Post deepest lore

>>386603915
Neat

>>386603915
Huh, interesting stuff there

>>386603915
Porn wen?

I want to FUCK that toad

>>386607167
hit me up with a request

>>386609424
Koops

>>386609424
>>386609365
>>386607167
"That's the waitress of the Excess Express. Kinda spacey. Think she's an OK waitress? Probably not... but guys always go for girls like this, don't they? Why is that, Mario?"

Holy crap, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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>>386603915
So, in Sonic Chaos, there is a zone called "Mecha Green Hill" that looks like a mechanized Green Hill Zone (as you could guess by the name). This is not a reproduction: The manuals for the Master System and Japanese Game Gear version imply that the zone is the original Green Hill turned robotic. The music is even a remix of "Green Hills" zone from 8-bit Sonic 2.

https://youtu.be/a1LJPaYA60Y
https://youtu.be/MBgCuXy8T7s

Additionally, due to time constraints, Act 3 of Scrap Brain in Sonic 1 has a recolored Labyrinth theme. Coincidentally, the 8-bit version of Sonic 1 shows that Scrap Brain is right on top of Labyrinth on the map and zone order.

>>386610001
More evidence for this is the Sonic 1 Medley, which plays the stages in order sans Labyrinth Zone.

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>>386603915

>>386610001
Another note is the Sonic Advance trilogy: In SA1 and SA2, Eggman is capturing animals to put into capsules, with SA2 in particular having a focus on it (Eggman kidnaps Sonic's friends, his final machine is designed specifically to suck up animals). In SA3, the robots are instead powered by rings, which could explain why there was such a focus.

>>386610126
In that case, it's moreso because Labyrinth was originally meant to be the second zone in Sonic 1, but got moved because it was too hard.

>>386603915
Not sure if this already commonly known or not, but if you enter the Shadow Palace throne room for the first time with Vivian out, she'll comment that the throne room looks familiar.

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>>386610415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgIzBmbI-zQ

Spongebob reference?

>>386610580
Waluigi's amiibo description implies that he has been spying on Luigi prior to his first appearance in Mario Tennis.

The Mario & Sonic At the Olympic Games series hints that Bowser Jr. has issues with being taken seriously or looked down upon because he's still a kid.

Unlike Peach, Daisy has mentioned her parents (her father specifically) in Mario Party 3 and Fortune Street.

>>386610928
Well Spongebob has 2 Os in it so I would consider it a JoJo reference

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>>386610786
In the original Japanese version of the game and some translations, Vivian is depicted as transgender, identifying as female but, due to the age rating the localizers were aiming at when translating Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, this is lost in the English version and she is described only with feminine pronouns.

>>386611274
I go with western canon so Vivian is NOT a trap and will always be waifu.

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>>386611003
To go back to Sonic:

Internal documents for Sonic 06 note a few interesting things about Blaze: She once wore a cape that apparently controlled her fire powers and she is not secure with her breast size (or lack-thereof) and talking about it makes her furious.

On a related note, Dr. Eggman Nega's Sonic Rivals backstory (where he is Eggman's descendent) is canon, as is Blaze's Rush backstory (Where she is from another dimension) apparently, the reason Blaze didn't recognize anyone (and possibly vice-versa) is due to amnesia. This could be backed up by how Blaze echos Silver's comment about a blue hedgehog after his vision.

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Anyone else have the insistent need to check on NPCs as you progress through a game's story, like Paper Mario for example. After each chapter I always check on a lot of NPCs and things at Rogueport like the dysfunctional family at Eastern Rogueport, the billboard, Don Pianto, the rich Koopa, etc. Also helps that the merchant guy, and badge shop changes what deals they're selling at different times.

>>386611491
>Not accepting Vivian regardless of his/her gender

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>>386611491
"I am not going to listen to the truth. I will continue being ignorant."

Your waifu is a trans, anon.

A trans.

>>386611704
The only good Obama

>>386611274
>transgender
I don't think Vivian is transgender in japanese, he just crossdresses, right? I seriously doubt there'd be an actual transgender character in a 2004 Mario game.

>>386611603
I appreciate it, but I'm too lazy. Isn't that family on western Rogueport, though? The dad is a shut-in that can't write and the mom throws her days away in the parlor.

>>386611932
Look it up.

Vivian is a tran anon.

A TRAN.

Paper mario was way ahead of its time in so many things, especially the dialogue in with the crows in Twilight Town or whatever it was called.

>>386611603
>Anyone else have the insistent need to check on NPCs as you progress through a game's story
i did this in monster hunter 4u

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>>386611274
Can we not, for one thread?

>>386612005
Oh shit, whoops, yeah you're right. Eastern Rogueport is where all of the poorer people live at.

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Dry Bowser's actually a fake used by Bowser to con Mario into thinking he killed him, thus catching Mario off guard when his fake comes back to attack Mario later in the game.

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>>386603915
Fuck, I thought I knew everything about this game by now. Here, this isn't lore but it's a neat thing you can do after completing the Excess Express chapter. Just jump toward the door & for 1 frame you can go in it again like in the chapter.

>>386611492
King Dedede in Revenge of The King is basically a parody of Meta Knight, even going as far as to offer Kirby a hammer before they fight. The only exception is his mask which, as the current director of the series points out, is modeled more after Dark Mind, the final boss of Kirby and The Amazing Mirror. This is made especially explicit in Team Kirby Clash Deluxe, where King D-Mind is a shadow version of Masked Dedede, except his mask is almost exactly the same as Dark Mind's (who also shows up in the boss fight, functioning similarly to Dark Matter). It is said that it is unknown where Dedede found the mask.

Dark Nebula's Japanese name is "Dark Zero", implying it could have a connection to Zero, the final boss of Dream Land 3 and the core/Boss of the Dark Matter. Additionally, Dark Nebula's eye more closely resembles Zero/Zero Two (the entire eye is colored, whereas all the other Dark Matter have only colored a iris) and when it dies, its eye is the only part that explodes.

>>386612370
Not sure about other games, but Bowser is explicitly revived from his dry form in the original New Super Mario Bros.

I went into a slight state depression when I replayed the game and couldn't figure out the puzzle with the mario and luigi stones on the island but easily did when I was little

>>386612457
Oh, cool. I didn't know this had a widescreen hack.

>>386612629
dolphin can widescreen anything

The X in X-naut is pronounced "cross"
They are naughts and crosses, playing a tic tac toe game with mario using the star peices, which essentially ends in a tie.

This also makes TEC-XX be TEC-doublecross

>>386612457
Is Gombella's area tattle the same when you're on top of the train, as in would she still comment on they're being smorgs?

>tfw the paper marios are the only games with a likable bowser

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Both Sonic 1 and CD show a transition from Nature to the Industry but Labyrinth got moved from early on in the game for being too difficult.

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>>386612564
Nigger, Bowser's survived falling into lava multiple times and other shit that would be more dangerous, plus look at them. Don't you see any differences?
>Different eye socket shape
>Dry Bowser has a beak, Bowser does not
>Hair in a ponytail, Bowser doesn't do that
>Different brace color
Plus, it's just guessing, but the Mario & Luigi games seem to do a thing with the bosses. First the secret boss was a tougher version of Bowser, then Bowser Jr., then Dry Bowser. Why would they want you to think Dry Bowser's stronger when the final boss is Bowser and Paper Bowser fused?

>>386612737
There are five Mario & Luigi games, anon.

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>>386612825
no

>>386610207
Summerfag

>>386612804
Why don't Koopa Troopas turn into Dry Bones when you kick them into lava?

>>386612937
stop, do I have to post *THAT* image?

>>386613054
Because their bodies are too weak to climb out of the lava that fast.

>>386612694
>Tec double crossed the xnauts

Deepest lore

>>386612767
CD's zones were also meant to parallel Sonic 1's zones. Part of the evidence for Sonic CD's "Round 2" being a ruins level is the lack of Marble Zone equivalent (the only Sonic 1 zone not to have one)

>>386612804
>Different eye socket shape
Because Bowser's head no longer has skin.

>Dry Bowser has a beak, Bowser does not
Probably hidden under his flesh. It makes biological sense and partially explains why the average Koopa has a turtle's beak, but Bowser and his kind have an ox-ish face.

>Hair in a ponytail, Bowser doesn't do that
He did it when he was a child.

>Different brace color
Scorched by the lava?

>Secret Boss
possibly non-canon considering that, stat-wise, Bowser Jr. is stronger than Dreamy Bowser.

We see him fall into the lava, come back up as Dry Bowser and later, when Bowser Jr. throws his father's remains in the pot, Bowser returns as his normal form. His lava resistance failed because the plot demanded it.

>>386612737
>Dissing M&L Bowser, Mario Party Bowser and 3D World Bowser.
Nah.

>>386603915
Interesting to know. I'll have to talk to him next time I play. He's dumb for passing on her. She's pretty cute. The Excess Express is such a comfy chapter. I always look forward to it whenever I replay the game.

>>386610786
Shouldn't Vivian have, like, told Mario and co about the Shadow Queen?
Or was Beldam the only one who actually knew out of the sisters?
But then why would the throne room be familiar to Vivian?

>>386613464
It's likely Beldam was the only one who knew what was going on and people tend to have memories of their past when they're young but not really know the context of some things.

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>>386612708
Yes it is.

>>386613464
She could've been small when she was there, and Beldam would've been the one who remembered

>>386612694
Man I've seen debates about this going back years. The tattle description for the X-Yux enemy flat out says it should be pronounced "Cross Yux", not "Ecks Yux". But in the very beginning of Chapter 2 when you first learn of X-nauts, if you have Koops out then he makes a joke about how the name sounds like a tissue brand (Ex-Snot). So different people in the localization team were definitely pronouncing it different ways.

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What the fuck was up with the sky?

>>386613080
Idk, do you

After calling them Ecks-nauts my entire life I refuse to change

then again I used to call rogueport row-gyew-port when I first played the game

>>386613753
Clearly, you're meant to arrive in a dark, foggy night.

Daily reminder that after defeating King Whomp, he gets turned into a tower, explaining why a tower suddenly appears when you do the next few stars.

>>386613808
>rogueport row-gyew-port
I actually hate you so much.

>>386613808
You're just like me whenever I see Vivian and her red dots. Still to this day I find it hard to see her red dots as to be blushed cheeks instead of eyes.

>>386614014
I always thought her curl was a nose.

>>386614014
I just looked at a picture for reference now all I see is a smushed derp face

>>386611603
How old is Bow supposed to be?
For some reason when I was a kid I thought she was, like, a milf ghost and was like 35
But then I saw some art of her as a loli and noticed her saying something to the effect of "I'm not a kid any more" and my headcanon changed to thinking she's like 14 or so

>>386614207
She's definitely a young Ojou-sama, it's just hard to picture that with her boo design.

>>386611932
>he just crossdresses, right?
Correct.

>>386612067
>>386614387
So what is the truth?

>>386612457
That's pretty neato. Here's another designer oversight regarding the Excess Express. After you pull into Rogueport from a trip back from Poshley Heights(like coming back from Chapter 6, for example), go back inside the Excess Express without leaving the screen. The layout is normal, except the room the train is controlled from in front and the storage area in back have been swapped and the panel concealing a star piece in the control room is nowhere to be found. This is in contrast to the rest of the cabins being the same, so the storage room is now next to room 1. Nobody in-game comments on this.

>>386614491
>>386612067
>>386611932
Obviously this hasn't been settled either way, do you really think the games would go into explicit enough detail to specify whether Vivian is just crossdressing or is a post-op tranny?
Given the fact that she's a Japanese character and they love them some traps, and I can't imagine what sort of doctor a secretive dying race would go to get their dick chopped off, he's probably just crossdressing.

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>>386614491
>キュートな オトコのコ (Cute boy)

>>386614687
As bonus bit of info when I was taking screenshots for >>386613621 I was trying to do the door trick as seen in the webm on the opposite side since I originally took the ride on the way back from Poshley Heights and you can't do it, the ! that goes over the door doesn't even pop-up, I don't think there's even a door programmed there.

>>386614805
>>386614952
I stand corrected, "Otokonoko" written in katakana like that pretty unambiguously means crossdresser

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>>386611603
nigga get that fucking pickle out of there
pic related

>>386614207
I imagine her in her early twenties.

>>386615304
Oh shit, I actually never saw that.