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Nier 1 soundtrack was better than Automata's

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proof:
>The Prestigious Mask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ic1WrCg_dk

>Temple of Drifting Sands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJhn5WZ4kE

>Gods Bound By Rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIgfwsOph4I

>Shadowlord's Castle (Memory)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvoNkYzY3vc

dissent welcome
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They're both a joy to listen to.
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Wtf there was a nier 1?....just looked it up.... you dont even play as a cute girl? i dont wanna stare at old man ass... glad this shit skipped pc
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I like automata's generic combat theme more than anything from OG nier. However I think in general the original had higher quality songs than it's sequel
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Automata simply surpasses original Nier's OST. Better track variety and way more consistent quality, extremely powerful new tracks that rival the tops of Nier's OST (Vague Hope, Bipolar Nightmare, City Ruins Shade, Beautiful Song, Weight of the World/End of YoRHa), way better OST usage inside the game with transitions from instrumental to vocal versions depending on your position inside the location, and it's simply way more thematic, for example it's crazy that War & War uses the same leitmotif as City Ruins despite those two sounding absolutely different.

It also has majestic arranges/callbacks to the themes from the first game that sound absolutely different and arguably better in some cases (Wretched Weaponry, Grandma Destruction).

Both osts are great but you really need to be a mindless hipster sheep to deny that Okabe peaked at Automata despite the fact he considers it his best work. On top of that Automata has an entire album of hacking tracks some of which sound plain better than normal versions like Sound of the End.
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>>386540021
Music taste is subjective
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I just like both.
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Shadowlord's castle from the tribute album is the best song.
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>>386540021
NieR loses points for me for how many times it reuses Emil Sacrifice. How a track is implemented in-game is more important than listening to it on YouTube later. Automata has way stronger sound design and its tracks don't wear out their welcome as much as NieR's. Though a lot of it is due to Automata's higher budget and having a more competent developer.
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>>386540021
Some of nier automata songs are just teribble, i really dislike that new singer
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>>386540925
Can you give some examples? I don't recall disliking any of the songs in automata.
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>>386540925
>implying the desert theme isn't the best shit ever

Also, Automata's soundtrack is just as good, if not better. The only thing NieR 1's soundtrack has over Automata is those bangin' motherfuckin drums.

Besides, almost every song in Automata is a remix of a song in NieR
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>>386540925
>implying J'nique Nicole is bad
I'll fight you, fucker. After DoD3 and NieR, her voice is a breath of fresh air. Without out her, The Tower, A Beautiful Song, City Ruins, and Memories of Dust wouldn't be good.
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>>386541047
Some that comes to mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Figo-QTW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1RM8ECQe5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwBh_7zV4Wo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z49X4rpxdQE

i'm really not a fan of this electro pop thingy, and the main theme are also weak
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I liked the implementation of become as gods.
Nier 1 had a good soundtrack but it reused tracks too often desu
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>>386541413
GARBAGE FUCKING TASTE
FUCK YOU
ALL THOSE SONGS ARE 10/10
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>>386541413
I really don't know what to tell you if you don't like end of the unknown and this cannot continue. Guess we'll have to just agree to disagree.
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>>386541413
>Taking the obvious joke emil song seriously
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>>386541413
>disliking Birth of a Wish
>actually linking Emil's joke song
anon please
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>>386541413
>He doesn't like this cannot continue
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>>386541413
I can get not like end of the unknown but the rest is more than fine.
Though I really don't like how they translated "kami ni naru" to "this cannot continue"
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>>386541741
>Though I really don't like how they translated "kami ni naru" to "this cannot continue"

They didn't you dolt, it's two different songs
コノママジャダメ = this cannot continue
カミニナル = become as gods
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>>386540021
Both are my absolute favourite game OSTs but I honestly would rate Automata slightly higher
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>>386541893
Oh I see, it's been a while and for as far as I remember the actual OST doesn't have the robot voices in the actual songs and seeing as they sound rather similar I mixed 'em up.
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>>386542135
what about this: between both games, which has the single best track of the series?
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>>386542958
The end of yorha is the absolute best track.
There is no disputing this.
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>>386543579
pleb choice
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>>386542958
My personal favourite from each game would be The Ultimate Weapon and City Ruins (Shade) although if you had a vote or something I would expect Song of the Ancients Fate to win
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Since it's a nier thread, here's some new things from the Automata novel.

A2 decides to erase Pascal's memory.
It's suggested that A2 didn't previously know that 2B was actually an E model until she fused with 2B's memory and knew how hard it was for her to keep killing 9S over and over…
9S realizes that his body is moving against his will due to the virus toward the end of the fight with A2.
Pod042 and Pod153 state that if they help reconstruct 2B, 9S, and A2 that this would be against their programming since they were tasked with completing the disposal and deletion of all information relating to YoRHa. Pod153 seems reluctant to go along with Pod042's wishes because breaking with protocol would make them outcasts which the other Pods would attempt to destroy, But they somehow attack the Pod network, which essentially turns all the other Pods to their side.
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>>386542958
Shadowlord is the absolute best song in both games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqXPW0oBKgg
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>>386540021
definitely, Automata has only like 2 decent songs
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>>386541289
I really really hated that desert theme during my playthrough. It just got really repetitive. Probably the only song I disliked however
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>>386543641
Sometimes the pleb choice is the right one.
But if we exclude that one it's probably the theme park song. It just fits really well and sounds great.
I really can't pick a favorite from the first one though, they all have a fairly similar sound and to really pick one over another just doesn't feel right to me personally.
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>>386543898
Yeah, I saw ending E too.
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>Watched Drakengard universe go to shit
>Hanging around in Nier universe making weapons

Or is it a different Accord? Or just a name?
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>>386544210
Accord is a name of the android line.
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>>386542958
Song of the Ancients is a one in a lifetime vidya song, it can't be topped. It's also the only reason why people think NieR 1 had a god-tier OST.
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>>386542958
They both have top tiers and it's really impossible to decide which ones are better.
Bipolar Nightmare is as fantastic as Song of the Ancients. Vague Hope is as beautiful as Kaine Salvation.
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>>386540327
LMAO THIS IS LITCH THE MOST EPIC POST I EVER DID SEE XXDXDXD

(You) SURE GOT ME XDXDX I ASM BASTITED XXDXDX
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>>386545673
you ok bud?
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>>386545960
i am just le epical /v/ poster!!!! ;)

nothing to see!!!
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>Hearing "Colour of Depression" for the first time in-game
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>>386540327
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>>386540021

I don't think anyone would disagree. Automata reuses a lot of songs anyway.
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>>386540327
too obvious, anon
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>>386540439
I can't tell if this is bait, but I unironically agree.
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>>386540021
What about Drakengard 3?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axT_RojfaRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGbja6xxM2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QIwhiStfBE
https://youtu.be/bij0F7kVe-o

Is it worth playing, anyway?
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I think NieR is just straight up better than Autimata.

>more enjoyable characters and cast
>better OST
>better bosses
>better world and level design

The only thing Automata does better is core gameplay.
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>>386548261
Can´t wait to play it. Automata was easily in my Top10 of all time and I already got a copy of Gestalt lying around here. I´m still hoping for a remastered PC port. If nothings announced during TGS, I just play the PS3 version.
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Drakengard 4 when
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>>386548261
I think that they forced Taro to tone down his gimmicks in Automata. It's a tame game compared to his previous ones.
I mean look at Kaine, she's much more fanservice than 2B ever was.
And in Drakengard 3 you play as a literal ex-prostitute.
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>>386540021
Just nostalgia.
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>>386548691
Sometimes, toning down isn´t a bad idea. Just look at Kojima.
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>>386548691
Automata had a nice balance of Taro weird shit and deep stuff that makes you think.
>>386549159
Kojima is a good example of what you get when you don't have any critical voices around you to keep you in check. Kojima surrounds himself with people that idolize him and are afraid to tell him "this is fucking stupid." Every interview with him is the same thing "I was very worried no one would like or understand my new quirky story since it's so unique haha, but actually they all loved it and thought it was sugoi!"
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>>386550164
This.Having no one to keep your shit in check is the main reason why so many Kickstarter-games turned out to be underwhelming.
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>all those people hyping a Caim cameo

i just want to see him again
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>>386542958
Let it rip out your heart and stomp on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm-X7KBBacM
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>>386549159
Taro and Kojima are very different types of people. Taro's zaniness serves a purpose, Kojima pushes boundaries for fun
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how's automata run on launch ps4?
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>>386548084
For better or for worse it's Taro's most out there game.
The core gameplay isn't bad and when it works it can feel good to play but you will be fighting the framerate most of the time, especially if you summon Mikhail.
I'd say go for it but if you don't want to play it, don't just go watch a lets play like a retard.
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>>386540439
Automata's normal soundtrack is a complete mess composition wise and is only if note because it's grandiose instrumentation is uncommon in video games
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>>386540021
>these sounds are better than those sounds

music is the most worthless thing to argue about. there's literally no valid argument you can make.
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>>386552713

Not really, you can come to a general consensus because humans have a decent subconscious understanding of music
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>>386552713
some longitudinal waves are objectively better than others
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>>386548518
If Automata was truly in your top 10 you won't be disappointed because your very easily impressed
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>>386540021
nier is better than a tomato in general
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>>386552546
Seems good. I heard of the technical problems and I´d have to import the game, but I think I´ll give it a go. I don´t watch Let´s Plays, ever.

>>386552982
Possibly
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>new game is released
>shit eating contrarians and nostalgiafags crawl out from the bushes
like clockwork
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>>386553729
>no argument
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>>386553729
more like "new game released on PC"
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>>386542236
The song has three variations. When you fight the robots pre-Adam, when you're with the religious robots and the robot who wants to be a master fighter
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>>386553729
>good game gets released
>said game gets popular
>contrarians and edgelords starts hating it
like clockwork
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuug I really want to play Replicant instead of Gestalt.
There's just something about playing as a quiet and reserved self insert fuckboi that really takes me into a game.
Pic related. Two games I absolutely adore because of this.
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>>386553291
Assuming it's not the JP version you're importing play with the JP voices if you can, 8-4 did a character assassination on Zero when localising.
You'd be reading dubtitles but it's better than nothing.
It's payed dlc though so I don't blame you if you don't.
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>>386540021
I agree, but they were both great so who cares.You Tarofags seem to be unable to like more than one thing
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>Automata is almost completely forgotten about in my mind and its only been months since I played
>Nier is still fresh in my mind even though I haven't played since 2011.

Automata was an ok attempt at a sequel, but it felt like a hallowed out shell of one.
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>>386555524
This.
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>>386548261
I only played the two games recently, but I cannot see that other people see in NieR. I think it's a fine game, but its qualities aren't nearly as good as people make them out to be and its flaws aren't nearly as bad. The only things about it that I found really noteworthy were the OST, the little touches it had like Devola singing the Song of the Ancients, the lore and the way it would mix up its genres. The story was nothing special and neither were the characters, it didn't have memorable visuals, having route B be different was cool but the new stuff that came with route B wasn't that amazing. I feel like all you people played a different game to me, because NieR just feels like an average action RPG with a few neat gimmicks and above average writing to me.
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