How do we stop this?

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>>386451720
>stupid normies dump money into cookie clicker type phone games
>these people will be the focus audience of the future

>The phone game industry makes more money than the console/PC game industry

Fixed
They are 2 different industries

The pc market have more devs catering to it than likely is sustainable. There is no shortage of games. I don't think that we need to fear being out of games in the near future because of the mobile market. You could argue that there are less AAA games or middle budget games but that is hardly because of mobile gaming.

>>386451720

you don't. you make it so good so all you'll have to buy is a 20$ phone and then you could play anything.

>>386452074
Nowadays even those mobile are being ported to PC like the new dragon quest card game.

>>386452064
>2 different industries
How is that different from the handheld consoles?

Why do you think loot boxes are so popular now? They're the closest thing that publishers/devs have come up with as an analogue to the 'Free to play except if you actually want to beat the game in less than three years, pay $2 a pop to keep going' that mobile games have.

>Want that weapon/skin/ability? Get a loot box!
>You can get one once every hour or two by just playing
>Or, hey, you could just buy some for $5/10/15/20/50/100 and get what you want!
>Probably
>Maybe
>Actually it's a pretty low chance but we don't have to tell you that.

Mobile games are more easily accessed and popular and have less resistance to this stupid shit, but mainstream vidya is trying to catch up to this white whale made of cash.

>>386451720
You don't fix this because it's unfixable so the best option is to support your favorite developers and hope that the mobile games spilt into their own industry because in order to "win" we would need to outspend stay at home soccer moms who have nothing better to do than piss away money on Bejeweled, or CandyCrush, or Angry Birds.

>>386451720
>>386451759
>consoles+pc games still more profitable than smartphones+tablets
literally clickbait

>>386451720
This is capitalism in action. The goal is to serve demand, not make good products.

Same thing happened to books, music, movies. All we can do is hope that development for videogames becomes so easy that making great games can be achieved by the smallest possible teams at the lowest possible costs.

>>386452962
>Same thing happened to
You are dumb, there has always been products made with varying degrees of passion, this will never change.

>>386451720
The free market will fix it :^)

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>>386451720
I spent roughly $200 on phone game microtransactions this month. Plan to spend $200 more.

>>386452962
The goal is actually to make a profit, that's why businesses don't attempt to satisfy a demand if they find there's a way to keep a captive audience.

>>386451720
unless you somehow manage to convice billions of normies to stop playing freemium mobile games, you literally can't.

>>386453113
on what game?

>>386452564
Smartphone & tablets should be together too then.
That's almost half.

>>386453249
>normies
Fuck off and kill yourself

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>>386453287
Hades' Star. Space RTS. No random bullshit, so I don't mind. They also don't push the microtransactions. I got no values 'cause I realize you can't fix six billion people.

This was bound to happen just like the anime industry started appealing to those isekai and haremfags more, it's your faults for not buying consoles and handhelds games more than mobage shit.

>>386453443
t. normie

I just don't understand what games they could be playing. Ever mobile game I have played has been shit

>>386453545
Yes let us never question the race to the bottom the markets have willed for us in their divine knowledge. Clearly it is we who are at fault.

>>386451720
Unless PC/Console games become unprofitable, you won't have a problem.
There is always going to be a premium game experience somewhere; home stereo equipment didn't fall out of favor even though MP3s and portable audio took the lion's share of the market.

Mobile phones get more powerful all the time. In terms of processing power and RAM, they are more stronger than the PS3 and 360. Mobile phones have high consumer turn over rates, too. People upgrade regularly. Games for phones are getting more complex all the time. It's nothing to worry about because they'll eventually get to the point where they'll be ported to pc and consoles.

>>386451720
>now

it has always been the case

We don't stop this.

All the shit developers who are only interested in profits will fuck off to mobile games while people with real passion will stay and make quality games for PC and console.

>>386452364
I like it so long as I have options to hack in my resources.

>>386453547
Go back to your shithole normalfag

>>386453113
>I spent roughly $200 on phone game microtransactions this month.
Disgusting

>>386453490
>>386453113
sincerely hope you kill yourself

I enjoy watching you autists suffer.

>>386451720
We don't, ideally they'll eventually start to make actually good games for your phone

>>386453836
No see >>386451759

>>386453757
There's nothing you can do, there's more of those degenerate than you and they have more money so the companies will appeal to them, the same goes for SJWs and liberals in the west. Unless you have a plan to kill all tose people shut up and take it.

Are there even any worthwhile games on smartphones that isn't a port?

And yet, consoles and PC have all the things you could consider GOAT material, while phones only have throwaway freemium stuff and ancient ports.

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>>386454000
>ideally they'll eventually start to make actually good games for your phone

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>>386453884
or else what, you disgusting normie faggot?

>>386453198
Best example being mobile gacha shit

>mfw streaming mobile games

>>386453932
>>386453946
Found the virgins.

>>386451720
stop playing with those; for normies it's pretty much like gambling, only affecting fremium; real games can be firewalled from this

>>386454000
Most phone games makes money from gacha, ad (video ad in order to play more of the games etc). It's basically cash grab shit.

>>386451720
yes I'm sure this is accurate!

/sarcasm

>>386451720
Let money chasing producers move to mobile gaming so PC/Consoles can go back to getting games that are actually good.

>>386454035
I was joking but this American mentality of assigning divine providence to the decisions of shareholders really is a soul sickness you people need to deal with.

>>386451720
>Phoneposters
>Are dumb
>And spend money on things that they can get better-
>And for free
>News

MORE AT 11

Seriously chinkmoot, what's the fucking point of a meta thread if you're not going to listen to us?

>>386452962
>becomes so easy that making great games can be achieved by the smallest possible teams at the lowest possible costs
That was the ps1 and ps2 era.
Since them the demand for graphix made development harder and more expensive. We are past the peak of thr medium. All downhill from here.

>>386454226
And then they buy your "good" studious and turn them into freemium sweatshops or choke out the resources the market uses to make games and the "good" studios are left with nothing to actually make games with.

>>386451720
how I wish they would release Infinity Blade on Android FUCK.

>>386451720
I honestly wouldn't doubt. I myself have spent more in mobage than pc/console combined these years, to prove how stale and shit most games that are being released recently.

>>386453757
the customer is always wrong.

>>386454190
>Throwing your money into a black hole makes you a virgin

At first I thought your virginpost was strange and unrelated, then I equated the spending of money on phonegames to spending money on women, and it makes sense.

You don't pay for it in the jungle, anon.

>>386454040
no

>>386452962
This is already true because of engines today are so much better to just get up and make a game without the time lost coding ultra basic shit.

>>386454215
Yep, only "we" would care about these graphs, it's seems like disinformation (remember, stop bullying women, they are half of the gamers®© !); surrendering to fremium is the death of good games.

>>386454457
Kill yourself.

>games meant to exploit people who can't control their spending make more money than games that don't

shocking

>>386454447
If you've ever worked in advertisement you would know customers can be deceived, mislead and outright lied to.

>>386454802
and if you'd ever worked in retail you would know that customers have no idea what they want and they need to be told what to do by someone more intelligent than them.

>>386451720
why would we ? maybe we can finally get some decent mobile games
like Out there
age of zombie
collossatron
some pretty nice shoothemup like sky force
kingdom rush

>>386454040
Clash of Clans

>>386454040
>>386454919

>>386451720
90 % of that smartphone money comes from pay 2 win schemes, buy diamonds to get more forge points to research all techs instantly! Only 9.999.99 $.

>>386454890
Where does retail leave us as Amazon and electronic market places become the norm?

Meh

Capcom wants to strength their console business, the same goes for SEGA and SE

Even Konami is still releasing console games

I see mobile gaming like a complement rather than a replacement

>>386455232
What's your point?

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We don't.

It's over.

>>386452360
you cant make a call with the switch tablet

>>386455354
It's like selling drugs, you give the sucker his first few doses for free, then you charge him $$$.

In this case you give it for free to 100.000 people, many buy an extra thing or two and a few suckers get addicted and will dump 10.000 $ into a flash game.

>>386452029
Guess how paid mods will be justified soon.

Microtransactions were a mistake.

>>386452029
Just loot crate my shit up senpai

>>386454040
yes. if you look hard enough there are some good ones

>dungeon warfare
>the kingdom rush games
>clash royale even though it's freemium it's still a genuinely well made game
>pixel dungeon
>legion war

>>386451720
When I was young normie bux didn't buy video games. I don't care if normie bux leave video games again. Maybe the women and nu-males will leave with them.

>>386451720
Good. Hopefully it'll mean companies like EA or Ubisoft will fuck off and we'll start getting actual decent games again.

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>>386451720
you don't. just let them saturate the market until it's not that profitable anymore

>>386451720
This is a good thing, eventually there will be only a few games released a year, and then we can finally go outside and be free of windows and lead productive lives.

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Smartphone is still a thing in 2017?

mobile games aren't video games

>>386455986
This. Honestly, most developers are starting to realize that their core audience hasn't really changed in the past 20 years. The same demographic that used to buy PC games is still the core audience. Average gamers buy 1 or 2 games a year, and tend to favor casual experiences. Basically, you're going to see a fracturing of the market over the next few years with PC gaming returning to its roots. SJW themes alienate the core audience and tend to be less profitable.

>>386456384
Are you retarded? Nvm You are...

>>386456448
Wrong.

>>386456448
But money is money

Who cares? Mobile games are fun

>>386456632
there is no evidence that the income these companies get is more than what the pc/console game industry makes

its literally just 3 or 4 games from the same amount of companies that make up for 90% of that fake phone game revenue anyway

>2017
>Each Smartphone has the hardware possible to go beyond the PS2 in terms of visuals, hell perhaps the newest ones are as good as the 360/PS3 hardware wise
>There isn't a single Mobile game that can compare to a classic console/PC game from any era

Shouldn't there be something, you know a great RPG of some kind to play on Mobile. Because it's all shit, you're truly best off just downloading an emulator and playing old games off it.

I remember back in 2011 and 2012, people on /v/ were panicking about mobile games taking over the entire video game industry. It didn't happen back then, and I don't think it'll happen now.

>>386452962
Yea because under your fucking communism it would be much better.
There wouldn't be actually any fucking games because people would be starving to death.

>>386456783
That cost overhead to make. Now buy a crystal pack slave.

>>386456783
Mobile has an exclusive Final Fantasy and Breath of Fire :^)

>>386456776
You have no idea on how profitable mobile games are and low cost they are to make, do you ?

>>386451720
you can't, the people have spoken.

>>386452962
>All we can do is hope that development for videogames becomes so easy that making great games can be achieved by the smallest possible teams at the lowest possible costs.

This is already happening now. The problem is that the games aren't very good and whenever they are "good" it is a forced narrative that the game is good. It is called the indies. They have made a ton of shit with very little of it actually being good. Unless you were thinking of AAA games with impressive graphics and such. If that is the case then people need to start seeing the value in less technically impressive games. That doesn't mean complete ass like what the indies often come up with.

>>386457001
>Breath of Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfnlXEC8tpM

I take it someone used a Monkey Paw to revive Breath of Fire.

>>386457026
provide some facts to support your claims or OP's fantastical phone games revenue threads that have been happening since 2010 but still havent come true

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This is actually amonkey paw wish that came true

>Fucking AAA, i'll stop buying their shit so maybe they will understand people looks for quality
>AAA industry: well, pc and consoles are not producing as much profit as we believe it could make, let's switch into addicting candy crush clones

>>386457614
https://venturebeat.com/2017/04/13/worldwide-mobile-game-revenue-grew-53-to-11-9-billion-in-q1/
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4084197-kings-mobile-games-still-multibillion-dollar-gold-mine-activision
And here is a fun site where you can check the revenues by game, have fun
https://thinkgaming.com/app-sales-data/

Mobile is going strong but tablet are dying.

>>386451720
Yeah but they'll never have dedicated costumers, the ones that buy the merch or $40 dlc

>>386453113
this is the third time i've seen you post about that you faggot

Isn't all the profit from mobile games from like 1% of the playerbase or something like that?

>>386458212
More like around 10% of the players that contribute for 50% of the reveune

>>386454890
Democracy was a mistake.

>>386451720
You act like console and PC games haven't went to shit either. This has been long in the making to. Just because you might have been too underage to notice it in the past 10 or so years doesn't mean gaming wasn't going to shit for a long time. The seventh generation of consoles has ruined everything. As well as easier to access internet for everyone.

You can't

>>386452360
Handhelds are purpose made for video games.
The difference with PCs is that PCs are flexible and powerful enough that it doesn't matter that they're not purpose made (even though most of us have gaming hardware).

>>386457951
all you've posted just proves that the smartphone game market is tiny if you actually want to make money and that the charts showing the smartphone game app "industry" revenue is false

>>386453360
>42% is more than 54%
hurr durr

>>386451720
Stricter Gacha rules and people to recognize that YES, it IS gambling.

>>386458662
Ok you know what, just go fuck yourself, what exactly do you want, fucking receipts from people spending money on that shit, a phonecall from the people in charge of the money transactions
>It's not true untill i say so
yeah fuck you

>>386451759
Why does nobody actually look this?

Everyone just shitposts and falls for the stupid clickbait title like that blind goys you are.
/v/ is so easily manipulated.

>>386451720
>How do we stop this?
Why would you want to stop it anon? The more money publishers and developers make from mobile shit the better for us.
We need to kick the normalfags out of our hobby for it to thrive once again, a new age of AA games can begin just like in the 5th and 6th times

They're practically separate markets though.

>>386453857
No, going by Shadow of War and "hero"-shooters, they'll simply bring the mobileshit to the consoles.