What do you think of this game?

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It's good.

Really missed the long jump though.

>>386623491
The only game to ever give me motion sickness

>>386623491
its incomplete

It has good controls and bad level design.

A little wonky but I liked it

The sections without FLUDD, while cool from a game design standpoint, reveal just how inferior Mario's moveset is when compared to Super Mario 64. When you take away FLUDD, Mario controls like shit and his abilities feel extremely limited.

>>386623491
The level design got on my nerves and I put it down.
64 was better

>>386623491
Worst 3D Mario

>>386623491
Best Mario game ever made, didn't realize v had such shit opinions

It's like Super Mario 64 if the designers then had no confidence in their core platforming.

>>386623491
great game. if you say it's shit you honestly need to stick with your weeb undressing games

>>386623491
I like it, the setting is great and FLUDD is pretty neat. I actually prefer it over 64 because I'm not a 100% completion autist.

>>386623491

It was good, different. Cut scenes did not need to be there, so painful.

I think they hover spray should have been way more limited, game felt better in the mini levels when they took the pack away.

It's the only mario game I consider to be an 8/10 or better.

>>386623781
Wow, it's almost like the game was designed around the fludd as a core part of his moveset or something?

> Mario controls like shit

Are you serious? Mario is way more responsive then in 64.

>>386623491
64 was better

>>386623491
great gameplay
shit worlds and levels.
you fight the same blooper like 3 times, and shadow mario like 8.
don't even get me started on blue coins. or some of the fucking stupid missions, like "stay on these stupid boats for an hour to destroy this cheese on this stupid pipe, and oh yeah, at the end of it all heres one of the hardest levels of the game".
i'll just end it with this
>pachinko

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I replayed it for the first time in about a decade last month.
It's incredibly boring when 4-5 of every mission is similar to other worlds. IIRC, every level has
>Boss fight
>8 red coins
>Secret
>Shadow Mario chase (bonus on this one because it's never not mission 7)
>Most have another boss.
>some bullshit for a shine that doesn't actually progress your game.
It's just so dull when every world you jump into you already know what 5 of the 8 missions are.

Shadow Mario chases in particular suck ass because they actively punish you for being able to run faster than him because he'll run into you. So you have to do this half-assed chase while holding spray half-down but can't be too good or you can't hit him.

Worst 3D Mario game.

>>386624227
>shit worlds and levels.

u wot, having great themeing for it's levels and great atmosphere is what it does right

>>386624169
>way more responsive
>most of his mechanics are gone

>>386625440
Too bad there's hardly any platforming in any of the missions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4w9mqdzkzQ

Needs a port.

NOT A REMAKE WHERE THEY RUIN EVERYTHING, NOT A HD VERSION WITH BLOOM EVERYWHERE WHEN THERE IS ALREADY BLOOM.

Just a simple port with increased resolution.

mario 64 with shittier handling and shittier levels, some even being inexeusably bad like >>386624102

it would be a 4/10 if it didn't have bing bing 1up wahoo man in it

Last interesting 3d mario game.

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>>386625793
>The Mario level with the least amount of levels and variety is interesting

>>386625452
The only thing he lost was the long jump. Granted, that's kind of a big deal, but the game is clearly designed around the hover nozzle instead.

Sunshine is a GOAT game

>>386623491
>Sequel to Mario 64
>Less worlds than 64
>Can't find shines outside the mission you selected

It's fucking shit.

>>386626014
I think the worst part is is that in Sunshine the only thing that matters are that you complete mission 7 in each of the worlds, every other Shine is literally useless.

Whereas 64 you could get the 70 Stars in a bunch of different ways which added a lot of replayability.

It's a 3D Mario game with a fully-controllable camera.

In other words, it's so far the only 3D Mario game that's tolerable to play.

>>386623491
Always puts me in the mood for summer.

It's fucking shite.

It introduced Bowser Jr. and replaced Bowser's REAL koopa kids.

Also, it gave Bowser a voice.

'Nuff said.

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>>386628764
>It introduced Bowser Jr.
Nothing wrong with this.
>and replaced Bowser's REAL koopa kids
Everyone knows the Koopaling are also Bowsers kids doc. Pointless revisionism wont change this.
>Also, it gave Bowser a voice.
Also nothing wrong with this.

>>386623491
The one thing that scared the shit out of me is that removed enemy called the "Tramplin' Stu"

That fucking eye on the top of it's head... just.. fucking scary.

>>386623552
Hey they make up for it by letting you hit extreme speeds when you dive on wet ground which is all the time

>>386623491
Good game. Fantastic movement mechanics and satisfying platforming. Too few levels, but the design is OK. Lame structure.

>>386626160
This, 100% this.

>>386629087
Well it was missing part of it that would make it look a ton more natural, the mushroom head part of it
Woulda looked a lot more normal with it
Also i hate how much was cut from it
What was it, 3 or 5 other levels, a transport system, kug, shit like that

>>386624227
>not enjoying some of the most challenging shit a Mario game has had to offer
Fuck off the stupid boat cheese pipe setup was awesome, and required great yoshi skill and planning.

>>386628996
Talk about having bad taste.

>>386625452
That's an issue of quaniityt of movements, not how responise those movements are.

Try turning on a dime in 64, it's like moving in oil.

Also, the only thing he lost was the long jump which, as >>386625938 mentions, the fludd replaces

>>386625552
And it works fine despite that, they all feel way more interesting and like lived in spaces to explore then any of 64's levels.

You are just assmad it's not following your personal idea of what a mario game should be, instead of juding it just based on what it is.

>>386625857
>>386626014
It's more interesting despite the lower quantity of levels, and BECAUSE the lower amount of variety: it means the entire game has a cohesive theme and it allows all the locations to feel like real places that are connected to each other.

>>386629635
You're making a terrible case for SMS. You're damaging the case more than anything.

boring as fuck, too much focus on cleaning up dirt. this game is capable of literally putting you to sleep. It was p much considered the worst Mario ever at the time but now the gamecube kiddies try to suggest it's some kind of classic. Nice graphics, that's it.

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>>386629568
What is exactly wrong with Junior?
What is wrong with Bowser having a voice when games like Paper Mario gave him the ability to talk?

>>386629719
No, i'm explaining what makes it appealing to the people who like it, like me.

If

>it means the entire game has a cohesive theme and it allows all the locations to feel like real places that are connected to each other.

makes it sound worse to you, then you just want something different out of the game. That doesn't make your opinion any valid

>>386623884
>worst 3D mario
3D land and 3D world say hi.

>>386629845
I like it and I like it in spite of the tiny level variety. You don't speak for everyone.

>>386623491
Worst 3D Super Mario game by far, but still a decent game. The voice acting is hilariously bad, though. I'm still not sure why Nintendo thought it was a good idea to include voice acting in this game when Mario was doing just fine without it.

>>386629927
>>386629862

>>386629862
You forgot the Galaxy games bud.

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All your complaints are asinine as fuck. The game is like that for a reason. Your plebian minds just can't understand that though.

>>386623491

The level design is not very good.

>>386629635
But the stages themselves are not interesting enough to justify the lack of variety. Take Gelato Beach for example, it largely consists of three flat horizontal planes with little verticality to them at all.

Almost all of 64's levels have a lot of verticality to them (not saying Sunshine's don't have any, Noki Bay is a good example) and then the Galaxy games have far more varied and inventive level design than Sunshine.
The game has some stuff going for it but levels sure as hell aren't one of them which is important for a Mario game.

>>386623491
best 3D mario. period.

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>>386629862
>>386629981
>3D World
>Bad

I never beat it because it was too hard for me

Since they love jacking to it so much I hope it shows up in Odyssey.