What is a good entry point for the Dragon Quest games? Before

Yeah, 3DS can play 4 through 9, and your phone can play 1 through 3. The 3DS is the best investment for Dragon Quest.

5 and 8 are by far the best entry points, while 7 should only be played after you've played at least one other title

>>386563365
And they're supposedly releasing 1-3 soon on 3DS eshop, so it's all in one.

>>386563365
I don't think 8 is a good jump on point. I know too many people who give up after 8. Hand of the heavenly bride is a good one to start with.

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>>386563365
>3ds can play 9

what

>>386565959
What's the matter? IX is a DS game so the 3DS can play it.

>>386563365
>3DS can play 4 through 9, and your phone can play 1 through 3.
Might as well play 4 on phone, too. It's the only complete translation.

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>>386566116
>the 3ds can play DS games

I've had mine since release, hacked it two years ago, play it basically daily, and I legitimately did not know this

>>386566204
It can. I also found it weird how you singled out IX when the post you replied to mentioned you could play IV through IX on 3DS. IV, V and VI are also DS games.

>>386563648
oh shit really?

>>386566204
In other news: the DS can play GBA games
The GBA can play GBC games, too
Some GBC games even had bonus content unlocked when played in a GBA

>>386563123
Start with III or IV if you want a good game, or VIII if you're a baby who needs to start easy.
>>386563365
>IV or V on ds
Garbage.
>>386566204
You didn't know the 3ds was backwards compatible.

A 3DS (and hacking it) is great. Can play 1 - 11 and some spin offs on it. Only better version unavailable on it is 4, which is better in mobile.

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I'd say 3, 5 or 8, however it's not too difficult to play them in order since a lot of changes and tropes become more common in later games, making the older titles feel a lot more dry.

7 still stands as one of the most daunting titles in the franchise, but it's personally my favorite, right there with 5.

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>>386566335
I thought maybe those were on the eShop or something in the original form, not the DS versions. I've learned something today

>>386566474
Which version of 7 is more enjoyable? I plan on playing the 3ds version regardless but want to collect some opinions.

>>386566692
the remake is the definitive version

>>386566692
7 on 3DS, 8 on PS2.

QoL changes.

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My first game in the series is 8, for the 3ds. I'm playing it right now. Just got to the thief town and having a ton of fun, pretty hooked. MC on Spear, Yangus on Hammer, Angelo with Bow, and Jessica with a dagger. I'm surprised at how fucking smooth the game is with the graphics it has. Wish more games on the 3ds were like this.

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>>386566815
>8 on PS2 over 3ds

but why

>>386566913
It ran really well on the PS2 too, considering the massive fucking draw distance they had on the world map for the time.

>>386567034
Not being 240p helps

>>386567034
Opinions.

The changes to 8 on the 3DS really only appeal to those who played it originally on PS2, if you have the choice, I'd say the PS2 version, but if you don't care and want portable, then 3DS.

In no way am I saying the 3DS version is bad, but performance wise it is lacking.

>>386563123
Literally any of them. VII is long af, so maybe save that for later.

>>386566389
Yeah but so far it's just for Japan. Japanese 3DS's can now play all of them.

>>386566389
And ps4 too

>>386567236
3DS balances a lot of the skills, making some not useless and some not overpowered, as well as new characters

Plus if it's hacked you can get the japanese voice actors if you're a weeb, which I assume you are because youre playing a dragon quest game.

VII > V > III > VIII > IV > VI > IX > I > II

is 7 on ps1 bad?

>>386566398
>Some GBC games even had bonus content unlocked when played in a GBA
Wait... what? Any examples? I know that a few DS games had quirks if you had a corresponding GBA game in the slot, but did not know about this

>>386567649
It's really fucking slow.

>>386567649
No, but the 3DS remake is just an overall upgrade

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3, 5 and 8 are generally touted as the series' best. I would avoid starting with 8, however, since it is the most different from the others in the series, and if you want to play 3, I would advise taking a day to clear DQ1 first (as the ending of 3 really falls flat if you have not played DQ1).

However, aside from the series referencing itself, the games are all pretty self-contained and you could reasonably start any of them as a first-timer without much issue.
If there's a game I'd say to avoid, it's DQ2, until you have a deeper appreciation for the series, as it is generally seen as the worst (though still not a terrible game).

>>386563365
It also has X and XI

So the 3DS can play every single Dragon Quest mainline game.

>>386567807
True, but only in Nippland

>>386567649
Pacing and such is completely fucked. You'll spend a few hours running around the starting island before you get to your first battle. 3DS speeds this up and adds enough more QoL changes that you shouldn't play the PS1 version unless you're a die-hard fan.

>>386567495
Wasn't aware that the 3DS version balanced skills enough to be that much different. As for patching Japanese language/music/etc, that's nice, but I don't think someone getting into the series is gonna care that much about it.

>>386567734
Shantae has a GBA Enhanced mode that activates when you stick it into a GBA that tweaks the color palette and lets you unlock Tinkerbat to play as

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>>386567649
What you have to understand about DQ7 is not that it is a bad game or not worth playing. It got a remake, after all, and it is the favorite in the series for many people.

The thing about DQ7 that it is legitimately one of the most bloated JRPGs ever made. With an average clear time of over 100 hours (and not that much shorter in the 3DS remake) and an average 100% clear time of over 200 hours, the game is just incredibly long and will consume you if you let it.
It also has a lot of backtracking, so I understand, and it was during the time that the games still had random battles--so combined with everything else, you would still burn time on fucking up random mobs as you went.

I would definitely suggest getting the 3DS remake if you can, as it is just a better game in every regard.

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>>386566440

I've started the series on the first game, and it's a damn chore, slowly pushing my way through it.

Probably going to jump to III if I finish this or end up giving up.

>>386567734
Not him, but the Oracle games had an "advance shop" when played on a GBA

>>386567785
>I would advise taking a day to clear DQ1 first (as the ending of 3 really falls flat if you have not played DQ1).

Can't I just read the manga instead

>>386563123

the first game is prehistoric, like it doesn't even have a party system, every fight is one on one and the plot is literaly "go defeat the demon lord", there is zero reason to play the first game outside of learning where jrpg began to be a thing

the second game is pretty much like the first game but with some improvements like being able to have a party

the third game has a rudimentary job system, some people like it, personaly i could never get into it

the first three games are avaiable for gameboy color, snes and i think maybe mobile?

the fourth game is were thing gets to a playable level, you get to play 4 different stories so there is some actual plot, one story is about a soldier, one is about a goofy fat merchant trying to save his business, one is about a kung fu princess and his two idiotic retainers and the last one is about two hot dark skinned sisters and then you get to play as the hero and gather all these people, it's an okay game

the fifth game is a classic, and i can see why, it's my favourite too, it's so popular it's also that was ancient enough to be on the snes and yet has a 3D remake on ps2, the thing that makes the fifth game special is that you play as a kid and basicaly the whole plot as him grow up, get married, get cucked by demon, it really makes the game feel special...

the sixth game is kinda boring, there is a job system again and there is one of those two world thing that i personaly find a bit tired and clichè

these are all on DS

the seventh game is loooooooooooooong and has pacing issues, it also has the worst job system i have ever seen where you get to pick between a class that tell you the name of the place you are or a class that can attack 4 times in a row without any cost, which do you think sound more useful? the thing that makes 7 particular is that it doesn't have a plot, instead it has multiple plot going on that are all kinda unique

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>>386566440
>V on DS
>Garbage
Let's not be too hasty. It has best girl, after all.

Oh look the typical bandwagon faggot who only cared about getting in to DQ when he saw lewd screenshots and instead of only getting 11 like he's interested in he needs to try fit in with the fanbase by telling himself he has to play the previous games.

Lmfao pathetic

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I think that the DS games look really bad.

At least the battlesprites/animations are really good

>>386568085

(continued)

like there is a town where a demon curses everyone to turn into animals so when you defeat the demon, a worse curse happen to them, they become furries (i wish i was joking but that's exactly what happens)

the eight game was made by level 5 and it looks fucking amazing, it has a plot, no job system, a nice OST, it's a solid game made by a solid dev

the ninth game is for DS, compared to 8 is a step back, your party is once again made by custom character, it has something similiar to 7 where it's mostly about self contained story but it's just not as cool

another thing that makes 9 lame is that a lot of content is post game but it has now become unaccesible unless you have any hacking tools because you needed to connect to nintendo server in order to do so, it also had a random dungeon where you were supposed to defeat the same monster over and over and over for special reward like equipment that make you look like previous character and it just bloated the game

the tenth game is a japan MMO that can't be played by dirty gaijin

>>386566815
You can marry Jessica on 3DS

>>386568085
>the first game is prehistoric
It literally invented the JRPG, so yes. It was the japanese trying to copy Ultima. If you look back at Ultima 3, it suddenly becomes clear why the JRPG genre evolved the way it did. DQ even adopted Ultima 3's party system, later, in DQ3.

>>386568080
Sure.

>>386568425
is marrying her a better ending than the original? I've heard some say it feels out of place compared to the original

>>386568306
They all use DQ7's engine. And I agree, it is fucking ugly compared to the SNES games or the later 3D games. I really don't like how they decided to remake the Zenithia trilogy in it for DS.

At least DQ9 looks nice.

>>386568304
>being elitist about fucking dragon quest
jesus christ sort your life out

>>386567907
I remember Twin Dragon Lash got nerfed so having whips with Jessica is terrible now. The eng voices are better than the jap. The music is really the only other thing you want to mod in.

>>386568471
>>386568080
I dunno. The thing to really pay attention to is how it uses some of the same maps from DQ1 to give the player a feeling of "wow, I've been here before!"
and "so this is what Loto did!" and I don't think that'll really come through in a manga.

>>386568682
I don't know who your ugly C-list celebrity is and I don't care.

Looks like my cousin's dumpy girlfriend.

>>386568543
Just telling the lad to be honest with himself.

He's just forcing himself to play the old DQ games so he's accepted in to the "fanbase" here in time of 11. I wouldn't have cared if he just wanted to play 11 but he's clearly begging it.

>>386568682
What is this from?

>>386568425
Yeah, but that wouldn't matter to someone who didn't play it originally and didn't know you couldn't.

>>386568502
It sorta does, but as above, I played the PS2 version first and marrying the princess felt more natural to the story.

>>386568029

Just use cheats. You'll just feel retarded having wasted all your time on the older, inferior games.

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>>386568768
Take it back

>>386568841
Try "title"
American.Horror.Story.S03E13

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>>386568029
>>386569396
DQ1 is really short though. Like it should only take a few hours to complete and most of that is just getting high enough level to beat the bosses.
Use a guide or something.

>>386568379
Thoughts about dragon quest heroes? Saw them on steam, and I've thought about getting them. Never played a dragon quest game before, so I was wondering if they would be worth trying or if they're more spinoffs than proper entries to the series.

>>386567034
The only thing the 3DS ver. has going is the Jessica option, if one isn't a Jessicafag then there's absolutely no value in getting the 3DS over the PS2 one.

>>386570229
They're Dyansty Warriors with a DQ skin.

>>386568502
It is mostly fanservice for those who liked Jessica better yes, I loved the addition since I didn't give two shits about the horse princess but I gotta say there was no effort to make new scenes where it is even implied before the ending that Jessica secrectly loved the Hero, only holding herself out of respect for the seemly fated marriage between him and the princess.

>>386570229
Any Musou is basically a love letter to fans of a franchise. You likely won't get much enjoyment out of them if you don't have any previous exposure to the characters, monsters, world, etc. Otherwise, they're good for Musou games.

>>386567563
>IX that low
Why? I absolutely adore that game.

>>386563365
>>386567807
You guys know the 3DS has SNES emulators right

>>386570575
Why? It's shit.

>>386570350
It has more attack options and magic attacks than any other Musou, it is not quite the same, although it isn't any better.

>>386570229

i haven't played them but honestly i find musou terribly boring outside of learning the plot of the three kingdom wars

Holy shit I'm really enjoying VII
V and VI didn't hold my attention for long enough to beat them. IX did
But man, VII is really fucking fun
I'm pretty sure I'm going to kill God soon

>>386570912
>outside of learning the plot of the three kingdom wars
It's heavily altered in the games though, a fair reason would playing due liking the new interpretations of the historical and fictional figures, which is my reason for playing them.

>>386571103
You have some peculiar tastes, VII is a title that takes its sweet time for events to happen while V was way faster in that aspect, yet VII held your attention better? Sure its good but I've never that argument being placed in favor of VII before.

>>386571469
Once the hero gets turned to stone and the game time skips for like the third time and you get stuck with your kids and their spic caretaker, I kinda clocked out. Might go back and try it again later

>>386570912
Are you me? The only reason I hung on and played through all the campaigns was cause I found the history blurbs and battle events so interesting. It certainly wasn't because of the gameplay.
That and Lu Bu.

>>386571469
Not him but outside of the first of the infamous first 2-4 hours VII is pretty engrossing, I didn't feel any fatigue until the last island

>>386571580
Based

>>386568607
>nerfing Twin Dragon Lash
For fucking shame. Whips were the only weapon she had that didn't suck. Were knives improved at all?

>>386571580
The spic soon fucks off. The kids are a real treat, though. They were my favorite characters in the whole game, I don't know how you didn't like them. The kid hero and his sister have some great banter and even a couple funny references to incest.

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>>386571887
>even a couple funny references to incest.
Are we talking about you and your wife, or them being incestuous?

>>386572035
Example:
>You and your kids go to an inn that has bunny girl servers.
>The boy mentions that the bunny girls made him feel funny when they winked at him.
>The little girl gets jealous, and says that the boy shouldn't pay attention to girls that aren't her.

>>386563123
I'll pick up XI when it comes to switch.

>>386569580
What was she from again on nick? I'm drawing a total blank on all shows besides ned's declassified

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>>386571469
VII is easily the best game in my mind, I say this as spmeone whose first DQ was DQV. DQV is a great game but the last third is kindof dull. I would say DQIII, DQIV, and DQVII are all better then DQV.

>>386566440
>>IV or V on ds
>Garbage.

why do you say this

>>386572293
That's not really incestuous that's just generic anime shit.

>>386573973
Well, it's a family oriented game. It wasn't going to be like, "oh onii-chan I want your prepubescent dick."

>>386573867
Not sure about V but IV is missing the party chat

Why do these games have horrible translations?

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>>386573973
Did someone say incest in family oriented media?

>>386574310
What are you talking about?

>>386563123
so can I fuck her or what?

>>386573867
Awful translations.

>>386574416
oy oy oy oy'm tawkin in ze accent, bruv an' me font is a fookin' sore on me eyes, wot wot

>>386574546
If it were an incest game, then yes.

>>386574693
Dinnae anyone talk like that inna game ye wee gobshite

>>386571193

Heavily altered in what way? Does guan yu survives and go on a picnic with liu bei or something?

>>386566913
>3ds
>smooth
Hahaha. Maybe if you like 15fps.

>>386574698
what kind of weeb game is this if you can't bang your sister slut? dropped.

>>386574806
Much of the cast in DW are "better person" versions of their novel and historical selves, many of the men commited stuff that would be considered war crimes today on a regular basis, their marriages and relationship with women were not as positive as seen in the game, many were just political marriages with no love involved while some other couples were constantly on each other's throats, Sima Yi and Chunhua are the perfect example of a couple that seemly detested each other according to certain texts.

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I've been playing through DQ8 as my first game in the series (well, I played a little of 7 but it didn't click with me), it's great so far, Yangus is such a fucking bro

>>386575176
A weeb game that has gotten the lowest rating possible so even toddlers can play it since its inception, but since the rating boards regulations in Japan, CERO, keep getting strictier every year, the games that won't dare to have their classifications changed will bow down and change anything accordingly.

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>>386567034

>>386563123

emulate V and VIII on PCSX2, then IX on nDS emulator

no need for a 3DS

>>386574315
There's a difference in placing references then and there that Kairi wanted to fuck Tai to outright having siblings marry. The fact that Digimon Adventure's director came out a decade later to confirm that shit means that was subtle enough for people to ponder but never be too sure about it.

No, they're releasing DQ1-3 on PS4, just wait for 3

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>>386566913
>8, for the 3ds

how can anyone say this with a straight face, holy shit

>no orchestrated music
>shit graphics
>shit fps
>the game lets you cuck your bro Yangus
>censored to hell and back

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http://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/183628?page=3
Just some new info about Switch version for non Jap speakers it basically says they are making some technical adjustments, the team isn't at a point where they feel comfortable talking about a release date, and they are 100% committed to finishing and releasing it.
One thing of note that no one can confirmed but Japs keep spreading is that they think Epic Japan is involved with the port.
>>386576483
>tfw saw the screenshots and its the fucking mobile port with shitty sprites
Fucking hell SE.

>>386576678
Yangus was never into Jessica.

>>386576678
>Not having a hacked 3DS if you're that autistic about the music
There was a patched .cia literally hours after the game was out you fucking faggot
And the game runs fine

>>386576678
>censored to hell and back
>1 costume that was changed before the release in Japan
>hell and back
This is why censorship faggots should kill themselves.

>using the word cuck
>not even knowing what they're talking about
Double kill yourself.

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>>386577126
>implying I'll waste my time with the downgraded 3ds version when I can have pic related

kek

>>386577517
>Not playing both
Whatever queerlord

>>386577517
One someone patches the PS2 version to have all the content I'll play that version.

VIII is better on 3ds only because you can speed up the slow as molasses battles and you remove Jessica and Angelo from your party.

>>386577738
>VIII is better on 3ds only because you can speed up the slow as molasses battles

gee, if only the pcsx2 had a turbo mode activated by pressing TAB or something like that...

>>386577640
That will never happen.

>>386577938
>emulation
Oh, we're dealing with a poorfag. Opinions completely discarded.

>>386576678
>the game lets you cuck your bro Yangus
>>>>fanfiction.net

People who saw anything between Yangus and Jessica are the same people that writes fanfictions, or just waiting to write one because someone has just clued them in that they are as delusional as a shipper can get.

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>>386578027
>can't refute
>''p-p-p-p-poorfag''

>DQ11 on 3DS implies Jessica's ending was canon
I doubt anyone is going to be mad.

>>386563123
Guys, I think I'm in love, is this what having a waifu feels like?

>>386578173
>implying all your opinions aren't based purely on the fact you're poor and have to defend your poorness
Your life can also go to the trash.

>>386576362
Wait, what? What did the director of Digimon Adventure confirm?

>>386578134
My guess is he might mean Red, Yangus and Red were more of a thing.

>>386578231
I haven't seen anything from the 3ds version, the ps4 version is getting all the attention

>>386579030
easier to record PS4 but even then the 3DS has the best exclusive content with the ability to travel to DQ1-9.
There's a shit ton of mini quests where you have to do shit like find Bianca's Sabercat who you can find in DQ8 at Chateau Felix

>>386579228
that's awesome

>>386579228
>with the ability to travel to DQ1-9
what

>>386581351
Some portals open up later in the game to take you to the worlds of those games, only on 3DS though.

>>386577517
When will citra get updated to upscale it correctly :(

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This game is goddamn beautiful, jesus.

>>386563123
Just pirate the old games, do NOT support the original developers.

>>386582720
Is this an attempt at reverse psychology

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Let's all thank our hero, lord and almost saviour, the great Ortega.

PS: If you complain to me about spoilers after checking the text then I'll know you're a DQ casual.

Which DQ games have satisfying end games?

9 just left my dick hanging out because the end game just fell off the Earth

>>386583795
All the remakes have an additional, optional endgame dungeon.
DQ4 for example has a whole extra chapter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi0FzkKZwik
>mobile port
no pls

>>386566389
Only in Japan and we don't know which versions yet.
If it's NES for 1 and 2 then it's shit anyway.

>>386583912
Anon, this is amazing. There was nothing wrong with the mobile ports of 1 and 2 aside from fucked up aspect ratio that made the pixels 1.5 pixel tall but 1 pixel wide so it was dogshit.
But this one has proper aspect ratio so I'm immediately interested and hope it comes out in English as well.

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>>386583912
fucks sake

>>386584706
The art is fucking terrible and the music is all over the place since they just rip the music from the orchestral CD except for the battle theme which they took the orchestral version and midified it.
A port of the SNES version would have been better.

>>386584724
Post above yours retard.
People parrotting shitting on mobile version without even knowing WHY people shat on it to begin with, aka people like you, should be gassed.

>>386583795
But 9 is the one with the largest post game content selection. Mostly because of the grottos and the dlc legacy bosses.

Should I get the PS4 version of XI if I want something with full animations and uncensored clothing?

>>386583912
jesus
someone in japan actually thinks this is ok

>>386585506
Both have the same animations since Cero forces them to if they want the lowest possible rating.

>>386568306
>I think that the DS games look really bad.
no taste desu
you don't deserve wild arms 2

>>386585506
>uncensored clothing

what?

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>>386585506
Depends if you want those mini extras. I think the PS4 is the way to go.

>>386585858
I was assuming they go with DQ8's design sensibilities or do they not?

>>386585981
Not sure what you mean but the Japanese rating system has changed over the years so its not going to be as lewd as DQ8 PS2

>>386585745
What are you talking about?

>>386585981
both versions of dq11 are censored
dq8 3ds started new outfit standards sadly

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>>386567034
Because ps2 isn't censored

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>>386586250
If the PS2 version was rerelease now they would have to change it or get a higher rating in Japland.
Enix refuses to let that happen.

>>386585981
Both PS4 and 3DS versions of DQ11 are self-censored even in Japan since CERO ratings changed over the past decade and became much stricter.
For example the Divine Bustier outfit (it's in DQ11 as well, returned from DQ8) has same censorship as the 3DS version of DQ8 (which again is censored even in Japan due to CERO being stricter). Namely the tighs are no longer exposed nor is skin visible behind the parts where the corset is sewn.
Same with the Bunny Outfit which returned from DQ8, but now has a jacket on top of the entire thing to cover up the entire top of the body.

>>386585902
Is there anything out right now that comes close to DQ 11 graphics and design? Only thing I can think of is BOTW

>>386585981
The old recurring costume designs changed because of CERO ratings becoming much more anal. Not really censorship, they just wanna keep the kiddie rating. It's more like a retcon.

>>386586250
*as far as you know

>>386586589
No anon, it's not a retcon. It's self-censorship.

>>386586394
lol i keep thinking about botw while playing dq11 thanks to the grass
it also has the blue light effect at night

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>>386586394
>>386586809
The character models too are so damn well done. Even the fabric of the clothes.

>>386586763
I don't see why it has to be mutually exclusive. It's definitely a retcon either way though.

>>386586250
Horii game a reason for doing this, though. He said because Jessica is now a marriageable option, dressing her up like a whore is unsavory. That she should be treated her with a little more respect because she can be your wife.

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>>386586928
do you have a ps4 pro?
i keep wondering if its worth it for this game

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>>386587280
Runs butter smooth on the reg PS4

>>386586589
Eh, that sucks. Toriyama's art shouldn't be meddled with like that

>>386587280
Not him but the game runs 900p on stock ps4 and 1700p or something like that on Pro.
The weird thing is it doesn't upscale at all to 4K and just sits at the 1700p but it does suffer from a weird motion blur bug with the grass due to the checker boarding.
If you have a PS4 its fine no need to upgrade if you don't have a PS4 and want that version buy which ever one you want.

>>386587368
Is it 900p? That looks a bit too blurry to be 1080p

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I'm about 10 hours into XI.

It's okay. It's basically exactly what I expected; it's DQ but in HD.

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>>386587249
They censored the female warrior npc too along with red. Fuck off

>>386587536
Native 900p with rock solid 30 FPS on regular PS4 and proper framepacing.
1800p (3200x1800) with again rock solid 30 FPS and proper framepacing on PS4 Pro.

It's the ONLY difference, they didn't improve visuals in any way on Pro other than resolution bump.

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pic from my regular ps4
good framerate but feels like im missing out resolution-wise

>>386587249
Bullshit fake news garbage you're posting here, they never gave a single official reason other than saying there were some changes they had to make to keep the All Ages ratings for it since CERO became stricter.

>>386587536
see
>>386587483
Its a mixture of 900p and UE4's TXAA
Honestly it's probably the best looking game on the PS4

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>>386587483
>>386587536
Wow so it could look even more crisp?
Thats insane.

>>386587280
I've been playing on the regular PS4 and it still looks great. Noticed some poor framerate in one of the towns when they throw a big market but it's been good aside from that.

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>>386587906
Pretty much, its not a massive thing but it is sharper.
I really want to see the Switch version honestly, my hope is that they shoot for 900p with some effects dialed back, especially since the game is segmented meaning they could use more tricks to reach their goal.
I guess they've said stuff that implied the entire team is now working on the Switch version since the game is out but who knows.
They could either make the best portable DQ game or an absolute mess.
I just hope they don't hit the PORT TO SWITCH button on UE4 and call it a day.

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are there any ps4/ps4 pro comparison pics?

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>mfw learning about Rou being your grandfather and his past
I wasn't ready, I thought they would just be a throwaway character to round out your party.
All of the party seem pretty good this time around.

>>386568795
>gatekeeping
>no fun allowed

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>>386588378
Go to digital foundry they did a whole video comparing it.

>>386570650
it's objectively the best one

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>>386587249
Nice news print you've gotten in your ass there my good sir, no official reason has been given for the changes, the only thing people especulate it to be is the CERO regulations which saw major revisions over the past 8 years, Dragon Quest is a series Square-Enix will always keep CERO A in Japan, no matter what, but since what makes an A Rated game has changed, they didn't think twice when changing the game instead of bumping the rating to CERO B or C.

>>386588378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svx2_6-NP5Y

>>386575761
no one cares

>>386588984
typical bird
u lot just wudn't understand

>>386587693
>>386587845
I remember reading that here. I guess that was just made up, then.

>>386563123
I've only played IX but I'm enjoying it, custom characters vaguely remind me of EO.

MIDI music and lack of voice acting in PS4 version are unforgiveable.
I'll still play it if it gets translated but I'll just grab the 3DS version since it won't be as jarring there.

>>386578430
Yeah, my dad who works at Microsoft told me

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>>386588696

>>386589321
Explain how III is objectively better than IX then.

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>>386589145
No VA is not a big deal at all.

>MIDI Music
Hah, what?

>>386586763
>self-censorship
no such thing

>>386589524
III is a complete game and outstanding for its era while IX is an empty husk of dead online and multiplayer features.

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>>386563123

You can play every game except DQI-III on a 3DS. And soon they are porting I-III to 3DS as well.

As for which game is best to start with, V if you like story focus or VIII if you like open world exploration and item crafting. Or just start with the first game and play them in order if you're okay with hard RPGs.

>>386587406
>Toriyamafags
ugh

>>386589725
IX has a full single player story though. Online was only required for optional content.

>>386589589
The MIDI overworld and battle track are garbage. It'll drive you insane.

>>386587729
>rock solid 30 FPS
I hope you aren't implying that's acceptable

>literally the most basic JRPG of all time
>needing an "entry point"

what?
this is like asking which version of solitaire to start with

>>386589809
The battle theme is alright. I agree that the overworld theme is shit though.

>>386568004
I don't get this 100 hour meme, I beat it in like 55-60 hours and I was grinding at certain points. It's a long game and I didn't really like it, but it's not 100+ hours unless you're collecting monsters and shit.

>>386589589
>Hah, what?
It has synthesized music that tries really hard to sound like something akin to 16-bit game.

Lack of VA is extremely big deal if you've got very smooth talking animations and so on that CLEARLY look like they were made for voices but no voice comes out. It's terrible and I suspect they just cut costs or plan to re-release it with voice acting later down the line.

As such it's 3DS for me since the game is jarring as fuck on PS4 with no VA.

>>386589850
For an RPG with no reaction based skills required yes.

>>386589850
>slow, turn-based game needs high framerate

>>386589765
What's wrong with liking his artwork? His work in DQ is iconic

>>386589850
It is in a turn based JRPG like this one.
I'll take the way it looks at 30 FPS instead of much shittier looking one at 60 FPS when framerate literally doesn't even matter here thanks to being turn based.

>>386589879
>which version of solitaire to start with
well which one then?

>>386568502
Yes. You get two endings. First is the normal ending with Jessica instead of horse girl. Second is you give Jessica the ring and marry her at the cathedral. Total of 4 endings.

2 regular with either girls, you only need to witness a scene at Jessica's hometown before the end game to trigger her alternative ending. 2 different endings in the post game ending in marriage with either girl.

I hate this "A wild X appeared" type thing for every random battle in XI. And there's no way to turn it off or even skip it.

>>386589958
>plan to re-release it with voice acting later down the line.


>DQ XI becomes the new FF XV
>released unfinished
>devs are forced to work on it for years afterward as Squeenix apologizes to the fans

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>>386589958
I've played games that had talking animations with no VA before. It's not that jarring.

It only really feels a little weird during cutscenes like the intro one.

>>386590137
spider is clearly superior

>>386590220
youll get over it

>>386590280
>It only really feels a little weird during cutscenes like the intro one.
What the fuck do you think I was talking about? Of course I'm talking about cutscenes. I don't want every single NPC conversation to be voiced, but the cutscenes at the very fucking least should be voiced.
If it doesn't break your immersion then more power to you but for me it completely shatters the suspension of disbelief.

>>386590349
No, it just gets more annoying.
It will never go aay.

where the FUCK is the Switch port?

>JRPGs that were drawn by the guy who drew Dragon Ball
never even knew this existed until today but I am hyped

>>386590542
As of today they started working on it full time

>>386589958

>It's terrible and I suspect they just cut costs
The article has been linked a billion times. Yuji Horii made the decision not to have voice acting long before the game went into production. And its just laughable that you think a game of this budget would withhold on voices. Even low cost shitty JRPGs that sell less than 100,000 copies still get voice acting. If anything, Dragon Quest XI not having voice acting is helping it stand out.

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>>386590638

Weak bait anon.

>>386589795
>IX has a full single player story though.

IX has several small stories loosely tied together by an (bad) overarching background plot, with a poor ending.
Also the bot partymembers lack any characterization whatsoever and are an enormous disappointment coming off of any of the other DQs.

>>386589765
Errrrrr what

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>>386590638

>>386590667
>If anything, Dragon Quest XI not having voice acting is helping it stand out.
Yeah, it's helping it stand out by not selling at all to people like me, quality decision right there mate.
All he did is drove another gargantuan nail into the coffin of this series in the west because I guarantee you that once it comes out in English (and still don't feature voice acting for at least the cutscenes) then people all over will shit over that particular aspect. The 16-bit like music will also get a lot of flak.
Shit like this is simply not acceptable for AAA game in this day and age and even it doesn't matter what the developer himself says, to the general public, the average John Doe, it just looks like a very lazy attempt at cutting costs.

If you cared about the series in the west and it actually selling more than 20.000 copies worldwide outside of Japan, then you'd know why it's a fucking terrible decision.

>>386569580
>White Knighting for a celebrety
Pathetic, end yourself.

>>386590542
being developed. 11 was in development before switch was announced, and likely given to square as a devkit.

>>386590784
>Also the bot partymembers lack any characterization whatsoever and are an enormous disappointment coming off of any of the other DQs.
Like the deep and well characterized party members in III. for example?

>>386591007
>it's helping it stand out by not selling at all to people like me
So retards?

>>386591007
JRPG voice acting is so terrible keeping it text is an improvement

>>386590784
you can't really do much in terms of characterization with personally created party characters

>>386590784
True, even DQ III had more character and relevance in its party members, especially for the merchant quest. In DQ IX there are entire plot points where the presence of your party members would've immediately solved the issue, but oops, they're gone now for some reason.

>>386591117
>having bare minimum standards is being retarded
Whatever floats your boat, enjoy the series never being brought over in the west again for 10 years after DQ11 bombs.

>>386591213
and we'll all enjoy your presence in these threads when they inevitably add voice acting for the western release and your new complaint will be how awful it sounds.

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>>386591007

>Yeah, it's helping it stand out by not selling at all to people like me, quality decision right there mate.
Oh no. How will a game that sold over 2 million copies in one week ever survive if you don't buy it!

>All he did is drove another gargantuan nail into the coffin of this series in the west because I guarantee you that once it comes out in English (and still don't feature voice acting for at least the cutscenes) then people all over will shit over that particular aspect.
Most people won't even notice or care. Voice acting was a huge deal in the PS2 era. Now adays, it's so standard that people don't even notice voices at all, unless they're bad. Like the voices in Breath of the Wild. That game would have definitely benefited by having no voices.

>Shit like this is simply not acceptable for AAA game in this day and age
Or you can just realize Dragon Quest XI isn't trying to be the typical AAA game like Final Fantasy XV was trying to be. And thank god. That's why DQXI looks like it will be good.

>>386591213
Not every game needs voice acting and chances are, if it did have voice acting then people like you would shit on it for being inferior to the Japanese dub anyways.

At least with text, I'm not forced into hearing some basic bitch drone on as she flatly reads her lines in monotone. Besides, don't most people skip cutscenes anyways?

>>386591318
>and we'll all enjoy your presence in these threads when they inevitably add voice acting for the western release and your new complaint will be how awful it sounds.
Not really. If it gets voice acting then it will most certainly be DQ8 tier and that was perfectly fine.
Not to mention Squeenix dubs in general are substantially better than competition.

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>>386591443
>Squeenix dubs in general are substantially better than competition

>>386589943
Howlongtobeat.com has it at 100 hours for a normal playthrough and 200 for 100% completion.
I haven't played it myself, but that's the hearsay, and that the 3DS cuts down tremendously on things that waste your time.

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>>386591443
>Not to mention Squeenix dubs in general are substantially better than competition.

Play V. It's the only one worth a damn.

One you've played one, you've played them all.

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What are these things?

>>386591007
As a person who isn't really a big DQ fan, I realize completely why it is loved by its fans so far. It stays true to its nature. For it to cater to the west just for people who normally wouldn't even glance in the game's direction would be a betrayal to the whole reason why DQ is as loved as it is.

Its not that big of an issue that you're making. You'll get used to it.

>>386591443

>If it gets voice acting then it will most certainly be DQ8 tier and that was perfectly fine.
This level of delusion just shows how stupid dubfags are. Dragon Quest VIII didn't even have great voices. It had one, Yangus. Every other voice in the game was lackluster compared to what 'good' voice acting would be. Especially Trode, Medea, Marcello and pretty much every NPC who got a voice. In just the starting town alone, the exchange between the bartender and the seer should be enough to get you to turn off the voices.

Most people like you who obsess over voice acting wouldn't know good voice acting if you heard it.

>>386591007
The difference between westerners and japanese, the post. Does it also bother you that the game uses a traditional turn-based JRPG style rather than being an ARPG like FFXV?

What you need to understand is that the game trying to stay true to its roots is something the japanese appreciate. They like that it still uses the iconic 8 bit sounds, the synth music and the pure text-driven narrative. Because that's how the series has been presented for decades.

When DQIX was first revealed, it was going to be an action RPG. 2chan exploded with rage. Japan came absolutely unglued about it. They ended up scrapping the game and completely starting over because of the backlash.

Only westerners care about the things you are complaining about. And you can bet that these things will probably change for western audiences because I'm sure SE is aware of this - but understand that in Japan, things are very different. This is not laziness. This is what the consumers want.

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>>386591718

>another guy comes off an an idiot while Onsokumaru making reasonable and logical responses
Dragon Quest truly is an amazing series to make this happen.

DQ11 will sell 5M at minimum in japan if you combine its 3 versions, the west is irrelevant.

>>386592015
I WANT TO Fhold and tenderly kiss THE PRINCESS OF MOONBROOKE

>>386591948
What is the Japanese reception to DQXI so far?

>>386589958
>Lack of VA is extremely big deal if you've got very smooth talking animations and so on that CLEARLY look like they were made for voices but no voice comes out.

Dude, you have an imagination. Just used that to fill in the blanks.

>>386592209

The west isn't irrelevant. If DQXI sold 1 million more in the west, then it would match the sales of FFXV. If it sold 1.5 million like DQVIII and IX did, then it would surpass FFXV, showing SquareEnix that Final Fantasy is no longer their worldwide powerhouse IP.

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>>386592359

There isn't one. Everyone is too busy playing the game to talk about it.

It got a perfect score in Famitsu though. But that's not exactly hard to do these days.

>>386592575
Final Fantasy is for foreigners, Dragon Quest is for Japan they don't care if we don't like them, they are not particularly expensive games to make

>>386592703
Muh wife

>>386592735

>all my understanding of games comes from ignorant things I heard on the internet 15 years ago

>>386593161
enjoy more of your FFXV voice acting, open world and real time combat, whiteu piggu

>>386593492

I'm the one arguing Dragon Quest XI is good for not focusing on that stuff, idiot.

>>386593801
stay mad, virgin

>>386566692
The 3DS version looks nicer, and has many little adjustments to make the game more modern. A lot of puzzles and rooms have been changed or removed to make progression a lot faster. The random encounters are replaced for enemies on screen that you can choose to avoid. A lot of the changes are positive, but you might hear a couple of complaints from hardcore fans that the game does a lot more hand holding than before. I don't think it's all that bad, because the original was at times obtuse and without a doubt is way way too long, and I think the 3DS version fixed these complaints.

>>386594032

>angryreply.jpg

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>>386586250
Whatever do you mean?

>>386594368
your mother sucks big fucking nigger dicks

>>386594440
>using the fan patch
I am not hacking my 3ds, pirating the game and then apply the patch for shit that should not have been changed

>>386594529
Well you bitched about censorship and i came to BTFO you. From that point i dont care how much of a faggot you are about hacking your system. Also the patch works on official copies too.
tl.dr: moralfags btfo

>>386594716
>Well you bitched about censorship and i came to BTFO you.
You didn't the full retail copy is still censored and should not be fucking supported or played no matter the reason. To do so is to show them that this is ok to do. it is not ok

>>386594818
Well no amount of bitching and crying is gonna change that. Is a 100% fact. While you cry about it, hacked users gets the VIP treatments with mods.

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>wah Censorship!
It blows my mind how much people complain about two dresses being changed. Yet turn around and actually advocate for dialects and voice acting which changes the entire story and characters of the game.

ugh, i'm gonna have to preorder both versions, have a ps4 and 3ds. really dig the 2d look, full on throwback to nes/snes dq

>>386595412
The art is not trivial to some people since the stylization is classic to many. But I do hope they do better localizations though

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Savage

>>386595527

I'm buying both versions as well. Nothing to be ashamed about. This game will be worth it unlike Smash Bros 4.

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How do you feel about Maribel?

>>386595632
Wont matter since it will be censored in the jap version as well since Cero wont let them have a low rating and keep the old outfits.

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>>386595632

That's probably the case. Visual changes are easy to recognize and complain about. But few people realize what's been altered and 'censored' in a translation. Ignorance truly is bliss.

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>>386596149

Tsundere done right.

>>386595990
Nobody cares you attention whore

>>386596326
True. I'm still glad how DQ11 looks at least.

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かっこいい~!

>>386596604
What is this screenshot from?
That looks like the Vita res

They're all fine entry points in terms of gameplay (except the first one), but I think you'd be best off giving either IV or V the first shot. IV has one of the strongest casts of any game in the series by virtue of everyone getting their own story, and V is one of the strongest stories.

After that, feel free to play whatever. I would just not recommend trying to play them all at once, and as a special note, don't play VII unless you're prepared for a really fucking slow burn.

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>>386596149

Probably my favorite girl in the series. It's weirdly refreshing how much of an absolute bitch she is.

Also helps that her only real competition is one of the most boring nothing characters I've ever had to use in a video game.

>>386596721

>wears a ring and a bracelet
Stuck up rich whore.

>>386563123
8 is unironically the best Dragon Quest game ever.

DQVIII PS2 or 3DS?

>>386597558
That's from the ps4. You retard

Can anyone show me how martina will look like on 3ds?
Or how every character will look like on it? I want to play the game, but if everyone looks ugly when they're chibified or whatever it is called I will not get it for 3ds. Why didn"?'t they just keep the dragon quest 8 character heights?

>>386598164
both
ps2->3ds
for maximum enjoyment

>>386591179
>merchant quest
not him, but isn't that DQIV?

>>386591583

this

>>386563123
Is IX a good start point? Got it cheap used.

>>386598669
Torneko Taloon is one of the chapters in DQ IV where you do merchant stuff. In DQ III you need to bring a merchant to a barren settlement and he builds a town there that grows over time, eventually ending with him growing corrupt and then imprisoned by the townspeople. You need to do this to get one of the orbs to get the godbird.

>>386568236
>When she says how glad she is that you married her and how much she loves you.
She really is a best

>>386598751
play V or VIII first
IX is kind of easy compared to the other games

>>386595990
Did he just squeeze his dick?

>>386574315
>All these years of people shipping Takeru and Hikari
>Turns out Takeru wasn't in love with her because he's a playboy in Tri
>Truth is that Takeru was the one to unearth Hikari's secret
>Hikari's incest feelings are the reason why Takeru never fell for her

Takerua wasn't trying to cockblock Diasuke in 02. He was trying to stop Diasuke from figuring out the truth of Hikari because the nigga would not shut up and make everything worse.

>>386598751
IX was my first DQ. It's a good entry point if you're an MMO addict like me.

>>386598937
So that's a nah?
I guess I'll just sell it then. I refuse to emulate, I support emulators but playing them kills any will for me to play if the games are long like DQ.

>>386599143
I only play Elsword does that count?

>>386599170
IX is one of the game that's encouraged to use emulator instead of the original cartridge because you need cheats/access to save file in order to unlock the additional contents.

>>386599170
just play it
you might enjoy it, if you do go play the other games
however most of the post game is dlc content so the best way to enjoy it is emulating it and cheating in the dlc

>>386599362
Eeh, sounds terrible.
Alright looking like a skip then, maybe I'll keep it in backlog. Games over 10 hours aren't really something I will enjoy if I have to emulate.
>>386599487
Are the 3DS ones any good? Might get them on sale next year if I run out of stuff to play.

>>386599362
>>386599487

To be specific, a huge chunk of IX was distributed for free through the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection, which got shut down year ago. If you were to get it now, there is literally no legal way of getting all of that content onto the cartridge.

>>386599649
>Are the 3DS ones any good?
yes
all of them are great

>>386599649
The other way is to play it using flashcart on your nds/3ds and unlock the content using cheat codes. But in the end you still won't be using the original cartridges.

>>386599759
Elaborate. The only thing I know about the series is the general phrase people throw around for it, "generic JRPG done the best way possible" which doesn't tell me that much in terms of detail.
>>386599675
I hate that DS/Wii WiFi shut off.
>>386599882
I don't have a flashcart, although I'm less averse to that than emulation. I just have a DQIX cart in a dirty, ripped up case with a shitty paper label that says "dragon quest nintends" on the front.

>>386567034
50" vs 4"

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Im liking this game so far.

>>386600053
>Elaborate. The only thing I know about the series is the general phrase people throw around for it
V and VIII are great entry games since it gives you a overall idea what this series is about
you can still play IX and have a great time with it

How is Heroes II?

>>386600604
Honestly its Eh, like they fixed some problems with Heroes 1 but introduced more.
Really the main reason people bring it up now is for console wars.

>>386600487
Alright, still doesn't tell me much but thanks anyway.
Even with the vast amounts of permalocked content?

>>386600843
>Even with the vast amounts of permalocked content?
yes
all you're missing out on some post game quests which aren't all that great
the main story is nice

They're going to remake III for the PS4, arent they.

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>>386599075
I think he had a thing for her

>>386601253
>postgame
Ah. Well that's less terrible than I expected but still meh. I'll give it a go anyway, going to delete the brat who had it before's save, he looks like he played it for an hour and dropped it. Not like I'm deleting anything losable, since you said it's postgame only. Sorry "Bman."

>>386601537
its only additional 64 quest
the base game has like 120 quest

>>386601953
Holy shit that's over a third of the quests
what the fuck

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcOdCTjal3I

>>386566440
>Start with III
Starting with 3 completely ruins the some of the greatest piece of fanservice Dragon Quest has ever had.

>>386591007
You don't even care about the game

>>386601261
3 had remakes already. Last time was 7 and 8, now it's 9's turn.

>>386601261
No 3 is already on PS4.

>>386601229
>Not the NES versions of everything

boo

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So how is DQ XI anyway? Thinking I've played I-IX (not X because I haven't felt like jumping through hoops to play it). Was thinking about getting DQ XI sometime this year.

>>386603273
Do you like 7/9
If yes you will like 11.

Man Builders is surprisingly alright.
Does Dragon Quest just have that magic touch?

>>386603341

Like VII, not terribly fond of IX. Why bring them up though? I didn't think XI had jobs. Though it was more like DQ XIII's skill system.

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Is Sylvia really a girl?

She's so flat I was certain she was a guy.
But Kamyu called him/her a girl, Sylvia said he/shes a girl too.

>>386602936
>now it's 9's turn.
But the main draw to 9 was the multiplayer, and DQX already fulfills that purpose to a greater extent.

>>386603572
Basically it uses some of the QoL improvements from 9.

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>>386603273

I'd give it a 10/10/10/10 [40/40].

>>386603769

>Famitsu

Ha.

Im gonna wait for XI on the switch since I mainly play on that and PC. Should I start with one on the NES and just go from there or..?

>>386603851

I started with the first one and just went from there. It was fun, but I didn't really get into DQ until the third one. The first two are just alright. I'd recommend the SFC remakes, but the NES ones should be fine if you want to play the original versions.

>>386603851
Just start with 1 on NES, GBC or SNES

>>386603981
What are the SNES remakes called? Im guessing theyre Japanese only and dont have an English release? I have one of those modded Xboxs my brother made when I was younger that has like every game from the NES and SNES USA library on it but not many famicon games.

>>386604387
oh hows the phone version, since I could play that on breaks at work?

>>386604387

One is just Dragon Quest I & II, the other is just Dragon Quest III. They both have translation patches.

>>386604551

Not sure, I haven't played the mobile versions. May want to play the phone version of IV though since it has party chat, which was removed from the English version of the DS version of IV, due the the localizers fucking around with accents too much and running out of time.