Why can't miyazaki make a game with a good second half?

what
this game doesnt even really have a clearly defined half-way point

>>386556294
Bloodmoon after Rom is quite definitive

>>386557303
it didnt feel like a drop in quality at all to me.
especially if you take the DLC as part of the 2nd half.

bloodborne is better than every dark souls game

prove me wrong

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>>386558228
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>Game has an amazing 2nd act and end game DLC
>Faggots can't accept this

>>386558391
I hate areas like this one where you're forced to rush through the level to find the bell maidens and stop the infinite respawns. I just want to appreciate the scenery and explore, but the faggot bell cunts won't let anyone do that. It'd be fine if they didn't respawn, but they do, so you're always on a timer here.
Sad waste of a cool area.

>>386558391
whats wrong with Yahargul?
i only recently finished bloodborne so i am unfamiliar with what people dont like.
did they hate the lasers?
did they hate the necromancer ladies that resurrect enemies?
or did they hate that it ended in the prison area?
i didnt have any problems with any of those but i can see people getting mildly annoyed by it.
granted The One Reborn was a bad bossfight but i liked the Nightmare stuff with mikolash and Wet Nurse after that.

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>>386558391
Are you ok? Yahar'Gul is one of the best areas in the game. The only problem with it is reusing enemies, but the level design and atmoshere are awesome.

>>386556185
More than 2/3 of Bloodborne is shit.

>>386559132
>3 hunters vs you
>a good area

>>386556185
all of the final bosses in his games are always bad too

>>386559759
I'm sorry you're so shit

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>>386558391
>>386558652

>>386556185
I really liked the nightmare of mensis and upper cathedral Ward desu. Also enjoyed unseen village but was not really a big fan of it.

>>386559582
Welcome back anon, enjoy shitposting.

>>386558302

>more linear
>less build variety
>less weapons
>armor/gear is mostly pointless
>panic dodging works 99% of the time and you barely need END investment to feel like you have infinite stamina
>chalice dungeons are bland/tedious as fuck (even if they were good 'as an idea') and are either stupid easy (boring) or stupid hard (1-shots everywhere)

i could go on. dont get me wrong, i love Bloodborne, but it just doesnt have the same replay value that other souls titles have (well, DaS3 is pretty shit in this regard too, but that's mostly because it tried to be medieval bloodborne).

>>386558391
>>386559132

yahar'gul is OK, but mensis/mergo's loft is just plain tedious garbage. no interesting encounters, and way too long.

>>386561453
>linear
>bad

literally every change to reduce the amount of item bloat is positive as it lets the items that are in the game get more attention to make them have their own niches and uses

you're right about chalice dungeons but i barely even touched them

>>386562032
But BB is only more linear than ds1. It also consistently has better level design than ds1.

Rom, One Reborn, Micolash and Wetnurse were all worse than the bosses before. Yahargul and Mensis as areas were fine though.

>>386561453
It has less weapons but they are way better than any DaS weapon. DaS only has a few weapon types and countless weapons to each style. For example all greatswords in DaS are basically the same weapon just with another skin a little bit changed damage and maybe a special attack. Meanwhile all Bloodbornw weapons differ heavily and have 2 movesets.
Panic dodging also works in DaS 3 (in my opinion it works even better in DaS 3) and DaS 2 is that slow that you don't even panic at all.
I agree on story chalice dungeons, FRCs can be quite fun qith friends.

>>386562261
yeah i know im the one that said it was better than all of dark souls

>>386562327
*Almost all Bloosborne weapons differ heavily. Saw spear and cleaver are pretty similar.

>>386559582
I'm glad you post this image constantly because it lets me know I don't need to bother reading whatever awful opinion you're dropping in your post.

>>386562581
The tricked forms are different and also have different damage effects.

>>386561591
This. There are still some good stuff like the giant spider, the brain or the "lalalala" but the rest is dog shit. Even the asthetic is average compared to the rest of the game.

>>386562261
But DeS is the least linear game in the franchise.

>>386556185
Why can't Miyazaki make a good game

Who is your weapon fu and why isn't it the tonitrus

>>386563408
For souls fans, the definition of non linear is that an area must be connected to multiple areas. Bloodborne also gives you multiple areas to tackle( vicar amelia can be anything from your 2nd to 7th boss) but people still call it linear.

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>>386558391
>Yahar'gul
>bad

>>386563680
Because it doesn't have SHING noises like he Burial blade or the BoM.

>>386562581
They scale with different stats so, they follow your definition of weapon variety.

>>386562261
Both DeS and DaS2 are less linear than DaS1.

>>386559582
Hey anon. Still going strong I see.

>>386562897
>>386564278
I don't know, but I feel like half of their moveset is almost the same.
In DaS games I'd call big sword A that scales with Dex and big sword B that scales with Str, that have the same moveset (except for maybe one special attack) similiar.
I'm not trying to talk BB down, but I feel like these two weapons out of the many cool ones it has are pretty similiar. I also think the Saw Spear was a mistake considering how strong it is and that Bloodborne wont get any patches anymore.

>>386556185
Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne have a good second half.

>>386559759
The most fun parts of the game are the hunter fights, retard

>>386564908

What this guy said. Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne have great second halves. The second half of Bloodborne is even better than the first, because shit gets fucking weird and Amygdalas pop up everywhere.

Dark Souls 2's ending was bizarre. There really felt like there was no plot progression, and then the player enters giants' dreams (which I liked, but it did feel out of place). The final boss battle is in an area the player already went to already, which was weird.

I never beat Dark Souls, despite having over a 100 hours in it.

>>386565572
Maybe the one versus one fights, not 3

>>386556185
I swear to god it's just one retarded fuck who keeps repeating this garbage-ass opinion. If anything the game ramps up how varied the environments get after this point. Suddenly you wind up seeing all sorts of strange crap and you finally stop fighting villagers and priests like you were doing the whole game. The optional areas and dreamscapes are great too.

>>386565651
I love Bloodborne but the bosses of the 2nd half are bad. These fat blobs like Rom and the One Reborn, that just sit there, don't fit into Bloodborne. Fast attacking beasts from the fitst half are way better. Micolash is wasted potential in my optionion because he only uses spells that the player can use, they could have gave him some new stuff. Fucking hemwick witches have other spells.
Wetnurse was also nothing special. Gehrman was absoloutly great. Moon Presenece was a dissapointment.

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>>386560975
>uses boxart armour and weapons for videos

>>386558652
Just do that when they' re dead. Don' t be such a fucking faggot.

>>386559582
Right, and you got the trophies for two different endings right at the same time, because ...

Fag.

>>386556185
I don't know how this meme opinion came to be.

Everything in the second half is good except for Yahar'gul. I agree that it never quite reaches the quality of Central Yharnam but it's still good.

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How the fuck is it possible that a game with minimal cinematics has the most kino cutscenes of all time.

>>386566780
They make more of an impression when there is less of them

>>386566378
It's not the boxart armour though. He's got the wrong hat on.

>>386566878
oh he does too

oh well, close enough

>>386566760
>One reborn
>Elevator jump
>winter lanterns
>poison area

>>386566609
10 minutes in between mate

he probably had 2 different save files set up right before he fought gehrman, and then it took him 10 minutes to fight the Moon Presence lmao

Alright faggots rate your top 5 areas, bosses and weapons

Areas
>Central Yharnam
>Upper Cathedral Ward
>Research Hall
>Forsaken Castle Cainhurst
>Forbidden Woods

Bosses
>Lady Maria
>Ludwig
>Gehrman
>Logarius
>Gascoigne

Weapons
>Rakuyo
>Boom Hammer
>Blades of Mercy
>Holy Blade
>Saw Cleaver

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>>386566780
>keep seeing these 2 images and all the kino hype
>finally play BB + DLC myself
>it's actually kino

I was impressed

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>>386567028
>winter lanterns aren't the best enemy in the game

shiggy

>>386566780
Kino, more like kill yourself

>>386567028
>One reborn
I agree
>Elevator jump
Aren't hard.
>winter lanterns
Put on armor with high frenzy resist. Put runes on. Stunlock them if possible. Use the anti frenzy item.
>poison area
Antidote and Church gear. The rockthrowers in NF are shitty though.

The only bad areas in the game to go through again are the Nightmare Frontier and Research Hall. I don't know why, but they just feel so tedious to me to get through. I wish the Lecture Building and Byrgenwerth were longer areas. The atmosphere was great and made me feel like I was actually in a Lovecraft story, but they're both over in like 10 minutes tops.

>>386567182
Ahhh, kin, or some say kino

Bloodborne's major issue is that the game itself is very short. So they pad out the rest of the time with the god awful Chalice Dungeon system.

>HEY GUYS WANT TO RUN THROUGH THE SAME 5 ROOMS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER? WON'T THAT BE FUN?

>>386567642
Grant us memes, grant us memes

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>finished Bloodborne a week ago
>now going through Nioh as a Katana wielding parry Badass with Ninja shit
god damn 2 wonderful games back to back, i love it.
>>386567151
Orphan of Kos is probably the best fight in the entire series gameplay wise since it lets you use all the tools the game taught you in the previous 40 hours.
Maria, Ludwig and Gehrman have better aesthetics and are very memorable because of all that.

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>>386567151

Areas
>Fishing Hamlet
>Central Yharnam
>Upper Cathedral Ward
>Nightmare of Mensis
>Nightmare Frontier

Bosses
>Ludwig
>Orphan of Kos
>Gehrman
>Loran Darkbeast/Darkbeast Paarl
>Laurence

Weapons
>Beasthunter Saif
>Beasthunter Saif
>Beasthunter Saif
>Beasthunter Saif
>Burial Blade

>>386567873
OoK would be my #6 yeah

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>>386567151
>Areas
>>Fishing Hamlet
>>Cainhurst
>>Lecture Building
>>Central Yharnam
>>Abandoned Old Workshop

>Bosses
>>Orphan of Kos
>>Ludwig
>>Ebrietas
>>Maria
>>Logarius

>Weapons
>>Burial Blade
>>Blades of Mercy
>>Tonitrus
>>Holy Moonlight Sword
>>Threaded Cane

>>386568164
>abandoned old workshop
mate come on, at least try

>>386568245
I legitimately thought it was the coolest shit when I stumbled upon that area the first time even if it's really not a full fledged one. But if you want an actual "area" there I guess substitute the Upper Cathedral Ward.

>>386567702
After I killed Yharnam on my first playthrough I never touched that shit again or even bothered with pvp and autismal gem grinding. The game is short but with the DLC I feel like it's long enough to feel complete and concise. It's longer than Demon's Souls at least.

>>386562261

BB has a couple mostly irrelevant branches, and you are force-funneled through the main game bosses in a highly specific order. probably most importantly, a LOT of weapons are locked behind later game bosses, which is lame to me since getting a weapon you only use for a fraction of the game is shitty, especially when NG+ is pointless. In Das1 + 2 you have access to the vast majority of the game very early on and even though there are certainly SOME weapons locked behind late game content, there is a ton of stuff quickly accessible early on and you can complete much of the bosses/content in any order you choose (even if some of the paths are tough to find until you understand where to go). This is what i meant by replay value, as much as i love BB, playing the same sequence over and over isn't as fun as trying different routes. even in DaS2, you can access the DLCs really early on if you want to, which gives you 3 huge areas to explore in addition to all the main game content. along those lines i won't argue that BB isn't the better game overall, but there's just not as much stuff to come back to.

>>386556185
why cant miyateriyaki make a good game?

>>386556294
You should play the game before you say stupid shit like that

>>386562327
Wet nurse is at least a great design, even if the fight itself is super easy. Easily my favorite look out of the 2nd half bosses, Moon Presence aside, of course.

>>386567151
Areas
>Hunter's Nightmare
>Central Yharnam
>Fishing Hamlet
>Nightmare of Mensis
>Hunters Dream

Bosses
>Ludwig
>Vicar Amelia
>Logarius
>Moon Presence
>Orphan of Kos

Weapons
>Wheel
>Holy Moonlight Sword
>Saif
>Bloodletter
>Kirk Hammer

>>386567151
Areas
Old Yharnam
Hunters Nightmare
Upper Cathedral Ward
Yharnam
Cainhurst

Bosses:
Gehrman
Ludwig
OoK
Gascoigne
Laurence

Weapons:
Burial Blade
Logarius' Wheel
Bloodletter
Cane
Kos Parasite

>>386569589
The music was great and she had a cool design but the attacks were just so slow, it almost felt like the giant in DaS 2, just that you can move way faster than in DaS 2. I'm not sure what you mean by "look out..." (I'm nit native english speaker) do you mean Wetnurse and MP were good or bad?

>>386570272
He's saying he likes the visual design of Wet Nurse more than the other bosses in the later half of the game.

>>386557303
>after Rom is the second half
There's like 3 bosses post-Rom. How is that half of the game?

>>386560975
is this supposed to be impressive or something?

>>386570272
He is saying that of all the bosses in BB, he likes the way the Wet Nurse looks the most.

>>386556185
After defeating Rom the spider BB becomes shit.
I mean DS/DeS both games had a slow start but during middle game they are pretty fun, I don't know why BB gets boring and also ends so abruptly.

My english is not the best I know.

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>you couldn't protect her smile

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>>386556185
I want Bloodborne 2 with vampires and frankenstein.

>>386570757
The One Reborn
Amygdala
Micolash
Mergo
Ebrietas
Celestial Emissary
Gehrman
Moon Presence

>>386571084
People keep saying the game goes to shit, but aren't specific. What is so bad about the second half? I really liked it, plus the DLC is amazing.

>>386572029
I actually want Bloodborne 2 to explore more alien realms, like where the great ones actually dwell. Imagine something like Lovecraft's The Shadow Out of Time with ancient architecture and libraries made for these giant tentacled beings or some actual non-euclidean structures.

>>386560673
Gwyn was a great fight if you went in blind and didn't read beforehand that he could be parried.

I liked soul of cinder a lot and thought the stance changing was very cool, although I wish the power levels of the forms was more even. Curved sword ninja flip form is very strong while the caster is a pushover, for example.

Dks2 entire base game is pretty mediocre, people forget that the Crowns weren't available on launch when they defend it

>>386556185
The fuck are you talking about? The stretch from Rom through to the end of the game is fucking brilliant. A nightmarish trip that throws out so many twists and surprises you can hardly put the controller down. I did it all in one sitting because I was so absorbed in the experience.

>>386572303
BTFO

>>386572303
Amy G can be done before Rom. It's not Mergo who you fight it's her wetnurse. Mergo is a baby.

>>386556185
Dark souls 3 had an amazing second half.

>>386572303
paarl and Logarius could also be 2nd half bosses.