What went so terribly wrong?

>>386512504
They listened to the "fans"

They didn't listen to the fans.

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>>386512504
Its actually good, only problem I have is how short it is, but other then that Iv'e gotten my hours.

>>386512504
They smashed 1 into bloodborn and then cut out everything original that might of come out of the fusion.

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>>386512504
Same thing that happened to DaS2. It followed perfection.

>>386512504
Other than rolling being too strong it's fine. Not a masterpiece, but still fine.

>>386512504

Too many bosses with recharging health bars

I'm looking at you Friede

Putting BB fast enemies into DaS slow combat, I guess
Or being short, like 20 hours long

It's a fine game. I guess little bit boring if you already played the other ones.

The DLCs helped with this a bit, but build variety is somewhat scarce. You're going to be more effective with just using a 40 dex/40 str build most of the time than using any builds with spells. Also this >>386512923

>>386512504
poor pacing made it seem shorter than it was, and it's already tied with Demon's for shortest

I'm currently rushing through 2 so I can get to 3 and play a souls game before the multiplayer dies for once

Should I just give up now then?

Every boss spams wide sweeping attacks

>>386512549
This so much this the fans don't know what they want.

>>386512953
That was a great bossfight just for the fact that third round came at you out of nowhere. It was a good fight. The cutscene parts were great. Dudes screams and pounding the flame when she died was great. Dudes dialogue when you walk up and he just meekly asks you to get her was great. Dlc was mediocre but that was a Damn good bossfight.

But I also enjoyed Gael a lot.

>>386512504
A lot of reused assets and ideas.
After BB, DS3 feels dull I think we already have too much of this kind of games.

>>386513057
And half of the game is swamps. Even in the final DLC they had to fit one more swamp in there

>>386512504
Nobody that made it gave a shit about making it. It was made to fulfil a contract, not out of passion or desire.
It's literally phoned in and made by Bamco interns

>>386513151
the multiplayer in 2 is better than it is in 3, unless you especially like rolling, ganks, and staggering

>>386513151
No keep going fag

>>386512504
DeS/DS = Melee Combat/Shields
BB = Melee Combat/Fire Weapons
Next Project = Fire Weapons/Unarmed Combat

A man can dream.

>>386512504
>Replaying after BB

I didn't think the memes were true. Holy shit i wish i was playing BB.

>>386513151
You're rushing though the best of them all.

There's plenty of multiplayer in 1 and 2.

The difference is if you play 3, you're gonna get invaded every couple of minutes in a few high traffic areas. By hackers in the first area, and by multiple people at the same time in the swamp and cathedral. They won't fight you though, they will just shoot arrows at you and backstab you unless you chase them into the giant crabs / narrow ledge archers.

>>386512953
After a few deaths you learn to spot the healing before it happens and it's pretty easy to stop it

>>386513061
They nerfed quality quite a bit actually. I hear this complaint a lot but I've never been sure what people mean by build variety. Everything works pretty well in PvE and PvP is roughly the same with a few outstanding meta options.

>>386512504
PVP is horrible. Fighting alone against 2 invaders who can use flasks is a god damn nightmare
Some bosses have literally glowing weak spots
A lot of enemies rely on ambushing to get shit done
Poise apparently doesn't exist
No upgradeable armor for pure fashion souls bliss
Some enemies have no existent stamina bars and just combo till you die
The fucking dogs. God i hate the dogs.
The only difficult boss I've fought so far was Pontiff

>>386513451
>Fire Weapons/Unarmed Combat
I'd play it

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>>386514027
>No upgradeable armor for pure fashion souls bliss
Uh... what?

I dont think the games short at all, Im level 130 still finding new content, ie nameless king. I havent got the DLCs yet either

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>>386514027
>no poise
good riddance it was a shit mechanic. All it did was lower the interactivity that the player had with enemies and encourage out-trading rather than outplaying the game. Anyone can mash r1 like a retard and heal uninterrupted. The intended challenge of all of the souls games has always been known what to do and when to do it so you don't get ass rammed, poise works against that.

>>386514027
PvP and poise fags are the worse. The game is PvE focused. PvP is just a nice addition. You can't judge a PvE focused game for its PvP. Poise is for shitters who can't play the game and rely on LOL BIG ARMOR AND BIG ASS SWORD to stunlock

The dogs are way better than DS1 dogs.

>Some enemies have no existent stamina bars and just combo till you die
You get as much stamina as the enemies. Git gud

>>386512504
Bloodborne, it ruined the series by turning the Souls games into something they aren't.

>>386514616
>The intended challenge of all of the souls games has always been known what to do and when to do it so you don't get ass rammed, poise works against that.
You could make the same argument against hyper armor too.

>>386512504
Dark Souls 2 and 3 buy into the Prepare to Die meme too much. 3 technically has more evironmental and enemy variety than Bloodborne but it still ended up feeling like a boss rush rather than an adventure.

I loved one two and three and bb no complaints
Fans are just knit picky and for some reason like to shittalk their favorite games when they think its missing a feature or two which its fine without

>>386512504
Ridiculously casualized online
Builds and weapons are horribly balanced
A lot of weird and pointless changed implimented through patches
Linear so a lot of cool shit is closed off for more than 50% of the game

Apart from that it's great.

Its the fifth game in a series and its following bloodborne, the best game/second best in the series.

It feels like a cash in. Demon Ruins is literally copy pasted chalice dungeon assets, like holy shit what? How the fuck is that okay? And then you get out and they greet you with totally-not-watchdog.

>>386515179
you can do dancer, oceiros, champ, and dsa all at the beginning, good for getting bk glaive early

>>386512504
They took a lot of annoying shit from DaS2 and Bloodborne without much consideration

And?
The regular Glaive is just as good and you don't have to chip away at three late-game bosses to get it.

>>386515750
the 1h R2 is cool

>>386515750
>late-game bosses
t. scrub who did high lothric last

Anyone who's played demon souls wanna help me out? Didn't see another souls thread.

I got to the dragon fire spewing bridge in the boletaria palace and suddenly my game has horrible audio stuttering, the framerate is like 6 or 7, and stuff in the levels isn't rendering.

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No enemy variety.

Awful level design.

Shit ton of gimmick bosses.

Tons of reused content from previous games.

It's shit.

>>386516026
No, Anon. That's actually what they are. It's also common knowledge that Dancer can be done early, and pretty much everyone does it for the Chain now anyway.
You're not impressing anyone.

>>386516206
>impressing
easy with the implications there, pansy boy

>>386516095
>implying des and ds1 weren't 75% gimmick bosses
ds3 has how many out of 19 total? treenuts, sage maybe, deacons, wolnir, archdragon, and halflight.

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>>386516280
>He actually thinks early Dancer is hard and is trying to brag about it
Keep it up, pansy boy.

>>386514616
>>386514746
>poise is bad
Poise is bad with shit like havels armor and garbage like that but a knife should not stagger someone in full body armor.
The problem with souls poise is it was a stat tacked on to armor where as it would work better based of the players total mass

Is there a mod that makes Keyboard/mouse a viable control scheme? My friend has my xbox dongle thing and I want to play the game but I haven't gotten a chance til now.

>>386514853
I like the part of my previous post where I said hyper armor was a good system too. oh wait....

>>386516447
>muh realism
Has always been a shit argument for addressing game balance. Either make reaction to hits a thing or don't and accept the consequences it's going to have for your combat system.

>>386516480
it's already playable. you're only missing analog leftstick movement.

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>>386512504
>In PvE
The change in how damage was made into absorption, So that all split damage weapons with very few exceptions were made useless.
Like have you EVER seen someone run Chaos, Lightning, Crystal or Dark infusions?
>In PvP
way way WAY too many i-frames.

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>>386516376
i never said that, why are you projecting anon?

>>386512504
>new lore seems half asses
>armor barely matters
>poise is fucked
>linear areas
>missing darker atmosphere in many areas that previous games had
>no armor upgrades
>magic is trash and takes away from your estus
>ng+ is trash with barely any diffrences besides huge amounts of damage done.

honestly pretty disappointing. plus there was a lot of missed dialogue opportunists.

>>386517169
>poise
see >>386514616
>no armor upgrades
Do people really miss this? Why? I'm genuinely curious.

>>386517287
would have missed it more if armor did as much as it did in previous games

>>386517287
It was nice to wear what you wanted.
Makes shit like castlevania runs less tedious.

>>386516589
So not only do you want heavy armor to be useless you want heavy weapons to be useless too?
The people who think the Souls games were meant to be full on action games need to fuck off.

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>>386512504
The Ctrl+V command.

>>386517287
It felt good to take something that wasnt all that great defense wise and upgrade it to make it better, It also gave you a way to spend all that piled up titanite that you always ended up getting.

>>386517464
It's almost like if you want to swing for massive burst damage and stagger there should be a drawback, what a concept!

>>386517392
>>386517689

Yeah I guess that makes sense though it was a little annoying that it made such a massive difference between players. Having fully upgraded armor compared to unupraded felt pretty massive.

>>386512504
No fun allowed locations.

>>386518545
The difference was massive and very apparent when it involved heavy armor so i can understand why it annoyed you.

Oh look, another "dark souls 3 is the worst because of reused assets and linearity and the most important aspect of a souls game is story not gameplay if you play for the combat you're a retard and even then 3's gameplay sucks because rolls are better and bosses have more than 3 attacks" thread
And heavy weapons aren't useless you inept fucks, the stagger they give on bigger enemies more than makes up for lack of dps. I'm convinced that everyone complaining about straightswords never once compared a sword/shield run to a twohanded fatrolling ultra run.

None of the enemies are fun to fight for some reason.

>>386518827
>lothric knights
>black knights
>darkwraiths
>pontiff knights
>silver knights
>the gargoyle things in the archives

There is no longevity because the PvP and the covenants are the absolute worst of the series. They really fucked it up. Otherwise its fine.

>>386512504
I think DaS3 is solid, almost as good as BB with the DLC

But Souls fatigue hit hard, i was still playing Old Hunters & getting into that when DaS3 came out

They should have waited until 2017 for DaS3

>>386519290
I'm not sure it's "souls fatigue", but I feel ya. I had a lot of fun playing it when it came out, killed all bosses, found all secrets and stuff. And when NG+ started I remembered all the locations I went through and the thought of going through them again literally made me sick. Haven't played since.
Actually the other day I went to buy DLCs and have maybe another go at it, but when I found out you access dlcs by the end of the base game I had a series of flashbacks from every location and I changed my mind. And I thought yeah locations in DS3 fucking suck ass

>>386519290
Stop with the fucking Souls fatigue meme.
DS3 is a linear shit brown/piss yellow swamp-filled slog with no NG+ content - which is to say nothing of the castrated invasion system and garbage PVP.

It is the Souls game with the lowest amount of replay value hands down, and it shows.

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>souls fatigue

>>386523548
wow

>>386512504
Matchmaking based on weapon reinforcement, that's about it.

>>386516050
if you're playing the emulator then nobody can really help you