Grimoire thread: Latest Patch bricks your game

He just forgot to have the game create a save folder. Just download the last stable patch. Copy this into steam console and drag to grimwah folder.

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>>386590327
The idiot should've just released it as an early-access title or released it only to backers as a beta first so that all bugs could be caught, as it's simply statistically improbable for one man to catch all bugs in an autistically intricate game like this.
He dug his own grave by not having large pool of testers.

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>Each new patch breaks something else
>Manual supposed to come out on Monday, still nothing
>Terrible inventory management
>Shitty UI in general
>Annoying sound effects
>Mediocre generic writing
>Looks like shit, not even taking into account the many different artstyles clashing against each other
>Holy fuck those portraits
>Unbalanced combat
>Bugged up the asshole
T W E N T Y
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Y E A R S

no it doesn't it just changed save location

Cleve moved the location of save, library and config files to "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\GRIMOIRE" , but apparently didn't set the game to create that folder.

>>386590642
>Having to download the last stable patch just to fix the shit that the patch fucked up.
Great game fuckhead.

>>386590642
>He just forgot to have the game create a save folder.

Top kek. Please don't tell me Cleve is this incompetent. How in the hell does he maintain stable employment as a programmer? Someone is apparently hiring him because his linkedin shows he hasn't gone longer than 2 months without being contracted.

>>386590878
Cleve is basically John K. or George Lucas, but without the talent to warrant the ego.

Basically, without someone sitting over his shoulder to smack him upside the head for being stupid, he'll just end up digging himself deeper and deeper into the grave until he loses all credibility.

Wew, I'm coming back later. Seems the GOONS and SJWs have organized and are swarming here in mass.

>everyone keeps saying 20 years
>actually 23 because he started development in 1994

>>386591337
We'll still be talking about how Cleve fucked up his own game though, so you might as well stick around and develop some thicker skin.

>>386591337
>This delusion
Mocking Cleve has always been the fun part of Grimoire threads. That's why these threads existed months ago.

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>>386590327
Can anyone confirm if this is real? It sounds too good to be true and Cleve claimed it was bullshit, but you never know:

>The story. Here is where the fun is. If I did not know about Cleve's proclivity towards racism, I would not think anything of it except that sometimes the writing is bombastic and over the top...and in other places just plain ludicrous. Overall the writing is not too bad, though. The story focuses rather heavily on the Star Child. The Star Child is the last vestige of the Old Race. As you go through the game, you learn about a great war between the Old Race and the animal-like races that are like half man half dog, etc. Before the Star Child is found, you need to find and prepare an Old Race base and its robotic defenses (til then the game was purely magic based) to fight off the hordes of evil halfhuman races(especially the half gorillas who are the most vile of them all!!!). They don't come out and say halfhuman, but that's basically what it is. Then, you have a bunch of choices, but the 'good' choice is you bring the Star Child back and he will lead the way into a new and glorious future, and will give your characters superhuman Old Race powers by turning them into full humans (again it doesn't say this but this is what's implied).

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/i-have-decided-to-violate-my-grimoire-nda-ask-me-anything.7632/

What kind of programmer works for 20 years on the same thing without creating an automated quicktest?

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>>386591021
>George Lucas
>talent

>>386591471
>>386591475
Yeah, n-no one likes this game made by a fascistic shitlord my fellow channers.
t. goons

>>386591565
Lucas has an issue with execution, not concept.

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HOLY JESUS....

WHAT IS THAT?

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?

>>386591562
The incompetent kind.

>>386590327
>Added Neanderthal class. To unlock this you must obtain a perfect bonus roll and you cannot be a sape.

>>386591601
People probably would like the game...if they could play it.

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>>386591562
The Neanderthal kind of programmer
>Doubting based Cleve's god programming s kills

>>386591707
?BAD DESIGN?

>>386591646
Concept is easy for him, since he just lifts from better auteurs

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What's the answer /v/?

>>386591832
A stream or some shit

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>Cleve moved the location of save, library and config files to "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\GRIMOIRE" , but apparently didn't set the game to create that folder.

>Go into the path above, create a "Grimoire" folder and copy the above files into it. It will run just fine.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*breathes in*

PFFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>386591832
cry me a ...

>>386591832
River.

>>386591832
The river can be said to talk as it does murmur. Bad

>>386591562
what the fuck is a quicktest ? If you are referring to Unit Testing, sure. But thats typically easily done with a modern OOP style (like JUnit for example) which some people don't like.

>>386591707
Looks like a gelatinous cube with some stuff stuck in it. So, basically a DnD monster. Very original.

>>386591707
Gelatinous Cube DnD 1/2e style.

Almost straight out of the Monster Manual only it's in colour.

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REMEMBER:
NO CRITICISM ALLOWED IN THIS GAME FORUM
THIS IS A FORUM EXCLUSIVELY TO PRAISE ME

>>386592268
What was you expecting? An anus monster? A penisosaurus?

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>>386591960
>>386592048

>>386592408
would be an improvement desu

>>386592447
Hah, things don't go her way and she throws a hissy fit. How typical of a woman.

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>>386592404
>This isn't Reddit
>Proceeds to treat his steam community discussion as a sub-reddit
Really gets the noggin joggin

>>386591832
The answer is Cleve.

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>>386592404

>>386590815
my save file is fucked and my library just returns to library when you click it...

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>When it's so easy to pirate your game, that your fans do it by accident

How do I open the door that just past where you use the stepping stones?

>>386591832
>Always runs never walks
A nigger with your TV
>Often murmurs never talks
He never got proper education and noone understands him
>Has a bed but never sleeps
The bed is for hiding KFC and dollars in the madrass not wasting potential TV stealing hours.
>A mouth but never eats
He can't afford food all money goes to crack.

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>>386592879
KEK

>>386592879
nice. saved.

>>386592879
>/s/jie0msl0hl2d1gp/thiefs-grimoire.zip
for people too lazy to type it out

>>386591969

Had to open AppData Folder (Something that I bet 90% of Steam users don't know how to do.) just to fix the game.

What the hell.

>>386593660
why bother is the previous fucked .1207 version

>>386593660
So it turns out I'm not even willing to pay nothing for this game. Maybe if Cleve paid me I'd think about it. It would have to be a good sum though, not pennies.

>>386592879
And this was in response to him asking people to send him their binaries so he could make a 'massive hack' to fix the broken saves.

>>386590327
someone should respond with
>Thank You Cleve. We are all depending on you. no pressure.

OP last time you posted this those autistic fucks got your steam profile

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Why haven't you revived your waifu yet?

>>386591565
>THX 1138
>Star Wars IV
>American Graffiti
>Raiders of the Lost Ark
>Last Crusade

All of which he written. While his directing isn't the best, and he's made bad movies like Crystal Skull and AotC (Spielberg is coming back to collaborate on the story for the fifth Indiana Jones despite the story being the worst aspect of the Crystal Skull), it's evidenced that he has some writing talent.

I don't think Cleve is particularly talented as evidenced by twenty years and can't competently patch a game, enthusiastic maybe. Cleve at least shows or fronts that he cares about his product, whether that's disdain over Wizardry or genuine affection for what he's made.

>>386591832
your mother's a whore

>>386594405
Wew, stop humilating yourself with your shit taste you stupid goon.

>>386594393
She exists in shit game so I thought it kinder to let her stay dead.

>>386594393
>Not casting True Resurrection on Hathor Sogg with a level 14 Cleric.

It's like you don't want a level 34 Necromancer with max stats and skills and every spell in the game.

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>>386594567
What are you some kinda beta

>>386594405
It's pretty obvious from the way he responds to streams and goes spaghetti when people show an interest that it's genuine affection. It's the only reason I haven't started abusing him until he bans me on the steam discussions. He's incompetent as all shit and too proud to bring anyone else on or let anyone help him, but he's actually passionate about his creation, and vidya needs more of that.

>>386590327
>career

>>386592447
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>386592404
This guy is such a snotty little bitch. He'd 100% wail and turtle up in a corner in a real confrontation.

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What the Hell!

DO I have to Pirate the Game Just to Play it now? What the Hell Happened?

Did I waste my 36 $

>>386591832

LOL this looks like shit. The fuck?

>>386590327
did people actually have expectations for this game or am I falling for the meme

or is the meme that we pretend we had expectations so we can make this guy feel worse

Somebody post the newest version

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>>386592404
>Going from neanderthal to whiny bitch in 0.0000052 seconds

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>>386592879
Holy fuck, this nigga!

>>386594757
There's a difference between passion and autistic obsession.

>>386594983
>Did I waste my 36 $
Yes, take it as a learning experience and never buy a game at launch from this point forward.

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>>386590327
>IM THE BEST IN THE WORLD
>Game is filled to the brim with bugs
>Each patch is incompatible with savegames from the previous version
>Players are caught in a loop of advancing then having to start all over again

So I guess thats what he meant when he said 600 hours of gameplay.

>>386590327
Finally caught up with myself in Grimoire, and got past where I got stuck.
Took a few hours. Quicker this time round and started in a better starting place to level quicker.

Just beat ol Mumra (The guardian), The Snek (yeah I did it in that order for some reason this time), and took out the bandit minibosses in the opening areas.

So I have to push onwards through the village now. Much better equipped this time, skillwise and item wise.
(Status effect spells and debuff spells are a must early on. Instruments are pretty OP. Only used them in the mummy boss to make the game a bit fairer since you blitz through MP in this game, even with 4 spellcasters)

>>386590327
Can any melonheads confirm if followers that you recruit end up leaving later? I've been putting off hiring Lil Rosy and the scribe sape for that very reason. I don't want to have to fire any party member I made if the fairy loli will just end up leaving mid way through the game.

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>>386594983
Maybe you missed it, but anons advised again and again against buying it. The small minority (prolific samefag) that supports the game blindly should be ridiculed or avoided, never trusted. Their posts are redundant and easy to spot often including:

>Sape (negative)
>Thal (positive)
>Incline
>Blobber
>The spelling "Grimwah"
>Pressuring to purchase of Grimoire
>Contempt for the pirating of Grimoire
>insults, slurs directed to someone named Andrew

They argue poorly as well, when faced with logic they'll adopt a veteran gamer stance and insist their opponent is better suited playing games generally regarded as casual, i.e. "Go back to Skyrim, kid."

Bottom of the barrel shitposts from a rookie angler. Enjoy the thread.

>>386591707
>Hawkeye's face is the perfect reaction to the monster.

He's seen a lot of shit in his life.

>>386590327
This guy is a retard.

fuuuuuuuuuuuck how do i res an aeorb?!?

>>386597442
Imagine being THIS retarded and butthurt.

>>386591707
It's a crypt cleaner

and it's coming to clean you

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wew this lich dungeon goes on forever and ever. I fell down a pit after performing a satanic ritual and had to fight a spider demon lady and the more I look for an exit the deeper I go. I've been exploring this place for like 3 hours now and all kinds of crazy shit keeps happening. I stumbled through absolute darkness in a maze full of poison traps that kill your whole party in like 3 turns to get some ore which I broke down into magic stones which I used to make a magic bridge which I used to cross a giant chasm and now I'm in some evil place that existed before sunlight apparently.

>>386597578
Anyone who buys the game now is retarded. There's no benefit to sinking money into a product that bricks itself every few days because the dev is truly THAT incompetent.

>>386592362
>more stolen assets

>>386597442

Ya I bought the Game because someone Said that "If you enjoyed Wizardry type games should should buy it and support to the genre"

I bought the game without realizing that I would have to restart every time an update comes out.

I might Pirate a version of the game just so I won't have to deal with updates anymore.

Personal I think I had more fun Playing Wizardry 8 than this game.

>>386597578
>using retarded inappropriately in attempts to cause injury

This should be added to the list

>>386597850
>I might Pirate a version of the game just so I won't have to deal with updates anymore.
>>386590642
Read.

>>386597850
>leddit spaceing

is the new tactice? from the game is "total shit" to "its somewhat good just not for me and my money"? SAPES NOT EVEN ONCE

Has anyone uploaded 1.2.0.8 and did he fuck up anything else in this version outside of the save folder thing or should I stick to an older version?

>>386597980
just use .5

>>386591337
>>386591601
The dumbass was working on the fucking game for more than 20 years it should not be failing this hard.

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1/5 of the world explored. Also Waterport is freaking huge, there's 4-5 different places i can go through in this city.

>>386597571
doesn't animate dead work?

>>386597119
Silly frogposter, the shitposting is the gameplay.

>>386592576
So Cleve is a woman?

>>386597442
This guy gets it, RPGCodex shills need to be removed asap

>>386597962
>Leddit spacing
>Poor spelling
>Poor grammar
Thals, not even once.

>>386598090
Aren't you the retard playing on novice?

>>386597962

>leddit spaceing
It's really more Youtube comment spacing than anything else.

>>386597980
Seems to be working much better for me at least.
No more random crashing when doing things with characters so far.
I've only gotten as far as the town though.

>>386598090
i think you are the furthest in the game dude, how many hours played?

>>386598141
>RPGCodex shills
Codex is just a bunch of oldfags from /v/. Are you retarded?

>>386592404
>"a forum for support"
>mama bloo bloo bix nood
>i can't read
That's what you sound like right now

>>386598105
it did thanks!

>>386598258
No, it's a bunch of offsiters coming here to shill one of their members shitty games, trying to convince people they're just oldfags is a pretty awful way to defend it.

>>386598258
Codex predates 4chan.

>>386598203
Aren't you the retard who paid full price?

>>386598249
Honestly, i lost track of how many hours i played, i wasted almost 2 afternoons trying to open the vault of the exemplar. If i had to guess i say 31-35 hours.

>>386598576
Haven't bought anything and there's a sale so technically nobody has paid full price :^)

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What in the world is the pass word for the apparition in the Catacombs?

What's all this "sapes" stuff about? I see it in every thread.

>>386598749
Clearly you haven't been in more than one thread given this is explained every thread.

>>386598469
>No, it's a bunch of offsiters coming here to shill one of their members shitty games, trying to convince people they're just oldfags is a pretty awful way to defend it.
Okay, so everyone that isn't playing weeb shovelware is a hostile element from another website trying to sell you a bad game, even when the game is extremely good and people are actually discussing it and showing gameplay. Okay, fuck me. I guess /v/ is dead then. We can never discuss anything again. /v/ is only for posting porn of nintendo characters now. Lets just delete the board and free everyone from this nightmare. Fuck it.

>>386598860
>this entire post
Offsiters, not even once

>>386598705
It's really, really easy to figure out. Look around, read your notes.

The answer is Grief.

>>386598915
This. Stopped reading at weeb

>>386598749
It's the latest forced meme perpetuated by /pol/, so of course our resident window lickers have to use it to describe everyone who has an opinion that isn't "OMG BEST GAME EVAR 10/10 INCLINE!"

>>386590327
Just returned it. Not worth the trouble.

Cleared the superdemo portion, started to clear the Crescent locations (and the zoo).

The game now really reminds me of HeXen 1 somehow, only with different basic mechanics. In fact, it reminds me of HeXen 1 way more, than it reminds me of Wizardry 7 or Wizards&Warriors.

Am I the only one who gets such an impression?

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>>386598934
I feel stupid now.
But thanks anon. You're the person that makes this thread worth coming to.

>>386598915
I've been on 4chan since 2006, chucklefuck. You underage reddit assholes absolutely ruined one of the only half decent board on this website. Fuck you.

>>386598860
Not even subtle/10

>>386599051
>/v/
>half decent
see >>386599062 and try harder next time.

>>386590327
So we can agree that this is officially the biggest blunder of the 2017 right?

>>386594983

You just need to make a save folder in your appdata\local directory and it'll work again.

Of course there's no guarantee the next patch won't break shit. But you didn't waste your 36 bucks.

>>386599062
How am I wrong? We don't discuss anything any more. This is fucking nintendogaf. Every thread is either shitposting or jerking off to nintendo princesses. That is all /v/ is now. You retards ruined it.

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>>386599051
Yet you sound like you been on 4chan since 2016 and an underage retard.

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>>386599051
How much desu would you desu if you could desu?

>>386599051
You might have been here since 2006 but everything you've said so far makes you sound like an outsider
>actually defending RPGCodex fags being here
What's next, defending reddit too? "Don't worry guys, these gaiafags spamming shit memes are OK, they're oldfags like us"
It's obvious where your home is, and all I'm saying is that you should go back to it.

>>386599231

I did that and It lets me play the game but none of my old slaves work any more.

Also I can't make any new saves. So even though I can play the game theirs no way I can really make it far without the ability to make new saves.

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>>386599051
>half decent board
>/v/
>ever

>>386599337
>What's next, defending reddit too?
I've seen people unironically defending reddit in this thread just because the dev said mean things about them. How about you kys?

>>386598968
>/pol/
God you're ignorant

>>386599242
>We don't discuss anything any more.
We have a thread talking about Sonic Mania as we speak. It's not my fault you popped in and got BTFO'd by Cleve being an incompetent retard.

>>386599004
I mean, in a sense, it's like this non-descript fantasy (with very pronounced "power fantasy" overtones), which is all about imagination running wild and unrestricted, and which is sort of supposed (?) to be perceived, you know, on the run, out of the corner of one's eye, without ever stopping and taking a closer look, like a dream. Because the only thing that matters is the impression it makes on on you the first time you see or read it, and not what it is actually "supposed to represent" or "supposed to mean".

And, I mean, yeah, HeXen1 was significantly more grimdork than Grimwah so far, and had significantly less talking, not to mention all the descriptions, but, I dunno, I am definitely starting to pick a very similar vibe from Grimoire.

Hope it will persist.

>>386599463
Bitch where?

>>386599051
/v/ has been shit since 09 or 10, if not sooner

Furris? Is that you?

>>386599463
and what does that have to do with the point of my post?

Let me explain it in a way you might understand
"If it looks like a codexfag, talks like a codexfag, it's a codexfag"

Just because you've been occasionally coming to /v/ once a week that doesn't mean shit when you're actually defending these faggots.

>>386599493
>obvious /pol/tard false flagging
lmao

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>>386599608
Every single time it's been brought up. It happened in the last thread. And the thread before that. And probably the thread before that.

Cleve will kill his own game, with his own hands and he will blame everything but himself.

>>386599741
If you're ignorant why even post? Kill yourself.

So guys what do you think is the best race/class combos?

I think Beserker Lizards are pretty good. Maybe not the strongest berserkers, but that Special Ability of spitting bile really does add to a beserker's utility.
Infact I'd argue I use it more than I do actual beserkering.

Warrior Giant's a pretty good starting class too. Big ol' tank at the front. Probably going to make him a metalsmith once I get mulitclasses unlocked.

Vamphyre Necro is a given. Squishy as hell but you obviously keep them in the back out of harms way. That special charm ability is pretty handy too. Usually use the Necro's excellent debuff and status spells and then spam that charm over and over.

The fairy race make good overall spellcasters, (the elemental magic class I'm talking about), fast regen on their magic. But don't really have a whole lot of it for heavier magic. Plus they tire really easily. So bats are basically a plague to them.

I'd say status effects and debuffs are vital in this game since a lot of enemies are very meaty and hit pretty hard.
You need to cover all the bases and fast. Some harder enemies and bosses have very specific weaknesses so you need to have that coverage.

>>386599767
Cleve being a butthurt faggot has nothing to do with someone defending reddit. How about posting actual proof?

>>386599529
>Sonic Mania is not even out
>people are just posting music and pictures of sonic and talking about fucking the characters

wow, i'm sure the second the game is released the hype threads will stop and an immediate shitposting frenzy will start before actual discussion is possible

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I'm honestly pretty upset after finding out that my 1.2.0.7 file is gone for good, especially after 1.2.0.5 Cleve saying that he was sure files won't break again. Spent 8 hours and was having a lot of fun, now not sure when to start playing again. my trust has been broken and my heart hurts

>>386599858
Fairy bard is pretty good.
Giant is just shit class, even human is better.

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>>386599639
It went to shit during GG. Ripped the balls right off of the board and flooded it with faggots.

>>386600206
GG changed nothing.

>>386590751
>Annoying sound effects
I just assumed the game was supposed to sound like one of those random sound-effect toys kids like
>press this button to hear a cow go moo
>press here to honk the horn
etc

>>386600071
None of the save files are broken. Just downgrade and they will work again.

>>386598090
>erasmus the Aeorb is semi-high level
color me impressed

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i was actually enjoying this game, I think i should just go back to 1.2.0.1

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>>386600026
Listen, nobody gave a fuck about people discussing this game until y'all niggas tried turning it into an echo chamber. Besides, you were bitching about people "not discussing anything anymore" and I pointed you towards a thread where people are, in fact, discussing the game.

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>>386600254
It definitely did. 2x4 is like looking at /v/ through a time machine.

So what do I need to do to play the newest version?

>>386600071
It's your own fault. Refund the cash and download a pirated copy while you still have a chance.

>>386600451
>I pointed you towards a thread where people are, in fact, discussing the game
You did not.

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Fucking shit... in all honesty, I don't even feel like reading the manual if it does come out. I've been having so much fun figuring out stuff without a tutorial and surprisingly stumbling upon new features in the game and discussing what I've found, it made me feel like I was back in the 90s and early 2000s again.

Fuck the manual, and fuck GEN X entitled cumstains complaining about "Wat to do!!?? Tells me nothing!"

>>386599767
>They think this makes their shitty dev cool
If reddit would have him Cleve would be there in a heartbeat. He just knows his moronic internet history would bite his ass and it's better to hide out with the small group on steam that gives you money. He knows those guys will tolerate his shit.

>>386600534
Yes I did. You're just moving the goalposts because it doesn't fit in with your narrative.

>20+ years

I have heard literally nothing about this game until the last couple weeks. What about it took twenty years to make? And for how much of that time was the game actively being developed? Did the dev just draw some conceptual art then leave in on the backburner for 19 years or some shit?

>>386600302
You're right, it's the game that's broken.

So, what is the object that's supposed to go into the tomb at the catacombs?
An egg?

>>386600728
>You're just moving the goalposts because it doesn't fit in with your narrative.
No anon, there is no discussion. The thread you directed me towards perfectly sums up everything wrong with /v/. It is a hype thread with no substance whatsoever, with people literally jerking off over the game. I wouldn't be surprised if you were that furfag, Andrew, that doxx'd himself earlier. If you think the posts in that thread are actual discussion you are part of the problem.

>>386600817
Yes?

>>386600967
I don't think you get it until much later.

why does the psychic blast spell always bounce back on my guys even when its fired at a bug?

>>386601046
>It is a hype thread with no substance whatsoever
Again, moving the goalposts to fit into your narrative. I also find it curious how people talking about being excited for a game is bad but worshiping a 53 year old /pol/ack with the programming skills of a gorilla in a monkey cage is alright.

Maybe you're part of the problem.

>>386600739
he's a lazy racist bastard, read about cleve on the rpgcodex he has been making the shitty game for the alst 20 years and had 3 kickstarters to fund it

>>386601227
Poor programming.

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>>386601209
Are you kidding me?
What am I supposed to do?
Play Utawarerumono and jerk it to the H-scenes?

>>386591707
looks like a giant single-celled organism, you can see the nucleus, the organelles, and the remains of its food.

>>386601509
>What am I supposed to do?
Unless I am thinking of something else just go to another area and do stuff.

So the game isn't even firing up after starting it in steam?

>>386601382
>he's a lazy racist bastard
wow just like me

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>>386591802
>these chinese guys were going full samurai

Did anyone compile an archive with all the versions released until now?

>>386598968
It has nothing to do with /pol/. Cleve believes he's a perfect fossil of the Neanderthals. He believes he's superior to everyone else, the dirty low Homo Sapiens. He thinks his Aspergers symptoms are how Sapes (Sapiens) use his superior intelligence as a way to ostracize him

the amount of breath bigots are using to defend this bug ridden joke of a game is ridiculous. it's not even good for a 20 year old game, much less something anyone would want to play today.

and why would anyone give their money to a bigot?

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>>386591802
my sides wtf i love cleve now

>>386602009
Epic falseflag, Cleve

>>386602009
Because "fuck leftists LMAO!"

Funny thing is, Cleve would've gotten away with it if he wasn't so shit at programming that he kept deleting people's saves.

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>>386602009
>and why would anyone give their money to a bigot?
the pendulum is swinging back right and it's swinging hard, buddy. hope you're not a jew!

>>386599858
Spellcasters: Wolfin have the highest MP Regen, Aeorb/Vamps/Faeries have 3~5x slower regen than Wolfin, Humans/Drow/Giants have 10+x slower regen than wolfin.

Starter class for most casters doesn't matter. Casters can move between casters with ease.

The only class you can't move into is Metalsmith, so if you want a metalsmith, start with one. No class can ever change into a Metalsmith. Burrower only pretty much.

If you want a Templar to tank, take a Burrower and make him a Cleric, get him to 10 then classchange him. Only Clerics can really change into Templar because Class Change Restrictions. The only race that can start as a Templar is one of the worst races in the game.

Bards or Sages should be used as instrument whores, if you don't want to wait until a wolfin hits 10 to class-change into a sage, Humans despite their abysmal MP regen have fantastic stats for Sages.

>>386602173
In other words /pol/ retards are retarded.

>>386601857

I hope so, really need help updating to a prior version

>>386594405
>fifth Indiana Jones
Nani?
They are making another one?

>>386591802
>several companies let me go because they could not understand my programming genius
>each patch fucks up something new and different
guys i think cleve may not have been entirely truthful in these posts

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can't afford Grimoire right now but getting into Wizardry 7 has been fun as fuck so far. from looking at Grimoire it literally just looks like the true spiritual successor to Wizardry 7, it's like the same game with better graphics and way more detail and polish.

considering Wiz7 is considered the best of the genre by many, and the best RPG of all time in general by some, I'd say it's pretty obvious there is something really cool about this game.

>>386602457
Glad you are discovering a new genre to play.

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>>386591802
>how not to look insecure in one massive forum spergout

>>386599858
here a tip you cant change to metalsmith

either you make them since start or you dont have it

>>386590327
Why is this game priced $35?

>>386602757
To price it out of the reach of sapes.

>>386602830
Shouldn't he have made it 35neetbux then?

>>386602757
Why does the same questions have to be asked every thread?
Would it kill you to look at archive instead of asking the same redundant question, over an over again?

>>386602607
Can I eventually change bard into jester?

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>>386602757
Because you're too retarded to bill from another region and get it for half the price.

>>386602757
Because Cleve, in his infinite wisdom, realized the game would bomb and that he'd make more money in the long run by pricing his buggy mess at $35.

>>386603071
Have fun getting banned and losing your entire steam library faggot.

>>386603148
fuck off gaben

>>386602607
>>386602287
Ah balls.

What's a good class for a Warrior to progress into then?

Might rebuild the team taking in this advice.
(Currently running, Warrior, Beserker, Thief, Ranger, Cleric, Necromancer, Thaumaturge, Wizard)

the writing in this game is absolutely excellent

https://youtu.be/PbacD83e1mA?t=17m41s

The game isn't launching, what do

>>386603347
>Stygian Gehenna
Verbosity and a comprehensive lexicon is a sape attribute.

>>386603615
delete your system 32.

>>386597729
go back to the spider demon lair, there is another ladder that actually goes upwards to fight the lich, you went way too far.

>>386603732
thx anon

>>386603227
Outgoing class changes allowed:

WARRIOR: Berserker, Pirate, Ranger
WIZARD: Necromancer, Sage, Thaumaturge
CLERIC: Bard, Sage, Templar
THAUMATURGE: Necromancer, Sage, Wizard
NECROMANCER: Sage, Wizard, Thaumaturge
RANGER: Warrior, Thief, Assassin
THIEF: Bard, Pirate, Assassin
TEMPLAR: Warrior, Cleric, Bard
BERSERKER: Warrior, Pirate, Ranger
JESTER: (why???) Thief, Bard, Assassin
BARD: Cleric, Jester, Sage
METALSMITH: Warrior, Berserker, Pirate
PIRATE: Thief, Berseker, Assassin
ASSASSIN: (why?) Warrior, Thief, Berserker
SAGE: Cleric, Wizard, Thaumaturge


pick something
SPELL TABLES
All classes in Grimoire learn spells. There are 5 basic spell schools associated with a specific specialist who starts learning that school at level 1, as well as Arcanum/Eldritch spells (which I don't know anything about yet). Each class begins learning from a specific list at a specific level.

Spell interactions with multiclassing: Spells available to learn on level-up are based ONLY on your current class. The list of spells available do not transfer between classes. E.g., if you are a level 10 cleric and multiclass into templar, you do not get spell picks for your first two templar levels, and when you start learning spells from the Cleric list at templar level 3, you only get the spells available that a level 3 templar (level 1 Cleric) would get.

Base caster classes:
WIZARD, CLERIC, NECROMANCER, SAGE, THAUMATURGE: Each learns his own school, starting at level 1.

Other classes:
WARRIOR: Wizard spells at level 9
RANGER: Cleric spells at 3
THIEF: Thaumaturge spells at 6
TEMPLAR: Cleric spells at 3
BERSERKER: Thaumaturge spells at 10
JESTER: Sage and Wizard spells at 3
BARD: Cleric and Wizard spells at 3
METALSMITH: Sage spells at 6
PIRATE: Wizard and Thaumaturge spells at 6
ASSASSIN: Thaumaturge and Necromancer spells at 3

>>386598258

older than /v/ 40-50+ year old dungeon otaku

>>386591556
sounds like the typical might and magic fare, always featured robotics toward the end

>>386599051
so have I and this is the first time I flaunt it, just because you were here from the getgo doesn't mean you're not the shit of this board


>even when the game is extremely good

Oh it's just a shill throwing the "I'm an oldfag listen to me"

>>386592902
Wow you really tried... embarassing

What level do you need ancient history at for the phoenix puzzle? I have one guy on a level up who can get it to about or at 20 but still couldn't read it

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>>386591802
>People hate this guy

How can you hate this funnyman?

Why can't I launch the fucking game

>>386604965
He deleted my saves and now my fucking game doesn't work, that's how I can hate his stupid ass.

I regret spending $36 on this shitty ass game, I could've bought a new 3DS game or something.

>>386603148
and what am I going to get banned for Anon?

It's starting to feel like Cleve is just doing this on purpose at this point

>restart game because cleve fucks my save file
>finally get back to where i was in the original save
>game bricked
>30 hrs down the drain
fantastic, thanks glorious neanderthals

>>386590751
Shut it sape. The game is actually a lot of fun, Bethesda releases their games in a similar state.

>>386590878
> How in the hell does he maintain stable employment as a programmer?

He doesn't afaik, he was booted long ago and couldn't find a job doing programming in the same industry.

>>386605579
Damn must be tough i only had it happen to me once. Jesus best of luck my dude

>>386605179
>mfw I'm just never closing the game so it won't update

No way I'm restarting again. Especially when I know I'm going to play the game again when Cleve adds cheevos.

>>386605660
>The game is actually a lot of fun

It was a lot of fun, I can't even fucking play it now

>>386605660
Bethesda has a legion of autists who will mod the game into a playable state, which is more than can be said about Grimwah.

>>386605660
They don't tho'
They break mods with patches but never the game.
and even with the bugs and shit in beth games they're atleast playable

>>386605179
>He deleted my saves
I thought the saves were just fine, you just had to rollback the game client?

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>Finally got the egg from the Museum of Magic
Finally, I'm going somewhere.

>>386605660
Not even close.

>>386606336
At this point, it's too much effort to keep rolling back the game each time Cleve decides to update it. Maybe I'll pirate it in a few months after Cleve's done "fixing" the game but atm, I got better uses of my time and money to focus on.

>>386606483
Can't you turn off auto-updates for the game in the Steam client? Isn't it a checkbox?

>>386606281
you need to go to local appdata yadda yadda then add a grimoire folder, check steam forums if you are unsure, i lost a 20hour save :) but i wanted to roll a better party and play on highest difficulty so... i don't know what to say this is like Trump all over again but the game is so fucking fun arghh

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Sounds like you guys are having a lot of fun with this ga-

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*wheeze*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>386606547
And the next update?

I'm just going to give it a few days and go from there, I ain't in the habit of paying to be a beta tester.

>>386607005
Turn off auto-updates?

>>386606229
yeah i love the game, so hopefully when cleve updates the game again my current saves will still be viable. i need something to do while im pretending to work

>>386607028
this, imagine a picasso in a museum and picasso himself running in everyday to add a few extra micro sweeps with his brush just turn off auto update anon

>>386607028
it will still update when you launch the game

>>386607028
Do you even know how steam works?

And even if so, after several updates go by where I can't transfer my saves or whatever? I'll wait.

>>386590327
23 YEARS

Game is still buggy

>>386607336
same here. gonna wait a couple weeks. still plan on completing the game but i don't really want to start over right now. in a perfect world ill wake up and be able to launch the game and resume my save but who knows. it seems the pirates with the old version of the game came out ahead

>>386607203
Damn, that's fucked up.
This is why proprietary software sucks.

>>386607476
This is why retarded monkeys shouldn't make games.

>>386607203
>>386607476
wouldn't be an issue if he didn't break the game every update

>>386607469
>it seems the pirates with the old version of the game came out ahead
As usual.

>>386607557
If anything it's an argument against the stupidity of Steam forcing you to update a game if you want to play it.

>working on a game for 20 years

What?

>>386591707
A jelly donut

>>386607634
24, and just as clunky and restrictive as if it came out 24 years ago.

>>386607632
doubly true considering what happened to GTA Vice City

>>386607632
see >>386607616
Cleve's to blame, not steam.

>>386591562
>automated quicktest
jej

>>386607958
Bitch, I'm not defending Cleve breaking the game, I'm saying Steam are retards for forcing you to update.

>>386608159
it doesn't tho, I know you can choose to not update some games and play on earlier versions, I know this because I used it on rimworld a bit after A16 was released.

It is literally because Cleve is a shit developer

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>>386608395
With proof

>>386608514
that's completely separate from the normal update options, cleve is pushing all updates to the regular version of the game, like the FUCKING SAPE HE IS

there is no option to simply not update in the normal update tab of your game properties window

>>386608746
it is, but with a game where your savefiles matter, like rimworld and Grimoire something like this is a godsend.
He literally just needs to backup earlier versions, like literally keep a copy of the game pre-patching and set it on steam.
But he's either too fucking stupid to do it or he thinks people losing saves n' shit is completely fine

>>386604869
More than 48 but less than 76.

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>Painting on the wall says the egg is cracked
>Have egg in possession
>Have to crack it
So, how does one crack said egg?
Find an owl and let it sit on the egg?

>>386590327
>expecting anything different from a middle aged "developer"

Is this the end?

>>386609281
You might have already cracked something before. Use that again. Hint: Don't forget to return that something to its initial state before reusing it.

What happens when Calbrun runs out of charges? My guy keeps invoking it despite me never telling him to and I don't want to lose the sword completely.

Why does reddit shit up these threads so much?

80 posters
375 posts

~20 posters who dont have the game

Every
Single
Grimwa
Thread


Fact: Talking shit about grimoire is better than the actual game

>>386610218
>>386610308
where the fuck do you think you guys are
this is fucking /v/

>>386610369
i thought it was just /v/?

>>386610369
Grimoire is a kind of a niche game that only caters to a small target audience yet there is as many (if not more) reddit shitters than your average /v/ thread. Is this the SJW brigrade that Cleve always talks about?

>>386610524
No, it's the same old shitposters that plague this board.

>>386610524
there aren't more, they're just revealing their true colors because their pathetic sape brains can't comprehend the glory of this game

>>386610524
>People are unhappy that he's literally breaking the game every update
>Must be the reddit brigade
Jesus, how much does he pay you pr. falseflag?

>>386610524
>jumping at the SJW boogyman
>on /v/

>>386610602
I wish there was a better alternative to /v/.
I guess there's /vg/.

>>386610648
>Implying you leftist cucks weren't brigading these threads on the 1.0 release before saves were broken

>>386610805
>Implying I even knew this game existed when it was 1.0

You're hitting the wrong horse my man, I only pirated it recently.
but do tell me, Mr. Brigadier, can you answer why he doesn't just do as >>386608395
>>386608514 said to let everyone play their saves?

>>386603865
Where did you grab this data from?

>>386610215
*caliburnus

Anyway, answered my own question. You get to keep the sword and it still does huge damage.

>>386610942
I would hazard a guess and say that working on a game for 20+ years is probably symptomatic of being a perfectionist and he doesn't want people playing earlier, buggy versions. The game does still have some bugs, but it is bound to after 20 years and a solo developer. I experienced more bugs in Bethesda games (that have huge teams of people) on release than I have with Grimoire. I re-downloaded 1.0 through Steam Depot anyway so I could continue my save, wasn't a big deal.

Also
>pirating from a solo dev

>>386590327
MELONHEADS, I NEED YOUR HELP!

I entered the tomb of St. George and killed the red wizard and found the raptor egg under the Eyrie. Where do I go from here? HALP A DUMB SAPE.

>>386610524
>>386610642
>>386610805
Or maybe you are just retarded.
>>386611551
It pretty clear Cleve use more time of those 20+ to act like a moron than work on his shitty game.

>>386611632
go back to where you killed the hobgoblin and find a ladder that goes down.

>>386611551
>pirating from a solo dev
Where is the comprehensive demo where I can find out if I like the game before I buy it?

> experienced more bugs in Bethesda games (that have huge teams of people) on release than I have with Grimoire.

Beth games are also a few times bigger than this game is and beth atleast doesn't break their game with each patch, they might not fix everything but they don't break it like this dev does.

they're also not completely up in their own ass about it

>>386611753
Thanks, Anon. It was probably a dumb question but I accomplished all of that last night when I was really drunk. The quest journal in this game isn't exactly Balder's Gate tier.

>>386611737
>Or maybe you are just retarded.
Good retort reddit warrior #49532

>It pretty clear Cleve use more time of those 20+ to act like a moron than work on his shitty game.
Tell me what you think it takes to make a game from scratch as a solo develoepr? Don't give me a snarky answer like "not being retarded OLOLOL!!" I want to hear what you think is actually required.

>>386611850
I did the same thing, I spent about 4 hours dicking around trying to figure out why I wasn't progressing.

and it's happening again

Worst part was when I mapped out the crypt completely before I could enter the lich area and didn't even get the bishops hand. I kept thinking the hand was in the St George tomb.

>tfw waiting for 1.2.0.8 to play because savegame bugs
>more bugs im 1.2.0.8, will have to wait for 1.2.0.9


the ride never ends

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?HORSEFLESH?

>There are people who think Cleve is just shitposting and pretending to be retarded

>>386611551
So the reason he refuses to make everything easier on the playerbase is because he's selfcentered. thanks

>>386611769
>Where is the comprehensive demo where I can find out if I like the game before I buy it?
1. Buy game on steam
2. Refund it if you don't like it
3. Stop pretending your piracy is for a lack of demo when steam refunding exists

>Beth games are also a few times bigger than this game
In terms of what? Having vast lands of nothing in decorated with nice rocks and trees with some cities sparsely placed that have a population of 12 people? I love TES games but size does not equal content.

>they're also not completely up in their own ass about it
Todd is a literal meme for how much he lies

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>>386612154
>Want game you have been working on for 20 years to run without bugs
>Self centered

Wow it's almost as if he is attached to this project or something

>>386612115
whats even more absurd is that they think this game was actually worked on for 20 years. It feels and plays like it was on worked maybe 10-15 hours a year.

So.... should I just play World of Xeen or something? Pretty superficial but the art direction of Grimoire just hurts my eyes. I've been interested in blobbers but I don't like ones that involve real time combat and reflexes since I'm lethargic as shit so Grimrock is probably no go. Starcrawlers looks cool but I'm not into sci-fi

>>386612319
t. never programmed a thing in his life

Post mega

so why can't i pick up swords from dead bandits

>>386612319
It might be buggy and look like ass, but it has fuck-tons of actual content and well-designed dungeons at the very least.

And there is a point to every skill in the game, everything is used and has a use, even if it isn't 100% necessary to finish the game itself.

>>386612364
I think the art direction is ok once you get used to it but I can see what you mean. I wouldn't suggest Grimoire as your first one anyway since the learning curve is a bit steep. World of Xeen is a pretty great game that isn't quite as difficult, but still a lot of fun (and a huge game at that). The controls are a little bit dated but you get used to it fast.

>>386612298
>Want game you have been working on for 20 years to run without bugs
>Self centered

>Each update is as bugged as the one before
>Savegames have broken multiple times
>In a game where you're supposed to spend 100s of hours pr. playthrough

He could literally just do what Rimworld does, but instead people are only allowed to play the version Cleve wants you to play.
That's self-centered, it would literally take nothing off of him except the few minutes it would take to package the earlier version before going to make a new one

>>386611923
>Good retort reddit warrior #49532
Nice butthurt reply stupid faggot
>Tell me what you think it takes to make a
game from scratch as a solo developer?
Some know how and lots of hard work Cleve failed in both areas. Also there are solo developers that made some great games in less than 20+ years.

>>386612452
Because it doesn't matter. All the good items are from chests or bosses, and you can steal from or charm/steal from shops for infinite low-tier items.

Hell, you get so many items anyway that my inventory is always fucking filled with the loot I get from dungeons.

>>386612364
>should I just play World of Xeen or something? Pretty superficial but the art direction of Grimoire just hurts my eyes
Xeen looks pretty fucking crazy, too. But yeah, you should play it.

>>386612505
>That's self-centered, it would literally take nothing off of him except the few minutes it would take to package the earlier version before going to make a new one
It'd take him three months of development to do so.

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>>386612364
>So.... should I just play World of Xeen or something?

Yes. It's probably one of the most newb friendly 90s dungeon crawlers (as well as M&M 3). The art direction is consistent, too. However, if you don't like the look of pic related, you probably should skip Xeen and old Might and Magic games entirely.

>>386612582
>It'd take him three months of development to do so.
How can it take him 3 months of development to simply not remove the earlier version and set it as a beta instead?

>>386612505
So any developer who doesn't have a "rollback" in their steam game properties is self centered? Is RimWorld the metric?

Skyrim doesn't let me do that, I thought you said Bethesda wasn't self centered?

>>386612505
>That's self-centered, it would literally take nothing off of him except the few minutes it would take to package the earlier version before going to make a new one
You can download older versions right from the steam console. There is instructions on how to do so right at the beginning of the thread. Come on, man.

>>386612640
How can it take him 20 years to release what he did?

>>386612538
>Some know how
>Some

>and lots of hard work
Can I see your github page? I am curious to see what kind of work you have done that you think is hard work

>>386604965
the mental hypnosis programming of modern millennials

>>386612723
No, any developer who have repeatedly broken savegames should do it.
>>386612740
So you have to go through a ball of hoops when he could literally do it in 5min? Again, he's the one not testing his patches before he throws them out why should the playerbase suffer because he doesn't care enough to test? or atleast make a workaround?

>>386612942
>No, any developer who have repeatedly broken savegames should do it.

You mean like Bethesda games?

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>>386612875

>>386605179
this game is sick, it's unfathomable to me that he's not taking it more seriously. save deleting bug is kind of like an instant ego killer like come on man, stop bragging all the time

these games have never been widely understood by the mainstream and why would they be, they're fucking weird

>>386613090
why do you keep going on about bethesda? this isn't a bethesda game, this is a game Cleve made.
Are the only counterarguments you have "Bethesda did it worse"?

Now can anyone actually answer me as to why he haven't implemented easier ways of playing on older version so, if it should happen again, you can actually still play? Other than "he just wants to perfect his game!" because if that's so then why doesn't he test patches?

>>386606281
yup. I have mad respect for Grimoire and Cleve just take this shit more seriously though

save deleting bug is fucking retarded.

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>>386612942
>So you have to go through a ball of hoops when he could literally do it in 5min?
No, you just take 10 seconds to copy-paste what's in the first reply and then drag the file Steam downloads into the Grimoire folder. And that's including the time it takes to download the game. I don't see how that is going through a 'ball of hoops.' You are being very silly.

>>386613453
>You have to do an emergency patch on his patch to make the game work

Again, why doesn't he just test his patch before launching it to his playerbase?
Why doesn't he make a rollback method so if this happens again nothing is lost?
Why is he so far up his own ass that he literally doesn't care about anything but himself?

>>386613412
Cleve might be worth respect despite all his crazy posts if he cranked this out in like, eh, 5-10 years. I think that's about how long it took the Underrail guy doing it as a side-project. 20+ years for a more simple concept gets him basically negative points in the terms of a personal passion project.

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I found the secret tomb of the ministerial or whatever.
What am I supposed to do after that?

>>386613663
I'm in the catacombs by the way.

>>386613260
Nice image, I'm waiting. You seem to have pretty strong opinions on what it takes to develop a game, I assume you know something about it right?

>>386613327
I used Bethesda as an example of a company who releases games with far more bugs than Grimoire, despite having more money, more manpower and using newer game development technologies. You said Bethesda wasn't "self centered" then used RimWorld as a metric of not being self-centered based on their "version rollback" feature on Steam. I told you that Bethesda games also don't include this rollback feature despite their also-notoriously-buggy games and save file corruption, and now your scrambling for "W-W-WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BETHESDA!?".

>this isn't a bethesda game, this is a game Cleve made.
By this argument, you can go ahead and stop talking about Rimworld then?

>>386613412
>save deleting bug is fucking retarded
there is no bug that deletes saves. the new patch was supposed to relocate the save folder but he forgot to have it create the folder, so you can create the folder yourself and the new patch will work, or redownload an older version of the game and your save files will also still work. I think it'd be easier to just say "fuck it" and tell people their save files are done for rather than go down this very dangerous path, but cleve is being autistic about it. hopefully he doesn't spend too much time trying to find a permanent solution that could be used to actually fix bugs.

>>386613663
Get the bishops hand and go to the midnight gardens outside of town and go to the lich area

Did the eulogy ritual and the face on the wall said there would be a turtle to carry me, but I got to the chamber of waters and there's no turtle.

What do I do? I want to ride turtles.

>>386606483
>I got better uses of my time and money to focus on.
doubt it. this is legendary role playing gaming. you're part of a small number of people mapping out one of the very small number of verifiably incredible experiences available in gaming of all time. I'd say this is pretty special stuff. personally

>>386613785
It doesn't work completely tho. I created the folder and I can no longer save over other saves. Unless theres a way to fix this. Says DO NOT OVERWRITE THIS FILE

>>386613596
>Again, why doesn't he just test his patch before launching it to his playerbase?
It probably worked fine when he tested it because he already had a folder manually created for saves.
>Why doesn't he make a rollback method so if this happens again nothing is lost?
Again, you can do it right from the console. Does steam even allow rollback for non-early access games? Pretty sure it doesn't.
>Why is he so far up his own ass
He isn't, but you sure are.

>>386613958
It does roll back dude. You use steam console and get the app data and build data from Steam DB and download the last patch.

>>386612115
would you rather live in a world where the 90% of people in the world with 100 IQs that literally are incapable of reading walk around acting like they know everything, .......
.....

...............

or a world

where people with 100 IQs live in constant self torment and self-criticism and constant awareness of their own intellectual place in the world, and thus their place

choose one

>>386613779
I used Rimworld as an example of how it could be done, you were the one who took it as something more than that.

>I used Bethesda as an example of a company who releases games with far more bugs than Grimoire, despite having more money, more manpower and using newer game development technologies
as I said the games they make are many times bigger and more complicated than this is, so there's no comparison there.

>>386613958
>It probably worked fine when he tested it because he already had a folder manually created for saves.
So he didn't test it, despite changing how the game handles saves?

>Again, you can do it right from the console. Does steam even allow rollback for non-early access games? Pretty sure it doesn't.
yes it does, the example used was Rimworld, a game in EA.

>He isn't, but you sure are.
All I've seen from him is "if you don't love my game you're literally shit" and his game isn't anything groundbreaking, it's a good dungeon game but it's nothing groundbreaking

>>386613867
>It doesn't work completely tho.
Yeah, it's a workaround, which is why I think he should just drop this and move on. But I'm sure people will lose their fucking minds if he does.

>>386612175
>Stop pretending your piracy is for a lack of demo when steam refunding exists
You realize they'll revoke your refund ability if you indeed use it to demo games, right? You do realize that two hours would not be anywhere close to enough time to demo a "600 hour" game, right?

>>386614056
Yeah, I'm aware of that. I'm trying to explain that you can't enable rollback from the UI unless it's an early access game as far as I know.

>>386613818
you have to swim 3 tiles forward yourself.
You can spend some time learning swimming here, or you hopefully have food in your inventory and can cheese it. If you have swimming at 1 I believe one tile takes you down to 0 vit, but the next tile will kill you. As long as you have some vit you won't drown on the next tile. There is water encounters tho so be prepared. All you get for finishing that shit is 2k exp.

>>386613785
if people are geeking out about this when it's that easy to fix, then I simply have no idea why people are geeking out. that's like intro to computers level computer literacy if what you say is true.

that said I've been trying to "compile" a specific version of DOSBox to run Wizardry 7 on my Mac with savestates so I can get through it faster and I have absolutely no fucking idea how people are so good at working with software on this level. like this one site gives you the "source" and expects you to install it on your own and personally I just have no fucking idea what I'm doing

yeah anyway

Any way to get in Waterport without just picking the door and murdering the Reaver?

>>386613818
The turtle is through a hidden door that you need to swim to. It is near the entrance but I hope you trained swimming.

>>386614275
What he needs to do is re patch the fucking game to the first patch and tell people not start in sanctuary. It's that fucking simple. Who releases patches like this, after fucking around with it for 2 hours then release. People test patches for months before releasing. Just fucking scrap the past patches and make the game the first version again. It's fucking retarded.

>>386614181
>yes it does, the example used was Rimworld
>a game in EA

Okay, you're too retarded to have a conversation with. Just don't play the game and be miserable.

>early access release
>game breaking bugs
Is anyone really surprised?