I started this today. Am I supposed to be getting oneshot in

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Yes.

It's pretty tough starting out, until you start getting used to the system and learning weaknesses. Try to talk as many demon's as you can into joining you early on.

I can't believe this thread isn't filled with Walter-posting yet...

This game is brutal early and easy mid/late and hard post-game, if you want a version with a much smoother difficulty curve play apocalypse

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Naraku is the hardest part of the game

Naraku is pretty hard if you aren't used to SMT. Like the other anon said, recruit lots of demons. Once you get past Naraku the game dials the difficulty back until near the end.

>>386468424
Why is he beating up Jonathan instead of Walter?

>>386468908
That's Flynn with his hair ruffled

>>386468185
You can save at any time. Abuse that. Also try not to spend money getting revived if resetting the game would do the same thing.

>>386468770
But isn't Apocalypse a sequel? And this was just twenty bucks on the eshop so I thought what the hell.

>>386468680
Hoy

>>386469051
Apocalypse is better made in nearly every respect, but the story will be meaningless to you without having played 4 first. It's just something to look forward to.

>>386469051
Apocalypse is a sequel but it's also a much better game and you don't have to play the first one at all, it actually just makes it worse

>>386468185
yes, your only defensive stat is HP and it's really easy to die to bad luck/weaknesses getting hit
just a tip for demon negotiation, give them one or two things and then end the conversation. it makes them more likely to join you. if you keep giving them stuff they'll just leave or attack you

>>386468185
Spam saves. Save after every battle. Save every time you buy something. Save every 30 seconds.

Also, there is a reason why first fun copies of this game came with a starter strategy guide. Its difficult to new players.

The game's difficulty curve actually goes in reverse. It starts out pretty unforgiving, but once you get to Tokyo it drops way off and becomes piss-easy.

>>386468989
I sure wish the game over animation was faster..

>>386469308
I'm putting a lot of points into dex and have mostly gun/physical skills... should I switch this to magic? I just beat ose so I don't know how far I am, I'd imagine still pretty close to the beginning. .

>>386468185
The difficulty curve in IV vanilla us basically broken beyond belief, but its still pretty fun and has great side quests so soldier on.

Bufu or die

>>386470410
I bet you're weak to fire, you idiot!

>>386469814
Home button, close game, start game.

>>386470034
If you beat ose the rest of the game is piss easy, dex is the most powerful build but it requires macca grinding, magic is almost as strong but it doesn't require macca grinding

>>386470517
But neutral is forming your own opinion? Law lets fucking GOD decide everything for you, and Chaos just lets you sit on the throne for five minutes until lucifer/demon uprising ruses you right back off it again.

>>386470034
Dex is stupidly broken in IV. if you pump that stat you will crit and smirk like every fucking attack without trying at the end of the game.

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We all agree these are the two best tracks from the OST right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDsDYCI3fyc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik

4 is so insultingly easy that I've come to despise it. It sets a decent first impression with the early game being so difficult, then you get MP regen app and you just sit there spamming skills and magic and your equip has almost no purpose at all in the game, my second cycle of the game I rebirthed and didn't buy any armor or weapons until i got the endgame stuff that actually does something

It just feels like shit when you have an rpg and your gear has 0 impact on the game, given the series history I really don't understand why they would take the battle system in a direction that makes physical attacks / gun attacks irrelevant and just have you spam skills, which aren't affected but your actual attack or gun stat. It would have some use if you didn't have infinite MP at all times thanks to the app, and thus needing to pace yourself resource wise.

>>386470953
L+R+START+SELECT

>>386470953
Wow I feel fucking stupid now. Thank you though haha

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>>386473050
>>386473050
>We all agree these are the two best tracks from the OST right?
Nope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcZHm4VllDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrx1sZYgp7E

>>386472891
Ah good shit, not gonna lie I definitely like being op by the end of the game. That ose fight was a pain in the ass for a bit bc my team is utter shit right now. Working on changing that tho.

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>>386473050

Is there a thread for this game in vg?

How's tha Citra 3ds emu? Is smt4 playable with sound and dlc yet?

>>386473604
>>185241010

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>>386468185
Everything up to Medusa is one of the hard sections in any MegaTen I've played, and I ha already been familiar with how to play the game because I had played a good number of games in the series beforehand, so don't worry about it.

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>STR build in SMTIVA
Nothing is more fun that punching demons.

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>>386473050
Ikebukuro Underground District>Tokyo
You were close, though.

I habe to ask, am I shitter if I cheesed Lilith? She was brutal for me, I found a demon that absorbs gun attacks and ended the battle with just the demon who kept getting healed from dream needle.

>>386473821
the random encounters are harder than the boss fights, and the boss fights are only bullshit if they open on you first.

the start is just overtuned, not exactly difficult, it just boils down to RNG which is insanely anti fun in almost any game that is dominated by it.

Even later in the game, playing on master difficulty, you can get destroyed by the boss getting a first turn at any point in the game, not just the start, but also if you get the first turn you destroy them instead, the game is a complete fucking joke balance wise.

>>386470517
That's not neutral though.
Neutral is not sitting on the fence or inaction, but trying to be reasonable with your decisions and not swinging too hard at one side. Something everyone seems to complain about getting neutral route, even though that was the point.

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>>386473943
Is WORLD OF STRENGTH possible in SMTIV:A? I still need to play it but magic was so much better then strength in IV it wasn't even funny.

>>386473998
Cheesing bossfights is one of the most fun parts about SMT, so long as you figure out how to cheese them yourself. If you looked up a guide, that's the only thing that would make you a shitter.

>>386474069

Or you could level agi.

why is Baphomet a law demon? isnt he like a very evil demon?

>>386474168
I did world of STR in both games and it worked out just fine. I'm not sure if magic is better or not, but strength is totally viable.

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>>386474168
Rare Walter thread?

>>386473998
that isn't cheesing. the enemy was stupid enough to fight with guns and so you rematched it with something that resists guns. You beat it legit by covering your weaknesses and outplaying it.

>>386474168
Weren't magic(INT) and guns(DEX) better than melee weapons (STR)?

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>>386474168
WORLD OF STRENGTH is best build in Apocalypse, since you get pierce ability later on, and strength actually scales with physical skills, instead of dex taking both phys and gun skills like in 4.

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>>386474190
I was lucky and found it by chance. I forget the name but I was using that one spider woman demon. I felt cheap for it but lilith rekt my shit so hard I didn't care.

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>>386474237
I think he was first originally seen as a symbol of good luck for Crusaders, or something like that. He only began to be associated with witchcraft later on.

>>386474191
what does that have to do with anything? Who doesn't level agi? who doesn't have a team of demons with draconic reaction? it still doesn't make much difference, the game comes down to enemies hitting you before you can get buffed up most of the time, that's when you get BTFOd

Pretty much no build in SMT4 should have no agi or luck, if dex you go 3 1 1 if magic you go 3 1 1, you'll always almost be blue bar on any build in agi

>>386473236
That's not Fire Emblem

>>386474168
STR is the best build in Apocalypse since it has the highest raw damage output.

>>386474387
INT is better than STR, and DEX is actually just STR but better. DEX scales both phys and gun attacks for some ungodly reason and STR just scales phys.

>>386468185
I feel like brutal tutorials are actually much better game design.
A regular tutorial showing you the button once in a playpen environment and then letting you progress doesn't really make mechanics stick very well.
If the game insists on killing you over and over until you stop being a scrub you're going to actually learn how to use everything you're given and it will be a better game later.

>>386474657
but anon, this scares away the casuals. what are devs supposed to do, make good games that sell less?

The abominations in my possession vary slightly from the standard of which other abominations are measured

>>386473723
Sooo... no?

>>386475015
there is a smt general afaik. just go to /vg/ and search smtg

>>386474428
alright, is he good? I am playing SJ and want to fuse a demon with my Principality

>>386469308
>spoiling tokyo
Nigger

>>386475213
>SMT game takes place in Tokyo
Wooooow!

>>386473050
I use Tokyo as my ringtone.

>>386475015
>>>/vg/185241010

>>386472891
Dex doesn't affect crits and smirks. Luck affects both of those. So it's good to pump stat points in both and some in agility too. Dex is still broken in IV like you say because devs made it affect the power of both Gun and Phys skills so much

>>386475050
I don't remember if he's good in SJ. If he looks good to you, then go for it.

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>Declaring you'll follow the law route gives you 15 points towards law
>Declaring chaos gives you 5

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>>386474301

>>386475763
Makes sense. If you're chaotic, why would you commit yourself to a single path?

>>386475551
I havent seen him do that much, I think I should just level up other demons, I have that raven looking demon that has tarukaja, what demon should I use to fuse him? a healer demon?

>>386475335
Not everybody who plays IV knows what SMT is, when I played it I didn't. OP pretty clearly doesn't, you're a dick.

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>>386475932

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Why are the lawfags always worse then the chaosfags? I say this a neutralfag.

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Since this is an SMT thread, how do you guys feel pic related stacks up next to Walter?

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>>386476065
Walter was a nice boy

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>>386475981
You're almost always better off fusing new demons than leveling up the ones you already have.

>>386476065
Because your jealous that you'll never know His grace and live happily in the Millennium Kingdom.

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>>386476105
Nothing beats HOY but chaosfags are typically more amusing as characters.

Also we need more rare walters.

>>386473481
Ose is a fuck because Blight is stupid broken and stays broken right up until close to the end

>>386476018
Retard, even before release we knew you got to Tokyo in SMT4 after Naraku. It isn't a secret and shouldn't be treated like one.

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>>386476262
>being anyone's bitch
Demi had the right idea, fuck everythimg and get power.

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I'm sorry, but the best track in the game is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwQuxPHQCeo

That fucking cyberpunk feel. It fits a game about running through underground Tokyo filled with demons using future tech perfectly.

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Interested, while many say IV:A is better where do you guys feel IV sits overall in regards to SMT asca whole? I think it's pretty up there.

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>>386476503
Typical Chaosfag idiocy.

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>>386476806
Nocturne > IV:A > SJ > IV > II > I

IV:A has the best non grid based turn based system I've ever seen but the story and characters are an atrocity.

>>386476960
Nah, I'm a NOOTRALfag myself, chaosfags are just more entertaining overall.

>>386476806
Has some flaws but a very solid entry in the series. Seemed like it was getting some undeserved hate in the SMT community after it came out because of it being a portable game, having easier fusion and save system, and not having the same sense of isolation Nocturne did. But recently I've been seeing a lot more love for it

>>386473050
Step aside, nigger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg_uVEd-ApE

>>386477073
Story itself isn't even bad but holy fuck the characters. I was relieved with IV's cast after fearing they may go the persona route. IV:A then immediately does that. SMT was never about it's characters but they still are memorable in their own right. The amount of waifu bait in IV:A was disgusting. Still, combat was fucking excellent so it more then makes up for it.

>>386469051
it's more fulfilling playing through 4 and then doing apocalypse so you actually get everything going on from the get go, as it starts partway through the ending of 4's neutral route

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>>386476960
>>386476262
I see you are a man of taste. Nothing is better than serving our Lord, knowing that the future is safe and peacefull.

>i will let demons run amok and kill everyone
>i will let the cycle continue

Law is and always be the best alignment.

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daily "I got neutral on my first go without a walkthrough" bragposter here, feel free to quote me and bask in my neutral-ness

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>>386477515
>combat was fucking excellent so it more then makes up for it.
That's why it's second but the aesthetic of Nocturne puts it just a spot above me personally. Also thought Nocturne had better dungeons, the Diet Building is still my favorite one from the series but the White Temple and Tower of Kagutsuchi can fuck off with their random teleporters.

>>386477827
how

>>386477827
Enjoy getting buttfucked by Lucifer and God 25 years later, nootralfag.

>Start SMT on my iPhone
>Get to Crystal Realm and get tired of it
>Start Nocturne
>Beat Matador but now stuck on Thor and drop it for awhile
>Want to try SMTIV but worried that I'll buy a 3DS just for a game I'll probably give up on

Why I went neutral. Also holy fuck is this theme good though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSmi8ZOSno

>>386477827
I thought i was going the same way, that one boss was saying i was neutral before i even realized how the routes worked, but then choosing to kill Lilith messed things up. I thought it was the best choice because while the game said i was neutral i felt i leaned more towards chaos on average so i wanted to compensate. I'm retrying following Walter this time

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>>386478165
This desu.

>>386478164
maybe it's not for you but if you like it you have that, apocalypse and strange journey coming... uh whenever that comes

>>386478108
There will always be someone who will need to preserve order, there is no true answer. This is why neutralfags are right.

>>386478242
WHERE THE FUCK DO I FIND ISABEAU LEWDS

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4 had the best version of Fiend, fight me faggots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhhhsvS9CeU

>>386477827
What makes a man go neutral?

>>386477718
>as it starts partway through the ending of 4's neutral route
I thought IV:A takes place in a alternate reality from IV where things worked out differently? Sorry, haven't played it yet so maybe I'm wrong.

>>386474168
Magic is broken as fuck in 4, but in 4:A STR + LUK steamrolls the game

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>>386478362
who knows

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>>386478362
That's a secret.

>>386478374
Step aside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR6pHaeRV3w

>>386473427
Man I already feel nostalgia for this game.

>>386478374
>Chemtrails is fiend

wat

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>>386478374
This is the best fiend theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvap8gkDfB8

>>386477865
I agree with you honestly. I know people are sick of the circleferk for it but nocturne really was the best overall. I feel other games may have better individual aspects but nocturne as a whole beats all in my opinion.

>>386478468
>>386478554
Please do not torment me, I need more of this thicc browed, sideburn qt

>>386478362
They're rare. A drawfag from the draw threads here did a pretty good titfuck pic of her awhile ago. Check the booru.

>>386478445
It is an alternate reality that takes place 3/4 into IV's plot right after Flynn chooses the Neutral Route.

>>386469183
>>386469205
I adore that both of these are so similar and directly next to one another

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>>386478445
Extremely minor spoiler here:

In SMT IV, the main character from IV : A exists but makes a certain choice sometime in the middle of SMT IV's neutral route, and as a result of that choice he does not become important enough to the story to ever mention.

In IV:A however, once you have control of him you can choose to make the opposite choice, and thus the game after that point is treated as a "what-if" scenario for if IV:A's kid had chosen to do the opposite thing.

The devs specifically say that this doesn't make IV or Apocalypse more canon than the other, because now that they've both been "witnessed" by us, they both equally exist as canon.

>>386477336
no you step aside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgCvnkg4ncY

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>>386478687
Sorry, don't have much that I can post here.

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>>386477905
I'm an indecisive fuck irl

>>386478230
In all honesty, I technically got Chaos as my first real ending, but I had a save right before the decision where you got locked in, and made the opposite choice thinking I might be close enough to shoot over to Law, but instead I hit Neutral.

>>386478362
draw them yourself

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>>386468680

>>386468185
What's the general consensus on IV? I found it pretty boring and uninteresting compared to the other SMT games I've played.

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JUST

>>386479549
ayy lmao

I can't believe I put this game down for so long and stopped so early
I spent so long at the start trying to get a feel for all the systems (hadn't played an SMT game yet at that point but eventually went on to spend months playing 3, 4 and then 5)

I dropped it because I was bothered by how faggy everyone talked and the setting, the no walking around world but just menuing to different places
picked it back up recently because my internet got cut off because my ISP is retarded and turns out I'd stopped exactly before you make it into tokyo

I laughed so hard at myself, that I was relieved and ended up pouring a good 12 hours straight.
Still haven't gotten exactly used to team synergy just yet, and its so straightforward in its story progression theres not much to get distracted by, but easily lost if you've forgotten what you should be doing. Music is really good.
I will admit P5 spoiled me by how streamlined the fusion process was compared to this.

Maybe I don't need it, but what are some no brainer tips that anyone who's finished the game would just know by instinct that would come in handy?

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>>386479549
>go chaos 'cause Walter is a pretty hoy guy
>get saddled with this uppity squid as a partner
that's what I deserve I guess

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I want Hikaru to dominate me!

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>>386479549
>>386479681

>>386479685
>Maybe I don't need it, but what are some no brainer tips that anyone who's finished the game would just know by instinct that would come in handy?

winged demons are frequently weak to gun

>>386478973
the thematic and philosophical concepts in iv and especially in iva are really well done to be honest

>>386479779
SMT IV: Ayypocalypse

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>>386474301

>>386479520
honestly for me it was a pretty awesome game. and that's coming from someone who loves smt 1,2 and nocturne. I hated apocalypse tho, and it saddens me that the franchise is taking a more persona/anime like direction instead of a more obscure one like the older games.

>>386477827
I got neutral on my first run while trying to get chaos because I spared everybody in the tournament quest.

>>386479685
No-brainer tips: Decide whether you want your build to be Dex or Magic. Both are good in this game. Strength isn't very good because they made Dex scale better with all Phys and Gun attacks for some reason. That was fixed in the sequel Apocalypse.

Don't read SMT threads too much or you'll be spoiled to everything that happens in every game and SMT fans just meme back and forth about which games/characters/routes suck

>>386479836
P5 taught me that, didn't put the 2 and 2 together for a bit but after like 10 minutes after getting the gun I just thought "oh, of course"

The Scouting in this game frustrates the hell out of me. It was way too easy in P5 but this just gets silly sometimes.

>>386479685
>I will admit P5 spoiled me by how streamlined the fusion process was compared to this.
You're probably just not used to the fusion system in IV, because it's better in IV. The only issue with fusion in IV is that you can't do basic fusions but they fixed that in IV:A.

>>386480150
> IV is that you can't do basic fusions
maybe i'm being dense but what do you mean

>>386470517
Neutral isn't even "neutral" in these games, it's more like siding with humanity/harmony

>>386480150
No, I'm not too far into the game. I just got the Demonica suit and have about, 3 or 4 terminals activated.
Is Tokyo the whole hub of the game that you eventually go back and forth through or does it expand out some more/new areas?

You can do basic fusions, but you have to specify to include one of the lesser demons you want to get rid of, if thats what you might mean.

>>386470953
>>386473307
Actually there's something a little easier than quitting the game every time. After you go through the River Styx for the first time you can skip the video and his dialogue and just say no to him both times so you don't pay. You'll get a game over screen and got right back to the main menu in very little time.

>>386479685
Fusion search in IV is really damn good and I use that a lot in IV:A to get through bosses

No basic fusion in IV though, they add it back in IV:A

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What do you guys want for SMT5?

Hoping for a lot of new demons. Having now played quite a lot of the games I miss being totally unfamilar with demons. I would love to see some more cryptids as demons, a flatwoods monster would be great.

>>386480098
What about luck?

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>>386476503
>>being anyone's bitch
>Demi had the right idea, fuck everythimg and get power.
>Demifiend becomes lucifers bitch.

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>>386480446
A soundtrack as good as this one, I genuinely think this is the best MegaTen OST. DDS is a close second though.

>>386480315
Basic fusion is just adding two demons of choice from your stock and see the result. IV has fusion search that you can expand for more options like including the whole compendium and see what fusion will result in certain skills. IV:A has both

Quick question.

I just unlocked the shopping district in ginza, what is the best ultimate armor from the store? I was thinking of going demonica just because the demonica armor looks so fuckimg cool but I'm not sure. Magic user if that matters.

>>386480446
Dark/Light as well as Chaos/Law alignments, with endings for each combination.

>>386480469
Very good to combine with Dex. Or you could run a badass status effect/instakill build but it'll suck.

>>386480569
I agree with you on both points. DDS had such a good OST, I even loved Danger because of how well it hypes you up for the game.

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>>386480569
fucking sick cover, why couldn't that be the cover of the game?

>>386480315
You can't just pick Demon A and Demon B and fuse them, you have to go through the fusion search.

>>386480374
You're mostly just in Tokyo, and I know you can do basic fusions like that, but it's a needlessly roundabout way to do it, which is why they fixed it in IV:A.

>>386480374
there's a big ass dome over tokyo bub, where exactly would you go?

>>386480793
I hate the actual cover, it doesn't even hide Johnathan and Walters alignments

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>>386480446
New skills and magic
more boss rushes
maybe have two protags so that you fight with one and their team of demons and then switch to another protag and their demons
also more options for routes other than law, chaos, or neutral like pic related

>>386480660
Nibelungen is by far the best armor in IV

>>386480374
Tokyo is big, and pretty annoying to navigate too. Take your time

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>>386479779

>>386480446
I want a dark story and no anime characters designed by that retard that works on persona.
Basically I want kaneko back.

>>386480893
>it doesn't even hide Johnathan and Walters alignments

....neither does the game?

It's revealed in like the first minute what side each is playing for in Flynn's dream

>>386480861
This tells me all I need to know sick. good.

>>386480815
It is pretty annoying but so long as I can get rid of the shit I need fused then good. Just checking.

>>386480983
Oh I gathered as much. Hard to just keep track of where I need to go and where I currently am.
Demon domains spit out an absurd amount of EXP compared to the bosses at the end of them. Is the purpose of them just "heres a host of demons you ought to have, and will quickly get you to the level you need to be" or what?

>>386468424
>Keep hearing this boss is hard
>reach him
>BUFULA
>"Weak"
This boss prepared me for the disappointment of the bosses after.

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>>386480446
I want a section like in SMT1 where you spend a good chunk of the game in a world before the apocalypse. I know that's what they were going for with Mikado, but they didn't spend enough time there. Less bias in the alignments and a YHVH Jack Frost would also be appreciated.

>>386468770
>Hard
Yeah okay casual

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>>386479779
>this is the first twelve-winged Lucifer in the series instead of the one Kaneko planned to do
I like Doi, but this is a shame.

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>>386482114
A guest artist did the original >>386479549 and Doi tried to salvage it.

If you want to see a true shame then look no further than pic related.

>>386481846
>bufula
What fucking level were you?

>>386482574
I know the guest artist did it, but Doi chose to give him the twelve wings, though now that I think about it, I think Kaneko did a twelve-winged Lucifer too. I thought I had read that he planned to do a true form of Lucifer down the line, seeing as Helel and Lucifer each have six wings, neither being the twelve-winged version, but maybe I just imagined that.

Anyone else a luck boy?
For every first run in any game I max luck first.

>>386480446
I want a console title now that they have new demon models to use from P5.

>>386483548
We already know they're making it on console and they're using the models from P5.

>>386482752
Heqet evolved into Dzelarhons
26 level luck
Says she want to learn Bufula

>>386476960
I'm a man of law too but c'mon Metatron
"The greatest and most mysterious of the angels.
He has many names, such as the Voice of God and Angel of Contracts. In contrast to his duty to maintain the world, he is said to have a merciless side toward humanity."
>merciless side toward humanity
>pretty nice guy

>>386484173
You were overleveled as fuck dude. Also magic is insane early game and allows for easy extra turns. On a a physocal run minotaur is fucking insane and one of the hardest SMT bosses.

>>386483548
to me smt v would be the reason to finally get a ps4. But atlus is really mediocre as a company, they reuse the shit out of their assets and don't exploit the pc market.

>>386483209
I don't max it, but I do level it along my primary stat for most games.

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>>386485384
They were asking for it, way I see it he was doing a favor to all of those who believe in Him and carry out His will by showing no mercy to those who oppose Him. It's pretty nice of him.

>>386485637
I was like level ~14
Heqet is a level 3 demon

>>386485908
Nice

>>386480384
See that seems like the long way to do it to me. Why would they make the game like this instead of just asking you once, then if you say no just gimme the game over. It was fine the first time but doing it everytime pisses me off. I guess it's not a big deal, but if ya get one shotted or some bs like that it's just salt in the wound with how slow the game over is.

Yeah yeah yeah I know gitguddd

>>386484173
Dzhelarhon gives you Agilao, try again.

>>386468680
I'll end it thus

>>386484173
OK, so one of the hardest bosses in the game was really easy to you because you lucked out and one of your demons conviently wanted to change a skill into one you wouldn't have been able to learn until you grinded a lot more levels. Congratulations.

>>386487398
SHE ASKED IF SHE COULD CHANGE A SKILL YOU FUCK

>>386488865
>>386488359

Saying as few spoilers as possible, is it true that the game is longer if you go neutral? What is the extra stuff and how much longer does it make the game?

>>386488359
Yeah, eat a dick
LUCK STAT RULES

>>386490460
Yes, it's longer, but part of it depends on how much you know about it. It has two extra final dungeons instead of one and there's extra "important" sidequests that you need to complete as a main quest. Most people do every sidequest in the game, thinking that's what they need to do, but there's only a select few that need to be done, most of them probably done throughout the game if you check for quests often. Still, who wouldn't do every sidequest anyway, right?

Still, getting neutral in itself is hard as heck. Don't worry too much about it.

>>386488359
SMT IV's bosses are a cakewalk

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This handsome man walks up and uses agi on your minotaurs ass. what do?

>>386491554
Summon a bit different demons

>>386491554
ツ

>>386491554
Accept my fate and die.

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>>386491554
Watch the dumb fuck get Labrys Striked by my Minotaur.

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>>386490916
>SMT IV's bosses are a cakewalk
Wrong.

>>386491879
>look sideways

lol what now thot

>>386491879
Okay you got me this time
>>386491960
THIS

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Why is School Shooter-kun such a fucking loser?

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>>386476262

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>>386492172
I know you think you're poking holes in the logic of Law, but Chaosfags are neurotic, totally illogical and silly.

>>386492092
>becoming a nietzchean superman
>loser

pick one lawnigger

>>386473673
Pretty shitty still. Just get a used 3DS or 2DS, they're so cheap these days.

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>>386477827
I am proud of you, fellow human being.

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>>386492457
As if lawfags aren't

>>386492472
He's a "superman" that gets his ass handed to him on the regular, despite him being armed to the teeth and being able to set people ablaze with his mind, and his girlfriend just settles for him because the Hero has standards too high to settle for her.

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>>386492796
What alignment is JC Denton?

Can I go full agility/luck?

>>386492859
Dark age = neutral
Illuminati = law?
Helios = neutral/law

>>386493115
Would siding with Page be chaos? Reminder that was originally going to be in the game.

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>>386493180
Probably

>>386492867
I did, it was tops.

>>386468863
hard*

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>>386476467
I did not know it, faggot. IV was my furat SMT and i did not know nothing from the series before. The Tokyo part was fucking mind-blowing to me.

>>386492092
He didn't listen to the word of God and get ascended into Heaven for his piety.
In the end he just bitched out and betrayed the party in true edgelord fashion.

>>386474428
>internet arguments.png

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>>386493523
>An SMT game taking place in Tokyo was mind blowing

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Say something nice to Zelenin.

>>386493651
Re-read.

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>>386494154
Your singing voice is incredible.

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>>386493651
>I can't read for shit.

I'm sorry, faggot, not everyone born as smt pro player. I got the game on one of those multiple atlus sales and if I'm completely honest with you, buying smt iv was one of my best decisions ever in vidya terms.

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>>386480446
I wanna see a Last Bible (megami tensei gaiden) remake with that ancient world biblical-mythological universe feel
Last Bible 1 was my shit as a kid

>>386494278
>>386494398
I don't give a fuck if you've never played an SMT game before, everyone knows they all take place in Tokyo except SJ. It's one the series defining features.

>buying smt iv was one of my best decisions ever in vidya terms.
Glad to hear, what others have you played?

>I don't give a fuck if you've never played an SMT game before, everyone knows they all take place in Tokyo except SJ.

How are you supposed to know that if you've never played/touched/looked at a SMT game before?

>>386494154
Failure as a human being.

>>386494704
Meant for >>386494602

Borroughs a cute. CUTE!

>>386494602
Apologize, it's not hard and you're anonymous.

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>>386480446
open world done right
to see all the demons on screen
more skills for the demons outside battle like the raidou games
mature story without anime tropes

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>gibs macca!
>gibs MP!
>gibs life stone!
>okay bye :^)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK THIS BITCH

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>>386495440
>open world

>>386473050
i like Ikebukuro more than the second one you posted. tokyo theme is god-tier tho

IM GOING TO STUDY HARD .... IM GOING TO STUDY HARD

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>>386495751
>not wanting to explore a post-apocalyptic tokyo full of demons

>>386495751
SMT3 was originally meant to be open world mate. The overworld was not supposed to exist. Instead, you could explore the Vortex World freely. Of course, they scrapped that due to budget reasons, but I'd like to see them revisit it.

>>386496376
I've already done that in Nocturne, IV and IV:A. Open world and JRPG are terms that are not compatible, look no further than FFXV to see that.

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>>386497193
Ho?

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>>386497193
Buddy...

>>386497193
KOWASHITAI

>>386497193
Don't open it

what'd I miss?

what?

>>386497423
Anon did a long post about Fire Emblem for some reason.

>>386497193
Did you mean to post in another thread anon?

>>386495713
that's what you get for being a beta cuck, demon bitches love alpha chads

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I apologize for the Fire Emblem post.
Have a hoy.

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>>386498664

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>>386498997
Holy fuck.

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>Want to play these glorious SMT games
>Only have PC

Sigh, is there a way to emulate them correctly?

>>386468185
Yes, the game's difficulty is horribly balanced. by the time you get to tokyo you'll never lose again

>>386499972
yes
you can easily emulate the ps2 ones
IV and IV:A you can emulate on Citra, i'm doing so myself and i get 90%-ish speed in Naraku in IV with slightly choppy sound but it's entirely playable, battles are 100%.

>>386499972
You can emulate all of them before the current generation. Maybe the 3ds ones eventually.

Why do people claim that Minotaur is hard again?

I beat him on my second or third try and that was with Walter as my assist. Then again, Walter never cast Agi once in that battle.

Also, I just beat the first boss in Ikebukuro. How far into the game am I?

>>386501429
Half way there. Maybe 1/3.

>>386501429
That wasn't Xi Wang Mu, right? If it was, that's about a third of the game.

post demonfus

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>>386504226

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>>386504226

>>386473050
I loved the 80's aesthetics with the OST.

>>386504226
Does female Demifiend count?

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>>386473050
>Battle c2 not there
Nope.

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>>386504782
Yes.

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>>386505360
I prefer the more buff ones that look like the original flavor.

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>>386505662
Too butch for me.

>>386505892
Whatever works for you, friend.

>>386478973
>In SMT IV, the main character from IV : A exists
Where?

>>386505662
good taste

>>386506307
He's irrelevant, so you never meet him.

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>>386504782
>>386505360
>>386505662
>>386505892

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>>386473050
C O R R E C T
O
R
R
E
C
T
There should be more bells in boss fight songs.

>>386506407
Thanks, anon! I'd dump, but there's not enough images of her that like that.

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>>386506498

>>386475341
My nigga
It's been my ringtone for at least a year

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>>386507030
Don't reply to me with that filth.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDsDYCI3fyc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc5rboSunV0
Which one?

>>386506307
I meant exists as in he is alive somewhere during the game, but he's never important to the plot so you don't meet him

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>>386507281
I feel IV:A's ambient OST seems more fitting for the old Nanashi design. They are comfy and light compared to IV's more fast paced and aggressive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSriLpQm9cE

>>386473050
Glad someone else agrees on that boss track, its A1

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I have to ask, is DDS more filled with anime bullshit? I haven't played them yet and was thinking of starting them soon so I looked up videos and am a bit mixed.
>fully voiced cutscenes
>more story focused
>every character has brightly colored hair
>characters seem to fall into tropes
>no demon recruiting, party is made of friends that seem to all fine and happy
I'm sure I'm wrong but watching some videos kind of gave me a weird idea, this doesn't seem like SMT at all really tone wise.

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>>386507846
That's quite a radical change, wondered what sparked that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5XZzTq_gzI

>>386507971
its probably the least anime inspired game in the series, even less than IV

>>386494154
She is very cute in this shot.

Someone has that pic of homer hoy flying in a skateboard?

>>386507846
Sometimes it sounds like a kazoo in the background, what instrument is that?

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>>386507971
>fully voiced cutscenes
Yukiko voices one of the main characters so it's all good.

>>386491879
I want 4A Medusa to give me a blowjob and then turn me into stone just as cum in her mouth, my ecstasy forever a part of her collection.

>>386507971
its pretty much FFIX with SMT

It is pretty anime but not highschool anime like persona, I love it but it has anime tropes out the ass.

>>386508591
Never played FFIX, never been a fan of FF, so that comparison doesn't really mean anything to me. Still, I'm sure if it was that bad I would hear it criticized so I guess they're not that annoying. Just seemed like such a change from the other SMT games I played.

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>>386509017
The only thing that sucks about DDS is unless you're clairvoyant it's the only MegaTen game where you will more than likely have to grind.

The only SMTs i have beaten were 4 and 4A. Would SMT 1/2 be too hard for me to get into? I know 4/4A have a pretty big list of QoL changes.
How hard are the previous games compared to 4A in special? Even Apocalypse mode was fairly easy, despite the random dodges, besides a few bosses.

>>386509251
only for the buffs and debuffs, the offensive and healing skills are pretty obvious

like fuck why the hell are the buffs and debuffs mixed in with the curse/expel trees

>>386474540
Its a universal soft reset

>>386509375
the IVs are probably the easiest in the series

>>386480389
Glad to know they add back basic fusion. I can manage with Fusion Search through IV and it's great how precise you can make the results, but I still like the simple A+B Fusion setup.

>>386509693
I and II can be cheese pretty easily with status ailments. Hardest is probably SJ with the final bosses gauntlet and bullshit dungeons

>>386478569
vs. King Abaddon lost me at "yer"

I'm all for emulated accents but I can't wrap my head around what the hell "yer" is supposed to be if not an overly hammed up terse "your"

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>>386468680
BEHOLD MY DEMONS

>>386509693
>>386509857
Alright, thanks.

Any idea if DDS/Nocturne can be emulated with easily?

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>>386510242
Well what do you think?

>>386510335
very

shadows are fucked but that's it

>>386510407
ah fink "yer" coulda been replaced wif "ya" an been lot better off for it

cept now I play "yer" in my head next ta "your" an the difference comes clearer 'n crystal

maybe I was just really tired when I got to that part and didn't know what the hell I was gettin at

I am not a clever man, "yer" functions without being terse, I am indeed not an intelligent man either for that matter and now feel quite dumb

this always happens right AFTER I tell someone about somethin I found peculiar, shit

>>386509375
Haven't played 2 yet, but 1 is easy, too easy for that matter, but the encounter rate is unbearable. I'd say you should play it, but be on the lookout for a Demon with Estoma and when you find one, don't let it go.

>>386510335
>>386510471
That can fuck you pretty hard on a particular boss battle though.

I'm trying to play through SMT 1 and its a bit rough, should i finish it? The combat isnt very interesting, and nothing is remotely explained to me, I like the first person dungeon crawling, but the story isn't that gripping and the characters are bland. the map being behind like 4 menus is annoying as fuck too. I love the music and finally hearing the references IV made to it.
SMT 1 Arcade: https://youtu.be/YS7ipOD6HbE
SMT 4 Arcade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gu6mz3Hp7k

Knowing this, should i play 2, or will my issues from 1 resurface in 2? I really liked Aleph's design, and im interested to see more of what IV:A drew from thematically

>>386510783
There's a mod that lets you just press the back buttons to pull up the map. I already said this here >>386510741 but if you can get a Demon with Estoma then it can make the whole a game a much more enjoyable time, and there is plenty of cool things in SMT1 to see.

>>386510776
Not like that, he works fine

specifically Demifiend/Serph's shadow in the world/cutscenes, it's layered weirdly so it's over their legs and shit

>>386510776
Which one? I can't remember the shadows mattering in Nocturne, but i haven't played it in years.

>>386511021
Ongryo-ki, presumably. Though I, somehow, just beat him with brute force when I played Nocturne without ever figuring out his gimmick. I know what his gimmick is now though, of course.

>>386511021
Ongyo-ki

>>386511003
Thats a handy mod to have. I'll keep that and the Estoma thing in mind. I want to like it, but im having trouble getting there. Might just have to play more.

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>>386511021
Reminder every boss in that section is optional.

>>386511010
Didn't know, never have emulated nocturne. That boss was hell for me before I found out the gimmick.
>>386511021
Ongryo-ki. He'll make three clones of himself that if you hit will end your turn and all four can attack you. The gimmick is that in a full kagutsuchi his real one will have a shadow beneath him.

>>386505662
>buff
>no muscles

>>386498997
kek

>>386507971
very serious and a good way to know the forgotenn stuff about the asuras world or the sea o binah from the vedic culture and the god of abrahama and moses aka how the brain works

>>386510407
The lack of walter and Johnatan in smt apocalypse hurts so much, flynn was such a faggot on apocalypse

>>386506307
In the neutral route of the original 4, Nanashi technically exists, but he refuses to let Dagda resurrect him. 4 apocolypse is what happened if he agreed to let Dagda resurrect him.

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>>386479549

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How does it make you feel that this is canonically the strongest SMT character?

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>>386513462
I call it 'bold and brash'.

>Playing MT2
>Get to that tunnel before the city with the minigames
>Some weird chicken appears and is kicking my ass, decide to escape
>some faggot appears and tells me that I've proven to be a Messiah and gives me a shitty ring
>Discover that was actually supposed to be a boss, can't fight it now
Fugg

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*Toot*

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>>386513918

>>386513918
I was told this boss was hard
Why did you lie to me /v/

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>>386514130
Why weren't you playing on Apocalypse difficulty?

How come no one talks about chakra walk in IV. Free hit-all gun skills every battle made post-Naraku a cakewalk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrx1sZYgp7E

>>386513123
And because of that the Divine Powers arise from the others gods which is funny, because in a sidequest on IV Zeus wanted to take revenge for how YHVH seal him in the body of an old man.

In retrospective, maybe Atlus was planning Final while develop SMTIV.

what if yo get frozen just before you cum?

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>>386468680

Hoy

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>>386480552

Post more Jack Frost.

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>>386515350

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>>386515350
It's destiny