Spirit of Justice

The death penalty for people just trying to do their job.

>>386638203
just wanted to know if it is good or not, memer.

>>386638295
I think it's great, lots of strong cases and characters.

>>386638295
fucking EXCELLENT

Second best game next to AAI2

>>386638530
>>386638545
nice. I thought AA5 was ok, kind of forgettable, hope this is better. Fucking loved AAI2.

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>>386638127
rayfa a cutie

i have no art tho

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>>386638127
It's alright, case 2 is fantastic, but the game as a whole is vastly overrated. Case 1 and 4 are really weak and some of the cool parts of case 5 were not handled as well as they could have been. It's not bad and the list I'm posting with this should have it above AJ, but I think people who say it's better than T&T are completely insane.

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>>386638683
It's definitely better than AA5

>>386638127
>Just bought this, what am In for?
Why don't you play it and form your own opinion, fuck boi?

>>386638883
>high tier: dual destinies
Shit taste confirmed

It's average
Nothing terrible, nothing fantastic.

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>>386639041
/v/ only hates it because /v/ is retarded

>>386638989
what was wrong with dual destinies?

>>386639135
nah it's just genuienly crap

>>386639504
It completely retconned everything they were trying to introduce with apollo justice, the dark atmosphere, phoenix retired etc, the vilain is probably the weakest in the series, the character developement is non existent yet they introduced 2 new characters, which means even less time to developp them. One of those characters, namely athena, is the worst character in the fucking franchise but they hang on to here so much that they had to write a convoluted crazy story in SOJ to wrap up apollo's story they could cut him off in the next installment because they realized there was too many main characters to developp.

>>386640243
AJ:AA got fucked by Capcom necessitating Phoenix be in it. Phoenix specifically states he wants to take the bar exam at the end of that game. Nothing was retconned, in fact there was barely anything TO retain because Apollo was almost completely undeveloped in that game. DD's atmosphere is practically a direct continuation to AJ with its focus on the "dark age of the law."

Athena is fine, you're just clearly retarded. SoJ is the game that ACTUALLY retcons things, giving Apollo a whole new foster family out of nowhere despite it effectively developing him less than his friend did in Dual Destinies.

Just bought whale DLC, what should I expect?

>>386640796
It's fun, pretty much the same quality as the rest of DD, maybe a bit better. It has a lot of elements unconventional for an AA story.

>>386640796
Best case of the game.

>>386640902
>It has a lot of elements unconventional for an AA story.
Also this.

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>>386638545
>>386638683
Eh, I say it's the third best in the series

Is Ku'rain inspired by Mongolia? I feel like I've seen those style of clothes before.

>>386640243
Unfortunately they haven't retconned anything from AJ except for the jury system. Kristoph was just forgotten because everyone hates him and his brother. Everything else is still canon.

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>>386641129
More like Tibet, according to the localisation blog.

>>386638127
The pool visions were a surprisingly fun mechanic.

Plumed Punisher theme...

AA hasn't been good since 2004

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>>386641649

>>386638127

It's pretty alright. The finale completely fails to deliver, but the build up is excellent. Probably the best first case in the mainline series, maybe even the whole series. Case 2 and 3 are excellent.

AA3>AA1=AA6>A2>A4=AA5
I should get my ass around playing investigations.

>>386641757
What? The first case sucked. Worst intro case in all the AA games as far as I'm concerned.

Is AA vs Layton worth playing if I love AA but think Layton is merely decent?

>>386641874
It was definitely the longest, though.

>>386641690
"Steel Samurai"?

Pretty blatantly a ripoff of Plumed Punisher

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>>386641874
Don't you forget [spoilerthe ]cask of bananas[/spoiler]
AA2 has the worst first case

>>386641757
>Probably the best first case in the mainline series
What? Fuck off. 6-1 was straight up dogshit.

>>386642019
I would've agreed with you before AA6 came out.

>>386642128
it is that bad?

first case ranking are pretty obvious tbfh
AA3=AA4>AA5=AA1>AA2=AA6

>>386638127
>what am In for
bad writing

>>386642397
No its actually fun but it's barely relevant to whole story beyond set up so AA4 fags hate it. A2 is still the worst.

>>386642736
actually this
SoJ story fucking sucks, and the final villain is even worse than Phantom

And Nahyuta is the worst prosecutor in the franchise

>>386642128
>>386642613
AA2-1 has absolutely no redeeming qualities. AA6-1 at least had metal Jesus and Royal Payne.

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Official reminder that the song "Cheerful People" is officially Bonny DeFamme's theme and she's also the cutest!

https://youtu.be/sgnw22FZoDo

I'm glad Apollo Justice is coming to the 3DS in a couple months, didn't want to emulate it so that's cool.

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>>386642995
>meet her
>"Please don't let her be the killer or secretly a total bitch."
>eavesdrop on her with Johnny Depp
>mfw

You have no idea how glad I am about that plot twist reveal.

PAUL ATISHON 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abdX3zjq6-s

>>386643939
Please tell me someone has the webm of him casually walking away from the witness stand mid interrogation.

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>>386644115

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>>386644242
God bless you.

>>386638989
This gif speaks to my soul.

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Reminder.

>all these people hating 6-1 when the reason why it's so long is because it had to set up the game's atmosphere and main conflict
Also, Metal Jesus was absolutely fantastic. Fuck off.

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>>386644242
>>386644115
>"Do you know anything about the incident?"
>"No."
>pause
>walks away

That bit was much funnier.

>>386645071
It's boring as fuck, which only makes the fact that it's long worse.

>>386638883
>Dual Destinies above anything-
>>386639041
Fucker, you beat me to it, fuck off.

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Why are Appolo and Phoenix's Art twice the resolution of the other two?

>>386645071
>REE KILL DA LAWYER
Got old after the 59th time

>>386645346
Fan made cover

>>386645346
It's a mock-up of the non-existent western physical release.

>>386645346
They're just out of focus for some reason.

>>386645320
It was only boring up until Rayfa showed up. Come on now.

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>>386645478

>>386645525
Okay, let me put it this way.

The game is out in the west, you can download it to your 3DS, but you can't get a physical version.

BECAUSE of that, the game has no physical boxart to speak of, so fans had to make one themselves.

>>386638127
Its very bad imo.
gameplay is now pure linear no concurrent investigation anymore.
And the plot around Apollo is terrible.
The only thing I happy about is the return of Blackquill

>>386645185
I don't remember that. Thought he only walked away once.

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Trucy <3

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>>386645794
>yfw

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Why is trucy so cute? I want to pinch her little cheeks.

Tried getting into this series a while back, really enjoyed it at first. Kind of burnt out partway through justice of all when they started using that soul stone thing for everything instead of actual evidence, tried to pick it up again but dropped it after the circus case. That was such a retarded "revelation", killed my desire to see what bullshit they would pull during the final case. Wanted to at least finish that case, but since then lost the emulation save when upgrading my computer. Really don't feel like playing through the cases again, and that circus shit burned me for other detective games.

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>>386646469
>he dropped it right before the best case in the series
And if you think the magatama is a bad gimmick, then I have news for you

>>386646469
Good. Only neanderthals are unable to appreciate the 2-3, so it just means you aren't on the intellectual level necessary to enjoy these games. Now begone, and never post again without my permission.

The third best game in the series. A cute tsundere girl. A shitty first case.

>>386646725
>it's an "Acrofag tries to bait" episode
Nice try

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When are they gonna date ?

>>386646685
I'm not really sure if it's bad, it's just not what the first game did so I have a bias towards it.

>>386646469
The final case makes the whole game worth it.
Maybe you could try to find a save that has the first three cases cleared already?

>>386646469
2-4 is one of the best cases in the series, just download a completed save off the internet.

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>>386646869
>mfw Dhurke said Trucy is wife material to Apollo

Psst! Hey, you. I got something special here. It's the opinion they don't want you to see. Check it out: AA1 and AA2 are equally good.

>>386641939
It's a fun game. However the story is more Layton than Wright and the ending is fucking retarded

>>386647095
>AA2
Nah

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>>386647671
>rival is actually a good guy and starts helping you in the end
Give me a villain rival already.

>>386648328
>villain
>rival
Retarded. There've been plenty of villains though, play the games maybe.

>>386648328
Von Karma, kinda. For one case.

>>386647671

Godot did literally nothing wrong.

>>386648524
>>386648530
I mean the main prosecutor or whoever you're against most of the game.

>>386648636
Franziska and Nahyuta are guiltyfags up until the very end.

>>386648538
Godot did literally nothing wright.

>>386648636
Sounds like shit, villain procecutors are villains because they abuse the system and/or do illegal stuff. That shit either nets you a complete win or loss over said villain. You cant wiggle your way out of a case where a villain's used falsified evidence/testimonies or whatever else without proving his guilt. Then its either jail for him or game over for you.

If he's using the system properly he's not a villain.

It wont work.

I wish the twist with Nahyuta would have been that he was a willing follower of the regime instead of a blackmailed dindu. That would actually have been surprising and could have lead to some powerful moments. What we got was painfully trite and predictable.

Playing through the trilogy on my 3DS, is it me being a moron or is Justice For All way more unforgiving than the first game? The first game was a cakewalk compared to this, I feel like they just randomly chose what evidence you have to present at what times.

>>386649427
Not just you. Though I feel 5th case of the 1st game is on par with all of JFAs cases in being unforgiving.

>>386649427
I didn't find it that hard compared to the first game. Now, 1-5 on the other hand...

>>386649568
Couldn't agree more. Fuck that security tape video sideways.

>>386649089
>Sounds like shit
It's better than literally everyone except the culprit becoming friends with the main cast.

>>386649427
2-1 just makes no sense. I think the rest of the game is pretty fair but some of the answers for 2-1 are retarded.

>>386649427
It's been years but I completely missed the too short for hakama photo during my first playthrough

>>386649741
And it sounds like you didnt bother to read the post.

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>>386649427
It's true, they did spike up the difficulty for JfA. IIRC, AA3 is even a bit harder than both. I'm mainly running off of muscle memory, so it's not too bad for me though.

>>386649568
>>386649686
heh, honestly I didn't find 1-5 too bad
It's probably just me, I keep stopping and coming back to JFA's cases (and subsequently forget some finer details) whereas with the first game I'd get through each case in one straight run.

>>386649998
>AA3 is even a bit harder than both
The fucking mirror's in 3-3....

>>386649427
What constitutes difficulty in an AA game?

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Who do want to see more of in upcoming AA games?

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>>386650567
Rayfa bullying

>>386650474
Well, fucking up the Psyche Locks somehow harms your credibility in court for one.

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>>386650567

>>386650332
And the well-laid trap in one orange-skinned guy's testimony.

>>386650792
To be fair, would you want a Lawyer that ran around yelling incorrect shit at everyone instead of doing his job?

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>>386650567
Not exactly "more of" since he's never been there but I want him in. I know its impossible but I'd be hype as fuck.

>>386650820
Iris is CUTE.
C U T E.

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>play spirit of justice
>find out it's an apollo game

Post YFW

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>>386649808
I kind of disregarded the rest of it since I didn't mean the prosecutor has to be the culprit.
Also sorry for using "villain" when "antagonistic" describes better what I had in mind.
I always manage to mix up the two.

>>386649290
This could've been one way to make things more interesting.

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>>386651126

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>>386651126
Spirit of Jove Justice

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>>386638127
Bullying for the princess.

>>386651126
I would have said this is a terrible thing until I played the game. After 3 appearances, Apollo finally found his voice, stopped being so fucking boring and got gud. Was great.

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>>386642995

>tfw made this webm when i finished the game
>it's still used in aa threads

They were really cute tho. AA6 probably had the most cute girls introduced in the whole series in one go.

>>386651241
All prosecutors have been antagonistic as fuck. Maybe you just dont like the united front of defense and prosecution that happens in most last cases is all and want the prosecution to hold their position right?

I wouldn't really mind. Though the way I see it some really bad shit is always going down on the last cases. Prosecution holding their position on said shit would feel like they're actual villains instead. Remember, despite the anime this is about finding the truth, both fronts agree to that.

Even so Godot and Franziska which people mentioned already have held to their antagonistic nature all the way through. Franziska only mellows out after the trial and Godot outright becomes a villain even if he thought he wasnt.

>>386651687
:3

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>>386651126
>tfw betty and bonny are only in this image as a literal bat and rabbit

Would it be fasted to learn Japanese and pirate DGS or wait for a translation?

>>386651985
That's a couple of years vs an eternity, anon.

>>386652103

I meant the fan translation.

>>386652129
That's a couple of years vs an eternity, anon.

>>386652216

But they've already finished episode 1?

>>386638683
Spirit of Justice is league better than the disappointment that was Dual Destinies. SoJ is an actual return to form for the main series after AJ and DD.

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>>386651985
Yeah. Learning enough japanese to play a AA game could take you 1 year and a half at best.
Meanwhile, the fantranslation could take even more years.
And, if you learn japanase, you can play almost every single vidya months or even years ahead of most of the people.

>>386638127
i'd say it's better than AJ, DD, JFA, and AAI, but worse than AA, TT, and AAI2.
It's definitely better than the shitty layton crossover though

>>386647671
>godot's shit but klavier and franny is okay

i want off this ride

So if 2+2 is 9 dose that make Steven the worst gem

>>386651985
If you want to enjoy reading DGS, you're gonna need at least a year of solid work to be proficient enough to get the jokes because there's a lot of word play you'll miss otherwise.

also I was under the impression somebody did a DGS translation, either or youtube or for carts. Unless you mean 2.

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>>386651985
Case 1 apparently has two witnesses who give even the main character trouble with their Japanese. Really makes you think.

Anyone played the Great ace attorney 2 yet? How is the game?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFmEm6CKFDw
>that solo at 7:30
Ace Attorney mashups are the best.

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>>386655904
Why does Apollo get the best Objection?

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>the DGS fan translators went full moralfag and put in anti-piracy protection into the patch, preventing anyone but physical cart owners from playing the translation
>this was meant to "spark a conversation" and encourage people to import (even though the sales of DGS1 don't even matter now since the sequel already got made)
>mfw it got cracked in a day, caused a huge amount of backlash, and resulted in more people pirating the game than it would have otherwise

Anyone else kinda disappointed with how DGS turned out? I just finished the last case and I felt like I only just reached the halfway point of a complete story.

>>386652307
Which took a year to get out. They're not going to finish it in a reasonable amount of time. You're better off learning japanese.

>>386652216
>>386652307
>>386658682
Most of the work with fan translation is hacking and reverse engineering the game to the point where the team can insert their own text and make according adjustments to the game itself. If they already got Case 1 completely finished that means they've already got a lot of the hard shit done with. The rest of the game should fall into place significantly faster now, I'd expect them to be done by mid 2018.

I dropped DD in the middle of case 3 sometime after Robin's true gender reveal and skipped straight to SoJ. Now I'm thinking about going back and finishing. I know the big plot spoilers but not too much about the details of the cases. Is it still worth finishing?

>>386661643
>skipping games
Retard.
Yeah it's worth finishing. Might as well even though you got shit ruined for yourself.

>>386638127

A wild ride, I suggest you experience yourself without any spoilers or shitty opinions

People are gonna throw their opinions and it's mostly complaining that the game didn't go the way THEY wanted it to, mostly nostalgia fags who pretend the flaws they pick or aren't present in the original trilogy

Overall, the game was great, right next to AAI2 and T&T as the top 3 Ace Attorney Games

>>386661764
>>skipping games
I can't even put into words how much I hated the game while I was playing it. SoJ wasn't even out at the time so it wasn't like I dropped DD because I wanted to play it instead. I just couldn't stand it. I'm just trying to convince myself to go back and continue and maybe it won't be so bad now that I've had time away from it.

>>386658290
Barely anyone here has played it and those that have probably don't want to spoil the game for everyone here.

>>386662183
You're through the worst of the game with Case 2.
Case 3 is alright, not amazing but is pretty decent overall.
I enjoyed Case 4/5 (they're part of the same finale case, Capcom just split them up to say the game has 5 cases) a whole lot. There's some dumb shit in it and it suffers from the same problem the rest of the game does with being too easy, but it's still my favorite case in the entire game.
And the DLC case is universally liked. Very solid filler case.

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>>386662183
The last 2 cases are the reason why you should play DD. Those and the DLC case are great.

>>386662285
Fair enough, just don't see why some people were holding it up as some superior alternative to AA6, not that I say either one is bad or anything.

>hear that dgs2 is on aai2's level
>Japan only

Fuvkkkkkkkk

>>386662670
>with Apollo's gone, the Wright Anything Agency is a cove of barely legal teenagers again
At least Phoenix is too old for that shit nowadays and one of the is his daughter.

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>>386662610
I actually wish they either cut or reworked the first half of SoJ's case 5. The case just drags on forever and doesn't really pick up until the second part. The Phoenix vs Apollo bit fell flat because the reason why it happened was a dumb rehash of 2-4.
>>386663113
It's not that good IMO. Doesn't really bring anything new to the table coming from the first one but it is a marked improvement.

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>>386662946
Most people I've seen unequivocally shit on AA6 have a hateboner for Apollo and everything mainline past AA3. Generalizing a bit but that might be why.

>>386638127

>Case 1
7/10
Best one in terms of obvious villains, AJ and AAI2 are the top dogs

>Case 2
9/10
Fun as fuck, and the ride of twists never stop and that character theme is fantastic

>Case 3
8.5/10
One of the better Case 3's, first half ends pretty fucking crazy

>Case 4
9/10
A lot of anons can't appreciate the timing and causality of this case, you either love it or hate

>Case 5
9.5/10
Depends on your opinion but I absolutely loved it, best boy really shines and kicks everybodies asses

>DLC
8/10

Not as god tier as Reclaimed but still good

>>386663301
Well, I fucked that up.
*with Apollo gone
*one of them is

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>>386651126

>>386663113
I'm not trusting Jap impressions. All the ones I read for AA6 said the game was bad with pacing issues; they went on and on about how Case 4 killed the pacing of the game and was a terrible case.

Fucking love AA6, Case 4, and had no issues with the pacing. Not trusting those chinks anymore.

>>386648228
The ending is really good IF you like Layton games. It's a return to form for the series after the prequel trilogy abandoned the types of twists that made the first 3 games fun and became obsessed with ancient technology.

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Who here is the cutest? My vote is on Simon

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>>386651126
>thought Case 5 would split into a Phoenix case after the first half
>mfw I saw Apollo's icon on the bottom screen after Day 1

>>386663669
I stand by the fact that Japs are excellent producers of content but have shit tastes in opinions.

Do you anons think the games after 3 should've been made? Or should've T&T been the end?

The game has Apollo in top form.

He has great bantz and kicks the shit out of everyone in this game. Boy can't be stopped.

Anyone here who actually loved the tone of AA4? The game had so much potential. The OST is generally dark, the plot is dark, everything is a bit more mature/less colorful and even Apollo is a more cynical MC than Phoenix.

I was a raging Phoenixfag back when the game released and I was kinda bummed out that AJ was the MC, but I was a fucking kid back then. Now that Phoenix is back as a lawyer, I realize that his story is well and truly finished and that he has nothing interesting to offer plotwise anymore. He's a great character still, but the game should just move on.

I also hated how they forced Trucy into a case just to keep her alive as a character, in a case that was totally unrelated to everything else - the case itself was also shit. And forcing Athena (even though I really like her as a character) into the game and having her take a case in which she seriously regresses as a lawyer was also a stupid idea, even though the case was based (thanks to Blackquill).

At this point, the game seriously needs to consolidate its cast. Stop trying to keep all characters relevant and forcing some screen time for them. Stop being so centered around characters and make interesting cases/overarching plots, like the first 3 games had. Of course the first three games were all about the main characters, but those games really felt like they came up with the idea for the overarching plot first, and then created the right characters for it. Nowadays, the AA games try way too hard to take the existing, established characters and try to give them the best cases they can come up with for who they are. It would be much better to just change the entire setting or the entire cast if they can come up with a much richer plot, backstory etc and better cases. I have to say that AA6 was a step in the right direction, but Capcom have to go way further. The game would've been much better with no distractions - AJ on all cases, Rayfa as his assistant-watchdog, and focus on the plot.

>>386663783
I'm a Trucyfag but Rayfa is the cutest.

>>386664212
I liked the ideas they were putting forward with AA4, just not how they executed it.

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>dude AAI2 is so great go play it
>case 2 drags on and on, and your opponent is a literal retard

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>Case 3

>Ah shit, Maya's in trouble, I guess I'll be investigating with Ahl-

>OH HOLY MOTHER

>>386664438
Agreed. But I think that that was truly because of how they had to shoehorn Phoenix back into the game after they had started developing a story without him in mind.

It also didnt help the game's legacy that the not-plot related games were kinda boring.

>>386664176
T&T should have been the end, but we got SoJ and AAI2 so I deal with it.

>>386664454
>He doesn't like bullying debeste

Neck yourself.

And that is the weakest case in the game, and is still pretty good.

>>386664743

Picking on mentally disabled isn't very fun

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A heads up, Apollo Justice is coming to the eshop in Novemeber

>>386664875
He's not even your real opponent, if you haven't noticed.

Who is the most realistic character in the games /v/?

>>386665132

I've noticed that's he's just Courtney's puppet but she's a dopey cunt so fuck her.

>>386664917
That's a really puffy vulva... r-right?

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Anyone else miss him?

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>>386665160
Design or personality wise?
I think Tyrell Badd hits both marks.

>>386665394
At least they actually used his name in the DLC case this time.

>>386665580
both

>>386665394
They should have used him as the detective for AA6-DLC but I suppose they had to create a model for just one case.

>>386638127
Great fun, one of the best Ace Attorney games since Investigations 2.

>>386665948
Well, they did it with Larry, so that's probably not it. I think it's more that they want to make a bigger deal about him coming back and thus not limit it to a DLC. I also think they might have set up his return for AA7 since Ema says she decided to keep working with Nahyuta at the end of AA6 so she'll probably mostly stick to Khura'in in the next game.

>>386665320
yes

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>>386664176
I would've been fine either way. Stopping with 3 and having Shu Takumi work on new shit (like Ghost Trick) would've been cool so long as the games were good.

AA4 was the right way to go if the series had to continue though; a soft reboot with a new protagonist, a (mostly) new cast of characters, Phoenix serving in a mentor role, and a new gameplay mechanic for future games with the Jury system. The problem AA4 ran into is that Phoenix stole the spotlight, the story of the game is centered around him and Apollo isn't developed much as a main character.

That could've been okay as a one-off thing, but then AA5 fucked everything up and brought Phoenix back as the main character completely, brought in ANOTHER protagonist with Athena, stepped away from attempting to soft-reboot the cast and brought back trilogy characters like Edgeworth and Pearls who haven't changed significantly, and dropped the Jury system in favor of continuing the same trial gameplay they've had since AA1. Basically, it backed away from a bunch of things AA4 was trying to accomplish and instead made the game about Phoenix's adventures again while also trying to juggle AA4's baggage.

AA6 is a continuation of the mess AA5 made the world, trying its best to juggle trilogy characters, AA4 and AA5 baggage, and introduce even more new stories and characters with Khrurain. What AA6 got right over AA5 is that they finally focused on Apollo's character and actually advanced the story in an interesting direction by having Apollo start his own law firm at the end of the game.

I still enjoyed AA5 and AA6 a lot (AA6 is top 3 in the series for me) and I'm looking forward to seeing how they continue the series and story from here. But I can't help but feel the series would have been better off doubling down on Apollo as the main character and the soft-rebooted world AA4 introduced. 4, 5, and 6 should've been an Apollo trilogy with the new cast and a jury system.

>>386638127
really really really tacky names

my girlfriend LOVES this series

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>>386638127
case 1: OK
case 2: good
case 3: meandering
case 4: rivals big top and serenade for worst ever
case 5: good, but plot convenience playhouse all over the place

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Just emulated this game on my phone, I enjoyed the first case yet, I haven't picked it up since. Why is this?

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>>386668519
Because it's hard to seriously enjoy a story-heavy game on a phone. Go get comfy and play them on a DS, they're great.
Also
>this game
Spirit of Justice is the 6th mainline game. I hope you didn't start with it.

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>>386651687
>still barely any porn on either of them

FUCK