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Dark souls has a new contender

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The souls genre has been redefined and mastered by the west.
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>over the shoulder melee

Why is this the choice amongst new adventure games? It looks terrible.
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what the fuck is this, you faggot?
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>>386545897
in all reality, this game does have an interesting story.
i find it cool to see stuff like dementia and schizophrenia in a time when there was no treatment. It means it'll just get worse and worse overtime, and there's nothing the victim can do about it. It makes for some interesting horror experiences.
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>>386545897
This looks more like a bad version of the new God of War's combat then a mastered version of Souls combat.
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>>386545983
go back to /tv/
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>>386545897
can we move the camera back, just a bit please? Also, what is it with games that look like this having that snappy looking animation? It always looks like it instantly robots to the next pose and it looks like shit. There's these little pauses in between the next action, gross.
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Looks really floaty, also why does the other guy just stand still and watch his buddy get slapped around for ten seconds straight

Is this a """cinematic experience""" or am I just missing the health bar (please tell me it's not bloody screen)

Also if there's no stamina bar it's not really souls that's more like DMC or bayonetta

I understand this is bait but I'm curious about this game since I know nothing about it
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>>386545897
>walking simulator with press x to not die combat
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>>386545897
That 35 degree FoV. What the fuck is going on with gaming?
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>>386546187
>>386546169
>>386546184
>>386546137
>>386546108
>>386545983
If you die, the game deletes your save. It's even harder than dark souls
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>No character creation

Annnnnd pass
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>>386546232
woah so brave
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>>386545983
ok, someone explain this meme to me

>>386545897
What's with those crazy hitsparks?
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>>386546232
Nice artificial difficulty
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>>386546232
You literally must be diagnosed with terminal ADHD to miss those QTEs.
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>>386546050
It's cinematic.

>>386546232
>if you die
How hard is the game?
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>>386545897

>that fucking camera
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>>386545897
This looks fucking horrible. The combat seems incredibly floaty. The depth of Souls was that, not only did most enemies die in 2 or 3 hits, so did you.

Sell me.
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>>386546232
you have to die multiple times for it to delete your save, which is next to impossible unless you just afk during combat (even then it would take a long time), also all that mechanic will do is make people copy their save files so they dont have to start from scratch. it's an interesting mechanic, hearkening back to the days of saves and continues, but ultimately useless in the current year.
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>>386546493
you die in 3 hits too
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It looks really not fun. Dark Souls is all about fighting game footsies. This game looks like it's about getting close and mashing a single button. And to add to that the terrible camera angle? Nope.
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>>386545897
>that flashing bag
Let me guess, it's not a QTE.
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>>386546232
You have to die over 10 times. It's not one hit permadeath and immediately deletes your save
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>>386546512
*days of lives and continues
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>>386546537
So, enemies have 50 billion hp, while we scratch away at them like an autistic child, relying on "press dodge to cool" combat. Okay.
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>>386545897
>NT finally makes a game with solid combat
>But this is their game where they moved away from combat as the focus
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>>386545897
>6 hours long cinematic qte shitfest with permadeath
won't bother pirating
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>>386545897

looks awful

>from the creators of DmC!
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>make the normal enemies take 100 hits
>call it hard
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>>386545897
>souls genre
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>>386545897

Why do the enemies take a million years to wind up their attacks? Is it just my imagination or are they ridiculously slow?
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>>386546606
>press dodge to cool
Literally Souls/Bloodborne
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>>386545897
those animations look janky as fuck desu
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>>386545897
>The souls genre

sure fucking shitty fromdrone
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"Bad" camera adds to the difficulty since you can't anticipate incoming attacks and have to pay attention to the number and position of enemies.

Discuss.
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>>386546540
>comparing Dark Souls to fighting games
>strafe until backstab combat
kill yourself
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>>386546232
Dark souls isn't and has never been about being hard for the sake of being hard. It's not I Wanna Be The Guy, the fact that you have always had unlimited chances, unlimited healing items that refresh at every checkpoint, and permanent character progression through leveling and weapon upgrades should have been proof enough of that.

The difficulty of the souls series has always been about contributing to ATMOSPHERE, which is something that they do very well and which most dumb hard for the sake of being hard games don't.

The oppressive, overwhelming feeling of being trapped in blighttown for the first time as a new player would be totally lost if you could just pause the game to use consumables or warp away at any point to continue your progress later.

Lots of boss fogs are located directly in front of bonfires, people like Lautrec and Hawkwood acknowledge that the player has died and is trying again. The synergy between game play and narrative is what makes the series so immersive. Drinking estus to heal in a boss fight, dying, respawning at a bonfire and trying again doesn't break immersion at all vs pausing to drink health potions and being forced to reload an earlier save upon death.

A game that deletes your saves on death is the antithesis of the souls "no fail state" school of thought.

If people just wanted difficulty there would be more astronauts.
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>>386545897
looks better than the usual Ninja Theory crap. Given, that`s not saying much. Still floaty and with what looks like no depth. They haven`t changed since Heavenly Sword.
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>>386547083
>r/gaming
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This game looks terrible.
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>>386546319
>>386546364
>>386546393
>>386546449
>>386546457
>>386546493
>>386546512
>>386546626
>>386547037
>>386546540

Can you survive the entire game? One death, it's over. The hardest game in a long while. With evolved and fluid combat surpassing even dark souls.Prepare to die.
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>>386547335
Stop falseflagging, lad.
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Does this have denuvo
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>>386547335
>One death, it's over.
Other people ITT say otherwise. Got proofs?
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>>386546232
Git Gud
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>>386547386
Yes. So try out the game on steam, I guarantee you will get hooked
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What's the appeal? The combat looks as dumbed down as in RYSE.
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>>386547335
>do a long combo on an enemy until they break out and shield
>strafe until they decide to attack
>repeat

the only thing hard here is how you're shilling this retarded game.
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>>386545897
Is Dark Souls going to go down as one of the most innovative games of all time? Before it there were plenty of games that when they came out the industry eventually copied them so much that it essentially changed the entire industry into a new direction.

FPS were even at one point called Doom clones since Doom popularized the FPS that much. Dark Souls is without a doubt now in this same league. Truly the most revolutionary game of our modern times.
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>>386547386
nope, probably realised it's pointless since the game is only a few hours long anyway & a lot of "would be pirates" could just watch a 3 hour long lets play & be satisfied
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>>386547138
Paragraphs aren't reddit spacing you fucking doublenigger. I know you weren't born yet, but if you go check archives from fucking 2007 you'll find people on /b/ using spacing even for just a few lines because it makes reading easier
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>>386546540
>fighting game footsies
>push heavily contested ground, poke and punish on hit confirm or unsafe hit

>Dark Souls
>be in range before you attack. counter rpg mechanics with parries, backstabs or the occasional glitch

Comparing it to fighting games doesn't make it look better.
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>>386546364
Some fat landwhales (subspecies:sjw) that stream themselves watching GoT yell that when Danny is winning (which is all the time because she's a mary sue).
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>>386545897
A Ninja Theory Game? HAHAHA.
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>>386545897
>another cinematic experience game with ugly female lead made to compete with horizon
>HAHA DARK SOULS BTFO
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>>386547529
There is only like 2 Dark Souls clones though & this is not one of them at all
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>>386545897
just waiting to pirate, like all the souls series and other acclaimed "soul-likes"
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>>386545897
>The movement style attack speed and animations.

Nah it really does not.
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death by a thousand cuts this game
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>batman combat
>redefined and mastered
keep being a retard
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>>386545897
I hope you get a helmet to cover the hideous MC's face
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>>386546118
>i find it cool to see stuff like dementia and schizophrenia in a time when there was no treatment. It means it'll just get worse and worse overtime, and there's nothing the victim can do about it. It makes for some interesting horror experiences.

The problem is when we are talking about these neurological disorders it's not just "Oh, I have hallucinations", your thought process itself is completely fucked. Trying to get someone to experience someone else's thought pattern is like trying to explain the way a food tastes. You can say "It taste like chicken" or "It tastes sweet" but that's not explaining taste, that's just comparing to another food's taste. In no way do I comprehend what that means to you.
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>>386547335
>Can you survive the entire game?
Considering that Ninja Theory's games are piss easy and about 4-5 hours long, I think most people will be fine.
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>>386547083
Nice reddit spacing, didn't read.
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>>386547690
>only like 2 Dark Souls clones

nioh
dragons dogma
the surge
hollow knight
salt and sactuary
titan souls
lords of the fallen
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>>386547690
No you aren't paying attention then. There is way more than that. Plus plenty of games are borrowing some elements from the Souls games even if they don't outright copy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woR-wHuxet0

There is plenty more besides just even this video.
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NT seem decent at making art assets. They need to stay away from story, combat and gameplay mechancis though.
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>>386547529
>Is Dark Souls going to go down as one of the most innovative games of all time?
Yes but only because nobody will ever really look into the games that created the ideas that Dark Souls used. By 2100 Dark Souls will be known as the first RPG ever made.
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>>386547690
>he doesn't know

the dark souls of castlevania is coming out soon
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>>386547335
What about the forced stealth?
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>>386545897
My absolute normie friend that eats up any AAA trash said that the game is boring.
It must be real hot garbage.
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>>386545897

Looks like shit. I expecially love how that otgher dude juststands around doing fuck all. Pure cancer game like the surge
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>>386547991
That means it's good though
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>>386545897
>dude weed lmao hair
Nah.
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>>386547946
Well that's the case with most "AA" developers. Your Technomancer/Mars: War Logs, your Remember Me, your Surge/LotF and your Hellblade/Enslaved/Heavenly Sword: decent art, mediocre to bad combat and dogshit stories.
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>>386547974
>By 2100 Dark Souls will be known as the first RPG ever made.

kek I can actually see this happening with how stupid the masses truly are.
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>>386545897
Is this game about Norse mythology? I heard people say it but it isnt advertised as such.
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>>386547978
They fixed the weightless swings, right?
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>>386547615
that sounds hilarious
and dumb
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What is with all of the shilling for this game? These marketing fucks have got to stop.
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If it wasn't ninja theory and I could play as a guy I may of picked this game up when it was half price, but seeing how I can't i'll pass like most.
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>>386547974

What games?

Tell me, what fucking games are you talking about? There is no other game before demon souls that played like it at all.
Kings field? And fps game with shitty combat
Legend of zelda? puzzles up the ass

what
games
are
you
talking
about
you
contrarian
hipster
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>>386545897
Yes.
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>>386545897
- camera is too close, so you can hardly see more than one enemy at once
- enemies feel like sponges and take a ton of hits to kill, so the hits you land don't feel as impactful
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>>386548214
>shilling
>people ironically making fun of it and people outright making fun of it
NT wouldn't bother to shill here, man. They're perfectly aware of their reputation after DmC.
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>>386547978
Wtf no reaction to the player hits. What kind of bullshit is that?
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>>386548095
Spiders is the worst AA dev out there I don't know who keeps funding them.
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>>386548306
In Dark Souls they call it "poise".

The player animations do suck, though. No implicit 30/60 split, just wappity smappity.
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>>386548252
this was equally fun and rage-inducing. I enjoyed
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>>386548095
>Your Technomancer/Mars: War Logs

Spiders are nowhere near as good as NT.
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>>386548252

What a pile of misery and broken hopes that was.
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>>386548289
I don't know this is like the fifth thread I've seen in the last few days. Plus they shilled this garbage all over e3 and the retards on reddit eat this shit up for breakfast
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It's over
Hellblade is better than dark souls. It's even harder in that it DELETES YOUR SAVEFILE IF YOU DIE
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>>386545897
Why is there so many female protagonists in modern gaming? It seems half of all games I see now have a female protagonist. Especially strong female protagonists in games they used to never be in.
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>>386548584
>>/pol/
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>>386547335
stop posting.
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>>386548341
They're French, so probably gov. arts grants.

>>386548406
Not that far off asset wise.

Apart from DmC: DMC, NT's other offerings just play like complete fuckin garbage, so they're pretty comparable.

Kung Fu Chaos being the exception. Neat Powerstone clone.
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>>386548584
There are plenty of female protagonists, but most of them are written so poorly that its retarded. I wouldn't call most of the recent female protagonists strong female characters.
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>>386548537
Why do people keep going on about how this is a good thing?
This is just a sign the game is really short so they added the whole save deletion bullshit to make it so the game feel longer.

Also I've watched footage and there's a timed maze sequence that kills you if you take too long or touch a wall so there's that.
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>>386545897
looks like two retards swinging pool noodles at each other
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>>386548670
Dmc: DMC is a bad Devil May Cry game, maybe if it didn't have the DMC name it wouldn't be such utter trash.
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>>386548229
>Lockon mechanic straight out of OoT
>Magic mechanics straight out of D&D
>Combat similar to Onimusha with camera mechanics straight out of pretty much every 3D platformer
Name anything you like about Dark Souls and I can probably find another game that did it first.
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This looks like a mobile phone game, what the fuck.
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>>386545897
Shill thread. Please leave.
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>>386548289
>NT wouldn't bother to shill here, man.

NT don't personally shill. They pay a marketing firm to do it for them and that firm probably either has a social media shilling department or outsources to a social media shilling company who then comes here and spout off the required points on their brief sheet, maybe doing some damage control if there's anything in the brief like "If someone says this then say in reply..." They don't really care if it's effective, it's not like that can be tangibly measured, they just go through the motions and then send the bill.
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>>386547854
>nioh
No, Nioh started development before Souls came out, Nioh used the Souls meme to get idiots to buy it, it's more like Diablo meets Dynstaty Warriors
>dragons dogma
This was made by the DMC team, DMC came out almost a decade before Demons Souls
>the surge
one of the clones i mentioned
>hollow knight
SOTN clone, do you know what a Metroidvania is?
>salt and sactuary
It's 2D, but yeah it obviously rips off DaS's UI
>titan souls
jesus christ no
>lords of the fallen
one of the clones i mentioned

>>386547978
This is based off of God Eater, once again like Nioh, they are using Souls to market it, but it's not a Souls clone
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>>386548584
Are you underage? In the late 90's early 2000's there were loads of them. It was 7th gen which solidified the grizzled white guy with brown hair meme.
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>>386548720
>>Why do people keep going on about how this is a good thing?
>This is just a sign the game is really short so they added the whole save deletion bullshit to make it so the game feel longer.

Not him but how is it not a good thing? Old games literally made you start over from the beginning if you die enough times.See the original mario, castlevania, resident evil, megaman.

I'm glad games are doing this now, fuck casual shit.
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How is this game like Dark Souls? I keep seeing this comparison. Because you fight with swords?
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>>386548780
Well if it didn't have DMC's name on it, it probably wouldn't have had Capcom personally overseeing the gameplay. Although they apparentally didn't intervene on that dumbass colour-coded stuff.

It's easily the best western hack n slash I've played, though. That's kinda sad. Fair bit about Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z.
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>>386546232
Harder than Dark Souls....? Bakana! It's not possible!
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>>386546050
Its a Tomb Raider thing. I mean PS1 Tomb Raider, who pionered that view.
Zelda64s views are similar, but further back(so you can see if you walk inot a pit backwards) and tilted so you can view distance.
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>>386548912
I just explained why. It was only done to make games feel longer instead of actually being longer.
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>>386548976
It is, that's why so many people are raving about it Such a good game
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>>386548912
>See the original mario
See Mario 2. I started abusing save states because Nintendo thought it would be funny to make a bunch of pipes send you back to world 1.
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>>386548929
No idea, I assumed it was more like God of War/Dante's Inferno than Dark Souls.
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>>386548957
Capcom overseeing the game doesn't really mean much considering their retarded sales division is the reason dmc is dead in the first place.
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>>386549074
Casual as fuck
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>>386545897
>slash some idiot with no armor 7 times with a longsword
>he's still standing
>attacks look like they have no weight whatsoever
>other enemy just fucking about while you beat the shit out of his friend
this looks like it missed the point of "dark souls gameplay" entirely
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>>386548898
There are lot of ds elements in hollow knight though, the stuff about knight hollow etc
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Is it the Dark Souls of the souls genre though?
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>>386549147
>kill stronk big guy
>he flipping all over
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>>386549217
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>>386547854
>Make list
>Include a SOTC + hardcore DND clone on that list
>Include another shitty SOTC clone on the list
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>>386549000
Wot?
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>>386547853
not him, but this "reddit spacing" meme is the dumbest shit.
>hey, this guy breaks up his thoughts so that they're easier to read instead of just being a huge block of text!
>he must be from reddit!
fuck off
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>>386549147
>attacks look like they have no weight whatsoever
Player character is a woman, what did you expect?
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>>386549090
Capcom: Shit business, great mechanical engineers and general designers. Or however the saying goes.
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>>386549130
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>>386549324
Its exactly what it looks like. Quake and Unreals third person views also look exactly the same.
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>>386548796
>borrows elements from other games
>like countless ones before that
>hurr shut the fuck up it doesn't deserve any recognition

If you are going to play that game then Mario doesn't deserve to be recognized as a platformer that innovated and popularized since Pitfall did platforming first. Oh I'm sorry is that game too old for you to even know exists?
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This looks so fucking bad. The worst part is the new God of War seems to follow the same exact formula. Fuck this gay earth.
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>>386547083
>Dark souls isn't and has never been about being hard for the sake of being hard.
stopped reading this there
thats literally what it is
artificial difficulty
some slow ass niggers shooting 3/4 on ur hp on hit and u do like 1/30 on hit
its boring and made just for the sake of being hard to attract kids and niggers
if you want hard games that take skill just play fast paced shooters on highest difficulty like doom and wolfenstein and shiet
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>>386548361
in dark souls 3 enemies that poise through your attacks still react to being whacked by a giant sword.
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>>386545897
>cinematic "mash X to win :)"
Yeah whatever, Tameme, enjoy your abortion of a game
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>>386547335
Thanks for shilling your game, I'll check it out on TPB.
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>>386549494
>some slow ass niggers shooting 3/4 on ur hp on hit and u do like 1/30 on hit
you're either really bad at making good decisions or really bad at dark souls
or both
probably both
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>>386549147
>thats because she is using a different angle ;)
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>>386547335
how much are they paying you for this holy shit
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>>386549728
no i just stopped playing after the first 10 minutes
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>>386549446
The fact that you've chosen to insult me rather than even attempt to discuss anything that Dark Souls actually created makes me think that you don't like what I'm saying but can't directly address it. Why'd you even ask me for examples if you were just going to disregard them?
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>>386546364
It's what teen girls who are either black or act like they're black say to one another to compliment each other in as shallow of a way as possible
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>>386549830
Clearly not a lot when they have to say crap like this. Even when trying to shill Ninja Theory does a bad job.
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>>386549293
>persona games are a genre
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>>386549293
Isn't Dark Souls the Dark Souls of fantasy RPGs?
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>>386548898
>Nioh started development before Souls came out
You act like this means they had the complete idea of how the gameplay would look in working form before the game came out. We don't know that for sure. I think it is safe to say Dark Souls did have an influence on this game. Just because it started development before it is irrelevant.
>This was made by the DMC team, DMC came out almost a decade before Demons Souls
Another irrelevant statement here. What does this even mean? Do you even know?
>SOTN clone, do you know what a Metroidvania is?
You just aren't getting it do you?
>It's 2D, but yeah it obviously rips off DaS's UI
Yep you don't get the argument here at all. It isn't about being a complete 1:1 clone of the game in its entirety. It is about what it innovated and what it popularized and how a certain company borrows elements from said game. Plenty of games borrowed recharging health/shield mechanic thanks to Halo popularizing said mechanic. They also popularized two weapons limit. This is why many always mention how when games do this it is thanks to games like Halo. Although so much time now has passed since 2002 or whatever year Halo CE released that I'm sure it is being forgotten now by shits like you how much Halo popularized the FPS genre and even had influence outside of that genre.

That is the end of my reply. You clearly don't get it.
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>>386549835
oh, so you are retarded
thanks for clearing that up
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>>386549728
>bad at making good decisions

That's overstating it a little.

Souls games are 90% a test of patience, just stay out of harms way until a window of opportunity presents itself. They aren't exactly grand strategy games or something.
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>>386550131
i was referring to the
>and u do like 1/30 on hit
part

the only way you could end up with a weapon that shitty at any point in the game, is if you're really bad at making good decisions
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>>386549002

This just goes to show the paradigm shift that happened once video games went mass market.

You used to *beat* games. Games where about mastery. The difficulty was not about making games longer per see, it the was the whole point of the experience. You started again until you got it right, and would always get it right. I can still pick up some old NES game and finish by muscle memory alone.

You *finish* games nowadays. It's not anymore so much about the process as much as the content exhaustion. And if people can't access the content, they complain about lockout. And they only ever need to access it once before never touching it again, because by then it has lost most value.
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>>386550035
what
im retarded because I didnt spend hours in souls and reading about items or whatever the fuck you soulsfags do to do 1/20 dmg instead of 1/30 on hit
i didnt enjoy it and found it as you said hard for the sake of being hard so i quit
how does that make me retarded
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>>386545897
Oh God it's fucking Ryse all over again
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>>386550000
how low have gets gone
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>>386549002
That is sort of true. It is also because of technical limitations as well. They kind of had no choice in the matter really. Imagine paying 40 bucks or so for a game only to beat it easily in 30 minutes. You probably may feel ripped off or want to get some money back.

Also times then were different. Difficult games were just seen as normal. Or at least difficult according to 2017 standards which now see games like Crash Bandicoot as these very hard games that are nearly unbeatable. A difficult game back then was as normal as seeing a cutscene in a game is today. A lack of cutscenes would make people turn their heads if they saw a game like that. These days a hard game is what does it since everything is so easy.
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>>386547854
How fucking stupid do you have to be to say that Hollow Knight is a dark souls clone? It's a fucking metroidvania, and Dark Souls didn't invent the "go back to where you died to get your stuff back" meme. And Titan Souls is even farther from Dark Souls in every way; it's a Shadow of the Colossus clone, not even close to Dark Souls
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>>386550289
>it is impossible to avoid damage in a souls game
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>>386545897
What's up with all this Hellblade shilling?
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>>386550445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxzIrrIO2v8
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>>386545897
STOP
FUCKING
COMPARING
VERYTHING
TO
DARK
SOULS

This game never meant to be a "souls" game nor is it trying to appeals to it's audience. The Dark Souls series concluded with the release of last one and we've had our time with them. Its time for new shit to come out and take the place of meme genres that overstayed their bloody welcome.
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>>386548780
Is /v/ the only place that gets so eternally assblasted about DMC?
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>>386549494
>artificial difficulty
lol
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>>386546232
>If you die, the game deletes your save. It's even harder than dark souls

Many games are difficult. Difficulty doesn't make something good and unless something is difficult for the right reason it's bad.

Deleting your save is just something edgy without any real positive merit.
It's more along the designer trap of wanting to put "interesting" things in their games over designing games that are enjoyable to play.
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>>386549293
POE is the Dark Souls of action RPG's? I always thought people said Diablo 2 was? Man I got to play this game.
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>>386550616
>Hating on dark souls

get out
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>>386550496
The Nioh shilling here was far worse, people were calling it the next Dark Souls nonstop and then it has shit level design and no enemy variety. Most disappointing game of the year.
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I'm getting to an age where permadeath is more like a real worry rather than a fun game mechanic so...
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>>386550884
Nothing wrong with that. Old games did it
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>>386550780
Nioh had great gameplay though and had some pretty good level design. In many ways it's better than Dark Souls, but they're also different games focusing on different things.
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>>386550780
>For Honor's gonna be the Souls killer guys, just you wait!
>Nioh's gonna be the Souls killer guys, just you wait!
And then, to nobody's surprise, dudes didn't want to migrate to games where they couldn't stack everything in their favor and become ridiculously OP within an hour.
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>>386550941
Old games are anything but an demonstration of good design.
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>>386550941
>Nothing wrong with that. Old games did it

The difference here is that those games were short. Replaying 10 hours is very different from replaying 1 hour.
If youy have permadeath you need to have a good reason for it.
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>>386551114
This game is short too. same thing
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>>386550713
Im not hating. Im saying its fucking over.
Stop connecting imaginary dots between dark souls and other games that are clearly not it. The amount of stupidity here will drive this board to believe that every bloody game thats using swords and axes is a dark souls rip-off for fucks sake. And the problem in the bigger picture is that developers are affected by these retarded nonsensical opinions and some times think that the souls series is their competitor when in reality they have next to nothing to do with it. Let it die already.
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>>386550884
in this game it's sort of justified with the whole corruption mechanic, plus you get multiple "lives." It's not a case of the devs being dicks just to be dicks.
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>>386551039
All souls games are full of broken OP shit, they all went through several passes of balance and never hit the sweet spot.
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>>386545897
The combat looks janky as fuck and no fun, but I think dark souls is that way, so maybe it has been redefined.

None of this matters though because its Ninja theory one of THE most dogshit developers of our time. All they do is take a popular formula and make it shit.
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>>386550713
It isn't hating on Dark Souls to want to fucking move on. Dark Souls 1 is my favorite game of all time, and Bloodborne and Demon's are also up there, but I really, REALLY don't want "soulslikes" to become a meme genre that gets a million yearly shitty releases. I want FROM and other devs to move on and maybe make more stuff that takes ideas from DS, but not keep making clones of it. I don't want every ARPG to become a "soulslike"
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>>386550289
>no i just stopped playing after the first 10 minutes
>somehow feels qualified to criticize a game's very basis
>baseless counterpoints
no you're right, you do come off as a very smart individual
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>>386545897
Those are some of the dumbest animations i've seen in a while.
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>>386551039
Theres no fucking souls killer. The series finished with the release of 3 and now the player base shrinks day by day. Its excactly what happens with every game out there unless its an MMO where it keeps at least a million players active for years
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>>386550657
>Color coated enemies
>Vergil mobile
>Angel
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>>386551275
Why is a singleplayer game suppose to be balanced?
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>>386550657
I mean it's a solid, decent game.

I know the saying's been memed to death, but it's just not a good DMC game. Or at least not an action game that is of the pedigree that is to be expected of the game.
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>>386551457
>Theres no fucking souls killer.
>implying
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>another dark souls clone
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>>386551510
Why are you comparing it to a multiplayer game then?
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>>386551215
In terms of game design why have permadeath in this game? How does it make it more enjoyable?

Generally increasing the fear of death is to add tension and to make people play more seriously. This is generally only valid if the rest of the game is well designed.
For example if you have a really deep combat system that you need to learn to not die making death more of a bigger deal is fine, but if your combat is shallow and boring adding permadeath is not good design since you're trying to make people pay attention to a shitty combat system.
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>>386550884

Nothing to do with age - I'm fucking old by /v standards and love myself a good perma-death game - and nothing wrong with either preferences.

The only real issue is how well is the mechanic is used.
From a design standpoint, I'm pretty much convinced there's no mechanic which, as bad as it may sound in a vacuum, cannot be justified and made to work to great results in the right gestalt.

Trouble here is that at first sight it doesn't look like the game knows why it wants perma-death, nor that the mechanical set up as a whole is made to justify and be enhanced by it. Say if every playthrough was somewhat different because of procedurally generated layers you have to intuit out to reach the reality of the experience hidden by the madness of the character. Your death is not her death. You're dealing with symbolic representations of a real inner conflict meshed with its actual realities.

That could work. But it doesn't look like what we got.
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>>386551609
Its a coop game with additional elements.
So basically its a Singleplayer game, with larger systems than thats normal.
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>>386551546
see
>>386551242 and >>386551334
and stop fucking memeing. This isnt a damn joke its a fanbase so vocal and batshit retarded thats keeping the medium from moving on and discovering new grounds and creating new things.

"soulslike" is a retarded term and meme genre.
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>>386551314
I'm playing it right now and the combat feels so satisfying it's amazing, I haven't felt like this about a game in a long time. It's understandable though, that people here just make up excuses to hate this game, it's nothing new, /v/ is shit taste central. Still, this game is a wasted potential because of the COD tier level design. It's literally just go straight forward and nothing else. All it's missing is a giant objective marker and a minimap. Such a shame.
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>>386545897
Is that the game with the caveman girl and the robot dinosaurs on the PS4 that nobody bought?
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>>386546232
but that's just obnoxious. dark souls lets you save your progress and at the very worst, grind if it's something you absolutely can't do
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>>386551753
Oh I didnt realise i was even out lol, im a dumb cunt. Might give it a pirate/buy I can deal with shit level design if killing stuff is fun.
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>>386545897
>No RPG elements
>Souls genere
Okay champ
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>>386551752
>This isnt a damn joke
Well it's pretty damn funny to me Anon.
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>>386551753
>hat people here just make up excuses to hate this gam

No NT games has played well, the stories they try to tell has always been edgy and several of their devs (Tameem in particular) are just downright unlikeable.

There are plenty of reasons to be highly sceptical of this game, especially when you start antagonistic threads like this where you claim this game has surpassed Dark Souls (which has a huge fanbase).
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>clunky mess
>that camera
>"art" design
>save gimmick that isn't part of the """gameplay"""
This looks like it should be a PS3 launch game.
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>>386548095
>Enslaved had bad combat
Nah man, it was nothing special sure, but it was far from this shit. Its still NT's best game, desu.
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>>386552234
>"""gameplay"""
well back to your interactive visual novels
at least you didnt mention SJWs and Jews which i happy about.
>>386552404
>What the fuck is wrong with having games be more like souls
You. This is what is wrong.
Being part of the problem yourself i understand you cant realise it.
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>muh permadeath
It's a ruse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM3sxy21j3k
Dude died 50 times on purpose to see if it actually happens. It doesn't.
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>>386552404
Dark Souls isn't exactly the epitome of fair game design.
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>>386551752


What the fuck is wrong with having games be more like souls you retard?
What's wrong with making games more difficult but fair?
What's wrong with punishing you for being a braindead casual idiot and forcing you to lose progress until you master it?
What's wrong with making games go back the to good old days where it was all about game play and level design and not custcenes with QTEs and story shoved down your throat every 10 seconds, with the gameplay completely barebones and neutered for the mainstream idiot??

Fuck off, the souls games are what we need in a time like this when games are so pitifully easy and can be beaten by holding the stick forward and getting infinite lives and regenerating health
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>>386546118
>It means it'll just get worse and worse overtime
that is wrong

t.psychotherapist
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>>386552593
>from software created difficulty
Fuck off.
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>>386545897
Looks more like Ass Creed than Souls tbqhw/u
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>>386552519
>SJW
Should be obvious. Main character is literally an edgy Aloy
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>>386552593
>What's wrong with making games more difficult but fair?
>What's wrong with punishing you for being a braindead casual idiot and forcing you to lose progress until you master it?
>What's wrong with making games go back the to good old days where it was all about game play and level design and not custcenes with QTEs and story shoved down your throat every 10 seconds, with the gameplay completely barebones and neutered for the mainstream idiot??
You are fucking retarded if you can't realize that you don't have to be a "soulsclone" or a "soulslike" to achieve any of those.
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>>386552682
Nowhere did I imply that you fucking idiot
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>>386545897
>Huge flash of light every time something but the player swings
Jesus christ what garbage
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>>386552689
Oh please. Since you've played the game and noticed.. Please explain to me why is it SJW. And don't go full retard speaking about how her face is designed. Give me in-game evidence. I'll wait.
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>>386551923
For me it is, I don't know what kind of games you like. Second boss especially felt so good to fight, I was genuinely so excited every time I pulled something new on him. But yea, the level design is a joke.
>>386551985
I didn't start this thread. I'm just sad that this will turn out into yet another good game this year that can't be discussed at all because of some faggy contrarian cunts. Just look at this fucking comment >>386552234. This guy is so far up his own ass, you just can't talk to someone like this.
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>>386545897
>ywn be an ugly 5/10 grill who gets kidnapped and has all her holes ruined by enormous dirty barbarians
gave me a boner senpai
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>>386552821
Look at screenshots?
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>>386552689
>Main character is literally an edgy Aloy
they were literally on a budget so they just got some girl in the office to be the model and everything.
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>>386549835
How the fuck are you qualified to talk about it then? You have no experience with it. Your opinion on difficulty doesn't mean shit since you're the type of person that gives up after 10 minutes without putting in any effort to understand or learn.
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>>386547335
>literally button mash
>muh deep and hardcore gaming experience
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>>386548361
The parts that get hit still react and wiggle in Dark Souls, here there's absolutely no reaction until they get stunned
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>>386552927
Which prove what?
Before you lose your shit i'll tell that the game is based in Viking mythology and culture.
Many Viking women were indeed fighters back in those days based on historic evidence. Also its a damn video game which mixes fantasy with real life and it still has a woman chasing after a dude whos dick she loves too much in order for her to go to hell ,now if thats not how loyal you want your bitch to be then idk whats wrong with you.
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>>386546232
You're probably baiting, but I think that's the reason they did it, it's a just a gimmick to appeal to the "lol git gud" crowd that Dark Souls generated, it's just a stupid choice.
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>>386546232
But does it have a dedicated eject button that if you don't use it deletes your save?
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>>386548252
I loved that game, but it was so fucking short
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>>386552876
You can discuss your bargain bin trash on reddit or the Steam forums, cuck.
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>>386553325
how long is it
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>>386553160
>Before you lose your shit i'll tell that the game is based in Viking mythology and culture.
Many Viking women were indeed fighters back in those days based on historic evidence.
Better be baiting.
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>>386553335
5/7 reply, would (You) again.
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>>386545897
>fem protag

"no"
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>>386545897
How the fuck was the player supposed to know they were going to get hit by the 2nd enemy?
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>>386553160
>based on historic evidence

clickbait articles isnt evidence.
women always were a livestock in every culture in the world.
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>>386552908
5/10
>anime meme reaction image
Merely a coincidence
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>>386546232
Just read an article that said it is actually a lie and it never deletes the auto save.

Regardless, I'm not playing this repetitive garbage. Combat looks abysmal.
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JahahHhBBbBBBbhahahahhahHahhhHahhahhahavavavbBBbahahahhahahhah
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>>386553595
it's pretty cool actually, you hear voices the entire time you play the game, the voices warn you if they are behind you or on the sides.
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>>386553682
good thing combat is barely in it since you will mostly jog around and maybe do some basic puzzles.
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>>386553160

you don't know anything about viking culture you fuckwit

they had a shortage of women thats why they went around kidnapping them, and the reason nords are so beautiful is because they only took the prettiest ones

the prettiest ones were not fighters
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>>386547083
lol go back to >>>/r/eddit xd
I agree with you, but discussing with /v/ makes no sense. They're stupid, they don't see anything beyond the game being hard and don't care about discussion, only braindead shitposting.
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>>386552983
Was she cosplaying Aloy that day?
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>>386547335
This falseflagging actually makes me mad.
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>>386553849
Then piss off back to plebbit, nigger.
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>>386553876
No but it turns out red-heads are aesthetically pleasing, who knew.
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>>386545897
only thing that webm does is make me wish for a Max Anarchy pc port to happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smWw7OX-z9A
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>>386553623
whatever helps you sleep at night
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ya but like, can I change my Weapons and Armor?

No = no care
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>>386554004
>you can no longer talk about a game that you like or else it's falseflagging and/or shilling

I fucking hate this place now
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>REEEEE someone dared to insult our sama

all those souls drones in full defence mode, Jesus
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>>386554120
They are more likely on suicide alert because their youtuber have fallen from grace,their general is shit and the games playerbase is shrinking.
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>>386553439

7 inches
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>>386554207
which youtuber
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>>386545897
What's it with the west and shitty, floaty BamHam combat? This webm just needs a combo meter and it'd be perfect
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>>386554253
all of them
I know of ENB whos a depressed cuck and OnlyAfro whos a sissy boy trying too hard to make memes
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>>386545897
>spend all of your money and marketing on modeling a girl's face and showing it off
>forget to make a game

yeah the animations look alright but this looks like a terrible game. At least he didn't self insert this time.
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>>386552634
Yeah alzheimer's never gets worse
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>>386546232
>>386545897
t.retarded nu-dark souls children that miss the entire point of dark souls i.e. non-linear level design not "WOAH... THIS IS THE DARK SOULS OF X XD"
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>>386545897
>a game for the wii almost a decade ago looks better to play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICPnjhy6SO0
Nice one Tamtam.
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is it already cracked?
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>>386553323
This game is so fucking great. I played it once in a game exposition. You really feel like a pilot.
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>>386554547
nvm its on GOG
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>>386550678
Wait is that actually in dark souls or some kind of mod?
I've never seen that happen before. But then, I've never been a shieldshitter
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In what world is Dragon's Dogma a Dark Souls clone? The only similarities are superficial.
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>>386554483
it looks like shit in most aspects
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I can already tell from that short webm that it'll have none of the same charm that defined the (good) souls games.
Step your shit up, low standards fag.
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>>386550678
its fake
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>>386547978
Looks more like bloodborne desu.
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>>386545897

>actual hitboxes

it's already better than Dark Souls or Bloodborne, lol.
I don't get the consoleplebs.
That genre is shit, as a whole
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Dark Souls invented Punch-Out combat.
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>>386554938

shhh, let have them have it, it's the only thing have left
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>>386545897
>shoulder camera
its dogshit, already ruined god of war this year alone
>>
this is literally just infinity blade, which came out in 2010
which itself was just super punchout with swords
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The fuck is this face?
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>>386552593
>What's wrong with making games go back the to good old days where it was all about game play and level design and not custcenes with QTEs and story shoved down your throat every 10 seconds, with the gameplay completely barebones and neutered for the mainstream idiot??

Don't shit yourself, Dark Souls places a HEAVY emphasis on aesthetics, atmosphere and storytelling too. It does so in a novel way but it's not the saviour of the good old days where people cared more about gameplay than about any of all that "fluff" that plagues modern day video games to the point where the actual gameplay becomes a side attraction.
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>>386547335
>that shit
>fluid
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>>386549293
>SMT IV - The Dark Souls of Persona games
This is wrong on so many fucking levels.
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>>386545897
>more than a decade later and God Hand is the only action game that managed to make shoulder camera for combat workable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaGb7hjzKQ
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>>386550000
>no one even cares
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>>386555098
nice reverse cone face
ayy/10
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>>386545897
This is For Honor for singleplayer more than anything.
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>>386555098
>when you know he came inside and you can get him for rape
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>>386554110
It's about that, you can tell that post is falseflagging because how fake it reads and because it's not even true.
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>>386545897
>redefined by the west
>that webm
lol, you tried
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>>386554483
>>386555232
holy shit the delusion
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>>386545897
Looks a lot more responsive than the clunky souls games
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This game looks so clunky and half assed I'm actually surprised it's made by a western company.
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>>386554938
F-Fuck you! I-It was shockwaves....I swear it! ;_;
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>>386545897
>enjoy the designs of the viking enemies
>gameplay looks a bit simple though

I mean it's half the price of a normal game right? I dunno
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>>386555416
nice
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I do not normally play Ninja Theory games because I am not a faggot.
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>fixed over the shoulder camera
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>>386555743
But you play jap games, so you are a fag either way
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>>386555632
It's a $30 game made by NT, and if you die you have to start from the beginning again.

I'm guessing the game is about 1-2 hours long, not including restarts. It looks like a tech demo. It seems like they spent all their money on graphics and modeling and forgot to make a game.
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>>386555512
Enjoy your garbage game NTigger.
At least bother to show something even remotely interesting than some bitch slapping and getting slapped by enemies that are as passive as Devil May Cry 4 enemies.
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>>386555810
>and if you die you have to start from the beginning again.
End this fucking meme. It's already debunked.
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>>386547854

Dragon's Dogma is nothing like Dark Souls. The only things they share in common is a third person perspective, dungeons, and being made by Japs.
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>>386545897
>>386547335

>beating Soulsborne
>still no merihari after all these years
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I like dodge based combat, but this looks pretty ugly (as far as visuals go) and the pacing and animations look absolutely retarded.
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>>386545897
looks retarted . two enemies one doesnt gank. takes 50+ hits to kill the wierdos. over telegraphing enemies. overly stylish sword attacks so the casuals autistic adhd brain doesnt get bored.

>western gaming
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>>386548252
What is this game? I assumed it was a shitty TPS because it looked like your typical soulless sci-fi trash.
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>>386546869
Literally mcfucking crucify yourself.
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>>386555939
ok fine, a 3 hour game
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>>386555790
t. Tameem
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>>386556069
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>>386555232
And yet it rightfully gets a much deserved 3.0 out of 10 on IGN :^)
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>>386555790
I do not normally avoid games based solely on their country of origin because I am not a faggot.
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>>386545897
looks like garbage, I don't even like dark souls that much.
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>>386556069
It was supposed to be sci fi dark souls in space. It seems like it turned out to be just shit
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>>386556271
No I know it's The Surge. I saw it on Amazon months ago, hence why I thought it was a shitty multiplayer TPS.
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>>386555790
Ninja Theory is literally a company full of weeaboos.
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>>386545897
Yes, I expect great things from Tameem.
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>>386545897
>Batman gameplay
>souls gameplay
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Anybody wanna post what game this is?
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>>386546232
>>386547335

>Game glitches
>Die
>lose all progress
>"""""""""""""""good feature""""""""""""
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>>386556484
Hellblade
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>>386554483
Henry was a lot of fun to fight but he was such a ridiculous damage sponge on Bitter.
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>>386556445
>over the shoulder 3rd person fighting

>batman gameplay
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>>386556484
Demonic sharp shaft
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>>386556484
Satan's home Sword
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>>386545897
god that looks fucking awful
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>>386545897
>>386546232
>>386547335
Watch out Tameem, you don't want to anger Todd. You know he's watching.
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>>386546364
shitty normalfag /tv/ meme
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>>386545897
It's hilarious how much her sword swipes look like Code Vein's. And that's not a good thing.
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OwO
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>>386547854
You are very stupid and I hope you don't have any responsibility in real life.
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>>386550445
>Dark Souls didn't invent the "go back to where you died to get your stuff back" meme

What game did though? And don't say Demon's Souls.
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>>386550289
>quits at the tutorial
>Probably didn't read any of the tutorial notes
>Probably fought the boss with the BROKE sword hilt because he didn't read the notes
>quits because he's a retard
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>>386546232
>>386546118
Sounds like Risk of Rain + Dark Souls
Neat.
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>>386550678
that actually happens lol to everyone saying it doesn't. git poise boys.
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>>386547083
I think you made a great point anon and that you explained it well
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>>386546232
It actually doesn't, Ninja Theory lied. Again.
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>>386557479
>Risk of Rain + Dark Souls
So, pixelised indieshit + complete lack of polish or testing? Neat.
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>>386545897
IT'S JUST LIKE DARK SOULS!!
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>>386553160
>1 tomb
>female skeleton with weapons and wealth
>bones well preserved, little damage
>scholarly consensus is symbolic gesture by burying male status items with a woman
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>>386545897
So can we at least agree that souls games are just challenging and not the hardest thing ever? I mean if dsp can beat the game I dont see how you could consider it to be hard as the fans want you to believe it.
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>>386546512
>make people copy their save files
or set write protection on them.
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>>386558193
I can agree that dark souls is a mediocre game that only sells because people think it's le hard.
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>>386558124
It's not. The animations don't look like shit, and hitstop is properly implemented.
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>>386550274
Interesting point
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>>386558193
Namco said it was hardcore, and I'd sooner trust Namco than some random schmuck on the internet like you.
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Is this game really only 15gb? What up with that? Just like The Surge is only like 5gb.
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>>386549293
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>>386558581
You'd sooner trust what a company tells you than actually see for yourself? What a good goy.
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>>386545897
>give criticism
>"LOL SOULSDRONE DEFENSE FORCE"
>haven't even played since 2
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>>386545897
>regenerating health

Nah
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>>386548537
Thank you for being the first post to state the name of the game
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>>386558620
Games are only 50GB now because of uncompressed textures and audio. Crysis 3 still looks better than most games today and it's only 14GB.
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>>386547335
So open shilling is allowed now? Jesus christ, this place is dead
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>>386550023

Different anon here, but I don't get your comparison of hollow knight to dark souls. It looks, feels, and plays entirely like a metroidvania game because it's based on that genre. What is it taking from Dark Souls?
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>>386558581
Well no shit, marketing understands that most people arent humble and will use the game as some badge of honor, despite the fact that most shitty youtubers can somehow make it through the game. This is what makes the fanbase so insufferable because they hold a game with reasonable challenge to high standard. Despite its strengths coming more from the atmosphere and the amount of different methods of play it offers.
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>>386559371
Or maybe you're just butthurt because you got stuck on the Asylum Demon and can't "use the game as some badge of honor" yourself.
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>>386559570
Is this post meant to be ironic?
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>>386559656
The only irony here is your skill at video games.
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>>386559731
Is that a yes?
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>>386559785
Belittling people for touting their skill at vidya while being a shitter yourself sounds pretty ironic.
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>>386559932
Yes, that would be ironic if I was actually a shitter, but you're merely assuming I am because you're angry at having your skill questioned. Actually I'm surprised you're putting so much effort into this instead of just using the git gud meme.
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>>386559570
>if you think Dark Souls isn't that hard then you're actually really bad at the game
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>>386545897
not really, looks like a really quick-pace and flashy dungeon crawler style
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>>386545897
looks like shit

NEXT
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>>386559570
>this is what soulsbabbies actually believe.
I gotta thank you for proving my point though.
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>>386546232
Well judging by that webm that isn't much of a threat.
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>>386547854
how can nioh be a souls clone when it shits all over souls combat?
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It's another "looks pretty, combat and mechanics are shit" game again.
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>>386560152
99.9% people who think Dark Souls is bad are bad themselves. This is a fact. It's been proven time and time again.
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>>386560796
but it's undeniable that dark souls 2 and 3 are bad games
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>>386560918
2 is literal trash, but 3 is a masterpiece.
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>>386545897

Is this at 1/4th speed?
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>>386560989
they're both trash

1, BB and DeS are the only good ones
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>>386561034
BB is nowhere as hardcore as DaS, and DeS, while good, is only a prototype. It doesn't even have half the lore DaS does.
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>>386561086
>"muh lore"
>unironically using "hardcore" as a standard
it's no wonder you like dark souls 3
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>>386545897
What game?
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>>386561086
>hardcore
>lore
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>>386549350
Reddit spacing is between the reply quote and text, not paragraphs.
Those guys are summerfags.
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>>386546232
this is a meme btw
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>>386561771
So is the difficulty of Dark Souls. What's your point?
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>>386545897
This is more of a hack'n'slash than it is a soulslike.
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>Jim Sterling gave it a 1/10
Maybe I should actually try this out.
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>>386554110
I hope this person either seeks out professional help or is laughed at publicly about this for the rest of xir life. Either would be fine.
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>>386562313
He took the review down but I believe he was butthurt over a gamebreaking bug. Basically the same as IGN giving Prey a 4 due to a bug.
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>>386547083
ignore the haters
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>several indie games in the past two years have used the majority of Dark Souls' mechanics
>some games are literally side-scrolling or top-down versions of Dark Souls, with minimal changes
What do you think this will do to the legacy of DaS in the long run? Will this make the original more respected, or will people just get sick of the design?
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>>386557359
Diablo?
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>>386545897
epin troll 4/10
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>>386546050
this is over the hip actually and it looks great
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Games journalist on twitter describing the game as "impactful" and "important".

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