Artifact Thread

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>dotards right now

>>386633128
>trailer

>Valve is making a card game
Oh that sounds pretty cool, I like card games, maybe I'll tr-
>based on DOTA
Pass.

>>386633128
Shill your mobashit elsewhere.

>>386633128
I don't give a fuck Shillshit. F2P games are like having a part-time job.

>>386633229
>>386633235
>valve
>advertising
I just wanted a thread to funpost in, fa mily. Might as well put what we know in the OP.

>Blizzard was late to the MOBA bandwagon and HOTS ended up being an abortion
>Valve is late to the CCG bandwagon and Artifact is going to end up being an abortion

Its like pottery.

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>instead of making real games everyone is making shitty card games and MOBAs
we need this meme to FUCKING STOP GOD DAMN I WANNA FUCKING DIE

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>>386633412
I don't know why companies do this

>WoW gets popular
>every company scrambles to make a shitty fast MMO to cash out and all of them bomb
>League and Dota gets popular
>every company scrambles to make a shitty fast MOBA to cash out and all of them bomb
>Hearthstone gets popular
>????

Like fuck just stop it doesn't work

>>386633638

profits generated for chasing trends with minimum effort

It's also probably the only thing their remaining talent is capable of doing.

>>386633128
Removing the context, it sounds pretty neat.
As an announcement from Valve it's fucking abysmal, especially the "2018" part.

Really, Valve? You don't think that people might be a bit weary of you being vague about release dates? I get it, you want to give each project as much time as it needs, but you can just KEEP QUIET UNTIL IT'S FUCKING DONE.

>haven't released a game in fucking years
>make a fucking hearthstone clone

holy fuck valve

What was Valve's last game release? Portal 2 if we don't count the demo for VR, right? It's been 5 years, and their new game after that time is a cashgrab for retarded dotafags.

Fuck this shit

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Who the absolute fuck was asking for a DOTA card game?

The fanbase sure didn't from how they reacted at the reveal, who is this even for?

You have literally broken my heart. I haven't been this disappointed in so long I can't even remember.
You took 30% of all the profits from Steam and made a card game. A motherfucking card game.

I can understand you not wanting to make sequels to your big games because you're looking to new type of games that you can explore and make better. But this is what you give me in return. A motherfucking card game.
I'm not even gonna bother hoping that this will be any better or more playable than Heartstone, I'm sure it'll be exactly as bad. Unplayable unless you sink hundreds of dollars into it.

I got into making games because of you people, this is like seeing your own dad get drunk at your birthday, beating up your mom and then taking a big giant steaming shit on your birthday cake.

I think you actually managed to kill my spirit, that's where it dies, in a youtube comment section for a shitty game nobody wants and that you're making because you somehow want even more money.
What the fuck are you even using all the money you make from Steam, Dota and CSGO for if this is what you release. I just don't even know what to say

>>386633412
This is valve tho, they don't make bad games. And based on the info we have so far it looks different enough than other ccg to attract new people

>>386633128
>Hmm people really like Dota 2....
>what if we made a card game thats slavishly similar to the real game?

What the fuck?

Why?

>>386633128
valve has a relatively small team for all of the things they do and they devote resources to chasing hearthstone
rest in piss

>>386633638
Usually it's investors. Sometimes it's shitty CEOs.

>>386633894
stealing this

>>386633885
There's no one to blame but the fags going on about Dota 2 lore.

>>386633936
They realized there's a lot of people that like dota but don't like playing dota

>>386633412
HotS ended up being pretty fun nowadays though, so I guess there's still some hope for Artifact, years after its release.

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>>386633919
>This is valve tho, they don't make bad games.
The only people more delusional than valve fans are blizzbots

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>>386633983
Dota 2 has lore?

>>386633894
Nice job copying Leddit comments

>>386633940
Valve doesn't have any investors, and the CEO is laid back and lets employees work on whatever they want.

A team of Valve employees got together and decided that this is what they wanted to work on. Think about that.

>>386633983
>but the fags going on about Dota 2 lore

Where do these people reside? I can't name a single person who's interested in dota 2 lore, and I've been playing with a lot of people.

>>386634041
About as much as Dark Souls, and look what happened there.

>>386633638
Wasn't DotA 2 called DoA on /v/ because it came well after LoL and Heroes of Newerth (ded game) ?

>>386633968
its melodramatic but it's kinda true, valve games got me into gaming, nearly everything they made has been gold, wether you liked that particular genre or not.

and here we are, just the other day I was cursing them for thrusting this crate-gaming ecosystem on us, and now this.. Do you know how excited I was when day9 said there was a new game announcment? I was hype as fuck, and in 10 seconds that was all crushed.
This is the shit we get? I don't care how fancy they make a card game, its still a fucking card game from probably the most profitable dev team on earth. Make a real fucking game you cunts.

Im glad I didn't buy a compendium this year

>>386634052
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923

It's in the /d2g/ copypasta man, come on.

>>386633734
I understand if they were all making a small profit but I find it so hard to believe even most of them do

Like unless they paid the programmers in dust and coins could they have made the money back on shit like Dawngate or Infinite Crisis.

>>386633997

those people don't like dota for the gameplay or the heroes, they like the celebrities and the scene

Except this is a perfectly viable financial move. Sorry that Valve has a new audience, move the fuck on. They clearly have.

>>386634086
>Dawngate
One of the only actual good Moba's to come out from that fad, and it died before even releasing.

Think someone's bringing it back, though how legal or successful it will be I don't know.

>>386633638
Have you even played Hand of the Gods?

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>>386634052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da_KSTeBBGk

>>386634069

No? It was praised because the HoN devs were going bat shit crazy with their game and it was about time somebody would take the communities of Garena, Battlenet and other dota 1 places and give them the same platform to play on.

>>386633919
Well, they fucked up TF2, Ricochet was a weird experiment long time ago, can't seem to bring any substantial updates to their games, and their income comes through loot boxes. Don't lie to yourself, Valve is on a decline

>>386634086
they don't, but if they succeeded it would be big money, and these companies are helmed by shameless hacks like the rest of the entertainment industry that do the same thing

>>386633894
It is true though

They're already richer than god, what the fuck do they want? More money? What's the fucking point?

What is the FUCKING POINT?

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>>386633128
>Not reviving the game with gachapon and skins to encourage gambling like with CSGO
You HAVE to like Valve or else everyone will shun you out of existence, it's how the world works

Why don't they just make TF3?

>>386634137
Fuck I miss Dawngate

It reminded me of League before it went retarded and stopped caring about lore at all

>>386634086
>unless they paid the programmers in dust and coins could they have made the money back on shit like Dawngate or Infinite Crisis
That's why they shut down. Turns out, aping League was not as profitable as investors hypothesized; most of the players are content playing what they were already playing, and there's no real impetus to switch to company X's start-up Moba.

>>386634172
I'm sure it will be a /good/ game. Sure it's not up my alley but whatever.

The thing im annoyed at is you have arguably one of the most talented studios on earth and they make rehashed-lore cash-grab shit, why? They could make any new IP straight out of their ass and sell a million copies the first day. But nah, card game.

>>386634051
So really, this is the situation.

Valve is essentially currently run by a bunch of shitty modern casual gamers who liked Hearthstone so much that they wanted to make a game like it.

They decided to do this instead of getting paid to do _LITERALLY_ ANYTHING else.

Just nuke it all. Nuke it all to hell.

Is this another Hearthstone ripoff?

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>>386634302
Here's your Artifact dev.

>>386634323
no

>>386634323
How about you read the OP

>>386634323
they are making it into a clash of clans, hearthstone hybrid.

>>386634323
yes

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>mfw when they announce Orange Box 2 in the finals

>>386634323
Because card game after 2014 means HS ripoff, it's clearly different dumbfuck.

Also not going to play this.

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>>386634323
No, it's a Smite Tactics ripoff.

>>386633128
card game, what? ahahahahaah

>>386633638
Once you have a solid idea what to do, making a game with a well established team isn't hard. It's why there are chinese clones within a year of a popular game's release.

You know at least card games make sense. After the initial development, managing a card game is insanely cheap if you think about it. Any relatively decent sized company can let 2-3 people design the new cards and then have artists make the art during down time in whatever they're developing. If the designers are too fucking retarded to script a card then they can get a programmer occasionally for help.

If you have some 2deep4u lore then I don't see why not. Almost every assfaggots has some deep lore that nobody really read.

What blows my mind is Blizzard has like 30-40 people on Hearthstone yet it runs quite poorly, but it's fine since every modern computer can easily shit out 60fps. Bugs lasts months before being fixed. Consistency is quite terrible. I can keep going on, but I'm just ranting now.

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>>386634302
>>386634410
https://twitter.com/mrmooear?lang=en

His twitter is a real fucking goldmine. At least the guy seems to genuinely love card games.

>>386634323
Who knows. Not much was said other than Day9 making it sound like it's a clash royale clone

>>386634279
i don't think valve are quite that good as devs but there is certainly no reason for them to be chasing the f2p cardgame crowd

>>386633128
I'm started to get the bad feeling that Riot bought and killed Rising Thunder to make their own TCG.

>>386634410

Literally the only game anyone will ever notice or care about there is Chalice, and that's because Double Fine made another kickstarter for it after failing to deliver Adventure.
Oh and it's full of SJW factoids to shill in marketing but no GAME.

Supposedly it's more of a board game than a card game.

Downvote the video boyz, this needs negative press

>>386634620
they already made one go at a ccg, so it's entirely possible
it's also possible they bought them just to quash the project

>>386633128
Why are card games so popular? Why do people RNG so much in a medium that doesn't require RNG to make varied and unpredictable? Vidya versions of tabletop and card games totally strip away the face to face social aspect, the scummy tricks, mind games, or even outright cheating you can do in a real environment. Everything is at the mercy of computerized RNG and that's bullshit.

>>386633638
at least there's only like 3 actual live digital card games, there's a retarded amount of MMOs and MOBAs. TCGs could be counted but it's kind of new territory for the popular game market.

>>386634735
>Why are card games so popular?

Everyone wants to be Hearthstone/Clash Royale. They're absolute money makers.

>>386634735
RNG makes up for lack of skill.

That's why casuals eat that shit up. Makes them feel good.

>>386634597
>teh penguin of d00m
>the spork of destiny
I'm glad I realized early on how cringey that shit was

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>>386634597
>>386634410
yo wtf is with this baby's head

Can Valve and Blizzard fuck already?

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>>386633128
>>386633894
>>386634410
>>386634597

>one guy at Valve just wants to make a chill card game
>get shat on by everyone who wants a AAA game as if its his fault that everybody else there doesn't do anything

Its 3D XCOM with cards for creatures, abilities and items , plays more like rts since there are barracks
Wont be free to play

Valve Starcraft clone when?

>>386634689
Would make sense, only way to keep the free-to-play philosophy of the original game is to keep away from card packs and the like.

But that begs the question; Why would anyone play this over Dota? Board games usually take around an hour anyways, so this is basically just Dota for someone with absolutely no mechanical skill or knowledge.

>>386634836
one of the best episodes of that show

>>386634735
>Why are card games so popular
Because they're so easy to make that even someone who never programmed before can make one through blueprints in Unreal 4

>>386634856
Are saying blizzard invented card games?

Nobody is being objective.

Everyone is throwing a tantrum.

The game'll probably be fun.

Have fun being mad, I guess.

>>386634486
If you don't think this was inspired by Hearthstone you're delusional

>>386634836

One guy who should be a jobless piece of shit yet got into fucking Valve for INFINITE MONEY AND JOB SECURITY

Reminder, literally everyone of note left Valve because they got bored doing absolutely fucking nothing.

>>386634836
Bad timing. It's not his fault. It's Valve's fault for not releasing something good in years.
If they announced, say, L4D3 first and then this card game, nobody would complain.

>>386634881
I'm going to make a hentai card game and sell if for too much money to see how many thirsty retards buy it

>>386634913
>digital card games
>fun

choose fucking one

I like to think that valve isn't made of retards and this shit will have something different from the other hearthstone clones that bombed in the last 2 years

>>386634836
I don't think anyone cares that it's a card game. What they care is
>Valve
>announcing a card game
>6 years after portal 2 Technically Hidden Path made CSGO and Valve took over development around release so it doesn't really count as 5 years

>TI7
>Dota2 fans that play Dota2
>announce card game
>not a hero yet
>not a change to the game
>not even a hat
>A card game

You can see why people are salty. If Valve had released let's say 2 games since Portal 2 then they wouldn't have such a backlash.

>>386634868

Because it's literally 1 versus 1.
You control all 5 heroes at once without the micromanagement.
You still need a fuck ton of knowledge like matchups and deck building etc. but you don't get any absolute retards throwing your game.

>>386634913
stop reddit spacing. you are wasting my valuable vertical resolution.

I miss the Valve Software that used to put a premium on telling stories and crafting thrilling first person experiences. What happened to them? It's like they just turned into bean counters.

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>>386634836
>yfw gabe sees all the negative reaction to artifact and decides to can the guy
>dreams crushed, he ends up working at some dead-end game studio producing licenced garbage, knowing he was so close to accomplishing his dream
>all because people memed about HL3 not being released instead

>>386634951
And honestly if you were able to make something like a kancolle version then you'd be racking in the money from dumb japs. Best part is since they're so used to getting fucked in the ass from gacha games, you can have cards rarities at .1% chance.

>dota 2 lore

pls no.
the comics were terrible enough

>>386634948
You sound mad jealous. Besides, only a NEET would augur another person to be jobless.

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>>386633983
>>386634041
>>386634052

Dota 2 does have some interesting backstory and lore to it but if Valve really wanted to expand on it I would have preferred more fucking comics, or short films or singleplayer campaigns, not a fucking card game holy shit.

>>386635007
They'll probably make the heroes you control customizable and make all the cards available from the start (unlikely) or easily obtainable (like the non-stock weapons in tf2)

>>386633128
>sounds kind of interesting
>if it's on mobile I'll probably play it
>probably has some nice potential for depth and choices with the different heroes and item builds
fun
Rubik better get to rip cards out of their hand

>>386635069
Valve hasn't released a game since Portal 2. That was six years ago.

When a company that hasn't released a game for six years and then decide to announce a fucking hearthstone clone you can imagine why people are disappointed.

>>386634951
a game with cute characters will sell better than actual nudity, but good luck senpai

>>386634279
Didnt all the good devs leave?

Wow, now there's two Valve games with Dota in the title that I'm sure to never touch as long as I live, what a great announcement

>>386635105

>Don't bully the guy who got nothing but free money for absolute shovelware and patting himself on the back through social media
>You must really have problems to ever say naughty things

Fuck off twat, they could stay at Double Fine if they were so half decent.

Honestly, if it was a TF2 themed card game, I'd be ok. Maybe I'd just be a tad upset for not being the Pyro update.
I just hate Dota.

>>386633128
>CARD GAMES ON LANES
What the fucking hell, at least you can't whine some fucker kept feeding if you lost this mobaccg.

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>>386635061

>>386635192
just blame the rng my man
or p2w if they go that route

>>386634836

Valve could do with a mass layoff desu.

Fucking company is stagnant in an already vapid industry.

>>386633128
So this was the L4D3 they were working on...

>>386633128
Sounds like PSO episode 3

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>>386635151
>all valve employees are all in one room, in one team working on one game at a time

k

Seriously though, you're all children. Jumping on another hate bandwagon. For the past 5 years, /v/alve threads have been nothing but 'HL3 WILL NEVER COME OUT! THEY'RE A BUSINESS! ITS OKAY THOUGH, THEY PUT EFFORT INTO THEIR OTHER WORKS AND IT COULD NEVER LIVE UP TO THE HYPE! EVERYTHING IS OKAY!'

Now, all of a sudden you all want HL3 and are shocked this is coming out?

Get fucking real. You're literal children throwing a tantrum.

The game could be revolutionary, or eliminate RNG completely from the TCG genre. You don't fucking KNOW. Yet, 'muh disappointment'

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>no Portal 3
>no fucking Left for Dead 3
>no Half Life 3
>NO FUCKING GAME FOR THE VIVE
>LE CARD GAME

fuck PCloser gaming literally only Sony does something for gaming

>>386634945
>Hearthstone invented the trading card genre
children please, i remember buying fucking Bionicle trading cards and Hotwheels trading cards as a kid, this is nothing new

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>>386634868
>Why would anyone play this over Dota?
For the most part, almost nobody.

Obviously we can't say much. All we have to go off it is Day9 talking about it and that was it which to me sounds more like Clash Royale with more interactivity.

>>386635303
>Implying ANYONE at valve works on ANYTHING

That's why all of their notable talent has left and gone to work elsewhere, right?

Kill yourself, drone.

>>386635318
>>Hearthstone invented the trading card genre
Hello strawman

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>>386634230
Because that would make too much sense and be too perfect.

I mean, it wouldn't even take that much effort. 90% of the work in making a perfectly enjoyable Team Fortress game has been done for them already during the late 1990s and early 2000s.

All they have to do is replicate TF2 in Source 2 to be more optimized and good looking, do a new artstyle, tweak class balance a bit, and bam, they're done.

But they won't because Valve are fucking niggers.

>>386633128
Might be fun

>>386635318
Hearthstone poisoned the digital card game well like World of Warcraft poisoned the MMO well you fucking retarded cunt.

>>386635357
I don't know what you are trying to imply then with that statement that a trading card game is somehow inspired by Hearthstone

>>386634945
You realize Hearthstone is just MTG for children?

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>a genre where you can be better than 90% of playerbase by just spending money
defend this cardtards

>>386635349
>writers
>notable talents

>>386635349
>I make this claim based on my own opinion

wow, epic. you convinced me

Do we know any details about the game? or are people just losing their shit because they think Half Life 3 is still a possibility and or they themselves have sunk thousands of hours and dollars into Hearthstone, and saw how that panned out for them?

>>386635453
So you know actually talented employees at Valve huh?

Name them.

>>386634410
Oh fuck they hired a faggot involved in MASSIC CHALICE

>>386635465
>or are people just losing their shit because
yes
every time yes
people are freaking out over imagined details for the game and how it should have been anything else just like every other game

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>>386635303

>trend-chasing card game spinoff
>revolutionary

I'm struggling to feign interest, but stay optimistic, anon.

>>386635446
Poor people make everything worse.
Just look at /vip/, it's literally the best board in this site. I got vidya conversation there I've never seen here on /v/.
Why? Because rich people have actually a brain, unlike poorlets.

>>386635303
I rather have L4D3 or Portal 3 than fucking half life 3 or HL2 episode 3. The whole HL2 game is fucking garbage compared to the first one.

>>386635579
this will be the game that makes steam marketplace card trading the best game of 2018

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>>386635303
>Its the year of our lord 2017 and pcbros are still a thing
This ain't the early 2000s time traveler

>>386635287

They really are. Steam went from a disruptive underdog we all cheered for several years ago to a fat bloated pig guarding its treasure from every prying eye. Valve is the old guard now, and what was one a fire in their bellies to push the envelope and create new experiences with games seems to have turned into just a desire to maintain. Keep the money flowing and watch the gates.

>>386635625
This
Make sure to get into it early to get those sweet sweet exclusive skins that sell for 400 bucks down the line

>>386635465
twitchtv/videos/165396528?t=8h43m20s

Literally all that's known.

>>386635643
valvedr0nes

>>386635579
If it is a TCG instead of CCG it will already be a mile ahead of other games on the market for me.

>>386635651
cool story

>>386635531

marc laidlaw
erik wolpaw
chet faliszek

oh shit wait

>like card games
>like dota
>a dota card game with the same mechanics as the actual game sounds fun
>every thread up until gameplay and beyond will be nothing but shitposting, complaints about HS and people who wanted HL3
I just want to play a fun card game with dota heroes
Dota and valve have the audience and reputation to build up something that could knock over shitstone so I'm all for this

>>386635686
>twitchtv/videos/165396528?t=8h43m20s
sounds interesting desu

>>386634094
it's true they like the celebrities and the scene, but dont underestimate how much people like the characters

>>386635775

enjoy your microtransaction-riddled bejeweled game scrub

>>386635303
You know, I'd wait for more info if it was some other company, but it's Valve. Valve do quality things (Steam partly excluded), but they do them S L O W L Y. I think that partly people are raging because we are looking at months of silence before something other than teaser surfaces.
They won't tell us what this game is about, they won't confirm three tables and 5 heroes, they will just sit there and let people boil in their own juices. People are fucking tired of that shit, especially since Valve said so fucking much about muh community, buy time and time again manage to miscommunicate everything.
Finally, vidya is over-fucking-saturated by multiplayer and "multiplayer" games. I agree that fighting Johns and Janes online is fun, but it's not ONLY fucking fun there can be, and Valve are one of devs people believe are still able to make a good singleplayer game.

>>386635605
>vidya discussion
get a fucking life

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Glad I got out of PC gaming.

>>386635560
>>386634410
>>386634679
Not to mention Massive Chalice was a rip-off of an old PSX game

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>>386635624
Whatever, replace HL3 with L4D3/Portal 3 if you like, my point is the same.

L4D3, Portal 3 and HL3 are obviously all in development as we speak. They'll more than likely be released in a package deal, not unlike the orange box. Valve is like that.

For some reason, the internet believes ALL of Valve is working SOLELY on this card game and are basing their opinions on that 'fact'. Look at these dislike numbers, man. Valve has never shown something about a new game unless it was tangible. Did everyone forget this? Has everyone lost their collective shit? Where's my medicine

>>386635579
Don't feign interest if you're not actually interested, m8. I like HS, I like MTG, I like Gwent, I like Valve, I'm interested in this game, will probably play it and enjoy it. I know there are other teams at valve working on the orange box 2, so it's not a concern. I bet 2018 will be a big year for valve. Artifact, HTC Vive 2 (cheaper, more readily available 2nd generation VR sets? Yes please!), etc.

>>386635845
Have fun in la-la imaginary land

>>386635892
ur on 4chan dont have a meltdown

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The ultimate jew game.
>Sell cards
>Sell emojis
>sell loot crates
>sell cosmetics
>take a cut of each sale on marketplace
Buy my shit goyim

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>spend a lot of time and money on anew engine
>make a card game

>>386635948
>They're all being made

wanna do me a favor and compare the release dates between L4D and L4D2 and the current date

>>386636032
don't worry the l4d3 they've been working on forever and that will never come out is taking advantage of source 2

>>386636060
>2008
>2009
>2017

there's not going to be a L4D3.

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>>386635948
>L4D3, Portal 3 and HL3 are obviously all in development as we speak

'lol'.
Doesn't mean anything when they just scrap everything and start again because they have unlimited time and money.

I'm amazed that more people don't draw parallels between Valve and Star Citizen. Unlimited money + no pressure to actually put anything out the door = no game

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>>386635805
>build up something that could knock over shitstone
Enough with this WoW-killer 2.0 shit. I've heard "this card game will f*cking pwn HS into obscurity" for half a douzen card games already. Duelist, Shadowverse, Gwent, Eternal even fucking Faeria.

I will play this, as I play every card game in existence because I am a sucker for them, and hell even best case scenario it will be okay enough to have its own unique niche for a while like the Runescape card game but even with HS bleeding like it is I have had enough with this wow-killer rhetoric to push new digital CCGs.

>>386635872
>I can wait for more info
>Waiting for more info is making me angry

????

>>386634836
that genuinely hit me anon, good point.

But i think what the others said holds true, it's just poor timing, I was talking to my housemate about it just now and we both also came to the conclusion its just bad timing, its not that the game will be shit or we dont want it, but valve hasnt done anything good in so long, and we get an announcment of some niche ass cash-grab shit

>>386636123
valve is wasting its own money
star citizen is wasting money they got in advance for sales of the game

It fucking happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632kyLysP6c

>>386636086
Source 2 is a facade to inspire hope that should have been abandoned long ago. Fuck this card game. All writers have left valve. All they make are trinkets for constant revenue.

>>386636060
Maybe you're too young to remember, but people flipped their collective shit, not unlike they're doing now, about L4D2 when it got released. People were so furious they would release L4D2 so soon after the first one. Talking about how people loved the first cast more and the setting. Then Valve ported the first into the second with all the updated features. Because they're the best game dev company out there. Shut them up real quick. Went on to be a top seller and GOTY.

>>386636123
Oh, I didn't realize you were a valve employee, my bad. Please, give us more insights about all the projects being developed and worked on right now. I wasn't aware anything was scrapped!

>>386636134
I get his point.
Releasing a teaser for a fucking card game is fucking stupid.
They should've released a beta or something playable so we can see how it works. It might turn out to be good after all.

>>386636229
Maybe YOU'RE too young to remember but wasn;t the only "proof" of L4D3 being "worked on" was some fucking concept art stuck to a fucking wall?

>>386636190
Honestly, a Ricochet 2 announcement would have pissed off less people.

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>>386635927
>actually get to play amazing games thanks to Sony or Nintendo
>Valve does nothing for you

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>>386634797

>>386636127
whatever chance it has at 'killing' HS won't be because of mechanics or quality
other games never had a chance because they weren't popular
Valve will shill their own game at every event and tournament while plastering it all over the store page for every consumer to see
that's what will 'kill' hearthstone
HS is only where it is because it was first and because it's WoW

>>386634041
the character lore is pretty interesting to me but fucking hell they should expand the world/lore more in a way

like, i dunno, comic series? campaign? single player? anything? jesus christ

>>386636385
>valve
>Expending effort

ayyyyyy lmao

>>386635948
>all this optimism
I truly envy you

>>386634410
>double fine
at least he's familiar with the valve release schedule from his previous job
the release schedule of abso-fucking-lutely never

>>386636441
shouldn't mistake delusion for optimism

>>386636445
he literally can't wait for everyone to play it because he'll die before it comes out

>>386636280
This, I'd play a Ricochet 2 if it got the same treatment as TF2 got in the transtition from quake/classic

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>>386636229
>I wasn't aware anything was scrapped!

yeah I'm sure all the 'leaks' over the years proves that it's all a bunch of masterpieces that are each continuously developed for years and years even with all the key employees leaving.

It's not like Valve is now just a bunch of gamingdads fucking around with pet projects with zero pressure to actually push anything out of the door

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>half-life 3 died for this

>>386636642
when you finally get a last hit card in your deck, but your opponent plays his deny trap and you throw your computer out of your window remember the words, "c'mon, mr. freeman, the cake was a lie, you monster"

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jesus christ what the fuck went wrong at valve


We aren't even asking for HL3 anymore

where is l4d3, it was leaked like 3 years ago

>>386633128
>"full game" genre is about a slice of a popular game
That MOBA trend (wow it's almost a decade kiddies become "men" in this shit) and playing cards in a video game...
Would choose real life instead.

i still remember the days valve made actual games and not online competitive shit for fucking normals

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>>386636269
There have been plenty of "leaks" showing many folders and files labelled l4d3 in a lot of the VR tech demos valve has released. As well as concept art in the office, images of L4D3 levels in source2, etc. Just fucking google it

But, good job using my own words against me! You almost got me!

>>386636261
I can agree to that, more info would have been nice. But this is Valve. I imagine they'll have something more substantial to show as a response to this outrage in the next few weeks.

>>386636441
It's not optimism, It's being objective. I'm not saying Valve is amazing and they handled this perfectly. I'm saying people are jumping on a hateboner bandwagon, AGAIN.

>>386636468
hurrr durrr

>>386636589
>latest VR tech demo from valve has HL3 references in its RTTI

pic related, texture of a character from HL3, leaked and shown to the public less than a year ago. It's in development, along with L4D3 which also has many strings in the VR demo.

But please, keep posting more hot opinions.

>>386635408
you can't trade cards in hearth

>>386633213
>card game
pass

>>386636942
>L4D3 is a VR game

oh look

the monkey paw strikes again

>>386636942
no you aren't being objective you are being delusional
this is why people make fun of people that talk about objectivity on the internet

>>386637050
get with the times gramps

>>386637050
I didn't say it was a VR game, I said there were various files and folders referencing both L4D3 and HL3 in the VR demo.

Valve does this a lot, to show what they're working on. Are you people seriously unaware of this?

>>386637052
You don't know the definition of the words you're typing. Please stop while you're ahead.

>>386637156
>I didn't say it was a VR game
>but the only proof of it being "developed" is related entirely to VR

hmmmmMMMMMMMMM

>>386637156
no, that's literally your problem

>>386633128
>card game
$$$$$
CSGO skins aren't enough anymore, I guess.

https://twitter.com/MrMooEar/status/822919422025211904

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>>386636845
i can easily see this happening

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>>386637189
As opposed to being my problem figuratively? What are you even trying to say?

>>386637181
I don't know how many times I have to put leaks in quotation marks before you get it, but Valve always puts future content and development projects in public view. Like one of their artists 'accidentally' revealing HL3 concept art some years ago. Or leaving files or folders in their engine SDK/tech demos. Or letting people take pictures of various concept arts, computer monitors and files when they give people tours of their offices.

You think Valve would just let them post unreleased content like that without permission? Of fucking course not. They wouldn't even let them take pictures to begin with if that was their concern.

But go ahead, keep trying to twist what I say in some vain attempt to bolster your unfettered rage so you can throw a tantrum just like all the cool kids on the internet youtubes!

>>386637347
>no pussy hats
amateurs

when will they begin the beta testing

>>386637423
>on the internet youtubes!
when you are an awkward middle aged valve drone and you try too hard

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HEY ANONS

I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU

GUESS WHO IS FUCKING ZOE BACKSTAGE

HAHAHAHAQHAHA ANTIFACT AMIRIGHT

https://archive.is/tThGS

https://archive.is/tThGS

https://archive.is/tThGS

https://archive.is/tThGS

>>386637480
Codes are already out. Keep up with the news newfag.

>>386637559
wow nice argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions

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>>386637423
>>386637156
>>386636942

All of this is in line with what we know about Valve working methods from people who have quit. i.e. people work on something up to a point, get bored and then wonder off to something else.

Leaks just show that something was worked on at some point, not that it's ever actually coming out.

People have been using this shit to say these games are 'just around the corner' for a fucking decade now

>>386637617
Who are these people? Why this thread?

>>386637663
half life 3, left 4 dead 3, and portal 3 will all come out together as a sixty dollar package
this is an objective fact

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oh'vey
SHUT IT DOWN
>legobutts
https://archive.is/DpIAK

>>386637663
>what we know
You don't know that. I don't know what you think you know that. But that's an assumption, not knowledge.

>Leaks just show that something was worked on at some point
These leaks aren't even a year old.

>People have been using this shit to say these games are 'just around the corner' for a fucking decade now
I never said that. In fact, I said the contrary.

>>386633128
JUST

>>386637678
people at double fine and giantbomb are friends, which is why giantbomb always had them on to shill their trash
it's not surprising that he would be there
the trash humanoid in the middle probably excited the goober, but that turd is only relevant due its socializing in that scene so it's not surprising it's floating there either

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so what does the antifact dev gain from 'ze' legobutts darpa friend?

https://archive.is/8oPRc

>>386637957
they're called friends you autistic mongoloid
they're literally garbage from the same progressive west coast scene
one of my friends worked at raven at the same time as that guy
maybe you can dig him up and work him into a bill gates conspiracy theory

so, this is just again one of those indie clique dev's, with their fucked up agenda.
I am not suprised to see old faces like legobutts and quinn again.

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This is the game that Valve game designers (economists and psychologists) have agreed will rake in the money. I fully expect it to. Most people bitching now will probably play it because their friends will be playing it, they will get hooked into the game, and the market.

>>386638057
kys zoe

>>386637841
>These leaks aren't even a year old.

And does that prove that the leaked material is only a year old?

Or is it the same thing that was revealed in the massive interview with the ex-employee? That lots of different people have taken a stab at making things like HL3 and L4D3 over the years and that scattered bits of those things are everywhere, which people shouldn't take as proof that something is actively being developed when they find these things

>>386638153
>probably play it
i don't play shitty casual trash build by agenda driven neo-feminist who are corrupt as fuck. Asshole.

>>386638213
take your fucking meds you schizophrenic sped

>>386638153
these games are mad for phone when you're waiting in your car to pick up kids from school, yet you need a fucking wifi connection to play most of them

>indie sjw trash
>made by valve
>all the fuckfaces, zoe and what not
>gets shilled hard on /v/

retard thread.

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I warned you faggots a long time ago. Valve no longer makes games. They make money; through the seasonal sales, the hats, the crates, whatever. They couldn't give two shits about the games you played however many years ago because they can make so much more MONEY through the crap I mentioned and now, they have a terrific opportunity to do a quick cash-grab, piggybacking off the success of Hearthstone, just like every other card game has tried to do.

Keep giving your money to Gabe. Keep buying shit off the sales instead of pirating every single fucking game you can get your hands on. Keep sucking that cock.

It's all you deserve.

>pcmasterrace.bat

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>>386637772
>all the evidence points to Valve being a company that can no longer engage in proper AAA development
>pcbros rationalize this by thinking they're actually simultaneously making 3 AAA games with a perfect synchronized release date

>>386638153

>Because their friends will be playing it
It's a 2 player game m8, what difference will gormless retards you might associate with playing it will do?
At best it'll be picked up to play when your friends are not online to stack and play other games.

>>386638265
fuck off

>>386638326
Arizona is a shithole you dikk

>>386633128
people with taste play MtG

>>386638280
Exactly. And no doubt this card game will utilize steam's phone app finally.

>game announced
>people don't like game for reasons
>not only do they not like game but game is ABSOLUTE TRASH
>IT'S LIBERAL PROPAGANDA
>THE DEVS ARE KEKS AND SO ARE YOU
every time

>sjw game
>shill thread

oh, one of these days again.

>>386638490
both accurate and precise

>>386638441
doubt it
I bet this shit will be made for PC and will have a delayed mobile release the requires Wifi.

I just watch youtube or play emulators because every mobile game is either shit or requires a ton of space

>>386637347
>TRUST WOMEN!

>>386638490
>>386638517
this shit is why you idiots were banned

>>386638153
>will probably play it
>less than 200k views on youtube

>>386638339
>2 player game

So I don't have to depend on 4 other russian amputees on my team? Already better then DOTA itself.

>Valve push for VR
>Don't actually make a killer app for their headset and instead do tech demos which are what 99% of VR """"""""""Games"""""""""" are anyways

Nice meme

guess the gaming journos will absolutley love this game. already goty.

>>386638587
>you
and who are you? libshit

the 8gaggers are back!
Don't you have to boycott every game in existence because there is at least a single black character and/or woman?

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>post yfw you did not fund this shit by buying cosmetic shit from tf2,csgo and dota

>>386638706
unless you don't buy games on steam at all it all goes into the same pile

>hey valve, why don't you make games anymore?
>because I fucking love money

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>PC """gaming"""

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>>386634839
bullshit, they'll have a tiny little playing space that fits onto one screen like all the other tactics cardgames out there

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>>386638743
Last thing i bought from steam was tf2 back in 2010 and it was good while it lasted and became f2p cancer, haven't bought a single game since then since i dont support their jewish practices on almost everything they touch.

>>386638987
You've funded this game.

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>>386634836
at the moment, there's no real telling if it's just one guy wanting to make something or a direct order from le higher ups based flatland work ethic AMIRITE

>>386639136
Im sure they spent those $10 in developing a shitty cosmetic for dota anyways

>>386638987
I don't believe you.

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>>386633128
>read comments
>everyone gigamad

Why though? Its Valve releasing a game. Celebrate.

>>386639467

Only releasing a game apparently because they hired some liberal faggot from Double Fine
And to reveal a game that is DIRECT COMPETITION to the game EVERYONE IS IN ATTENDANCE FOR

This is justifiable mad considering Valve were just too fucking lazy to attend E3 or make their own conference, they wanted to royally piss everyone off because thinking about what they're doing is too much effort, just sit there and have money rain on you for literally nothing.

>>386639467
ITS NOT MUH HALF LIFE

THE VERY SAME PEOPLE DEVELOPING A CARD GAME COULD BE MAKING PORTAL 3 OR HALF LIFE 3 INSTEAD

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>mfw all those comments on youtube

Maybe people are starting to wake up now.

>Update your shitty engine and call it source 2
>Its a slightly improve of source
>Dont use it for any other game than dota

Man feels great when you dont support valve and all valve fans get cucked.

>>386639467
nobody ordered another casual game

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>>386637957
Being a father and still typing out ":D".

>>386635151
They released DOTA2:2 and CSGO2.
People miss that. Both those games were moved to a new engine, effectively remade.

Did Valve even make any games for the Vive?

valve should make an rts to compete with broodwar

>>386639698

Compared to Source, it's much more fragmented. All of it's features are in such a mess, they've officially given up on packaging it into a proper SDK and licensing it.
Nothing's too lazy for Valve! Also this is why we're not seeing any kind of Source 2 mods or ports in the year (two+?) it's been out for Dota.

>>386639672
Nah people are gonna soon forget this and going back to sucking gabe's fat Jewish cock and still be >"le pc master race! xD"

>>386639467
>Celebrate a card game
Go fuck yourself.

>It's another motherfucking multiplayer f2p dogshit based on ASSFAGGOTS

"PC gaming" is a fucking joke.

>>386639805
Source 2 would not bring in the money, that's why its work stopped.

>>386639743
http://store.steampowered.com/app/450390/The_Lab/

>>386639876
at least we're getting broodwar hd in under a week

>>386633128
I FUCKING LOVE IT. CAN NOT WAIT.

>>386633128
>You control 5 heroes, just like DotA
Are you retarded, you control 1 hero in Dota.

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>>386637617
>>386637796
>>386637868
>>386637957
>>386638112
>>386638161
>>386638213
>>386638290
>>386638347
>>386638517
>>386638672

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>Somehow people are going to forget valve after this just like what happened with paid mods

>>386633885
I was!

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Who the fuck wanted a card game about Dota 2? Who is the target audience for this shit? Is this what Valve development teams are up to?

>let's make a game that's JUST like Dota 2 except in card form
Tell me, why would ASSFAGGOT players not just continue playing Dota 2?

>>386634058
Dark Souls puts a frankly impressive amount of effort into building a world on top of their gameplay-focused action RPG even if most of the solid definitive background is in descriptions and junk.

DOTA has like one map, a few shitty comics?

From the stream:
>There are three game boards that represent the lanes
>You control 5 heroes, just like DotA
>You can equip item cards on to the Heroes that you buy with gold
>There are creeps that spawn every turn
>You can play creature cards
>Some cards are cast on the lane and have persistent effects on that lane
>Each Hero has abilities like their DotA counterparts ("You can cast track on a Hero as Bounty Hunter and get extra Gold")

So its a 1v1 turn based DOTA2 game, not Hearthstone with DOTA2 pictures on cards.

>>386640019
there's nothing to be outraged about yet except for muh sjw boogeyman

unless the very concept of a game that uses cards in some capacity makes your blood boil

>>386640053
after ten years of playing dota for 12+ hours a day, their hands are so ruined that they need a turn-based substitute

>>386640147
>>>>>>>>>hands ruined
>>>>>>>>>dota 2
>>>>>>>>>10 apm required for pro level play
what???????? working a fucking day job requires more execution than dota 2

>>386634597

Brad Muir is a genuinely great guy I'm not gonna hear nothing bad posted about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuQw-dylVJQ

>>386640065
But anon, all the items in dota have lore descriptions too, even cosmetic items

>>386640053
So people can stop bitching about their teammates I guess. I've heard from multiple sources that people are happier when they quit playing/uninstall DotA.

>>386640142
>there's nothing to be outraged about yet except for muh sjw boogeyman

except most valve-d-r-o-n-e-s wanted valve to give a fuck about TF and CSGO, and they give them this.

>>386635303
I'd rather have almost anything than a DOTA card game because it's everything I don't want out of Valve.

It doesn't stand for innovation, the narrative is nonexistent because it's a card game, it doesn't do anything neat with stuff V I D E O G A M E S can do because it's a card game, and it's probably the least interesting IP universe-wise- at least to me. It feels like a blatant "hey we need more money to develop VR headsets and/or fuck around all day toying with ideas but ultimately never actually getting anything done, let's do a card game because those are relatively easy to push out in comparison to basically every other genre and they've been mad popular lately." A cash grab.

>>386640304
They're different teams with different skillsets; having Brad Muir work on the Pyro update won't make it come out any faster.

>>386640359
>it doesn't do anything neat with stuff V I D E O G A M E S can do because it's a card game
hey, card games can be good, you just have to make a real game attached to the cards instead of using 1993 tabletop mechanics in your computer game which of course valve won't do

>>386640516
then why have them be cards in the first place?

>>386640359
The fact that they're even doing a cash grab astounds me, I read they made millions off of PUBG, a game they had no hand in other than hosting on their store.

>>386640408
Nigger they are a billion dollar company and the have like 2 people working on tf2, like 5 in csgo, and 10 in dota 2.

valve is dead

>Valve's new game is a TCG
this company is dead to me

>>386640573
your comment is trash

>>386640359
>I made up all this shit in my brain with no evidence before the game is released. what I say and think is fact and you're all a bunch of dumb doo-doo heads if you don't believe me!

Why are you even here

>>386640516
>which of course valve won't do
See >>386640067

>3 lanes
>hero characters roaming them
>hero characters have abilities that aren't cards
>you kill enemies with your heroes to gain gold to buy cards

Just like Hearthstone.

valve died before half of /v/ was born

>>386640619
Valve didn't die, they are still like they always were, a Microsoft millionaire's private company where he hires people he likes talking to and tells them to work on whatever they want, however much they want. Basically ensuring his friends are available for him when he wants to chill, rather than be tired from work or have to travel.

Does Valve have a Steam Dev Days planned for 2017? I can't find a date for it.

>>386640601
We already know what the fucking game is like, they gave us details literally immediately after the announcement.

It's supposed to play like DOTA in card game form complete with lanes and creeps. Some people will find that fucking thrilling and different, I definitely don't.

>>386640573
i agree

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truly the hero vidya deserves

>>386640679
They talked about announcing 3 VR titles at the next Steam Dev days, so yeah. I'd imagine it'd be some time between early october and mid november.

>>386633128
>2018
you mean 2028 right?

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>>386640551
because deckbuilding (deck, squad, RTS army, whatever) is fun and so is using and encountering all the varied card effects (same reason dota has 100+ heroes)
>>386640612
oh my sweet summer child, you think hearthstone is the only card game model? I bet they're going to have super-abstracted representations of lanes and all that, if it's anything like say, Xcom I'll eat my hat

>>386640591
they are literally the PIXAR of video games now

they went from doing original IP to by the numbers bullshit sequels and now, a clear business move based of the success of gwent, and hearthstone

you shills keep believing their "flat organization structure" and "It's a community of respect and the best idea wins no matter who it comes from, whether they've been at Valve for a year or founded Valve." but the games keep saying otherwise.

Why are there NO creative games coming from a company with allegedly the best talent in the business and almost unlimited financial resources?

>>386633840
Better question is: What was the last non-sequel non-modbased Valve release?
The answer is Portal 1. 10 years ago.
And it's not even their game they just picked up student project

>>386640767
That's weird, usually companies announce dates for this stuff at least several months in advance. We're almost in September already.

>>386640683
No, fucking day9 said that. About an early version of the game, before it was even announced.

>>386640802
Better buy sauce for that hat, because the Elder Scrolls game already has 2 lanes, and I am 99% sure this DOTA2 card game will have heroes that can die, respawn, move from lane to lane, use gold instead of some mana system, etc.
And if you can't see how killing enemies as a resource is fundamentally different than drawing mana cards as a resource or just getting 1 per turn, you are the summer child and not used to TCGs.

>>386640851
>Guy talks about game details right around announcement
>IGNORE ALL OF THAT

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>>386640826
but pixar has shareholders to appease

what's valve's excuse? they can choose to make any game they want and even if it's a huge failure it won't make a dent in their piles of steam money

>>386640840
1. Portal is based on an older game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narbacular_Drop
2. It doesn't matter, gamedev is iterative by design. All shooters are derived from Doom.
3. Kill yourself.

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>>386640736
>>386640736
hero huh

>>386640926
>Games never change
>Mechanics are never removed, altered or added
>The game day9 played will be the same exact game in ten years from now

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up you mouth breathing fuck face.

>>386640851
he was clearly hired by valve for the tournament specifically to attract hearthstone players, and said he was allowed to speak freely about the game during the announcement

the things he said are gonna carry a lot of weight

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>>386634041
>>386634052
As someone who loves Dota for it's lore and the comics, I currently have zero interest in a "card game" of any sort

>>386640840
The Lab, 2016
Destinations, 2016

>these dont count cause they're vr
Yeah, okay. Should have added that to your list of "doesn't count".

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>>386640767
they can stuff their vr meme games up their crusty fat buttholes

>>386641058
Have you played any of the Tug of War custom maps on Warcraft III?
This looks to be very inspired by them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_GcXaXsmOU

What did the audience mean by this?

>>386633128
>Reveal Dota Card Game at The International, the largest Dota tournament in the world that is attended almost exclusively by Dota enthusiasts
>Crowd lets out a collective groan of disappointment as the words "The Dota Card Game" appear on-screen

I have a feeling that the game won't bomb, simply because of the Valve brand and because they're marketing geniuses (It'll probably be free to play, so if the Chinese and South Americans will play it even if no one else does), but who actually wants this? Who is the target audience? Clearly Dotards don't want it, so why did Valve decide to make this other than to literally print money by selling digital cards on the Steam marketplace? It's an obvious cash-grab and Valve should be ashamed

all the good creative people left, prepare for overwatch tier writing and lore

>>386635069
if Gabe gave a shit what players did or didnt like Valve would be a very different company

>>386634069
>Came after LoL
I'm so fucking angry right now.
League copied dota, dota 2 was being beta tested when league came out

>>386641147
>(It'll probably be free to play, so if the Chinese and South Americans will play it even if no one else does)

There is a video called "russian trailer" on the channel. Even though there was zero speaking and no text bar the name and URL.
So clearly they want russian players, who if you check Hearthstone streams right now are very big there.

>>386633128

>>>>LOGO IS JUST A FUCKING UPSIDE DOWN TRIANGLE

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>>386640220
They very embodiment of a numale. Enjoy your card game tho

>>386641147
I just don't get this argument, it keeps getting parroted by you fucking retards. It's non-sense, really.

WOW GWENT? WHO IS ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN GWENT? WITCHER FANS HAVE WITCHER 3 TO PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW HEARTHSTONE? WHO IS ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN A SHITTY WARCRAFT GAME? THEY HAVE WORLD OF WARCRAFT TO PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE DISLIKE FUK U VALVE REEEEEEEE

Such a waste of my fucking time.

Game'll be 10/10, watch.

>>386640995
Unless literally the entire game is scrapped and we get artifact 9 years from now/not at all, that's pretty much a fucking given

>>386641121
i think they want their dire tide

>>386633213
>Valve
pass

>>386635069
>>dreams crushed
>his dream was making a hearthstone knockoff

and nothing of value was lost

>>386641260
Well, at least you tried to make a point

>>386641308
>game
pass