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Still the best experience of 2017

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Still the best experience of 2017
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I agree.
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>Of 2017

Excluding Undertale I can't think of anything that comes close in this decade.

Hell, I can't think of a better period.

PS: Before the shitposting brigade gets rustled, I'm not claiming Nier is the greatest game ever, just the greatest experience I had with gaming.
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>>386481769
i have a feeling if it was a western developer that did this game, /v/ would shit on it.
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2017 was so good lads
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>>386481769
I would also agree.
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>>386482293
>excluding Undertale

Nigga tell me you aren't fucking serious
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>>386481769
Same here
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>>386482503
Typical /v/ if Life is Strange were Japanese characters /v/ would love it and praise it everyday in waifu threads.
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>mfw just completed Emil's Determination
I'm a monster.
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>>386482643
Incredibly obvious bait. Shitposters have been trying to force comparisons between Automata and Undertale even though they're nothing alike.
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>>386482796
Felt like it was bait, but it's summer so honesty I can't tell anymore.
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>>386481769
God no. Most overrated game among weeb/virgin fags of this year
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>>386482727
Or maybe people like the game because it's a sequel and they're invested in the franchise
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>>386482503
>>386482727
Wow, you have a retarded theory that's based entirely in a hypothetical scenario that can't be falsified, congratulations.
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>>386481769
Wrong, Persona 5.
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>>386482905
>being this much of a virgin
lmao
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>>386482998
I love Neir and it is my GOTY so far. Just pointing out how hypocritical people here can be. If Life is Strange had anime graphics, there would be daily waifu threads and praise everyday.
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>>386482998
Hardly anybody cared about Nier 1 and still barely do for the most part.

Meanwhile a major influx of 2B ass-threads happen everyday.
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>>386483080
You know it's true.
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>>386483080
>>386483169
Not either of them but you're only perpetuating the blunt, asshurt-defensive weeb stereotype.

Protip: wait longer between posts so it's a tad less-obvious.
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>>386482643
>>386482796
The undertale hate meme died one year ago already, you can stop and recognize that it was a fucking good game with some extremely touching moments.

Pacifist Ending is on pair with Ending E on "powerful moments in gaming".
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>>386482293
Sounds like you're one of those fags who is incredibly susceptible to meta storytelling, nier is basically Japanese undertale in this regard.
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>>386483443
What, aside from the last ending is meta about Nier?
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>>386483196
You can thank the influx of secondaries for that, I don't like 2B ass threads either
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Nier, GR2, Persona, Pyre.

It's been a good year.
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Stop shilling this shitty game pls. I care a lot about the quality of this board.
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>>386484240
if you truly cared you would stop posting.
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>>386483169
Virgins are the only ones pretending Nier is a good game.
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>>386482503
>westerner making a good game

Some things are just not possible.
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>>386482293
>>386482643
>>386482796
>>386482890
Undertale literally had better writing.
Undertale literally had more varied combat.
And best of all, your precious Yoko Taro likes it and possibly took inspiration from it.
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Have the fixed the PC port yet? I'm not gonna buy the game until they do
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>>386483196
Aside from tits and ass, how's Automata as a character action game?
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>>386481769
I really really liked it. Still on top of my OTY list, but I am hoping something does usurp it. The first chunk of this year has been pretty solid with only a few duds here and there, though it has petered a bit lately.
Hoping the final quarter ends us on a high-note.
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>Mediocre action game with a shit story
>But it was made by Platinum and Taro and has a robot waifu, so we must praise it endlessly
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>>386485937
This is bait an each of your comments are incorrect. He's never played it, he's only heard about it. Try harder shitposter-kun
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>>386486018
>they
no
>the community
yes
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>>386485937
It boils down to opinions, but sure, I respect yours. I'm not going to argue which masterpiece is better.

>And best of all, your precious Yoko Taro likes it and possibly took inspiration from it.

Source for Taro liking Undertale? Legit curious.

Not surprised if true though, it does sound like something right up his alley.

But I don't think there was much inspiration. the themes are way different. UT goes more balls-deep in the meta stuff.
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>>386486181
I wish I could be as hate-filled and cynical as you, but alas I have this pesky positive outlook on life and wish you well with your future endeavors.
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>>386486427
>community doing the devs' work for them
I already supported this trash once with DaS1 PC, I'm not doing it again
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>>386486447
He tweeted that the game looks cool and wants to play it. This was a long time ago before the japanese dub was released and after Nier: A was made
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>>386486462
He's right though, I was looking forward to automata but damn was it repetitive and boring.
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>>386486698
bye
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It's pretty hard to play Nier with mouse/keyboard

I guess it's better with a controller?
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>>386481769
If you're a fag, yes
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>>386486101
It really isn't one. There are definitely similarities in terms of concepts and control, but it's much more accurate to call it an Action RPG, and more specifically a natural extension of Nier's combat.

The depth comes from weapon combinations, use of pod fire and programs (special techniques on cooldown), and chips (passive and active upgrades you can apply to yourself that vary in size and effectiveness).

As a giant PG dicksucker and also someone who played Nier well before this one was announced, I really dig the mix, and I do think it's one of the best games this year.
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>Empty World
>Pisspoor Textures
>Stupid Anime Designs
>Fuck easy, even on the hardest difficulty
>Stupid as fuck forced hacking system
>Emotional and Resonant Soundtrack
>Beautiful landscapes complimented by fantastic and varied direction
>Amazing combat with varied approaches/playstyles that conform to the user's preference and skill level
>Weapons feel great and pod upgrades give the combat an extra layer of satisfaction
>Fishing minigame is relaxing, unlike original
>Mech portions are fun and fast paced
>Heartbreaking story about loss and suffering
>Emil
>Fantastic dub, which was really off putting despite Rina-chunky's bitchy 2B voice
>Unforgettable experience almost on the same level as Nier 1

I was gonna try to go with the /v/ mentality and blast it for becoming popular but I honestly can't. It's a fantastic game, and there isn't anything else like it.
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But unfortunately not the best video game
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>>386488330
>Stupid Anime Designs
You haven't seen true stupid. They were completely ok, blatant pandering included.
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>>386488312
>giant PG dicksucker
You can fuck off then
Sad that there's many people like you out there, with this much shit taste
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I barely played Bloodborne this year and it is immensely more enjoyable than Automata.

>>386488330
>wanting fishing minigames as braindead easy as Automata

Come on, every fishing system is shit compared to Dark Cloud 2's.
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>>386481769
I played the demo and thought it was incredibly boring. Is the full game significantly better? I know some good games have bad demos.
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>>386481769
It's solid. Nioh is probably my favorite this year, though.
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>>386488397
I'm with you on that one.

What game do you consider GOTY for gameoplay alone?

not bait just curious
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*blocks your path*
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>>386489039
The game is considerably slow paced compared to the demo. More akin to OG Nier than Bayo to give an example
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>>386485937
kek obv bait, doesnt know undertale ripped off nier with its twist.
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>>386488397
To me it is.
For fuck sake at the end you get acess to chapter select and debug mode tl make all kinds of scenarios. Thats the most videogamey shit ive seen in years ans the fact that I can jump to my favourite parts of the game makes the game even better for me.
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I actually just started playing this recently. It's pretty neat. I'm about to do the mission with the ocean colossus machine as 9S, so I'm interested in seeing how the story unfolds from his perspective after he's separated from 2B.

Also, we do get to learn more about A2, right? In 2B's story, she kinda just fucks off after her boss fight.
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>>386490337
Get out of this thread right now.
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>>386490467
K. Thanks for the warning, anon.
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>>386490090
Automata was the most video gamey video game I've played in a long time. It felt like I was playing a ps2 game and I mean that in the best possible way.
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someone xplain to me what the appeal of this was supposed to be

>The combat was shit

>The Main characters were shit

>The main story was shit

>Required to replay shit you've already done to get other endings

Outside of the music and the sidequests/side characters I was miserable playing this shit. I don't even think I want to go back and play Nier 1 now.
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>>386490584
Yeah, it felt like the designer was like "remember video games?"

really loved it
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>>386489345
It's a real shame HK went out in the same year because it's certainly the best metroidvania of last 10 years but it just can't compare to the experience Automata gave me.
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>>386484729
Were on 4chan so it doesnt matter if you call someone else a virgin we all assume of each other that we already are
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>>386482748
>quest basically requires 9S to be a stealing asshole
>9S is the most humanlike and advanced android
It is only human to commit a sin.
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>>386491342
>tfw my pics are in there
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Automata is good relative to this year, but honestly it has too many issues to call it some GOAT experience.

Nier 1 was arguably better overall.
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>play Nier
>given a clear objective to save your daughter right from the start
>every route has you fighting the final boss at the end
>every route after A that is the same thing cuts it in half to get straight to the point
>lots of unique bosses and gameplay shifts

>play Automata
>go places while on the job as an android with special events just happening
>no clear objective
>makes you replay the entire game again from start to finish instead of getting to the point
>Adam and Eve fights over and over in between the actual good boss fights

I'm finding it difficult to finish route B of this game. I loved Nier but find Automata boring.
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>>386482293
Undertale was only the 2nd best game of 2015 though. Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon was better that year.
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>>386493140
Replay the entire game from start to finish? You don't know shit Anon.
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>>386493140

Stick with it. Route C is where things really get interesting
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>>386493140
Route B has exclusive sidequests worth doing and does have extras like NieR route B. Also in Automata you don't have to replay the second half 4 times to get all endings
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>>386493394
Meant to say 3 times
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>>386493339
>it takes 20 hours for a game to get good
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>>386493639
As the guy disappointed with Automata, I've actually already put 40+ hours into the game without having even made it past route B. Is my boredom just from wasting too much time exploring/doing sidequests?
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>>386489090
Nioh is definitely more fun
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>>386493745
You might as well blast through the story since you can come back to the sidequests later, but yea its only in route C that the story actually starts.

This game has some really questionable direction calls, but the ass saved it lol.
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>>386489090
>>386493834
I played both demos and Nioh sucked, Nier made me get the game.
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Nah, I'd say that title goes to Prey so far.
Loved automata, though. Hopefully they follow through on that Nier HD release.
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>>386493981
Nioh fell apart because of the stupid Diablo inventory, everything else was fine.
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>>386483443
Undertale is Western Nier, and its a blatant rip-off of NieR.

I've been saying this since it launched.
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>>386493745
Probably, I dropped it for a while during Route B. I had to will myself to play through it and then didn't stop playing 8 hours later during Route C until I got the true ending
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>>386494182
all games are MGS2's children
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>yfw you hit Simone the 2nd time and see her progression into beauty during the hacking bits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMKskuvJTcs
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>>386481769
Yes it is. And with critics starting to turn on Zelda, hopefully it'll win GotY like it deserves to.
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Automata made me realize story - no matter how layered and thematic it may be - actually does not matter in games if the gameplay isn't even that interesting.

I should have gotten the lesson with MGSV, but now it's there.

Thanks Taro.
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>>386493140
I always found impatient retards like you amusing. I mean, you didn't even hit a second half of the game, and that's on top of assuming that Taro's method of storytelling stays the same between games. Feel free to stay in this thread so people can spoil the shit out of the game for you though.
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>>386494661
You posted the shittiest boss fight in the game yet try to act all haughy. Get right with God anon.
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>>386486713
Yes but he's been making weird games since the PS2 era.
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>>386489157
Gameplay alone in 2017? Honestly nothing released in 2017 is anything that I'd call goty in gameplay terms. This year has been pretty lackluster so far.
The only thing that really stands out is BotW and that has some issues of its own. It'll probably end up being Sonic Mania which I don't really count as a "new" game per se.
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>>386491652
I feel the complete opposite. I was turned off by the sex fanservice and cinematics of Nier, while enticed by the minimalistic storytelling and challenging gameplay of HK.
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>>386494876
>he actually considers this a boss fight instead of interactive cutscene
>completely disregards the emotional buildup before it and sheer hyper of actually controlling a Goliath
You have a legit brain damage anon.
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>>386495037
More like you eat shit and congratulate yourself for it, for some reason.

Ironically A2's POV was the best part of the game but it was rushed as fuck. She was better off having her own standalone DLC and cut away from the rest of that shit.
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>>386494661
best lead up to a boss fight ever. From an objective standpoint it wasn't all that great pressing a few buttons. But subjectively it was enjoyable as fuck, so much so that my inner /m/an burst forth
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>>386494661
>stays the same between games
But the method of storytelling being different here is precisely one of the problems. You have no goal, no real objective. Things just happen.
And I already had the game spoiled for me after the PS4 version of the game came out. I was waiting for the PC version, so I got fucked.

Even Drakengard 3 gave you a set goal: Kill your sisters. I don't understand how you can call me impatient; I can put up with weapon collecting in Drakengard 3 for fucks sake. Just not this.
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>>386495167
Automatafags like to pretend to be sophisticated just because they delete their save file lmao.

Anyone who has experience with Taro's games knows Automata has issues, and honestly I think he's been losing his touch ever since Drakengard 3. Both DoD1 and Nier 1 had much more compelling stories than their sequels.
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>>386495150
Well there's no helping your massive amount of shit taste, anon.
9S going nuclear was vastly superior to any moment of A2 you can think about, and no, you won't get her DLC you shit eating waifufaggot.
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Name a better final boss song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4n50CiriEk
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>>386495329
>BitchS's autitsc screeching that was played completely serious and was nowhere near as interesting or even entertaining as Inuart's madness
>better than A2 making peace with her past and actually trying to interact with people

Sorry sweety but no
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>>386495167
>You have no goal, no real objective.
2B states her own true objective in the very first cutscene of the game.
If you still can't understand what it is after getting to nearly the end of route B and already hearing weight of the world you are really not that bright.
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>>386495505
>BitchS
Oh, and here's that autistic waifufaggot again. I though you fucked off after they shat on your predictions about A2's dlc on E3, eh, anon?
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>>386495670
I haven't touched the game since beating Ending E and dont care about the bonus content so keep talking about someone else
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>>386495501
End of YoRHa.
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>>386494661
>. I mean, you didn't even hit a second half of the game

How the fuck is it impatient if you get tired of doing the same thing twice before you go on to new content you fucking mouthbreather?

its called padding your fucking game with useless bullshit and its a completely logical critique of the game

There's no fucking reason they couldnt have merged route A and B into one thing
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>>386495590
I'll just trudge through the game and see what route C brings. Maybe I'll be happier with it then.
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>>386493745
people are right in saying it gets better by route C, but not as much better as everyone claims

you might as well finish the game up but just know its not going to get extraordinairy if you aren't' liking it already
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>>386495735
Sure, A2 fag. Your massive shit taste is pretty much palpable in every thread you appear in.
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>>386495501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgr5iW73UJg

That was easy.
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what was the point of A2 as a character

what does she add?

her inclusion seems pretty trivial
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>>386491042
outside of the music and fapworthy characters, I found it to be boring as well.
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>>386495747
>2nd playthrough fills in gaps with necessary story information to make parts of the 3rd playthrough have necessary context
>""""padding the game""""

okay kiddo
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>>386495908
She's a better character than both 9S and 2B but her persence in th game was completely pointless. She's literally just there just to be there.
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>>386495478
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i would like to cum deep inside her tight ass and make little androids
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>>386496036
/thread
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>>386495747
>doing the same thing twice
You get loads of new info about the world and story on route B alongside some of the best side quests and other new content. Rolling it into one would completely ruin all the coolest moments of both routes by overloading you with info that happens simultaneously.
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>>386495992
>She's a better character than both 9S and 2B
She doesn't have a third of their complexity but she's easier to understand for your typical waifufag, you mean.
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>>386495972
It's more like poor direction since everything established in the 20 hours of A-B couldv'e been done in one route via POV switching or simply comitting to 9S's POV to begin with.

Taro is so in love with his own tropes but dosent really understand how that works when actually playing the game.
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>>386495996
Stay mad faggot
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>>386481769
>still hasn't been included ina psn sale

reeeeee
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>>386496323
>It's more like poor direction
Okay mister game director, care to show the games you've worked on?
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>>386496312
Lots of backstory isn't being complex. 9S/2B are the writer's pet characters but they were easily the most poorly done parts of the game. Even Pascal had more going for him in terms of actually being well-presented.

And unironically, the VN section for Devola and Popola was the best writing in the entire game.
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>>386496427
Play literally any visual novel and you see they do the same shit but much better. Taro isn't some genius. He's creative with mixing different influences but his actual skill with it is incredibly hit or miss. That term "hit or miss" can easily sum up his entire career.
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>>386496470
Confirmed for not reading the computer terminal logs at the Resistance Camp that detail A2's back story and internal struggle.
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>>386496470
>Lots of backstory isn't being complex
Good thing they are both complex and have lots of backstory then.
> writer's pet
The only writer's per in Taroverse is Emil and Taro is hell-bent on making his entire existence an extreme form of suffering.
>Even Pascal had more going for him in terms of actually being well-presented.
Pascal is not worth a single cutscene of 9S stroking a cheek of a dead 2B model.
Not even talking about actually interesting bits like Adam's psychoanalysis session.
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>>386496626
I did. D&P were still better. And I actually ike A2 so blablabla
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I'm halfway through B ending and getting bored. Should I keep going?
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>>386494981
literally this post is how I feel
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>>386496228
>>386495972

Why is it so impossible for there to have been new content to accompany this oh so critical new story information?

It does nothing but irritate the player to have to redo shit, I fucking dropped Bravely Default because it made me do the exact same story 5 or so times before I was allowed to get an ending

Just call a spade a fucking spade. It's lazy game design to slap a new character on the exact same story scenario and sprinkle in sparse bits of new story and call it a new piece of content in that game.
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>>386496618
>Play literally any visual novel
Why don't you fuck off to your non-games instead, anon?
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>>386496427
what the fuck argument is this

>you're not a chef so how can you tell this piece of shit on your plate is a piece of shit?
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>>386496839
Automata only qualified as a game because of the fucking bullethell sections so dont even go there with me lol.
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>>386496725
Fair enough, have to admit that was still pretty good and helped contextualize the story. Not sure if it was the best move to make that stuff optional though, players who missed that missed some key information.
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>>386495881
I. HEAR. A. SOUND.
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>>386496626
>Confirmed for not reading the computer terminal logs at the Resistance Camp that detail A2's back story and internal struggle.

not him but I definitely didn't because I didn't know that existed

I uninstalled that piece of shit after I finished the game too so well played I guess Taro, I'm unhappy with my purchase of your game as usual
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>>386496818
>to have been new content
But there is. There's loads of new cool side quests, there's completely different story segments when they were separate, their thoughts about situations are fairly different too and 9S hides quite a bit of bullshit behind smiles. None of this would make sense if he tried to roll two playthroughs into one.
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>>386496943
>Automata only qualified as a game because of the fucking bullethell sections
No, it's qualified as a game because it's a fairly solid ARPG with lots of fun things going on for it.
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>>386496786
If you have to ask a board to convince you to carry on playing a game, you should just drop it instead
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Do you people have ADHD or something? Route B is 2 hours tops if you rush through it, and the last 25% is mostly new content.
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>>386496626
I read that, but I was pretty disappointed how Anenome just sits in the camp the whole game despite all the backstory she gets.
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>>386497108
>having an intact attention span in the age of social media and image boards
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>>386497108
If you don't do all of the side quests in route B you miss out on a ton of world building and information that, if ignored, will be undermine your experience with the story.
Like when you fight the commander she mentions something about a family which won't make sense to the player unless they've done a certain side quest.

Route B should not be rushed through at all.
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>>386497064
It's ARPG side is cliche'd as fuck with the same "level 99 enemies to make up for not giving a fuck about interesting fights" and an intricate combo system thats terribly utilized. Don't get me started on "Tap R to awesome"

It would have been better if they actually didnt pretend it was an RPG, but they wanted to stay loyal to the first Nier which obviously wasn't a good ARPG either. The design is borderline copy-pasted.

I enjoyed both games, but I'm not going to pretend they had anything close to engaging gameplay. It's just a vehicle for the story.
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>>386497108
I'm actually surprised people here pretend like their worthless time they will waste on shitposting here in any case is worth shit.
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>>386497294
>blahblahblah
It's a game and a fairly good one, anon. Unlike VN which are a literal non-games.
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>>386497408
thats what i thought
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>>386496818
I would have been pissed if I had to going back and forth between perspectives. It would have gotten annoying very, very quickly. Not to mention the different cutscenes sprinkled throughout. The differences are very literal. One story is from the perspective of 2B, the other from the perspective of 9S. The new cutscenes would not have worked if they were rolled up into a single playthrough. Playthrough B is like watching a movie for a second time but you start noticing all the allusions and foreshadowing to things you're already familiar with. It creates an entirely new layer of appreciation for the story, plus mixes in the new bits without making things confusing.

It wouldn't have worked if they were combined.
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>>386497865
the problem with 2B's pov is that she barely does anything the entire time and only really goes anywhere as a character in Route C. So it makes you wonder what the point of it was.

Someone will jerk off about subtle hints or whatever, but lets not pretend that was substantial compared to how both 9S and A2 are presented.
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2b is my autistic girlfriend :)
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>>386497865
>>386498013

Also worth mentioning, the second playthrough sheds a ton of light on how the machines work and that they are more than "just machines". A major theme in the game is that humanity transcends flesh, and the second playthrough helps that theme to begin bleeding through and set itself up for the third run. This theme taking hold would not have been as effective if the first two playthroughs were combined into one. In the first playthrough we are expected to believe that machines are machines. They have no purpose and their existence is meaningless. They can't think, feel, or act on their own. They are a blight and need to be destroyed. This is how 2B feels about them.

It's not meant to be more than a generic hack and slash character action game, with little in the way of character development or plot. Nothing important happens, other than creating the setup for future playthroughs. In the second run we learn that they can think, feel, and act on their own. This creates a dissonance that is necessary to help that theme have an impact.
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>>386498503
Having already played the first game the "enemies being just like you" thing was already expected and ultimately underwhelming. I honestly wanted Taro to take a different approach this time around.

And you can honestly reach that same conclusion in Route A by paying the least bit of attention.
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>gets constantly killed by 2E
>machine network torture
>have to kill milf Operator
>more machine mind rape
This game should be called the suffering of 9S.
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>>386481769

He ain't lyin
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>>386497865
>One story is from the perspective of 2B, the other from the perspective of 9S.

Why does this distinction matter for the 95% of both routes where they're together?

Both perceive events the same don't they? A conversation with someone to 2B looks the same as a conversation with 9S. We don't get an internal monologue for either so we don't even get to know how each character internally thinks about the situation. Playing as one character or the other doesn't matter because any dialogue the other character says when they're together is present when you play on the other route.

It's completely useless.

>>386497865
>Playthrough B is like watching a movie for a second time but you start noticing all the allusions and foreshadowing to things you're already familiar with.

Except unlike naturally replaying a game and picking up on those things which is normally a pretty exciting thing, it's completely manufactured because they intentionally withhold parts of the story from you until your second route. You're not picking up on shit like it's a replay, you're just getting a tiny continuation of the story.

And you keep saying that it would get confusing but all I can say to that is that I disagree, I don't see how just having a straight story playout like any other video game would be confusing.
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>>386492131
NYEHHEHEHEHEHHEHEEH
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>>386498013
>the problem with 2B's pov is that she barely does anything the entire time
There's a lot of subtle hints about her spread throughout the entire route A and it makes a good job showing how exactly important 9S is for her and how he always comes to her aid even if situation is awful. The way she starts getting emotional after 9S' disappearance was done extremely well.
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>>386498817
>2E
woah that spoiler m8
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If 2B was not hot we would have 2 threads about this game weekly at fucking max.
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>>386498934
>Why does this distinction matter for the 95% of both routes where they're together?
Because 9S keeps to himself 95% of the info he digs about the world and machines on top of his own thoughts he prefers not to bother 2B with?
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>>386498990
Again, the hints are sublte and cute, but compared to almost every other character its hardly substantial.

He basically hinged the best parts of 2B on a spoiler, making her rather useless for a direct POV. Something very similar happened with Zero in DoD3, which is why that story fell flat too.
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>>386498817
He lived in blissful ignorance on all his incarnations and always was together with a girl who loves him more than anything. It's 2B who went through a living hell which broke her and nearly forced her to commit suicide attempt long before the game events.
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>>386499048
You don't really know what that means unless you've done Amnesia. Hell I've seen people even after beating the game have absolutely no clue what A2 meant by that
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Would you?
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>>386484952
Titanfall 2 is pretty good.
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>>386499198
>hardly substantial
It's extremely substantial because she pretty much hides her entire true personality and goals in her life.
>He basically hinged the best parts of 2B on a spoiler
And that spoiler makes route A even more interesting for replaying so you can see their interaction and all subtle things about her from another, new angle.
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>>386498934
>Why does this distinction matter for the 95% of both routes where they're together?
It matters because there are literally story elements that are internal monologues. At least half of the cutscenes in the B playthrough are different from the A playthrough and show you exactly what the machines are, and shows you that they can think, feel, and act on their own. They are not "just machines", which is what A is about.

>it's completely manufactured
No, it isn't, because again, the new story elements in B would NOT have worked if they were presented side by side in A. It would have been confusing to keep track of and the overall impact of the dissonance between A and B's overarching themes would not have made any sense nor had as much of an impact (going from "machines are machines" to "humanity transcends flesh").
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>>386499070

A2 is hotter.
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>>386499262
but didn't A2 tells 9S that the E models hunt other Yorha units? how the fuck people missed that?
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>>386499552
This.
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>>386499552
>A2 has amazing tier hair
>she cuts it when you play as her
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>>386495501
Any shadow of the Collosus song.
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>>386499941
You earn a item to get it back after the end of her route.

Also get to use the Future SS Nazi Outfit on 2B with or without her helmet.
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>>386499552
I wish she had that outfit ingame
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>>386500147
>Also get to use the Future SS Nazi Outfit on 2B with or without her helmet.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>386500253
use the dress module
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>>386500147
I know, but I couldn't play with her and her hair until I beat the game

>>386500283
anon is probably talking about the beginning of route C, I think it's the same outfit as the one the Operators use
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>>386499373
>confusing
>confusing
>confusing

You have little faith in the ability of the average person to keep track of narrative. And even if it was hard to get a grasp of, you're saying you're okay with them deliver the story shittily just so mouthbreathing mongoloids can keep up with the big kids?
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>>386493639
The game is good from start to finish fucko.
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>>386500463
>Hegel fight is good
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>>386500447
haha yeah man you're right, i mean let's look at that movie called inglorious basterds. why did they show us those simultaneous perspectives of events at different parts in the movie? why wouldn't they just show them side by side? it doesn't make any sense!
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Should I get this on PC or PS4? I'd prefer PC, but everyone says the port is ass.
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>>386499369
Route A would be interesting to replay if the gameplay was interesting and had substantial changes, but that didnt happen either.

Automata is basically a VN with action game stuff slapped on just to call it a game.
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>>386500283
I actually prefer 2B in this armor. Love it with the Type 40 Sword
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>>386500603
never saw it but route B does not add a new perspective that changes everything, anything about how robots could behave similarly to people was already present in route A

9S own opinion never even really changes, both he and 2B seem to switch halphazardly between "dude dont listen to those robots they're evil" and "woah what the heck idk if we should kill these robuts"
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>>386500363
Doesn't she still have the "shorts"
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>>386500734
Jokes aside, it is trash. Even with the fan patch, game performance can be spotty, with crashes pretty common
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>>386501270
yes, yes it does add a new perspective that changes everything. In the entirety of A you just kill shit to kill shit. The things that allude to the machines being "more" are only visible when you play it again on B. The only reason you are saying "haha u just need to pay attention :^)" is because you have already played the other routes, you know what to look for, you know what the subtleties are that allude to it. I expected nothing of that when playing it for the first time.

the cutscenes in B are different and provide necessary story information. you learn that the opera machine wasn't just crazy, she was crazy for a reason (love) and became jealous, and learned about beautification, so she set out to "become more beautiful". you don't know that about her until you get to that fight in B. until then there is nothing that alludes to her acting that way for a particular reason, let alone a human reason. the slow and steady realization that the machines are more only works because the bits are slowly added in B, after you are initially conditioned to think they have a meaningless existence.

the only elements that foreshadow that kind of behavior are with adam and eve, but they are special cases. they are physical representations of the entire machine network. existing as beings like that with the kind of behavior they both demonstrate makes sense, because they are the equivalent of an artificial intelligence. they are not a singular entity like each individual machine. they ARE the entire network, acting as a single unit. of course they are going to be more cognitive and sentient than their individual counterparts.
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>>386501972
>I expected nothing of that when playing it for the first time.
Because its your first Taro game
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>>386502242
yeah, you're probably right with that. but that doesn't make any of my points any less valid.
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>>386502321
Familiary with what's come before will change your entire perspective and expectations. Having playd Nier 1 a bunch of shit that happened in Automata just felt "oh, we're doing that again."
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I'm still waiting for an Xbox One port...

I will have to buy a PS4, right?
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>>386502482
and i agree with you, but again, that does not invalidate any of my points. the points still stand, and are perfectly valid. of course if you are familiar with what to expect then it's not as surprising or interesting. no shit, you don't say, that's fucking wild.
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>>386502618
You dont really have a point, you're just listing shit that happened.

Anon's assertion was that the details behind machines and their nature was present in Route A, and that's very true, especially if you know what already happened in Nier 1. If anything you'd be asking yourself why he's playing that theme again since he wore it out the last time.
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>just got it today
>keep repating the first fucking part over and over

I'll give it another shot later, because right now I'm sick of repeating it all over again. But I don't remember that huge third boss one shotting you in the demo.
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>>386503506
>repating

Aw, fuck me
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>>386502563
http://store.steampowered.com/app/524220/NieRAutomata/
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>>386503506
change it from hard to normal
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>>386488330

>Fuck easy, on the hardest difficulty.

I guess it's easy in the sense that it doesn't change the combat. The harder difficulties are cheap as fuck though, some things will just 1 hit ko you because of a bad camera angle or attacks that register during a cutscene.
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>>386503909
>Playing an action game on Normal
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>>386503974
the prologue is fucking impossible on normal, i tried to beat it for 6 hours straight. you can't fucking do it. i can get far enough to the second stage of the fight but there's always the inevitable one shot. it doesnt matter how good you are. you can't do it.

after the prologue turn it to hard.
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>>386502563
why would you buy an xbox is the real question
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>>386481769
I think it fucking great, I just don't like the hacking parts.
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>>386495881

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axT_RojfaRs
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>>386503974

It's pretty bullshit desu.

>Goliath attacks in the middle of the stage.
>Hitbox registers to both the left and right screens, probably needed to jump even though there was no indicator that players needed to.

The way saving works and penalties of death aren't very good for this style of game.
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Finishing the "emil's memories" sidequest and finding kaine's shack was such a glorious punch to the heart, especially when the music kicked in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRg_6Oy435A

Add a second punch at the end of the "gathering keepsakes" quest.
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>>386481769
"experience"
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>>386481769
>people are delusional enough to think any game has a shot to be more memorable and "better" than BotW
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>>386506630
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Im still liking this one the best
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>>386508360
Wasn't as good as 2 desu.
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gaming is really good this year, but nothing is going to top botw for me. nier was close. yakuza 0 was fantastic and definitely would have been my goty in any of the past 3 years. everything else i played was alright but not worthy of goty (except gravity rush 2, fuck that stupid boring piece of shit)
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>>386501550
PS4 it is then. Shame, having things on my PC makes me 200 times more likely to play it consistently instead of once and never again.
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>>386506630
>thinking anyone gives a shit about botw anymore

I bet you don't even remember there's an expansion pack with DLC coming out soon.
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>>386508746
>Daily threads about it
>No one cares
Wew
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>>386508624
Ill be honest never played any other yakuza but so far this is the game i have had the most fun with and got the most feels out of.
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>>386508360
>voices in japanese

wtf is this shit?
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Personally I didn't like the game overall.
>Of the 3 story routes, B is 90% the same as the A route and C route is kind of short.
>Game peak is the amusement park and goes downhill from there.
>Beginning on Hard is a mistake since bosses can one-shot you and you have to restart from zero.
>Ending E is just a fucking asspull
>Combat could be good if enemies weren't fucking shit. You never need to learn new combos or try other weapons since enemies have predictable patterns.
>Camera angles are annoying due to constant switching between perspectives in combat
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPXuopwIdBo

I can't get enough of this shit. Christ
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>>386509351
You are planning on going through the series proper now right?
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>>386509569
the song is good on its own but it also works perfectly with the game

>the lights go out as the songs pick up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_ssrlpd0z8
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>>386510396

That was one of the best moments of the game for me personally.
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>>386510546
best bossfight for sure
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>>386506630
>people are delusional enough to think botw is GOAT
its an okay game. its not the best
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>>386509761
I was thinking of just waiting for kiwami and then getting anything after that.
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>not filtering any post containing the word "undertale"
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Definitive GOTY
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Forgot pic.
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