Trails/Ys Thread

>>386661563
I'm much happier with this than them not localising them because we are not buying them.
But I hope this doesn't mean they start "Westernising" their games anymore if that makes sense.

I only play Ys never got into Trails.

I deeply hope they don't port stuff on Nintendo toys. It would be bad

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Bully the sword autist

>>386662773
Yeah, we finally have them working on stronger hardware i don't need another older gen tier machine downgrading the games. Just build the games on PS4 and then port on PC.

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>>386661563
I'm saving my Vita for just Ciel Nosurge when it gets english patch in the future. Don't really care if it gets more Falcom games or not in the future.

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Falcom also said they want to bring all of their games to Steam, including a bunch of their old ones. We could actually see the older Legend of Heroes games translated properly (the PSP bastardizations don't count) and the entire Ys franchise in English, not to mention we could see the Zweii series finally translated to.
If someone could bring up the quote, that would be cool.

>>386664130
Not with these sales we're not. We might see Nayuta's Boundless Trails and Memories of Celceta on PC, but I doubt it's a particularly high priority for them.
A constant stream of a little money is better than nothing, sure, but old games are a really hard sell. Zwei II is just about as old as you can realistically get and still have a market for; Crossbell has a shitload of text and anything else is probably just too much work to get running on modern computers and then run through Xseed's (nobody else is going to pick them up lmao) retarded marketing derpartment.

>the crossover will never come to the west

>>386665146
>irrelevant spinoff
who cares

>midterms in cold steel

Damn, this sure feels Persona now

>>386666062
Hope you went to the library to study. Your grad can suffer even if you answer all the questions right.

Hopefully that means they will start porting over older Ys games to the PS4 as well.

>>386666436
I only want oath, the rest can piss off

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>>386662476
President Kondo himself notes how the Western and East Asian Ys fanbases have mostly similar interests and wants.

>>386664763
Ys VI is from 2003 and has sold pretty well on Steam alone (the included artbook helps). Trails FC continues to sell better than almost all of XSEED's games and now there's a Turbo mode which will help more players finish it and move on to SC/3rd and Cold Steel. I doubt XSEED will ever localize anything before Dinosaur Resurrection (Zwei!! is more of a long shot than its sequel), so that's something they need to worry about. At best they might dip down to Sorcerian Original for $10 as a cheap, easy localization that may or may not run too well on even Windows 7.

Crossbell wouldn't be hard to port at all, no more than Ys Seven, and they'd even get more higher-res assets. Bringing over Nayuta probably won't happen without licensing a fan translation (a new group on the Heroes of Legend forum (where Celceta PC got its English patch) is doing a new, proper translation and edit now). We'd better get a port of Brandish: The Dark Revenant at some point.

>>386661563
YS 7 JUST ANNOUNCED FOR /PIRATEBAY/STEAM

>>386666853
Too bad I already pirated it on the PSP anon.

>>386666436
>Hopefully that means they will start porting over older Ys games to the PS4 as well.

The only worthwhile ones are oath, origins (despite some dumb shit), 7 and celceta.

>>386661563
>Trails
So do I play the first LoH on PSP, then SC on Vita, then move onto the Cold Steel ones?
Google is kinda confusing me on this

>>386667253
Play them all on Steam.

>>386667253
No.. You play the PC versions, which are vastly superior.

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>>386667051
I meant to add and Legend of Heros in that post too, but hit post because I'm working. I want a ton of Falcom games on the consoles as I mostly play single player games on them and PC keeps getting all the good shit.

As for Ys, I haven't played all of them yet which is why I would like the older ones to see which I like and which I dont.

>>386667253
Trails in the Sky (Vita if you know Japanese, PC otherwise) -> Trails of Cold Steel (PS3 or PC)

>>386667051
Whats wrong with naphishtim?

>>386667253
Play the stuff that is available on steam in this order.
Trails in the Sky -> Trails in the Sky SC -> Trails in the Sky the 3rd -> Trails of Cold Steel

>>386667253
Sky First Chapter: http://store.steampowered.com/app/251150/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_in_the_Sky/

Sky Second Chapter: http://store.steampowered.com/app/251290/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_in_the_Sky_SC/

Sky The 3rd: http://store.steampowered.com/app/436670/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_in_the_Sky_the_3rd/

Cold Steel: http://store.steampowered.com/app/538680/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_of_Cold_Steel/

>>386667253
So far, the PC releases are the definitive versions.

>>386667341
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>>386667431
>>386667473
>>386667572
>>386667607
But I love my vita

>>386667431
>>386667473
>>386667572
>>386667607
What's wrong with the PSP version?

really I enjoy long RPGs more on a portable

>>386667696
fuck your vita and it's load times

>>386667720
PSP version has

>Much older, ugly graphics
>Older translation with errors that haven't been fixed
>3rd does not exist in english on PSP or Vita at all.

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How the fuck do I but those 2 Ys shirts when nisa store blocks yurop?

>>386666784
>now there's a Turbo mode

Oh sick. I finished CS yesterday and decided to pick up my on hold playthrough of SC and I just couldn't deal with how slow it was after spending more time in CS with turbo on than off. Thanks for the heads up.

>>386667948
>Giving your money to NISA
stop

To be honest Trails series is painfully mediocre and barely comparable to Ys. It's extremely story and lore heavy with tons of text but on the other hand the game barely gives you any reason to read through any of that.

>>386662773
The Switch is more powerful than the Vita, where most of their game end up anyway.
I hope they don't become Nintendo exclusive and very much doubt this will happen, but Switch ports wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

>>386661563
Everyone uses this quote but he's not talking about America or the West. He's talking about China, Korea, and Taiwan, where Falcom games are huge and sell more than they do in Japan. The western sales are a drop in a puddle in comparison.

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>>386667809
Fuck you guys I'm playing them on psp/vita anyway

>>386667948
How do people still not know what forwarders are?

>>386666948
>26fps

>>386664130
Yeah I just saw Yesterday that Ys VII was listed on Steam, which just leaves me to play V once I get that, which I'm expecting to get a remake at some point.

>>386668000
Trails is the best RPG series. Ys is pretty bad in terms of everything, Opinions.

>>386668247
can't play Sky the 3rd on vita anyway shitter

>>386668254
irrelevant in turn based rpgs

>>386667720
It has a really awful translation compared to the PC version and lacks features. The third game is also PC only

Zwei II WHEN?

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>>386667978
No prob. Use Cheat Engine's speedhack just in case you have Turbo bugs which Sara @ XSEED's still fixing.

>>386668408
But that's referring to Ys Seven. Why play it under 60 FPS if you can soon?

>>386668263
Ys V's due for its remake, but I'm not expecting it for a long while.

>>386668476
Gonna be September now. That's still summer, of course.

>>386668408
>YS 7
>turn-based
did you sleep well today?

>>386668408
Ys 7 is more like secret of mana than anything, are you dumb

>>386668324
Well apparently you can have pretty bad opinions. Trails has nothing going for it really. Neither the story nor lore is especially interesting without anything to grip you at the very beginning. Combat is pretty much the same. Especially the beginnings when your options are extremely limited and then double so due to enemy resists.

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What is the consensus on Dragon Slayer? I like older JRPGs, and only recently discovered this one that is related to the Trails series.

>>386668770
>nor lore is especially interesting
Tell me more about bad opinions.

>>386668770
>if the main character's hometown isn't nuked while they're in the tutorial dungeon then the lore isn't interesting

I never played Trails in the Sky
The last JRPG I played was Grandia in the late 90s
Will I enjoy it anons?

>>386668992
Yes

>>386668992
If you liked Grandia, then you should definitely enjoy Trails. Give it a go, and enjoy Zemuria's wild ride.

>>386668870
That's the fucking plot not lore.
>>386668862
Yours is right there

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>>386668859
Almost all of Falcom's RPGs barring a few are offshoots of Dragon Slayer, you're going to have to be more specific.

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>>386668859
lol, That's one screwed-up scan of the cover.

If you're talking about Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes (II), that series is part of the LoH and DraSle franchises but unconnected to LoH III through V (known as the Gagharv trilogy) and the Trails series. Here's a guide to the Dragon Slayer umbrella. I recommend playing Drasle Family/Legacy of the Wizard, Faxanadu, and the Legend of Xanadu duo (English patches coming soon), plus Brandish (The Dark Revenant) and Popful Mail which are pseudo-Dragon Slayer since the Drasle creator helped make those.

>>386669315
>All these shitty irrelevant games
>Falcom finally strikes gold with kiseki

>>386669315
I had no idea. Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes was the first Falcom RPG published in the USA right? I thought that was the first Legend of Heroes.

I do mean the Turbografx CD Dragon slayer though. I found a copy and was looking into trying it.

have falcom announced what they are working on after cold 3, obviously something like Ys V remake is a future title but as far as i'm aware it's years and years away and is'nt going to be announced any time soon. Do they have anything announced/rumour confirmed in development?

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>>386669060
thanks

>>386669648
calvard arc

>>386669648
Either new Xanadu or a buffer Kiseki game.

>>386669745
nah there's no room for a buffer game. Kiseki only has like 4 games left after CS3.

>>386669425
>what's Ys

>>386669745
Definitely gonna have a sequel to Tokyo Xanadu coming up after Sen III. They're gonna be the new budget titles which recycle as much as possible while still feeling new. I want my proper Xanadu tribute in 2025, and it deserves to stick to the classic style.

>>386669830
>Kiseki only has like 4 games left after CS3.
Source? Falcom's said that they're considering a buffer game between Erebonia and Calvard much like the Crossbell games.

>>386669957
Falcom said after CS2 that kiseki was 60% done. CS2 was the 7th game in the series, so I'm assuming there will be around 12 games total. CS3 is #8, so I assume that would leave 4 more games.

>>386669957
Kondo himself said that, as of CS II, they're about 60% through the franchise. 4 or 5 games left seems reasonable. It was from an older interview which I should have bookmarked.

>>386669412
I am familiar with Popful mail on Sega CD. It's a whole lot of fun, and the English VA cast is endearing in their own right. I thought Legend of Heroes Dragon Slayer looked neat so I picked it up.

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>>386670127
i would be impressed and amazed if they actually do haev and end point as opposed to not just keep making games untill it isn't profitable

So is the Holy City of Arteria going to be Trails' endgame?

>>386670241
I'm sure they have the scenario mapped out and probably have for some time. IIRC someone said on here the other day that they actually had the scenario for Cold Steel done before Crossbell.

>>386670317
i dont doubt it's mapped out but just ebcause it's mapped out doesn't mean it can't be extended/prequel games/etc

Trails in the Sky collection for PS4 when??

>>386670241
>>386670317
Falcom actually wrote the overarching Trails story-line, from beginning to end (leaving out the small details) before they even released TiTS FC.

They pretty much know how each game's going to start, where they generally want the plot to go, and how each game's going to end almost two decades ahead of time.

Most of the small details are added or thought of during actual development though. IIRC Thors was going to be a straight-up ruthless military school rather than a glorified """military""" high school, and Erebonia was going to be much more blatantly fascist like how Olivier hints at in Sky.

>>386661563

>more games for the more common platform
What's there to discuss. I think its good people are showing their interests for the games they like. I haven't played a LoH games since Trails in the Sky but it was always a fun standard fare JRPG series. Same goes for Ys, it was always the good kind of predictable.

I've been playing a lot of JRPGs lately anyways since so many are on handhelds now. Been considering Cold Steel. But I just finished Breath of Fire 2 on GBA so I don't know what to play next. Considering Dragon Quest VIII on 3DS or maybe Star Ocean 1 or 2 on PSP

>>386670729
Dragon quest is my favourite series but honestly i think VIII is one of the weakest entries, there's just something slightly off with it. It doesn't have the magic of a lot of the earlier entires. Early Star Ocean are good as well. I'd rtecomend doing 1 before 2 but any of those 3 games are good.

>>386670208
Popful Mail CD also just got a rebalance patch to make the game less difficult (Working Designs boosted enemy/boss stats without care for balance). I need to replay it. Would love to see the PC-X8 originals in English one day.

>>386670729
DQ IV through VI's nearing the top of my backlog now that I've done some weirder stuff (like Shadow Hearts).

>>386670639
Now you actually make me want to play the better version of CS

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>>386670559
Falcom was asking on twitter for cold steel 1 and 2 for ps4 so port is coming. Nothing about Trails, sorry.

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>>386670480
Pretty sure Falcom ending Trails just means we're going to get a completely new Legend of Heroes series in the future, set in a different world.

>>386670874
>Popful Mail CD also just got a rebalance patch to make the game less difficult

You mean recently? Because god damn, some of these enemies are tough. I thought it was because I was used to being coddled by newer games that auto save after every room.

>>386668049
You must be dumb, PS4 sales are the highest in the west, china barely has more.

>>386671137
Or an epilogue series taking place in future Zemuria. That's what I want, personally. Just extend the septian calendar timeline and show us what happens much later.

>>386670848

Yeah I played VII last year for the first time on 3DS, never had it on PS1, really liked it. Haven't fully finished a DQ game in a long time either so it was nice to have it portable. The way the game flowed felt better on a handheld anyways (each island felt like a mini episode)

I've heard nothing but praise for 8 (handheld limitations aside) so I'll see how I feel. I have also heard it's different so we'll see.

And yeah, despite how weird it seems, I've always been really curious about Star Ocean. I've had First Departure forever but I dropped it a long time ago for no reason in particular, just didn't have time I guess or got distracted. I keep hearing 2 is one of if not the best so I'd like to try 1 and 2 and see how they compare

>>386670874

Yeah DQ4-6 are bretty gud. I didn't feel too strong about 4 and admittedly never finished 5 on DS either but I loved 6. Was really good and the story was actually decent too. Someday I'll finish 4 and 5. I've been trying to be better about finishing games I start unless theres something objectively bad or something I don't like

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Port all to Ps4 and Pc, at the end all are fans of Falcom games.

>>386667809
A fangroup is working on english patches for the Vita Trails Evolution games. Theyve already released FC evo and are working on SC and eventually 3rd. They also said that should the crossbell games ever get a PC localization that they'll patch that into the Vita EVO versions too

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>>386670269
>Trails finale
>you play as Ouroboros members and crush the Septian Church and defeat Aidios

>>386671645
Why would Oroboros turn against the Grandmaster?

>>386671262
Hello, retarded nigger. Please look at the OP of this thread and tell my why PS4 sales aren't relevant to what I said.

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>>386667572
Is 3rd really necessary?

>>386671107
A Falcom employee tweeted that and even said it was their own opinion at the bottom. I'm not expecting PS4 versions of Cold Steel for a while, though it makes a lot of sense to remaster them for console users.

>>386671137
Yeah, no way they won't try some new in-depth saga later. Falcom likes this style of game but also isn't afraid to do new things. They'll do a spinoff or two once Trails concludes, but

>>386671259
Patch is up here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/gwak1aw2kgi108g/Popful+Mail+Un-Worked+Design+v3.zip

>>386671920
Highly recommended. If you like/love FC and SC for its characters and worldbuilding, 3rd's got that in spades (but with reused areas for dungeons and a lack of NPCs outside the side-quest Doors which are the bulk of development for returning and new characters/lore).

>>386671920
Why the fuck else would they make the game if it wasn't necessary in a series where every game is connected? Are you genuinely retarded?

>>386671920
Yes, it absolutely is, since it sets the stage for all the following arcs including the unreleased one.

>>386671920
Why would it not be necessary? The events of 3rd were pretty much unavoidable once the liber ark crashed into the sea at the end of SC. It's the logical continuation, and conclusion, of the Sky trilogy. Plus it offers tons of insight into future games and explanations for things from the first two.

>>386671920
Even if it wasn't it's the best game available in English so I don't see why you'd skip it.

>>386672229
>best
Well, I was under the impression that it was just worldbuilding filler but if it's the best then great.

I dropped SC at chapter 8 for some inexplicable reason over a year ago and never got back to it, so I watched the rest just now.

>>386664852
Why is she so mean?

>>386672470
yeah it's not really filler unless you assume that an ancient floating city with remarkable technology could crash into the sea and nothing weird would pop out of it or be found as a result.

>>386672470
You got memed by butthurt vitagen faggots.

>>386661563
That's why NISA stole the Ys license from XSeed. Falcom only cared about the highest bid, not their decade long relationship.

>>386673298
NISA also handled Europe distribution for Celceta and CS (II), which Falcom's president mentioned as a tipping point.

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>>386670208
Is he /ourguy/?

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>>386673505
Blackie is best worst elf

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>>386661563
So how's the fan translation for the Crossbell arc and is the one for the second as well?

I want to play through both games but I don't feel like reading through a half assed translation.

>>386673298
NISA basically wagered all their funds on Ys and pumped everything they had into pulling the license out from under Xseed so it's not surprising. They needed a big IP to stay afloat now that Dangit Ronpaul is petering out and their bad reputation is catching up to them and they know Ys is the biggest game they can get that doesn't have a big overlap in demographic with their past releases, since the Ys fanbase is mostly ignorant of NISA's half-assing.

>>386673985
The fan translation isn't finished yet. Someone leaked a years-old unfinished translation patch that's barely edited and google translate tier at times, but it's probably not up to your standards (by which I mean if you have any standards for translation quality at all, it won't meet them).

>>386671920
3rd is incredible. It has it's own self contained story which is very interesting alone.
Also it wraps up parts 1 and 2.
Also it sets up parts 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and very possibly 9 and 10 also but we just don't know yet.

>>38667063

I don't know about that. Crossbell didn't exist in FC and wasn't even on the map or even namedropped until SC.

>>386661563
Please someone answer DO IN NEED TO BEAT LEGEND OF HEROES TRAILS IN THE SKY 1-3 TO PLAY COLDSTEEL 1-3?

>>386674925
No, but you'll get a lot more out of them and the Sky games are fucking good anyways and also have turbo now so I don't know why you'd rob yourself of the experience.

>>386674925
no you don't but you suck a bag of donkey dicks if you skip it because you want to date waifus in cold steel you persona loving degenerate

>>386674925
No, but there will be more and more that you don't get as you progress through the cold steel series. Especially cold steel 3, where the Crossbell, Liberl, and Erebonia arcs appear to be converging.

>>386674925
No, but you'll need Zero & Ao for CS3 :^)

>>386675101
Ok thank you. I'm playing trails 1 right now and it's incredibly fun. I just don't know what the timeline is and I didn't want to spoil myself by looking it up

>>386668247
>Fuck you guys I'm playing them on psp/vita anyway
Hey, I'm not gonna stop you from shitting your own bed.

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>>386675185

You're probably fine just knowing that gnosis is basicly demonic adderall

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>>386673985

Zero's translation is great, Ao's is very sloppy.

>>386675391
Erebonia arc literally could not happen without crossbell arc. Not to mention the dozen+ returning characters, some of them massive crossbell spoilers

>>386673985

https://geofront.esterior.net/2017/08/06/milestone-25/#comment-110

tl;dr: Zero PC patch is 25% done and Ao PSP is 50%

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how about you localize the crossbell games then you fucking faggots

>>386675718
falcom are faggots, they don't really want to share kiseki with the world. If they did then they would localize their own games instead of using companies like xseed and nisa

>>386675718
>implying people will stomach PSP graphics after being exposed to CS on Steam

it's never coming out, CS2 is already confirmed on Steam and CS3 probably next year too. Just stick with the fan translation since it's all you'll get.

>>386668049
>He's talking about China

There isn't a single Falcom game for sale in China.

>>386675989

there's PC versions of Zero and Ys Seven completely in Chinese.

>>386675989
Are you retarded?

>>386666784
When's this releasing? Thought "Summer 2017" and that's like a week or two left.

>>386668049
Western sales matter since Kondo's seen the numbers and says Celceta has sold more over here than anywhere else. As far as Ys is concerned, games like VIII have jumping and solo sections now for reasons.

>>386676268
Summer technically lasts through mid-September. I'm expecting maybe mid-to-late September for Zwei: II, depending on how much attention VIII gets which could take away from this release.

>>386676268
No. Fiscal summer is July - October.
November and December is "Holiday season"
January February is "Delayed from Holiday season"
March is "Get this out before the end of the fiscal year!"

>>386676134
and Celceta

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>>386676465
Coulda sworn Summer ended near the start of Sept and not near the end. Well I have other games to play in the meantime I suppose.

WHY IS YUNICA SO FUCKING CUTE

>>386676134
>>386676212
In Chinese=/=Available in China.

Video games are still largely banned in that country. There's only three PS4 games available, and none of them are from Falcom.

>>386675928
>implying people will stomach PSP graphics after being exposed to CS on Steam

Why would they use the PSP version instead of the PC version?

>>386676785
Anon you realize it's still easy as fuck to get a hold of games in China? Especially since Falcom already had an established fanbase there with their PC games that all started importing Chinese kiseki games from Taiwan the moment the console ban was lifted.

>>386676883

there's no PC version for Ao

>>386675928
How would it be hard to stomach PSP graphics after being exposed to PSP graphics with PS1 animations?

>>386677083
>Falcom already had an established fanbase there with their PC games that all started importing Chinese kiseki games from Taiwan

So you agree with me? If they were available for sale in China, they wouldn't have to import them.

>>386677143
Sky always reminds me more of Dreamcast JRPGs than PS1 because of better image quality, effects, and larger environments.

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>>386677242
Okay, that changes LITERALLY nothing about my original post.

>>386677508
I was talking about Cold Steel.

>>386676883
MUH GRAFFIX

>>386677546
Yes it does. Imports from Taiwan count as Taiwan sales and nothing else. As far as Falcom is concerned, the Chinese sales of their games are a big fat zero.

>>386677849
Aside from all those PC sales they've had for decades, you mean? And the massive increase in Taiwan imports since the console ban in China, IE the fucking reason kiseki now gets day 1 Chinese translations?

Cold Steel is very boring

>Emma
So when is she going to reveal herself to be Enforcer #whatever?

>>386678441
I'm having a blast. It's nowhere near as stylish, but I'm having more fun than I did with Persona 5.

>>386678441
Trails is very boring.

>>386678441
Maybe if CS1 and 2 didn't cover the same amount of ground as FC did in a third of the time

>>386678640
I'm assuming you're a PCfat who is playing CS for the first time?

Keep playing

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>>386678441
Your opinion is very boring.

>>386677960
How are sales from "decades" ago relevant to today? I'll give you a hint: they aren't.

Unless you think Falcom is run by retards that don't know how to manage a business, they aren't looking at China and thinking "yes, this is a serious source of revenue."

anelace best girl

>>386680103
What a coincidence, Yun Ka-fai is best boy.

>>386679973
Not from decades ago, you fucking retard, FOR decades. China is a huge source of sales for Falcom, directly or not.

>>386672025
Kinda late, but thanks Anon. I had no idea the Pandora's box I was opening trying to get into Falcom games.

>>386673505
>The part where he actually namedrops Melrose Place

What a weird feeling in 2017.

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>>386682728
No prob

Reminder that a Zwei!! English fan translation's being finished in preparation to launch alongside Zwei: Ilvard Insurrection. It should be a little rough and buggy before fixes, but I'm excited.

>>386682845
I think i've heard of Zwei, but I also might be thinking of Herzog Zwei. It looks gorgeous though.

Where the fuck are they selling Ys 8 in the EU for pre order?

>>386682845
Legend of Xanadu I&II when

>>386683025
Falcom got their mojo back in 2001 not with a new Xanadu or Ys, but this cute little dungeon-crawler called Zwei!! which sadly won't get a (good) HD version ever. You switch between melee and mage protagonists while doing level-based dungeons separated on a non-linear overworld. The story's not that involved, but it's apparently their funniest game with Falcom-style NPCs and cozy music to make the rather basic combat more fun.

>Dana didn't join Adol
I knew what would happen in the end but i'm still a little bit mad.

>>386683335

That's one of the thing with Ys, the games aren't linear timewise, and the newer games are smack in the middle of the timeline, so they can't add stuff that isn't in the later chronologicly games.

>>386664852
She is so cute I want her to attempt beating me up it'd be adorable.

>>386684529
>Attempt
Estelle would turn you into a broken mess.

>>386683335
Adol would probably just go off on his own again anyway.

>>386684746

She's female and like 5 feet tall. There's no way a girl of that size can beat me up.

>>386683271
>Zwei!! 2 released worldwide this year

That might be why i've heard of it. It looks beautiful though, might have to give this one a try soon.

>>386681767
How does Falcom know that without any sales data? Jesus Christ you're retarded.

>>386685243

Yeah but she's like level 90 and can turn into a flaming bird.

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>mfw playing cold steel and loving it

fuck, sometimes it's cliche as fuck and Rean goes full edgy when fighting the big golem and saving her sister, holy shit I thought you guys were being ironic because of the title but I love all of them, there's not a single character I hate, even Machias "gas the nobles" is actually starting to warm up on me

should I drop it and start from the first one? I'm on chapter 4, and the game seems to be veeeery long, 35 hours in, but I don't know if it has it's own self-contained story or if the game would be more enjoyable having played all the previous one etc etc...

>>386685821
You should definitely give Sky a go, because it will add a lot to your experience playing the other games.

>>386685821
You've started, no reason to drop it now, you've already been spoiled of most of the stuff CS would spoil of TiTS.

>>386685821
Considering all the games follow the same overarching plot it doesn't really make sense to play them out of order.

>>386685821
I couldn't stop laughing during the game's final hour with how retarded it was but I loved every second.

>>386686985
but considering the three first games are maybe like 200+, it would be weird to let the game on standby, and seeing how CS2 is close, maybe I can finish CS1, play the other kiseki games and then when CS2 launches, play it

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Calvard when?

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>>386683238
After Dinosaur Resurrection.

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Did you play Dawn of Ys yet?

>>386689886
We might get English patches for Dinosaur and VM Japan soon, according to the hacker behind them. I think Legend of Xanadu I & II are coming quicker since they're down to the QA phase.

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>we will never have good versions of the Gagharv trilogy

It hurts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8osmyqAuCSo

>>386661563
>nufalcom
who cares

How many times do characters mention holding back in Cold steel? Im counting more than 7 at the end of Bareahard so far

>>386691756
>wait a second...
>....
>I sense a presence...
>you too?

I still love it

>>386691832
>...
>Is something wrong?
>No it's probably just my imagination
JUST

>>386691971
better get used to it

>>386691756
Everyone has to hold back in trails otherwise the series would be over in the first game.

>>386691832
Is this sensing shit ever explained?
I remember Rean saying something like that to Elliot in the dorms and Elliot is just like "The fuck his he going on about?". It was one of the funniest moments of the game.

>>386691971
>Rean, I want to suck you dick
>haha... no thanks

what did they mean by this

>>386692113
It'll probably be explained in CS3

Good news.

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I want her to suck me dry bros

>>386670317
I've read once that the lyrics of the final boss theme of zero actually spoil the plot of CS and beyond
was I being bullshitted? because I can kinda believe it

>>386692498
i think its the Azure arbitrator but i can't understand shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8CmfRgxvVQ

>>386692403
she's a slut

>>386689323
>>386689323
>>386689323
This.

Exploring the countries and places mentioned by older games is my guilty pleasure.

>>386692498
>>386692623
Azure Arbitrator actually does """spoil""" the entire Trails series, but by spoil it's mostly just cryptic gibberish that doesn't make sense until you've played the games.

>>386693164
can any falcom wizards tell me of the chanting/lyrics in merciless savior or EOV means anything?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1GhOzlGXQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4v7EBXB-oc

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>>386692498
>>386692623
>>386693164
Did somebody ACTUALLY translate the Azure Arbitrator now, instead of just speculating?
Got any links to it?

Last I heard the lyrics were half gibberish and half ripped from some public domain song "that everybody knows, which is why Falcom doesn't reveal what it is"
which always sounded like bullshit, but it sure does sound like gibberish still

Be real with me.

What are the chances we'll get Zero and Ao anytime soon?

>>386693646
essentially never if you want it officially

>>386692756
she's a pure slut

>>386693571
>Did somebody ACTUALLY translate the Azure Arbitrator now
A bunch of faggots in Falcom general and some guy in music threads say that Azure Arbitrator's lyrics entirely go over the events of Sky, Crossbell, predict Cold Steel, and presumably predict beyond that.

>>386693723
Like actually never or?
Or Kevin's game never?

>>386693832
Actually never, Cold Steel 3 is gonna be released in jp soon and xseed will skip zero/ao again to release CS3.

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Best character.
Best game.

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>>386694106

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Will Ys ever be badass instead of weeab again

>>386694393
Ys was always badass and weeb.

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>>386694393
All of Falcom's games are weeb and anime. It's annoying that so many people bring this up.
They're all anime weeb games that use the art styles, tropes, and conventions of the time period.

>>386694393
But falcom's almost always been excessively more anime than most other bigger players in the JRPG industry.

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>>386694238

This seems like the best place to ask. I've played the earlier ys games. If I want to get one of ys 7 or 8 on steam soon, which is better?

>>386694106
I'll give you best game

>>386694851
8 unless NISA fucks it up

>>386661563
will Ys game ever milk themselves to death?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bekkP37HcC0

>>386693812
We still haven't figured out the lyrics, so no worries. Falcom will probably stuff them in an encyclopedia later on.

>>386694851
VIII's the better game, but that doesn't mean Seven isn't worthwhile or even bad (it's in my top 5 for the series). If you can get both, do so and see how much of Seven you want to play before trying VIII. Seven's definitely gonna be less expensive and easier to run on your PC.

>>386695267
There's room for over a hundred games just based on Adol. If this company somehow lasts a century or more, we'll get them. And if they realize they're in risk of going under, they'll wrap the series up with an ending game at least.

Is there a way I can transfer my PC save data to PS3 for CS2? I don't want to wait for the sequel to be ported to PC.

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>>386695557
someone tried to transfer save data from vita to PC and this happened

>>386695828
>Two winds
How horrible.

>>386695828
Well that sucks, from what I gathered I get to keep Crafts, get an Accessory based on my AP Rank and some extra scenes for importing my save, right? I guess I can do without them.

>crow is still alive
nice

>>386675474
This the second or first?
I feel like I'm a little over half done in the first and I don't want it to end yet.. just finished the 'mansion' part.

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So I noticed in the Orbment Quartz section, sometimes lines have different colors, Rean for example have the normal gold, then blue, red and green lines. Is there any point in matching quartz with those?

>>386692162
>Instead of studying let's just get naked and make a sweet fuckpile, you, me and my twin sister
>No, let's just keep our clothes on and study
Fucking nerd.

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>>386696531
>I feel like I'm a little over half done in the first and I don't want it to end yet

the pic you quoted is Zero and I know that feel very well, I just finished it (70hrs, had a blast) and I teared up like a little girl. It's a damn shame Ao's translation isn't ready yet, but oh well, guess I'll play CS now.

>Finished the Nord Highlands in 3 or 4 hours or so
Bless this turbo button.

>>386696547
No, lines mean literally nothing now that they have the casualized dumbed-down quartz system. The only thing lines affect is EP totals and how many status effect quartz you can equip.

>>386697443
I haven't played the Crossbell games, but I like this a lot better than what we got in sky. Where it was just juggling all of the near same mandatory quartz while still trying to get all the top tier arts on your casters and the support arts on your melee.

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>added a turbo patch to all the TiTS releases with the release of CS
>mfw niggas don't know about the cheatengine speedhack function

it also doesn't mess up the music, so it's basically a turbo button like CS

>>386697863
Nah, now it's casualized garbage for whiners who couldn't do arithmetic. Before it was actually unique instead of just "Materia but shit"

>>386697138
imagine having to fish without turbo

what a fucking hell

>>386698084
Where you playing when The Third dropped on PC? Everyone was using near identical orbment set ups with a few variations here and there. The only time it changed is if they were a casual who wasn't playing on Nightmare.

>>386698424
Everyone was using near-identical orbment setups on Renne because there was exactly one way to make Devestation Blast useful in the entire game, and it required Renne's orbment since everyone else had either two lines or too many elemental locks.

But in order to get the ultimate arts in CS you just equip the materia for it lel who cares about having to figure shit out or having restrictions on powerful attacks? that would be too hard for casuals.

where the fuck is my CS3 trailer. falcom!?

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>abend time in CS
>abend bar in TiTs

deepest lore

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>>386699090
>Kirsche's Bar in Sky
>Kirsche's Cafe & Inn in CS

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>>386699090
>that NPC in Liberl that mentions Cassius' plane crashing instead of just getting hijacked

Is Elliot gay?

>>386692113
I'm really curious about it to but I haven't finished the game or played CS2. Millium asks about as well it to which Rean and Gaius say that it's just some shit they picked up while training.

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>>386699513
>with no survivors

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>>386699596
Super gay

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>>386699596
what do you think? he has a hot sister that literally wants to suck his dick and is a perfect wife and he fucking rejects her

it's like Rean, but at least Rean likes Alisa in a swimsuit

>>386700258
To be fair if my dicklusting little sister was Elise I would reject her too

>>386700342
was talking about Fiona, Elise is yandere material

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>>386699596
>>386700034
Rean is Elliot's boyfriend!

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ok, I fucking exploded here, Estelle is great

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Oh my fucking god, is it me or northern highlands is even bigger? Fucking sheeps

>>386700676
You're just getting started. There's plenty more of best girl where they came from

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>>386700763
It gets even bigger in the 2nd game

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>>386699596
I bet he's swimming in bitches in CS3 now that he's no longer a manlet.

Playing ToCS right now and I just saw Sara mention the police unit the MC of Zero/Ao is part of.
Stop teasing me, you fucks.
Also all of these games are pretty close apart, with CS taking place a mere 6 months after TITS 3rd.

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I want to impregnate Estelle

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>>386701943

>>386701943
Get out of the orbal net, Joshua.

>>386669412
>>386669315
How many of those games are translated to english outside of the Trails subseries?

>>386700676
wow, seeing that old joshua portrait takes me back

Where do I start with this series? Should I go away before it's too late?

>>386701639
Well, CS and Crossbell are literally at the same time so get ready for more references and spoilers. The fantranslations seems to have picked up the pace though so maybe you'll get a patch before localized CS3.

>>386702170
Play the Sky trilogy then play CS.
>Should I go away before it's too late?
People are usually careful with spoilers in these threads but since you asked you probably just jinxed yourself.

>>386702170
In this order:

Sky First Chapter: http://store.steampowered.com/app/251150/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_in_the_Sky/

Sky Second Chapter: http://store.steampowered.com/app/251290/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_in_the_Sky_SC/

Sky The 3rd: http://store.steampowered.com/app/436670/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_in_the_Sky_the_3rd/

Cold Steel: http://store.steampowered.com/app/538680/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_of_Cold_Steel/

>>386702415
>linking to Steam instead of GOG

>>386702170
Ignore oldfags. Play Cold Steel first, then the Sky trilogy after. This way we can shitpost together.

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>>386702376
>careful about spoilers
sure buddy

>>386702476
Doesn't really matter 2bh. If he cares that much then he can just go search on gog. Personally, I just prefer people buy on Steam because at least there's something like steamspy that gives us an educated guess regarding sales.

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Finished with Legram and heading to Garrelia/prologue-land and it just fucking hit me that Towa's going to fucking die.

>>386702925
Sounds like you're asking to be spoiled, anon. Just keep playing the game.

>>386702476
Steam is DRM-free in this istance. There is exactly 0 difference.

Is it possible to change voice language of Cold Steel?

>>386703014
Yes, you have to download the japanese audio voice files and replace the english ones.

>>386703014
Yes, download the Japanese audio.
https://nyaa.si/view/946737
You just need the JP audio folder, then copy paste the files.

Should I get TiTS FC via g2a or wait and give money to xseed? Pretty cheap there

>>386703081
>>386703178
Thanks anons

>>386703184
yes

>>386703184
You should give your money to XSEED. You and the rest of us will be more likely to have other games translated within the next century if you do so.

>>386703239
oh, and there's a dummy.zip there as well, remember to copy and paste those files as well, if you don't you will still hear some loose english dub here and there

>>386703353
You have a good point, I'll wait for summer sale

>>386703424
Isn't that next year?
At any rate, you can still pirate them in the meantime and buy a copy whenever you feel the asking price is acceptable.

>>386702925
Remember to thank KeA later

>>386702925
>CS only fags

>>386692113
>>386699812
Are you losers so uncultured that you've never seen Seven Samurai?

>Bought Cold Steel on PC even though I played it on vita because I'm a Trails fanboy
>Start it up
>Play a little bit
>Check out some videos of people playing on better machines
>Can't bring myself to play it anymore because I don't have a PC that can run it on max settings and I feel like playing it on low doesn't do the excellent port justice
fml

>>386702925
It's too bad she didn't die, but then again, it would mean the destruction of Crossbell and a lot of good characters too, which just barely isn't worth it.

So we can all agree that McBurn is future Rean from the alternate timeline where he failed to stop Crossbell from being nuked, right?

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>>386702521
>see that pic
>play the entire TiTs trilogy expecting for some massive twist where she's the grandmaster
>it was actually fucking gilbert

Seriously, fuck you and whoever posts this pic.

>>386703686
>implying she didn't die in the alternate timeline of the prologue because Crow and Millium never joined the class so he made sure the railway guns fired

>>386703764
Also I spoilered the second half of that post, what the fuck Hiroshimoot.

>>386703764
Interesting thought. I had already assumed that there will be an alternate timeline twist in CS3, and I kinda like the idea of McBurn as future Rean, but I never thought to connect the two before. That could be pretty fun.

>>386703178
Can I use this to pirate the DLC with a legit copy or will Steam get pissy about that?

>>386703998
>alternate timeline twist
>twist
Alternate timelines were literally confirmed with the crossbell games and Cold Steel's prologue being slightly different than when you actually go to the fortress

McBurn being alternate timeline Rean somehow makes a lot of sense when you put together the little pieces and connect the dots between the two characters

>>386704316
Where does Rean's vampire loli tulpa fit in?

>>386703806
>>386703998
>>386703764
HERE IS THE BIG TWIST FROM CS3, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST:

>Prologue of CS1 was an alternate timeline where Crow never joined Class VII, never made any connections to anyone present at the trade conference, and therefore ensured the railway guns fired
>Crossbell obliterated
>Rean loses it right then and there, sets off the chain reaction that leads to him becoming what we know as McBurn
>KeA is aware that all of this is going to happen
>She alters the timeline so that Crow joins Class VII, becoming friends with Towa and the others , therefore ensuring that he wouldn't fire the railway guns
>Crossbell, the SSS, everyone is saved again
>However, McBurn-Rean got his hands on the septerrion of time and traveled to the fixed timeline to test his alternate self

>>386703998
>>386704316
The "McBurn is Rean!" nonsense is just shitposting that a few autists take seriously.

>>386703007
gog is a better distributor. if a game is on both gog and steam there's literally no reason not to get it on gog.

>>386704608
I disagree, McBurn-Rean has just as much evidence to support it as Gaius the dominion did prior to the CS3 reveals that strongly suggested it. McBurn being future Rean sounds like the exact type of thing we might see from a Trails game with the sept-terrion of time potentially involved.

>>386703007
>>386702914
GOG lets you download all the extras and wallpapers and stuff in one go, Steam required you to get trading cards and open booster packs to get the wallpapers.

>>386675928
I wonder what people will claim is "never coming out" once official localizations for Zero and Ao are announced.

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>>386704576
>CS3 ends with Rean getting McBurn powers and turns into a good McBurn vs evil McBurn 1v1

>>386704943
That would be pretty fucking hype 2bh. Might redeem Rean entirely as a protagonist if that happened.

>>386704943
McBurn calls his own Valimar

>>386705125
b-b-but McBurn-Rean never would've had the chance to awaken it to begin with.

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>>386675989
>There isn't a single Falcom game for sale in China.

Wrong. Bought this there. Thanks for playing.

>>386704710
Stop shitposting.

>>386705265
That guy is a retard who thinks console games are the only games in existence, ignore him.

>>386704943
I don't think it'll end that way. It'll probably be one of the last fights in the final dungeon, sort of like the Loewe/Joshua fight on the liber ark

>>386704136
I think you can, but to be safe you will have to use the crack, get the DLC from the items menu, then remove the crack and go back to playing normally.

Just know that the crack will make so the save files are placed on a different folder, so you have to move them around.

Wait, if we're going along with the "McBurn is future Rean" thing, then perhaps my theory that Rean's ogre powers are based on having the septerrion of fire INSIDE HIM might have some ground to stand on.

>>386705665
only if it's inside his butt and causes it to burn everytime he shits

estelle is mcburn

>>386705265
Shouldn't have to explain this but used games aren't the same as commercially available titles.

>>386705334
Six hours later and you're still mad. Impressive.

>>386705834
obv it's in his chest. It was put there by Osborne in order to create a super-soldier to do his bidding.

>>386705859
Six hours later and you still think you were right. impressive.

I just started Trails in the Sky, how important is it that I do all the board quests? I'm still in the prologue and I'm looking at 8 quests. I've done the majority of them but I really just want to move on with the main story.

>>386706089
Not an argument.

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>sharing a starry sky with Alisa
Goddammit, the game keeps pushing Alisa to me and she's a great girl, but I'm not dancing this dance with you Falcom, I'll be loyal to my waif and there's nothing you can do about it!!

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>>386705859
>used

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>>386706356
I love you, President Towa!!!

>>386706443
Ignore him. He's an idiot who doesn't know what a PC is.

>>386706190
Not particularly important. It's mostly there for chievos and completionist stuff.

>>386705859
Uh, it's not a used copy anon. Well it IS, because I used it. But it was commercially available when I bought it, y'know, from a brick and mortar store and with paper money and stuff.

>>386706606
>with paper money
stop lying

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>>386706356

>>386675989
>>386676785
>>386677242
They're for sale in Taiwan and Hong Kong, which are part of China.

>>386706875
No they aren't.

>>386706959
Hong Kong is a part of China.

>>386707060
Yeah, and Guam is part of the U.S.

>>386706190
Completing all sidequests (including hidden ones) nets you achievements and special rare items on the next game. Some of them are good, though, and worth doing just for the sake of the quests themselves.
To complete the game 100% without a guide, you need to check the board and talk to every NPC after every single main quest event. May sound boring, but that's the real meat and potatoes of TitS

>>386661563
Oh look Falcom is making a m i s t a k e

>>386706564
Read the OP.

>Foreign sales have reached a point with both the Trails series and "Ys" where we can't ignore them from a development angle anymore.
>the PS4 userbase is pretty established elsewhere, we have begun shifting toward PS4 development.

PC sales have nothing to do with it.

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Give me WHAT I WANT, FALCOM

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>>386707936
No.

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>>386707936
Popful Mail coming back would be like a dream coming true. Falcon could pull off a good modern side scrolling action rpg if they tried.

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>>386707936
>>386708474
The popularity of the whole "cute moe anime girl action RPG platformer" died after the PC Engine decades ago

There's no mainstream market for Popful Mail

>>386708676
>The popularity of the whole "cute moe anime girl action RPG platformer" died after the PC Engine decades ago
You better believe that market is alive and well on Steam.

>>386708676
platformer" microgenre****

>>386707936
Meh, that game's too dated and simplistic to appeal to today's market.

>>386707936
>>386708474
>>386708676
wtf? i thought falcom only made mature and deep rpgs like tits fc.... not dumb anime waifu shit like cold steel.

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What role do you think this new original character is going to play in CS3?

>>386708952
the edgemaster

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>>386708927
Falcom pretty much popularized vidya fanservice/waifus desu

>>386708952
Gee whiz. I hope he has a big role.