Comfy FFX thread

>>386542539
I like it but the game could be loads better.
They also botched the sequels.

>>386542539
X and X-2 are among my favorites, though the writing in both was weak at points.
Worst boss is Yunalesca.

>>386542624
Didn't delve into any of the side activities/quests but I heard some of them were pretty tedious. Are there any other glaring issues you have with it?
And I've heard bad things about X-2. I'll play it some time out of morbid curiosity (bought the PS4 remaster so I may as well) but I don't really see how the story could continue in a way that isn't forced.

Never did the sidequests in the original and actually doing them in the remaster kind of killed the magic. They were pretty boring and now I one shot everything except the super bosses.

>>386542972
She was a pain, but I personally couldn't stand any of the Seymour fights beyond the first one. They just seemed unnecessary. And from what I can tell from my limited experience with the franchise, the writing doesn't seem to be the strongest in any of the games, so I kind of just accepted the occasional cringe inducing moment.

>>386543184
This is why I didn't bother doing them before finishing the game. I might go back and check out some stuff I skipped past, but I didn't want to completely destroy every boss without trying on my first play through.

>>386542539
Fuck, now you got me listening to the Otherworld track.

>>386543061
X-2's only real problem is that it's pretty much impossible to 100% (and get the Perfect ending) without a guide.

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Don't mind me, just posting the 2nd comfiest track in the entire series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2SHDFt8pSc

>>386543747
Honestly, Spira in general is pretty comfy, not counting Sin destroying shit.

>Jecht ending up in Spira still just doesn't make sense.

>>386545365
The aeons were just playing the long con, man. Send one memory to become Sin then send the memory's son to kill him. It wouldn't work if Sin was just some random dude.

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>>386543989
>tfw you will never doze off to the sound of waterfalls on a rock facing a lagoon on Besaid Island and take a scenic walk back to the village afterwards.

>>386545596
Who was Sin, prior to Jecht?

>>386543747

OK what's the first? Fisherman's Horizon?

>>386542539
X is the turning point where FF went to shit though... last playable FF is IX.

>>386545895
Alright, might I ask why you feel as such?

>>386545895
I'll disagree. I'd say X is the last playable one.

It featured the core elements of the franchise, while really refining the Turn-Based combat.

The only thing that it was missing, was an 'overworld' which I think they did a decent job replicating with the world map once you unlocked the airship.

The pre-determined roles, with branching skill trees to expand and develop new roles for characters was a great design, even if it didn't have a traditional level system.

>>386542539
Hey, I only just started getting into FF myself. Started with X and plan to keep going until FFXV, after which I will likely go all the way back to FFVI.

Just got out of Macarena Woods, how far into the game am I? I'd assume halfway.

Really enjoying it so far in spite of dated jank.

>>386542539
Kid doesn't like rikku

>>386545895
Well I liked 10 more than 7, so I'd disagree.

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>>386542539
>Rikku
>Unlikeable
>In X

What's wrong with you?

>>386546339
I think half way seems about right.

playing this now on my vita. i got the master sphere grid, any standout builds for characters?

>implying it matters in a game easy as X

>>386546527
She was annoying and pretty shit in battles (unless I wasn't using her correctly).

>>386542539
>not liking rikku
Son, you might be gay

>>386546634
I'd still smash, would just knock her out first so she didn't talk.

>>386546339
I'd say it's closer to a quarter of the way.

The game really starts to come together at that point though. No where but up, good luck on making it to Zanarkand.

>>386546713
Third of the way at the very least.

>>386546632
Stealing valuable items, and curing mass poison with a mass heal, that's all she was good for.

Get her something that boosts med items, and she's a star player.

>>386543747
Guadosalam made me fall asleep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmcCd1eCJq4

>>386546632
>insta-kills machina
>battle items are super good, especially when you don't have access to your whole party
>Overdrive wrecks shit
>high agility giving her more turns and better evasion

She's literally the most useful and versatile party member.

>>386546562
>>386546713
Thanks!

Chasing butterflies was very cute.

>>386546813
>>386546989
Maybe I was using her wrong then. My bad.

>>386546989
Not to mention that by end game + a lil grinding for arena battles, she can attack 30 times before the boss can

Just did the Arena and it was boring af. Maxing all my stats to 255 for this was a mistake. Imma be like this guy and not bother next time. >>386543184

>>386542539
It definitely has the best battle system, I'll give you that much.
>story wasn't too convoluted or hard to follow
That tweest regarding Tidus being a dream was pretty retarded desu, people always shit on the orphanage plot twist but that was just as bad if not worse.
>>386545895
IX is incredibly boring and overrated, there's a good reason nobody gave a shit about it until 10 years after its release.

>>386548360
When I say "wasn't too convoluted", that's the only part of it that tripped me up.

FF8 and FFX are the best Final Fantasy titles.

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>>386542539
I've been doing the same thing this year, starting with 7. Feels weird being literally 20 years late to the party, but it's been pretty fun.
Just beat Ruby Weapon last night, think I finished every sidequest/boss and just have Northern Cave left.

i still have to play x-2

>>386548990
All I did was cream all over the instruction manual while watching the opening FMV.

No point in playing, that game is shit.

Unless you're into japanese pop-star simulation games, then it's probably a lot of fun.

>>386548712
7's aged pretty well. Definitely a few questionable choices, but I liked it. Has great atmosphere throughout as well which helps. I see why it's considered a classic and why so many have it as one of their favourites of all time.

>>386549163
It's amazing how much people are still triggered by sexy girls.
The game has many problems but it has nothing to do with the pop star dresses, and it has no pop-star simulation part.

>>386549502
The entire plot is stupid. Rikku finds a sphere with a Tidus look a like in a Bevelle prison, and now she needs to dress up Yuna like a slut, and partner with some weird Squallette, so that they can dress up in different outfits to battle some comic relief bad guy while they chase nothing?

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>>386546339
That's actually right in the middle of the walkthrough

>>386547313
Finished a playthrough after going through it on the ps2 forever ago. i never min/maxed, but i did do a lot of the sphere grid using the monster Tonberry trick in the arena. Then progressed to inside sin and took down S.Omnis in like 5 hits since everyone was doing 15k+ damage.

After barely getting to around 8k damage as a kid, i never thought getting so strong was possible

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>>386549424
yeah, I agree.
I think it especially aged well because of how well the "diesel-punk" setting fits with the grungy graphics/artstyle. The low-res backgrounds, the FMVs, the blocky graphics, the enemy design, etc, and they all fit perfectly into what the PS1 was capable of at the time.

>>386550771
Seeing that fucker underwater for the first creeped me out.

Is it possible to explore the under-water area of FF8 with hacks?

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>>386549707
X-2 is stupid and the only redeeming quality is its ATB system. Until XIII-2, which has tad better battle sans pokemon system. It also has the same problem that its battle is its only redeeming quality.

>>386543650
The only good thing about X-2 is "1000 Words".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSa60HGvoI0

>>386546989
She's only useful late game though. Lulu is the best party member if you just casually play the game.

>>386550898
I never beat him in almost 20 years. Still do not even know where KOTR is and I have beaten the game like 10 times.

>>386553062
You never got a Gold Chocobo?

>>386553062
It's pretty out-there
you need to breed a gold chocobo, and head to a cave in the ocean that's not marked on the map.

>>386548712
>That awkward feel of starting on FFX 16 years later
Feels surreal. I remember playing Planescape: Torment in late '00s, and that still didn't feel too weird.

I guess it's because FF is something so huge by now, so many people "grew out of it" and lately it's been struggling.

>>386543061
The story is absolutely terrible but the gameplay is very good.

>>386553062
I just used god mode on PS4 to beat him. No shame. I wasn't spending hours and hours grinding and getting the perfect gear in a 20 year old game to take down a super boss.

>>386542539
ffx-2 is alright too if you dont mind the girl power bullshit.

>>386545657
Just fucking kill me already. It looks so comfortable plus it looks like it's always warm and everyone is always nice. I'd miss technology but I could make training magic my hobby and keep the area safe from monsters or something.

>>386554343
I'll get round to giving it a go eventually then.

>>386543061
>And I've heard bad things about X-2

it's idolshit but with one of the best gameplay of the serie, that's why people hate it

>>386554586
That's a huge "if".

>>386545772
Does it matter?

>>386545772
The guardian of the high summoner before Braska. Don't think he is ever named.

>>386545365
He went so far into the sea to train that he fell off the fake Zanarkand like the dumbass he is.

>>386552746
Lulu loses steam fast as soon as you give Yuna a Black Magic sphere and steal an Aga spell.

>>386548360
Dream is just a manner of speaking. He is literally a summon.

>>386545895
They definitely took some steps in X that were clearly in the wrong direction and unfortunately stuck with the series. (corrdior gameply, no overworld, too many long cinematics), but the game was still very solid and enjoyable.

>>386548360
>That tweest regarding Tidus being a dream was pretty retarded desu

the hell you mean with twist, as soon as you find besaid you know you either jumped in time, jumped in a parallel universe or you're a reincarnation

in the end, it's the 3 at the same time

>>386554762
Seeing as how Jecht/Sin knew of DZ, and sought out his own son from DZ to bring to Spira, it makes me wonder what 'greater power' would've been able to seek out Jecht, and start the quest for bringing the Eternal Calm.

>>386542539
Okay characters, great gameplay, but too short and linear. Getting rid of explorable world maps was the worst thing FF ever did.

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did you get them all /v/?

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I have irrational hatred for X and it turned me off the franchise forever.

>FF7 gets an ass ton of prequel shit
>We will never get FFX-0 where you play as Jecht, Braska and Auron
the best part is that iirc FFX is also a fucking prequel to FF7

>>386546630
Yeah it really doesn't matter. The major flaw with X is that everyone becomes kind of the same except for overdrives, they should have just kept everyone locked in a class being able to steal some nodes from "sub-classes".

>>386555403
FFx-2 informally

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>>386555403
>where you play as Jecht, Braska and Auron
How would this be a good game at all? You already know what happens and all the twists regarding Yevon there's also no villain besides Sin unless they start retconning stuff, faggots like you are the reason why the VII universe got absolutely trashed with all the spin offs.

>>386548360
Someone else said it as well but he wasn't literally a dream as much as a real physical manifestation created from a dream.

>>386553732
>16 years later

I can't believe it's been 16 years. I remember being so fucking hyped about X because it was the first title in a brand new console so much better than than psx and it even had voices and it looked so incredibly good. How the fuck have 16 years gone by already.

>>386555607
Does that really sound less stupid to you? He could be the physical manifestation of a twinky, I don't give a fuck, it's retarded.

>>386555594
>There's no villain besides Sin
there is literally nothing stopping them from making another Seymour like asshole.

>>386545657
Thia part is so pleasant

>>386554535
But then what is the point of beating it at all? Might as well just not do it.

>>386555247
World map is probably the most glorified aspect of JRPG. 95% of the time the area is locked due to story reasons so you can't explore shit anyway.

HOW DO I MAKE KIMAHRI VIABLE?

>>386555865
And it is still infinitely better than a literal linear corridor.

>>386555709
Yes it does sound less stupid than a literal dream that doesn't exist.

>>386555750
Which would be a completely unnecessary retcon seeing as Auron, Kinoc nor anyone else ever mention such a guy. It's bad enough that Tidus getting killed by a blitzball bomb is canon, let the base game have what little dignity is left.

>>386555396
Filename's good, so here's your You

Also, okay.

>>386555937
The book is fanfiction that didn't happen and nothing anyone says can convince me otherwise.

>>386554983
But dem tits.

>>386555245
Jecht just accidentally left dz/the fayth shoved him off. Sin had nothing to do with it at that point.

>>386555245
Was it ever implied that someone deliberately took Jecht to Spira like Jecht/Sin did with Tidus?
I thought that was simply an accident. Besides, Jecht being in control to such an extent that he could influence Sin's actions was implied to be pretty unique to him as far as I remember. I seriously doubt anybody before Jecht would be able to do the same.

>>386555874
Have him learn Steal and Use.

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>>386545895

mechanically 10 is the last cowboy in the west for the series, after that we have the wonderful 11 but its a completely different animal being an mmo. 12 is where the series died for my childhood but as an adult I now enjoy it for its own thing

>>386555874
Give him Steal and bench him until the Biran and Yenke fight.

>>386555247
I thought the length was fine and the linearity kept the pacing from slipping.

>>386543747

I like a lot of the remastered songs, especially besaid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drw1dfxPaq0

>>386555298
Nah.

>>386555929
It really isn't, especially if we consider the theme of FFX. It's a pilgrimage and the liner gameplay sure as hell add more nuance to it.

>>386555298
And fully upgraded them too, twice in the original releases and once in the remaster. The lightning is pretty easy if you abuse that one spot where lighting will always strike.

>>386546632

If you know what you're doing and use guides, she's the best party member in the game. That being said, my first few playthroughs I never used her so unless you experiment or steal strats online she's mediocre

>>386555865
Even if that is true, the illusion, the sense it gave you about the size of the world is simply unmatched compared to the shitty empty corridors we got instead. I wish developers would understand this.
The last JRPG I remember playing that still featured a world map is Tales of Vesperia and it was awesome there. I think FFX would have benefited a lot from world map.

>>386555750
But Seymour was a shitty secondary villain that overstayed his welcome. I don't want another.

>>386556232
Sounds identical to World of Final Fantasy, I know it's the same composer but it really reminds me of this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKul5hWF5Jw

How is WoFF for those who have played it by the way? Is it just a fun fan service type game or is it more like an actual FF in terms of plot and characters?

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>>386555839
Easy gold trophy.

>>386556232
Don't mention the remaster OST because the midi lover self proclaimed sound experts will trace your IP back and rape your child while telling you how wrong you are and how much the remaster ost "butchered" songs by them no longer being chiptune midishit.

>>386555668
I don't know, Anon. I keep thinking not that much has passed since high school but it's already been over a decade. Partly what makes playing these games so weird.

My girlfriend watches me play X, she's played it around its release, so it's interesting comparing the 2 views.

>>386555874
I followed the advice people gave online and he was still never viable

>>386555594
Why is there a need for a villain? I mean I wouldn't say a full game but an "episode" where you tumble out of Zanarkand with Jecht, join Braska and Auron, make the pilgrimage, fight Yunalesca as Auron and have a final boss against Sin using Braska summoning the Jecht final aeon. I'm surprised no one made a mod when it came out for pc.

>>386556532
He's really just not good and there's no maneuvering around it.

>>386556656
lmao you have no idea how much work making a mod of that scale would be

>>386556174
>the linearity kept the pacing from slipping
While it's true that can be a problem, and indeed was a problem for FF8, 10 goes too far in the other direction. When I unlock an airship in an FF game, I want to be able to go see what's over that mountain, or on that distant island. If I'm selecting locations I've already been to from a drop down menu, why even bother having the airship?

And when you backtrack across the world (this becomes very apparent when you have to do it more in X-2) and go from trudging through the snow of Mount Gagazet to trekking across the plains via only a single screen transition, it makes the world feel way too small.

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>>386556274
Delude yourself however you want. The game being about a pilgrimage doesn't excuse railroading game design in a fucking RPG. There's tons of other games that came before and after this that didn't use the classic overworld and still were much better than FFX could ever be.
BoF4 is an example. Takes no real effort to implement, rewards exploration by triggering conditions in towns and gives the player a fucking choice instead of giving you an entrance, an exist and a chest in the middle of the road.
Nuance? Don't make me fucking laugh, it made a boring game even worse.

>>386555709
Anon it's a summon. Like when you summon any of the aeons, it's literally the same only Tidus looks human and is being perma-summoned (being "dreamed") by one of the fayths in the giant cluster of them.

>>386556329
You don't need world map to get a sense of how big a world is. Vesperia has world map and all, but its world doesn't seem bigger than Spira.

In all honesty, I can't even remember what the fuck I was doing in the world map except running around aimlessly looking for random fight for grinding. Maybe finding that one casino island, but a literal baby could find that thing right away.

>>386556118
No, but we don't get to hear or see that story. All we know is he went missing from DZ, and was found in Spira just like Tidus, to go on the pilgrimage.

To me it doesn't seem like just some random innocent act.

>>386556656
>Why is there a need for a villain?
Why wouldn't there? We already know everything that happens on their pilgrimage, we've already done the same pilgrimage, we know all about the corruption of the church. There is literally nothing that we would gain from such a game except for the scene where Jecht fights the Shoopuf unless they start adding a bunch of retcons like they did with VII. It would quite literally be a walking simulator that I would have zero intention of playing.

Every single FF game told a complete story and anything left unanswered was done so on purpose (usually), these extended universes are cancer and you end up with trash like Genesis in Crisis Core.

>>386556887
Well, I personally wouldn't know about that. I just stuck to the main story.

>>386546632
found the guy who didnt know how to churn out megalixers, trio of 999 and sunflares

Is the steam version well ported? Or is better to just emulate it on pcsx2?

>>386557139
OP here, and I'll confess that I didn't.

>>386557018
>You don't need world map to get a sense of how big a world is. Vesperia has world map and all, but its world doesn't seem bigger than Spira.

I cannot possibly disagree more. This is just straight wrong.

>>386557035
Well, the game did state it was one.
True, if they ever wanted to make a prequel and wanted to add more story to make said prequel more interesting, it would be a good idea to expand on it. However, some might feel this is borderline retcon. I personally do not feel this part needs more explanation,

>>386557232

I havent played but I hear it runs fine. They changed the faces of the characters which look a lot worse imo, the font looks horrible, and the music is remastered with orchestra's which is hit or miss with some people. You also get the international version with extra bosses, sidequests, and the expert sphere grid.

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>>386557000
That's fucking retarded.
So, are you telling me that Ifrit lives in his own world as a succesfull basketball player, has kids and a wife and occasionally gets ripped into another dimension/world/dream/ice cream flavor just so he can smash meteors into monsters?
That's why that shit is retarded. People can moan about orphanages all they want, X has the dumbest shit in the entire franchise.

>>386557232
Works great, and if you encounter any problems, there's a mod for it.

>>386556512
I replayed the remaster recently with my boyfriend watching and he was really into it. He had only played viii before and told me he didn't understand shit. He gasped when Jecht was revealed to be Sin and shed a tear at the end. It was cute. He has a terrible relationship with his dad daddy issues so maybe that's why he was so into the story.

>>386557526
Changing the faces feels like such an unnecessary move. In my opinion they do not look worse, but they do not look better either. Some people like you even think they are worse. So why change them? They had some extra budget they didn't know where to allocate and went with that?

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>>386557709
It was outsourced for one.

>>386557820
Is the left the finished product or the prerelease stuff that people were comparing with for a while?

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>>386542539

I played the game in 2014 on my PS2 and then the remaster on PC in 2015.
Yet many of these songs feel extremely nostalgic, like early to mid 2000s nostalgic. I don't understand why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHw2V0C-D-o

>>386557975
Finished, sadly.

>>386557564
I have no idea what you just said and why you overcomplicated it just to make it look that bad.
Ifrit is being dreamed by one of the Fayths, and can be summoned as an Aeon.
The interesting part is that an entire city (Dream Zanarkand) is also being dreamed just like Ifrit. And that entire city can be summoned as an Aeon. Dream Zanarkand is perma-summoned as an Aeon. Tidus escapes from that Dream Zanarkand but he is still part of the city. So technically Tidus is an Aeon. That's why he disappears at the end of the game.

You might say it's overcomplicated, I don't think it is and I think it's pretty neat.

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>>386557975

finished product.

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>>386557975
It's the final product.

>>386557564
Ifrit gets summoned and then dismissed, his fayth goes back to sleeping. Tidus was summoned and kept there, the fayth dreaming since the summoner was keeping Tidus (and all of Zanarkand) constantly summoned. That's why the fayths are so fucking tired and just want it to end. The dream zanarkand isn't an alternate dimension or anything, it's a physical thing in the middle of uncharted ocean. The same way some guy sacrificed himself so he could be a medium for a summoner to summon Ifrit, millions of people sacrificed themselves so Yu Yevon could summon a "dream" zanarkand where he could keep a memory of the city alive at least. Now everyone is completely exhausted and just wants it to end but Yevon lost his mind and is keeping things going forever.

>>386558171
They all look ridiculous, but the ps2 version is more distinct and well made. The other two look like retarded baby-faced justin biebers

>>386558171
Is his wider neck a result of new aspect ratios for the HD release?

>>386558401
the problem isn't ever the face, it's the expressions, FFX managed to impress everyone with dynamic and expressive faces we never saw before.

the cutscenes have way less impact

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>>386558773
Yeah.

>>386542539
Love it or hate it game, not everyone will like it.
That said, the OST is objectively good so that makes it easy to spot retards who furiously try to claim the game has nothing good going for it.

IMHO, it has a really solid english dub.

>>386542539
>Minus Rikku

I didn't know you posted on /v/ Wakka

>>386558171
Tidus now looks like a gay twinkboy instead of merely teenage questionable style.

>>386559267
"God damn Al-Bhed, knocking down my shiddy wall!"

>>386559267
>>386546527
If the eye is spiral, the solution's final.
t. Wakka

>>386559469
Rikku's eyes legit freak me out.

>>386558171
meg ryan teedus was the best

why does every remaster have to fuck something up?

>>386559624
Lol I can't unsee the Meg Ryan

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>>386559614
Rikku freaks me out.

>>386559624
Pretty much every company outsources all remasters, the remaster for Twilight Princess had a similar issue with facial expressions actually looking worse in the remaster than they did on the GameCube.

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>>386558171
>>386559125
>>386558064

That's just unfortunate.

>>386559614
I mean, technically it should be impossible for her to see like that. I guess eyes are just magic in FFX.

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Because maybe if I post it enough times it'll become a meme

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Woah...

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oh yeah, X is definitely one of the better ones in the franchise, i finished it last week myself. it really could been better with classic world map and more diverse monster pool

IX > X > V > XV > VIII > VII > IV > III > X-2
>mfw i thought X-2 would actually be sequel to X

>>386560704
seriously... how can they fuck up this much?

>>386558049
Yes! Someone else who appreciates this song, its my favourite track from the FFX OST.

>>386555929
I let him walk on yuna's part of the sphere board. I could enter it after the fight with the spheremorph (because of the Lv.2 Keysphere you get of it) and thus had a healer when yuna wasn't there for hours. I also used black magic spheres to give him some of lulus spells. Because Yuna's sphereboard section has more magic nodes Kimahri outmatched Lulu in regards to damage done. Because Yuna fucked off right before some really good leveling opportunities (sandworms) he was a better white mage than her. So he was basically my go to mage at least til i got the Celestial Weapons.

>>386548712
I'm in the same boat. I just finished 7 without any guides and kinda rushed to the end. All things considering, surprised I was able to avoid spoiling most of the story for as long as this game has been out..
I'm replaying it again with some mods and gonna try to 100% it

FFX is probably my favorite installment. It certainly has my favorite battle system.
I don't like the sphereboard to much desu but it gives leveling up some kind of interactivity.
I think they should have added an overworld map, if they thought it would look to goofy with the realistically proportioned characters they could have done it like Lost Odyssey, an XBox 360 Game where you travel the overworld with a ship.

I'm actually playing FFX at the moment, the hd remaster to be exact.
Last time i played it i was a lot younger and didn't do much more than the main story.
Now i've done all the annoying shit to get the celestial weapons.
Next thing to do is completing the monster arena and then probably getting utterly trashed by the black aeons.

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>>386562925
>Rock paper scissors is my favorite battle system

>>386560704
>>386561006
To me, they only look different, but none of them are better than the other.

>>386562925
I actually love the sphere grid big time. It makes progress easier to track and stat increases feel like more of an upgrade, at least in my opinion anyway.

>>386563237
Sorry, i meant the way the turnbased battle system plays out. Should have clarified.

>>386562316
I refuse to believe Aeris wasn't spoiled to you. At least admit that part, the others are ok, but it was impossible to avoid this one even before the internet age.
I remember the fucking review in the magazine I used to read in my country spoiled it, or rather treated it as if everyone knew it already.

>>386563481
yeah i always liked ATB system and feels like X perfected it

>>386563573
X isn't ATB.

>>386563572
>most of the story
That was the only real part that was spoiled. I was kinda hoping that was implied.

>>386563573
X is CTB which is better than ATB anyway

>>386563572
That spoiler is literally unavoidable. I was playing the game basically waiting for her to die.

>>386563846
>>386564096
well yeah i am aware that technically it isnt ATB but still it was very close to it
loved how important high speed was and how there was a clear visual whose turn comes next
also the hot swapping of characters in fights was a great feature

>>386564242
It was traditional turn based with a speed variable, which previously determined how fast your bar filled up, that now determined turn order and how many turns you could take.
I agree with you though, even though normal encounters were really formulaic the combat shone during boss fights and it's really the only FF system I'd consider to be good. XV would go from a 3/10 to a 6/10 if they just copy and pasted X's combat.

>>386564242
Being able to swap characters on the fly was seriously nice, every single rpg should do thins.

>>386564631
>Throwing out random numbers without giving explanation

>>386564885
>Implying an explanation is needed why XV was a 3/10

>>386564950
Well I thought it was pretty good.

>>386560704
I actually think she looks a little better on the right, contrary to Tidus.

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>>386559853

I don't remember it looking this fucking hideous

It's been fifteen fucking years and I still haven't that damn chocobo race

>>386568281
it's fucking luck based bullshit, thats why.

>>386568281

It was the easiest shit compared to the goddamn butterfly catching or lightning-dodging

I just get the easy ultimate weapons and call it a day.

I've never done more than the first few arena bosses though.

>>386568413
FFX has the worst mini games of any game out there, every single last one of them is pure unadulterated schlock.

>>386555874
In the expert sphere grid you can put him on lulu's path, he's pretty good as a black mage.

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>>386568631

>had to farm that one shitty arena boss for lvl4 key spheres

Who even came up with all this shit and got it through all the production committee meetings?

>>386568727
Thats why i will never get them or beat the superbosses. It's just not worth it.

>>386568727
Blitzball is actually pretty good after you hire some new members and start leveling them up. When it's on manual control however it can be a little too easy, i found it a lot more enjoyable to put the AI on automatic and make shots/passes when the time was right.

It becomes even better the longer you play it, especially when you've got some dickass albhed psyches who have techcopied your sphere shot and start using it against you.

>>386542539
>The party members were all likeable (minus Rikku)
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>386569342
I might try to get into it one of these days but the mandatory game against the Goers never really enticed to me look further into it, I just turtle with the ball in the back until I can switch over to the Jecht shot for an easy point so I can win. How do you recruit people anyways, do you have to go back to Luca from the save spheres?

The announcer during the blitzball game is one of the best parts of the game by the way.

>>386543747
Yeah but the masterpiece that is Spurs Unplugged though.
Funny how the best songs in the game are in the same area and are heard within ~10 Kind of each other

>>386568413
butterfly hunt you can at least know where the butterflies will be and what the best route is.
Lightning dodging is more of an exercise in patience. and for the pc version some people wrote scripts that automate the dodging.

>>386569678
Most common way is to find people in game and then (for me i use a 360 controller) press x to hire them for blitzball, (would be square for a ps controller). You can find a list of some of the best players to recruit on wiki or someshit.

You can also hire people after games sometimes when their contract with their respective teams run out, if they don't buy them again you can put in a bid to contract them.

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I was playing on my PS2 and took a phone photo so it's kind of shitty.

I think this was at about level 60 or so play in Blitzball, never have I ever seen the AI put up that many points. Al-Behd Physches are unreal late game.

>>386545365
>still being a retard
There have been hundreds of posts that go in detail explaining that he went to far out at sea. It's not rocket science dumbass.

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>>386543061
>I've heard bad things about X-2. I'll play it some time out of morbid curiosity
I wouldn't recommend it
It absolutely shits on the ending of the original game and the character development it had.
The story is garbage and the game will make you cringe because of it's stupid writing,
not to mention how it feels like a joke/fanfiction.

It has a bunch of retarded comedy-relief elements, such as dancing in combat. (and in general, brother acting gay/creepy as fuck)

It's like they wanted to kill everything that made X good other than the world.

All the characters feel like they forgot what they went through in X, their bonds and their strength just vanished in to thin air.
They're not even acting like themselves anymore, except maybe Rikku.

If you do touch it, imagine that it's some fruity happy-go-lucky adventure-gane which was written by some queer with an obsession about Charlie's Angels or something

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGIN2jkZVjE

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>>386571667
>jecht just magically wonders off the edge of DZ and ends up in Spira

No, go fuck yourself, SOMETHING happened, what I don't know, but it's not an accident. There's some otherworldly force that wanted/needed Jecht to start the Eternal Calm.

>>386571331
wait till you see them at highest levels.
if you fired all the Aurochs, get ready to face them as some kind of blizball demigods who would make jecht, brother and tidus look like toddlers

>>386570065
Yeah, and in the chocobo race, you just gather the balloons

>>386572021
>>386571667

He was out training in the sea and touched Sin, the same as Tidus. They say this in the game.

>>386572292
And so what's happening in DZ now that Tidus is gone? What're they saying about him?

Did he go out to the sea for training and get lost? I mean, the fayth has surely healed DZ by now, and they know nothing more of Sin, but the fayth for Tidus is still dreaming, so he's still missing from that world.

>>386571726
Basically this. The story really does feel like incredibly bad quality fanfiction. The worst kind.

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>>386572505
The story is Hamlet when compared to X-2.5.

>>386572445

If the fayth remade the dream Zanarkand, then it's probable that Tidus was remade with it and the dream carries on like usual.

>>386572770
So there's two different fayth's of Tidus' former life?

>>386571726

AND WAKKA KNOCKS UP LULU HAHAHA

>>386572113
which are spawned completely randomly, making configurations possible where it is impossible to get the zero seconds.
And thats not even regarding other bad design descisions like the invisible walls or birds dive bombing you out of fucking nowhere.

>>386572624
To this day I don't understand what's up with X-2.5. Is the story about the writer sending out a fan fiction by mistake that he had read previously true? Sounds like an excuse so fucked up even if it was true I would never admit it..

>>386572038
even botta? he was the only one of the original aurochs i didn't use because he was good at absolutely nothing.

>>386572624
Wasn't that some weird novel? I really want to read it, sounds hilarious.

>>386542624
What sequels?

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>>386572624
The guy who wrote x-2, x-2.5 must have done it as awfully as possible, solely out of spite towards the higher-ups who forced a sequel(s) to what anyone could see was a "finished masterpiece"
Pardon my food analogy, but it's like someone who uses more spices until the soup is ruined

>>386573108
>Wasn't that some weird novel?
Weird doesn't begin to describe it.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X-2.5_~Eien_no_Daishō~

>>386572821

Dream Tidus is based on Shuyin, so the connection to real Zanarkand is pretty loose and subject to change. There's no reason to think they can't dream him anew, if everything else needs to be remade as well. In Zecht's case, it was only him removed, so it was probably simpler to just keep going without him.

But after Sin's attack, the whole dream Zanarkand was destroyed. If the killed can't be remade, then it will have to remain ruins until the end of the game when the fayth itself is sent.

>>386572038
Highest levels the besaid aurochs are still pretty underwhelming, they are the worst players for a reason. the only one who becomes somewhat decent is Keepa... but that's only because of his shooting skill at max level sky rockets (which is kinda pointless since he's a goal keeper)

>>386573050
As far as I remember, even fucking KEEPA turns into a legendary eldergod of watersports

>>386573385
They really don't.

>>386557564
>t. someone who did not understand the plot

>>386573312
Holy shit. Is there any way to read this in full in English?

>>386573385
but keepa is a decent player to begin with. He has a clear purpose in which he is useful.
Botta is really fucking useless.
There is a reason he thought Wakka would put him on the bench once Tidus showed up to the final.

>>386549990
>words like "cunno", which means "sorry".
So that's where "cunny" came from

Started playing this today. Got to the Blitzball tutorial and then stopped. I hoped that shit won't drag on for too long.

>>386573312

>the meme about tidus dying on a blitzball is actually true

And I thought people were joking...

>>386542539
>What do you guys think

now you should go play 3 best ff's, tactics, 12 and 9. then play some superior jrpg's > SMT, suikoden, persona

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>>386573720
Just read the plot synopsis, it's long and detailed as it is. Just a warning it will irrevocably tarnish your stance on X which may be good or bad.

>>386573351
well we actually don't know how tidus would have turned out if his life followed the same way shuyins did. I think Shuyin is somewhat older than Tidus. It would make sense if the way Tidus is, changed from what Shuyin is, because Tidus' father vanished and his mother killed herself(Shuyins father couldn't have vanished the same way as Jecht because of the differences between real and dream zanarkand..

>>386573351
So, Shuyin is able to dream himself twice at the same time?

While he's in Spira, and another so DZ doesn't freak out about the missing Tidus/Shuyin? You're getting off my topic here.

JECHT LEAVING SPIRA WASN'T A SIMPLE ACCIDENT.

THERE WAS A GREATER FORCE AT PLAY TO START THE ENTIRE STORY OF THE GAME, AND WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT

WHY DID JECHT END UP IN SPIRA
WHO WANTED JECHT TO BE IN SPIRA
WHO WAS SIN BEFORE JECHT?!

>>386573312
>http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X-2.5_~Eien_no_Daishō~

Huh, that was far less crazy than all the comments made it sound and adds some neat world-building.

>>386574664

Shuyin's an unsent and not part of Zanarkand's fayth. The people of Zanarkand are clearly not dreaming exclusively their own lives, but the city and its people the way they remember them.

>>386575001
sequel retcon bullshit aside

WHO WAS THE PREVIOUS SIN BEFORE JECHT?!

>>386574664
>WHY DID JECHT END UP IN SPIRA
by chance
>WHO WANTED JECHT TO BE IN SPIRA
nobody/destiny
>WHO WAS SIN BEFORE JECHT?!
Why would you care? whoever it was, they we're just another sheep summoner who thought "maybe sin wont come back this time, praise yevon machina is sin"

>>386575092
The previous Grand Summoner's Final Aeon. It doesn't matter.

>>386575257
>by chance
my ass
>nobody
my ass
>destiny
yes, now you're talking
>another sheep summoner
No, nigga. They get to Zanarkand, Yunalesca gives her speech, and there's some form of struggle.
THERE COULDN'T NOT BE A STRUGGLE.

There was a condition, there was something under the table, there was SOMETHING WE'RE MISSING, THAT MAKES THE WHOLE STORY EVEN GREATER, and it has nothing to do with the post-Eternal Calm bullshit.

>>386575491

Go take your pills now, Jimmy.

>>386576074
Go fuck yourself and jerk off to FFXV or something, fag boi.

>>386575491
but why couldn't there not be a struggle?
When Braskas group reaches Zanarkand, 2 out of 3 are down for it
It seems that a summoner+his guardians are often rather small groups, two or three people.
As the summoner has to summon and at least one of the guardians has to sacrifice himself there is a good chance that almost every pilgrimage ends with the people being okay with it.
Also Yunalesca tells yuna the truth once she asks for it. Maybe noone else asked.

>>386555403
>the best part is that iirc FFX is also a fucking prequel to FF7
wat

>>386555874
I always use mine as a worse wakka with some spells.

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>>386576645
>XV
>Bad
Looks like we got some shit taste up in here.

If you sheep just want to sit there and believe Jecht had a happy little drunken blitzball training 'accident' that started the eternal calm, that's fine.

But, I know there's something else out there.

>>386576790
Shinra when X-2 founds Shinra Inc. from VII, it's confirmed canon by Kitase.
>TFW VII isn't even safe from spin offs of other mainline games

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>>386577009
>you can move around while in battle
Not a FF.

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>>386577130
Yep.