Will they save rpg video games?

>>386635741
No, Divine Divinity was their only good game.

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>>386635741
>original

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No, this will

Are story and delivery as bad as the first one?
The no

>>386637354
Is that edér with the sword and shield?

>>386637437
>giving a shit about the story when it has a GM mode
Lol

>>386637437

Stories ruined RPGs. Fun gameplay is what matters the most.

>>386637512
This is the worst meme.

>>386637509

Now I'm Intrested I googled and see there's much freedom advertised
How much freedom there actualyl is?

>>386637437
>>386637550
story is serious this time

>>386638047
no it's not, it's stilly kiddy lolsorandum shit

>game tries to be funny
>its not

inb4 le cheese autists

>>386635741

Dunno man the first was kinda shit. Story was mmorpg tier at best and the combat, while fun for a time, really was not enough to carry me through the entire game. Maybe you need a Co-Op partner to find it fun enough but that's now how I want to play RPGs.

>>386638652

not*

>>386637802
>How much freedom there actualyl is?

Enough freedom for you to go back to school and take English classes.

>>386635741
Why did you run away from the truth???


>>386637854
>As I was saying, art direction is total fucking garbage
>pic related
>It will be on consoles and you know it, just like the first one
>THIS SHITTY GAME WAS MADE WITH CONSOLES IN MIND
>The writing is still total fucking garbage, full of bad jokes and immersion breaking shit
>the story is fucking crap and you can already say it by playing the ea, you cunt
>music is terrible, not as terrible as the first one(fucking circus music) but still fucking crap, they should hire mark morgan

>>386638261
>>Pillars of Eternity is also being ported to console, does that ruin it too?
>only because paradox jews want it, FUCK OFF!
>neck yourself you lolsorandum humor supporter
>talking skeletons lol! not in a mood for cheese LMAO!

>>386638640
>nice rebuttal you fucking newfag
>go play your kiddynity unoriginal sin with your console bros and fuck off

Circus music.

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>D:OS
>Play alone because if I want to rush through an rpg with others, I play WoW
>Have to play dice with your AI partner about decisions you made
>Their opinions on things aren't even coherent and feel 100% random
Yeah... No.

>>386639001
>not controlling both characters

>>386639001
You can control both characters, dummy.
Roleplay as a mentally ill superman tho thinks he is a male warrior and a female sorcerer, and argues with his two personalities.

>>386639001
You can set their personalities, one of which is always agreeing with you. You can also just manually control both.

>>386635847
fpbp

>>386639001
>rush through an rpg with others
I feel truly sorry for people who don't have friends who are into co-op and RPGs.

>>386638772
Have a (You)

>>386639473
People are, kids that grew up on smartphones have no attention span for them.

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>>386637802
You can create stories and quests on the spot.
You can place NPCs and create dialogues for them in real time (same goes for giving items and loot around the map)
You can take every single enemy and fit for your needs (giving loot, weapons, levels, spells and directly controlling them if you want).
You can also customize items based on what you want to do (something like a common with 150 armor and 999999 gold value just for shit and giggles)
You can also choose which "map" you want the party to go, there are some pre-set but there is an editor that you can create unique ones before the playing session.

They also managed to convince Wizards to give them a D&D campaign to use in the game for this GM mode.

I dare to say that this GM mode is probably better than the Neverwinter 1&2 ones.

>>386638772
Can you please say your fuck rpg codex stuff so i can filter you?
P.s. You're a faggot

>>386639001
>plays a co-op game
>complains when it's not optimized for solo play

nigger, you should've gotten the hint when you had to create two starting characters

>>386635741
If act 1 is anything to go by, they're saving all of vidya.

>>386637495
Looks like aloth and peregina too

>>386639609

Is party 4 max?

>can play as a literal skeleton
Nothing else matters at this point. This is an objective GOTY.

>>386640307
I don't know sadly but it's high possible.
They might do a 6 party but i don't know, maybe mods will help.

>>386640482
You can play as a literal skeleton written by Chris Avellone.

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>>386640752
>i wanted to buy it because OS1 was great
>when they announced the new race
>and who was gonna write it
>mfw

*talks like this*

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>>386642730
JUST AYY my elves up senpai

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>>386642706
What the fuck did they do to the dialogue in os2? Is this how it's going to be at release? If so, I'm out.

>>386642779
>elves aren't cute
Dropped.

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>>386642915
Dialogue is not important in a RPG, it has been decided.

>No voice acting

It's trash

>>386642915
It prevents the *glass him* issue of the text not presenting to the player what the actual dialogue is.
It also solves the 3 lines long dialogue options wall of text problem.

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>>386642981
They're elves. Nobody ever said elves were supposed to be cute.

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>>386643046
>It prevents the *glass him* issue of the text not presenting to the player what the actual dialogue is.
You know what also prevents that issue? Writing out the answer in full.

>>386635741
I'm debating getting this next month, or Pillars of Eternity this month. Which is, in /v/ opinion, the better one?
I played Divinity and loved the general idea of it, but my main hangup was how sluggish it felt and how every single character spoke like they had a thesaurus in front of them

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>>386643172
>how every single character spoke like they had a thesaurus in front of them
And you didn't get that vibe from PoE? Not even from the backer super special snoflakes?

>>386643172
PoE is only okay. Compared to the games it's aping it's only really better than IWD2.

>>386643172
they've apparently been focusing more on story this time but it will probably be the same deal of pillars for story and div for gameplay

>>386643009
Maybe Dialogue counts under Story?

>>386643172
Divinity is not an rpg game, it's not
It's a co-op console game made with retards in mind
terrible writing, story, circus music, shitty visual direction, bad jokes and kind fun but easy to exploit combat system

Pillars of Eternity had great mature story, decent writing, memorable companions, tactical combat system when played on potd, outstanding visuals and fine music
also much more replayability due to all classes and multiple endings

conclusion

play divinity if you want to have fun with your console buddy while drinking some beer or smoking weed

play Pillars if you want a true crpg experience

>>386643340
*tips fedora*

>>386643340
I really loved PoE, but I think you are giving it a bit too much credit.

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Elves are shit.

>>386643260
I haven't gotten to play it yet, my PC crashed a couple of years ago so I hadn't really heard about it until a few months ago. But if PoE has the same issues then fuck it
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>>386643298
You guys seem to be in agreement
>>386643340
And this guy just seems to be a raging autist. I'll just wait for DOS 2

>>386643172
PoE has become a nice game with all of the dlcs.
DOS2 is shaping up to be the best RPG in years.

>how every single character spoke like they had a thesaurus in front of them
Yeah, that's fixed. Dialogues are usually more concise, unless someone actually has something to say.

>>386642779
I like it, remind me of Kirkbride bosmer art for Morrowind.

>>386643462
>Ifan ben-Mezd

Looks and sounds like a mudslime.

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>>386643539

>>386642981
They are also cannibals

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>>386643493
>But if PoE has the same issues then fuck it
It has them even worse imho.

>>386643172
After finally finishing DoS here's my thoughts

(1) The UI is unpleasant and unresponsive. It doesn't immediately respond to clicks. Sometimes this means stupd deaths, such as when combat mode ends and some of your characters are Poisoned or Burning, I frantically look for the guy with the counter and click it, and it won't respond --> die. This is stupid. It's also unpleasant even when not lethal.
(2) Character-buliding is one-dimensional. It''s either Strength, Dex/Ranged, Dex/Melee, or Intelligence, with a little bit of variation in them and the possibility to salt it up a bit by putting one pip in a complementary skill (e.g. aerotheurgy for a knight, for greater mobility, or rogue for a ranger, for speed and invisibility).
(3) The attribute system is so dumb it might as well not be there. The only attributes that matter are (primary) and Speed. Pump anything else, and you'll fall behind on (primary), which will lock you out of your level's best gear/lengthen your ability cooldowns, which means you're gimped. (Okay, very late in the game there's a little wiggle room, but still.)
(4) The loot system is awful, terribad, no-good, depressing, like straight ouf of Dragon Age: Inquisition. Randomly-generated, level-locked loot and a crafting system that trivialises any weapons and armour you might find. It turns this whole aspect of the game into a tedious, soul-crushing grind, when it should be one of the main drivers of it. For one thing, there's no way to build around items since the items are random, bland, and throwaway. And you guys were complaining about Pillars itemisation?

>>386643612
I'm okay with cannibals as long as they are cute.

T.Bosmer.

>>386635847
kys dumb nigger

>>386643654
(5) Cooldowns baby. I thought the Codex was supposed to hate cooldowns? Why do you give them a pass here?
(6) Puzzles. Uniformly bad, tedious, pointless time sinks. They're either pixel-hunting for a hidden switch, interacting with random shit until something happens or you find a clue, or meticulously working through combinations, or idiotically applying the same technique over and over again. Yeah, teleporting a Sentinel out of the way was cool when I discovered it the first time. But the fifteenth time... augh, no. Autistic, boring, awful, terribad.
(7) Mines. They. Are. Fucking. EVERYWHERE! And while there are lots of ways to deal with them, none of them are interesting or exciting. You can pump Perception on one of your characters and scout forward, which is tedious. You can use the Fireball targeting circle as a mine detector and Fireball itself as a minesweeper, which is also tedious. You can use Perception potions etc. etc. All of these approaches are boring, tedious, and really fucking unpleasant the gorillionth time around. I mean once, yeah, sure, but again, and again, and again, and again, everywhere. FFS people

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>>386643462

>>386643717
(8) Worldbuilding. As in, it's not even ethere. This isn't a fantasy world, it's a theme park, a random mishmash of elements thrown together, like an 11-year-old dungeon master in his first campaign.
(9) Writing. Bad. The humour is almost uniformly un-funny, again that prestigious and refined 11-year-old taste. As well as the mandatory loredumps in poorly-fastpainted cinematic interludes, books, and what have you. And you were complaining about Pillars' writing? Compared to this, it's fucking Dostoevsky and Raymond Chandler combined.
(10) Difficulty/level curve. The power curve in this game is steep, you literally go from zero to god. This puts serious constraints on the worldbuilding as (without level scaling) it will inevitably become a kind of a corridor; stray more than two ... maybe three levels or so off the path and you'll get clobbered. Also, Void Dragon notwithstanding, the difficulty doesn't keep up with the power curve -- after the early game, which was pretty hard, things got soporific fast. Only the final bossfight was kind of hardish for me, and as final bossfights go it wasn't /that/ hard -- and I was playing in Tactician mode, a level under the target, and didn't prep all that well.

Seriously people, if this is your idea of a great cRPG... I don't know what to think. Everything this does well, the likes of Battle Brothers or Pillars do better, and they don't do almost any of the really braindead stupid stuff that this trips on all the time.

>>386643654
>The only attributes that matter are (primary) and Speed.
You forgot Constitution to raise your AP cap and Perception if you're ranged. Having nobody with Perception is a fucking death sentence in any of the trap laden areas if you don't want to savescum, too.

>>386639609
sounds exactly like the one that came with sword coast legend

>>386643805
>giving (You)s to the Codexposter

>>386643146
You know what also addresses that? The post you quoted.
>It also solves the 3 lines long dialogue options wall of text problem.

To write the whole answer you either have short answers, which is dumb, or have walls of text, which is inconvenient.

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>>386643903
>or have walls of text, which is inconvenient.
Speak for yourself, mouthbreather.

>>386643923
THICC

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The most important choice.

>>386644057
Oud is the clear choice, everything else is for faggots.

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>>386643980
This is the "short answers" case, you moron. Most of these are 2 words.
This image represents the case where several long lines blur and are difficult to read, and I end up having to read them twice because my eye gets the line wrong or whatever when reading down, and as my play session progresses I don't even read all, I settle for the first that seems agreeable.

>hurr ur casual ur newfag
Don't bother, I've been there and done that, and I know that this way of presenting dialogue options is not good.

>>386644057
Tambura 4 lyfe.

Tbh they all sound great when they come on.

>>386643778
that's odd because those are all the problems i had with pillars of eternity

>>386644162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGKowUNYrKA

My man.

>>386635741
Not with that insane price

>>386644112
Damn that hair looks like a graphical glitch.

>>386644405
$40???

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You're going to play as the superior undead race, right anon?

>>386644112
What's that staff?

>>386642730
>>386642779
These look pretty cool

>>386644405
$40 for infinite replay value is overpriced now?

>>386644595
Is it even going to be a starter race?
I thought you'd become a lich or something at some point in the game.

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christ, the character models are still terrible and the writing is still shit
oh well, maybe dos 3 will be better

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>>386644649

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>>386644649
You mean sexy.
>Tentacle cock horn

>>386644712
Yes, undead are a starter race that will be available on launch.

>>386644595
Absolutely.

After my first playthrough as Lohse.

>>386644761
Hmm, that's weird because there's no undead in the starter area. I wouldn't be surprised if the twist is that you turn into one at some point.

>>386644720
I remember the scene in your screenshot and neither of the conclusions you made passed my head. I thought "this is cool".

>>386644720
Literally what is wrong with any of that writing? It's not even trying to be funny which is normally the first sequitur.

>>386644595
>>386644807
>Not playing dwarf.
Filth!

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>>386644595
Fuck yeah i will, bonerfucker.

>>386635741
>RPG games

>Roleplaying Gaming Games

>>386644824
There's an undead female mystic at the small escapee village where the soldiers are that help you escape. She's covered head to toe in robes but a check makes her admit she's undead.

>>386644879
Dwarf was my first choice until I saw their baby beards.

>>386644824
The merchant in the swamps.

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>>386644732

>>386639001

Change their personality to none my friend, then you pick EV-RY-THING

>>386644732
>Nessa and the Brine King.jpg

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>>386644649

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>we want the sickdark audience

>>386645260
Original Sin 1 already had a woman's soul tied to an Iron Maiden torture device, that felt a sexual lust to kill men, to bathe in their juices (blood), feel them "inside her" and so on.
But nevermind, because lol silly talking dogs what a shit game.

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>>386645363
When will you American prudes get it that sex is not edgy in Europe?

>>386645363
99% of /v/ never left the first map

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>make a lizard because boring humans and human-likes are trash
>make a female one
>that walking animation

>>386645492
I won't be given lessons in morals and ethics by people who let their children go to the beach without covering their breasts, for all strangers to see.

>>386645536
Fuck off, furry.

>>386645649
Again that obsession with tits. For your information, kids go to European beaches fully nude.

>>386645510
The first map contains a lighthouse operator who crashed his wife's ship because he saw her embracing another man, and killed everyone on board.
It had a pedophile whos ghost was afraid to go get judged, so he was stuck in limbo between the living and the dead.

>>386645689
>Not appreciating thicc lizard thighs

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>>386645689
>Lizards
>furry

>>386645756
>kids should go around strangers naked
t. Abdul al Islam.

>>386637354
i bet you fantasies how niger fucks your waifu :3

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>>386645875
>confusing burkas with European's healthy, nude lifestyle
Can you be any more American? France literally made it a crime to go to a beach with clothes on.

>>386645848
>p-please use my special snowflake label
It's all the same degeneracy.

>>386645492
>a torture device speaking with a lustful female voice about being penetrated and draining men of their life juice

This is lewd even by Yurop standards, surely.

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>>386646108
Anon that comic was complete satire; why are you trying so hard to look cool?

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>>386646131
No. Pic related is a strip from a kid's journal.

>>386646257
I don't speak arabic, so I don't get your hentai.

>>386645689
even without that, they shake their hips way too much

>>386647304
Nah nigger, they shake em just right

You ARE going to pick an Origin character, aren't you, anon?

I'm playing this as soon as me and my buddy finish the first one. We're in the second major city and as far as I understand, we're in the second half of the game. I can't wait.

>>386648250
No, I'm not gay.

>>386644516
>>386644686
Its $45 now because its in early access. At launch they will raise the price.

>>386648914
No, they won't.

I like the story of the first game. It was fun and lighthearted. I feel sorry for you edgelords who cant enjoy things anymore.

>>386644732

Is this Divinity's version of Queen Slug-for-a-butt?

>>386643340
>memorable companions
There is barely any interaction, you might as well replace them wih generic recruited characters.

Daily reminder the vast majority of /v/ never finished the first map. They all got stuck in the murder case because they dont like reading. So many people here pretend to be ''hardcore serious gamers'' and then suck at them hard.

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>>386649330
Reminds me of this. Half the threads were people asking how to play it and progress.

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>>386645363
There is nothing wrong with talking dogs.

>>386645772
>who crashed his wife's ship because he saw her embracing another man

That never happened though. They were just friends but he took it the wrong way. Typical men jumping to conclusions and fucking up.

>>386635741

I don't understand. Is it out yet? It has a price tag on steam and I can buy it but you're all talking about it as if it weren't released yet.

>>386649589
Early Access. Full release is in november or september I think. It will have split screen co op which is pretty cool to be honest.

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Bros

Post the male lizard model. If it's shit I'm not buying the game

>>386649997
Die degenerate furfag.

>>386643734
>>386643923
I didn't know they had Burger Kings and McDonalds in Rivellon

Do you still have to litter the battleground with shitty summons to even stand a chance in any fight or did they fix that in 2?

>>386644720
*teleports behind you*

>>386650153
Anon, I think you might be bad at the whole "tactics" thing.

>>386650142
>Caring about the quality of character models makes you a furfag
Die degenerate console pleb

>>386650153
God damn you are bad.

>GM Mode

shut up and take my money

>>386650313
>i-ts the quality of model I care about! I dont want to fuck a lizard or anything! I swear!

kys

>>386637354
>tubbler incorporated saving anything

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>>386649503
>dogs

>>386644720
I hope they improve the dialogue presentation for the real release because with asterisks and uppercase tags between brackets this looks like utter trash.

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>>386650543
Whats with this game and cats?

>>386650543
What is this, a webm for nanomachines?

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I never got around to finishing the first game, is this one going to be a direct sequel or could I just hop straight into it?

>>386650654
That's how Larian posted it on their twitter

>>386650397
>I'm such a normie I don't want to fuck lizards
Please go back to plebbit where you belong

>>386650807

Divinity games are all connected but you don't need to be familiar with each one. It'll help to play the first but not necessary.

>>386650884
>wanting to fuck MALE lizards not females
No sweetie, YOU are the plebbit.

>>386650884
>fucking normies and their healthy social lives! why cant they be losers like me :(
Pathetic furfucker.

>>386650807
OS1 and 2 are set 1200 years apart, so this shouldn't be an issue

>>386651014
Nah, sexy lizard bois are GOAT
>>386651112
Kek

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>>386635741
please tell me the fucking obnoxious writing is better at least
i've never seen a character vomit a literal thesaurus to say so little so many times in a row as in D:OS

>>386637354

>Pillars of MUH BALANCE
>Pillars of NO FUN ALLOWED

Yeah, no. Also, Baldurs Gate 2 was always mediocre RPG and Infinity Engine was shitty.

>>386651243
And I hope they dont repeat themselves as often. I swear I heard the same stories from different NPCs at least 5 times.

>>386636063
>Elves don't even look like that in game

>>386651270
>hurf durf balance is bad
Fuck off, Sawyer is a god. Only took him three years to fix PoE.

>>386651014
It's not like you can tell the difference.

So, 1) will devs introduce their nerfing spree as soon as game gets released, like they did with DivOS?

2) Will I be able to actually mod-in custom characters instead of having to roll with pre-made ones? I dont care if I would eb able to customize their skills, their races, stats and classes will most likely remain pre-made as long as pre-made personalities and I hate carrying around party-members that thinks on their own.

3) Will it fix one of biggest problems with first DivOS aka lack of respawning enemies which was limiting experience points for non-active members forever and making any bad roll on better items crippling the players?

4) Can I make D&D 3.5 Cleric?

>>386651643

>Will I be able to actually mod-in custom characters instead of having to roll with pre-made ones?

yes

>>386651817

Good.

>>386643340
nice try obsidian shill. be less obvious next time.

>>386651643
>3) Will it fix one of biggest problems with first DivOS aka lack of respawning enemies which was limiting experience points for non-active members forever

What do you mean by this? Because when I switched to characters I never used they automatically got the same EXP, talents and ability points as my main characters.

>>386651643
>2
Origin characters are completely optional.

>3
I really hope this is bait.

>>386643654
>>386643717
>>386643778
We seem to have the same issues with D:OS.

I hated everything about the UI, the health bars on the turn queue are always wrong, sometimes the game seems to skip characters turns and you can't accurately see when a debuff is going to dissapear.

The fucking enviromental effects made no sense, sometimes I would throw a fireball on a cloud of posion and nothing happened but other times everything exploded as it should. There was no indication if you were going to step on something and it was hard to see where the enviromental effects were because the grass obscured them.

Sometimes I would be in the middle of a raging fire but take no damage and as soon as I try to walk out of it i'd be lit on fire.

I played in tactician and I hated how they made the game harded by spawning even more enemies while you were in the middle of a battle as if I was playing fucking Dragon Age 2 where enemies dropped from the sky in the middle of battles.

>>386643340
>dude alcohol and drugs xD
Opinion discarded. Grow up first child.

>>386645649
What the fuck is wrong with you ameritards? There's nothing wrong with nudity especially when it's a child on the beach or swimming pool. If you're a mental healthy individual you wouldn't sexualize that situation.

They're kids man, real kids. Get some help.

>>386637437
Honestly this. Before this thread hits 500 posts, I just wanted to say that I hated the first game.

>>386652528
Then you won't like the second game.

>>386652528
>>386637437
>I have to read all this text!? Why cant I have quest markers!? uuugghhhh

Back to Skyrim with you.

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>>386652528
>v screams casual all day
>have to actually read and solve problems
>WAHHH

>>386652091

It was like that for some time before devs went full retard and disabled that with one patch. Official forum was then full of "what teh hell devs" posts and "PRISE THE DEVS FOR THEIR GENIUS" and "CASUALS FINALLY HAVE TO FACE CONSEQUENCES "replies.

Maybe they changed that back with "enchanted edition" I dont know, I never felt the need to replay that game.

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No Orc romance option, no buy.

>>386652716
>people play a game for excellent combat system
>for every hour of combat you have to trudge through 6 hours of quests involving walking around town and talking to NPCs to gain quest XP so you don't get crushed by enemies by sheer stats
>some autist on 4chan says you're whining about quest markers when it has nothing to do with the problem at all and there are quest markers anyway
Even if you skip all the text and just follow quest journal instructions you're still wandering around town clicking on NPCs just to move the story along

>>386652159

Its not. Shops inventory was random and changing upon your level-ups. Loot was random and limited. Similar to M&M X, you could end up with shitty items because RNG didnt roll the ones you need.

>>386654170
If you hate talking to people, why play an RPG?

>>386654493

Maybe he likes fighting in RPGs more than talking?

You know, like enjoying Icewind Dale BECAUSE it was mostly about good old and fun dungeon exploring for loot and glory?

>>386637354
Garbage, from garbage island.

>>386654730
That sounds more like he wants Diablo.

>>386654493
>>>386654170 (You)
>If you hate talking to people, why play an RPG?
Because it has excellent combat, and what's more it's got excellent turn based co-op combat which is extremely rare

Maybe if I played it by myself I would have tried to stick with the story more, but if I'm playing co-op with a buddy and we both have limited time to play, we're going to rush through the dialogue to get to the actual fighting

>>386655046

Diablo dont come in turn-based variant.

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>>386649330
>>386649443
I don't know, a lot of the posts on /v/ back then felt like regulars players falseflagging and pretending to be overly retarded. The only example I still remember is that huge screencap of a thread of someone (pretending to be) unable to get through the tutorial dungeon with all of the "dumb casul lmao" replies attached, but they were definitely still there
Of course there were also legitimately retarded and dumb people participating in the threads though most of these appeared to disappear after the first 1-2 weeks, either because they just left the game or those who'd played and completed it grew tired of pretending to be dumb. After most of the retards had left the threads were comfy as fuck because people actually were playing and discussing the game, sharing builds, stories etc.
I hope we can get the same threads going once the game and the post-act 1 content is released, but given the change in video game(r) culture and /v/'s behaviour since mid 2014 I doubt that's going to be the case. I'm probably just going to stick to Larian's own forums

I want to torture swen vincke, I want to skin him alive, I want to pour bleach into his sjw veins, I want to crush his bones, I want to burn his skin
Die sjw cunt, die!

>>386655659
Okay.

>>386655659
You leave Swen alone. How can you hate a man that enthusiastic about game development?

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>>386638772

>>386635741
They will make an excellent game. It will neither save nor destroy anything.

>>386643340
So what you're saying is that if you have friends, you don't like them

>>386643340
>rpg games
>not hanging out with your friends while drinking, roleplaying and throwing dice
OS1 was closer to my actual tabletop experiences than any other video game RPG I've played honestly.

>>386637354
lets be honest here, poe was a subpar bg, ruined by balancing that shit as if it was a multiplayer game
dos is the best thing to happen to rpg since... fuck since a decade at least

>>386643340
kys retard

>>386660212
all dos did was ape ultima. there was a lot to like, but for people who want rpgs like baldur's gate, or planescape torment, then clearly pillars was the better game. and i can't wait for pillars 2.

>>386660536
To be honest I'd take Ultima over any Infinity Engine crap any day.

>>386661083
sad. why play ultima when you can just play a tabletop game with an actual DM?

>>386661163
I don't know. Why play video games at all?

>>386661163

You need to know anybody willing to DM a tabletop RPG and players to play with you. Not easy if you dont have friends and/or live in certain countries.

>>386661321
you could literally find a group to join on /tg/ or something

>>386661321
>Not easy if you dont have friends

Oh, one can have plenty of friend. They are great to go hiking with, sit down and watch football, or even collaborate on work. Playing imaginary fantasy adventures? That requires very specific kind of friends.

>>386661417

Except I dont live in US. Sure, 4chan can be great place to find people for various things but most users are from USA.

>>386661667
???

europeans use /tg/ too dude

>>386661970
It's only shitty DnD systems over there tho. Never seen some regional european or even a consistent DSA thread.

>>386661970

In my country video games are still considered nerdy and unwanted so you get the picture. And yeah, I live in Europe.

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>>386664331
this and I don't really mind it anyway because to me it's just a personal hobby I keep to myself

>>386635741

I wasn't aware they needed saving. But it looks like it'll be fun.

>>386635741
Will it have another goofy story that tries to be Terry Pratchett but fails?