what games have good aircraft/spacecraft combat? Most of them

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>>386475935
>Most of them just have you sort of flying in a tight circle so you can aim at your enemy

I don't think the turret sections in a cowadoody count as flight games

>>386476672
when you come to Los Angeles you can suck my cock

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>>386477264
>LA
>angry homosexual who can't into videogames

Checks out.

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>>386475935
Fractured Space have good capital ship combat but unfortunately its a f2p moba game.

>>386475935
Ace combat series (4,5,0 on PS2, 6 on Xbox 360)
Strike Suit Zero on steam

>>386475935
you shoukd check out Strike Vector
it sounds like you are looking for a game just like it

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>>386478695
this nigga gets it

>>386475935
Elite Dangerous

>>386475935
>what games have good aircraft combat?
>Most of them just have you sort of flying in a tight circle so you can aim at your enemy

haven't played any real fight sims have you?

>>386478695
>Ace combat series

literally fly in a circle and press X on rails arcade dogshit.

>>386475935
Freelancer

>>386479370
>press X on rails
That's Assault Horizon

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>>386479370
>press X on rails arcade dogshit.

That's Afterburner Climax and it's fantastic

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FreeSpace
Descent
Colony Wars
G-Police

>>386478695
>Strike Suit Zero
This the most generic rail shooter I've ever played on Steam
Everything about the designs scream generic no name brand too

>>386479587
Hey did the directly copy Freespace 2's controls for Elite Dangerous? It feels that way

>>386478695
Sounds exactly like what OP doesnt want.

>>386480008
Nah, not really. FreeSpace controls are quite "unrealistic" and arcadey.

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>>386475935
>what games have good aircraft/spacecraft combat?
>Most of them just have you sort of flying in a tight circle so you can aim at your enemy
do you know any that don't do that? I mean it kind of makes sense when it comes to dogfighting, how else would it be? You didn't even give any examples.

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Infinite Warfare's space combat system is ridiculously simple but I find it quite fun. Its a pity that this mode is missing in multiplayer.

>>386480934
I think that's why I asked

>>386480934
You just did
>Spaceship boxing

>>386480008
bruh u know elite is a franchise that dates back to 1984 right?
is this bait

Evochron Mercenary

>>386481074
Except the old games weren't 3D first person games with zero gravity controls

>>386481105
game sucks

>>386481593
Maybe but it has better combat than most.

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>>386481494
Uh...?

>>386482149

Go home grandpa.

star wars battlefront 2015

not even kidding

>>386475935
Original Wing Commander (2 as well).

3 and 4 suffer from having too much distance between you and the enemy, on average, and pixel perfect hitboxes since those games are fully 3D. They aren't satisfying because you largely have to rely on missiles to get anything done.

Prophecy (5) amends this issue, and is a better game for it.

Chuck Yeager's Air Combat is also fucking fantastic, even though it can be really arcade-y at times.

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>>386478461
I love Fractured Ass, but god damn, the teeny tiny playerbase really sucks

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>House of the Dying Sun

Oh man this game is so good. Has anyone tried it in VR?

Salvation Prophecy.
You also get Battlefront-like land battles to top it off.

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>>386478461
agreed I did get some fun out of it, but haven't devoted a lot of time

there is another game that seems similar called Dreadnought, looks interesting though I haven't played it, I think the open beta is PS4 only at the moment

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>>386483510
>Chuck Yeager's Air Combat is also fucking fantastic,
GOAT. Bullet drop, 3d replay and you could die of your wounds. LHX and SU25 were god tier early sims from around then.

>>386484067
Open beta is also on pc and is a lot of fun but suffers heavily from matchmaking and balancing issues. That said I still play it frequently and have a lot of cool moments in it.

>>386485430
ill have to try it then

>>386485537
I recommend it at least for a bit. It isn't p2w despite being able to buy ships with rmt the hero ships are largely ass

>>386484067
>>386485430
It's World of Tanks but you have tanks that heal other tanks because some dumb fuck thought that sort of bullshit would be a good idea. The meta right now is just sit on your ass in a low canyon as a team with two healers making a chain heal while the other team either does the same thing and nothing happens for fifteen minutes, or they try to push and get slaughtered while you continually heal.

>>386475935

tachyon the fringe
descent : freespace

wing commander 3 & 4

xwing vs tie fighyter

>>386486323
healers, not even once

I blame MMOs and MOBAs, and maybe TF2

>>386486323
Is that what its like at t5? Because I can't imagine that being viable with all of the modules that disrupt systems x

>>386478461

to be honest FS is fucking dogshit compared to Star Conflict (I Know a terrible name)

but the problem with star conflict is that despite the combat being ABSOLUTELY FUCKING PERFECT it's a dogshit game made by russian devs and a big stupid grind and has some stupid eve online style dogshit like shield tanking / hull tanking with armor repair drones AND fucking world of tanks style trees and cancer

i playedi t for like 30 hours and had a good time getting up ti like tier 7 ships but...it would take fucking forever to get anywhere better than that

>>386486660
System disruption is less effective than it sounds. The most effective thing right now are players good at being a corvette class ships. The first corvette you get (tier 2) has auto-healing, and an FTL jump as its final ability, once you get that you just bounce around the map at full speed with your contact lasers on non-stop and no one can do shit unless they also have contact lasers (which track so you don't have to aim).

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>>386479587

>G-Police

Thought I was the only guy who played that.

here's another one

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can you post this pic without motion blur, chromatic abberation, and anothr cinematic dogsiht?

>>386486626
A multi-heal team is really hard to dislodge when they stay put, even with heavies. Because their healing ability effects multiple targets at range so you have more then one and your ships nearby are not only getting constantly healed but the other healer is also getting healed as he's healing you.

>>386487475
>FS is fucking dogshit compared to Star Conflict
for a second I thought you meant Freespace

>>386487768
It isn't all that bad the only time I ever felt outclassed was when there were two t4 healers and a t4 dread with two t3 destroyers, while our team was in fresh t3's we kept having to draw out the t3's and pick them off. We won that match but it was annoying

>>386478461
Fractured Space was fun until they gave a blanket speed increase to every ship in the game and made the maps smaller & more cluttered.

RIP Overseer. You were too good for this world

>>386475935
EVE Online

>ctrl+f
>no DCS
Y'all are shitters

>>386489372
Fuck no

>>386489385
I don't know what DCS is. what is it?

>>386488884
One of the balance issues is that even maxed T2's have no business going into veteran. Even maxed T3's have trouble against T4's. I have a maxed Chernabog T3 dread and I constantly feel like I'm shooting paperclips at even midrange T4's.

>>386489584
Digital Combat Simulator
Fighter and helicopter simulator, is pretty dank
Game is free to download, and comes with the nonclickable cockpit SU25, and the fully clickable cockpit TP-51 (civilian version of the P-51 mustang)
Be prepared to pay a bit for aircraft modules, but they're all worth it. Except the trainer aircraft, don't buy them.
KA50 is best module, A-10C shitters need not reply

>>386489585
Yea that's my biggest issue as well no ship has any business going up against a ship above or below it tier wise the ships just outclass eachother too easily

>>386483510
>3 and 4 suffer from having too much distance between you and the enemy, on average, and pixel perfect hitboxes since those games are fully 3D. They aren't satisfying because you largely have to rely on missiles to get anything done.
The Wing Commander Saga mod for Freespace 2 is also pretty good about that, although your gun energy does run out way too quickly.

CUM HISTOOOOOOOOOOOOOORIA

Any Newtonian-ish space shooters? Like Diaspora: Shattered Armistice, but doesn't look like dogshit. I just wanna fly vipers desu

>>386491283
Elite Dangerous with flight assist turned off.

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Ace Combat

Colony Wars
>that bass when an explosion happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLlwfYwKBm0

>>386491036
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>>386493361
It's really too bad that there aren't more games like Ace Combat. The only ones I know of are Project Wingman (which isn't finished) and Vector Thrust (which also isn't finished, but doesn't admit it).