What's a good stick

>>386513943
madcatz makes good ones that are easily moddable when your console inevitably becomes outdated

>>386513943
Qanba make quality sticks. If you want one with a Korean lever, you can either put one in yourself or get that etokki omni stick, I've heard it's great.

>>386514071
Oh boy, do I have some bad news for you.

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>>386513943
my dick

Generally any mass produced stick over $100 is going to use legit arcade parts and is considered "good".

>>386514071
>makes
heh.

what do you guys think about hori pro 4 kai? it's good?

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>>386514348
>>386514776
just looked it up, how the fuck did this happen?
does that make my sf4 sticks slightly more valuable?

>>386514776
>Generally any mass produced stick over $100 is going to use legit arcade parts and is considered "good".

Pretty much what this guy said. Sanwa parts are the most popular in the FGC crowd. I prefer the stiffer feel of Seimetsu stuff and they also feel good with shooters. With that said Hori makes use of their own parts that are pretty good.

>>386514442
ignore this man

my dick is better

>>386514071
madcats bent bankrupt

>>386513943

qanba q4 if you play on PC

>>386515225
it might be fine, but it's no my dick.

>>386513943
Are arcade sticks worth getting for emulating 2d platformers

>>386515138
Turns out the company that made one good product and tons of shit wasn't doing so well.

Also they invested in RB4 heavily which couldn't have paid off for them.

I doubt your stick is worth any more. Maybe an OG TE in perfect condition will be a nostalgia item some day.

>>386515134

Probably the cheapest stick that's not garbage out of the box. Easy to mod so when you get sick of those buttons, you can substitute them for Sanwa. Good beginner stick for sure.

>>386514071
F

>>386515138
>does that make my sf4 sticks slightly more valuable?
Unlikely. They're last gen sticks.

Also, the stick and buttons may have been made by Sanwa but the PCB's were still made by MadCatz. They're probably not not long for this world...

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>>386513943
>baseball bat top

>>386513943
I'm a huge sperg and play with the stick on my hrap4 really hard so sometimes I get accidental inputs, so also really considering the omni.
It's pretty expensive because I'm in canada though, so I'm going to get a bat top and octo gate to see how I handle diagonals before making the investment.

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>>386515671
ball top are for yankees and japs

>>386515697
*so I'm also really considering the omni

>>386515671
>personal preference

>>386515323
Maybe we should trade samples?

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I want a hitbox but I don't play enough to bother investing.

>>386515952
just use your keyboard then

>>386515697
You know you can just put a worst Korean stick in your hrap right? They sell em in several US and nip online stores.

>>386515652
Just replace the PCB.

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>>386513943
Depends on your price range. If it's $200+ its literally up to preference since there's multiple sticks at this price range with pros and cons.

I personally went with the Qanba Obsidian as I got it during the EVO sale. All in all it feels pretty damn good, but a metal ball top and tiny start/select buttons take a bit to get used to.

>>386515697
just do what I did for my hrap4kai and get a bat top and a 2lb spring for the stick

the 2lb spring makes the real difference

>>386516150
Oh are there korean sticks that fit in a japanese mount or whatever? I don't need to mod anything?

>>386516194
Indeed, I've had to. But if he's thinking that the stick is going to somehow be a collector's item with an aftermarket PCB, he is going to be disappointed.

>>386516336
I'd also like the korean because it returns to neutral faster, it would help with KBDing and wavedashing
Does the spring solve the accidental inputs problem? I heard some people saying the hayabusa didn't feel as good with a different spring

>>386516284
why the obsidian over any of the other sticks from eightarc?

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Post stick

>>386516519
big problem with the hrap4kai is how sensitive and light it is imo (mostly a personal thing), 2lb spring makes it stiffer which I like a lot more. Prevents the "hitting forward sometimes causes a back input because of how sensitive it is" problems

but I could just be a pleb so who knows

>>386516601
Obsidian has sanwa parts in it, unlike the Drone or Crystal. The Dragon is too expensive and weighs a ton, so that just leaves me with the Obsidian.

Also I like the aesthetic of it.

>>386516391
The cwl-309mj-kms-st25 from Crown will fit japanese mounts, but none are in stock on focusattack right now. You might be able to find them somewhere else.

>>386516935
Thanks
Do you know many other north american fight stick sites? I know I could probably get it from etokki but I think that would be coming all the way from korea
Also how does a 309mj stack up to a myoungshin or taeyoung fanta?

since madcatz bit the dust, what's a stick that both has build quality and is good for custom art?

>>386513943
The one you posted.

>>386517072
see>>386517073
They have a sanwa edition too.

>>386517296
Looks sharp. Simple black means we can put anything on those.

>>386517069
Paradise arcade shop has a similar model number from crown they say is compatible in nip sticks. As far as how they stack up I would say to look on shoryuken.

>>386517296
>>386517395
Does this company restock fairly frequently?

>>386517802
I found it on paradise arcade shop, thanks

Am I the only one who uses a semitsu ls-40? My stick came with a JLF and it has always felt loose and with way too long of a throw for me.

>>386515134
i've had it for a couple of months now. im enjoying it alot, its my first stick btw.

>>386518117
The shorter throw on the is-40 is nice, but for a lot of people it'd be an acquired taste. Most of the sticks that people lend out at locals are using JLFs, and if you lend/borrow a lot that's what you get used to.

My peanus weanus of course

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>>386513943
>>386514164
this

see pic, Qanba Q1 for cheap price and works fine
The little back shit detaches completely and then you can use it on a table if your autism peaks

obviously you can replace buttons and stick as well and probably wanna replace the stick to be honest

>>386517890
It takes them a while sometimes unfortunately, so if you want one and get the chance i'd get it, because they sell fast.

>>386515867
You all could waste time doing that, or we could all settle here and now on my dick.

>>386518639
How's the stock buttons on the Q1? I picked up a Qanba Drone last year and found the stock buttons did not absorb force nicely, making your fingers ache after 20 minutes of use.

Replacing them with sanwa buttons fixed that issue, and at the time it was still much cheaper than a TE2/TES ($80 + buttons vs $250).

>>386518991
shit, you want to replace the stick and buttons right away.

>>386514071
>madcatz mades overpriced ones

>>386513943
The one attached to your mom.

>>386518673
I'm checking out a video of the inside and it looks nice. I just wish the USB cable were as easy to swap out as everything else.

http://www.etokki.com/Crown-CWJ-303A-Clear-Red
What kind of wiring does an HRAP4 have?
Because the description of this 303a says "If your current Japanese joystick utilizes a 5-pin plastic connector for wiring, you will need this conversion harness to install the joystick." so do I need that?

Are there any normal sized pads that have two sticks?

>>386519424
the dualshock 4

>>386519301
yeah, you'll need the harness
easy to install, though
just throw it on the korean stick and it'll connect the same as a sanwa/seimitsu

>>386513943
none, they are all just a placebo effect and are not actually better for fighting games than controllers

>>386519546
Thanks amigo

>>386519548
1) This is a type of controller.
2) The arcade style allows you to use more fingers, so it is more efficient in that regard.
3) It's still personal preference.

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>>386513943
I really like this one but many people complain the buttons get malfunctioning really fast (which thankfully hasn't happened to me after 1.5 years of use).

Swapping them is trivial anyway

>>386519548
I just use them because my thumb hurts on pad, but I do think some things are objectively better
The have really short travel and actuation or whatever
You can use all of the fingers on your right hand for them so multi button inputs are easier

>>386520180
>rap V
im still using Rap 3 to play Tekken 7 today

>>386520237
*The buttons have really short travel

>>386519548
I bet you're that guy who thought buying a stick would make you instantly good and then threw a tantrum you found out you still had to practice.

>tfw hands become real sweaty when use a fightstick
>have to wipe it every 5 minites

Shit sux

>>386513943
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bat top

>>386520456
I find placing a cloth/towel under your wrists helps the situation a little bit. Your mileage might vary, though.

>>386520456
Maybe ur hands are just sweaty because of the game
or ur a fat fuck

>>386520585
More like I don't use the stick that very often and get nervous during matches to not fuck shit up because of it

>>386520509
Yes, it's very popular with koreans especially for tekken.

>>386519548
I'm not drill canceling on a 360 pad, thank you very much

I've got the Xrd -Sign- LE stick, works fine, but it has this retarded gimmick were the ball top can just be unscrewed just like that, unlike other sticks were you need to open them up from the inside. Whenever I do a couple of specials I end up unscrewing it up a bit and have to screw it during combos or knockdowns, pretty annoying.

>>386520686
then use the stick more bitch

>>386519548
Try playing Arakune or Carl on a fucking pad, cunt.

>>386513943
I managed to pick up a brand new TE Round 2 SFIV stick for only $100 on ebay. It's great, I replaced all the button with Sanwa's foam buttons to reduce the sound and a new stick and ball.

I would recommend it given the Round 2 has the updated PCB and it's so easy to mod.

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what do you guys think about the HORI Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai ?

>>386514164
are korean bat tops different from american ones?

>>386521636
haven't used the hori buttons/stick but I like the case and more space between the stick and buttons is always good

>>386521767
yes

>>386521636
My friend bought one when SFV had just come out. He ended up replacing the lever and buttons because the stock ones were not very comfortable at all.

A decent base stick if you just need something to put parts in for under $100, but probably not my first pick for a PS4 stick. It's quite lightweight and tends to slide around if your inputs are wild.

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>>386521636
This one

https://www.focusattack.com/hori-real-arcade-pro-n-fightstick-for-sony-ps3-ps4-pc-pre-order/

>>386521968
Real talk, I'm very tempted to buy one of these just for the convenience of the headphone jack. The form factor reminds me of my marvel 2 TE, which I love.

Hayabusa sticks tend to have better tactile feedback than JLFs, and flows a bit more freely. Might take some getting used to, but it's a good lever. I found it harder to use than a JLF/crown for tekken, but great for anime games and SF.

>>386522221
that's what I'd get if I wanted a japanese stick
good button layout, start button cover, good form factor
not quite everything I want in a stick but pretty close

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>Still buying sticks

Devs are making it easier and easier for pad players. Why use a stick?

>>386522853
personal preference omg
fucking use google

>>386513943
can anyone recommend on where to get a hitbox?

>>386522853
>Devs are making it easier and easier for pad players.
How? It's the same shit as always.

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>>386523002
>Personal preference
>When everyone and their mother started off playing vidya with a pad

Nah your just gimping yourself because you think it will somehow make you better.

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>FA Plexiworks is still overbooked until the 15th

Good to know that they're doing well for themselves, but fuck man I just want my Squigly stick.

>>386523170
I'm not even going to humour you
I doubt you even play any fighting games like most retards on /v/ in SFV threads and you don't even know how to use google

>>386523170
>>When everyone and their mother started off playing vidya with a pad
>Not starting off at the arcades
How does it feel to miss out on one of the best vidya experiences?

>>386523216
Forgot to mention. September 15th.

>>386523048
uh
the hitbox website
if you don't like the ones they make there's some finished ones on ebay
jasen's customs also sells kits where you can just put everything together yourself, I've heard it's easy

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such a small detail but these look so sexy

>>386516284
Starting to wish I'd gone with this over the Dragon. I love the weight of the Dragon and the ease of modding but it's uncomfortable as fuck on my wrists.

>>386523048
tons of people sell all button style cases
if you can get foehammer to make you a smaller one that's probably the cheapest nice option

then wire/assemble it yourself not hard at all

>>386523216
What is this, exactly? Art printed on plexi itself? Also what are the rules involving IPs/fan art ownership/etc?

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>>386522853

>>386518991
qanba drone is trash.

where the fuck can I order JLF 2lb and 4lb springs? Is there something equivalent I could pick up at a hardware store

>>386518117
I just ordered an ls-40. I tend to press buttons a little early before I finish my stick wiggling with most sticks and I'm hoping it helps.

I use a Qanba Crystal. The parts aren't actually all that bad but I heard a genuine Sanwa stick knocks it out of the park. How hard would it be to swap it?

>>386523974
Focusattack is where I got my 2lb spring.

Lot of good its doing me now since I switched to a Hayabusa.

>>386519548
Depends on the game for me, Tekken for instance works better on pad because it takes more effort to move on stick.

>>386523974
Paradise Arcade Shop has the widest selection of spring weights but you can get a 2 lb from Focus Attack.

>>386523929
mini sticks are a waste of money and if you are just going to "upgrade a stick". you might as well just buy or make a case and build your own.

>>386523787
Don't know too much about it, sorry mate. FA just straight up removes the pages off their website when they overbook.

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>>386518639
carbon/q1 is a great stick, just get sanwa buttons and joystick

Been planning to buy a Brook Super Converter since I wanna use some of my old 360 sticks on my PS4. It's apparently tournament legal but can anyone confirm if it's a waste of money and/or that I'd be better off buying a PS4 stick?

>>386523130
>Frames are getting a hell of a lot longer, pretty much to kill plinking or any sort of insane levels of practice input control tricks.

>>386524308
I've been meaning to put some custom art over my Q1, how'd you manage?

>>386524026
>>386524183
Focus Attack has been out of stock for them for the entire year every time I've looked.

>>386524406
focusattack, they arent doing artwork right now though, i think their gonna start again in sept

>>386524017
Probably a bit of a hassle if you want to keep the LED elements. There are some tutorials on YouTube you can check first before you decide to go through with the mod.

>>386519301
>>386519546
Ok nvm
I looked into it and 303 seems to have some quality issues
I'm going to get a 309mj instead, would I still need the harness for the hrap4?

>>386524381
You mean in SFV? There's other games y'know.

>>386519548
Underage detected.

>ask for suggestions for a good stick
>everyone talks about modding them and shit
>every goddam time

Im not a fucking electrician or some tryhard, i just want a good stick that already has good buttons and shit. I don't want it to have a hello kitty theme either, believe it or not.

>>386524381
>intentionally put in shit like multiple strength EX moves (this specifically fucks pads), button hold specials, and retarded cancel timing

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>>386524670
>unplug button
>plug in new button

>>386524670
People already suggested a good one, hell the one posted in the OP is a great stick.

>>386524528
not him but what is it that they do exactly? Is it any different from a regular piece of high quality print paper? Also what are the legal rules for the character art?

>>386524670
Qanba Obsidian then.

>>386513943
my dick. your mom can back me up on that one

>>386524670
Depends on your budget, what parts you want, if you're OCD about latency, and what materials you want for the case.

>>386524782
not sure on the exact rules but yeah its just high quality artwork.
i got my artwork and plexi for free

>>386519038
>>386523929
Is it good enough for just arcade game emulation, not fighting games?

>>386524935
okay, print service is nice but it's weird that such a thing could be overbooked.

>>386525013
Well, think about it. EVO was only a month or two ago, and of course they did a sale for it.

>>386524595
They seem to all need the harness, look at the pics of the stick. If each micro switch has contacts sticking out of (the little gold blades) it you need the harness, if they are mounted on a pcb you do not. The harness is not specific to that brand so most places should sell them.

>>386525118
oh, right

>>386524670
Razer Panthera, Qanba Obsidian.

>>386524987
Might be, wouldn't hurt to try it out and switch it out if it doesn't work out, Q1 is only like $100 with all the mods you might need unless you want a new PCB which you should be fine without if it's only for pc.

>>386513943
Anything made by HORI.

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>>386524670
The OP stick (etokki omni) is a great tekken stick, also comes in full sanwa parts if you don't like korean brands or want to use it primarily for other games.

Madcatz TE, fighstick PRO from the 360 era are great, but would mostly be found used because of their age. The TE2 and TE+ are a tad pricey, but the build quality is still there and they're PS4 compatible (the TE+ in particular is great with its easy-open hatch for part swaps).

Another contender mentioned earlier in the thread is Hori's upcoming HRAP N with the Hayabusa parts. Almost looks to be the second coming of the TE.

Is the build quality of the Qanba Q1 good enough to justify getting it for upgrading?

>>386525676
Hori's dropping the Fighting Edge sometime in the next four months too. The HRAP N kind of looks like a cross between a TE and the old fat HRAPs.

>>386525934
Iv'e been waiting for the new fighting edge, is anyone actually sure they are going to release this soon?

>>386525934
the new fighting edge felt so fucking nice to play on i cant fucking wait

>>386526159
>>386526287
They said Q4 this year in a response to a Facebook comment. I love Hori but they are one of the worst when it comes to announcing and releasing new products.

Shot in the dark here but, any tips on removing glue residue?

Used a hair dryer to get the card stock artwork off my Hori RAP3 metal plate.

>>386527258
can't you just use some adhesive remover or would that mess up ur stick

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Considering getting this because I just got into fighting games. From the reviews I have seen looks pretty good and I can just replace the parts for sanwa stuff later. Anyone have one or have tried one?

>>386528023
$50 is a good investment especially when you're going to replace the parts anyway. Go for it.

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STILL WAITING

Is there a guide or pastebin for swapping out parts and how different brands feel?

>>386515278
It jaa Snäll delay

>>386528023
I would just get a decent one off of ebay if that's one of those ones with the super tiny cases
I got my hrap4 for 80 bucks after sniping it with 3 seconds left, guy only used it at two tournaments and I don't think he was lying

>>386528575
I wish there were more info. I've been on a quest to try everything for the last 2-3 years and it would be much easier if there were a sampler shop set up somewhere. I'm close to having tried almost everything at this point and plan on doing something to help other people, maybe video comparisons, once I've finished my testing.

>>386528227
So this is just the Tekken 7 stick but without the branding, right?