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P5D AND P3D Confirmed Non-Canon

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Persona 3 and 5 Dancing confirmed non canon, there will be a new mode replacing story mode.

more details too in this interview

http://personacentral.com/persona-3-persona-5-dancing-game-new-famitsu-information-story-mode-replacement/
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door kun isn't going anywhere
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door kun fags on suicide watch
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FOREVER A DOOR
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>>386542603

Was anyone expecting otherwise with P3? I mean he's protecting the world from apathy and certain death. You can't sequel that unless Elizabeth stars.
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>>386542603
at least door won't be revived through the magic of dance
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>Door-Kun cucked

SLAM'D
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>>386542603
>non-canon
So you're saying there's a chance?
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>>386542603
>Yet DAN was canon
What the fuck is this company doing?
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>>386545237
They need a model to reuse for the HD remake of P3 after all
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>>386547368
Stop filling me with these hopes: it's not happening and I accepted it
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>>386543885
P4D wasn't a sequel, it was placed before the epilogue

P3D could just be set at some point during the events of the game.

P5 makes this shit easy as hell with the time skips near the end.
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>>386548959
No, P4D takes place after the epilogue.
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This is fucking phone game tier
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>>386542603
There's no reason to buy these frankly below average quality rhythm games without the corny story. The gameplay is trash and the song selections are limited.
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>>386549152
You sure? The cast got new designs for the epilogue but 4D uses their main game designs.
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>>386546623
I can understand why they won't make P3 DAN cannon, but why not 5? They have a completely clean slate to work off of
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>>386549382
Have you played the game? It's explained pretty early on.
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>>386549507
>implying I own a Vita
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>Non canon

Since they finally took that canon stick out of their asses that means Persona 1 and 2 characters showing up in fighting games and PQ2 has a chance right?
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>>386549568
well why do you talk about games you're completely clueless about? oh, right, this is /v/.
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>>386549382
I forget when in the game, but it uses the golden epilogue costumes, and specifically mentions that it's been some years since inaba. The gang isn't even in the main game designs anyway, it's redesigns of their old costumes to be more dance-themed
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>>386543885
P3fags are really really dumb. They go as far as wanting to replace Igor with MC.
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>>386549470
They don't want to put in effort to make a story
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>>386549361
The Persona soundtracks are so fucking fantastic that a Rhythm game with them is a godsend. The gameplay's fine too.
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>>386549674
Point is it wouldn't be hard to make a P3 spinoff canon, just like they did with PQ.

It's probably better that a rhythm game isn't canon, though.
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So do these come out at the same time? Will there be a dual pack?
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>>386549924
I'm not saying it would, but I don't see what that has to do with trying to pass off misinformation as fact.
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>these aren't canon
>PQ is despite them pulling the "everyone's memories were erased and no one remembers it" ending
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>>386549823
I don't mean to insult Atlus genius masters of story telling, but if they think writing "and then izanagi-no-okami came out with an electric guitar and banished the evil demon god" requires more effort than a couple days, than I don't know what the hell to expect from p3 and p5 dan. It's just fanservice
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>>386542603
Is just not set before persona 3 ending?
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>>386550306
there's only so many times you can pull characters out of the story for hijinks they conveniently won't remember before it starts to get ridiculous.
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>>386550435
When would there have been enough time for them to break out into dance offs? Why are they even dancing? At least with P4D, they were dancing to get rid of shadows in the shadow world, but the P3/5D trailer just shows them around town dancing with actual people around.
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>>386550005
Fuckin' I was wrong, big deal

How am I gonna know it's after the epilogue when Rise's got her main game twin tails, Kanji's back to being blond, and both Chie and Nanako have short hair again

To be honest, even if it's explicitly stated in-game, I don't fucking believe it
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>>386550682
Is not there whole weeks timeskips?
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>>386542603
I don't think you can extrapolate that both of the games aren't canon from that just because they said that they're replacing the story mode with a different mode. In the same interview they said "Deep and serious stories will develop through these games, but we want to put in crazy elements and colorful elements that cannot be done in the main story" which implies that they're still going to work on an interesting story for the game even if there isn't a story mode.

I think the interview is really vague and we can't say either way just yet.
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>>386550765
please stop
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>>386550905
But why? They entered a dancing contest during that time, then proceeded to forget about it in the middle of the game?
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>>386549470

how else would they put in pancakes?
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>>386550765
The game literally explains why they look like that and it makes sense in the context of the plot. Kanji even says it's the last time he's ever going to dye his hair again.
>I was wrong
You were wrong about something that would have taken 5 seconds of Google to fact check and you deserve to be called out for being a dumbass who pretends to know shit about games he knows nothing about.
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Did people really expect it to be canon?
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>>386551040
>>386551265
So did he dye it back just to dance?

I'm not expecting a rhythm game to have a brilliant story, but this is just silly
Why even bother making it a sequel
Or canon at all

If you intend to regress the character designs
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>>386551326
>kept you waiting
I doubt anyone was waiting for a non canon metafiction meme game.
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>>386551374
Their producer wanted them to look like they did in high school because that's the theme of their performance.
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>>386551374
Are you retarded or just pretending?
Imagine someone as dorky looking as nuKanji dancing.
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>>386551496
Then why not set it during the main game when they're in high school

This isn't hard Atlus
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>>386551642
because it's Rise's comeback performance and Rise does not get back into showbiz during P4
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>>386551642
Because there's a serial killer on the loose? holy hell man it isn't rocket science
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>>386551642
>didn't play p4 either
/v/ incarnate.
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>>386543885
Considering Atlus's obsession with milking nu-Persona for every cent it's worth, I'm always afraid they'll bring back Door Jesus just for the sake of capitalism. Glad they're not going down that road just yet
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>>386542603
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>>386551770
They didn't exactly devote all their time to catching the killer y'know
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>>386549679
>years
six months after P4 ended, Fall 2012
There is also an "epilogue"that is actually a prologue set between the epilogue of P4G and beginning of P4D's story mode
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>>386551496
The producer at least should've put a reason in the story mode.

like, for example, Rise convinced Kanji to dye his hair again to stand out more during the Dance Festival
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>>386542603
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THEY SAID HE WAS BACK, FUCKING HACKS
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>>386550682
What if
they find out they can cure Apathy Syndrome by having a massive dance-off
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>>386552401
>p4 gets 4 canon spinoffs
>p3/5 get non canon shit
FeMC confirmed
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>>386552017
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>>386552529
Honestly that idea isn't even stupid. In one of Liz's quests you cure a girl with Apathy Syndrome by giving her a bunch of sodas
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>>386552604
Yeah she confirmed just like how in Persona Q she was also........Oh wait
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>>386552975
Japanese crime investigation

No worries, citizen, this is all according to protocol.
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>>386552529
Its how Chad Narukami and his harem beat the shadows In DAN, so I can see that
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Thank goodness
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>>386552529
>>386553260

>Reviving your dead MC in a spin-off game by having the cast of Persona 3 dance to Kimi no Kioku or Burn My Dread to cure global sadness

The fallout would have been hilarious.
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Soon Joker will get to dance ballet like he was born to!
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>>386553332
pq is canon, of course she wouldn't be in it
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>>386553384
They literally spend a month doing literally nothing but non stop dance training all day every day. Nigga, how they gonna catch a murderer doing that?
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>>386553953
And how many vacations, hangouts, holidays, and other miscellaneous activities did they do while a murderer was at large?

At least with DAN they're dancing to defeat Shadows
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>>386554401
A MONTH. A LITERAL MONTH. Are you actually, unironically trying to tell me that them taking a whole month off is logical in any way, shape, or form?
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>>386554545
Nigga they took the better part of a year to catch the one killer in a small, quiet town in the boondocks while also having magic powers

And the killer happened to be an acquaintance of the team leader
Who was in the care of a detective

You can't tell me they were giving it their all
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>>386554920
I'm starting to think you either haven't played the game, or are completely lack even the most basic of critical thinking skills.
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>>386555061
It's clear he is just shitposting to hide his embarrassment.
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>>386552319
That is the reason in the story mode. The producer of rise's dance festival wanted them to look like they were in high school still.
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>>386555061
Persona 4 is just a high school fantasy but also there's a killer because the game's gotta have a villain somehow

You even recruit a so-called detective prince and from that point it STILL takes months to catch Adachi, whose motive stems from being useless at everything except being an elusive serial killer apparently
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>>386555873
Alright, seems like >>386555497 was correct
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>>386555959
How exactly did they not waste a fuckload of time?
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>>386542809
emo teen shoots himself on a rooftop
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>>386556104
Last (You), bitchboy
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>>386556193
Could've proven me wrong at any point my friend

You either chose not to, or simply couldn't
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>Wanting another abomination that was DAN story

What is wrong with you all?
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If P3P songs get in, I'm sold. I just want to play in the beat of I'm not a Princess or Time
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Just give me some side characters. I'll pay a ridiculous amount of money to dance as Tae and Kawakami.
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>>386551880
Are you some of the hipsters that believe smt is better than persona?
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>>386542603
>There will be completely new songs.
This is most important. I want more from Lyn. She's amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMl7oaByRyM
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>Composer Ryota Koduka: “Deep and serious stories will develop through these games, but we want to put in crazy elements and colorful elements that cannot be done in the main story.”

So basically these are going to turn into their own separate stories at some point
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>>386556352
I find it extremely humerus that the P4 cast has killed a God by busting sick dance moves.
That's about it.
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>>386557258
Sounds like it'll be musical.
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>>386556352
It was fun if you don't take it seriously.
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>>386557710
I would unironically love that.
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>>386556672
>Love Wiping All Out
>put it on as ringtone
>Been my ringtone ever since P3P came out
>but this also killed the song for me, as every time I hear the beginning, I get the same reaction as if someone is calling me.

Putting a song I like as ringtone was a mistake.
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>>386555873
In p4 there's actually a reason for them to go to school.
Meanwhile in P3 one of your party members owns the freaking school.
>party member is too tired to explore Tartarus but not to go to school
>you can't go to Tartarus because you have to study for the exams lol
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>>386542603
Thank god, I wouldn't be able to handle some asinine reason for P3D to occur during the plot of P3.
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>>386558332
To be fair, they do address that. Mitsuru is always the one telling you to take your studies seriously. IIRC, they literally asked her at one point if they could skip the exams.
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Reminder that this dance isn't canon.
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>>386558606
How is Mitsuru being a retard a good excuse for hem not to put their all n exploring Tartarus and defeating the shadows?
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>>386558878
How is that her being a retard? Sure, the shadows are important, but so is school, especially in Japan. If they just skipped all that stuff, they'd be developmentally stunted and unprepared to live the rest of their lives.
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>>386558664
As long as I get to see Joker doing ballet I don't care.
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>>386556947
It's not a belief, it's fact.
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>>386559016
>people into coffins
>apathy syndrome
>some wander into Tartarsauce
>only SEES could help them

>b-but school!
>you don't want to end developmentally stunted
>let's ignore the fact that I'm filthy rich and money fixes everything
Mitsuru is fucking retarded. The only person that actually needs to go to school is MC and only because of the slink bonuses. School in P3 doesn't make sense.
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>>386559793
Obviously the real reason they have to attend school is because that's what the game is about. As far as excuses made to justify game mechanics goes, that one is pretty fucking solid. That's not unreasonable at all.
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>>386560042
>solid
It's pretty fucking dumb.

They didn't know shit about Tartarus or how the shadows worked(this is pretty evident in the game). It's not logical at all to just ignore them to go to school.

What if Tartarus had a timer? Like not clearing the tower in a month or two would trigger a shadow breakout? It all worked out in the end because it's a fucking video game, but Mitsuru's decision isn't logical at all.
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>>386560693
>game is based around timelimit and 2 disctinct phases
>one is doing stuff in the real world
>second is exploring a dungeon
>NAH MAN IT'S DUMB AND NOT REALISTIC
Shit niggah, it's a game based around very specific mechanic. You wouldn't even have Persona games if people thought like you.
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I've been saying from the start that they should be non-canon retellings of their original stories with dancing, I hope this is the direction they take this now that them being non-canon is confirmed
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>>386560693
What about the fact that they can literally only go to Tartarus at midnight? It's not like they can skip going to school and go to Tartarus instead.
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>>386561167
>this character is justified
>it's not
>wah wah game mechanics
You do know that going to school makes sense in 4, right?
P3 is the only game where one just has to accept the fact that going to school doesn't make sense and move on.
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>>386561285
Yeah, this would be perfect
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>>386561285
>P3DAN is a retelling of the story through Interpretative Dance.
Kek.
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>>386561589
It does make sense tho, you're just nitpicking. I've literally never heard this criticism before, and the game has been out for 11 years.
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>>386561497
What about the fact that they complain about being too tired to go to Tartarus yet still decide to go to school the next day? Or the fact that they all decide to ignore Tartarus because of exams?
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>>386561625
>>386561710
Imagine a Nyx dance off with each arcana being a different song
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>expecting a fucking dancing game to be canon

you getting more stupid by day it seems.
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>>386561779
Days with exams and being too tired make up maybe like 5% of all the days in the game. That's not a strong enough reason.
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>>386561719
>why do they have to go to school
>they just have to!
>nitpicking
Jesus christ.
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I just want to see her dance.
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>>386557710
I fucking hope it's a musical retelling of the games' stories.

Japan fucking loves stage plays, I won't be surprised if they love musical ones as well.
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>>386557710
That would be cool as fuck. Dance-off against Nyx or Shido would be fucking amazing.
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>>386561848
except with Persona it has fucking prescient thanks to DAN
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>>386561869
>they just have to!
I didn't say that tho, you little shit. They have to because it's an important part of growing up and learning the skills to make you a productive member of society. You are literally nitpicking.
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>>386542603
Good

Why the fuck do people want Minato to be revived? It would retroactively ruin Persona 3.
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>>386561806
Fuck, that'd actually be a 10/10 for a dancing game.
Each track changes till it becomes a remix of Burn My Dread.
Burn My Dread Under The Moon.
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>>386561869
>>386562031
Damnit, you tilted me so hard I posted the wrong pic
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>>386561851
What does that have to do with anything?
I'm discussing that going to school on their situation isn't logical. What if a shadow shows up when they are too tired or taking a test? They don't know shit about Tartarus or the shadows, and have no obligation to attend school.
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>>386562007
Fuuka is not for lewd
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>>386561902
Joker's Ballet will be the best close second would be perhaps Yusuke doing some Genbu shit.
Maybe Ryuji going full moshpit.
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>>386562081
>Arcana is means of which all is revealed
>Death Arcana flashes as song transitions to a mix of Battle for Everyone's Souls
>Finish the song as camera pans up to the moon as it reveals Nyx's true body
>Door-kun moon walks backwards and begins to fly up to the moon like in the original
>Burn my Dread kicks in
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>>386562031
Don't you think saving world ending or not being murdered by a shadow is a tad more important than that? Especially when they are the only people who can do something about the shadow issue.
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>>386542603
Wait, where's the part where it says the games will be non canon
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>>386561285
So its Persona 3 the musical?
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>>386562416
They can fucking do both tho. Them going to school barely interferes with Tartarus, if even at all. I'm starting to think you're just baiting at this point.
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I know they choreographed each dance specifically for the character but I kind of hope games would allow us to just use any character we want in the stage.
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>>386562360
>>Door-kun moon walks backwards and begins to fly up to the moon like in the original
Fuck, I can see it. This needs to be what happens.
God, just thinking of Door vs. Giant Egg makes me laugh. Gear seal is Door doing the splits perfectly after a drop.
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>>386562572
Oh god. Now I wish they would include this in the game for Futaba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9XwlDo0IAM
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>>386562561
They didn't know that, fuck. They didn't know shit about anything until later in the game so going to school doesn't make sense, especially if they will later complain about being too tired.
I'm certain you are only saying shit makes sense because it's okay when P3 does it.
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>>386562774
I know it's cool to hate on the answer but additionally
>Heartfelt Cry as DLC or some
>Aegis dance off with all other party members in order of how their boss fights happen
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>>386563039
>Tap dancing Futaba.
Kek.
Do you have all the dancers?
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Is it really not going to be cannon? The statement in that article just talk about how a new mode replaces story mode and that they want to do things that could not be in the main story.

I feel like there's room for interpret these comments in other was, at least until the game actually comes or we get direct statements using the words canon or not-canon
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>>386563278
>I'm certain you are only saying shit makes sense because it's okay when P3 does it.
I love P3, but it's my least favorite of the 3 persona games, so no. And while they didn't know everything about Tartarus, they knew enough to realize that they didn't have to be on high alert every single day.
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>>386563307
Kek, dance with Shadow Door.
I'd be down for all this, honestly.
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>>386563497
Atlus slapped the word canon on PQ, despite it not changing or adding anything, for the sole reason so that it sells well. They'll likely do the same here
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>>386563497
Thing is, that really shouldn't matter since it's supposed to be fun.
I mean, why does a spin-off done for fun have to have cannonically happened? Because f sick dance moves? Nah.

Besides, it's a new mode to replace story so it could be "arcade" or "mission" for the sake of progression. Even Elite Beat Agents did so.
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WHY
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I really hope they do a Reincarnation: Persona 5 album. I'm excited to see how they remix all the songs.
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>>386549470
Persona series truly has the best detectives
Needs Katsuya tho
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>>386563968
Because you touch yourself at night?
Why not anon?

>>386564017
But the soundtrack is already one of the best.
How would they redo it to make it better?
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>>386550472
The number is zero. There's literally no reason for these not to be canon if they've allowed themselves at least once to use fucking memory wipes.
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>>386563039
Likewise anon, I'll riot if she doesn't get a two-dancing routine in the game.
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>>386564160
P3 and P4's soundtracks are also phenomenal, and they remixed those super well. Never doubt Meguro, he always finds a way.
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>>386553260
>Honestly that idea isn't even stupid.
>
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>>386564097
Better?
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>>386564017
You're gonna FEEL DAT JAZZ.
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>>386564160
because i want makoto dancing to be canon ;(
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>>386564192
To keep Yu as the alpha protagonist. Atlus is betting everything on him.
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>>386565186
Robots can't dance.
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>>386565263
you got me there
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>>386565263
Aigis can
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>>386565436
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>>386564307
Alrighty anon.
I'll take your word for it.

>>386564541
I's gon be gud.

>>386565186
Well now everybody is dancing.
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>>386565263
If Fuuka can dance then everyone and their mother can dance.
Even Koromaru.
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>>386565506
If you haven't heard Reincarnation: P3 or P4, you definitely should. They're great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC2srQU5Xsk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUa2FtTyH54
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>>386565702
What if Fuuka isn't included tho
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>>386565702
I can't wait to see Fuuka in HD 1080P!
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>>386566178
That would be kinda funny desu
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>>386566178
I would be a little upset
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If these two are DLC in P5D I expect them to do this.
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>>386566179
What would her dancing style be tho? I can't think of anything
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is this like JUST dance? or more like project miku

i wish it was just persona songs being added to DDR, but DDR is kill outside of japan
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>P5D AND P3D Confirmed Non-Canon
God is good.
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>>386566178
>fuuka is only the choreographer
Please. I'd bully fuukafag for the years to come.
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>>386566674
She'll probably do something similar to yukiko, but with a smaller form and more shuffling
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>>386566674
>Fuuka dancing style.
Ever seen belly dancing? That, but a little less flirtatious.

>>386566765
More like the latter.
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>On a 2nd playthrough for P5
>Started Iwai's S. Link for the first time

Yo, this crime shit sounds awesome.
>>
But will we get the sexy older women doing cute and provocative dances? Asking for a friend. That friend is my dick.
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>>386566910
Yukiko was ballet right?

>>386566929
I guess I could accept that, I just have a hard time imagining Fuuka dancing
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>>386567202
Your friend is into used goods? You should get a better friend.
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>>386567320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1NxmjKoqQk
Mixture of Ballet and Geisha, Fuuka would probably do something more modern that shows the same ellegence but with more delicate movements, something akin to a waltz if it's that's not taken by Mitsuru
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>>386567574
>Not liking experienced and sexually mature older women.
You have to be 18yrs or older to post on 4chan.
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>>386567320
Fuuka would go for any dance with simple moves that appear graceful so as the other anon it could also be some solo variation of a waltz, but I do think belly dancing would be a good fit for her.
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>>386567937
Of course I don't. I'm no filthy normalfag.
>>>/r/eddit
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>>386567870
Slow waltz does seem fitting for Fuuka, but Mitsuru being the most "high class" person there makes me wonder what she would get in that case.

>>386568280
Isn't belly dancing heavily sensual?
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>>386568983
>Isn't belly dancing heavily sensual?
It depends on the style of it that's being used. Raqus Baraquite (or whatever) is incredibly sensual and flirtatious but there are style that are very conservative, involving little hip or leg movement.
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>>386568983
Mitsuru is high class, but she's also commanding, so if Fuuka was a slow formal waltz I think Mitsuru could be more lively high class, some mixture of Tango, Viennese Waltz, and maybe even Salsa
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>>386569764
Tango is a more likely one of those truthfully.
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>>386569326
Interesting, I guess something more cutesy would work for her instead of sensual.

>>386569764
Mitsuru dancing Tango would be amusing
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>>386545237
She's be in P5 version
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>>386571201
*She'll
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>>386571201
>Joker can even steal what is non-canon.
This is his playground.
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>>386571201
>tfw she steals all of joker's women
It would be fun to wqtch.
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>>386549682
I'm a P3fag and it's more that I'm really scared of Atlus' desire to milk things than anything else. Something like them bringing Minato back isn't what I'm asking for, it's what I'm expecting Atlus to eventually do.
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>>386571890
>Atlus ignores P3 for ages
>people won't shut up about MC making a comeback
>Atlus finally caves in and makes a new P3 spinoff
>geez why can't Atlus stop milking things
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>>386573651
>>Atlus ignores P3 for ages
They haven't been ignoring it for ages, most of it's milking just didn't get released outside of Japan.

Also the point is that Persona's a way bigger cashcow for them now than it was back then, you know that.
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>>386573883
>phone games
Wow!
I'm just shitposting to give the thread ome last bumb. You know that.
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