StarCraft "Remastered"

>>386523380
blizzard btfo

>>386523380
Yet kajillions of Koreans will buy it anyway and Blizzard employees will all buy new sports cars. I'm sure your personal misgivings are highly relevant.

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>slightly darker
>Literally only thing updated is the portraits and half of them ruin the atmosphere of the game

The original looks better solely because the remaster makes everything weirdly out of place. Sprites aren't fitting with the enviroment anymore.

>>386523715
what a shitty gif

>>386523380
crossplay with the original is retarded, it's much easier to hack the original

>>386523380
>they're making it seem like you're buying a whole new updated version of StarCraft
Actually, they're pretty upfront about it. They even tell you plainly that you don't have to get this update to play people who have it, and that it's a graphical update. If you don't like the idea of it, you're not forced to get it.

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>>386523380
if you're going to be making a shitty bait thread at least put some effort into it OP, I can't even tell if you're trying to sound stupid on purpose as a joke.

also
>minor graphical update
Every single unit, map, and portrait has been remodeled/textured/rendered from scratch at 4k resolution. If that's "minor" to you I'm not sure what you really want. Balance patches? The BW community would have had a fucking fit if they'd changed absolutely anything beyond the graphics.

Even if blizzard is a shitcunt jew company, this is probably one of the best remasters done so far and for $15, one of the cheapest. Compare this to paying 40$ for a silent hill remaster that actually somehow looks worse than the original.

>>386524489
>Every single unit, map, and portrait has been remodeled/textured/rendered from scratch at 4k resolution
yeah and it looks like shit

>>386523380
What do you think "remastered" means?

>>386523380
>So the reality is that you're just paying $15 for a minor graphical update.
They've literally said that was the case from the fucking beginning. Don't blame the devs for you being retarded. It was a fucking selling point that they weren't going to change the gameplay at all.

And really, do you trust billzard to "update" the mechanics of starcraft 1?

>>386524489
>Every single unit, map, and portrait has been remodeled/textured/rendered from scratch at 4k resolution.
Then why does everything look awful?

>>386524537
You must have a pretty low opinion of the original then.... or you are hyper autismo

/thread

>>386524674
>>386524537
Because you are blind and or retarded.

>>386523380
>>386523715
of course if you look at the remaster in 240p it's going to look the same. Compare it in 1080p.

>muh aesthetic
>muh portraits
/v/ as usual being bitter about most retarded shit. The only valid complaint I have is the stupid pre-order skins. Other than that I'm happy to pay 15 dollars to see my favorite rts being brought to current times.
They also made the original free. Go play that if you feel that the remaster isn't worth your time or money.

>>386523680
This. And all they had to do was taking some intern designers and tell them to draw over the old graphics.
They put couple thousand dollars and probably made millions.
Pretty clever if you ask me.

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>>386524489
>this is probably one of the best remasters done so far
How the fuck can you say that? This is easily the laziest "remaster" I have ever seen.

Why is every starcraft community shit

Blizzard forums are a daycare center
Reddit is shit
Teamliquid is no fun allowed and somehow children are still the primary demographic
/vg/ has lost its mind and I have no idea what I'm even reading. Never go in the sc2 thread. Never.
And /v/ hates everything

And jesus the players. Ladder is nothing but sore losers and everyone in UMS has a stick up their ass despite playing glorified party games.

The only thing I really enjoy anymore is watching competitive play

>>386524718
no I'm a video game artist, it looks like shit because you can't just upscale old graphics and expect them to look good because it just makes the lack of proper lighting and shadows ten times more obvious

star craft sucks...

people only give a shit because koreans are retarded about it

>complaining about a $15 for a graphics update of one of the greatest games of all time

I would pay more for the samething for Diablo 1 and 2.

The game looks good in motion. I'm just happy that I can finally witness gook click in modern day resolutions. I don't even play this game.

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>>386524732
forgot image

>>386524674
a few things here and there look worse in the remaster, but you have no concept of how much they could have fucked up that they didn't. Look at something like the FFX remaster.

It's literally the same stuff rendered at a higher resolution. It probably looks worse to you because you imagination filled in a lot of the gaps in the older sprites.

>>386523380
this is a false flag. The op is purposely being retarded by making it seem like his actual opinion is that blizzard being upfront about selling a 15 dollar graphic rehaul is a bad thing so that everyone viewing this will think, "oh well they are honest about it so really op is a faggot and they gave us a good game for free with an option to pay for some small aesthetics". Meanwhile a bot that is posting this every day adds $19.32 to an overseas bank account and op sucks his own dick and blizzard makes more money.
Also op is a faggot this seems like a good deal

>>386524841
Are you seriously going to continue posting low res comparison screenshots where everything is blurry as fuck and go "look I can't tell the difference"

When did Starcraft go free to play and what did it cost before it was free?

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>>386524891
>Can't just upscale
>When they are entirely redrawn
I see, you could have just said you are retarded.

>>386525084
like $10 for the anthology. It went free when they announced this.

>>386525103
I meant an artistic upscale dumbass, not literally the same image resized but the same art redrawn at a higher resolution

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WTF THIS BARELY LOOKS ANY DIFFERENT

>>386523380
>Release a free remaster of a classic game that was loved by the esports community
>In an effort to recoup the costs of the FREE release, they offer a graphics pack for money that is totally optional and won't gate your access to playing with the rest of the community

Is this seriously the kind of thing people complain about now?

There are SO MANY THINGS to legitimately whine about with modern actiblizz and you're complaining about this??

>>386525196
Just because you hate the original art then doesnt mean the remaster looks bad.

>>386525486
I don't hate the original art, it's pretty good, the remaster looks like shit though

>>386525556
So then you do hate the original art since the remaster simply looks better.

>>386525447
>>In an effort to recoup the costs
Blizzard doesn't need to recoup any costs let alone the 5 minutes of work it would take to get sc to run on modern pcs better

>>386525196
Are you actually retarded

>>386525605
No I don't, I already posted why it looks like shit, learn to read

>>386525706
>hurr durr somebody uses a word in a context I don't understand they must be wrong

>>386525752
You're wrong because you're retarded

The art is redone. It's not an upscale.

>>386525864
It's upscale, except it's a done by a human instead of an algorithm, which a few artistic liberties. You're only used to using the word 'upscale' for machine upscales.

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>>386525645
>Gives you a free game
>Have the option to pay for new artwork
>RRRRREEEEEEEEE HOW DARE A COMPANY WANT TO GET MONEY FOR INVESTING IN A PRODUCT
>>386525752
All you posted is that you dislike the way the original art looks like because of the lack of proper lighting and shadows, which is why you dislike the remasterd art because it's like the original art.
>>386525942
So you still don't know what you are talking about, you can just admit instead of making a fool of yourself.

>>386525942
>except it's a done by a human instead of an algorithm,

redrawn, just like you bitched for

>You're only used to using the word 'upscale' for machine upscales.

Because english is my first language

You're literally trying to backpedal by switching the definitions of two words like we're not going to notice that you're retarded. Just stop talking about things you don't have a clue about instead.

>>386526030
It looks like shit because when art is at a low res like the original, your brain fills in the missing detail, so when you redo the same art at a higher res it looks bad. You see the lack of proper shadows, simple lighting and bad scene composition and it looks wierd. If they had changed the artstyle people would have given it shit so it's going to be bad either way but redrawn art at a higher res rarely looks good

>>386526130
>Because english is my first language
more like 4chan is your first language and you only know the use of the word in consumer speech, if an artist is redrawing something at a higher res we often call it an upscale

>>386526234
It looks like shit in both low and high res, you just now noticed it because 4k graphics with a 90's standard for 3D graphics is anachronistic

But you also know why they can't change that. So what are we lamenting here?

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>>386526234
So yes, you are indeed just saying the original art is shit. The redrawn art adds in the missing details making it look way better without changing how it feels.

>>386523380
it's gonna have matchmaking

if it works at least a little bit, that alone will be worth the price of admission

>>386526337
>we

Retardists such as yourself?

You had no idea the art was redone from scratch and you're not getting out of it. Shut up

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>>386523380
Blizzard made the original free, how is any of this a scam?

>>386526560
Because a normal OP about how the remaster is "fine" would go strait to page 10

>>386526458
>So yes, you are indeed just saying the original art is shit
No I'm not, you're not understanding what I've explained twice so either you're stupid or being deliberately obtuse

>>386526436
The original starcraft looks alright. Different things work at different resolutions and different standards for the time period, as you pointed out, I'm just saying the remaster looks like shit and it's shitty commerical move by Blizzard to renew interest in their dying game releasing an awkward product

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>>386526560
Because nu/v/ hates on everything for no reason and just wants to shitpost and bait.

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>>386526653
I understand you completely, you hate how the original art looks like so by extension also dislike the remastered art. Just because you hate blizzard and what to shitpost with no basis or arguments doesn't mean that you now actually like the original art that you still dislike.

>>386526796
I think the original art looks fine, I don't think the remaster looks good. I provided an argument as to why, to which you can say nothing about except putting words in my mouth I didn't say

I think the remaster is fine for 15 bucks, but I probably won't buy it.
I don't think the graphics are straight up bad, but they are decidedly more cartoonish. I guess the low res hid that.

>>386526030
it's overpriced for merely being artwork. if it were just a game listed as free with a "better sprites" DLC sold for fifteen dollars, nobody would buy it. but if you label it as REMASTERED™ people will pay more for the same content.

>>386526653
>and it's shitty commerical move by Blizzard to renew interest in their dying game releasing an awkward product

Businesses make commercial moves, who knew.

This is actually a good deal for the consumer though, so whats the problem? Adds a ladder and improves spectating, It'll life support brood war in korea for another 5 years. For 15 bucks.

>>386526667
>enhanced narrative
>"Oh I always loved you Kerrigan"
please no.

>>386526872
what on earth do you expect from a "REMASTERED™" game apart from better graphics? That's exactly what a remaster is. Anything else is a remake or a re-imagining.

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>>386526862
No you don't, the only argument you gave is to why you dislike the original art, so why are you trying to lie so obviously about it?
>>386526872
Because better sprites isn't all the remaster is, see >>386526667

>>386523380
>remaster looks the same as the original if you downscale till to the original resolution

so they did their job right?

you also get matchmaking by the way.

>>386526960
I really, really hope they don't try to retroactively tie BWs story to SC2 by adding in anything. I won't be playing this for the story at least, anyway. Just the multiplayer. I have original BW for that.

>>386526872
>it's overpriced for merely being artwork.

It had to be overhauled to run and render on modern systems in 4k. We know because they literally broke everything before fixing it. Battlenet is totally modernized with matchmaking. If you think it's a sprite swap you're retarded.

>They give you a game for free
>You have the option of paying for better graphics but you don't have to and can play the whole game for fucking free
>WHAT A SCAM

Could you be any more of an entitled, sniveling little cunt?

>>386523380
that image should just be named "console vs pc"

>>386524862
Korea time is still fun.

>>386526667
>Cloud Saves
>Remastered Dialogue and Audio
>"""""Remastered""""" Graphics up to 4k with Widescreen support
improvements
>Matchmaking
ehhhhh
>& Leaderboards
fine
>Enhanced Narrative
are we supposed to know what this means
>Presale Unlocks
>13 Languages
turbokikery

>>386527085
I believed other people in the thread saying it's a sprite swap, which is a distinct kind of retarded

>>386527047
Increasing the resolution of the artwork without changing the lighting and shadows makes things look janky and wierd. The lack of detail that you wouldn't notice because of the low resolution suddenly becomes glaringly obvious. It's partly a cultural perception of how video games looked in a certain era and partly the objective way your brain processes an image. Some things just look flat out worse like the more detailed textures and lack of shadowing here >>386524489 makes it much hard to discern the shapes

>>386527148
>muh entitlement
cry me a kotaku article

Custom maps are gonna shit or non existent huh

So play the original game then if you think it's such a scam, this is exactly why they made it free.

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>>386527290
Which is exactly why they added the missing details to the remastered artwork to make it look better.
The post you linked only shows that the original barely shows what the unit is supposed to be when you zoom in while the remaster actually looks like what it's supposed to be. If you say that the left is better you must be retarded or blind, objectively.

>>386527673
I'm not complaining about the form of the new art, which is fine, I'm complaining at the lack of shadows, which looks alright at the low resolution of the original but looks horrible at the higher resolution of the new one. This is like the fifth time I'm repeated this and you still fail to understand what I'm saying. In terms of being able to tell where the ground, wall and lurker is, the left convey that information much more clearly

>>386523380
>Yet they're making it seem like you're buying a whole new updated version of StarCraft
No they dont.

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>He doesn't have a CRT Monitor to play the original at its native resolution and look sexy

>>386527867
The left doesn't convey that at all, you really are just imagining things and using that excuse to say that it looks better.
>Well it doesn't look good but if I think it's something else it does look good but I can't do that when the art actually resembles something up close.

>>386528076
Now you're just replying with gibberish because you have no idea how to criticize artwork

>>386528167
Do you? You are claiming that mess of pixels somehow shows position more clearly when you can barely see what shape it has or what direction it is even looking at.

>>386527301
>I heard that word somewhere else so I don't care if it's appropriate in present context

Put a gun in your mouth, faggot.

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>Try to change the game in any way
>"WTF ITS NOT THE SAME REEEEEEEEEEEEE"
>Just upgrade the graphics slightly
>"WTF ITS THE SAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

>>386523380
>they're changing the portraits
So is Raynor still the fat bald fuck he was in the original or is he now his hobo incarnation from SC2?

>>386528354
i can reply to your post for free, but for the low price of fifty dollars, i'll also jam my penis in your eye socket and fuck you until you bleed to death. see, it's not a scam because i'm not making you buy it.
put a gun in your mom's mouth, then put a gun in your dad's mouth, then you're allowed to put a gun in your mouth. you might suffocate just from sticking it in, though. clearly, you can only breathe through your mouth.

>>386526870
I like it but I wont buy it either. I spent a few years playing the hell out of it. Not much joy to be squeezed out of it anymore.

>>386528372
Which one, single person said this, anon?

>>386528514
Nu/v/ never fails to deliver with the absolute worst analogies a human can think off

>>386528514
>i can reply to your post for free, but for the low price of fifty dollars, i'll also jam my penis in your eye socket and fuck you until you bleed to death. see, it's not a scam because i'm not making you buy it.

Reasonable simile.

>>386523380
So, why did Blizzard become so fucking jewish.

You can barely get them to make a raid dungeon with all the ultra-gold they earn from WoW (like some ridiculous several hundred million a year).

Now they just upscale the resolution and slap a twenty dollar price on a fucking patch for a game that's already both available in retail and supported with servers.

>>386528372
I don't understand the point of it. But then again all PC remasters are fucking stupid.

>>386524949

That updated probe avatar portrait looks like compete shit.

Instead of babbling about pointless shit, pay attention to the following

>blizz putting some effort into SC1 again

could it be so that they realize that casualized as fuck shit like SC2 isn't as exciting as esport compared to SC1 with the return of ASL and all

>>386528372
It's simple.

Don't do stupid fucking remasters. Use your money in a productive and original way instead of fueling this abortion of a practice.

>>386525605

I cant tell if this guy is trolling, or 100% clinically and legitimately mentally retarded.

>>386528847
It's Valve's fault, really. Once TF2 demonstrated the success of crates, game companies shifted from producing quality products to producing subscription services. A game is no longer commercially viable for a big company to just make it and sell it once.

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>tfw /v/ doesnt know what a remaster is and constantly confuse it with remake

>>386528514
by popular demand i'm going to rerelease it as 'rape you to death: remastered™' with high definition remastered™ graphics and a chinese localization

>>386529094
Blizzard is everything I personally hate about a developer, but as a pragmatic individual, I can't fault them for any of their decisions.

A million people will buy this remaster of SC despite their being no effort put into it and the original package still being more than playable (the rts genre has barely evolved past it).

Millions buy loot crates in Overwatch.

You can't fault anyone for parting a fool from his money.

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>>386525259
it's all the same famalam, they literally want shekels for nothing

Remaster u dumb fuck

It now supports 4k UHD widescreen, new shaders/lighting effects (hard on 2d), and completely redone sprites and portraits

They did an amazing job. What would you expect? Did you want broodwar in 3d?

>>386523380
>SCV is suddenly black now
>people shilling for blizz claiming he was always black

WE

>>386530039
desu i always saw a mexican with the scv

Looks good to me. When can I expect Bethesda to do this for Fallout 1&2?

>>386523380
I feel like you need a microscope to notice the differences

>>386523380
anyone know if the portraits are animated?

>>386523380
I'm sorry, isn't that good?

A remaster should try and preserve as much of the original's visual style and elements, while updating them to modern resolution standards. It's not a remake.

So they didnt fix the games unit engine preventing Valkries from attacking 80% of the time if too much is happening because of the stupid missile smoke trails needing unused unit 'slots' is what you are saying?

Because fuck I am apparently still sslty about that

>>386528674

You understand nothing, Anon?

>>386530939
they fixed that actually

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>>386530698
yeah, they're all re-rendered and animated.

generally speaking, terran look great, zerg look okay and protoss look worse. Way too SC2-ish. The high templar is probably the worst, they made him less spooky. I guess they were trying to make them consistecy

https://youtu.be/iM2YFTVZig8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hatpIH-DOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU-_SW0OQc4&t=197s

New Valk is 10/10 though.

>So the reality is that you're just paying $15 for a minor graphical update.

welcome to remasters

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I don't actually care because BROODWAR IS BACK BABY

I have missed Korea Time so much

>>386530939
That only happened during endgame though. They actually used valks during this ASL and the previous one before the patch was implemented (or rather, they yanked it after one set of matches).

The meta is still evolving.

>>386523380
What is the pre-order bonus supposed to be?

It looks worse and is quite ugly might I add
Also cant distinguish the blizzdrones from the paid shills anymore
gj /v/

>>386531585
Holy hell, those videos are like misinterpreted sprite threads.

Hardly any of those translated well or even tried to be remotely close to the original model. How do you mess up Jim THAT bad?

>>386530039
>WE
...wuz construction workers?
Really? Are you really complaining about niggers being construction workers?

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>>386524489
>worse than the original

It's not so bad compared to pic related.

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>>386531706
lol, somebody saved one of my shitty korea time OCs. I'm the guy who usually makes the korea time threads so I'm glad this remaster was announced. hopefully there'll be a few more viewers since it'll be the first big tournament on SCR

I want WC 2 remastered with better online please.

>>386532202
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Some of them are way off but overall I would say I like most. Some of them I would say are spot on like the Wraith or the Goliath. I think a lot of the looks of the orignial portraits were just how they turned out rather than conscious design. I'm sad that the firebat doesn't have an insane thousand yard stare anymore though. He always had the look of somebody whose literal job was to torch zerglings.

Protoss are pretty crappy though. They to not be afraid to cover up sections in block shadows like the templar's face or the ghost.

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Wanna turn up the heat?

>>386529838
>bluring the updated graphics

>20 years and a whole remaster later
>Scout will still be useless for anything except bming an opponent

>>386533039
Any idea when the new SSL classic or ASL tourneys start streaming?

>>386533787

Presumably they're waiting for Remastered to be up and running.

>>386533672
Technically the scout is such a good counter that the units it counters never get made in the match up (they are end tech resource sink units to be fair)

>>386533787
I would predict october/november for ASL4, going from the previous seasons. SSL, who knows? I think a lot of companies want to be starting proper BW tournaments again like OGN. I'm pretty sure they hosted the SCR launch event so I'm imgining they'll have one in the works.

>>386534205
it's essentially so good at its job it removes itself from the meta without having to be built. Truly it is the peak broodwar unit.

I think they should just pay Flash to go into the military for a year. He's dominating too much, and it's no fun. At first he was a little rusty, so I thought that it'd be competitive, but after he got back into top form he's as good as he ever was. In contrast, most players are only 50-75% as good as they used to.

>>386533319
what gets me about the protoss is that just about everyone of them was a different colour or obviously different facial structure in the original, but now it looks generally like the same dude in different sets of armor.

i will say though i really liked the closer to 1:1 recreations like ultralisk, firebat, wraith and goliath.

>>386523380
And? It's blizzard... is this somekind of big revelation news or something?

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>>386526796
Sauce on mango ass, i need it for my homework

>>386528950
Literally how?
It looks exactly the same as the other one but at a different angle.

>>386527236
you're one dumb bastard

>>386523680
>kajillions of Koreans
Thought Koreans ditched Starcraft and LoL was their new autism drug

>>386523380
BLIZZED™

>>386524891
>no I'm a video game artist
Post your portfolio. Does it have tits or aesthetic backgrounds

>>386534489
How does he do it?

>>386532202
the portraits were the one area where they had some freedom to do whatever, every other actual piece of in-game art had to look exactly like the original, so i understand why they did it.

>>386535830

I have no idea. I've never seen one person dominate a scene like he does and as consistently. Well, Prime Jaedong could beat him, but JD isn't Prime anymore. Flash never gets rusty. It's like he was designed by the Gods to be the perfect starcraft player. And there's no Team Houses or infrastructure to bring in new players too, so we're stuck with the old legends for now.

>>386533787
ASL starts 29/8

>>386530939
terran is already the best race though

>>386531706
>mirror matches

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>give original away for free
>offer graphical upgrade for a fee that is completely optional and doesn't split the player base
>this is somehow a bad thing
Do you ever get tired of getting mad at literally everything?

>>386529130
this

>port
same game on a different platform

>remaster
same game with major functionality and/or visual upgrade

>remake
completely new game with the same name and premise

I hate the current Korean Meta right now.

Before:
>TvT were epic siege line fights and strategic chess matches

Now:
>TvT is fast acting matches reliant on Wraiths

Before:
>TvZ were reenactments of Starship troopers with mass Medic Marine armies vs. Zerg in an exciting back and forth match.

Now:
>T goes Mech and wins

>>386523380
I said this a month ago. Its basically paying for a free game.

>>386523380
Right reminds me of the graphics quality of these old type of rts/civ style games that existed 20 ish years ago

>koreans too autistic and poor to play anything else but sc1
>everyone else in the world moves on
>HAHA we are the best at sc1 in the world!
>shhh not now gook we're playing CSGO
>fast forward to the present
>they have an Overwatch pro scene
>Blizzard makes the Korean girl mascot have a relationship with a black brazilian

Hahahahahaha can't breath hahahahaha

>>386533562
thats the joke do u haf autism

>>386538090
>tfw Starcraft reached its peak with Flash vs Jaedong matches

>>386528372
Go away Sam, you abandoned your original art style. Now go back to unironically chanting death metal lyrics about stomping queers at family events.

>>386538090
It is a shitty meta, especially for Zergs, but I think it's somewhat fascinating that a game this old still has an evolving game. I'd wait to see if some players can come up with solutions for modern TvZ instead of waving it off as a solved match-up that will favour Terrans when it reaches the mech stage.

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>>386533417
Need a light-ehskuh?

It's really funny how the only people who are whining about SCR are the ones who don't play Starcraft in the first place.

$15 for a graphical update isn't bad, they could have you know, just not do it, SC1 is still free.

People who play SC1 don't want modern blizzard to fuck anything up.

>>386541860
Well they also included a proper ladder game search function and rating system that isn't kinda clunky etc.

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>>386526667
Yes this is totally something new that has happened and hasnt been a theme since 2005.

>>386524489
I don't have a problem with the in-game graphics, but the portraits have been near total garbage so far.
>retconning Raynor and Kerrigan into their SC2 versions instead of just updating the clarity of the originals
>Terrans in general have too many WHOA SCI-FI DUDE holograms spewing out from their helmets, disregarding how they originally had Aliens-esque CRT monitor type tech with keypads and static-y screens
>Vulture in particular looks like shit, replaced the sleazy shades with welding goggles and dropped the beard
>SCV is a straight up negro instead of a mongoloid mixling with a fat nose
>Protoss lost their atmospheric shadows, faces look too similar to each other
>Zerg are mostly ok, but Zergling specifically got changed for no good reason, no longer resembles an alien velociraptor

Are they redoing the cutscenes too? I wouldn't mind giving Blizzard 15 shekels to replay SC1 and BW again. I'm not a fan of the new portraits.

>>386523380
post an uncompressed screenshot instead. The remaster looks a lot better while still looking like Starcraft. The big thing with the remaster is the matchmaking with ladders and ranking.

>>386523380
tell me something I didn't know since they announced remastered months ago fagget