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>JRPG >church is evil >final boss is God

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>JRPG
>church is evil
>final boss is God
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what if the 'god' we know actually is a malicious entity?
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>>386611731
impossible, God is the one who defines morality
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Why are religions so easily triggered? Like why can't you draw Muhammad but it's totally okay for literally everyone to be named after him? Please don't blow me up, I'm just curious.
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>>386611608
But god is really evul
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Here we go again, another mad as fuck christfag cultist having an autistic shitfit that would make mudslimes blush.

Sad little cultist ran out of castlevania and blasphemous threads to shitpost.
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>>386612197
What a fucking cuck answer. So if god one day decided mankind had to be wiped out for some frivolous reason, the only correct response is to just bend over and let them do it? Because they obviously created everything and thus have the right to destroy everything for any reason?

Every single time that kind of logic has been paraded around, said god has been on the wrong side.
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>>386612610
they dont like idolatry and showing his picture would promote that kinda like Christians who keep framed pictures of Jesus or Mary
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>>386611608
>muh religion and politics
why do you even care? fag
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>>386611608
>the head of the church and "god" are both evil but for different reasons
>all the lower ranking members of the church are good guys or at least not pure evil
>"god" is actually a usurper (therefore closer to the devil) and the closest thing to god is actually good
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>>386611731
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Name 1 (one) game that does this
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>>386611608
>>386611731
>>386612197
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>>386613235
>So if god one day decided mankind had to be wiped out for some frivolous reason, the only correct response is to just bend over and let them do it?
Yes you stupid ningen. This is simple stuff, what do you not understand?
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>>386612197
Prove it.
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>>386611608
Daily reminder the based nips crucified the christians when they tried to use jew tier subversion tactics to colonize Japan.
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>>386617736
ff xiii
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>>386613235
>DUDE IF GOD KILLED PEOPLE IT'D BE BAD LMAO

what a fucking philistine cuck answer, kys
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>/v/
>anon
>Post the same thread
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>>386617650
Whoa mind blown. Was this written by Yoko Taro or Hideaki Anno?
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>>386617828
Damn... REALLY made me ponder
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>JPRG
>fight god
>his angels
>lucifer
>other assorted kings of hell
>some random mythological figures and fairy tale characters
>skeletons
>and a rag tag group of deities led by a Indian fucboi god featuring odin and budha
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>>386620848
>Stephen Hawking is more powerful than all of them
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>>386611608
Not that, but
>Good religion has good god
>Long time ago, good god fought bad god and bad god won
>No one remembers shit, except the the pope of good religion
>Secretly wants bad god to recover and be a part of bad god
>Lies to everyone about good god being dead
Grandia 2 was a great game.
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>>386611731
Dude Gnosticism lmao
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>>386611608
>JRPG
>technology is evil
>we must live like fucking peasants in shit and dirt
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>wrpg
>church is evil
>final boss is skeletor
>protagonist sounds like he just tipped his fedora on r/atheistm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NTeAk6Wq1E
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>>386617828
I feel the same way about Judas to be honest. Only person in all of Christianity to forgive him was Christ himself, yet our most celebrated Christians placed him the lowest circle of hell to be personally tortured by Satan forever.
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>>386623670
Did you miss the quest where geralt beats up a bunch of fedora type atheists.
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>>386611608
>jrpg
>church is evil
>final boss is God
>It is always some tentacled, misshapen monstrosity

There, added that.
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>>386623602
you one o dem al bhed, brudda?
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>>386623670
wow...so this is the power of...wrpgs
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>>386617736
One game, huh? Literally 90 percent of jrpgs do this.
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>>386623670
only the christian church is evil though, the muslims are enlightened scientists, just like it was in history
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>>386617650
the sheer lack of understanding of how Christianity works is astounding

must be by a protestant :^)
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>>386623704
And then you take St. Peter into contrast. The guy betrayed Jesus three times and Jesus knew. Was it the level of betrayal that made Judas a reviled figure and St. Peter basically Jesus's right hand man?
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>>386623779
I liked the al bhed
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>Game shows that there are both corrupted and pure people in a church, which is the norm
>People say the game is against religion based on the corrupted people
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>>386617650
would've been better if it was about how human sins doesn't get forgiven in life and every human faced a purgatory to achieve true forgiveness since no being exists without have done some evil.
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>>386624292
>all those threads when the Castlevania series on Netflix came out
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>>386623670
>geralt schools that priest so hard the random peasants start questioning their religion...

damn...that was powerful. Geralt is an inspiration to stand up for religious ignorance and biggotry
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>JRPG
>The Chuch is bro as fuck
>The clergy always try and make the city their church is in a better place and the priest listens to people's problems and gives advice
>Some of the people there give you healing items
>They have a badass secret taskforce that preach the holy book by day and hunt down dangerous criminals by night
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>>386611608
>jrpg
>god is final boss
>he's a giant disco ball
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>>386624680
what game?
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>>386623704
Read this

http://southerncrossreview.org/49/borges-judas-eng.htm
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>>386611608
What do you expect from a god who expects child sacrifice and the circumcision of everyone who isn't jewish?
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>>386623704
>>386623992

I don't want to get into a theological debate here.
But yes, it is true that Jesus was betrayed twice on the same night by two of his closest friends. Once by being sold out to the pharisees, and again by being denied and left for dead by a man who swore to follow him no matter what.

But the reaction by each of the two men set them apart. Judas repented, but imperfectly. He couldn't face up to his mistakes or come before God. He knew he sinned and in the face of that, chose to react with cowardice, and run from himself in the form of suicide. St Peter repented, and instead of giving in to despair, held on to his faith. If Judas is damned, he is damned by the actions after the betrayal, not the betrayal itself.

We see the two reactions played out over and over again throughout history when people betray God through sin. Some people sin, like the saints, sin and feel sorrow for it. But they are able to hold onto their faith. There are others, like the heretical priest, Martin Luther, who sin and feel sorrow, but, in their scrupulosity, the sorrow crushes them, and instead of coming to terms with it, they give in to a form of despair, saying they are all "born sinners" and "not justified by our works". They choose death instead of life in the face of their sinfulness.
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>>386624648
what game does this
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>>386621119
>Kill him too
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>>386625350
Trails in the Sky trilogy, Trails in Azure/ Zero and Trails of Cold Steel.

Trails in the Sky 3rd's protagonist is Father Kevin who is based as fuck.
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>>386626460
I'll give them a look and might get around to playing them, I've been looking for a jrpg to play
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>>386624436
can you get more reddit than that?
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You do know people created god right? We came up with that idea to unify each other through trying times, and like always we will either try to fit the mold that our ancestors made for us or convert it to match the current state of things. Over the years it just became cult like, and in recent times it has gone erratic thanks to the world wide web.
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>>386612610
Obligatory *tips*, but it wasn't always this way. There used to be religious people that could take a joke. But religion has fallen out of fashion in the west, all the religious people who could take a joke have moved on to being non religious now. The only people left are the idiots that get offended by everything since they're too dumb to be able to explain anything without using religion.
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>>386625214
>"I don't want to get into a theological debate here"
>Singles out Martin Luther as an evil heretic
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>>386623670
Poland is not western.
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>>386617736

Monster Girl Quest
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>>386626849
If you love lore and worldbuilding, you will love the games. NPCs constantly have new things to say as you progress through the game. Some even have their own goofy adventures they talk about over the course of the game, or even games.
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>>386611731
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spiritual atheists > OG christfags > atheists > agnostics > neo-christfags > mudslimes > militant atheists
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>>386625214
Why do you spend so much time studying fairy tales?
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>>386628960
>in this moment I am euphoric
>not because of intelligence, but because I am in contact with my inner self and respect all beliefs
It's not possible to be any more reddit than that
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>>386611608
Name 27 games that do this
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>>386628960
>people who believe sky wizards to be real above sane people
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>>386629157
to each their own interpretation, anon, even if that means you make yours off baseless assumption.
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>>386611608
I think the church bit is overplayed, but I always like killing god(s). The problem is making these gods interesting characters/antagonists and is especially an issue when a game goes the monotheistic omnipotent god route.
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>>386629271
such a reddit thing to say
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>>386629157
Most atheists aren't """"enlightened thinkers"""", they're edgy 14 year olds who don't respect their parents and/or cultural heritage enough to muster the effort of spending sunday morning at church
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>>386629242

>sane people

I guess China is the voice of reason
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>>386629157
>respecting all beliefs is fedoracore

This is why athiests hate religiousfags.
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>>386629650
China is full of spiritual protokikes who believe in ghosts and skeletons
It also has a sizable christkike population

China's "atheism" is like in soviet russia: it's atheism on paper, but everyone still prays to sky daddies
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>>386623910
The guy in the comic thinks he should have been saved because he was a good person. It's probably by some retard who grew up catholic
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>>386629495
>Net being a mindless sheep that devotes himself to something you don't believe in is edgy

Yeah, brainwashing a poor kid to believe in things you might not believe in, how "enlightened" of you. And this is coming from an actual Church goer. Don't force people to go to church, it's a fucking waste of time for everyone involved and can really end badly.
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>Not smoking salvia and meeting God yourself

The way to life is a lot simpler than you think, friends.
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>>386623910
Cuckstianity works as current speaker wants it to.
There is no consistent belief system in there, just a bunch of retards screaming over each other.
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>>386617650
TIPS
FEDORA
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>>386629894
I didn't say anyone should be forced, I'm saying teenagers who lack the integrity to attend (and are really fucking proud of it) grow up to be the lowest form of """"""""""human"""""""" life
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>>386630062
>not going to church means you have no integrity
>teenagers who dont go to church become human scum
i see its christfag back at it again.
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>>386611608
Final Fantasy Tactics thread? Final Fantasy Tactics thread.
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>>386630181
two out of those 3 statements are correct
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>>386629701
>respecting all beliefs
>except christianity
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>>386629495
>being so cucked that you have to spend time for no reason but to "show respect" for people who get upset if you don't.
How about you suck my dick on a daily basis, anon? It's part of the culture of my people. You better show respect.
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>>386630062
Ok, let me ask you this.

Give them one reason to go. Why should they devote themselves to something that doesn't interest them? What has religion done for their lives to deserve their prayers?

Outside of "hurr durr people who don't believe in religion are scum", what reason do you have for them to devote themselves just because you do?
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>>386630329
Atheists don't have culture lol
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You are now aware that 4chan is now a breeding ground for retarded hillbillies that actually believe in mystical invisible sky jews
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>>386611608
>real life
>church is evil
>god doesn't exist
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>>386630269
>all atheists are human scum
alright christfag.
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Why is it so hurtful that people aren't becoming willing slaves to the Church again? Has the Church invented a cure for cancer or something so they deserve mindless adoration from people not interested in religion? Or are they just hurt at all the people they can't collect donations and tithes from?
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>>386630359
because doing things you don't want to means you won't grow up to be a spoiled brat who screeches obscenities at people who disagree with them >>386630329
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>fedoras crawling out of the woodwork whenever atheism is insulted

I thought you guys had thick skin unlike the retarded christfags?
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>>386630591
You mean like in response to >>386629495
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>>386630443
>>386630591
Who said I'm atheist? What is culture and why is it necessary to participate in something to "show respect"? How does this make me spoiled? You are having the mindset of "If you're not with me, then you are against me." and forcing your beliefs on others. This is quite the opposite of respect.

I hope you are baiting you retarded mongoloid.
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>>386630550
>Has the Church invented a cure for cancer
Prayer
Christian Science has been proven to reliably cure cancer, hepatitis, diabetes, autism, rabies and kuru.
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>>386629650
China is the only the most """"atheist""""" country because rural folk religion don't count into the statistics.
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>>386630591
>because doing things you don't want to means you won't grow up

Religion isn't a necessity like a job, anon. don't equate it to something that we can't live without.
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>>386630550
think of the average person, now realise that half the population is even fucking stupider than that. now realise that the vast majority of America's population was raised on a belief where you will go to hell if you eat prawns and touch yourself, while your local pastor can fuck some little boys and has no repercussions for doing so. America's education system has done little to develop rational, critical and logical thinking within its children and it leads to cults, facebook soccer moms and donald trump being elected.
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>>386611608
Only jrpg I remember playing with the whole "church is evol!!1!!" was ff14, and everyone fucking suck SE's dick. No, I don't hate this "church evil" thing, their writing is fucking awful.
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>>386630591
>because doing things you don't want to means you won't grow up
>Equates practical things like exercise, education and work to something that doesn't actually physically benefit you
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>JRPG
>you force god into a human female form and dominate her in bed
Are there any games that let you do this?
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>>386630773
>ou are having the mindset of "If you're not with me, then you are against me." and forcing your beliefs on others. This is quite the opposite of respect.
Actually I'm fine with most atheists. I'm just stating they are a cultural black hole.
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>>386628960
>spiritual atheists

Kek. Literally the climax of fedora tipping.
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>>386631019
>I'm just stating they are a cultural black hole

Religion =/= Culture

You can be American without being a crazed fundamentalist or evangelist.
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>>386631098
>Religion =/= Culture
Ok? That doesn't make what I said untrue though
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>>386629198
Breath of Fire 2 is one.
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>>386631019
I assume you are not the person who made the initial post (>>386629495) then. I don't consider myself atheist and I have no interest in arguing about what atheists are or whatever. Just pointing out a flaw in that logic above.
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>>386631149
Religious Black Hole, sure, but unless you live in some 3rd world shithole where they rape women and then stone them to death and they have religious police, culture and religion are different things
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>>386631149
well you are equating religion to culture when you say that atheists have no culture, while christianity is counted as a culture. but religion is not equal to culture, you can have culture without being religious, so yes it does make what you said untrue.
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>>386628960
>Atheists above agnostics

Yes, because people who are just as preachy and intrenched in their beliefs as any other religious zealot, just on the other end of the spectrum are better than people who have enough common sense and humility to say "Nobody can know the truth."

If it turns out there's a sky wizard, some crazy cosmic panthon reminiscent of Lovecraft, or a super-advanced neckbeard who is running us as "Universe sim 31266" that he bought for dirt cheap on a higher-dimensional steam sale equivalent, then atheists will be just as stupid and wrong as every other organized or disorganized group of people who believe one way or the other.

And before some asshole says that atheism is about non-belief or lack of belief, bullshit. It's the proper definition to be sure, but find me an atheist that isn't just some fucking prick who insistently believes to a religious degree that there is no sort of creative force.
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>>386631261
>culture and religion are different things

Your religion dictates your culture though. They are one and the same.
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>Playing ancient jrpgs
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>family is Catholic
>got my baptism, confirmation the whole package
>too fucking lazy to go to my nearest church
>rather take a break on the weekends or work on my college projects and assignments, etc
>mom gave up on me ever going back there
>still like crusades memes

Any video games about the crusades on a meme level?
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>>386631304
Maybe it's where you live? I live in Asia and I'm Catholic, I have friends Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Tamil and Taoist. There is a Hokkien Temple and an Indian Temple without walking distance of my house. All of us consider ourselves citizens of the same country, our religions don't bother us one bit.
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>>386623670
Should be said that the Eternal Flame in the Witcher universe is more or less a sham religion, that started as a small cult of "lunatics" and then got MASSIVE secret financial support from the Nilfgaard Empire to destabilize the Northern kingdoms from the inside. And only recently did they get their influence even outside of Novigrad thanks to the religious zealot that is king Radovid.

In other words, the Eternal Flame is more like Scientology than Christianity.
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>>386631304
a millennium ago maybe. not anymore.
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>parents weren't religions so I wasn't
I went to bible study and church with a friend and didn't get anything out of it. When it was my turn out of the bible I was pronouncing things wrong and people were snickering.

I wanted to give it a chance but I just can't see myself believing in bible tales and angels no matter how hard I try. How do you bible people do it?
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>>386631304
>dictates
No
Influences, sure, influenceD rather, with some elements still remaining
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>>386624648
Man, I fucking love the Trails series.
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>>386631460
>who are the arabs
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>>386631304
This isn't the 1900s anymore.
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>>386631574
>literally every single civilisation in the entire fucking world is arab
grow a brain you prick
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>>386624436
man I love the fact that fags like this actually exist, a never ending source of entertainment
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>>386631481
read the new testament

the jewish testament reads like anime and is only good for background lore
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>>386624436
wtf. i didn't know tumblr shit was on reddit
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>>386631481
children dont know much about the world, so when you're told something as a child you accept it immediately. combine that with a christian upbringing and the american education system's incapability of developing critical thinking skills in its students and you have generations of morons who believe in the magical man in the sky.
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>>386631808
OBSESSED
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>>386611608
>WRPG
>Science and progress are evil
>Final boss is an atheist
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>>386631782
>old testament reads like anime and is only good for background lore

by the way how does that work? do you just disregard everything that came previously because it sounds funny now. how do you prove it wrong?
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>>386612610
Ten Commandments said in original form that you won't make statues or pictures of God, because the faith in God may change to faith in meaningless symbols. They just follow the Bible.
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>>386632014
>by the way how does that work? do you just disregard everything that came previously because it sounds funny now. how do you prove it wrong?

why do you think the new testament exists?
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>>386632014
religion must constantly rewrite its scripture in accordance with the passage of time because they are in the end (fictional) tellings made to appeal to an audience from 2000 years ago. you cannot expect the morals of someone from ancient civilisation to be the same as the morals of someone from ours, so they have to keep changing it otherwise nobody in their right mind would even consider following the religion at all.
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>>386632014
Jesus freed us from Jewish "law"
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How come only Japs can into Gnostic fiction when they have most likely never encountered or read anything about it. I can't think of a single Gnostic derivative work in the West that's accurate.
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>>386632014
Mosaic Law and Jesus' teachings contradict each other heavily.
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>>386632115
"""New""" Testament is a lie made by the false Messiah. You Christian niggers may deny the truth, but the Tanakh is the only true word of G-d.
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>>386632453
t.Isaac Shmekelmin
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>>386625214
fucking catholics man, st martin lurther was a true saint of god, and stood for the bible while your pedo priest bullshited the people out of money about some purgatory.

the bible out right tell you you that we are born and shape in inequity, and that your work dont justify you, cause you are save by grace.

when martin luther preach the just shall live by faith, he was preacher christ with all his heart.

dont bad mouth people who actually stood for Christianity.

comparing martin lurther to judas is alright insulting.
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>people are still LARPing as Christfags on 4chan
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>>386623670
lmao
Fedora tippers in the Middle Ages were guys who criticized the church for not doing enough to eliminate sorcery.
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>>386632520
It's the latest hip new meme. Someone calls your bluff tells you that you don't know shit or someone disagrees? Just post one of these.
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>>386632520
>LArping
>on 4chan
anon..
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>>386631443
Don't really know how the book lore works, but the parallels in Witcher 3 were pretty in your face. They even modeled the "pope" in Witcher 3 after that polish pope that stepped down. The game was seeping with contempt for catholics.

I miss when in Witcher 1 you could join forced with a knightly order to defend the city from elf terrorists.

Now the CDPR writers are faggots
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>religion
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>>386632539
The "father" spends all our tithe buying clothes for his horses, but he calls us heathens if we use that money buy a spellsword to hunt down necromancers. Shows where the church's real priorities lie, eh?
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>>386632014
The ancient Jews were the worst kind of people who needed to be beaten over the head with rules or they'd fuck anything and kill anyone. Jesus came along prepared to bring them a better, higher, law that was much more loose but more faithbuilding and they killed him for it. This is why the apostles spread the word among the gentiles (not Jews) because they were more civil. But some of them were corrupt and tried to corrupt the word which is why there's now thousands of Christian denominations. The best bet is to follow the religion that you feel is closest to the original teachings but most importantly live by your own beliefs, don't let anyone else try and shape you.
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>>386632520
>some LARPs as christians
>opposing force LARPs as atheists
>few serious people caught in the middle
I'm on /v/ alright
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>>386632809
Holy shit dude. You have to go back.
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>>386632741
Whoa nice comic :D
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>>386611608
>JRPG
>final boss is a wannabe god
>the real god just wants to go home
>true villain behind the final boss gets to go to said god's home, effectively ascending after ending most of the world
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>>386632741
Lmao

>>386632915
Why? What did he do?
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>>386633010
>What did he do?
Told the truth, just forgot to mention that Jews haven't changed since then and continue to use underhanded methods like government infiltration and chemical warfare to condone and carry out the slaughter of innocent s, like they have since the beginning of time
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>>386632018

thats actually logical as fuck, its funny that said view's been distorted zealously
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>>386632809
>don't let anyone else try and shape you.
>while speaking about believing a religion
really tingles the brain cells
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>>386628357
this
we're sarmatians
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>>386632018
Does that extend to crosses and statues of Jesus?
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>>386633097
I was referring to the bluntness of ancient Jews whereas now they're much more subtle about it to the point of most people claiming you're a nut for even suggesting the Jews are corrupt (especially after WW2)
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>>386632453
>be chosenite
>ignore most of God's word
>stroke mutilated dick to the Talmud
I wonder if this kind of thing is why the Lord repeatedly tossed your asses out of the land
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>>386633107
Not everyone in the world is a crazy ass religious zealot that is out to skullfuck you for not believing what they do. It just so happens there's a metric fuckton of them and there's enough power bases involving them to become armed militias and terrorist groups strongarming others under their banner, among other factors, that cause more hate towards religion in general.
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>>386633136
WE WUZ NOBLES AND SHIEEEEEE
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>>386633192
Yes, statues I've seen be mostly okay since like any statue they're usually in honor of something (veterans, local hero, gods, etc.) but the cross is the most obvious perversion of that commandment. People pray to the cross and cross themselves as well as wearing and tattooing crosses on their bodies. They celebrate the death of Christ but the part we're supposed to be celebrating is his triumph over death and what that means for us.
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>>386631398
Kevin is based and quite salty.
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>>386633407
exactly
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>>386633192
The specific commandment he is referring to is the one pertaining to idolatry, or graven images. But Christians have understood this to mean "false idols" hence the meaning of god being jealous god. Protestant sects used to accuse Catholics of idolatry, but they don't do that much anymore.
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>>386632520
>LARP
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>>386625214
>heretical priest, Martin Luther
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>>386611608
>JRPG
>Gods
It's a misinterpretation, imho. Gods are rather spirits in Jap mythology. There are countless gods, so having one as the main boss is possible.

Just think about the movie, Spirited Away. They are basically running an inn for gods.

It's also my favorite JRPG meme.
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>>386617736
SMT II and SMT IV
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>>386628645
>YHVH
>evil
You are very mistaken, son of man.
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>>386629896
DUDE WEED BRO
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>>386611608
>American game
>church is good
>final boss is a white male
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>>386635254
>american game
>halfway in, less than 50% of characters are white
>it only gets less white from there
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>JRPG
>church is good
>one of the coolest characters of the entire franchise is a priest
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>>386631017
In Monster Girl Quest you can be raped by God
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>>386611608
>Final boss is robo-space-pope
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>>386612197
What a faggit. God makes you to have your own opinions and then tells you you should allways follow his. That doesnt sound like a god it sounds like a dictator.
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>WRPG
>jews are the good guys
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>>386636125
Would you rather have it that the concept of good and evil does not exist and thus a way more fucked up world?
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>>386635502
>America
>White
lol
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>>386636464
Or people have a natural concept of good and evil, you know just like in real life?
>BU-BUT PEOPLE DONT!
It would be a horrible survival trait to not work together with your fellow humans. That is why we evolved morality.
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>>386636464
It doesn't matter what I "would rather have it" because my preferences don't matter in a logical debate.

He was just pointing out that God is supposed to be great according to Christians but if you follow their descriptions of him, he's just a giant dick head.
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>>386636125
>Be God
>Give humans free will
>They have sex before marriage
>No! Not like that
Its why I dont believe in any religion. None of them make sense, I will never know for sure if god is real or fake or if there is 1 or a billion of them. I will just try to be the best person I can without theology.
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>>386624648
>>
>Atheism claims there is no god
>there fore atheists are right and following the truth

>Religion claim there is something
>therefore religious are right and following the truth

How fucking suspicious that religion and science both put a system they are correct about morality and everything. Never I saw a system that claimed god is aginst us or that claim it could be wrong.
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>>386624721
SMT Nocturne i think
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>>386637130

He also allegedly made man perfect yet demands they cut a part of their penis off for some reason
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>>386636654
>natural concept of good and evil,
They don't, there is a concept of that only in the sense of what they consider good and bad for them. Objective morality does not exist unless God says it does
>It would be a horrible survival trait to not work together with your fellow humans. That is why we evolved morality.
Yes but in ancient times you think ideas like do not murder, steal or commit adultery were defined like today? People can commit the most depraved shit even nowadays, now imagine how it was before

>>386636816
>is supposed to be great according to Christians but if you follow their descriptions of him, he's just a giant dick head.
Show me an example of this
>>
>JRPG
>The church is good
>the protagonist is a priest
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>>386637130
>>No! Not like that
Because there is right and there is wrong, I don't see how that is hard to understand
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>>386637597
>Show me an example of this
Not him, but
>humans turn your home into a shithole because God gave them free will to do so and does nothing to stop them
>instead he just nukes your whole city because other people fucked it up
>then he forces you to leave your home and never look back
>you look back once and he turns you into salt because fuck you for being 99% loyal to me, you need to be 101% loyal or you're going to hell faggot
>>
>>386611608
They are pagans, they rejected christianity and killed many japanese christians so they are trying to rationalize that.
Also they were already punished for it (twice)
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>>386634543
This.
Japs don't understand the abrahamic concept of an omnipotent god, to them he's just the most powerfull character with flaws, in othe words they are pagans.
>>
If you are christian just kill yourself, you are going to hell anyway
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>>386611608
>2017
>Being a lawfag
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>>386638013
Mad chaosfag detected
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>>386637874
>*BUURRRRP* God's not real Morty
>the redditor begins to chuckle
>L-life is pointless Morty, your *URP* parents are fucking idiots
>the redditor laughs out loud, spewing Cheetoh crumbs all over his desk
>W-wake up fucking sheeple, everybody is an idiot but me
>the redditor can hardly contain his full bellied laughter as chortles begin to fill the room
>WUBALABADUBDUB POOPY DOOP FUCK SHIT
>The redditor starts convulsing on the floor, gasping for air between spasms of laughter
>mmmm get schwifty
>the redditor's heart explodes and he dies
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>>386637597
>Yes but in ancient times you think ideas like do not murder, steal or commit adultery were defined like today? People can commit the most depraved shit even nowadays, now imagine how it was before
The difference isn't definition, it's the fact that we have better tools to convict and persecute. Why do you think piracy is so rampant even though our laws clearly state it's a crime? It's becuase people can easily get away with it.
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>>386637647
Whats wrong about sex before marriage? Like what is morally wrong about it? Because there is a chance you make a child? Because you might not love each other for ever? But that chance is also real if you marry. Its only "wrong" because god said so
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>demons are the good ones
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>>386637597
>People dont have a natural concept of evil lel
>People in the stone age didnt murder, torture and sacrifice childeren lel
People do have a natural concept of good and evil because every culture, even the ones where everyone goes to hell anyways like the Aztecs and Mayans, punish murder without cause. Every culture no matter how different their religion punishes murder, stealing and adultery, even when their gods didnt give a single shit about humans. Its because humans know that murdering people they trust and need is not beneficial.
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>>386638662
>Its only "wrong" because god said so
Yes that is so
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>>386639343
So, god is a dictator and gets to decide everything. Then why give us free will in the first place? To see if we make the wrong choices? If he is omnipotent and omniscient wouldnt he know allready?
Basiclly religion is illogical.
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>>386639442
Well if you really want to know then actually go out of your way to look for those answers instead of fucking around on /v/ in a dead thread
Personally I don't find religion to be illogical at all in this sense
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>>386639738
Dont assume I havent looked my self
All religions seems illogical to me. I'm not saying there isnt a god because I will never know fore sure, hell maybe there are a billion gods but I am 100% sure all current religions are not the correct one. I personally believe that everyone should just try to be the best person they could be. There will allways be evil people in the word but to me, those people are just fucked in the head because they lack what all humans should have. A natural concept of good and evil
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stupid western gaijin always need superjesus to save them. The only person who is going to save you is yourself
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>>386640121
*tips bushy stache*
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>God is a cute loli
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>>386633521
>They celebrate the death of Christ but the part we're supposed to be celebrating is his triumph over death and what that means for us.

That's the weirdest part about it. When you're entire religion uses an instrument of death as its icon, surely you'd wonder what's up. But no, people think of the cross itself as holy. But it's kind of badass that someone would choose to symbolize their religion with the device that killed their demi-god.
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>>386623887
>implying Christian monks didn't hide important body of knowledge during the Dark ages
>implying the Catholic Churches doesn't approve of scientific facts once it's proven through repeated process
>implying the Pope wasn't correct in publicly shunning some astronomer for passing a theory that doesn't have enough concrete evidence during his time
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>>386638985
dumb satania______
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>>386611608
>JRPG
>church is good
>final boss is God
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>>386641741
stop that
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>>386617650
I hate GAF so much
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>>386617650
Wow so edgy.
>REEEEEEEE MOM WHY I HAVE TO GO TO CHURCH AGAIN?
>I GET IT THE GOD IS THE REAL ENEMY IM SO EUPHORIC AND ENLIGHTENED NOW
where is your fucking fedora?
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>>386641873
>JRPG
>tell the church and the demons to go fuck themselves
>the best path is sending everything into oblivion
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>>386641957
s-sorry.
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>>386631594
how unfortunate
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>WRPG
>Church is good
>God is good
>Final boss is not god
> You kill the fucker anyway
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