and the ultimates. You can nulllify a player with 10,000 hours of hitscan experience with your 100 hours of D.Va experience for example.

>>386688827
maybe. but a lot of games would make more sense to add before it.

chess, poker, Go, billiards, darts, etc.

>>386693902
Tell that to literally every pro athlete who competes in the Olympics.

Also, the US dominates pro hockey, but sucks in the Olympics because all of our best pro players are Canadian.

Post your olympic e-sports line up.
>OW
>HS
>SFV
>Melee
>League
>CS:GO

>>386688827
No, absolutley not. E-sports has it's place, but it would be an insult to real athletes for some cheetos covered fat fuck to ever receive a gold medal.

Man, it's weird how much people think "run fast" is somehow superior to "click heads". I don't think esports should be at the olympics, but running in circles good isn't really that much better than doing button combinations good.

>>386704426
Running fast takes years of forging your body. Clicking heads doesn't.

>>386704093
100% this

>>386702675
I also would get blinded by the easy aspects of the game, thanks for bringing up these points, it still has some challenging aspects to it.
Wouldn't you agree that it isn't a very balanced or truly competitive game though?

>>386693902
>You know Olympic althletes have to be amateur right?
That hasn't been true for decades.

>>386705216
It's not balanced, any game can be competitive though

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>>386690823
I don't like it because all e-sports games are trash and still people dedicate their lives over it because they hope to become millionaires over the most autistic and unhealthy thing you could do for a living
Also, when I sit to watch the Olympics I want to see some impressive shit, not fall asleep to a bunch of people doing let's plays that I can watch 24/7 on Twitch

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>>386688827
why don't they create a DEDICATED ESPORTS EVENT to that purpose?

Esports is a meme

Starcraft was the only good one