*BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP*

>>386558360
EEEEEEEEE

>>386558360
$$$$$$$$$$

>>386558360
*Cha-ching*

>that one that has clipped 3/4 of the way into the ground so you have to have pixel perfect aim to find the tiny spot you need to be aiming in to disarm it
Thanks Bethesda

>>386558998
Where?

>>386558360
>LEFT LEG CRIPPLED
>RIGHT LEG CRIPPLED
>TORSO CRIPPLED
>LEFT ARM CRIPPLED

>>386559573
Literally at any preset spot. Any interactive object in this game has a very high chance of not loading in properly.

I clearly remember the mines by the Super Duper Mart on that one bridge would sometime spawn in the river beneath the bridge.

>>386559894
Worst of all is is when your head is crippled. I fucking hate that effect plus that noise, other limbs don't even make that much difference when broken

>>386558360
ANELE

>>386560725
KAPOW

>that town with the sniper and mines everywhere

Say what you want about 3 but it had some great atmosphere after you left the vault. 4 literally went full retard and just killed any enthusiasm I had for Bethesda games even though I enjoyed Skyrim the one playthrough I had of it. I played Fallout 3 and New Vegas multiple times and enjoyed both where as I can't even get a fucking week into 4 because of boring shit it is.

I've never beaten Oblivion but I did enjoy it. I've played 3 and NV only on 360 and 4 still bored the shit out of me with mods.

>>386561690
Try DUST for New Vegas and Frost for Fallout 4. Frost makes 4 bearable and actually interesting even though it's still in early alpha. Both mods are very atmospheric and challenging, beware going insane.

>>386562117
>survival simulation mod
>hey guys lets take this game that isn't fun and make it even less fun and 100% more autistic

>>386562529
You sound like you have autism

>>386561690

i dont understand how anyone could prefer FO3 over 4, it's shit in every way. at least 4 was a passable FPS that wasn't filled with pointless, empty landscape. yet another autistic /v/ contrarian desperate to fit in.

>>386562710
>wanting to lump a shitload of micromanagement into an already shit game
>not autistic

>>386561690
FO3 is honestly Bethesda's best post-Morrowind game.

The level scaling wasn't quite as severe as it was in Oblivion, and it actually locked you out of content depending on choices and had mechanics like weapon degradation unlike Skyrim.

It's quite telling that Obsidian only made a couple of balancing tweeks to FO3's core gameplay system rather than radically changing it when making NV. Balancing was always 3's biggest issue from a gameplay standpoint, not the system itself.

>>386563448
This, but contrarian kids on /v/ have to pretend its awful.

>>386562852
3 genuinely has a better map than 4 and NV.

You could also roleplay and solve things non-lethally or stealthily in 3 (Speech+Sneak+Science=never needing to fight at all), which you can't say for 4. Most of 4's quests are kill, loot, return, where as in 3, the killing and looting part was often optional.

>>386559894
>Can see the mine sitting on the barren ground
>Sorry, nope it's actually clipping a quarter inch into the ground and you can't select it

>>386558360
*freezes your game for a half second before exploding*

>>386558360
>not getting Light Step and just running over them

The late game perks in FO3 were hilariously OP.

>>386559573
Southern quadrant. But they were on the move.

>>386562117
What does Frost do exactly? I'm sort of confused by the description
It says there is no story, does that mean you don't get to interact with any of the major factions at all or what?
Currently using Horizon myself

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>>386563905

>You could also roleplay and solve things non-lethally or stealthily in 3 (Speech+Sneak+Science=never needing to fight at all)

>>386563905
nigger the mojave was the best map in any fallout game

>>386564682
A pacifist run in 3 is totally possible.

The only times you're forced to kill is that one Radroach at your 10th birthday and the Super Mutants in the Jefferson Memorial, the latter of whom you can have companions kill and not have it towards your kill count.


With high Sneak and the appropriate perks, you can ghost past everything, Speech allows you to talk people down and Science allows you to disable gun turrets and robots. On top of that, the Mesmetron can be used to daze and enslave enemies so you don't need to fight them, or it can cause them to frenzy. The highest rank of the iron fist perk also allows you to temporarily inflict KO status on enemies when you punch them.

Don't blame the game because you refuse to get creative with it.

>>386565310
>map shaped like a horse shoe with linear progression with nothing but flat desert in-between major settlements
No.

>>386565679
>I'm so casual and lazy I didn't do any exploring to find alternate ways to get to New Vegas
>Instead I'm going to shitpost about how the game doesn't hold my hand and tell me what to do
Yes.

>>386565956
>New Vegas
>exploring
Good one.

>>386565956
>alternate ways to get to New Vegas

>go east
>get gang raped by deathclaws
>go north
>get gang raped by cazadors


Wow so open.

>>386566628
>Shitter
>Can't defend his opinion
Typical.

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>>386564537
Frost takes place 5 years after the war, you start in the subways where most people who didn't enter vaults survived, and you simply have to get by and not go insane. There are different factions and a very well hidden friendly town, there's apparently a questline too but it's mostly following around notes from what I understood. The mod is still in alpha so there are many inconsistencies and bugs but it's pretty fun to explore the places and find notes detailing the lore. It's also pretty fucking brutal with diseases and radiation. I like it a lot so far.

>>386562852
The fuck are you talking about. 4 has the same interaction as an RPGMaker hentai game, shit map, terrible atmosphere. Don't get me started. 3 had a lot of problems but did some things good.

>>386566853
>what are stealth bois
>what is crouching
>what is not having autism

>>386566853
Sneak north, go east through black mountain then north, go south, then east then north
>Waaaa all these people are trying to kill me ;_;
FUCKING SNEAK AND PICK YOUR BATTLES YOU RETARD

>>386566879
Isn't that armor from metro last light?

>>386567180
Yup. It fits perfectly with frost

>>386566983
>sneak
A bit hard when there's no cover because it's an open desert. You think all the wrecked cars in FO3 were just there for show? They're there for gameplay reasons.

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>>386565310
It's pretty soulless. 1 and 2 maps were great because of the places, in particular in the first one. 3 simply had a lot of things in a more open map than NV. Shit, I want to replay them now.

>>386567325
>a bloo bloo the game doesn't hold my hand

>>386567391
Fallout2 map was pretty shit, and new reno was kind of out of place.

>>386566853
>not savescummimg goodsprings for stealth boys

>>386558360
Power Armor, don't care.

>>386567391
You're forgetting the barriers all over the DC area. New Vegas has less barriers spread out more.

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>>386558360
>yfw beep beep beep beep

>>386567867
>dean has died

>>386567801
DC is a tiny part of the map and is a totally optional area.

>>386567582
Now that you remind me of that, you're not wrong. I hated New Reno, Frisco was just a bunch of maniacs and NCR needed to be glassed.

>>386567801
DC could've been worse inside I think, I remember Vegas was quite a disappointment when I saw it was just a strip and some blocks around. NV also had more smaller locations marked, but whatever, I liked both for different reasons

This reminds me how your stomach isn't IN your body. You havea giant hole through your body like a donut.

>>386567801
come on now, the whole DC area doesn't even cover half of the inaccessible space on the NV map

>>386568153
Excuse me anon, are you ok?

The fuck are you talking about

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>playing Dead Money on NV
>dark as fuck, can't see shit
>poisonous fog everywhere
>traps everywhere
>annoying radio thingies that blow you up everywhere
>can't see any of this shit because it's too fucking dark

Who the fuck thought this was fun?

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waddup guyz

>>386569168
>>386569168
Most people think that your digestive tract is "inside" you, but really, it's a long hole from your mouth to your butt.
Food passes through this hole, and isn't actually "inside" you, unless it's absorbed through the walls of your skin

>>386569695
>Complains about playing a DLC you don't have to play and has no effect on the main game
Apparently you, you faggot.

>>386564483
>wasting a perk slot on fucking Light Step

>>386558360
>He doesn't have high enough explosive skill for it to have an insane long time to detonate
Even without Turbo you shouldn't have any issues disarming one.

>>386569909

I don't get it. Why wouldn't i want to play it?

>>386569695
That was probably the worst DLC of the entire series, F4 ones excluded

>>386569909
It's a fucking game content, even though shit, enjoy not wanting to enjoying something

>>386567391
now post dlcs

nv dlcs has twice as much mapspace than 3 dlcs

>>386570015
>wasting points on explosives
>all explosives already do good damage and who the fuck uses vats for throwing grenades

Why

>>386570194
So you can get Explosives perks and craft more bombs? Is this a joke?

>>386569695
Elijah thought it was pretty funny

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>>386568153
>>386569860

>>386570449
fat mine, good god.

the only problem with explosives are the nukes are so few and far inbetween its almost not worth it. especially when you can launch them farther than the render/projectile distance and they despawn rather than hitting that deathclaw.

fucking dumb.

>>386570449
Frag and plasma grenades already do like 200 damage at base level, who would waste points and perks leveling something that is already good instead of getting perks such as Grim reaper's sprint or sniper? And who needs to craft them when vendors and enemies already drop them like candy?

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>>386567582
Not as out of place as San Francisco. It's like the apocalypse never happened. You've got people starving and hyper advanced communities like the NCR and Vault City because they hoard resources.... and then San Francisco with giant buildings, movie actors, China town, rocket ships, a giant barge, etc

Like what the fuck it was so out of place.

>>386570893
crafting the MFC cluster mines are worth it. Especially in OWB, just raining those little buggers all over the big empty and watching the whole hillside explode when nightstalkers respawn.

>>386570893
>VATS perks
You need points in Explosives for good perks like Cowboy, Grunt, Hit the Deck and Splash Damage.

>>386569695
>can't see any of this shit because it's too fucking dark
that one applies to like the whole series for me
maybe it's just the 2010 graphics, but 4 isn't much better

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Even going past the Cazadors/Deathclaws is an option, you just have to time it right.

reminder that microfusion cells and the widespread availability of both them and lazy weapons completely invalidate the entire premise for fallout

>>386571175
>implying Grim reaper's sprint wasn't overpowered as fuck in 3
>it's still one of the better perks in NV

>>386571613
*lazer weapons

>>386571613

What do you mean? You talking in a sense that they should be rare?

>>386571308
Getting past Deathclaws literally takes
a) getting a Stealth boy
b) waiting for the night
c) crouching along the tracks

>>386571613
Microfusion cells and lazer weapons bring peace to the never ending conflict caused by human nature?

>>386571752
In the sense that the energy crisis couldn't have happened if they're as widespread as they are in-game and in-lore.

>>386571638
>implying VATS perks are ever worth it
Only acceptable on Melee builds because of VATS only attacks

>>386562920
Its a roleplaying game, its for roleplay.

>>386571776
You don't even need those if you are good enough.
Plenty of times I'd run past them in broad daylight without any sneaking.

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>>386571814

Maybe that's the point. If i remember correctly, USA pre-war was invading lotsa countries for their resources. IRRC China was the only other country strong enough to fight back at the time.

Since the game is set in post-war America, it'd make sense cause that was the place where most of the resources were gathered. I might be wrong though, been a while since i last played the classic games.

>>386570669
Think of a donut, put your finger in the hole. Is it in the donut? Its inbetween the donut, but not in the donut. Your digestive tract is the same thing, just longer and squigglier.

>>386572483

I got that, i'm just confused as to why did the thread remind you of that thing in particular.

>>386572457
No, the lore goes to great effort to stress that they were almost post scarcity - fusion power plants hadn't been properly integrated into the electrical grid, and fission synthesizer technology was still being tested at the sierra madre (vending machines), but you can nigger rig a fusion power plant with microfusion cells and household materials which means free infinite power.

>>386572457
The problem with Fallout 3 and 4 And New Vegas to a lesser extent is that they have no sense of time scale. Even a hundred years after the war there shouldn't be huge stores of entirely unlooted cans of food and still full cash registers. Usable crap from before the war should be getting really rare, and new production should have started. They should have farms and at least basic rifling from what is left for them information and techwise. The games would be fine if they were set even 20 years after the bombs, but at the timescale they are set in it makes no sense.

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>>386562117
>Frost for Fallout 4
>"Visit our reddit page for news and updates!"

*farts*

>>386572757
well the settlements and tribes have only been outside of the vault for not long. yes the bombs dropped more than two hundred years, but the all clear only happened semi recently, and that most of the food/land/water is still highly irradiated means venturing out of the safer areas is a dangerous prospect for someone who has no method to check for radiation.

but i agree fully that its silly as fuck to have a completely desolate wasteland with nothing growing, and store shelves full to the brim like NOBODY EVER DECIDED TO DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING, thats some backwards as fuck game design for sure. It would make sense to have those areas that look pristine and untouched be in radioactive areas, and have radiation do more than just be a mildly annoying debuff. 4 got radiation sickness prietty good compared to 3 or nv, and that mechanic would work well for having big areas of "fuck you its irradiated"

>>386573597
Not everyone who inhabits the wasteland is from a Vault, or descended from a Vault dweller.

>>386572757
In New Vegas you really don't have that sense of, "Why the fuck did no one come here for so fucking long" except for 1 or 2 areas.

>>386573745
>everybody who survived did so in undergrounds vault
But literally everybody who inhabits the wasteland is froma vault, or descended from vault dwellers, ghouls are an exception.

>>386573230
Where would you prefer they post updates and news, 4chan.com where threads fall off the board within an hour? Come on, now.

>>386558360
>free money

>>386563448
>>FO3 is honestly Bethesda's best post-Morrowind game.

Man that is one low bar.

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>>386573919

In Fallout 2 there are characters descendant of chinese soldiers that survived the bombs somehow and formed a society.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Shi

There are also characters in the Honest Hearts DLC that survived the bombs despite not being in a Vault when those fell. One of them describes his survival by hiding in a cave and rationing his food for 2 years or so. He was also lucky because the place where he wasn't directly bombed, so the radiation levels were lower. Pic related. He still got exposed and got cancer later on

I'm sure there are other characters that i forgot by now.

>>386574958
The chinese survived by being in a nuclear submarine underwater

>>386558360
if they only worked like this in real life, I might still have my legs.

>>386562852
how the fuck is it a contrarian opinion to dislike 4? it's the most universally hated bethesda game ever. None of my normie friends liked it

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>>386569695
>playing Dead Money on NV
>sneak/energy weapons build
>walk leisurely almost everywhere one-shotting all gasmask fags

>>386575820

>gets head exploded because can't find the radio in time while stepping on traps along the way because you can't see a thing, slowly losing your health because of the smog around you

>>386575820
>one-shotting ghosts
Calling bullshit, the holorifle fucking blows and the only other energy weapon they give you is a dinky little laser pistol
Did you play on fucking easy or what

>>386566853
git gud fgt

>>386576106
how was one supposed to find the radios without going insane?

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>>386558360

>>386576415

Sometimes when you're sneaking you can one-shot the ghosts by exploding their limbs. Most of the time they just fall unconcious and you have to finish them off though.

>>386572757
YOU DID IT! YOU FUCKING DID IT!

YOU JUST DID THE THING!

What part of the Super-Duper Mart set design, or the quest that takes you there tells you that the store had been untouched and unlooted for exactly 200 years? I can't speak to Fallout 4, because I haven't played it. But you did this. Tell me, right now, what it is about the location Super-Duper Mart that screams into your mind "This is an unopened time-capsule from the day the bombs fell 200 years ago?"

>>386577620
the fact that there's food or medicine inside, in original containers, at all
despite there LITERALLY BEING A GROUP OF RAIDING SCAVENGERS INSIDE

>>386569695
Me! It was great fun on hardcore mode.

>>386576415
Nigga what. The Holorifle is the second best Energy Weapon behind the Gauss Rifle.

>>386571069
San Fran was fucking great though so it's excusable

>>386567903
>dog has died
>christine has died

>>386572757
>>386577620

Come on that's videogame logic, if it was realistic then there would be no shit to loot and crafting would be useless.

They can't expect the player to go buy everything

>>386574958
They are exceptions thought, every community descends from vault dwellers, atleast in america, and zion canyon is one of the few places that wasn't directly obliterated by the bombs.

>>386564503
Battle Brothers!

>>386578024
>>386577620
If I remember right, that supermarket was actually a raider base and they stored their food, medicine and ammo in there. At least that's what comes out of the dialogue with Moira afterwards.

For the other random containers like first aid boxes found throughout the game in random empty homes or subway stations it's a valid complaint.

I was never really bothered by that stuff though, same with that things should have, realistically progressed differently after that much time. I mean, radiation doesn't produce ghouls either so I didn't let that bother me.

>>386568153
What the fuck I can't get this off my mind now

>>386575164
>None of my normie friends liked it
I find this really funny how Bethesda shot themselves in the foot. They completely fucked up the RPG elements of the game in order to make it an FPS to attract the normies.
Yet every single friend of mine asked for a refund really fast because they wanted a CoD game and this had "too much talk".

Who the fuck does this game appeal to? "Hardcode gamer"?

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>>386577195
You got a giggle out of me

If anyone here has played the first Fallout, did anyone's game also crashed in Necropolis' sewers?

>>386582000
Yes.

>>386582130
Well, if you're one of the people who suffered that bug, how did you fix it?

>>386582278
I don't know if i like you enought to answer that.

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>>386558360
thank god for project nevada

>>386582364
C'mon, I'm a pretty likable guy. You just need to get to know me.

This probably gets asked a lot but I never go in NV threads so I'm gonna be 'that' guy
What are the essential NV mods? Of any kind

>>386573230
reddit is a great forum solution for communities

>>386573230
You're not gonna get a venereal disease for visiting Reddit for updates, anon. Christ, don't let memes dictate your life.

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>click

>>386582695
NV stutter remover, 4GB patcher, YUP, NVAC, Unofficial Patch Plus, NVSE and JIP NVSE plugin

>>386569978
>"""wasting""" a perk on something useful

okay

>>386582859
>veronica has died
>head crippled

>>386583140
Was thinking the exact same thing.

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>>386583140
>using veronica for anything other than easily getting into the BoS bunker and then having the white gloves eat her

>>386583591
>not leaving her inside the bunker before blowing it up

>>386583591
>letting the white gloves eat anyone
My memory on that quest is a bit blurred but why wouldn't you just rampage as soon as you found you they are cannibals?

>>386583591
The scribe counter is a good skill

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>>386567391
Why do people act like the F3 was anything special? Honestly, it's as much of a desert as NV was and the majority of it was just empty, flat space anyways, the locations and characters are the most important things, not the empty space between them.

>>386584387
Meant to say
>F3 MAP was anything special?

>>386583591
>not pursuing the factory seal that is lesbian pussy