So...when's the next one coming out?

The series died after RA2.

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ywn be in the time zone where hitler didn't exist, and neither did ra3/c&c4

>>386541538
Generals was pretty great if unbalanced .

>>386541247
Never, and if a new one was created they'd probably shoe horn in assfaggots cancer.

>>386541538
>>386541538

The series died with Red Alert 2,the online ladder system was a mess of people cheating their score,devs couldn't keep up with map revelers trainers,EA was just randomly banning people on their forums,Yuri's Revenge was a thought made by a 5yo kid and so on.

The series died after the first Red Alert.

The series died with C&C 4

>>386541247
never, the last attempt was so shit THAT EA SHUT IT DOWN and purged the studio that made it

red alert 2 and generals were the only good c&c games. The rest were hot garbage

>>386542635
>tiberum sun, red alert 1, renegade and tiberium wars
>garbage

kill yourself

>>386542635
I liked the B-movie tier storyline in Tiberium Sun

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Dead

It's too bad we never got a C&C 4

hot opinions
ra3 is actually good,albeit a bit different from other res alerts
zero hour is balanced (sorta)
ra2 is fun,but lacks depth

>>386541247
I always entertain the thought but for that to happen, I think EA would have to settle their score with the community first.

Get it through their heads about just what EA did for the series and how Westwood wasn't the hot shit the grogs made them up to be and that their falling out of favor with the series was a mater of economy going sideways instead of saturday morning villain plot to tank a multi-million franchise for the sake of it.

Only with community at their side could they hope to actually make games again. And that's completely ignoring the lingering issue of them not owning any RTS studio.

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>>386545887
>>386545887
wow i fucked that up
you get the idea

>>386545887
>ra3 is actually good,albeit a bit different from other res alerts
I wholeheartedly agree. The game's biggest issue is the absolute trash pathfinding and certain unit-balance.

>zero hour is balanced (sorta)
Honestly haven't played enough Zero Hour to cocmment on this.

>ra2 is fun,but lacks depth
Competitive RA2 is really fun and interesting to watch at first, but after the 30th game you see that the players very rarely deviate from known strategies. So I guess part of your comment has merit. It is very fun regardless, top 3 C&C for sure.

>>386545887
>zero hour is balanced (sorta)

Zero Hour ends up in the fighting game category.
You've got tiers, the game is balanced as long as you adhere to those tiers.
It's as simple as that.

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>>386546208
if you want to play zero hour,it still has an active fan base,people ranging from total shitters to absolute gods
https://cnc-online.net/en/

>>386546384
i dom't jack shit about fighting games
what do you mean?

>>386547723
>https://cnc-online.net/en/
Thanks. Will have to reinstall it then.

>>386541538
Wrong. RA3 still has solid gameplay. Only CNC4 is the bad game.

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>>386547723
>i dom't jack shit about fighting games
>what do you mean?

Fighting games are a genre with a lot of extremely different characters. Given a lot of unique gamplay styles, perfect balance is impossible.
And so the community basically arranges these tier lists where you assign each fighter into one of 4-ish tiers of usability.
Basically, you cut your losses and balance the game around having enough characters competitive as well as have enough in each category that you can get fair matches no matter who you pick.

Same with Zero Hour. Some Generals dominate, some have the shorter stick, some hard-counter others. In the end, you can make any of them work as long as you don't pit them against the most broken ones the game has to offer.

>>386541538
C&C 3 and KW were good you phillistine.
RA was corny as fuck, they ruined everything in favor of making a kids game.

>>386548768
RA 1 wasn't meant to be corny you faggit. They went full retard with 2

>>386548768
>RA was corny as fuck, they ruined everything in favor of making a kids game.

Red Alert 1 is a rubbish clone of C&C.

Red Alert 2 and 3 are both corny to hell and back. That's where most of the appeal comes from.

>>386548892
>>386548926
FUCK I meant RA2 went corny, NOT RA1
RA2 and 3 were shit, 1 was okay

>>386548756
hmmm,zero hour doesn't really have direct counters,some generals do have an advantage when playing against another general,but i wouldn't call it direct counters
take a look at some cnc online replays and you'll see that in most matches it doesn't really matter what general you are,especially if you're playing as the US
the only case i can think of is inf v tank but supposedly both players were on the same skill level it won't really matter as a tank can still easily win

>ea is at its most corrupt
>rts have been devoured by assfaggots
>you still want a new C&C

>>386542635
this
every other game played like shit
especially tiberian sun

>>386545887
>zero hour is balanced
laughing superweapon general.jpg

>>386548756
>Given a lot of unique gamplay styles, perfect balance is impossible.
haven't played fighting games but when it comes to RTS that's a complete fallacy, Zero Hour was just a clusterfuck

>>386548106
RA3 was a steaming pile of shit

The last good C&C was Kane's Wrath

>>386551260
Pretty funny in MP lobbies seeing someone pick SW Gen for everyone to shout change that OP POS, those were the good ol' days

>>386551260
>stealth bombers
>rpgs/missile defenders/tank hunters
>ecm(might backfire)
>avengers
>tomahawks
>saboteur
>buggys
>scud launchers
for taking out the bs emp patriots
>quads
>more quads
for taking out the alpha aurora

that's all what sw has

>>386551805

RA3 is so fucking bad. It's a parody of itself - it's like archaeologists at EA found the remnants of Red Alert and tried to recreate it with only vague ideas of what the game actually was. I spent a decent chunk of bday money on that game as a kid and was disappointed.

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>>386541247
it's dead

http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Chinese_POW_truck
>Hihihihihihihi.- When selected
what did they mean by this?

>>386541247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_x6bmzluc

They tried to implement micro-transactions in Generals 2, what the fuck were they thinki...oh yeah $$$ which then left fans with a sour taste in their mouths. Gaming is dead, if they can't nickle n dime a game today it ain't getting made, Just look at Shadow of War a single player game with fucking LOOT BOXES just fuck it I'm done fuck it all

>>386541896
RA3 wasn't THAT bad.
It also had Tim Curry.

>>386541247
lol

>>386551805
RA3 had some redeemable factors
It's wasn't terrible and an interesting emphasis on navel shit, which was cool.

The resource gathering simplification was a terrible design choice, however

>>386554530
>RA3 had some redeemable factors

Really? Because I don't remember any. I just remember a shitty art style, too many highly-paid actors, abilities for every unit even when they didn't need it and an entirely uninteresting storyline

>>386555065
>>386554530
>>386554024
RA3's only redeemable factors were The Shogun Executioner and the fuggin cute Archer Maidens.
Hnnng

Oh, and this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyIaKrGU8cs
>Archer Maidens bow respectfully when you deselect them, and are the only unit that do that

>>386556129
rocket angels >>>>>>> archer maidens

>>386556825
Rocket Bitches are rude-ass SJW le girl power whores who talk back to you without even knowing you. They also get free flying power armour without any effort whatsoever. They're essentially empowered real world women.
Archer maidens are family wives/widows who willingly enlist to train very fucking hard and serve their nation proudly, all while being polite and respectful.
Also, Archer Maidens shoot down rocket bitches easily.

>>386551260
>limit superweapons
>laugh harder

>>386557524
you think the superweapon general is good because of superweapons? that's only icing on the cake

>>386552117
Just use air force general with the upgrade that lets you destroy missiles with a laser

>>386557629
literally the only reason she's good

$2500 for a particle cannon? That's like half as much as normal cost.
Her EMP turrets are complete shit against every infantry in the game, and suffers from artillery same as regular patriot turrets. At least the laser ones can shut down tomahawks/scuds.

>>386557965
shes good because of the alpha aurora bombers
they will kill you before superweapons even need to be built
emp patriots are great aswell because you need infantry to take them out, and infantry are very easy to kill with other methods

>>386541247
was there supposed to be a generals 2 and fucking bioware of all devs was making it? or was that another fever dream?

thank christ it didn't happen

>>386557637
that upgrade is available for all US generals
plus the stealth bomber is the best at swiftly taking out base defenses and light tanks

>>386557067
i'm talking about the gameplay u god damn idiot i don't give a fuck what EA made the voice actors do

>>386558126
>>386552117

>>386558164
>that upgrade is available for all US generals
Nope, you can only get the point defense laser on aircraft with the air force general.

>>386558164
quads cant kill auroras until after they've dropped their payload and considering their huge AoE you can just drop them on the quads

There were attempts to bring it back, but EA isn't the type to pour in money into franchises they've let go of.
>so why were there attempts then?
Free to play and some mobile ports. EA's half-assing it. Hell, even if by some miracle the games *were* good, don't expect EA to bring it back.

I really wish they didn't give up on Generals 2.

>>386558164
>I'm talking about the gameplay
Archer Maidens kill infantry with one hit. And they can target air targets too.
Rocket Angels lose hard, you mumbling retard.

>>386558561
it looked like shit I dont think we're missing much

>>386558559
it's cuz the RTS genre is dead af

>>386558665
you think RTS was the only attempt they made?

>>386558665
you can say that again, Age of mythology has fucking MOBA mods for it and dawn of war 3 fucking crashed and is currently burning

>>386558797
MOBA is not competing with RTS though.

>>386558304
ah i thought you were talking about countermeasures
half what i said is still true though

>>386558321
quads are the only things that can even damage auroras before dropping their loads
>drop them on the quads
*presses x*
what now?
they're pretty easy to avoid

>>386558595
rocket angels are good for everything but taking down infantry
better value desu
plus it's not like you're going to move them in on your own,right?
ra3 doesn't have a 'haha im just gonna build 5 of this and win' unit like ra2

>>386558665
>implying
league and dota 2 are still very popular

>>386558942
yeah it's not competing cause mobas completely cannibalized RTS

>>386558981
their own*

>>386541247
Never. The mods is all that's left.

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>>386541538
*Generals Zero Hour

>>386558981
>Clearly starts an argument on one specific unit against another
>Gets btfo
>OH BUT THE OTHER UNITS

>>386541247
Hopefully never.

Westwood could come back and it would probably turn out like shit too.

Why is generals and zero hour not on steam?
C&C 3 and 4 is.

>>386558981
>quads are the only things that can even damage auroras before dropping their loads
what? they're invincible on their attack run, thats the whole point of auroras. good luck scattering any sizable force enough to avoid a fuel air bomb, it doesnt sound like you've even played the game

>>386559147
rocket angels are better than maidens because they're better in ever single way BUT killing infantry
that's all they have

>>386559335
the auroras air bomb doesn't have that big of a range though
they can be easily avoided if you're not playing against AI

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I wan't a new c&c game, its been so long.

>>386559056
RTS killed itself. Elitism from experienced players in online scenes in a niche genre prevented any new blood from getting interested in it, and with massive trainwrecks such as Starcraft 2 and the abomination that was CnC 4 (you have to GRIND to UNLOCK ALL units in the game for multiplayer as a new player, while other people who've already gotten all the better units would stomp you endlessly until you got everything), the genre effectively died.
MOBAs did not cannibalize RTS, neither did they kill it at all. They just derived from it as a replacement because the original genre is impenetrable to new players on all fronts and newcomers can't be assed to be matched with and destroyed by seasoned veterans before you can develop your base and get shittalked on top of it.
Take it from someone who's been playing RTS since infancy.

>>386559487
the bomb takes less than a second to impact and has an AoE bigger than the nuke cannon
why do you make up shit on the internet

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>>386541247

There will never be a decent CnC game again, at least officially.

Rely on Mods and shit like Tiberium Essence, Mental Omega, and Tiberium Insurrection to scratch that CNC itch. EA has already mutilated the franchise multiple times over.

>>386559618
>Elitism from experienced players in online scenes in a niche genre prevented any new blood from getting interested in it
That's the nature of RTS though. Whoever has a better APM will usually win.

>>386559967
what the fuck are you talking about
the air bomb or the aurora
the aurora has NO range

>>386545887
If you want Red Alert 2 with more depth, try Mental Omega mod.

>>386559618
if you'd been playing RTS since it's infancy you'd know they were the ultimate casual dad games and weren't niche at all in their heyday
but when you get good at them and play them at high levels they are pretty spammy

Would it revive the genre if EA made a Battlefield RTS?

>>386541538
not when generals is the best in the series, especially with mods

>>386560136
superweapon general has special auroras that drop miniature fuel air bombs

>>386560186
Ea would never risk destroying their most profitable franchise, anon.

>>386560072
Skillful play is the nature of RTS, not veterans and their rabid followers talking shit about new players as if they were aliens.

>>386560181
>They were the ultimate casual dad games
Which is why they were niche. Not kiddos played them unless their dads showed it to them. The initial burst of attention was due to C&C revolutionizing the genre and pretty much writing the book on how to make an RTS game.

>>386560284
i know
their range isn't as big as you remember it being

>>386560375
>Not kiddos played them unless their dads showed it to them
yeah it's not like every kid has a dad or anything, and it's not like video games were only for kids

>>386560494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHEgUeDxTc8

>>386560526
Did any of your friends know of Dune 2 when you were a kid?

>>386560748
yes, but that's beside the point, C&C and Warcraft 2 were the breakout games in the genre

>>386541247
twisted insurrection is canon at this point and free to play, go play that one

>>386560639
i just tried it out and it's not like that
maybe it's nerfed in 1.06?
i'll try 1.04 now

>>386561564
same thing
the cloud from the bomb is big but the actual range of damage is not the same as the video