What are your opinions on draenei race and culture?

Pro.

But I wouldn't ever have one as my spaceship pilot.

>>386559076
"Holy demons" was a neat design idea, I wish 90% of the draenei weren't GIRLs

>>386559247
>demons

You fucking wot m8? Draenei are the opposite of what demons are lol.

>>386559076
Pandaren women are better

More boring than I thought it was going to be when BC first dropped
Exodar and TK are cool to look at though + non-traditional spaceship designs are my jam

>>386559357
>Opposite of Demons

>Holy Demons.

Are you an actual dumb-dumb?

>>386559357
Your post physically harmed me.

The porn is nice

>>386559247
50% of draenei females have dicks so it works out

>>386559076
why did that cunt stop drawing that character?

>>386559406
So Human Paladins are "holy demons" too right using that logic?

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>>386559503

>>386559503
Also does this mean Unholy Non-Demons is an accurate way to describe Demons?

>>386559503
In fact since every race except 1(Orc) can be either Pally of Priest, does this mean EVERY non-Orc race is a "holy demon"?

I wish their fans weren't such fucking faggots.

>>386559681
Shitty lorefag here.

Orcs can't be paladins because they have no biological connection to the light like all the other races. They were made by a titan.

>>386559486

He came back to it recently

>>386559076
Built for sex.

>>386560012
Okay. That still doesn't explain why Draenei and only Draenei is being singled out here as being "holy demons" purely because they believe in the light and not the fel(like you know, most playable races?)

>>386560012
>No connection to the Light
>Made By a Titan.
>Earthen became Dwarves which can be Paladins.
>Vrykul were created by Titans and then became fleshy and then became humans
>The Old gods caused these transformations.
>The Olds Gods are the true source of The Light.

What did Blizzard mean by this?

>>386559486
For the same reason he stopped drawing good stuff overall.

>>386560105
he barely does anything anymore and his art has gotten way worse

>>386560012
But Humans can be paladins.
So can dwarves.

>>386559076
Fine, would be better if their women didn't have 20 inches long horse cocks ready to fuck any living being in the vicinity

>>386559076
Great concept with some supremely shitty writing behind it.
>Oh mr orc you just HAD to commit genocide on us because demons totally made you do it :(
>Oh no mr blood elf you totally ran out of your magic soda I guess it's okay that you tried to commit genocide on us and gangraped an angel in your basement for a year :'(
Of all people in the universe they should be least tolerant of other races taking the evil and easy way out.

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>>386559076
Literally one of the hottest fantasy species ever created, and I'm not even a furry.

>>386560012
No. Its because they have never connected with the Light, instead they drank the fel and destroyed their own planet. And they werent made by Titants, they are some kind of devolved or evolved ogres.

>>386559357
Uh, They designed draenei as a twist on demons. horns and hooves, y'know? Instead of demony corruption (like the succubi) they wanted them to look natural with the already established paladin aesthetic. paladins are holy aura, and draenei were suppose to have demon traits.

The the design was "holy demons"

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>>386560227

Artists suffer slump sometimes

>>386560198
Blizzard is shit at explaining the Light. On one hand it's this force of power that is powered by your strength of conviction and belief in it. On the other hand there is the Narru who are just concentrated light.

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>>386560148
It's because if they use any sort of Fel magic they turn into actual demons. It's basiclly poison to them.

Pic related.

>>386560484
Because only demons have ever had horns or hooves.

Never heard of a goat before?

>>386559076
I like them fine, YES YES

I was indifferent to them before, but after WoD and how much Blizzard pushed these snowflakes I've grown to hate them. Yrel in particular is more obnoxiously a Mary Sue than any other two characters put together.

>>386559076
My favorite race, my main was a refrigerator pally. They were the one race that seemed to have their sights set on the true enemy.

At least they were, not sure where they are lorewise at the moment

>>386560497
yeah a slump that have been going on for years now

I've always loved the female Draenei. The males are hideous and look like a different race almost.

>>386560562
Finally someone actually explains it. Thanks.

"holy demons" is still an inaccurate way to describe them. They're creatures who have the potential to become demons if they use fel, but are not demons in their holy state.

>>386560497
He really needs to ditch the anime influences he has for Hair and Faces

>>386560785
Agreed.

Female Draenei are one of my favorite designs ever.

>>386560785
I liked them better when they were called Eredar and looked edgy as fuck.

Gotta agree on the females, though.

>>386560717
>At least they were, not sure where they are lorewise at the moment

They're literally taking us to Argus to take it back from the Legion.

>>386559076
Am I a furry because dranaei give me a boner?

>>386561282
no

>>386559076
Lore abomination thats only stomached because the women make for good hentaibait.

>>386561282
No. They're literally designed to be sexy as fuck.

They was they stand arches their back so their tits and ass jut out.

Also, Russian accent.

>>386561026
Good to hear, I thought they were gonna give all the credit to Illidan.

Somebody told me Velen's become all "fuck all o' y'all" ala Jaina Proudmore. True or gross exaggeration?

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>>386560627
The general image of a demon is heavily based on the Greek mythological Satyr, which means humanoids with goat-like features. Blizzard took those traditionally demonic features and used them for creatures that embody holiness. This isn't some obscure renaissance mythology, even the most retarded mouthbreather can watch South Park and get this.

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>>386560808

The alternative is this Tumblr bullshit

>>386559076
I liked them back in warcraft 3. Its pretty dumb they never got rogue as a class even though this best unit in warcraft 3 was a fucking assassin who could perma cloak.

>>386561373
Don't forget the vibrator joke.

>>386560627
Are you implying the idea of a Goat/Bull person hasn't been around for at least over half a millennia?

And turning them blue and hairless a completely unique concept?

>>386561459
i like it

>>386560785
They are suppose to have the superhero look. With broad shoulders and powerfully built chest. Which is also why the seemingly push them forward.

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>>386560650
sums up my opinion pretty nicely

the character designs are okay but the female models look so wobbly. if there were build options and i could make one a little thicker and sturdier, i'd maybe be able to play alliance without hating myself.

all that being said, female tauren are better in literally every way

>>386561378
He got salty because we killed his son but now he got to "redeem" his old pal Kil'Jaeden, so I guess he's cool.

>>386561378

After you defeat the Avatar of Sargeras KJ runs back to the portal and Velen is like lol no you didn't, he is the first to go through the portal to kill KJ in the twisting nether

GOAT PUSSY

>>386561649
Which is stupid because his son was a demon and was not killed in the Nether so he will just be reborn again in a while.

>>386561642
>2 quel'delars
rrrrrreeeeeeeeeee

>>386560497
Man, he drew some of the best anal queens

>>386561752

He won't since we're gonna defeat the thing that resuscitates demons (Argus' Titan soul) at the end of the xpac

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>>386561752
That's actually a good point.
wtf Velen

>>386561459
I mostly meant how his old style the faces were much less round and had actual chins, The mouths didn't look strange and the hair was more stylistic,

Compare >>386559076 to >>386560497

>>386561889
That wasn't relevant at the time of the mission so Velen being butthurt still does not make sense.

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>>386561373
you mean tech support accent

>>386561752
>>386561894

Velen despaired because he thought his son was dead, instead he came back as a manaari

>>386559076
I for one am happy that the Blood Elves will one day evolve into a race of magically potent, horsecocked, russian dickgirls.

>>386562029
But they aren't Indian.

>>386562029
How about "inconsistent accent"?

>>386560650
They pushed the orcs a helluva lot more in WoD and it'd be pretty dumb for the Draenei to not get a little love in an expansion set on their previous home

And they'd done fuckall for the last like 3 expansions.

>>386562029
I always thought they were Arabic

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>>386559486
So he could watch his wife get fucked by other men for a living like a true cuck.

>>386561816
I always thought it was funny that Monara gets butthurt anytime someone calls her a (butt)slut considering she fucks just about every thing that moves

>>386560423

I don't understand how the draenei in WoD were losing to the iron horde. It's pretty clear they had superior technology and a more organized military. Does the goblin technology that Garrosh brought make that much of a difference?

>>386562619
Numbers matter a lot.

>>386562619
Horde had the numbers and had lived on the planet much longer. The Draenei are just a small amount of Eredar who left to avoid joining the Legion and were still recovering from that at the time.

>>386562842
Not to mention slowly being hunted down over a few hundred years or so.

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I grew to dislike the push of them in WoD after a while and the confusion and forced feelings of it all.

However, Legion was able to push for it more and I would have liked Maraad to have fallen in this expansion then the BS in Warlords and the time travel fucking shit where all the good ideas were tossed out like the giant fucking time displacement capital we also could have gotten.

Legion is the first time the Draenei story is ever pushed since BC besides learning how the Draenai have attempted to fit in with Wrath showing them commiting forces and being treated as odd outcasts by the humans and the like, Cata as working with the Earthen Ring and having some of them fall for the viles and greed since I remember some join the Pirates if I remember and Mists giving a SI:7 Medic who is almost always confused by certain practices by the Alliance and certain wonderments others do or something. Best I can remember since I am a Horde player still wanting my Ogres with all the excuses on why we don't see female Ogres for so long.

>>386562619
Blackrock is almost indestructable when cooled, But it is easily malleable when heated up or something. Goblin designs made with the great metal certainly fuck up most things instead of mutating a disease with fel to gas the city. Only thing I can argue is perhaps since Velen was dead, There was no giant barrier to save them

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>>386562842
Draenei are magical utopian magical demigods with normal birth rates that spent hundreds of year on Draenor. Orcs were just a few hunter gatherer tribes.
The Draenei should have outnumbered them 10:1 and kicked them all the way back to their poop huts, and don't even get me started on the human kingdoms.

>>386562083
he asked us to stop hitting and even becomes an enemy in the last seconds of the fight iirc

>>386563423
A moment of panic and poor judgement. He becomes friendly again straight after and remains an ally for the rest of the expac.

>>386560790
"Holy demons" is a pretty accurate way to describe them, actually. The vast majority of their race has been corrupted and turned to demons, to the point that basically any demon you meet is likely an Eredar. Their entire homeworld is controlled by demons. Draenei are a very tiny fraction of their race. It doesn't matter if they are technically demons or not, because the first thing that comes to mind when you see one is "demon" because the only exposure most anyone has had with their race is the demonic form.

>>386559076
Tauren on Draenei Snu-Snu is good stuff.

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dude what if draenei were demons lmao

>>386563001
Maraad's death made me pretty salty. We lost just about our only MU halfway interesting Draenei character outside of Velen and gained an AU Mary Sue who we'll never see again. I didn't even really hate her that much. and on top of that she later joins forces with the same motherfucker who was in charge of the guy that killed her sister and we're supposed to just be like "Nah they're ok now"?

The Horde losing an AU character who all of three quests prior was on the Iron Horde's team as their Battle for Shattrath death was the cherry on top

>>386559076
Fetish bait for losers

>>386563993
The way they treated Doomhammer was a crime and the second biggest loss of potential in the entire expansion.

>>386564235
What would be fetish bait for winners?

>>386564467
Blood elves

WoD is the expansion that never should have happened. To this day I can not for the love of me understand what they where thinking.

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>>386564596
Blood elves are made to be breed by Draenei dickgirls you know.

>>386564779
That's every race in WoW, you can't single them out for that.

>>386564596
Winners don't have taste that pleb-tier

>>386563993

We are going to be meeting this timeline Yrel in 7.3. She's on Argus

>>386559076
Draenei females are okay, but nelfs are hotter. Now as for males, they are perfect for my size difference fetish. Could look a bit better and half of the facial hair options are just ridiculous.

>>386559076
>cuck
Unironically literal cuck-race.

>>386559076
sauce

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>>386564779
>>386564912
It's actually the other way around.

Draenei dickgirls are meant to bred by other races. Don't ask how they get pregnant.

>>386565060
She evil in this timeline? If they make her evil and have AU Y'rel meet and help fight her clone, that'd be neat. At least it'd give WoD a reason to happen beyond releasing evil Orc hitler in the first couple quests. Plus the porn would be GOAT

>>386564912
Fair enough I suppose.

>>386565636
Cock birth?

>>386565498
>not available for players

WoW seriously needs more character customization

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>>386565498
Unless these models are available for players I don't see the point.

>>386565754
The understatement of video game decades.

>>386565774
>tfw you'll never play a glorious Draenei because the male models suck

>>386565754
>>386565865
Wait what why wouldn't they be

>>386565994
For the same reason Warden Armour is not something players can get.

Wait, you actually get to kill Velen's son?. i though that was new info on his backstory

>>386566149
Who?

>>386566101
Are you telling me Blizzard makes stuff but don't let players have it

>>386565636
They have a vagina behind the ballsack, do you even futa?

>>386566149
>>386566196
Rakeesh, the dude who attacks the Exodar, is Velen's long thought lost son who had actually been captured by Kil'jaedan and brainwashed with the specific purpose of destroying the Exodar and killing Velen.

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>>386559076
Second only to the NElves.

>>386566264
>Futa
No, they aren't futa.

>When you like Draenei girls but don't like futa
Fuck the "they're aliens so that means the women have dicks" argument. It' not like it matters to the other races when it comes to making every girl have a dick

>>386565754

Sliders are rumored to be on the next xpac

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Tyrande is for breeding

>>386566750
>Fuck the "they're aliens so that means the women have dicks" argument.
That's literally only done for porn, mostly because they have hooves.
Canon draenei women do not have dicks.

>>386566846
Clearly based on a black woman's proportions

>>386566859
Oh yeah, I know. But I'm referring specifically to the porn

>>386566891
Anon, you know Tyrande's voiced by a black woman, right?

>>386566846
To think she spent 10 000 years with out getting any.

>>386566991
>10 000 years with out getting any
Plenty of orcs in kalimdor :^) Nelf bois just can't compete.

>>386566975 (You)
Hold up I'm wrong on that, there's another character voice by a black woman I'm getting confused with.

>>386566991
>implying
You just know she was getting dicked by Trolls and Tauren the whole time

It's a shame moonguard suffered when the servers merged.

Good times, good times.

>>386567132
Please, you know they keep those Sabers around for a reason.

>>386567132
>Implying even Trolls want to sleep with Trolls
Taurens at lest got the biggest dick on three continents, lest until Draenei showed up

>>386559076
Orc cock is bettter

>>386566991
Implying she wasn't getting mounted by Cenarius every day all day

>>386567590
Hot

>>386566846
Is it just me or have they changed her voice actor? I mean it's not just bad, it's really shit.

>>386567484
>Implying Kil'Jaden didn't actually convince the orcs to drink demon blood by pointing out that Draenei have bigger dicks and tighter pussies

>>386567893
All lose to Tauren

>>386567958
Not in the vaginal department

>>386567765
For HotS or for Legion?
Because apparently HotS Tyrande is voiced by the chick who plays Gamora in Guardians of the Galaxy. The Legion one's a bit of a who.

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Fuck WoW ruining everything

#NotMyDraenei

>>386560497
Isn't it a Patreon-induced "slump".

Aka he's taking in money per month and putting out like 1 pic a month instead of how before Patreon he was putting out tons of art.

>>386560650
>more obnoxiously a Mary Sue than any other two characters put together.
>what is Med'an

>Med'an is a founder of the New Council of Tirisfal, a former wielder of Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian. Med'an is half-human, quarter-draenei and quarter-orc. His father, Medivh, is a human and Garona Halforcen, his mother, is half orc, half draenei.

>His unusual parentage and training has given him the unique ability to interweave shamanic magic with the arcane and divine. This gift, however, has also drawn him into conflict with cultists who believe he is the subject of an ancient prophecy and dark entities who would make his power their own.

>>386568347
The Burning Crusade retcon/rewrite/addendum to draenei lore was one of the few positive story changes they've made this millennium. Where they fail is not offering male/female Broken as playable options out of the Exodar refugees too.

>>386568579
Not canon

>>386568673
>Alex Afrasiabi's statements at BlizzCon 2016 and via Twitter confirmed that Med'an is canon, that the comics are canon too

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>>386559076
>like draenai females
>90% of the porn is futa shit

Thank you for making me suffer

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>>386568579
Please don't mention him.

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>>386559076
Probably one of the best races to play as for ERP, second only to Gobbies. Fantastic aesthetic, easy incorporation of animal elements to their character due to the hooves and the playerbases acceptance that more or less all of them have dicks have made them a joy to play as.

>>386568579
We do not speak it's name

>>386568717
Of course the comics would be canon. Blizzard views WoW as a comic book in art and story. Which really says how low they think of comic book storytelling.

Kinda pisses me off actually.

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>>386568874
what's the problem, he's really cool anon

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>>386568961
I'm trying 2b nice here.

>>386568717
>>386568579
Him being the guardian isn't canon and his existence is a "maybe?" and a shrug

>>386568786
what's wrong with draenai horsecocks?

>>386568961
>I must go now, my planet needs me
My god even just seeing that page I can tell how cliche the writing is.

>>386569097
them being on women

>>386569097
fuck you

>>386560497
what the fuck is wrong with her face? It looks like what someone who just read a "how to draw manga" would draw

>>386569097
They usually belong to bullies. And I shouldn't have been forced to learn how to deep throat that convincingly.

>>386569097
Futa in general is so common and overdone that a number of us, apparently growing, are just bored/sick of it. Everything has a dick now, doesn't matter what race, lore, or even if it's a fucking toaster, it has a dick now, and artists are slapping dicks on everything. It's like when you say a word so much that it loses all meaning, except you see so many dicks on everything you lose all interest.

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>it's a "good character designs are wasted on a shit game" episode

Female Draenei are for breeding with human males to create the master race blessed by the Light

>>386569260
Cute!

>>386568632
How was it even positive outside porn purposes?
It made no sense with the rest of Warcraft (Fucking spaceships in Warcraft?), straight up changed things to suit it, and just in general was and has not been good in any story telling department since their change.

>>386569260
>that owl looks badass
>wait, he has a breastplate? and it's not depressing his feathers? Bullshit
>How the fuck do you have a static scar on feathers? THATS NOT HOW FEATHERS WORK GODDAMNIT

>>386566846
She was made for cleaning smelly, dirty Orc dicks with her tongue

>>386569263
I mean I can get behind this idea

>>386569250
Weird how so many of them make a female and futa edit of all their work no?

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>>386569360
it's a sentinel owl
it's magic or something

>>386569260
>You will never have Warden Armour for your character.

>That one flash game where you play as a Draenei paladin who has to fight through multiple floors of Legion demons as you can constantly be fucked and slowly corrupted more and more
Thanks for reminding me, /v/.

>>386569432
Couldn't it just "magic" away the scar then?

>>386569242
Hot. Don't fight your nature, slut.

>>386569387
smelly, dirty Orc buttholes*

>>386569260
why is her right arm so short

>>386569513
A rusty trombone is good too

>>386569416
people still don't want to be bombarded with dicks when they're flicking through a gallery. And all it does is cheapen the image anyway.

>>386569360
>>386569528
Also her helm is too small for her giant animu head.

>>386569416
Too many of them don't

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>>386559076
They don't horsedick around.

>>386569470
Got a link to this flash game?

>>386559076
>See this fuckers work while scrolling through the catalog
>Immediately have to fap

Thanks nigger.

>>386559076
yes yes

>>386569626
House of R'Thoth. I always got it on the LoK forums. graphics are a bit shite and the ending's weird, but damn does it have a lot of animations.

>>386569619
God fucking dammit Carlos. Your parents never loved you.

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>>386559076
HUNG
FUTA
DRENEI

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>tfw no qt zombie gf
>you will never cum inside a zombie's rotten, maggot infested pussy

>>386566991
With long lifespan comes greater kinks. Imagine edging for 10k years.

>>386569250
You're thinking of it the wrong way. It's an accessory fetish placed on women. Some people draw chicks with stockings, some draw chicks with gloves, other draw chicks with some currently trending meme dress and some people draw them with dicks. That's it, really. No different than some artists preferring to draw chicks with humongous breasts. It's not supposed to be some novel, new thing. For people who like them, they can't be "overdone" any more than blonde hair can be overdone.

>>386569470
What kinda game?

All I remember was this little game blizz made for ppl waiting to watch blizzcon stream, featuring a fem draenei DK, just a basic hack and slash, but addicting.

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>>386569465
warden guise my man

>>386559076
>>386560497
>>386560227
>is a DICK
>is fucking retarded and publically responded to 2 of the 3 insults/baits I pm'd him on tumblr
>barely does anything anymore
>when he does its shit tier stuff for paetron people

>>386560227
He got married

>>386569250

>be hooked on futa
>futacocks are a decent human size
>soon artists go overboard on futa
>futacocks are now massive horsecocks
>now you just get turned off by futa

i know that feel

>>386569718
Wait
Is the left the before or the after?

>>386569718
Jesus, what the fuck happened?

>>386569824
It's a bit hard to say what it is. It's not really a platformer, and the combat's incredibly basic.

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>>386569962
>to some literal tumblr whore
>shes almost as good at him in drawing his neo style
>she isnt an artist

>>386570006
After.

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>>386569718
>>386569878
>>386569818
>It's an "overrated artist has a big head because he gets famous drawing porn for undersexed teenagers" episode

>>386568535
If you're getting paid by the month then take a month.
If you're getting paid by the drawing then that's hard work.

>>386570045
She is also a camwhore

>>386569981
Exactly, I can stand futa, but once the dicks get the size of torso, it's just retarded.

>you will never fuck a space goat

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>>386569718
>file no longer exists

>>386569803
The problem with that logic is, accessories are rare, niche, and trending memedresses disappear after a month. Futa's only gotten more common and worse over time to the point that it starts out as, "Ooh, this comic/artist looks good. I like this style and attention to detail. Oh wait, he's putting a dick on the blender, and put 3 dicks on the dining room table, fuck that I'm out"

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>>386570241
You'd probably get space aids.

I would rather a night elf or a goblin, or a panda myself.

>>386569718
Meanwhile pic related by people I haven't heard of before a week ago.

Been really disappointed with how inconsistent Monara has been drawn lately. Whatever, not like I'm giving him money to do her right.

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>>386570263
>>386569718
I'm always late
What was it?

>>386569981
>>386570170
Oh my god I'm actually not the only one! I started out liking it too but that's my biggest complaint after how fucking over-used it is, that most of them draw obscenely large third-muscular-leg dicks or go to another extreme and make them as disgusting looking and off-color as possible.

Is it so wrong to appreciate proper proportions? This shit is why I moved to Femboys.

>>386559486
Patreon exists so artists who have "made it" no longer have to hone their craft or even put forth any effort at all.

>>386570395
>The problem with that logic is, accessories are rare, niche,

Not really, no. Stockings, skirts, blonde hair, china dresses, body suits, plenty accessories get used and re-used for new characters because they're a thing for the people who draw them.

>"Ooh, this comic/artist looks good. I like this style and attention to detail. Oh wait, he's putting a dick on the blender, and put 3 dicks on the dining room table, fuck that I'm out"

Doubtful. I can count good futa artists on hands, name me 3 recent (2-3 years or younger) "good looking artists that pay attention to details" who switched to futa.

>>386570763
Never said "switched to futa", just finding a new artist who did a random one-off non-futa pic and then check the rest of their work and bam, dick city USA, population: Horsecock.

Re: Accessories, I can browse random tags or galleries without ever seeing a stocking, china dress, etc. Can't do that with futa. Skirts isn't really a fetish, and blonde hair is a preference that can be fetishized.

>>386570509
pm'd you link :^)

>>386570541
this is honestly why traps aren't as gay as futa

trap artists try to make their males as feminine as possible, futa artists try to make their females as masculine as possible and its fucking gay

>>386571026
No one cares about your weird, panty based religion John.

>>386571120
whatever you say mister horsecocks

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>>386569785

>>386571208
Matriarch Horsecocks to you.

>>386569785
>>386571268
>illidan

>>386571351
archbishop pantybulge to you, heathen

>>386560497
He isn't suffering from any kind of slump. He set up a patreon and like many other artists, realized they don't actually have to release anything for the entire month to receive the donated funds. If anything, he just releases one image per month to meet the quota. He's getting paid by the month so he can get away with pretending it takes a month for him to get work done now. I don't get how anyone can believe someone who just drew bitches getting fucked somehow got into a slump where he can't just draw someone getting fucked in any position.

>>386569250
>>386570541
I tried to fucking warn you people. Years ago, I said the fucking futa virus was spreading and it needs to be fucking stopped.

Monster girls were a fad. NTR was a fad. Otokonoko is a fad currently. Futa is NOT A FAD, it isn't going away, it just keeps getting more and more fucking common.

A decade ago futa was a rare and fun alternative to regular ol' yuri. Now it seems like it's the fucking norm, and you can't have two sluts on the same screen without one or both of them sporting a dick.

>>386571436
LONG AGO ON A DISTANT PLANET, I, ILLIDAN STORMRAGE, DEMON HUNTING MASTER OF DARKNESS, UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE VENGEANCE!

>>386571436
No wonder he's such a fucking faggot.

>>386570957
>>Re: Accessories, I can browse random tags or galleries without ever seeing a stocking, china dress, etc

No, but you'll see other accessories. Big breasts, "thick/chubby/bbw", abs, tanned, short hair, etc. I find it hard to believe you get off exclusively to naked, pure vanilla with completely average and mundane girl doing it in missionary position with lights off.

>Never said "switched to futa", just finding a new artist who did a random one-off non-futa pic and then check the rest of their work and bam, dick city USA, population: Horsecock.

Well if he started that way, then it's akin to going to africa and complaining about niggers, don't you think? Now let's not exaggerate, there's at least ten normal good artists for every 1 good futa artist. Of course assuming we're talking about japanese ones. The sentence "plenty of good western artists" just makes me leave the room laughing.

hottest race but not the best racials

>>386561642
Female tauren are extremely underrated

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>>386572027
>no more raidwide bonus to hit%
>no more raid spot security

>>386571719
Illidan would be Jack in this scenario in his mind.

>>386565498
Why arent they available for players? fuck my dick wants this

>>386571439
You. I like you.

>>386571925
Not the guy you've been talking to but I normally don't care about futa because it usually is 1 in 10 as you say.

The problem is, when it comes to the Draenei, that ratio is closer to 50/50 because "hurr aliens=all girls have dicks lmao"

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>>386571583
>Monster girls were a fad
how long does a fad last

>>386565498
My god those are some fucking ugly niggermodel-faces.

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>>386572212
>implying Illidan isn't a void lord
Get ready for your pentuple agent, betrayal/redemption/betrayal/redempetion/betrayal/redemption arc.

>>386571583
>NTR was a fad
>NTR has excited long before bible black was even made
>Has been popular since then
>"IT'S TOTALLY A FAD GUYS! DON'T WORRY!"

When is this meme going to end?

>>386559076
They have nice cocks.

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>>386559076
>>386559247
Draenei are not "Holy Demons".
They're aliens like Orcs are aliens.
pic related is the perfect example of a "Holy Demon"

>>386572339
Monster girls were a fad, make no mistake.
They only entered mainstream consciousness with the release of MGQ's chapters and monster musume's anime run. They have returned to being a niche now that those are over with.

>>386572569
Something can exist and be mildly popular without being a fad. NTR is currently a niche, unlike the year or so period where every other artist was pumping out NTR-related art. You know, like what's happening now with otokonoko.

>>386572541
Nah, the current writer is self inserting hard, he'll never let his OC donut steel purple Jesus be a villain

>>386565214
Sauce me up

>>386572689
Did you miss the redemption part? I mean they can have 1 expansion with Illidan being baddie again while Arthas is fighting him and then have a epic plot twist in the next expansion where Illy was a good boy all along!

big blue horsecocks

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>>386571925
>there's at least ten normal good artists for every 1 good futa artist.
this is way /v/ dont use to talk about space gota always appears some homosexual defend the horsecok

>>386572679
>They only entered mainstream consciousness with the release of MGQ's chapters and monster musume's anime run
clearly you have never browsed /tg/ or the "other" parts of the internet

>>386572679
>Something can exist and be mildly popular without being a fad. NTR is currently a niche

But that isn't the case with NTR. NTR has been popular for a very long time. The only reason why it seems to have propped up is because it was rarely used for animated OVAs. Now they're being picked up for OVAs all the time, so it looks like there's been a big boom of them, but these are just adaptations of NTR mangas that have existed for a long time. Hell, Bible Black and and most specifically the Discipline series was hardcore NTR in it's source material, but the people who chose to make those animated OVAs decided to go a more vanilla route. Makai Tenshi Djibril came out almost a decade ago as well, but their source material was more than 50% NTR, yet the people in charge of the animations chose to make the rape scenes less NTR-ish and passed off as more of a joke.

>>386572657
autism
he was talking about the design you utter retard.

>>386572954
Did you have a stroke, anon?

>>386573016
>clearly you have never browsed /tg/ or the "other" parts of the internet
Clearly that anon has no idea what he's talking about and just basing his posts off of the vacuum of the fetishes he's been searching for. He's most likely never really looked for Monster Girl or NTR material, so now that more people seem to be talking about it and companies are turning more of them into animations, along with some vanilla stories randomly turning into NTR at later chapters; he's been led to think that these just happened to become fads and will die down quickly. I mean, the guy just said monster girls was a fad. Maybe when it comes to animations or hentai OVA's, but from the manga side of things they've been popular for decades, and those animations are always based off of mangas that have existed for a while anyway. They didn't just decide to make Monster Musume one day without any source material. Monster Musume was originally a hentai series years before it even became an official manga.

>>386569839
Stop! Stop making me want to play again!

>>386572679
>unlike the year or so period where every other artist was pumping out NTR-related art
Anon NTR has always been really popular. You just never realized it before since it was outside of your knowledge.

I legitmatelly cannot think of a year in the last decade where NTR wasn't the top searched tag on dlsite, DMM, or any JAV aggregate.

>>386573461
ehh, it's only for twenty minutes out of every two hours, unless you extend it with the reflecting prism

>>386572954
horsecock is literally the straightest fetish. 0% guy involved.

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>>386571268
>>386571719
BUT, A FOOLISH HUMAN DEATH KNIGHT WIELDING A MAGIC SWORD STEPPED FORTH TO OPPOSE ME

>>386573486
>>386573425
I find that hard to believe. It didn't seem like until a couple years ago NTR was anything but a niche fetish that a few specific artists specialized in. Then there was a period where it became really popular, and then it died down again. The "fad period."

The same thing happened to monster girls, and the same thing will happen to otokonoko.

I'm saying these things weren't always popular. I'm saying they had a big boom of popularity, which soon tapered off back to normal levels. That's what makes them different from futa. Futa just keeps going and isn't slowing down.

>>386573695
I kek'd

>>386573538
Of course Blizzard would put some awful cooldown on it.

>>386573703
I'm NOT* saying these things weren't always popular.
Because of course they were. That's not what I mean.

>>386573760
not to mention you have to unlock it by grinding rep for the wardens until your RNG box drops it

>>386573703
Here, let me illustrate what I mean by fad popularity.

Fad popularity is when even normies know about it and acknowledge it. Currently, even normies know about trap shit and it is part of their living consciousness.

Futa seems to have become a PERMANENT part of normie consciousness. That's what makes it different.

>>386573703
>Then there was a period where it became really popular, and then it died down again
There are autists that aggregate doujin tags from every comiket.
There has never once been a year of a big NTR surge. Its always been the same 15%~ of doujins.

Whatever happened to that 3D WoW porn game with the Draenei?

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>>386573862
Basically Legion in a nutshell.

>>386572318
True, but that's just the sort of image they got stuck with, and it's the sort of thing you have no choice but to accept.

Kinda like Inori became an anal queen for no fucking reason, and everyone started making that sort of content with her, even though I don't like that sort of thing myself.

>>386574178
Theres now more shimakaze trap doujins and art than normal.
Crowd mentality is odd at times

>>386566829
There is already enough armor clipping on some of the races as is, there is no way they will make body sliders work without looking like shit.
Just add sub races and new hair styles.
There is literally no reason for there not to be brown/grey orcs and Dark Iron/Wildhammer dorfs.

>>386574304
I want my fucking Nightborne subrace already.

>>386574407
Nightborne would be harder to justify since they would have no real business starting off in either the Nelf or Belf starting zone if they were made a sub race.
Meanwhile the Dwarf starting area already has several dark irons and wild hammers just standing around as class trainers.

>>386574618
Who cares, double-holy Draenei or Broken or different types of Trolls wouldn't have any justification either.

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>>386573703
>I find that hard to believe.

It doesn't really matter what you want to believe. You can go to sites like dlsite or vndb and look up the list of NTR games released by a specific date, or check dlsite's statistic log for tags. It'll show you that hentai games alone had a very large quantity of NTR games and only recently spiked by around 5% at most. The same goes for doujins. The difference was, like how animations went, nobody wanted to pick them up at the time because of how unsure they were it would sell. Animation companies didn't do much NTR because they didn't think it was safe at the time, while translations rarely did NTR because they didn't like the fetish much. Go to exhentai, and search Japanese NTR mangas only. You'll find close to 10,000 of them released before 2010, before the fat was ever considered to have started. There's many different instances of proof that contradict what you believe. There are still instances of developers shying away from NTR in the animation community now too. The Koutetsu No Majo Annerose animation team tried their boss to not put too much the NTR side of the ending to the point where they chose not to adapt the hardcore NTR stuff that was in the source material. They did this by cutting it short and giving it a cliffhanger ending (pic related) where it implies the MC will eventually find Annerose and save her, when the source material has this long run of her being a prostitute, getting pregnant with orc babies, and ignoring the MC to have pregnant sex with the troll in pic related when the MC does finally arrive to save her.

>>386573961
>Fad popularity is when even normies know about it and acknowledge it.

But that's not how it works when it comes to hentai, because eventually any normie is going to start coming across different fetishes they didn't even search for as time goes on. That's how I was introduced to NTR an entire decade ago when I only ever searched NTR.

>>386559391
yeah, but think about it anon

what has Exodar done in the last near 10 years? fucking nothing. when have you been back there? never. what have the draenei done story wise to help out? oh, nothing on their part because the fucks love thrall and orcs and shit.

>>386574980
>Broken or different types of Trolls wouldn't have any justification either.
How so?
I'm pretty sure there are lots of Alliance aligned Broken like Nobundo and there are Horde aligned forest trolls.

>>386575037
So I've insulted a fan of NTR and he is rushing to his pet fetish's side to defend it. Whatever, I'm not interested.

Can you deny that futa is abnormally popular, moreso than other supposedly "niche" fetishes? That is the crux of this entire discussion.

>>386559076
Why can a prophet leave a shit load of his men, women, and children to die and still be cool with the light, but one little prince kills a few peasants and he's abandoned altogether?

>>386571583
Why contain it?

>>386575279
>So I've insulted a fan of NTR and he is rushing to his pet fetish's side to defend it.

Nobody here is feeling insulted from what I can see, nor am I trying to defend a fetish. I'm just providing counterargument to your point. It's not my fault you start feeling attacked just multiple people start arguing your point. Relax. I would have said the same thing if you called Futa or other fetishes were a fad as well. No hard feelings here, anon.

>>386575539
Because the world must appeal to what one anon doesn't like, just because his mind tells him that these 'viruses' are somehow becoming fads and are spreading. I mean, I don't like scat or guro, but you won't see me crying about these fetishes in convos that don't even relate to them. Why would I get bothered if some weird fucker somewhere is getting his vore porn? Internet has weird shit, accept it.

what is it about the huge, throbbing, fat vein streaking down the turgid shaft of the biggest blue horse cock that you like the most anons?

>>386575715
Futa is extremely prevalent now. You're kidding yourself if you're putting it on the same level as scat or guro, which are actual niche fetishes.

Why did they free illidan only to later tell him to fuck off?

>>386575838
>Futa is extremely prevalent now. You're kidding yourself if you're putting it on the same level as scat or guro

And like the other posts you missed the point...but I guess it's better than you randomly straw-manning that everyone is just some triggered NTR/Monster Girl or whatever fetish fan trying to defend their fetish, rather than providing counterargument with good points...so I'll take what I can get.

>>386559076
Best women and best race. Only Night Elf women come close.

Shame they suffer from being way too thin in-game though. Tiny twig arms, little weapons and giant helmets make them look silly.

They're the best in all the art though.

>>386575265
Yes, but they don't work in the starting zones. Any justification you could give them would fit the Nightborne just as much.

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>>386575397
because he didn't wait 5 minutes to let it cool before serving.

>>386576054
I said that because you gave me a long diatribe about the history of NTR and how popular it is. Why do you know so much about this?

I called those fetishes fads because I was under the impression they had a big boom. If they factually had not, fine, but there were points in the last few years where it really seemed like they had been pushed into mainstream consciousness and now they are not.

That's really all I was trying to say, and that futa is different because it never had its 'return to niche' period. Its mainstream popularity has endured.

>>386559076
>What are your opinions on draenei race and culture?
Draenei men are some of the best husbandos around and yet nobody draws them. Draenei "women" (futa) are the most memefied, overdrawn, bland, boring pieces of shit.

>>386559076
character design was fresh and hot. culture and lore is retcon/10 though

>>386576462
>I said that because you gave me a long diatribe about the history of NTR and how popular it is.

Because isn't that how you''re supposed to provide basis for your arguments in these kind of things? Or is just saying you don't believe it or basing it all on what one person has seen good enough for you? You could do the same by looking up shit for Futa as well. Like one anon said, Dlsite has it's own statistic base for releases to help search things up. You could use that alone to debunk you're post. But you're clearly more than happy to straw-man others to make yourself feel like you've won something. You're no different than caulifags who immediately revert to calling everyone who disagrees with them gohancucks like it's your security blanket. It's obvious we've reached an impasse since putting to actual sources will still be wrong to you, so feel free to argue with the others arguing with you on this. I'm out

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>>386571583
Anyone who knows how to draw and ISN'T getting some of that chicks with dicks cash is a complete moron, it is basically infinite money, same goes for the furry market.

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>>386576462
>"I called those fetishes fads because I was under the impression they had-"
>"I was under the impression"
>Simply guesses that what he believes is true
>Argues with others that they're wrong
>Gets backed into a corner and starts calling people NTR fanboys
>"O-Oh.. I was just under the impression..."

From an outside perspective; wouldn't this person look like a complete retard to you?

>>386576919
i don't draw furry stuff, probably why
no one wants ANOTHER anime futa artist...

>>386576918
The thing is the number of releases isn't really important, here... It's whether the fetish in question entered mainstream consciousness and was pushed to a large number of people. It's my impression that there was a period where NTR was very popular, moreso than it is now or was in the past.

>>386577163
I called him an NTR fanboy because it really seemed like he was one with how he readily whipped out his facts and statistics about it.

Look, I was just trying to say that futa seemed abnormally popular compared to other, "true" niche fetishes. I don't know why it turned into this huge argument.

>>386576462
>I said that because you gave me a long diatribe about the history of NTR and how popular it is. Why do you know so much about this?
>
>I called those fetishes fads because I was under the impression they had a big boom. If they factually had not, fine, but there were points in the last few years where it really seemed like they had been pushed into mainstream consciousness and now they are not.
>
>That's really all I was trying to say, and that futa is different because it never had its 'return to niche' period. Its mainstream popularity has endured.

Then why did you argue with people who were flat out telling you something else? The only thing that can truly be considered a fad in the hentai community is tentacle porn. Tentacle porn has always been extremely popular in all generations of hentai, but got a slight 'fad' boost during what was referred to as the Golden Age of hentai (bible black, Jibril, and other tentacle animations), because of how quickly people were picking up tentacle doujins to turn into animations. Even though that fad has somewhat died down, tentacle porn is still one of the top dogs in the industry. Fads work different for each thing, hentai fads.

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>>386576919
There's no way in hell he is making that much money for a shitty, poorly written, text-based, furry futa fuckfest game
>It's real
BRB downloading Virtual Studio

>>386577476
>>386576919
I think he's also paying some other guys for working on it

Sure doesn't show in the progress, most of his blog posts are about playing videogames and being sick

>>386559076
rexxcraft's draenai stuff is pretty good

>>386577348
>The thing is the number of releases isn't really important, here... It's whether the fetish in question entered mainstream consciousness

That's not how fads work. Simply being aware of something doesn't automatically make it a fad, especially when the amount of it produced hasn't changed much since then. You're just bending definitions to fit your argument. By your logic, tentacle porn would be considered a fad now if it was still as massively popular as it was in the hardcore hentai base, but only just now be made aware of to the normie side, despite there being no change in sale or creation after. That-Is-Not-How-Fads-Work.

>>386561523
>vibrator joke
???

>>386577421
>>386577704
Then maybe "fad" was simply the wrong word and I've just been arguing over what seemed like trends from an outside perspective.
I'm sorry I said anything.

>>386560497
>>386559076
Who is the artist?

>>386577348
>I called him an NTR fanboy because it really seemed like he was one with how he readily whipped out his facts and statistics about it.

But he isn't the only one replying to you in that way. There were some people arguing against what you said with Monster Girls as well, one of which even brought up the history of Monster Musume (hwoever youspell that shit), yet you didn't go name calling there. It just seems like you went for the easy way out against the NTR side of the argument because of how easy it usually is to just debunk someone arguing over NTR by calling them a cuck on 4chan. He made sense with his post and you just went full faggot over it.

>>386571552

^ This guy gets it

( Now I know I'm opening a can of worms but it still applies. )

The furry community ( yeah regardless what you think of them. ) Are the main reason "Patreon" became a thing.

Furry artist realized they could make people pay shit tons of cash for shitty art they already made.

( I follow the hentai scene too. )

Just like the artist who made this wow shit.

When they saw how many no talent pukes where raking in hundreds even thousands a month by doing this shit.

It basically killed the "creative" aspects of the furry art. ( Again regardless of what you may think of them, you are a shitty too if you are on 4chan like me and all of us so get over it. )

That's what happened to the hentai and now other communities.

Artist are hiding their shit behind paywalls and many are becoming lazy faggots and are no longer putting inn anymore effort in what they do. Doesn't matter if they drew great before or not. They are just milking their name "style" theme until no one pays for it anymore.

The problems is too many lonely betas so desperate to see naked girls drawn ( Furry or otherwise. ) They keep throwing cash at this people.

Thus. Allowing Patreon to make more toxic fools milking the user-base to zero of censored, half-assed trash.

You can thank greedy faggots and furries/hentai artist alike for the downfall of quality work.

Certainly everyone will go down this path eventually. Should have never supported any artist from the get-go. Stupid lemmings.

>>386577610
he does nothing and people literally give him free content because they want their oc in game.

JEW IS AT IT AGAIN

>>386577804
Some draenei artifact that was resonating/vibrating in certain condition.

>>386577936
It really just did seem abnormal for someone to be so nuanced in the history of the fetish without being a fan of it. And I wasn't interested in learning about NTR.

Again, I'm sorry I ruined this thread. I've had too much coffee.

>>386577804
"Do Gnomes have a vibrate setting? I'm just curious."

>>386578147
I'ts about gnomes being noisy and annoying, and it's a joke about putting them on vibrate like a cell phone

>>386578313
Yeah, that's why it was removed.
Sure.

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>>386559384

>>386578396
it was removed?
what retard thought it would be confused with a vibrator joke

>>386577974
I stopped reading when you started pointing to the furry community. I'm not a furry, nor am I defending furfags; but I'm trying to say that the patreon fuckery started for all artistic communities at the same time. Artist universally realized that they could get rich without doing anything and their human greed kicked in. This is why I respect artists like slugbox the most for outright saying how shit the patreon thing has become, and what it's done to the artist community. I'm perfectly down for supporting an artist I love, but I'm not going to give him shit when he decides to drop from 5 pieces a month to just 1 if we're lucky because he knows he can get away with it now. I stopped supporting this guy's patreon the first month I realized he had fell into that hole like all the others.

It just sounds fucking retarded to say that you're in an art slump as a porn artist. You're not a normal artist who normally draws some unique forest piece or anything like that, you literally just draw lewd chicks fucking in different positions. Don't tell me he can't just take his mascot character and draw her in a doggy style position and call it a day. Even if he was somehow suffering from some bullshit slump, he could have just taken ideas from his patreon subs for what to draw in his monthly quotas. They have the convince of being able to do the bare minimum to get paid, while normal jobs would have replaced them for it.

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>>386578456
Holy shit is that a fucking Wakfu doujin?

>>386578080
>It really just did seem abnormal for someone to be so nuanced in the history of the fetish

Again, there were people who did almost the same with Monster girls, but you didn't call them fanboys. Why is that? Some guys just brought up tentacles, why aren't you calling them butthurt fans?

>>386559076
Any race whose females exclusively have massive horse dongs is a well-designed race.

>>386578708
Because nobody whipped out the intricate history of adapting monster musume to animation or how many monster girl games are on dlsite with a hard number.

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>Ctrl+f "futa"
>45 matches
never change /v/

>>386578804
>Because nobody whipped out the intricate history of adapting monster musume to animation or how many monster girl games are on dlsite with a hard number.

He didn't give you any hard numbers. You pointed you to source directions where you'd get these hard numbers to prove you wrong. It would be no different if I told you to look up getchu for monster porn.

>>386569773

WHo's the artist ?

>>386579128
I'm going to stop replying now. I said what I did because he seemed to know an awful lot about the subject. That's all.

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>>386578804
>says something wrong
>gets corrected
>abloo abloo abloo name calling and straw-mans
>gets called out
>admits he may have been wrong
>starts abloo abloo bloo arguing again
>tries to justify him tapping out and reverting to name calling

The moment you backed down from a civil argument and resorted to name calling you became a colossal faggot in everyone's eyes. It doesn't matter if you can provide a good justification for it now, because you didn't even try to argue the point when he did give you an unnecessary mini rant of facts, you still turned into a brick wall of manbaby attacks.

>that feel when ERP'd with a Panda woman as a Male Human
I blame you people for making me want this

>>386579556
Post logs

Draenei need to go back to their continent, understand, because if they don't I will make them slaves again‼

>>386559076
Anduin's likely to make one his queen if anything.

>>386578621
fuck you
if i was a better artist, i would SO fucking use patreon for free dosh. its more fucking money than most mid level people get per commish, but per month now.

i wouldn't change my output, but i would probably have a more streamlined "this is how much work im doing in one month unless something happens, stay with the patreon if you want a steady schedule" and then like 1-5 days or a week later put the art on a tumblr or whatever.

its easy, then people can still see my shit without paying, they just have to wait a little longer.

>>386561642

Female tauren are cute and cuddly and motherly/matronly manifest.

>>386579673
>that feel when theres an autistic guy who plays a female Draenei on the forums who HATES the fact that Humans always have been and always will be the heart of the Alliance who would have a meltdown if this happened
Make it happen Blizzard

>>386579838
What?

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>>386579812
Is it taboo to milk a female tauren for your breakfast?

>>386579838
>female Draenei on the forums who HATES the fact that Humans always have been and always will be the heart of the Alliance

It's not like they formed it or anything

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>>386578702
>>386578456
>>386559384

>>386579747
>i wouldn't change my output, but i would probably have a more streamlined

Then you'd be fine. These artists have changed their output to almost once a month, IF we're lucky enough to get one that month. Nobody has anything against someone grinding for extra cash with limited effort, but these guys have gone giga kike with it. There are even someone artists who will draw about 5 pictures and keep those hidden away, releasing one per month... even though they uploaded a teaser that shows that they are all clearly finished. Why even fuck over your patreon subs like that? They are paying, right? I can understand doing that for free users only, but jewing up your supporters? Fuck off.

>>386579971
Its the same as doing it with human female

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DRAENEI ARE CUTE

C U T E

they have the best hair and they have Horns!

>>386579673
Oh man, Alliance Draenei queen would be dope

And also a little hot

>>386579673
What a lad. I always knew that twinkboi was truley the biggest man of us all.

>>386580037
Draenei and Night Elf women were made for being railed and impregnated by Orcs and Trolls

Itd be nice if cross-faction stuff didnt have to be done through f-list or battle tag

>>386559157
Top Kek

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>can't impregnate alien
>creampie for days

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>>386580091
>you'll never get bossed around in private by a 2 meters tall russian spacegoat qt
Why even live

>>386579838
Is fucking Lena that infamous?

>>386580181
>Draenei and Night Elf women were made for railing and impregnating all other females
ftfy

>>386559076
They're my favorite Warcraft race.