Why is artillery so underrepresented in video games? Also, post SPGs.

>>386654096
Take everything that is annoying about snipers in vidya and amplify it several magnitudes.

>>386654096
Because players hate indirect fire. That's literally it. If your team is getting shelled from afar, over half the players will be too ignorant to actually do something about the artillery piece and instead just run right back into ground zero to get shelled again and complain about it being OP on forums

>>386654096
It's not, you're playing the wrong games dude. Try out rising storm/red orchestra. You can't go wrong with what you pick because all of them are still played by their autistically dedicated fanbase.

>>386654916
Battlefield has some dank mortar shitposting.

Men of war has a whole field of tanks made for indirect fire.

>>386654096
Because you end up with either map clicking or angle calculating, none seems fun.

>>386654096
wargame is quite good for artillery

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>>386654096
>Just continuously spam shots from safety and hope that something hits

>>386654096
There's that level from CoD2 where you play the Desert Rats under siege in a town surrounded by Germans. When they start the offensive you give coordinates through binocular spotting to that Scottish guy who relays them to an artillery team. Was pretty fun.

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>>386654096
play wargame and have fun using the absolute king of artillery

>>386654096
Artillery is abundant in strategy games but in FPS with vehicles its almost non existent

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>>386654096
they're everywhere in battlefield games

>>386654096
It seriously depends on how its done.
If they actually have to aim their artillery fire then that's fine.
If they have to just click on the map with the red enemy dots already on it? fuck that

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>>386654096
Shogun II Fall of the Samurai had good artillery

>>386654096
because if artillery falls on you you die, and if you fire it you kill some dude so far away you don't even see them so it's not fun

sad but true

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>>386655318

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Artillery is fun

Because it's boring as fuck. I mean artillery is awesome but it's boring.

>Artillery. Turn a few dials, BLAM, wait a few minutes to hear if it did shit.
>Not artillery. Middle of a fierce gunfight when the ground explodes and everyone dies.

It's just zzz

>>386654096
ima let you finish but W:ET had the best artillery of all time

>>386655520
It's not fun if you're literally just guessing and spamming.
Using it on known chokepoints or high traffic areas feels really rewarding even if you don't see them.

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>>386655654
>playing any game where you can't hear the artillery before it makes impact
its garbage

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Artillery is the best goddamn thing manking has invented.

The ability to unleash complete destruction on your enemies from extremely long distances is extremely satisfying. If there is a way to use artillery in a game, you bet I'm using it.

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>>386655339
That's not Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun's Nod Artillery.

Great firepower
Amazing Range
It could even hit moving targets.

Too bad Westwood nerfed it in the update reducing the range and screwing its ability to hit vehicles. In the original TS, you could anihilate your enemy with 5 of these.

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>ArmA servers are always a craps shoot with artillery
>It's either just click the map or outright disabled
>tfw an autistic buddy and my autistic self never get the chance to be an artillery team with one of us in the artillery making the shots and another one of us standing on a hill above the battle with binoculars calling out where the shells slash down and calling for adjustments

>>386656013
I was talking about real life artillery. If you want sci-fi stuff the SupCom has things like rotary nuclear cannons or some shit

>>386654096
fuck artillery in world of tanks

>>386656320
You're playing the game wrong.

>>386656387
just dodge the shells brah

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>mfw shitting on a general area with MLRS in arma 3
Setting up 10 of them and just flattening a place is a great.

>>386654665
>over half the players will be too ignorant to actually do something about the artillery piece and instead just run right back into ground zero to get shelled again and complain about it being OP on forums
Read my fuckin mind.

>>386655654
This. It's not especially fun for either side involved. Especially in Molson's like squad or Arma where you literally just punch the map coordinates into a mortor calculator and click the fire button every ~10 seconds.

It's not especially fun for he artillery guy and very unfun to get blown to hell by something you could never see coming as infantry

>>386654096

Why not just use tanks as artillery? just tilt your cannon as high as possible and shoot.

or why not giving artillery the ability to turn their cannon 360° like tanks.

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>Rising Storm 2
>Team couldn't take C point after trying for 10 mins, keep crying for fire support
>Call in arty on C point, keep giving everyone reminders about the time left till shells hit
>8 friendlies dead, kicked from the server
>Had 92 kills that round, more than 3 times the points of the next best guy

>>386657019
Because the recoil would blow the top off?

People already don't like getting killed by things they can hardly see like snipers or tanks taking advantage of their range, so things like artillery would only make matters worse considering your average person can't or won't change their playstyle to account for long ranged attacks.

Even in more niche and realistic games like Red Orchestra, Squad/PR or ArmA, you still see people refusing to do much like taking cover or trying to do something against it.

>>386654096
I think Rising Storm 1(RO2 expansion), and Darkest Hour(RO1 expansion), have nice artillery setup.

ARMSTRONG GUNNU READY.

>>386657019
Artilleries have much bigger cannons compared to tanks. They will literally flip over if they fired their guns outside of certain angles. Also, they have way less armor and more shock-absorbing tech.

>>386657538
SHAMFUR DISPRAY
WHITE PIGGU GO HOME

>>386656049
Fellow autist here, how many games have actually allowed this?

I used to do it in BF1942 until I found out that recon can just pick targets for naval guns and it'll automatically show them where to aim to make the shot.

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>>386656049
I've only ever found one game that had that shit enabled. It was such a hectic misadventure.

>Go into a low population map so I can play with new toys and not get kicked for being an idiot
>Like 3 other dudes in the map doing the exact same thing
>See mortar gear
>OH SHIT
>Set it up, start messing with it, can't quite figure out the specifics
>Global "Hey, anyone know how mortars work? I can't figure it out."
>"No. Were there packs for it in the inventory?"
>"Yeah."
>"Sweet. Let me get back to base and see if we can figure it out"
>We start fiddling it
>Eventually the two other guys show up and between us four we make progress
>"Okay, lets go set up behind a hill and see if we can do this. Get the truck loaded up."
>Drive out
>Get it set up
>FUCK ITS STILL NOT WORKING
>Wait, did anyone get that one pack?
>Shit, no. Back in the truck!
>Back to base
>Coming back out
>Can't find the old set up
>FUCK
>Back to base for another mortar tube
>Set up again
>Dude I can't shoot
>Oh shit, I just noticed there's actually a mortarman job slot
>I switch and drive back out
>Okay, we got this. Get to the hills around the point
>Me on the mortar, adjust angles, think that seems right.
>Click
>FWOOMP
>"YES! It worked! HAHA! Oh uh.. Package away, splash in twenty"
>Guy comes back on radio "YES IT WORKED! You weren't even close. Like you hit the hill behind the town."
>Everyone cheers, radio high fives all around
>"Anyway, adjust like.. shit, half a click closer"
>"What's that in degrees?"
>"You're the mortarman."
>Right. Adjust.
>FWOOMP. Splash in 20
>"Uh.. that was like almost the same spot."
>Shit
>Adjust less gently
>Fucking EXPLODE
>"Uh, guys, what happened? I'm dead."
>"What?"
>"Oh shit, I can see the jeeps from here. Everything is on fire."
>"What happened?"
>More explosions
>"OHSHIT ENEMY ARTILLERY"
>Everyone scatters
>Rinse and repeat trying to destroy enemy mortars before getting mortar sniped several times

We never killed a single thing but holy shit we had fun.

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>>386654096
The only artillery I can think of off the top of my head is advance wars

>>386658227
oh yesss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y70XddToyqY

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>Playing RO2
>climb up to the highest floor of a half destroyed flat
>see enemy tank rush in distance
>order artillery strike to approximately where I estimate the tanks to be in a few seconds
>total devastation, 3 vehicles dead, together with some infantry using them as cover
>see infantry wave approach
>order mortar strike on them
>complete massacre
>kicked out of the server

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>>386654096
Because artillery dominates any ground battle in real life.
Ground battle means no air-to-ground.

>>386654096
Play Zulu Assault.

>>386658029
This almost makes me want to try Arma.

>>386658650
Are you >>386658784 ?

Foxhole has a dank artillery system where 2 players control an artillery piece. One of them moves it and spots with binoculars, the other fires the artillery. Also Verdun has artillery/mortar depending on faction NCO and there is also the option to use Gas Artillery as well.

>>386658794
ArmA has one hell of a learning curve and there's people out there that take it way too seriously.

But holy shit is the game fun if you get in the mood, get semi-serious yourself and learn how to actually play and know all the eight hundred buttons that to useful things. It's like learning dorf fort. Stick with it and you'll have a retarded amount of fun.
Once you get being infantry down, you'll almost always want to try being a helicopter pilot carting people around or being an attack helicopter. Another steep learning curve but dude.. Zig-zagging between hills in an attack chopper and laying down a line of rockets and decimating a group of enemies that have your infantrymen pinned down feels so good you'll pop a rod that'll rip your pants.

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ITT anon has not played the greatest artillery RTS of all time.

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>>386659564
>tfw let my bro borrow my warzone discs and he lost them

>>386654096

I was gonna shit my pants with anger cause of artillery in wargame red dragon.

>>386658794
Protip: Bots are way better at seeing and shooting you than you are at seeing and shooting them. It's slow going. Not a game for the impatient run-and-gun types.

>>386655809

why didnt their clothes burn off

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>>386659906

1) Slap his shit

2) Its freeware now. https://wz2100.net/

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>>386660064
>Creeping down a hill with squad, trying to get out of the bushes to get a bead on the enemies
>Hear bullets cracking through the bushes
>SHIT
>Hit the dirt
>Hear over the radio "Five in the bushes across the road"
>Roll to the side, see a road on the other side of the bushes
>"Cease fire! Blue on blue! We're in the bushes!"
>"No, that's not you guys.. is it?"
>"Someone shoot and we'll listen."
>Dead quiet
>"Anything?"
>"No."
>"FUCK TO THE LEFT"
>"WHO?"
>"SQUAD ALPHA"
>"FUCK AM I ALPHA OR FOX"
>"AAAAAAAAH"
>"BLUE ON BLUE! BLUE ON BLUE!"
>"NO ITS NOT US"
>"AAAAAAHHH"

I think most of the fun comes from the fact that the bots are stupidly overpowered and no one really has any clue what the fuck is going on half the time.

>>386655654
>>386656803
It's only interesting in strategy games, SupCom and wargame are probably the best examples.

>>386654096
the artilllery in mercenaries what top tier

>>386661218
Oh?

>>386654096
>Firing artillery
>Click A, adjust, Click A, adjust sights
>Receiving artillery strike
>Either drop what your doing to go and kill the guy or just try to grin and bear being shelled
>Half your team isn't even near you at any given time because they're firing artillery or running to and from the artillery.
It'd work if we had more planetside tier #of players in a fight but even for 40v40 it just wouldn't work.

BF1942 had it

I remember playing something years and years ago with artillery trucks. Used a flying spotter camera to blow shit up around the map.

Might have been one of the unreal tournaments or something

>>386654096
Same reason why people in tank games don't play loaders,

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>>386654096
SPGs are still somewhat represented in vidya

This beauty on the other hand doesn't get the attention it deserves

>BF3 release
>Unlock Mortar
>Generate Salt for days

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>>386665047
>He doesnt know he can spam smoke AND HE shells

Artillery jus doesn't fit the scale of most games, it needs to be adjusted, the damage must be toned down so it's never a hit kill, bu then this will affect the suspension of disbelief as people survive direct hits from artillery shells, also even if you had completely manual targeting with spotters and shit, people would eventually learn the maps and the best spots to blast away and it would be really non fun to be on the receiving side.

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>>386664945
>Western MLRS

>>386655969
Underrated unit.

>>386655626
Hey what game is this?

>>386667058
looks like modded arma 3

>>386667186
Hmm thanks, figured as much

>>386654279
This. While also having shit gameplay if it isn't super simplified and easy to use.

>>386657019
Different gun + insane recoil

>>386657548
You can direct fire arty, it just isn't useful anymore because you can use man portable rocket launchers or ATGMs instead.

All this talk of arty reminds me of something kind of related.
>Friends convince me to pick up reign of kings.
>Game is complete dogshit. Buggy and full of hackers.
>One redeeming feature is the trebuchet
>Takes a huge amount of resources and space but the map was small enough to hit pretty much any point with it.
>Basically a medieval surgical strike weapon
>sending out a scout in the general vicinity of where a shot would land and calling out back to the team at the trebuchet to make adjustments.
>Raided many different bases this way and nobody even found out where we were located.

The SPG techie in squad cleans up.

>>386654279
fpbp

>>386655445
This thing is the biggest pile of shit, just like the mortar tank (the Mark v)

Have to land a round directly on someones head, it's a massive piece of artillery and even if you land it directly next to them it does like 60/100 dmg. Why the fuck do they even bother

>>386670704
It's a support weapon, you are supposed to coordinate its fire with ground assaults.

>>386671072
co-ordinate all you want, it still does fuck all damage comparative to it's real life counter-part. Minutely so,

It's pathetic really. It's also supposed to be the "behemoth" on that map, when your team is pushed back to the last point/spawn and it's utter garbage, the only kills you might get are counter mortar, and even then I've landed shots right on their skulls and not killed them out right

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>>386654096
Don't mind me, just posting cutest SP-ART

>>386671327
>Not Wespe

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>>386665047
God, BF3 salt was incredible.

>Like support in Battlefield
>Oh shit, they get a mortar? Lets check that out.
>ALL THIS SALT
>Oh shit, they get a thermal scope on a gun that you need to reload once every two months? And there's a pallet here you can see under that is nearly impossible to get a grenade behind?
>Goddamn saltiest place on earth

>>386654096
Play CoH2 as allied forces and proceed to shit all over Axis with cheaper and more efficient artillery and armor.

Fucking Jacksons shitting on Panzer IVs, never seen something so dumb.

>>386655339
Wargame artillery units are either pure shit or pure cancer, no middle ground. Thinking about it, that sums up most of the units in Wargame.

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Just posting the silliest and coolest SPG ever invented.

>>386657019
Tanks have also physical limitations as to how far they can elevate or depress the gun. There's a reason SPGs are so much taller.

>>386673474
fight cancer with cancer.

>>386674386
I only play Wargame with bots these days, I can't deal with the cancer in multiplayer.

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I'm sorry I can't hear you from all the way over here.

>>386674668
The Cybran one is cooler, though.

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>>386674793
I love all artillery equally.

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>>386674668
>shells the size of a car
What were they thinking?

>>386654096
>Why is artillery so underrepresented in video games?

Mandatory in all Civilization games.
Present in HoMM games.
Present in Stronghold games.

There's artillery in vidya, its just not different from other troops most of the time, because you can't show on screen the difference in RANGE that it has to, say, a foot soldier. It would just make the game too zoomed out.

>>386665536
>russian airforce
>russian navy
>russian economy
>russian anything relevant

>>386675015
>I really don't want to send the army out tonight.

>>386675015
How do they intend to operate that?