I love how Takahashi consciously chose the MC of Xenoblade 2

Should have been yuribait female protagonist.

I love how it's going to flop.

Does it matter? It will not top Zelda.

>>386569143
All Zelda has going for it is exploration and environmental interactivity. Xenoblade 2 will destroy Zelda in story, music, combat depth, environment design, setting and exploration.

your incredibly faggy, juvinile strawman post falls flat considering people are perfectly fine with shulk

>>386569304
>All Zelda has going for it is what Xenoblade has consistently failed at

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>>386569462
So you have no powerful argument. Cool.

>>386569304
>story
Doubt it after X
>music
Doubt it after X
>combat depth
>literal MMO combat
It will just look prettier.

TAAAAAAKE THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/385916881/#q385918854
>that last time OP was laughed out of his own thread

BORN IN A WORLD OF STRIFE

>>386568635
Yeah, the problem is because it's a young man and not because his outfit is hilariously bad that people might have a problem with him.

>>386568939
Like the 2 previous titles? Xeno does not sell much, never did, never will.

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but making the sword a female gives the game a SS theme which is hawt

>>386569304
All of those are wrong though. It will have MORE story than Botw, but that isn't a good thing - cheesy anime cutscenes and writing, while Botw opted to tell its story through the actual environments and sparse cutscenes.

>>386569567
This

>>386569567
>Doubt it after X
The music we've heard already sounds better than any track from BOTW. The story is without a doubt going to be better since this is a fucking story-focused Xeno game. Meanwhile BOTW has little to no focus on any meaningful plot or character development other than "go kill Ganon" in favour of exploration.

>MMO combat
There's tons of strategy such as positional damage, different combinations of Blades, combo combinations, break topple daze, launch and much more. Xenoblade has always secretly been the better game than Zelda. Xenoblade was better than Skyward Sword and Xenoblade 2 will be better than BOTW. History repeats.

>>386569304
>crazy xenobladefags are seriously rallying behind it's story of all things.

At least Zelda never tried to write a good story.

>>386569304
I only see Xenoblade 2 beating it when it comes to the world's sense of scale. Unless they unfuck themselves after XCX and remember how to write a decent plot and characters again.

Funny, I normally dig xeno games (Saga, Chronicles, X) and I find the art style to this game to be an absolute fucking train wreck in all regards, how someone conceptualized this and had multiple human beings agree "yeah that looks good" is a travesty in itself

>>386569959
No there isn't dumbass, every Xeno game so far has been dominated by one singular strategy. That isn't depth.

Meanwhile in Botw you actually fight different enemies differently. And modern Mitsuda is shit, just generic blaring orchestral garbage, nothing there will be on par with Zelda's minimalistic score.

>>386570331
You are utterly pathetic, please end your life

>>386570074
Maybe you need to realise that the focus of XB2 is story and it's going back to the formula of the first game and not X? BOTW shares many of the same problems as X because they also decided to put exploration over telling a focused story with linear progression in large open environment you could explore. XB2 is going back to that. Not sure how they could fuck desu.

>Last remnants of civilisation living on massive titans that are dying causing resource-based conflicts because everyone is trying to survive
>Rex finds Pyra and the Aegis blade and vows to get her back to Elysium
>Ardanian soldiers have taken over Torigoth and are after Rex and his friends

The story set up already sounds great. Much more interesting than "go kill Ganon".

>>386569959
>Xenoblade was better than Skyward Sword and Xenoblade 2 will be better than BOTW. History repeats.

Except no one in the real world thinks this. Zelda is more relevant than your anime mmo garbage. It is the one game Nintendo trusted to launch and carry their system early. People will still be buying BOTW a year later unlike Xenoblade 2.

>>386569959
>Xenoblade was better than Skyward Sword
It's okay, Anon. Maybe one day your niche series will get close to Kirby's sales.

>>386570396
Not an argument.

>>386570492
None of that matters when the WRITING is garbage, go back and watch the trailers, it's worse than the average battle shonen manga.

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>>386570492
>BOTW shares many of the same problems as X because they also decided to put exploration over telling a focused story with linear progression in large open environment you could explor

Except that wasn't a problem in BOTW. The game was going for that and did it well unlike competitors.

>>386570493
It's just brand name that carries Zelda. Sorry.

>>386570492
>civilization is fucked, flee from the soldiers
wow ripping off final fantasy 2 now

>>386570579
>None of that matters when the WRITING is garbage, go back and watch the trailers, it's worse than the average battle shonen manga.
Still better than the shit most JRPGs come up with or Zelda for that matter.

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>Xenokiddies
You people are as pathetic as FF fags, morons who believe such shallow and derivative games are nothing more than flavour of the month garbage.
And what's worse is that like Kisekifags you think your kiddie games have actually good writing too.

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Are you literally incapable of discussing this game without shitting on people for not blindly fellating it before release as well as comparing it to other games with practically nothing in common?

Don't pretend this isn't the first time you've done it.

>>386570331

In BotW, I just equipped my best weapons and slapped the shit out of everything without any regard for safety except for Lynels, which are trivialized by perfect blocks and dodging.

>>386570726
>TAKE THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!

>>386568635
How many does it need to sell to be considered a succes?

>>386569304
>combat depth
>walk up to enemy
>watch your character auto-attack

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1416189&page=13
Lol, the BOTW honeymoon is way past its sell by date. The amount of people who felt disappointed by it... Man. Looking back, they agree that it's hugely flawed and not their favourite Zelda game.

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Been replaying X after a year break and I get serious Xenogears vibes from it.
>ground and skell/gear combat
>realistic future techdisregarding zohar
Forgot how much I liked this game, just wished they fleshed the story out a little more and gave mote depth to the MC and the rest of the cast.

>>386569774
last two sold great though

>>386570640
Just like how Xenoblade is trying to catch on the brand STILL having Xeno in the title because of the old games but people STILL don't care

>>386568635
cuck

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>>386569462
>Xenoblade
>Failing at exploration
Pick one and only one.

>>386569676
AGAINST THE MODS

The autism.

>>386570960
It's funny how you have to go to the lengths of oversimplifying the combat to attempt to make any kind of solid criticism. You fall face first, bud.

>>386570824
I didn't say it's perfect, you can obviously beat everything just by abusing healing. But bows, elements, headshots, every weapon type, Urbosa's Fury, backstabs, stasis, basically every option are all useful in BOTW. You're playing inefficient by not using them.

It's fucking delusional to compare a game like XCX to that where one thing dominates all others.

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>>386568635
Funny how 90% of all JPRGs consciously chose young boys or girls as protagonists.
And yet when a studio you like does it its somehow a genius move.

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>>386569304
>Xenoblade 2 will destroy Zelda
Nah.

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>>386571119
WE CHOOSE TO FAP

This game looks worst than Xenoblade Chronicles X for the Wii U.

>>386570932
How on earth would anyone know that

>>386570960
> I've never played a Xenoblade game but I'm going to comment anyway

>>386568635
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LESS OF YOU ARE GOING TO BUY THE GAME
lol, alright
Don't come crying to /v/ later

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>>386570761
It really is insane how powerful tribalism has become on /v/.
How far gone do you have to be to consider another group of people to be subhumans and dedicate time to shitting on them because they play a different fucking videogame series?

>>386571095
>no climbing
>typical ubisoft design of quests
>no physics
>no weather influencing all aspects of gameplay
>no movement options

It's shit. There are very few JRPGs with good exploration, Xenoblade isnt one of them

>>386571095
Dude, the Xenoblade games have amazing landscapes but you can't interact with any of it and quests boil down to Zelda tier fetching.

>>386570980
Funny how you say that, because I'm playing through Xenogears for the first time and now I'm picking up on all the XCX similarities too, but backward. Even just from designs standpoints, for example I get the feeling like NLA is just Takahashi expanding on the themes of Yggdrasil, with things like the Skell/Gears hangars and whatnot.

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>>386571498
>no climbing

>>386571095
What gem

>>386571639
I played XG last year and I really want an X sequel now

>>386571639
XG >XB

>>386571565
Interacting with the environment is overrated. Just gives me emotions through the story, music, and environments. Chrono Trigger, Witcher 3, and Xenoblade didn't need environment interactivity and they're still 3 of the greatest games ever made. All your environmental interactivity in Zelda didn't stop people being disappointed by it and still favouring older Zelda games.

>>386571209

This is idiotic. I could list out all the individual mechanics xeno has and go "see? It has way more going on!" The reality is neither game has good combat, but anything you do in Zelda beyond swinging your best weapon and abusing flurry rush is you desparately trying to get the most fun possible out of a broken system.

>>386571730
Climbing as an actual mechanic, you didn't play BoTW did you? Even some Ubishit games have it even if it's limited

>>386571730
>that retarded jumping animation
is this assassin's creed

Why the fuck is there so much in-fighting between Nintendo fans, and then even more in-fighting between fans of their series?

>>386569304
And XBX will destroy XB2, once the west realizes what happens to the gameplay, when Takahashi genuinely tries to make a story focused game.

>>386572143
Falseflagging.

Are you dense?

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>>386571423
>How far gone do you have to be
Not far when every fucking idiot thinks their shitty franchise for kids is somehow a masterpiece because it sells millions of copies or because it is TOTALLY niche and only played by the cool, """hardcore""" kids.

One thing is being a fan of a franchise, enjoy talking about it and wanting to expand their base and let people know about it, another is aggressively shitposting every fucking day how your pet franchise is the best thing in the world, the saviour of X genre or a masterpiece, especially when it's by all means mediocre to anyone who actually bothered playing more than a handful of videogames in their lives.

So don't act surprised when people like me are tired of seeing this shit every fucking day and point out how ridiculous you are.

>>386572143
It's just one false-flagging autist that wants to kill future XC2 discussion.

>New gameplay last week
>E3 build again

>New gameplay at Gamescom
>Probably going to be the E3 build again

New Direct when?

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>>386571885
I would agree but XB is just more fun to play, and the world feels much more alive in some aspects. I'd feel differently if disk 2 was more open world like disk 1. Honestly XG, XB, and XBX are some of my favorite games ever because of their world building, combat and music.

>>386572143
>He can't spot false flagging
First week on /v/ eh?

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>All these niggers arguing about shit when we have ACE+ back to compose

Feels good bros

https://youtu.be/ImWH_jUhiO4

Not feeling the character design but the world looks dope as fuck so w/e - We'll see about the plot. XC1 plot was JRPG as all hell, but it was JRPG in the right ways

>>386572213
OP didn't actually start the falseflagging. If you read up it was a Zelda fanboy who started it.

>>386571968
>I could list out all the individual mechanics xeno has and go "see? It has way more going on!"
You can't because many of them are useless, again, there is no reason to use anything but Dual Guns in XCX
>but anything you do in Zelda beyond swinging your best weapon and abusing flurry rush
Why would you ever Flurry Rush a Lynel when you get far higher damage and less durability consumption out of headshots, spin to win, Urbosa's Fury, mounts (literally consumes no durability), etc. Or on typical mobs, where backstabs are easy to set up and far stronger. Or one elemental enemies, where using the right element OHKOs. You clearly know nothing about how to play, but keep spamming your Flurry Rush to deal no damage and break your weapons

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>>386572143
It's usually just Smashfags with superficial knowledge of the series trying to stir shit up because they're autistic.

>>386572353
>OP didn't actually start the falseflagging
>starts off with a wall of strawmanning

>>386572343
The XBC story and progression was overrated IMO. XBC has a lot of strengths, but it's story is definitely not among them.

>>386572143
Because my niche game became cancerized with Smash memes and youtube celebrities to a status where even the director never wants to go back.

>>386571730
I am a big Xeno-fan and even I admit calling this climbing is a stretch.

>>386572413
The Xeno fanboy is the one stirring shit up. Just look at the OP and his posts in the thread, and if you weren't new you would know he has been doing this for months.

Everyone who enjoys JRPGs has played games with kid protags, none of us give a shit.

>>386572431
Ok anon, sure.

>>386572353
OP is blatantly false-flagging.

>>386572431

It is what it is. It's played straight with a few twists, but overall, there's far too much filler. I've always maintained XBC was a solid 40 hour JRPG wrapped in 30 hours of blatant filler nonsense.

>>386572385

The game hands out good weapons like candy. None of that knowledge is even close to necessary, the game is easy as shit no matter what you do.

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>>386572554
Whatever you say anon.

>>386572431
It's literally among the tops of both first-party Nintendo games and modern JRPG story-wise. You can't make a top 5 of both categories to disprove my point

>>386572779
Way to prove my point.

>>386572837
THIS.

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>>386572779
>I have no idea what this word means

>>386572353
>OP didn't actually start the falseflagging
fuck off op
>>386569338

>>386568635
>Takahashi consciously
lol

>>386572917
I'm glad I don't. It means I have a life.

>>386572779
>Waaaaaaaaaaaaah I don't want to play as a kid
>Waaaah waaaah his pants look GAY
>Waah waah waaaaaaaaaaaaah where's my big strong muscly adult MC looking serious in the face, give me edge
We're just ignoring this?

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>>386573012

Is this what Xeno threads have become now? False flagging and shit flinging from every side of the spectrum? And there is a divide between XC and XCX that is just stupid in a way.

>>386572182
>>386572220
>>386572338

But it's literally happening with Metroid fans as we speak right now. It also happens all the fucking time with Fire Emblem.

>>386572745
Never said it was "necessary", just that most of its options are useful, and it has enemies with depth - making it a good combat system.

You can beat DMC3 on DMD without touching JCing or Royal Guard. Doesn't mean they aren't ridiculously useful

>>386573039
Isn't that what you guys do though? I was just reenacting your behaviours. I did forget feet stamping for added authenticity though.

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What's with you faggots and climbing? Why yall obsessed with climbing?

Climbing this climbing that can you climb that mountain climb climb climb.

Who the fuck cares?

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>>386568635
>>386570396
>>386573012
You're at the bottom right now

>>386572353
Zelda is THE franchise.

Don't let me ever catch you disrespect that for your Kusoge game

>>386568635
>Takahashi consciously chose the MC

You are mistaken my lad, that was actually a gun pointed at him by Yakuza man Kimishima, should Takahashi fail to provide a linear kiddy baiting mone printing JRPG to compete with Final Fantasy, financially.

>>386571226
ELECTRIC NUTBUSTER

>>386573193
It was actually because Takahashi was inspired by shows he loved as a kid such as Galaxy Express 999 and Oliver! by Carol Reed. That's why he made this game.

>>386573160
Nice victim complex. What a way to start a thread.

falseflag thread, report and hide

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Got a few gifs I made the other day.

>>386573346
Well it's not gonna go anywhere if I post anything proper or positive. Tried that many times and nobody posts.

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>>386573401

>>386572837
>You can't make a top 5 of both categories to disprove my point
>modern JRPG story-wise
Ao no Kiseki
Sen no Kiseki
Sen no Kiseki II
Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen
Utawarerumono: Futari no Hakuoro
That was easy.

>>386573452
>Well it's not gonna go anywhere if I post anything proper or positive
I doubt you've ever even tried to have a Xenoblade Chronicles 2 thread without crocodile tears or calling out an unrelated franchise.

>>386573138

You can't beat DMD by mashing combo 1 with Rebellion though, and you sure as fuck can't get a decent rank, while you can do the equivalent in Zelda and have no issues. You can give the player all the options you want, if there isn't even the slightest incentive for the player to touch them it's a broken system. Unless you're trying to tell me Asscreed has great combat too, because you have options.

>>386573523
not even the guy you're responding to

>falcuck

end your life

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>>386573490

>>386573523
>Sen no Kiseki
I love Kiseki too but come on

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>>386573452
>admitting to false-flagging
I get the feeling your threads are terrible by default.

>>386573128
Again, do you not understand false flagging

>>386573193
That makes no sense as FF right now is fujoshi's bait, so in order to directly compete with it XBC 2 would have to be about young pretty boys without playable girls and that is not the case.

>>386573523
Oh boy JRPGs even more niche than Xenoblade. Well done.

I think JRPGs have moved well beyond telling story through text boxes like in the PSX days, mate, but nice try. Come back when you can list JRPGs that come close to matching Xenoblade in cutscene choreography and drama.

>>386573645
I agree both games are the worst in the series, but they are still better than Xenoblade in terms of story. I'd even say they are better in terms of everything.

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Why Takahashi devolved so much as far as protagonists go?
Just compare this awful 13 years old to Fei who looks manly as fuck even on concept arts.

>>386573573
>You can't beat DMD by mashing combo 1 with Rebellion though
Yes you can, provided you abuse items. Exactly the same as Zelda with healing.
>and you sure as fuck can't get a decent rank
Irrelevant.
>You can give the player all the options you want, if there isn't even the slightest incentive for the player to touch them
The incentive is to kill enemies faster.
>broken system
No one denied that the item system is broken. The same is true of many games though, including DMC3 which has an item system that functions exactly the same as BOTW's.
>Unless you're trying to tell me Asscreed has great combat too, because you have options
Are they all useful? Does it have Lynel-tier enemies? Then yes, it's good.

>>386573836
Come back when those games aren't just 2D pixelated PSX nostalgia trips.

>>386573934
Sh-Shut up!
The new protagonist is a futuristic diver with a super cool suit made for what he does and it looks perfectly fine

>>386573523
why does this falcom faggot invade every xenoblade thread? How insecure can you be?

>>386573824
>say "give me 5 games with good stories"
>be given
>REEEEEEEEEE THEY ARE NICHE GIVE ME GRAPHICS
Kill yourself.

>>386573934
Thanks for proving OPs point, anon.

>OP shitposts to attract more posters
>but he doesn't know when to stop and the thread isn't even about what he was trying to bait replies to

>>386573934
Because he hates SE and this game is his revenge. What you think it was the "jrpgs right now are full of cast of young pretty boys" commentary he did? It was a direct jab to SE.

>>386574071
I rarely even post in Xeno threads, anon. You are mistaking me for someone else.

>>386574365
Mhm

>>386572837
As far as story goes XBC is awful. It's a fucking shounenshit of the lowest quality where you fight the god at the end, with an equally shitty sci-fi twist. I'm actually surprised Takahashi fell this low after Xenogears as far as story goes.

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>>386573523
>Sen no Kiseki
aaaaaahahahhahahhhhhaahaahahhhaha

*breaths in*

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHHHHAAAAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

*BREATHS IN*

*TIDUS LAUGH*

HAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>386573523
>Sen no Kiseki
>Sen no Kiseki II
Persona tier light novel haremshit garbage.
>Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen
>Utawarerumono: Futari no Hakuoro
VNs aren't JRPGs.

>>386571423
You mean like OP is? He's making Xeno fans look bad.

>>386571498
>There are very few JRPGs with good exploration, Xenoblade isnt one of them
How about you play it before spouting bullshit?
Xenoblade Chronicles X is not only the jrpg with the best exploration, it's literally the videogame with the best exploration (except maybe BoTW)

>>386575317
The only thing worse than falseflaggers are namefagging falseflaggers

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I could suffer with MC's horrible design, but what the fuck they were thinking with Pyra?
Xeno games produced a lot of sexy and cute female characters, but she looks like a hilariously overdesigned piece of shit and i can bed money on the fact she will have no fucking personality at all, too.

>>386576891
>ovedesigned

has to fit the swords

Is this the proper xenoblade thread?

>>386578126
It's the only one around.

>>386576891
That's not a character it's a monado.

Xenoblade, the offline MMO were it takes 2 minutes of auto-attacking while using the same 3 skills over and over to kill a fucking boar.

But since it's Nintendo exclusive, somehow MMO quests in an empty open world is the pinnacle of JRPGs.

>>386578335
t. I've literally only played 10 minutes of X

>>386578335
considering MMO combat is better than whatever the average jRPG shits out it's not hard to beat jRPG combat

>xenoblade X
>empty over world

never mind, opinion discredited. Don't bother responding I won't reply

TAAAAKE THIIIIIIS!!!
>There are still people who want to buy the game after we heard the VA and saw the MMO combat gameplay

>>386578513
What is there to do on Xenoblade's world?
Wow, looks like running over blue gems picking up garbage is quality content!

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>>386578513
>MMO Combat
>Good

Are you serious?

I agree I've played JRPGs with kiddy MCs before but those weren't my favorites anyway
I'm just not feeling it with these designs.


Alright I hate them ok? I haven't seen a SINGLE character I moderately liked in any trailer as of yet. My hype for this is p much dead.

is this going to come to pc otherwise i dont care

>>386578791
There's literally nothing wrong with MMO combat, ex. the combat of FFXIV is a lot more fun than persona 5 (which I assume you're using as an example based off your image). The problem with MMOs are the fetch quests they use to pad out the main game because people will complain about muh content

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Takahashi should learn how to make young protagonists.

>>386578898
Nobody gives a shit about you PC.uck.

Back to watching paint dry simulator.

>>386578898
yes, wait about 3-4 years for a switch emulator

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>>386569774
Oh look, I fixed the sales AND made GOTY 2017.

>>386578968
>9S
>Young

>>386576891
>Pyra
>overdesigned
You either never seen a jrpg character in your life or have no idea what *overdesigned* means

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>>386578335
>Xenoblade
>empty
How about you play the fucking game instead of parroting the "open world = empty" meme like a drone? I bet you also think that "good graphics = bad gameplay and/or story", do you?

>>386578791
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Personafags have no shame whatsoever

I'm more than happy to play as a shota, but this game really looks like a step down from X.

>>386568635
Weeb washed franchise. You'll get bored of generic anime some day. Xeno and Fire Emblem should die.

>>386568635
It didn't weed me out. I hate the MC's design and the boob sword but I'm still getting the game because the world looks neat and I want to explore it.

Also, I don't mind playing as a young boy at all. I just think he looks ridiculous beside the sword girl. She looks like an adult. He looks like a little boy. There's 100% going to be forced romance between the two, of course. That just doesn't go together well in my mind.

>>386578791
Still miles above turn-based shit

>>386576891
Of course she is overdesigned, she is a fucking sword!

>>386568635
Why does he look like shit though?
Also
>ragetards
>good

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>>386568635
I love shota MCs!

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>>386568635
>Takahashi makes the MC of Xenoblade 2 look like a young boy
>Makes the heroine a tall super busty sword qt
>Claims the game is an adult boy meats girl story

I am ready for this /ss/ JRPG future we've entered

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>>386582710
We are already living the dream. Doubt Takahashi will deliver anything comparable.

>>386568635
It's just that the design looks horribly generic, the design of the bitch too by the way. Damn shame considering all the other elements are fucking great in Xeno games.

>>386582861
Takahashi likes sappy love stories too though.