So, what's the next fad after Open World?

>>386475536

MOBAs disguised as other genres.

Battle Royales

>>386475536
Pickle Rick games

>>386475536
I hope it's waifus

>people are now nostalgic for linear scripted games

>>386475536
VR centric, which we are approaching at rapid speed.

honestly open world feels more like the logical next step for many games rather than a fad, the issue is the technology isn't really there to pull it off, and the budget can get excessive as well making publishers wary to do it properly.

>>386475619 is probably right, weird pseudo-mobas are likely our next big trend.

>>386475536
Candy crush (tm) ripoffs

>>386475776
More people remember Chrono Trigger than a randomly generated Skyrim quest.

>>386475913
Flawed thinking; more people remember Skyrim than Chrono Trigger. What people remember isn't indicative of quality, however.

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>>386475619
This. Devs are starting to realize that directly ripping off Overwatch is a bad idea and instead should rip off Overwatch in principle. That is, another genre fused with MOBA elements.

>>386475536
>next fad
Nigga the "open world" meme has been the thing since fucking GTA3. Remember Jak 1 vs Jak 2? It's no fad, it's here to stay.

>>386476075
More people remember Chrono Trigger's story than Skyrim's story.

>>386475536
>Linear
get outta here with your plotfag garbage.

>>386476343
They clearly don't remember its gameplay, or they wouldnt be nostalgic for it. ATB is the most wank ass battle system ever conceived.

>>386476075
That's a silly way of thinking also, since when Chrono was released, there weren't nearly as many people playing vidya. Also the fact that Chrono Trigger is what, more than 10 years older than Skyrim?

>>386476472
better than Skyrims stand still and wack shit?

>>386476515
if anything, you just further showed why >>386475913 is incorrect.

>>386476343
more people remember Skyrim's gameplay than Chrono Trigger's gameplay. which is what games are about.

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>>386476468
>what's with all these linear games having a story and shit?

>>386476665
>>386476657
>lose the argument over the game's content
>change the subject and start pretending Skyrim has amazing gameplay

Handcrafted content > Open world randomly generated craft system horseshit

>>386476606
Nah. At least in Skyrim you don't have to stand still and wack shit. In CT you stand still and wait for a bar to fill so you can be ALLOWED to wack shit.

>>386476808
why did you include my post? I didn't say jackshit about gameplay.

>>386476938
You deserve to be btfo for posting so close to him.

>>386476808
>thinks story is the entirety of a game's content
>thinks Skyrim's world isn't handcrafted

>>386476965
what's your problem anon?

>>386476665
Given the popularity of mobas it doesn't surprise me more people have shit taste then not

>>386477002
>thinks Skyrim's world isn't handcrafted

The vast majority of it is copy and pasted.

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>>386475536

Games-as-Service

>Loot boxes
>Microtransactions
>"Balance" updates
>Game 'seasons'
>Always Online
>"Don't worry, it won't affect the game balance"
>"You'll still be able to earn the currency in-game"

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>>386476965
this made me kek

>>386476468
Linear/open world are separate from the narrative/gameplay dichotomy.

>>386475536
>100s of quests
It works in Runescape
Although the MMORPG format makes them ommited by a large number of players

>>386477026
yes going from plot point to plot point with the occasional enemy encounter where you stand still waiting for your turn to press the attack option is an example of fine and deeply engaging gameplay.

>>386477284
More so then health sponge whack health sponge for 30 seconds straight, yes

>>386476515
>time makes a game bad
/vr/ would tear you apart. And what does more people playing games have to do with it's quality?

>>386475536
Whatever game makes a shit ton of money, that's the one publishers will try to reproduce. First it was Call of Duty, now Skyrim. They believe that if they produce a game with the same features as those games, they'll make the same amount of money. They also believe that the only games that are successful are the games that make all the money a game could conceivably make and everything else is a flop

Video game excecutives are fucking morons

>>386476835
>>386476472
>>386476075
It's ATB v2.0. Which is totally different from ATB.
No separate battle screen, battle takes place in actual plane, combos as the most basic form of attack, NO RANDOM ENCOUNTERS
I played CT and love it. Couldn't get into any FF game (IV, IX, VII) due to the shitty combat system.

>>386477430
but Skyrim's gameplay has a lot more to it than direct combat, the same cannot be said about Chrono Trigger.

>>386477594
None of which it does well

>>386475536
early access survival shooter
>Ark
>Culling
>PUBG

>>386475619
why the fuck do people still use "MOBA" as a term to describe a dotalike when there are far better terms, such as A.S.S.F.A.G.G.O.T.S.

>>386475536
A hybrid of open world and FPS. PUBG clones and battle royales.

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>>386477710
Fresh meme, my man. Now fuck off

>>386477869
Aeon of Strife Style Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides

>/v/ now wants linear narritive-heavy games because they want to be contrarian to the open world genre
>they think all open world is ubisoft-tier

what the fuck happened to this place

>>386475536
Witcher 3 and BoTW showed me how powerful open world can be if done right. So it honestly depends on the devs.

Do you have a team of lazy dumbasses who give no shits about their work beyond the next paycheck?

Make some linear shit game, something so simple they can't fuck it up.

Do you have a team of passionate devs who love their work and enjoy a high level of competence in their field?

Make an open world game, that shit will resonate as GOTY material.

>isolated yet large map laid out like an actual location with multiple paths intersecting, interesting landmarks and design, layout mindful and bolstering of game mechanics and atmosphere

>>386478192
name 5 good open world games

>>386475536
Battle royale loot shooters.

>>386478380
>I started playing video games in 2011

It fucking shows

>>386477710
>why the fuck don't the retarded sjws who like a dumb genre use a politically incorrect term

>>386478403
but this fad is already dying

>>386478380
GTA, BoTW, Witcher 3, Skyrim (Fuck you, when it came out it was good for its time), Black Flag (I still want to find another game which comes anywhere close to that open water experience).

>>386478536
Shitty Bethesda games don't count.

>>386478589
Have you tried Sea Dogs? What about City of Abandoned Ships?

>>386478380
Saint Rows 2
Grand Theft Auto Vice City
Just Cause 2
Watch Dogs
Breath of the Wild

BTFO

>>386478589
>Skyrim (Fuck you, when it came out it was good for its time)
Morrowind was better, also it was a buggy piece of shit

>>386478641
>FUKKEN BETHESDA

I didn't even mention Bethesda you sperg.
Skyrim was pretty good at the time, though.

>>386478738
noo

>>386475619
this. riot is going to make a "fighting game" with quantity over quality characters that are shallow and easy to master just like in league. retards love the illusion of depth that comes from having a huge amount of characters with dumbed down and simplistic abilities.

>>386476343
No, they don't.

>>386475776
>nostalgiac

Man they were always good, open world never improved an experience on its own. MGSV is a perfect example of this, I much preferred the linear indoor experience of the old games.

>>386478192
>/v/ now wants linear narritive-heavy
>narritive-heavy

Who said this? Why does linearity have to do with narrative?

>>386478775
You said it here faggot >>386478589 so I was right to mention it
Skyrim was a shitty game when it came out. Just because you were 12 and "immersed yourself" in it doesn't make it a good game.

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>>386475536
>Its another Open World games are bad /v/ipster meme

>>386475913
Chrono Trigger wasn't linear, you fucking idiot.

>>386477869
imagine being this new.

>>386476343
>Chrono Trigger: big bad wants to destroy the world
>Skyrim: big bad wants to destroy the world

#wow #woah

W-what are the chances that shmups, arcade puzzlers and 3D rail shooters become the next big things? That would be nice

If you're trying to tell a story just write it in a fucking book

If you're going to make a video game you need to make the medium work in your favor to deliver a story that cannot be delivered through a different medium.

It has never taken me over 30 hours to read a book in my entire life, yet many RPGs have taken up well over 30 hours of my time for a blind run. As a matter of fact, it's totally normal. And the gameplay is generally mediocre at best. So why are you tarnishing what your story could be by muddling in half assed generic RPG combat? If the gameplay is not serving to enhance the story just write a fucking novel.

The entire Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy series can be totally shelved. And many other ""classic" " RPGs.

>>386478710
>watch dogs

youve got to be kidding

>>386479064
It pretty much was - the only distraction from that were the 13 alternate endings and 6 sidequests

>>386479123

I think you've missed the appeal of Dragon Quest entirely

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>>386476965

>>386478698
>Sea Dogs, City of Abandoned Ships

Huh, I hadn't even heard of these games for some reason and they don't look that bad for a somewhat dated games either. Thanks anon.

Still though, there was something great about being able to seamlessly cripple enemy ships before pulling the Jackdaw up beside them, jump up your ships mast and rigging, and launch yourself over to the enemy vessel and kill the occupants before they surrender and you capture it.

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>>386476965

>>386478997
I'm
>>386478589

I'm not whoever you're talking to here:
>>386478775

>>386479241
What does Dragon Quest bring to the table that it couldn't do better in a different medium?

What does its gameplay do to make it worth playing as a video game?

>>386477869
The term ASSFAGGOTS has been around far longer than MOBA my prepubescent friend.

>>386479230
>you actually think this

I hate this fucking board.

>>386479324
If ship-to-ship battles are more of your thing, you could always look into Man O' War: Corsair. Despite being a full release it still feels unfinished, though.

>>386478978
Seriously,

Witcher 3 was open world, but shit was its narrative weighty as fuck.

>>386479440
Well either you gotta defend your shitty opinion or you're two retards in the same thread with the same shit opinion.
Skyrim is garbage and everything Bethesda puts out is a piece of shit. Not my fault you started playing games this decade.

>>386475536
Intelligent emergent narratives with ecosystem based levels designed around specific play styles but leaving room for experimentation within that framework...

Jokes. It's what >>386475619 said. E-sports until the industry dies.

>>386479589
what was non-linear about Chrono Trigger?

>>386479647
>the parroting /v/ermin opinion

okay

>>386479647
i bet you think Use Your Witcher Sense 3 is greatest game ever made.

>>386479120
i would befriend you. u sound cool and have good taste

>>386479903
i do

>>386479896
I pirated that shit when it came out and posting here about how it was garbage. Not my fault you have shit taste. You're the reason the industry is shit

>>386475776
Because people are getting over the linear is bad meme

>>386475536
Alternative monetization strategies. It's already happened, really. The internet has significantly reduced the monetary risk involved with shipping a game for large companies now, and it's revolutionized advertising. The focus now isn't on making the best possible game you can make so people buy it, it's making a game that's just good enough to be bought, then nickle and dime the consumer at every opportunity to squeeze more wealth out of them. The "games as a service" idea ties into this, consistent monetization. Just like software as a service.

>>386479647
>you're two retards in the same thread with the same shit opinion.

Oh /v/, never change.

>Skyrim is garbage and everything Bethesda puts out is a piece of shit.

Don't be an asshat, Skyrim was fine but it was the beginning of the downfall of Bethesda and was- in my opinion- the last game that could be excused for using the dated Gamebyro engine.

Don't forget the game was released over half a decade ago. For its time the graphics were stunning and the gameplay a noticeable step up from Oblivion.

Fallout 4 and the increasingly antagonistic approach Bethesda is taking towards modders and the like was kind of the final straw that Bethesda is no longer the visionary, progressive, company it used to be.

>>386479903
the witcher 3 is the best game ever made but skyrim is good

>>386478589
>Black Flag (I still want to find another game which comes anywhere close to that open water experience).

AC Rogue, it's basically Black Flag 1.5

>>386479120
>3D rail shooters
What do you recommend? I've only ever played Star Fox. I'll probably end up trying Sin & Punishment

>>386480047
Lol, and yet he calls others the problem.

Tasteless faggot ruining the industry right here folks.

>>386476132
please refrain from posting reddit memes, thanks

>I want a game that I'll play once for seven or so hours and maybe replay a few times years down the line and I'll happily pay 60 bucks for it

t. linear fags

>>386475536
People are now awakening that Call of Duty was right all along.
You can even murder jon snow

>>386480096
>I take pride in shitting up the board
>You're the reason the industry in shit

okay

>>386475536
Advanced Devtools included
extended map editor
You know it's THE feature.

>>386480159
>>386480047
shit taste, you don't even know what makes a good game, you're just like the rest of the casul masses, blinded by fancy presentation, oscarbait plots, and pretty graphics.

>>386480356
>I want a game that's 120 hours of walking around and using a dialog wheel of yes, yes, no, yes (rude) to talk to people because it makes me believe I'm really in the game because I don't have anything else to do with my life and play games as a form of escapism into literally anything to take me away from my shitty life rather than a medium by which you interact with a game world to overcome challenges and accomplishments based around skill.

t. Open world, nonlinear cucks

>>386478589
literally none of these are good games, assuming you mean GTA 5.

>>386480465
Are you ironically being a hipster twat? Remember what /jp/ warned us about ironic shitposter

>>386480237
i bet you like nintendo or some japanese shit culture

procedurally generated shit

>>386479558

The appeal of Dragon Quest is the simple yet solid combat mechanics nested within a world that promotes elements of exploration and resource management, supported by a charming aesthetic. Most modern turn based RPGs aren't evocative of the late 80's/early 90's console styled JRPGs which is where Dragon Quest secures its demographic. There really aren't any other big budget JRPGs like it coming out anymore

I don't think you could replicate the dungeon crawling and character progression aspects of Dragon Quest in another medium outside of table top stuff, wherein you'd lose all the other stuff like the aesthetic and soundtrack etc. Dragon Quest has never been about the story or characters anyway, so story telling mediums like movies and literature wouldn't do much for it

>>386475536
Souls was the next fad after Open world.

>/v/'s modern userbase wants railroaded videogames and thinks nonlinearity is cancer

Any suggestions for a new vidya image board? I know /v/ is dead, but it's carcass is starting to rot at this point.

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>>386475619
Please don't joke like that.

>>386480139
>the visionary, progressive, company it used to be
You must be a fucking retard. Bethesda has pumped out broken, shitty games well before Skyrim. They get a free pass because you get to "immerse yourself" in the world and be what you want, etc. Which you can't even fucking do anymore.

Dumbasses like you claim shit games like Skyrim are some of the best games ever and it's a part of the reason why this industry is garbage. Publishers see this and now know that they can pump out shitty, broken games and people will lap it up. Fuck it. We'll "fix" it later.

There is nothing in Skyrim or any Bethesda game that is revolutionary gameplay or even good gameplay. It's all clunky shit and checklists and numbers. I would say BotW or even some of the AC games are much better designed in terms of their gameplay and how it complements the game world. Skyrim does nothing.

>>386480542
>lol ur a escapism nerd for liking these games

I think you're on the wrong site, broski.

>>386480651
Solid combat mechanics in Dragon Quest? You could autobattle your way to the end of the 100 hours for fucks sakes.

Exploration? Here, go look through these three towns talking to useless ai for information until you find the one jabronie who forget his thirty year old macguffin in his closet that's actually a sacred orb.

Get the fuck outta here, man. Simple, yet solid gameplay mechanics. Dragon quest. Fuck.

>>386475536
In my experience open world RPG's are either amazing or shit, it seems harder to fuck up linear games but a good open world title is something else.

>>386480780
did todd howard violate you as a child or something? skyrim has it's flaws, but it's certainly far from bad

>>386480376
>shitting up the board
>by calling underage third worlders out on their shit opinions

>>386480574
I bet you like garbage tier slavshit.

Oh wait, you do. Fucking tasteless casual.

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>>386477710
>haha! I called it ASSFAGGOTS!
cringe

>>386476665
Skyrim has some of the worst gameplay I've ever personally experienced and I've been playing games since like 92.

>>386480961
You literally sound like a tumblrina at this point
>THOSE SHITLORDS DESERVE IT

All over somebody liking what you don't like.

>>386480952
>it's certainly far from bad
If you have no fucking standards maybe.

>>386480856

I didn't say you had to like it. But regardless of your personal opinions, that's what appeals to the fanbase it has. And considering that it's a very large fanbase, and that there's really no other series like it, I think it's pretty deserving of being a franchise

What other medium would Dragon Quest thrive in then?

>>386475619
How about a moba sports game like Madden or FIFA where everyone controls a different player. Literal esports, imagine

>>386481067
I couldn't give any less of a fuck about the dumb feelings of you retarded south americans

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>>386475536
Probably anything they can fit a lot of microtransactions into. And mostly loot crates. Then it will fade after the top 3 most popular games get all of the money because everyone is too poor to buy microtransactions for anything else. At that point, most of the other devs will give up and the selling point will be "we DON'T have microtransactions".

>>386481069
says the guy who thinks Use Your Witcher Sense 3 is the greatest game of all time.

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>>386477151
>that chart

>>386481158
>I'm dumb
okay

>>386481175
I didn't say shit about the Witcher. Keep fucking projecting though, dumb Betheshitbaby

>>386481048
>i heard i briton cunt rant about skyrim on the internet

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>>386475536
We need games like Long Dark or Dark Forest. A survival game fully dedicated to single player experience.

>>386475536
modestly multiplayer coopearative. It'll be good times.

>>386481175
>implying witcher senses are bad
YOU CANT EVEN NAME A BAD THING ABOUT IT YOU FAGGOT

go play your kirby shit

>>386478380
Fallout nv, fallout 1, fallout 2, morrowind, D and D.

>>386480097
More like most "gamers" grew up post Hollywood takeover of the industry

>>386481048
Chrono Trigger and other JRPGs have no fucking gameplay compared to Skyrim.

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>>386475776
>he prefer Far Cry games over Max Payne

>>386478873
If it's at leas on the same level of difficulty as Rising thunder then i don't mind. it will be first ALIVE pc fighting game. Lol drones will eat that shit up because there will be their favorite waifus and edgelords from league.

>>386481386
>implying FO3 didn't do exploration and atmosphere perfectly

I get the boring writing will never compare to NV's, but give credit where credit is due, man.

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Name a game mechanic that can't be done right, that is always without a doubt shit.

>>386478380
Only Fallout 2 and Gothic1/2 to be honest

>>386481290
No I can think for myself thanks. An example of decent first person combat would be dark messiah, Skyrim is fucking pathetic.

>>386481449
Some of the harder ones at least require preperation and decision making. Skyrim is just 2 guys swinging foam bats at each other until one dies.

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>>386475536
Childhood is idolizing linear experiences. Adulthood is realising that open-world makes more sense.

>>386481163
>seinfeld
>m
>y
what

Linear scripted games are shit. The explosion in nostalgia over systems-driven games, powered by long analysis by thoughtful youtubers, shows AAA is getting scared and going all in on pro-QTE propaganda

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>>386478710
>Just Cause 2
>Watch Dogs
>Breath of the Wild

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>>386481689
>dark messiah

>>386480543
>literally none of these are good games, assuming you mean GTA 5.

Look at this hipster faggot.

>>386475619
Isn't this the current fad? I'm pretty sure we've pass peak open-world somewhere back in 2013 or so.

>>386478978
How can you have a linear game without narrative? How do you bring the player to point B from point A, if they didn't choose to do it?

>>386481660

Any mechanic that wrenches control away from the player without their direct input/consent

>>386481790
Cool counter argument. Listen I get that skyrim serves as a decent mod platform or that immersionfags get immersed. But it absolutely does not have good gameplay. Or good story. Or good character design. Or good rpg mechanics.

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>>386481738
I love open world beyond all things but realistically the only objective reason it's better is cause the games are longer which saves you money long term. Beyond that real life benefit they're totally different and equally valuable.

>>386481969
I'm not sure what you mean. So like luck?

>>386481790
Not him, but Dark Messiah's combat was fucking FUN.

I remember spending hours just playing around with enemies instead of progressing with the story. Just to explore all the different ways I could kill them.

Whether it was setting them aflame, kicking them into spikes/barrels, getting them to slip off a cliff, impaling them, beheading them, dismembering them.

God, I'd love another first person RPG with such immersive fighting mechanics. That game was wonderful.

>>386481937
You're arguing with underaged faggots who think games should be 6 hour shootfest
>>386481985
okay

>>386478589
>when it came out it was good for its time
Okay but it's not 2011 any more. So are you saying it's no longer a good game?

>>386481937

There's a stark difference between narrative backdrop and a 'narrative heavy' experience

The only games that don't have any form of narrative are truly sandbox/simulation games, and often even those have -something-

>>386481985
World exploration and magic combat is objectively good in skyrim. You're right about everything else.

>>386481660
Very simple obstacles to progress that require an absurdly long amount of time to clear.
This is why I hate hack-and-slash games, by the way. They always have a single door that requires 45 minutes of fighting and switch-flipping to open and it makes me turn the game off every time.

>>386482061
Dying light. Has all that messing around to kill and the best parkour system in games.

>>386475536
Witcher3vsBloodborne.jpg

Except switch online mode.

>>386478997
>Just because you were 12
>implying anyone who was 12 when Skyrim came out would be old enough to legally post on this si-
oh my fuck.

>>386482056
Probably like scripted sequences, but you specified "mechanics" which scripting isnt really a part of. But to answer the question, linearity

>>386481969
That's not so much a mechanic, as it is an absence of mechanics.
What' you're describing is a cut-scene.

>>386482119
I'm saying Open-World games today are far better than their mainstream progenitor, Skyrim.

>>386482072

>underage

I'm pretty sure it's mostly oldfags who want their NES styled platformers and shumps. Open world games with repetitive mindless filler content are a recent casualfag sort of thing

>>386475536

Games trying really, really hard to be movies and failing miserably.

>>386481143
I'm a bit surprised this hasn't happened already honestly. Though I suppose it's due to having to rush out new games once a year, with online play being as big as it is you'd think this would be the next step.

>>386482276
I guess Demon's Crest is shit now by your shit standards then. Faggot.

>>386481143
>>386482376
This is already a game mode in FIFA and probably Madden too.

>>386481985
>But it absolutely does not have good gameplay
You can usually sneak and snip with arrows before going into melee, thats SOME element of good gameplay

>Or good character design
Come on now, Oblivion and Skyrim both had godly character graphics for the time. Yes they were lump potatoes in Oblivion but that was good for back then

>>386482387

I don't really think choosing the order in which you complete linear stages makes a game 'open world'. At least not in any modern sense

I'd still consider that pretty gosh darned linear. And that's not a bad thing.

>>386477698
>early access survival shooter
>Ark
Not a shooter
>Culling
PUBG on Arks engine (nobody plays anymore)
>PUBG
Not survival

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When are you faggots going to realize that both open world and linear games can be great? Pigeon holing games into some kind of autistically-designated categories based on how much fucking room you have to move within a given area of the game is the most retarded thing you can do. I can appreciate Super Mario 64, I can appreciate Crash Bandicoot. A good game is a good game. End of story.

>>386482226
Oh shit, yeah, I actually really liked that game, even bought the DLC when I was only halfway through the main campaign because I was enjoying it so much.

Then I managed to spoil myself on the DLC ending, and the entire game turned into a massive shaggy dog joke to me narratively speaking. Here the character was running around doing all this shit to help save survivors and the like- and it would ultimately end in literal flames.

I couldn't make myself keep playing after that, the story just felt so pointless.

Still though, love the gameplay of Dying Light, would love something similar in an immersive fantasy setting.

>>386475669
This.

>>386482061
>getting them to slip off a cliff
Best gaming memory is being chased by a troll in Oblivion, and then coming to a cliff and being trapped. As the troll jumped at me, I dropped down to a slightly lower ledge and ducked, and the troll went over my head, off the cliff, and died on the rocks below

The shit is why Oblivion and Skyrim are good, and why Power Armor Minigun Fallout 4 is bad

>>386475536
>It's this thread again

Inb4 500+ replies of people bitching.

>>386482056

Games like 3D Sonic titles that force you into 10+ second automated sequences in which you have no control over

>>386478380
Open world works great for capeshit style games
>Spiderman 2/any spiderman after
>Bamham
>Prototype 1/2
>Infamous 1/2 (didn't play 3)
>Far cry 3 (great at the time, it's a shame they didn't try to improve on it)
>Witcher 3

>>386482642
It's also why I like BoTW so much.

Environmental mechanics in open world games can be amazing.

>>386482589
I can't take a reasonable neutral stance because then I can't shitpost on vee anymore

Is /v/ going to complain about metroidvania design next? That's not linear at all

>>386482165
>magic combat is objectively good in skyrim
Another favorite gaming moment, I was grinding my flame hands ability, so I'd go around casting resurrection on dead bodies just so I could practice my flamethrower spell on them. Without intending to, I became an evil wizard, totally organically. Its p messed up to resurrect "allies" just to roast them. But the mechanics were robust enough to support it.

>>386475536
So, Call of Duty?

No thanks

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>>386477710
LoL is the first MOBA, dota released in 2012. LoL is the codifiers of the MOBA trope. If anything, dota IS a LoLlike.

ASSFAGGOTS is also fine to describe them.

>>386482926
FUCKING METROIDFAGS
FUCKING HIPSTER HOLLOW KNIGHT FAGS

>>386482642
>basic physics that can happen in any action game

casuals sure are easy to amaze

>>386483183
Name 5 good action games that have sizeable cliffs you can knock enemies off of while being able to access their base to loot the corpses.

>>386483137
>BRAAAAP

>>386483137
Dota was the first moba, existing as a W3 mod. Dota2 released after LoL, yes.

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>>386483137
Here's your >You

>>386483183
The difference is the troll wasn't spawned magically and specifically when I reached the cliff, and there wasn't an objective marker that led me to the spot where a cutscene action-cam would take over for 12 seconds with an orchestral swell and achievement popup

>>386483027

>>386483321
Far Cry
Horizon Zero Dawn
Breath of the Wild
Skyrim
Uncharted
Jackie Chan

>>386483696
Shit, meant linear ones that aren't open world

>Jackie Chan
I like you.

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>>386483597

>>386481660
Loot Boxes.

Escort missions where the NPC moves slower than your run and faster than your walk.

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>>386484853
>Escort missions where the NPC moves slower than your run and faster than your walk

>>386475536
Souls-like

>>386475619
this

>>386475669

This. PUBG will spark a desperate feeding frenzy for those sweet, sweet Twitch dollars. And all of them will somehow be done even worse than the original, even though the original isn't all that good.

>>386483597
aeon of strife was the first moba
you tried

>>386475536
Open world is only a "fad" if you're under 25. This shit has been around for decades.

Also JonTron is a fucking faggot.

>>386485221
What possessed you to mention Jontron?

>>386485303
To add credence to his post by mentioning a fact?

Also, the sky is blue.

>>386477594
No, the majority of an rpg's gameplay is done out of battle, deciding between equipment, spells, characters and how to build them… so, literally the same amount of out-of-battle shit. how the fuck could you possibly think otherwise? why would a single person ever play a jrpg otherwise? nothing to do outside combat, it boggles my mind that someone could be so retarded

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>>386485456
oookay

>>386475619
how does a MOBA disguised as other genre work?

give real world examples

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Besides Max Payne 1 and 2 (and maybe Resident Evil Remake), I have never played another game like this image describes.

Does /v/ know something I don't know?

>>386475536
>linear

fuck off retarded newfag

>>386485603
Smite.

>>386485195
My dick was the first moba you tried

this thread is fucking awful go die in a car crash you retarded mouth breathers

>>386475536
gatcha games and ported mobile games.

>>386485923
>>386485603

Also Paragon

>>386485959
Your dick was the first dick your mom tried.

>>386477710
Because that's an overdone shitty joke and it's just cringeworthy at this point.

When I hear someone calling a genre ASSFAGGOTS, I imagine their steam account name and profile have "ironic" memes and lewd anime involved and they use twitch memes in real life.

>2011
>"LINEAR!!!!! LINEAR!!!!!"

>2017
>"BLAND OPEN WORLD SHIT! REEEEEE"

Neck yourself you fucking children.

>>386485736
bioshock

>>386476468
Because open-world is a genre SO well known for its inventive gameplay.

I know you're a brainlet, but you could at least try not being a complete retard. Perhaps by shutting up.

>>386486393
Even when I made my post, I expected this meme response.

Plus Bioshlock is just a shitty copy of SS2, both of which are "non linear-linear" games.

>>386475536
We already have a next fad.

It is called VR.

>>386485736
Classicvania.

>>386486393
>higly polished

>>386486663
Even Simon's Quest?

>>386486519
>non-linear-linear


you mean linear-hub? also i think you're being too autistic about 'linear', otherwise the only games that would qualify are sidescrollers that never let you backtrack, or on-rails games.

>>386486826
Not generally considered a classicvania afaik.

>>386486106
Your mom's dick was dick first dick dick dick tried.

>>386486830
Max Payne 1 and 2 don't have hubs

Duke Nukem 3D and DOOM don't have hubs

Lots of games don't have hub worlds.

>>386486308
There's nothing wrong with linear games, but if every game is completely linear, that sucks. There should be a balance. It's called hub based games.

What about a series that was always open world, or ones that did it well liek Witcher 3?

>>386485516
Skyrim has far more shit to do out of battle than Chrono Trigger.

>>386481937
Mario?
Games can just be games

>>386475536
Open World was not a fad, it was the next stage of development. It's already standard.

>>386475619
This is the current fad. Lots of examples.

>>386475669
This is probably it. People chasing pubgs success, not realizing how much of a twitch/tuber fad it is.

>>386475794
Won't be a fad, is is the next stage of development. It will still be a another few years made-for-VR explosion actually kicks off.

>>386486519
Bioshock 1 is closer to the original SS, and anyone who knows his games knows that SS1 shits all over that bloatfest that is SS2.

>>386487206
Admitting that some open-world games can be good and some linear games can be bad? Get the fuck out of here that's crazy.

Can't have moderation on /v/

>>386475619
>>386475669
both of these combined

>>386487476
>Calling SS2 a bloatfest

Jesus

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>>386477151

>>386485603
DoW 3. I didn't see it, but everyone else seems to think it.

>>386486308
>devs only make one thing for an entire console generation
>people complain
who would've thought

>open world
>linear single player
>pay2win

best gami !

>>386481660
Putting the player in a fail state without telling them while continuing to let them play. Bonus points if they can save their data after triggering the failure flag of no return.

>>386477151
man i really hate this industry

>>386475536
Hopefully pirate games

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>>386475536
That picture pretty much sums up my opinion.
It's also why I'm a huge fucking weeb.

>>386477151
I work in the business side of the industry and what this man says is true. I've already heard several times that the "big names" would totally stop developping solo-only or even solo-focused AAA games within the next 5 years.

>>386491186
I'd be cool with it, if it meant co-op games.

But I know it doesn't.

>>386486393
Bioshock is only good because it has an interesting setting and story but gameplay wise it's ass.

>>386475536
>yfw gone home is now 4chan's 10/10
really make you think.

>>386482596
Zombie media ends with everyone dying like 95% of the time.

>>386477869
Delete your 4chan account, kid. Ya fucked yer meme cred.

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>>386475536

Old fad

>>386475619

Current fad

>>386475669

New fad

The next step will be VR once the price has reached true consumer levels.

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>>386475619
>>386475669
>>386477151
>>386477852

>>386492268
only if you're a casul who tried to rambo his way through the game without using plasmids, mines, different ammunition and planning his approach carefully.

>>386492281
>implying gay homo is tonally consistent and highly polished

>>386479095
Woah, it is almost like if i condense every story it's about a big bad thing that wants to destroy the main characters world, woahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Seriously though, it's about the journey to the end, not the actual end that is the good bit

>>386486927
balls are zero to me to me to me to me to me