valves new game in over 5 years is a shitty f2p card game

who cares valve is irrelevant now

Stop buying all your games through Steam you dorks

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>>386616446
>It won't even beat Hearthstone at the Waifu game
At least it might have fewer ruskis playing it.

This is the future you chose.

>>386616661
>At least it might have fewer ruskis playing it.

You're joking right?
a card game based on DOTA 2 wont have as many ruskis playing...

>valve sucks
more news at 11

>>386616554
this

Every fucking company these days is releasing a gayass cashgrab card game. No one is immune. Blizzard, CDProjekt & Valve just to name a few. Fucking jews. They can of course do as they wish.

>>386616661
>Nazi armband with mining/archaeology guild insignia
what did they mean by this

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THATS FUCKING IT

IM FUCKING DONE

THEY COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING AMAZING AND ITS A FUCKING DOTA GAME FOLLOWING THE SHITTY CARD GAME FAGGOT SHIT

>expecting anything from them in the first place

You only have yourself to blame

>>386616446
A shitty card game that'll rake in billions and be in the Steam top ten for the next six years.

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No company is able to do a good digital card game because their instinct is always to nerf, instead of buffing, which might work in other areas but not in digital card games.

pcbros and steamcucks will eat this up

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>>386616792
It means WE ARE THEEEEE, EXPLORER'S LEAAAAAAGUE, WE AAAARE A LEAGUE OF EXPLORERS!

I like card games

>>386616961
What? I said pcbros not pcbros

shut the f*ck up they made tf2 the best online fps ever

you're calling it shitty while not knowing any details about it

>>386616554
past 2011 at least

im glad VR flopped

it was 2-3 years too early and needed 4k+ 144hz to be any good

2k 120hz wasnt good enough

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I'm actually excited for a Valve TCG because they do some of the most fair free to play models in the industry

maybe you'll actually be able to trade cards on the market, yknow like a TRADING CARD game

>>94522382
I still reserve the opinion that I want to be kept underneath her desk so that I may service her orally after a long, hot, sweaty day of archaeology.

>>386617143
that would make it interesting. But it's dota so I'm immediately turned off by it.

>>386617143
That would actually be pretty cool.

You have to remember that separate teams work on separate projects

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>when even normal companies are catching up to the fact that TCGs are boring as fuck an barely video games valve releases a plain old TCG
>based on the most boring setting

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>>386617143
> because they do some of the most fair free to play models in the industry

hahahahHAHAHAHHA

SELLING MOST POWERFUL UNUSUAL RARE TINTED FOILED DOTA 2 SUPER ULTRA RARE CARD ON THE STEAM MARKET FOR $2000

thread theme
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dfAn_Kz6Sh4

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>4 years ago everyone playing dota talks bout how cool a dota card game would be because the hero pick screen looks like a deck of cards laid out

>4 years of half assed development later introduce a f2p half assed card game when everyones fucking over and tired with card games
It's actually incredible how fucking lazy valve is

>>386617056
Holy shot V A L V E drones is censored

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Lame. LAME.
Why did Valve have to turn out the way it did? There would've been nothing wrong with having Steam print money for them and still make video games on the side. WHY ARE THEY SO FUCKING LAZY?

>>386617324

pcbros

>>386617315
Valve only makes games now that they can put pay2win or cash shop shit into because they want more money.
GabeN is just all about those hamburgers now and doesnt give a shit about actual games, just machines that make money.

>>386616446
Why does every company want to be Blizzard?

>>386617303
and it doesn't affect gameplay dipshit

>>386617303
>w-wah I can't get the shiny thing cuz I'm poor

>>386617303
>cosmetics
Wow its fucking nothing.
>build good deck using normal cards
>get packs for winning
>sell the pack contents unless you need them
>rinse and repeat
EZ moni

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>>386616638
>I don't like Valve so stop buying games from the largest and arguably the best digital distribution platform for video games ever

This meme needs to stop

I'm more surprised they didn't shit out another FPS game. Valve struck way, way too late if they wanted to make their own Gwent clone (nobody plays Blizzard's shitty yugi-oh/magic the gathering ripoff using WoW characters which Gwent btfo)

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>>386617458
>>386617490
>>386617492
>>386617513


V A L V E KEKS ARE DEFENDING THIS

I'm honestly not even surprised at this point. Just sad.

>>386617609
Not an argument.

>>386617143
I'd prefer if they released actual games instead of a glorified casino.

>>386617609
>all gameplay stuff is free
>cosmetic bs is paid
how is this a bad f2p model you fucking knuckledragger?

explain. use your words.

>gearbox announces they're working on their own card game with badass FPS elements
>valve announces their try at the hearthstone clone on the very same day and completely drowns them out
It's like poetry.

>>386616446
What if it's good? Personally I don't give a fuck about card games but it could be very good for the genre.

>>386617609
>ah-aahha d-damage control

try again

Who fucking cares, it's a card game. It'll be popular for a bit, dies down a bit (don't care if it's become as pop as HS) but once that's all and done. MAYBE they'll start making games again

pcbros

I haven't been this disappointed since FFX-2.

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>>386617842

hi this is john from Valve we are working on a new fps which finally brings portal and half life together thats all i can tell

Is this the precise moment that Valve jumped the shark?

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They could have made TF3 and put Overshit in its place.
But nope.

>>386617056
newfag

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Valve can do whatever they want as a successful multimillion dollar company. You guys need to stop being entitled and just deal with it. And if it makes them money it's an objectively good game.

>>386616912
buffing alternatives is literally always a better choice in games

nerfing things just means less fun

valve is not a video game company anymore, deal with it nerd

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Valve has the resources to make the next big game.
They could literally make the next Overwatch but actually good.
Yet they do this shit.
Is Gaben a tyrant?
Does he have to die?

>>386618392
yeah because we all buy and play games so other people can make money.......esp from beloved franchises like hl

>>386618029
i agree with this image 100%

except i'd add that OW also does the cancer Dota thing where it gives the illusion of depth by adding a shitload of characters that have a basement level skill ceiling.

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>>386616446
How much time did they worked on this?

>>386618630
Just like the Metroid fans, you're just gonna have to deal with it. Customer entitlement is the worst thing in the industry.

>>386617513
What does GOG have to do with this?

>>386617324
No it's fucking not
pcbros

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>>386616446
Wait... if its not pay2win then thats actually amazing

>>386616661
What a bastardized NE, uugh.

>>386616446

Why the fuck are Blizzard and Valve trying to outdo each other all the time, with shittier and shittier products?

Next thing you know Blizzard will make a Starcraft FPS and Valve will be making a Half Life MMO

I wonder if they'll just delay this game for eternity because of backlash. They've had a lot of practice in that regard.

>>386619135

>Amazing

Oh boy, another card game. Not like there aren't already dozens out there. No, VALVE'S card game will be revolutionary. Maybe...you can CUSTOMIZE your card with special animations and borders! Yeah....yeah....maybe some EXCLUSIVE artworks/cards for those that purchase DLC on certain games....that could be a game changer. Or maybe funny emotes/announcer voices!! Ahahahah....I'm already rolling in laughter! My sides are ovulating now....Ahehehe....yeah! I'm REALLY REALLY looking forward to this game.! Valve is the best game company out there! Better than....5 million Miyamoto clones compressed into a Mega-Miyamoto, turned into carbonite, and then broken down into building materials to build the head quarters of a super game company!! Wew! I CANT WAIT TO PLAY THIS GAME!

>>386619216
>and Valve will be making a Half Life MMO
/v/ would break if this ever came to pass I eagerly await seeing it

>>386619452
is this getting backlash outside of a couple places?
i woudnt be surprised if /r/dota2 was sucking its dick hardcore right now

>>386616446

>dota

But the dota universe sucks outside of WC3

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Remember when Valve set the trend in the industry instead of being 4 years too late?
This is impressively slow, even for them.

>>386616554
This. Valve is dying and Dota2 is hemorrhaging money from them.
>tfw you steam was a scam from the beginning and lived long enough to see valve die
Who else is enjoying this right now?

Eh, since Valve has money spilling out of their eyeballs, they could probably make the entire core gameplay free like they do with Dota 2. Or make it an LCG where you just buy expansions and get all of the cards for them without a need to open boosters or lootcrates.
I don't imagine they will, but if they do, they could at least carve out a niche in the genre if their entire model was based on being consumer friendly.
Shit on the cosmetics in tf2 and Dota 2, but the core gameplay doesn't change based on their existence. it's the least invasive way to do things.

>>386619642
no

>>386619602
The crowd itself was disappointed and just about everyone on the YouTube comment section is. You got me curious as to how /r/dota2 reacted and wouldn't you know it, they're at worst only cautiously optimistic, and at best think it's amazing. Christ.

itt: pcbros

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>>386618957
Good news is it looks like the Artifact team is mostly made up of new hires, so it's not taking away from the development of other games.

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>>386619903
>Dota2 is hemorrhaging money from them.
do absolute fucking retards actually believe this?

>>386619903
>hemmoraging money
>Made 260 million dollars in 2016
>made tens of millions of dollars in battle pass sales alone for TI7
Stop lying about the fucking game, you absolute monkey.

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>artifact is a spinoff of dota which is a spinoff of warcraft which was originally warhammer which is a rip-off of lord of the rings which is based on european myths and legends

Just kill it already

>>386619903

>Dota2 is hemorrhaging money from them

Do you have any idea how many millions they made from TI with selling virtual books and hats?

>>386619914
It wasn't a question and he's right, dota2 setting is the most generic fantasy setting in the entire industry.

>>386620010
As far as I know, the work structure at Valve is that the employees can work on whatever the fuck they want, so the new blood working on Artifact instead of anything else DOES mean that it's taking away from the development of their other games.

>>386620136
>taking inspiration from things is bad
Only retards think this, so congrats.

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>Valve has cards drop from games
>release a card game
>implying Valve won't implement the trading cards into the game in some way

keikaku doori this will print money and be the envy of all.

>>386619903
It's okay to hate Dota 2 but the absolute fact is it's not losing money. It's profitable.

>>386620010
Other games? What other games? Aren't TF2 and Dota 2 just run by maintenance bots at this point?

>>386620209
>>taking inspiration from things is bad

That's not the issue. The problem is that everything made after LOTR in this branch is absolute shit.

>>386619914

Yes. The Dota 2 lore is some of the most incomprehensible and inane drivel I've heard of in any video game.

>This hero comes from the land of flimflam under the despotic rule of the gollywoggle king and his 7 doodahs
>This hero which looks like he should be related is actually a cumgumble seeking revenge for the death of his tingdong bobbleburgle

>>386620231
It would make sense but Valve wants people to sell the trading cards since they get a cut from every sale. Don't see how they could implement a mix of trading cards from other games plus selling them on the market

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>>386620010
>development of other games.

>>386619969
>The crowd itself was disappointed
is there a clip of this?

>>386617056
Dumb consolewar redditor.

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>>386620010
>new hires
>instead of being the first non P2W TCG it'll be the first P2W valve game
Dear lord take away the pain please

>>386620389
who are you quoting

>>386620763

I'm not quoting, I'm paraphrasing

>>386620523
https://twitter.com/nickisnixed/status/895091539025698816/video/1

>>386616789
CDProjekt turned Gwent into an online multiplayer game simply because of fan request, it was a unique and addictive as fuck minigame in Witcher 3. It was not made to exploit the TCG "boom," it's not even a cashgrab game when you can craft the decks of your wishes completely free very quickly.

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>>386620960

>>386616912
I see you've never played dota

>>386619018
Nobody mentioned or referenced GOG. Not surprising as nobody use it.

>>386616446
How do you know that it's when it's not even out yet? I'd like for someone to do it right for once.

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>>386620960
this almost makes it worth it
the collective live audible disappointment of thousands of people
wonder how that must have felt

>>386619903
>Valve is dying and Dota2 is hemorrhaging money from them.
Source: your ass

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how will gabe damage control THIS

>>386619969
>they're at worst only cautiously optimistic
there are plenty of people upset about it you lying idiot.

Valve should have used their existing trading cards for a game, then it would have a real hit.

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>>386620960
I can just imagine the Valve team
Hearing the build up, seeing people's eyes light up! AND THEN
>card game
>aaaaaaaawwwwwwwww

>>386617143
You'll be trading at a loss because of the market tax.
Plus, TCG are pay-to-win by design if you're not allowed access to every card from the start.

>>386620979
>it's not even a cashgrab game when you can craft the decks of your wishes completely free very quickly
what a load of bullshit
Game gives you LITERALLY ONE FUCKING PACK at the start
SV gives you fucking 50 without doing any quests and shit
Now guess which one is a cashgrab

>>386616446
Jesus christ. Fuck them

>>386621203
Well whatever. I only bothered to look at the highest thread and a few of its highest upboated replies.

>>386621198
ignore it and continue like always
like what, paid mods was pretty much the only exception to the rule wasnt it?
nobody at valve gives a fuck the only people who remain at higher positions are the ones who have gotten fat and lazy and are coasting into retirement with sacks of cash
anyone else who cares or even wants to do something that resembles real work left

>>386616446
Makes sense when you consider how valve has made their obscene amounts of cash via rng crates. Stevie Wonder could see that the game will have booster packs out the ass.

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>>386620960

>>386621198
Let's be honest. This is Valve. This teaser is basically saying "maybe within the next five years, we'll actually release the damn thing"

>>386621198
The game's gonna come out and suck up all that card money, hardly matters.

>>386621325
Shadowverse because there are rerolling guides that if you don't follow mean you're stuck with shitty cards for months while you grind them.
Unless you want to play Banner Sword for the rest of your fucking life.

>>386621325
When you actually start playing, you get drowned in scraps and kegs.

I've played Gwent for around 150 hours in total, have five different decks I consider complete and almost in Grandmaster rank with zero money wasted. Crafting a legendary card takes around one week.

Meanwhile I must have played Cancerstone for over 1000 hours and still haven't got to build a single deck I could compete with and have gathered enough powder for only one legendary while the game has been designed for P2W all around (no limited legendaries, dailies require you to own certain cards and so on).

Also, at the end of season Gwent will give me 18 free kegs even when I already own about 80% of all the cards.

>>386620062
do u know how much it cost to run dota2???????????????????????? hello??????????????????????????
retard

>>386617513
Well yes. Get some standards.

Everyone should know by now that valve dont make games, they make revenue generating platforms

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>>386620960
Good

>>386616638
i don't buy games through steam but they always seem to have to activate on steam

>>386621325
Also, I would rather just kill myself than play Cancerstone clone for free, it's an old concept, nothing interesting about it anymore.

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>This is not a game like CSGO that's based on Counter strike or Dota 2 that was based on Dota 1

I mean technically he was right, but still

>>386619903
this is a falseflag isn't it

>>386616446
Cash revenue over Quality games

fuck capitalism

All the faggots talking shit in this thread will be spending hours playing this game. Hypocrites.

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>>386621662
>When you actually start playing, you get drowned in scraps and kegs.
not true
game won't even give you ability to fucking grind
because you can only have limited amount of shit every day.
>>386621660
You're just proving my point by saying this
Yes, you can reroll if you want to play f2p and get most out of your free packs.
>>386621796
kill yourself

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dotards own this shit

pcfags

pcbros

but i like card games, it might be good

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Fuck this gay earth.

I cannot believe my fucking eyes.

>>386622015
That's precisely the problem. Valve doesn't even need to makes games anymore, this shits just gonna print money from moronic masses yet again

R.I.P. Valve
1996 - 2011

>>386622146
When did this happen? I mean you can still just say PC cucks but still

>>386621929
>fuck capitalism herp derp socialism lmao
The consumers define the acceptable quality standards, not the companies.

You know I love cardgames so I'm always willing to give it a go.

>>386622038
>not true
You just completely ignore everything I just said? I just precisely elaborated how much progress I've made in 150 hours for free, how many cards I own, how long it takes to craft a legendary card and how the amount of legendaries in decks are moderated, what rank I've reached without paying any money, yet you simply state "not true" with broken grammar.

That's not how things work around here, pal.

T-there will be a proper game announced soon, right?

>>386622275
No

>>386622236
And the consumers are willing to eat shit and companies are willing to put ins dlc garbage and pre order special bonuses for that reason. Capitalism sort of imply's people are smart to enough to actually manage themselves

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>>386622319

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AHHHH CARD GAMES ARE GETTING POPULAR SO I HATE THIS NOW AHHHH

of course i would have preferred TF3 or something better, but who knows this might be fun.

>>386622236
It was a joke, but if you are seriously on some drugs if you think what you just said is true

I hate that this is going to make them so much fucking money.

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>>386616446
>F2P card game
>Doesn't even have cute anime girls
doomed to failure

>>386616446
Valve was never good. Tf2 was decent and left for dead was decent. Other than that they're crap.

"Ohh my name is valve I buy up the rights to mods then pretend they're a new game"

>>386622267
i played CBT
they deleted all my cards that i got by playing the game
then gave me 1 pack on fresh account
this is the ultimate jew
You can get around 70-80 packs in SV by just doing achievements and solo mode
around 20 arena tickets which is basically another 20 packs if you don't wanna play it.
SV is the most generous CCG game and Gwent is fucking HS level jewness while being completely new for the scene.
No wonder Gwent is dying and you're here defending it with sweat like a retard.
I rest my case.

>>386622470
there's a reason i never picked up that one game.
anime is shit and for normies

>>386622489
>tactically leaving out half life

u wanna fuckin go bud?

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>tfw Artifact 2 will be released before Half-Life 3

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>>386622470
>DING DONG

>>386616446
Goddamned beta males spilled too much money into their fucking dota2 hats

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>>386622602
ding

>>386622585

Half Life is honestly not that good. Literally the proto-Call of Duty

>>386622585
>anime is shit and for normies

Don't know what kind of bizarro world you live in, but you're the normie and will always be.

I'm cautiously interested actually

>>386622585
I think half life is dogshit. I appreciate what it did for the medium (not really though doom and quake were better) but the games themselves were shit. I've dropped both of them several times. I can't bring myself to finish them. Before you call me underage I played both of them on release.

>>386618329
>>386620570
What did 4chan change this time? Last time remembering was the desu, senpai, and baka shit.

>>386622451
>https://mises.org/library/source-prices

>>386622653
Sounds like something someone who's never played it would say

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I lost faith in Valve for quite sometime now, but seeing this still makes me sad

>>386622653
Haha, what?

>>386622695
pcu.ck

>>386622680
He's probably talking about ironic weebs which are a bit common unfortunately.

>>386622653
You have no idea what you are even talking about.

>>386622038
>game won't even give you ability to fucking grind
because you can onlyhave limited amount of shit every day

The dailies alone grant you at least two decks every day, even three if you go all the way in grind along with a nice amount of scraps and meteorite powder. That, and the amount of gg rewards are unlimited. The dailies offer so much I have never even completed the daily rewards fully, only do them half-way at most.

I doubt you have played Gwent for longer than two hours.

pcbro

>>386622736
When I think about how much capacity Valve has to do good things and their unwillingness to do it I get depressed

valve = shit

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>>386622793
>The dailies alone grant you at least two decks every day
you've come a long way Gwent shill

test pcbro

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>>386622653
This is fucking stupid, even for /v/.

>>386622823
At this point, the expectations are too high and they are just wussing the fuck out

But in their defense, the mass that populate the market today are way too easy to fool and milk money off of

The Golden Age is just past

>>386619804
seriously, even if it has actual trading and buying/selling of cards they'll be late on that front too

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>>386622470
>Anime girls
The Valve fanbase are full on homos

>>386622653
You need to be 18 or older to post here.

>>386622574
>closed beta
>they gave me 1 pack on fresh account

It was a closed beta and everybody knew the wipe was coming for open beta. The fact you only earned one pack shows that you barely touched the game, I got 15+ decks in open beta for participating in CBT which I played for maybe 10 hours in total.

While I defend Gwent, that's only because you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

>>386620960
>I was saying boo-urns

>>386622685
>Played HL1 on release, hated it, decided to buy HL2 as well
Not only are you stupid, you're also dumb.

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>>386622942
Early 90s to early 2000s is where it's at

We all can bitch about this as much as we want. It will still be very popular and there's nothing we can do about it.

>>386622653
this is a solid 8/10

pcbros

>>386620389
Yeah you actually have to invent names when you create a fantasy setting

>>386623107
Actually my brother bought hl2 so I got to try it for free. He loves story driven fpses like half life and bioshock but I think they're fucking awful.

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Better that than HL3 that will receive endless threads shitting on it, L4D3 with the same result.
Or god forbid TF3. That shitshow would be terrible.

And the reason for this is: It will not please the idiots begging for it, and it will die in a month.

>>386623037
>15 decks for 10 hours
i played around 30 hours, i got something like 3 packs extray, you're lying through your teeth
the amount of shit they gave for players who tested their game for free is ridiculously small
The fact, that NEW players get 1 fucking pack is just mind boggling
stop it

>>386623120
What a coincidence that aligns perfectly with your childhood. It's almost like you're unable to find happiness in anything other than the media you consumed as a child becuase capitalism alienates you from being able to find happiness as an adult due to having to work for most of the day.

>>386623214
You seriously would take a card game over what you just listed?

>Valve card game

oh sweet it mite b cool

>Dota card Game

into the trash it goes.

did anyone really ask for this?
did someone actually went ... "hey, i really wish there was a Dota card game like Hearthstone"

you guys do know Valve is probably working on a new Heroes FPS like OW.

i mean TF2 is pretty much dead.

also Riot is probably going to get their hands into the OW like games.

Here is what you guys do

Stop giving them money for stupid crap.

Stop buying boxes, stop buying keys, stop buying tournament passes.

Stop caring about stupid cosmetics.

>>386623420
>i mean TF2 is pretty much dead.
constantly in the top 10 most played games for almost 10 years straight. Hue update about to come out

>>386621929
yeah because socialism created so many fun video games before collapsing in a heap

Tetris was the ONLY good game to ever come out of the USSR, and the creator never saw any money or credit from it until he moved to the capitalist United States.

Most Russian citizens wouldn't have even known what a video game was until capitalism rose again and people could buy luxury products

Really good climate for encouraging video game creation amirite?

>>386623450
We're the 1%
The 99% will buy this shit

>>386617143

The Valve that came up with the Dota 2 monetization scheme is dead

This is the same company that tried to sell mods and had thousand dollar limited use items in the TI6 compendium. Expect the worst

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>>386623214
>>386623361
Half Life 3 at this point is a meme. Nobody else is really excited about it anymore.

>>386623330
Wow, you almost had a decent post until you went full retard. That was such a quick turn into idiocy I'm actually impressed.

>>386616446
that's a smart move from them, i mean look at how easily blizzard can milk retards through their "card game"

>>386623330
Nah I did most of my gaming 2008-2012

If I was a kid nowadays my video game experience would probably just be watching streamers play minecraft or F2P phone scams

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>>386623287
You can't even write man let alone play, so that would explain why you would make such poor progress in 30 hours. They rewarded you for your level and rank, more for the latter. Though admittedly, it could have been 20 hours at max.

You are literally rewarded by the official daily mechanic till 66 rounds: that's 33 matches. Just how many matches do you grind per day if that's not enough? That combined with all the other rewards the game gives you.

>>386623361
I'd rather have nothing at all than a game that is abandoned by its playerbase or plain unfinished.
This game just proves the point nicely.

>>386623420
>did someone actually went ... "hey, i really wish there was a Dota card game like Hearthstone"
yea

>>386623450
In no perceivable reality will this actually happen

Hell, people log onto games just for the sake of grabbing cosmetics, look at Overwatch

>>386623510
It was a joke. My point was that not all games that become popular are deserving of it. Can you honestly look at the most played PC games today and tell me off with a straight face?

>Could do interesting and unique setting
>Just cash in on shitty Dota 2 universe and slap your characters on cards

hmm

>>386623420
Dota has the biggest universe of all Valve games, it was the obvious option to make a card game

>>386619903
>This. Valve is dying and Dota2 is hemorrhaging money from them.
Man what the fuck are you even babbling about

Is there any actual info about this shit or did valve just play a short motion graphic to troll everyone?

>>386617303
>cosmetics
>meanwhile all the gameplay shit is free
Yer a retard harry

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>>386623489
TF2 is dead actually if you ignore the popularity.

>Pyro Update is the last Valve-made update and the ones after are going to be community
>Meet Your Match killed off many community servers and idle, trade, and 24/7 map servers usually fill up the server browser
>Big updates are getting longer and longer

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>>386623889

>>386622774
I am, the weebs who literally cant stop themselves from posting smug anime girl reaction images because it's the most hilarious thing in the world le epic trol.

(this post guaranteed to be replied to with a smug anime girl u mad xDDDD u seem mad xD)

>>386623959
>TF2 is dead if you ignore the people playing it

I guess by the same metric Dota is also dead. Are you stupid?

>>386623959
>TF2 is dead actually if you ignore the popularity.
I just woke up but I'm sure nobody is going to top this phrase today

>>386623959
Don't get those fags who are still asking for more weapons and maps

>>386623867
Valve shared universe would have been better. Portal, TF2, Left 4 Dead and Dota. That might have even motivated them to make actual new games.

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>>386623959
>TF2 is dead actually if you ignore the popularity.

>>386623420
>Valve releases TF3
>Classes have powers like a Moba or Overwatch

AHHH
MONKEYS PAW NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>386616912
but hearthstone is good. its not something that i want to play all the time, but its definitely the best mobile game out there.

>>386623959
put me in the screencap

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>>386623718
>it was a joke
Poe's law. See pic. Wasn't really any way to tell it was a joke at all.
>My point was that not all games that become popular are deserving of it
Oh I agree with that, it's just that what you originally said was fucking retarded, and that's why it got that response.


Restrain yourself from pretending to be retarded and people won't assume that you are one.

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>>386624103
Dota is definitely dying, proportionately.

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>>386623959
>TF2 is dead actually if you ignore the popularity
Retard alert.

>>386624180
>TF3
>Moba

Th-they wouldn't actually do that, right?

>>386623963
Well, at least it doesn't sound exactly like HS... I guess.

Maybe if they actually let you trade cards they would have a small chance of this not being the biggest flop of the decade.

So, is anybody at Valve allowed to make real games anymore and not just profit machines? I thought that Valve was supposed to have one of the better, more open environments for their developers where they had more leeway to start their own projects. Is that gone now?

>>386616912
Dota is literally that exact philosophy. I doubt it will follow over into Artifact though.

>>386624276
All games are continuously dying all the time. Saying "dying" is pointless, a game is either dead (takes you an unreasonable amount of time to find people to play with) or it isn't.

>>386616446
>5 years

Half life came out way before that, friend.
Valve don't make games

>>386623959
well baited

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>>386624310
Mann vs Machine

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>make new source engine 3
>nope
>make tf3, portal 3, left for dead 3, half life 3
>nope
>make a new fucking IP
>nope
>make hearthstone clone instead

Did valve sit around with the thought that if blizzard was able to successfully make a better tf2 clone, then it would be a good idea to get back at them by trying to make a hearthstone clone?

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>>386616446
valve really is beyond saving, aren't they

>>386624343
there's a conspiracy going on that the chinese bought gaben's soul, maybe they got their hands on some really expensive knifes that they won't give to gaben until they get more pachinko machines

>>386624310
It would not be a MOBA, but yes they would.
If it was a new thing they could steal the concept of.

On the other hand, so long as CSGO and now PUBG exist, they are set money wise for at least that long.

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>>386624093
You mad? You seem mad.

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>>386623959

>>386624149
>portal universe
>5-6 characters
>tf2
>12 characters tops (comics included)
>l4d
>16?
>dota 2
>110 heroes with multiple side characters from the comics and even more from the lore and item descriptions

Shoehorning other unrelated characters in a mostly dota card game would have looked awful and pointless. HotS had to do it because otherwise there wouldn't have been enough Blizzard characters, but Valve didn't have any reason to make it so

>>386624438
>hs clone

doesnt sound like hs at all to me desu
i mean, theyre both card games but cmon

>>386624438
>draw a puffy pussy
>call it a mouth

INCASE

>>386617268

I am of similar mindset. I could see potential for new avenues in the genre...but the genre is one I have very much decided is not for me.

>>386624491
dude you did the thing i said that i don't like what a great post.

reminder that you're the equivalent of 13 year olds that go "haha trolled bro i literally trolled you so hard, epic fail"

>>386624438
>a better tf2 clone
eh

>>386617097
>muh graphics
The only thing that failed was the lack of any games that actually put VR to use like Jedi Outcast and Black and White.

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>>386623959
>TF2 is dead actually if you ignore the popularity.
Thanks for enlightment

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>>386624551
>not loving big pussy lips

u fooking cheeky cunt.

>>386617143
>because they do some of the most fair free to play models in the industry
That's now unironically Blizzard though, because both Hearthstone and Overwatch have been updated so boxes prioritize content you don't have. Meaning it's no longer gambling and instead just a random unlock system.

>>386624530
Dota has 110 heroes that no one except Dota players care about, the other properties have actual meme and nostalgia value.

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>>386624617
You're funny anon.

>>386624103
I read my post again and saw it. It's nice to laugh at yourself.

This is why I play TF2 but don't buy any items.
I'm slowly killing Valve from the inside. By contributing to their server costs they will soon fall.

>>386617609

pay to win cosmetics m i rite

>>386624643
>popularity

Subjective. Most people don't care about it anymore, which is why it is dead.

>>386624659
>Hearthstone
Source? That'd be a great change

>>386622736

As I saw the writers leave earlier on, I got the "uh oh" feeling.

>>386624343
From former employee statements, it seems that structure just leads to cliques who get nothing done.

>>386624535
WHO THE FUCK WANTS ANOTHER CARD GAME

THE LAST TIME VALVE MADE A NEW FUCKING IDEA OR AT-LEAST A CLEVER SPIN ON A CURRENT IDEA WAS LEFT 4 DEAD AND THAT WAS 9 FUCKING YEARS AGO

where's half life, which hasn't gotten a conclusion since its cliffhanger ending 10 years ago?

Where's Portal, which has a million possibilities to go with since the concept is not limited to a single idea and hasn't been copied in other games?

Where's Left 4 Dead 3, with a creation tool or less campaign-based focus to encourage replays?

Where's fucking Alien Swarm the full game?

like GOD FUCKING DAMMIT WHERE IS TF3

on second thought, i don't want any of this shit from nuValve. TF2 was fucked over from the inside out and Portal 2 was the beginning of the end.

>pubg popular as fuck
>valve make similar game that's actually good engine

nah, let's make some card game instead

>>386624438
>make a new fucking IP
PUBG is here to stay unless the devs fuck up massively.
They don't have to develop and it prints money. What more do you want.

Your reminder that most of the big Valve IPs are things they bought off or hired the devs of.

>>386624828
https://www.pcgamesn.com/hearthstone/hearthstone-legendary-pack-opening-chances

>>386624670
Most people who played those three franchises play dota 2
>meme value
fuck off

They could make a ton of money if it's good.

Tbh i have never seen a tcg with everything non visual free
They are keeping this part of dota, right?

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But will Ilexa be a card?

https://www.f-list.net/c/ilexa

Wah wah muh hl3 ;_;
how are you kids so entitled

>>386624856
i wouldnt doubt they've started making one

valve just follows trends now

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>>386616446

>dota card game

>>386624935
So it's just for legendaries
Better than nothing I suppose

>>386624438

I would have supported the attempt to make a better starcraft than Blizzard.

Big ol "CLEAR" "BZZZT" for the genre possibly...

>>386624883
pubg isn't made, supported, or contracted by valve.

valve is just the middleman for hosting via steam.

>>386624968
It's a card game. So no.

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10 years

Newfags saying they don't like half life

Newfags defending free to play garbage """"games"""""

>>386624883
>pubg
>valve IP
what

>>386625226
How is F2P any less good than P2P or B2P?
F2P actually make more money.

>>386625114
Yes. But it still prints money with its current microtransactions.
Even better than having to pay someone to do the job and maintain the thing.

Face it, no new IP will come from Valve unless they decide to hire someone who already has a proven concept. They are a service provider now.

>>386625226
HL2 is a mediocre game
HL1 is pretty fun though

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>weke up
>see this

>>386625114
>Valve doesn't make games anymore
>instead, people make games for Valve, and some even go so far as to give Valve credit for it

who the hell even plays card games?

I thought they were for middle aged women who would play candy crush or some other facebook shit

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https://twitter.com/nickisnixed/status/895091539025698816/video/1
>valve annoucnes at a public event
>crowd goes from :D to -_-
>mein sides

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>>386624438

Did Valve even do anything with source engine 2?

I remember seeing demos for updated plantation graphics from L4D, but that and the dota port over is pretty much all I can recall

>>386625356
The most they did was a half-assed port for DOTA 2. They've completely wasted it for years.

I never cared about the Dota 2 characters. Not sure why you would make a card game around that shit.

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>>386624978
I have waited 10 years for any sort of news. I have supported Valve since the wee ages of the "PC Master Race" joke. I spent cash on the TF2 cashshop and justified it. I said Valve's way of moderating games was fine. I even bought L4D2 even though I thought it was a ripoff.

I have given Valve nothing but support and goodwill for the majority of my PC gaming life. Where the fuck is Half-Life 3

This isn't some shit like Beyond Good and Evil 2 which was a sequel to a sort of profitable game, this is fucking Half-Life. It was sold to us a dozen and a half times. Basically everyone on Steam owns it. The game was massively successful. It was critically championed. Everyone wants to see it finished

All I want is for Valve to stop jerking us around and just say "it's cancelled: We don't make those kind of games anymore".

>>386624883
>Game is literally called "PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds"
>People still fuck up the developer of the game

>>386617971
I think that was when they announced Steam Machines actually, although you could probably consider this their second go.

>>386616446
Calm the fuck down faggot, they will announce more new games during Seam Dev Days

>>386625312
You realise TCG like Magic are still a huge thing, and its not played by middle aged women?
Its microtransactions even put CS' to shame.

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>source 2 in the works
>can render literally every crevice of alyx's fully modeled vagina
>just use it to make a shitty TCG

>>386622275
There'll be a VR game announced in October. Unless this was said VR game.

>>386624978
Nobody said anything about hl3 though?
It was made clear that it wasn't hl3 before the reveal

>>386625312
Nope, you might think Hearthstone takes no brains but it still requires more skill than matching colors.

what a fucking joke
thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJGfmyiid-c

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chill your neckbeards, not all is lost
They said they are working in 3 new games;

>inb4 TCG + 2 VR Games

>>386624973
Ilexia new hero when?

>>386625312
Geeks.

Hearthstone/SV excluded.

>>386625553
>valve
>3 new games
>3

wanna know how i know this is bullshit.

>>386625434
>SteamOS

>>386625530
yeah it takes some skill when you're playing BO7s against opponents you know, but the thing is, most people play that shit on their phone and the outcome is completely random

>>386625553
Dota TCG
Dota Kart
Dota Party

>>386625614
Gabe said that they were working on 3 fully featured VR games or some bullshit.

I don't buy it being anything else but tech demoey stuff and this card game.

>>386625421
When has Valve ever made any noise regarding HL3 though? When have they even hinted at something being in development?
The only one jerking the chain is faggots like you who wait for this game like some kind of messiah. That you fell for a self inflicted sunk cost fallacy is your own fault, and certainly not Valve's

>People still fuck up the developer of the game
That was no fuckup. The new succesful IP on Steam is PUBG. It prints money, they don't have to do anything about it but reap the benefits.
Valve is a service provider, and now they carry popular game that give them large amounts of money for little work.

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>>386625553
They said 3 new VR games.

This card meme will be playable in and out of VR, so that counts as one.

I have been on this ride a long time, I guarantee the next ones will be literally nothing also.

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>>386623959
>TF2 is dead actually if you ignore the popularity
>smuganimegirl.jpg

>>386625596
N E V E R

>>386625732
>This card meme will be playable in and out of VR, so that counts as one.
That counts as two though.

>>386625226
>old games are automatically good
>a sequel would also be automatically good
nice try

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BUT GUYS DON'T YOU LOVE CARD GAMES AND MOBAS

THERE'S A MILLION OF THEM BUT GUYS AREN'T YOU EXCITED FOR ANOTHER ONE

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>>386616446
Where did it all go wrong.

>>386625707
>When has Valve ever made any noise regarding HL3 though?
http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Future_of_the_Half-Life_series

I ain't summarizing that shit. Read it for yourself.

>>386625614
He said during an ama a few months back. Then again, valve making games soon is not a phrase you hear often. Maybe some 5 years before they remember they're technically still a developer.

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>>386625678
I would literally play the last 2.

>Meepo has to drive 5 karts

>>386625732
3 new VR compatible games you fucking retard

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>>386620010

>so it's not taking away from the development of other games.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/02/valve-chet-faliszek-writer-htc-vive-departure/

>With Faliszek's decision to move on, the entirety of Half-Life's writing team is gone. The natural thing to do is point to the death of the series that built the company. But beyond hopeless dreams of a sequel, the fact remains that Valve, ostensibly a game developer, has lost its three most notable writers in less than 18 months. Another author formerly at the company, Ted Kosmatka, left Valve after finishing work on Dota 2 lore.

MEANWHILE AT VALVE

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>>386624670
Yeah, Valve must be a fucking idiot making a card game with characters that only appeals to 105,000,000 people. might be close to double that with chinese players

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>>386625892
RICOCHET 2 WHEN???

>>386625553
I can see where this is going. It seems valve want to make their version of popular games on the market. So expect battle royale l4d3

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>>386625732
>a vr card game
>my fucking sides

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

oh my god this can't be true.

>>386625421
>i trusted in them how could they betray me

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>>386616446
FUCKING HELL WHY

WHY

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https://youtu.be/OR4jPtrDCLo

>loud disipointment

>>386625957
why doesn't valve just make an entire studio for DOTA while leaving the Seattle headquarters for original games?

>>386625993
get fucked nigger. It's more than Valve has done for you lately.

>>386625226
>Newfags saying they don't like half life
It's mostly oldfags saying it, the same who think the only two good FPS are Doom and Quake

whoever was the grill in charge of l4d left valve, and thus valve doesn't make games anymore

>>386625991
If it was something like Hands of Fate, I could see it work. A sort of hybrid between card game and action.
This won't be though. This will likely just be a typical card game. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE CARDS ARE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME
WOOOOOOWWWW

>>386625892
Why is The Orange Box there?

>>386625916
So no official information beyond rumour mongering and vague things that people interpret the way they want.

In effect, just crumbs for idiots to eat up and maintain interest.

>>386623959
Jesus, you´re are probably the most fucking retarded being i´ve ever encountered on this site in roughly 10 years.
and thats one hell of an accomplishment

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>>386620010

>so it's not taking away from the development of other games.

>other games

ALL DAY BRO

>>386625892
>5 entries for 2015
Only Source 2 should be listed. Steam VR is 2016.

>>386624850
Alien Swarm as a full game would actually be really nice. Even if they started make small, random games like Alien Swarm, I would also be happy. I just want something tangible from them.

>>386626090
That would mean spending money, time, work.
Why do it when you can sit back for an entire year and do nothing while still racking in millions weekly?

>>386626090
because flat, open structuring yadda yadda
can't lock down anyone to a single project

>>386623959
Dumb touhouposter