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Zelda is FINISHED

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Isn't that the fucking Xbone X release date?

Anyway that's cool for me, nothing in November really interests me so I'll pick it up
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>sony still trying to pretend anyone gives a shit about this garbage game with its huge budget and false advertising of robot dinosaurs when the majority of the game has nothing to do with robot dinosaurs
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>>386447918
Is this the designated shitposting thread?
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@386448339

Not even worthy of a (You)
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>>386447918
Nobody here cares about either of those games.
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>>386447918
Wow, I can't wait for even MORE shilling.
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>Zelda
>launches with 3 seperate snow areas
>a huge winding summit with a lion centaur and giant troll guarding the path to a fight with a cursed dragon
>Plateaued range of snowy terraces that harbors a clan of deadly assassins as well as hidden landmarks tied to a hilarious sidequest chain where you crossdress and scam a hopeless sperglord
>intense mountain range with a hooked peak you can see from across the map, a frozen plain teeming with monsters on the path to a towering labyrinth housing ancient tribal armor, a collapsing ice sheet where you duel lizardmen, and multiple fun activities for relaxation to contrast the difficulty of discovering all the ruins hidden behind impenetrable stone doors or cave entrances obscured by the harsh snow, not to mention the family of ice golems and the giant skeletal beast
>Horizon
>Has... no snowy areas
>Pay 40 bucks for just one
ladies and gents I give you Zelda:BotW and Horizon:BTFO
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>>386448803
>>Has... no snowy areas
>>Pay 40 bucks for just one
Neither of these are true
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Is this DLC or expansion?
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>>386447918
You know what? HZD looked like something I would like, but seeing how hard the SJW shit related to the game was pushed by the people on the industry made me want to vomit
Also, the fact that the ugly as fuck anthony burch's sister is in the game was another reason to never play this crap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bozvLUp0f1o
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>>386448803
>Zelda hard mode is dlc
>Horizon extra hard is patched in

Kek
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>>386449110
DLC, you need the full game
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>>386448803
This expansion is $15 and the base game has snowy areas you retard

It also has forests and deserts.
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>>386449690
Haven't seen an xbox wojack in ages
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>>386448339
>when the majority of the game has nothing to do with robot dinosaurs
that's not true at all, in any sense
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>>386447918
>launches same day as Zelda
>launches same day as XBoneX
L O L
O
L
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>>386449864
Please be kind to them. They're an endangered species.
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>>386450135
what's wrong with this?
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>>386449116

There is no SJW shit. Play the game. It's great.
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>Still wont be on Zelda's level. lel
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>>386450936
That might be true, but the fact that its SJW angle was pushed by every shit gaming site and "wuman" type of people made me want to stay away from it
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>>386450936
Already played Zelda. No need for inferior SJW versions.
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IT WAS HER TURN, NINTENDRUMPFS
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>>386450135
>Same day as Zelda
BOTW DOC 2 doesn't have a release date other than 'holiday 2017' right now.
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>>386447918
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>>386451401
DLC*
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>>386447918
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>>386447918
why the fuck are horizon fags so obsessed with zelda?
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>>386448187
it does seem a little bit deliberate. i'm guessing anyone who'd buy the dlc probably wouldn't have bought an xbox to begin with but i'm guessing it'll probably be harder to steal sales away from a major console release with dlc
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>>386451193
pretty sure it's up at 60 now

(no, not aloy games, obviously)
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>>386451495
they tried REAL hard to say that hzd would beat zelda with obviously hilarious results.
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>>386451495
why are zelda fags so obsessed with making falseflag threads?
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>>386451608
Sure thing sweetie.
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>>386451130
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>>386447918
>stealing the White March aesthetic while (failing to) copy Zelda

jesus sony get your shit together
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>>386451495
Self-esteem issues.
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>>386451642
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>>386451130
even the ground textures are better in botw
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>>386451495
Because Zelda is the better game.
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>>386451642
Fuck, wrong pic. Why did I even save that.
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>>386448803
>>Horizon
>>Has... no snowy areas
Dont you just love nintenbros
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reminder that this game is shit and pure marketing
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5 months later /v/ is still mad huh?
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>>386451943
>reminder that this game is shit and pure marketing
Botw in a nutshell.
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My 8 yr old xir cant wait to play as aloy again on their xbone while wearing nonbinary clothing
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>>386452183
cant both be shit marketing games that gave big bucks to fake journalists? no need to choose just one.
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You're saying that this piece of feminist turd still didn't beat Zelda?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Not a surprise, honestly.
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>>386452087
Yeah just look at the OP
literally can't talk about Horizon without mentioning Zelda, even after 5 months.
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>>386451943
>>386451809

Hzd is supposed to be easier on purpose so my precious little xir doesnt get frustrated with their politicstation
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>>386451943
>>386452087
>>386451809
>those Youtube comparison videos
>watched them before buying either
>Horizon
>see shitty physics and mechanics
>bows are literally just sniper rifles that shoot arrows
>character animations range from uncanny valley to horribly bad
>pick up BotW the next day, no remorse
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>>386452183
>>386452330
>I haven't played BotW. I base my views on what /v/ told me.
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>>386452536
The physics and world interactions in BotW are fucking amazing. The game rewards those who just mess around and try shit out to see if it works.
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>>386452893
Exactly the point I was making, it feels more like an open world game thanks to that too. There's so many oddball things you can do that you could spend hundreds of hours just fucking around.
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>>386450936
>No SJW shit
>Main character literally gets asked about if they ever have a child, and implies that they would only accept a female
>Text logs about how the evul right wing hates refugees
>Past world was SJW utopia where muslim women were the heads of society and scientific research and men were butt blasted second class citizens that literally ruined everything and caused the apocalypse by corrupting the pure and perfect muslim AI

The game was written by and for SJWs, there is zero denying this.
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>>386453032
I thought I had a good handle on the mechanics, but then I watched some speedruns and realized that I had yet to scratch the surface.

>stasis a tree
>whack the shit out of it
>jump on board
>fly through the air
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>>386453041
>Main character literally gets asked about if they ever have a child, and implies that they would only accept a female
When the fuck did this happen?
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>>386452330
I doubt they even needed to pay, the second they slapped "open world" and "legend of zelda" on the box reviewers were dropping 10/10s on it before they even opened the box.
Sony needed to pay.
>>386452720
>I have played BOTW but I'm not allowed to have my own opinions on it because it might be considered slander against nintendo in court
Good for you, sheep.
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>>386453136
And attaching floats to shit and riding them across the map, sending bombs out like rockets, etc.

I even think someone did a video on a hundred different ways you could die in the game, most being self inflicted via goofy shit you could do in the game.
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>>386447918
Can I pilot giant robot yet?
If not, whatever.
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>>386451650
>(failing to) copy Zelda

What?
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>>386453280
It's some monologue at the very end of the game. Some audio log of an interview with the scientist that created the original AI or some shit, and it's voiced by Burch, just like Aloy, implying it's her consciousness inside Aloy or something stupid like that.
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>>386451803
You forgot the * *
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>>386447918
Is that DLC or a new game?
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>>386452536
Bows aren't sniper rifles in horizon. If you shoot the arrow too early or too late the arrow can't manage to travel fast enough. It is true that they travel fast, but if the target is far away enough you will definetly not hit the target if you think its sniper type speed.
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>>386450936
Nigga wut, I've been playing this game for some hours now and I've yet to find a decent male npc that isnt an asshole. Almost every single charachter with an important role were girls with only 3 exceptions. The substitute village leader, that is an asshole and the only boy that had some chances of winning that test at the start along with you and another girl, that was also an asshole
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>>386456167
Rost, Erend, Varl and based fucking Nil
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>>386447918
Looks like it says "Frozent".
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>>386449690
Do Xbots even still exist? Asian Moot couldn't even be bothered to filter words for you nobodies.
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>>386447918
OP stop being a faggot.
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>>386447918
ok
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>>386447918
>horizon released complete and finished game
>creates EXPANSION because it did so well
>botw announced with at least 2 DLC
>botw released with 3 DLC
>had to wait months before getting content you paid for
>Instead of releasing actual content you paid $15 for a hard mode that shouldn't even exist

Zelda was fucking garbage and Nintendo got on the shit show dlc train to scam it's loyal customers. They did it in the worst way possible too. So, to all you Nintendo fags. Horizon is how games should be, and if they do well expansion packs should be created later. Not bullshit dlc thats used to promote the game and should be in the game already.
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both games are shit and you should feel bad for liking either of them, now fuck off
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>>386450751
Source ?
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>>386449320
>implying you can purchase and play blood moon without owning Morrowind

Are you fucking retarded? It's an expansion. Of course you need the base game you fucking idiot. What company is going to create additional content for a game that you can play without requiring you to own the base game? That's just bad business practice. I mean are you really this fucking retarded or are you just mad that the game that beat Zelda is getting a full blown expansion while your sitting with dlc?

>dlc, requires you to own the base game

No fucking shit retard. Expansions do too.
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>>386458524
In what way did my post imply I was a Sonybro? I know you're false flagging, but this is beyond retarded. I game on PC only.
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>>386459894
Post your PC
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>>386448339
In fact, one could even say there were 0% robot dinosaurs in the game.
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>>386447918
Imagine liking only one game
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>>386447918
>story is literally "muslim fights the big evil white scientist who oppresses everybody"
>every single person is a racially mixed diverse mess
>the hero comes from a PROUD FEMINIST MATRIARCHY
>robot dinosaurs are just a bait n switch for SJW politics and muslims
Zelda is finished, guys.
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>>386459894
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/90%2B%20on%20metatric/

Post your PC
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>>386460094
Zelda literally features a town where you dress like a trap and infiltrate a matriarchal society.

But go ahead, pretend as if Horizon of all things is SJW. I'll wait.
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>>386451943
Wow. What can you actually do in this game? You can literally interact with everything in BotW. This looks... tragic.
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>>386460280
Zelda makes fun of trannies, it's literally the most redpilled AAA game in existence.
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>>386460412
You can submit to your muslim and feminist heroes and take down the evil white scientist.
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Why does Horizon trigger /v/ so much?
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>>386460510
/ourgame/?
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>>386460615
It's one of those games that most of the shitposts are actually sony cucks who are so disappointed with their hyped up piece of shit, they make daily threads to vent their anger. Nintenbros are too busy defending BotW from the hourly onslaught of shitposts to get involved.
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That's it. I'm fucking done with this forum. Zelda is probably the best game I've ever played in my life and all it does is get shit on. Why? Why? I'm 50 hours in and I'm probably not even 1/50th of the way through. That's a total of 50x50hours of gameplay = 2500 hours until I complete the game and that's without even collecting seeds. Fuck you man. I'm sick to death of people on here.
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>>386458932
>Horizon is how games should be

HOLY SHIT THIS IS WHAT SONYGROS ACTUALLY, LITERALLY BELIEVE!

WHAT A PATHETIC BUNCH OF PEOPLE!
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>>386462691
Wow nice one anon that guy sure looks stupid now
Maybe instead of posting memes you should, you know, discuss the topic
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>>386451130
Not comparable.

One is a cartoon style.
The other tries a more realistic style.

But console war kiddies will continue doing their thing.
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>>386462037
The Nintendo hate circlejerk is very strong here.
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>>386462037
I hope you're being ironic. I honestly don't. know why people on /v/ feel inclined to defend video games or video game companies from obvious shitposters. It's truly an enigma I won't ever understand.
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>>386462797
>tries
Tries and fails. Zelda succeeded in whatever artistic vision its creators had for it.
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>>386460740
this is probably the best bait post ive read so far today.
10/10
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>>386462791
>discuss

We all now HZD is shit. There's nothing to discuss.
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Breath of the wild really did not have very satisfying content, whole world was kinda bland, lack of enemies, a billion korok seeds and shrines.

Vanilla World of Warcraft was a better open world game than Zelda botw.
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>>386459835
shhh he's probably a millenial, i bet he thinks updates are called "free DLC"
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I would play this if i didnt have to play as a girl
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>>386460280
lol that's the most cherry picked example I've ever seen. The crossdressing is seen as a joke in the game, only the most delusional of trannies would think this was supposed to be support for LGBT shit and not just a joke at their expense.

The Gerudo have been an established race in Zelda for 20 years, and they were always female only. They aren't a matriarchy, because that would imply there are men to be subjugated. In reality they are entirely female, and once again the joke here is that they are all hungry for cock so they literally have a school where they teach their women how to pick up Hylian men in order to reproduce. At absolutely no point in the game is there ever any political statement being made.

Meanwhile Horizon is literally a story about a muslim female scientist creating a utopia where white men are second class citizens, before said white men ruin the society and kill of the entire human race.
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>people are still arguing about Horizon VS Zelda and not enjoying both

What's it like to be too poor to buy 2 consoles or too stupid to emulate Zelda?
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>>386447918
>If the thread title was "Are you excited /v/?" the thread would be dead by now
good bait OP
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>>386463761
>enjoying both
Horizon's shit though. ;-)
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>>386463761

But I'm neither. I played both and was simply disappointed with Zelda. A Majora's Mask style sequel where it just reused assets but fixes the problems could be GOAT but BotW felt barren and unfinished. A fun traversal mechanic doesn't make up for how lifeless it all felt.
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>>386448803
>Pay 40 bucks for just one

I can't wait for /v/ to eat shit once again when Uncharted drops.
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>>386463761
too stupid to emulate Zelda?

I still find it funny how the only Switch game got emulated in one day.
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>>386451608
False flag, sure, those threads shitting on Zelda's graphics by directly comparing it to Horizon were just false flags, it was actually Zelda fans shitting on their own game.
That's how this shit started and no fucking Horizon/Sony fanboy was complaining then, but the moment webms of Horizon started coming out with dog ugly characters, bad voice acting, shitty AI, shitty animations, bugs, stupid ass story, then Zelda and is met with great acclaim, all of a sudden "it was always false flaggers", "there is no reason to compare the two", "why are Zelda fanboys picking on Horizon", "Nintendo fans are the worst".

Fuck that shit, I made a post months ago, when Horizon fags did nothing but post the game just to shit on Zelda and for console war purposes, that the moment the games come out they were going to pretend that that shit never happened and were going to whine about being the victim of Nintendo bullies, to always bring up the Metacritic of the games, to never let them forget, to fucking teach them a lesson of how obnoxious they were being.
Maybe next time Sony faggots will just post a game they are "interested" in, which no one ever really gave a shit about Horizon it was just a graphics pissing contest, they'll remember to simply talk about the game instead of using it as a reason to shitpost all over the board.
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>>386462797
The graphics aren't what the webm is showing.
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>>386464532
>Sonybros
>Learning their lesson

No, their next big game will come out and they will be right back here talking about how all the competition is done for, and that whatever game Nintendo is working on in the same time frame will be doomed to the shadows of their masterpiece. The cycle will continue until Sony goes out of business.
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>>386463761
You can't enjoy a nu-game like Horizon.
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>>386460280
>Zelda literally features a town where you dress like a trap and infiltrate a matriarchal society

How is that SJW? Came across as something that would piss off SJWs because of how loose and comically it deals with trannyism.
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>>386464532
>outing yourself as a shitposter

Please fucking kill yourself.
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>>386453305
I actually played both BotW and HZD, since I have both a Wii U and a PS4 (also play on PC by the way) and am not any company shill. And, after playing BotW, I came to the conclusion, by myself, that this game is absolutely amazing.
It may not be the best game ever, and not even the best Zelda game, but it is easily the best big title released in the last decade. I am pretty sure most people shitting on it haven't even tried playing it for over an hour, if at all, and are mostly hating on it for contrarianism sake.
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>>386462797
Funnily enough Zelda succeeds in realism far more than Horizon does.
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I played BotW for 150 hours and completed that shit, thought it was awesome despite there needing to be more runes and dungeons.

Played Horizon for 2 hours and turned that shit off quick. Runs at a cinematic 20 frames per second and has a shitty, floaty engine with slow, long animation gameplay. One of the least responsive games I've played.
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>>386463249
Millenials are in their thirties now. You are confusing them with Gen Z.
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>>386464935
I don't shitpost, I said I encourage others to do it when it comes to this game, Horizon was never talked about properly, it was just a device to shitpost against other games.
Sony fanboys are the ones that poisoned the well when it came to being able to talk about Horizon as it's own game, don't fucking blame me for simply reminding everyone.
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I didn't really like horizon but the villain in the past was great, dude gets so embarrassed he fucked up that he fucks up the future too, wish the main villains had half what he did.
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>>386465118

This image >>386463575 never fails to ring true
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>>386466462
A crying wojak refutes someones honest opinion?
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>>386466970

Yes. Because every time someone criticizes BotW the post begins or ends with YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED IT. As if someone couldn't possibly come to a different conclusion as them. Because die-hard Nintendo fans are the type of people who send death threats and attempt to dox people for having differing opinions because their egos are fragile to the point of instability if something they like might not be perfect.
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>>386448803
>has no snowy areas
nigga the game starts in snowy areas.
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>>386467140
But said anon is an idort so I doubt he's a nintendo fanboy.
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>>386463575

tfw you made this image and regret it
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>>386467140
"die-hard Nintendo fans" wouldn't also play on PS4. Maybe many people simply think the game is really good and that most opposers' reasoning is very weak and biased?
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>>386467520
>>386467293

If they really thought that they'd be able to actually argue the criticisms rather than immediately dismiss it as "you haven't played the game!" every single time.

And I don't know where this idea that Nintendo/Zelda fanboys can't play other things came from. I have a friend who plays a variety of things but when it comes to Nintendo they can literally do no wrong in his eyes. Doesn't stop him from playing on other consoles or PC, he just grew up with Nintendo and blindly rides them forever.
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>>386447918
>Highly anticipated game gets a release date for its DLC
>First thing Sony fans do is shitpost on /v/ about Zelda

GOTY's livin' in your head rent free guys
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Zelda is better.
But Horizon is a great game.

Why can't Sonyfags and Ninty's be friends?
I mean, PS4 + Switch will objectively be the best combo this gen.
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Oh lovely, another round of horizon-kun.
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>>386467747
This thread exists just to false flag. OP is a dirty cocksucker itching to start flame wars.
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>>386467769
ur in the wrong thred anon
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>>386450936
>>386449116
If anything theres anti SJW shit in it.

>Aloy is shunned by her tribe because she's different
>When a new member of the tribe is introduced, Aloy immediately reverts to a bitchy state
>Her tribe are blind in their faith, shooting down all that refuse to believe in their God

If anything, HZD stands as a reminder that women are bitchy, catty, helpless, and lazy in their pursuit of knowledge. I wondered if it was a subtle troll from the developer.
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>>386467769
Because reasons. Both have been successful this gen in some way, but they have to fight because they're poor.
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>>386467769
>Why can't Sonyfags and Ninty's be friends?
Sonyfags don't mix with anyone. They're like oil while Nintendo, PC and Xfags are water.
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>>386467743
>"you haven't played the game!"

Well...have you?
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>>386463575
Yeah, because HZD has so much "content". Go back to sucking at the teat of tumblr diversity.
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>>386468124
PCbros have no games so they spend all their time falsefagging as Ninty and Sony fags.

If it wasn't for PCbros /v/ would be a decent board.

/PCG/ now!
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HZD and BotW both set out to do different things, so they're not really comparable. Only issue is that BotW in scope and structure is way more interesting than HZD is, even with its barebones story, boring Shrine puzzles and shit dungeons. I truly think everybody has a unique experience that only they have seen while playing BotW
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>>386468161

I've already posted my thoughts on the game. But even if I hadn't your post is reductive and pointless and has just as much validity as immediately dismissing anyone who likes the game as a Nintendo toddler with no taste. Both make snap judgments to avoid having a real dialogue.
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>>386467743
They are implying that you all haven't actually played it as much as you imply they don't see fault with the games or love everything Nintendo does. I don't think botw is without faults. I can find multiple with it. I am not convinced to buy a Switch yet. I didn't like skyward sword very much, even though critics praised it so much.

And yet, saying that botw faults outweighs its many strenghts, or that it isn't a very good game after having actually played it sound more like fanatism to me than anything. Because the game is simply that good.
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>>386451943
>horizon zero cactus

At least the main character is a beaut-
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>>386460280
>infiltrate a matriarchal society
A society that makes any male born to their tribe their ruler isn't what I'd call matriarchal.
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>>386468448
>I've already posted my thoughts on the game

Okay where?
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>Nintendo, PC and Xfags are water.

Every time I see someone think PC and Nintendo are friends I can't help but giggle to myself. PC doesn't give a fuck about Nintendies. All emulation fags do is steal your games, then gloat about it in the catalog. Remember all those BoTW threads rubbing shit on drones for emulating the game on day one? PCfats a notorious shitposters that never get called out, so why Nintendobros continue to defend them is beyond me.
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>>386468448
You know, that anon posed a very simple question and you failed to answer.
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>>386460460
>>386463565
>>386464891
>>386468669
If Horizon had the same mission you'd be complaining about SJW and so on

And how is BOTW not very progresive?
Besides that mission, you have a fucking pedophile quest and a main character that looks like a female
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>>386468124
>He thinks PCObese are his friends
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>>386447918
You are on Nintendogaf, OP. It doesn't matter how many better games come out, they won't be convinced that BOTW isn't the greatest game since OoT. I mean, come on. It has Zelda in the name.
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>>386469163
>>386468979
You two do realise that post didn't imply that PC and Nintendofags were friends but that Sonyfags hate everything that isn't Sony, right?
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>Zelda.
>Finished.
Not in this lifetime.
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>>386468669
>And yet, saying that botw faults outweighs its many strenghts, or that it isn't a very good game after having actually played it sound more like fanatism to me than anything.

Or simply difference of opinion. Outside of its traversal mechanics, which are very satisfying, it does nothing better or new than any other open world game. A genre which has already exhausted any and all fun it ever had years ago. A scaled down sandbox on the level of Ground Zeroes would have been exponentially better than a dead world with no dungeons and very little to actually find and discover. Less enemy variety than Ocarina of Time. Not a single real dungeon. Barren and lifeless towns. MMO level fetch quests padding out the "side-quests." The only thing you ever find in the world between long expanses of nothingness are Shrines and Korok Seeds.

They sacrificed way too much of the Zelda formula to try and force open world, much like Metal Gear Solid did with the Phantom Pain and returns back to my Ground Zeroes comparison. There was nothing in The Phantom Pain on the level of detail and creativity as the one compound of Ground Zeroes. Because nearly every open world game is as wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle. Rockstar and Bethesda have been the only ones to consistently deliver an open world that deserves its moniker and even then both companies have slipped in recent years from the heights they used to be at.
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>>386469298
Not true they have no reason
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>>386469103
You replied to one wrong post from all of these. I mean nothing by it, by the way. Just letting you know.
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>>386469429
You have been on /v/ in the last 5 years or so haven't you?
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>>386469532
Sonyfags gloat about winning, they don't go around hating, because you know, they won
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>>386469652
>they don't go around hating
That's literally all they do anon.
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>>386456167

In the beginning area, yes the male characters are usually assholes, but as soon as you get into the larger part of the world, all the male characters are based as fuck and they shit on your tribe for being crazy, which is true.

Anyone who says this game is SJW shit didn't get to the next area.
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>>386469298
>but that Sonyfags hate everything that isn't Sony, right?

But that's where you're wrong friend. The whole of /v/ hates everybody and everything. Why you choose to just cherry pick Sonyfags alone is just stupid. Turn your attention to any Metroid thread and watch Nintendo friends eat one another, of Cemu and RPCS3 threads.

Sony isn't just the problem, but a fraction of a whole that is the shit stain called /v/
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>>386469770
>Turn your attention to any Metroid thread and watch Nintendo friends eat one another,
Not him but that's not a very good example seeing as it's just one lone shitposter.
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>>386469715
Not an argument
I've seen a ton of gifs that point out how BOTW is better than horizon but none for the opposite
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>>386469908
One shitposter? Are you serious? What, did the ACfag get so deep in your head that you believe everyone unanimously agree that Samus Returns looks like a good game?
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>>386470110
>I've seen a ton of gifs that point out how BOTW is better than horizon but none for the opposite
And why do you think that is exactly?
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>>386470219
Because this place is nintendogaf
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>>386470365
Uh, no.
Try again.
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>>386468448
But have you played it, anon?
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>>386464283
As in /v/ being btfo when it tops charts?
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>>386453041
>>386454095
>got his facts from /v/
You didn't even play the gamd

The Muslim woman wasn't a leading scientist who invented no AI kek. She just archived data and was basically a librarian
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>>386470697
>>386468161
>>386468990

The question itself is a catch 22. The only answer is to not answer. If you explain that you've played it you're validating the continued usage of it as a way to dismiss people. If you haven't played it then you add more fuel to the fire (though, if you haven't played it you rightfully shouldn't be sharing opinions about the game). The point is no other thread would attack detractors and bring up whether they played the game or not. Even other Nintendo games aren't met with that level of fanboyism. You don't see Splatoon critics being told that their criticism is fake and they've never played the game.

Even making this post is going to be met with shitposters telling me I must not have played the game if I have to go this far to avoid answering a question.
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When people argue HOZD and BOTW I start laughing in my chair because BOTW isn't even technically a game so how do you compare them?
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>>386463575
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>>386471238
>Even making this post is going to be met with shitposters telling me I must not have played the game if I have to go this far to avoid answering a question.
That is the natural response to someone dancing around a simple question. Pointing that out also isn't helping.
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>>386447918
>But it doesnt have gablooklglonlins

weird that aloy is more of a man than that faggot link
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>>386471669

Rewarding skeptic fanboys doesn't push the conversation forward in any meaningful way. Telling someone yes I played the game is then either met with "You must not have played it long enough/How long did you play?" Then whatever # you give is never nearly enough and you're met with "You probably just sped through it. You need to take your time and really enjoy it to get the most out of it."

And you'll never get to an actual discussion about the pros and cons of the game. It'll always just be your fault for being too retarded to enjoy the BEST GAME EVER MADE
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>>386472013
Why do you just continue to dig yourself a deeper hole?
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>>386471238
>(though, if you haven't played it you rightfully shouldn't be sharing opinions about the game
So then why can't you just answer a simple question?
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>>386472013
>Rewarding skeptic fanboys doesn't push the conversation forward in any meaningful way.
You say that but it would contribute more than your current posts are. Just look at how the conversation has shifted towards you than the game itself.
Had you answered we could actually talk about the game.
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>>386447918
>Zelda is FINISHED

Just to be sure, I went ahead and checked.

BotW sold 3.84 million units in the first month alone and is still selling like hotcakes.
HZD still hasn't beat that mark, despite being out longer.

BotW still holds 97 on Metacritic.
HZD is holding steady at 89.

Yeah, Zelda sure is finished.
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>Sonyfags call Nintendofags childish for playing "kiddie" games
>Sonyfags participate in console-wars unironically
>Nintendofags say PS4 has no games
>Switch only has 4 good games at the moment
>Xbots are fucking dead
>PCfags think that since no one directly opposes them,that somehow means that Valve has no problems
Moral of the story: /v/ is fucking dead
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>>386472301
>BotW sold 3.84 million units in the first month alone
Well that's up to June 30th and only the Switch units.
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Ha
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>>386472301
That's not impressive
Zelda is a cult game and it barely sold more than a brand new IP
BRAND NEW
So yea, pretty finished
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>>386472257

Yes I'm so sure just like the riveting discussions that came out of the legitimate criticisms already posted about both games ITT
>>386469335
>>386468440
>>386464181
>>386463232
>>386465348

/v/ doesn't actually want to talk about things
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>>386472301
lol, despite being the biggest video game franchise in the world, it still hasn't even outsold Uncharted 4. The absolute state of Nintendofags.
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>>386472887
A brand new IP with far more marketing on a console with 60m+ units out in the world.
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>>386472991
This
Also just want to say that uncharted 4 is one of the best games ever made IMO
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BROM
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>>386472301
Why people try comparing the two is beyond me. Horizon is a brand new IP that's sold around 3M copies since February. Zelda is a video game icon that's been around for decades. You have to be retarded to deny the success of HZD, regardless if you hate the game.
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>>386447918
Horizon is boring generic shit. I got mine from bundle and coouldn't even finish it because of how fucking bad it is. It's like some bastard child of Far Cry and Assassin's Creed. But it looks nice and it's an exclusive so people will hype it like it's the best PS4 game ever.
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>>386473083
No amount of marketing can compare to fucking zelda
Also nice job moving the goalpost
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>>386473358
>No amount of marketing can compare to fucking zelda
And no amount of denial can change the fact that Horizon should have outsold Zelda. It's also worth noting that anon only posted the Switch numbers.
The Wii U numbers add another million to that at least seeing as it was confirmed for crossing that boundary in April.
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>>386447918

I just want a costume with sandals or anything to show her petite feet.
You can only see her feet during the intro, when she is a child and that shit does nothing to me.

Give us more costumes. Costumes where she is has her feet showing please.
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>>386473346

You could honestly replace Horizon with BotW in this sentence and it still rings completely true. Why can't we all just bond over the fact that open world games are trash.
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>>386473580
Okay fanboy
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>>386473580
Not him, but did the whole Zelda IP go over your head? Also you wanna talk about install bases? Skyward Sword only sold 4M copies despite being on a console with a 100M install base.

>inb4 Skyward was a bad game and nobody wanted to play it
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>>386447918
Aha, but is the game good? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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>>386473358
>Horizon
>Only needs to sell 1 game for every 20 consoles that are on the market
>Shilled to high heaven
>Still falls short

>Zelda
>Sells on a brand new console, requiring a much larger investment for someone to own (remember we are exclusively measuring SWITCH game sales here, completely disregarding WiiU)
>still does significantly better

>both games now
>Zelda and Switches still selling like hotcakes, Nintendo literally can't keep up with demand for console and Zelda continues to sell millions of copies
>Horizon hasn't been relevant in several months and is only being discussed again because they've announced their overpriced DLC
>Will once again be irrelevant by tomorrow
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>>386473912
Sure
Explain this now>>386473847
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>>386463575
Never mind the story dlc this winter.
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>>386472991
source on the naked girl?
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>>386473827
>fanboy
Is that really how you respond to being corrected?
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>>386474203
I'm not wrong
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>/v/ will go into a collective screech if there is a single black person or woman in a game
>HOZD has a Katniss Everdeen clone female protagonist voiced by Ashly Burch in a post apocalyptic matriarchal society brought upon by an evil white man who stole from a female Muslim scientist
>/v/: I see nothing wrong here
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>>386473847
>>386474040

Your argument counters itself. If what you're saying about the Zelda IP is correct, Skyward Sword should have sold nearly 100M copies because it's Zelda, but it sold like shit. You've literally just provided a source to prove yourself wrong. Meanwhile Horizon sold on a system with 60M units and still under performed compared to a game on a BRAND NEW SYSTEM. Your 60 dollar game sold worse than my 360 dollar game, despite all the marketing you did for it.
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>>386473912
Still falls short

It sold 3M copies you mong. Do you honestly think this is a failure? Even the studio didn't expect it to sell so well. Horizon was a game with little expectations, but turned out a great profit.

But keep skating around the fact that Zelda is one of the biggest video game properties in the world, and the fan base are literal rabid animals for the series.
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>>386474242
Well you aren't exactly right you know.
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>>386473912
>>386474327
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>>386474327
Horizon is a BRAND NEW IP
Zelda is not
What's hard to get there?
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>>386468098
Is that really what you got from that game? All the women who help you in the game and that's really what you got from that?

It's neither an SJW or anti game. It's simply a game with characters.
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>>386447918
>ugly dykes and "open world" corridors reskinned to be ice: part 2 electric boogaloo

This is gonna be rich.
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>>386474328
>Do you honestly think this is a failure?
By AAA standards it is.
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>>386447918
Game is shit.
Pretty shit, yes, but still shit.
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>>386474430
Where in those posts is the goalpost being moved? My argument remains steady throughout them both.

>>386474445
Horizon is a brand new IP on a system with 60 million users to sell to, and barely managed 1/20th of that. Zelda is an existing franchise that can still sell poorly for it's install base (see >>386473847) yet managed to push nearly 4 million sales on a brand new console, which is a far more expensive endeavor.
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>Nintendo literally can't keep up with demand for console

Can't keep up with demand. Still outsells the Xbox One worldwide, yet gets BTFO by the PS4.
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>>386453041
>>Past world was SJW utopia where muslim women were the heads of society and scientific research and men were butt blasted second class citizens that literally ruined everything and caused the apocalypse by corrupting the pure and perfect muslim AI

You didn't play the game, did you?
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>>386474719
Horizon sold amazing tho
What the hell are you on about?
Are you acting like it undersold you delusional fuck?
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>>386474430
>muh goalpost moving instead of actually making a point or countering any points brought up

Man, since when did sonybros get so bad at the bantz?
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>>386474775
Not sure what you're trying to argue here. Nintendo can't produce as many Switches as Sony can PS4s, you literally can't compare sales rates because Nintendo is hitting a cap early every month. It's like comparing the speed of two racers where one racer is only allowed to run for 20 seconds of every minute, then has to stand still for the other 40.
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>>386474953
>muh shortage
every time
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Why do these threads devolve into arguing about HZD vs BotW? Is it because they came out around the same time? The two play so different from each other. Why even compare them?
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>>386447918

>Releasing it on the same day as the Xbox X

Are they fucking retarded?

They already fucked up by releasing the main game on the same week as Zelda

Now they are doing it directly on the Xbox One X?
Jesus fuck
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>>386475126
>muh factual information is irrelevant because Sony is better
every time
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I own both a Switch and a PS4, however I don't own HZD yet.
That being said, if what I've seen in this thread is true and it holds a candle to Zelda, it must be a fantastic game in its own rights.
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>>386475161

Console wars

We aren't allowed to like them both for their own styles

We HAVE to bitch about which is better and only 1
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>>386447918
why do young pre-teen fags seem to think that if one game sells well it hurts another? Do you think anyone out there was gonna buy zelda but since that shit exists now they choose not to? Or are your trying to say that a garbage dlc for a garbage game will be so good that the zelda franchise can never recover?
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>>386460094
You didn't play this game.
>>story is literally "muslim fights the big evil white scientist who oppresses everybody"
Story is ginger fights evil tribe to the west resurrecting giant death robots. Where did you even get that?

>>every single person is a racially mixed diverse mess
Oh no. People with different skin colors. How horrible.
>>the hero comes from a PROUD FEMINIST MATRIARCHY
The hero comes from a matriarchal society that is shown as imperfect. All the tribes are shown as good in some aspects, while horrid in another. And the Nora are the most shat on tribe.

>>robot dinosaurs are just a bait n switch for SJW politics and muslims
lolwut
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>>386475161
Basically when Horizon was revealed Neo-/v/ went on a tirade about it being the "Zelda killer", needless to say that kind of backfired on them and now they can't let it go which ultimately causes the destruction of any Horizon thread.
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>>386474805
Whether or not something undersold isn't tied to a static threshold, it doesn't need to sell a predetermined, set number of copies, it depends entirely on the game's budget. It likely undersold based on expectations but didn't flop financially.
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>>386475161
HZD's marketing campaign, especially here on /v/, was centered around the game being a Zelda killer. Any rational person knew this would never happen, but shills asserted it every day for months up to release anyway, and when it inevitably failed to kill or even outsell Zelda, they got butthurt and defensive.
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>>386474805
It sold like shit, shill.
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>>386463358
And now you know how it feels to not have characters like you as playable characters in games.
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>>386447918
Horizon is better than Zelda though
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>>386475249
It doesn't, it might look great but the gameplay does nothing new, its full of the same contextual animations and setpieces that replace actual gameplay we've seen in countless western open-world games.
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>>386475479
I fail to see how this is a big deal
t. shitskin
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>>386475249
i played both, horizon is shit. best thing about it is the graphics. story is forgettable, and so is the gameplay. It's basically your average 7/10 open world meme game
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>>386448187
It is deliberate. There were multiple PS4 game releases around the time the Switch was out in the wild.
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>>386475597
>It is deliberate.
You genuinely have to wonder what moron would go up against a system release.
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Has anybody ever actually seen someone say Horizon is better than BotW?
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>>386475792
Jim Sterling
And for like 3 months Sonybros pretended he was /ourguy/
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>>386475741
>he hasn't heard about arrogant sony
They're a riot.
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>>386475792
Unironically? No.
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Horizon is better than BotW

And i mean this unironically.
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>>386475741
Why do you think a DLC is aimed at "go up against a system release", stupid?
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>>386460280
Already before this SJW shitstorm Ocarina of Time had the Gerudo capture a team of carpenters to use as breeding pigs because that's what they do. They are the Zelda universe Amazoness tribe which has been an established fantasy race for decades without any bullshit SJW propaganda inserted. If anything the Gerudo are more likely the result of a male power fantasy, which is fetishized domination.

But you could also toss your Gender/Race Discrimination Politics Detection Gear out the window and simply enjoy the fucking game because there is no political agenda to be found if you aren't creating one out of harmless material. Both sides are starting to make shit up as they go whenever it's convenient for them and are dragging down everything innocent with them into some political dregheap because everything has to be fucking politics.

Fuck off.
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>>386474805
Don't you get it? If you don't like a game, it sold like shit.
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>tfw we'll get another 3 month (1.5 pre and 1.5 post) stint of non-stop Horizon shilling

Great. Fantastic.

I miss the old Sony, they marketed shit decently but had substance to their vidya. Now it's just maximum overmarketing for weak vidya that wouldn't survive on it's own.
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>>386460280
The entire premise of the game is that white men are evil and destroyed the world. Luckily, before white cis male scum could ruin the world, a group of diverse and empowered female scientists created an AI (which happens to be a black female). Said AI helped rebuild the world after the cis white scum destroyed it and made a utopia featuring a diverse cast of all religions (including very explicit Muslim people in the apocalyptic future), races (except white), and genders (except male). Then our strong, independent woman protagonist has to save the world again from cis white male scum to show that diversity is the true way of the future, it is a SJW agenda pushing game, that's it.
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>>386476048
this, but don't bother
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>>386450751
Mmmm Anri Okita
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>>386475741
>>386475906
They're actually smart about it though. They use the release of something they know will be a big success, then throw their games out in a similar timeframe. Then they create a marketing campaign around pretending there is an actual competition between the two. Nobody would know or care about HZD if it hadn't been marketed as a Zelda killer. By doing this, they ride the coattail of the successful product, and raise the sales of their mediocre product. HZD failed to outsell Zelda, but it still sold far more copies than the producers of the game anticipated. Financially it was a success, and only retarded consolwar faggots think it was an actual failure, because marketing shills tricked them into comparing it to Zelda.

Now they're trying the same thing with XboneX, and it will play out the same exact way.
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>/v/ cries endlessly about the overwhelming success of The Last of Us
>/v/ cries endlessly about the overwhelming success of Uncharted 4
>/v/ cries endlessly about the overwhelming success of Horizon Zero Dawn
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>>386450751
She isn't sucking my dick as we speak.
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>>386476087
It just made shitall as far as profit goes, dumb fanboy.
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>>386476314
>Horizon Zero Dawn
>success
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>>386468348
Um Sweetie, DOTA? :^ )
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>>386447918
that game is the most sjw every thought of
every single aspect of it is designed to push far left agendas
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>>386458932
>Horizon is how games should be
Interactive movies?
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>>386475161
HZD was being shilled hard as "the zelda killer," so when BotW was revealed to be gotyay, the backlash and butthurt was and continues to be delicious.
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/v/ will be driven to suicide in a few weeks.
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>>386476469
ha
ha
ha
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>>386476469
>3+ million sales
>well recieved everywhere
>not a success

okay then
Are you nintendo supporters just retarded or?
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>>386476815
Please don't start this shit.
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>>386476815
MONTH
OLD
NUMBERS
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>>386476815
Seeing how much ps4 vs Switch sold there is, Breath of the Wild is destroying your shit by a landslide.
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>>386476469
Comparing it to Zelda will always be stupid. Ignore obvious 'Zelda killer' shills. As a new IP it did well, and I'll leave it at that.
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>>386476314

It's more like Sonykids keep trying to push the idea that they're good games to begin with and /v/ disagrees.
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>>386476815
>vgchartz
>not using the official 3.9m numbers
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when is her DLC coming out anyway
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>>386447918
It still baffles me that this mediocre game with poor quality control was so popular.
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>>386477080
>Games are critically acclaimed
>They sell pretty well

But yeah, nobody wants to play them right? Spider-Man won't completely dominate 2018 alone and won't sell millions.
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>>386477272
>poor quality control

Such as?
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>>386477232
Holiday season.
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>>386477051
Yeah true, one is a game worthy of being called revolutionary, and the other is bland shit no one will remember in a year.
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>>386477384
Still being talked about here on /v/ if that matter at all.
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>>386477316

Oh hey a Sony game with more gameplay than your average Sony title. Too bad there's gonna be tons of QTEs and the combat is basically bamham. One step forward, two steps back.

Call me when Sony goes back to the good old days of putting gameplay first before story and graphics.
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>>386477481
Just because it's sonycentral.
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>>386477316
Why bring a game nobody mentioned here?
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>White girl game everybody forgot about
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>>386477318
Poor AI, fucked up and glitchy mechanics, lack of general polish.
>inb4 never had issues with that
Because that would be a blatant lie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JWvrP6Xk4A
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What was Bred by the Wild's DLC? Some challenge mode thing or something?
What's Horizon's DLC? A huge fucking expansion?
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>>386467482
Kill yourself, you're part of the cancer that is lack of OC here.
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>>386477316
Insomniac Games when working with Sony is the darling child of the industry. People are gonna flock to this game no matter what. Critics will score it highly. There's nothing /v/ can so to stop this.
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>>386477605
Where's nintendocentral then? You gonna let them take NeoFAG and /v/? Pathetic.
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>>386447918
why? because a completely unrelated game is doing a completely unrelated thing?
you do realize the gaming industry is not a zero sum right?
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>>386477735

>Calls a fucking zone "huge expansion"

kek
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Why do people compare a decades old beloved game franchise doing a thing it hasn't really done before to a new IP? Isn't that kind of unfair to the game that doesn't already hold a spot on the arms and tits and lower backs of people who've been playing the Zelda franchise since they were 3?
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>>386477907
kys
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>>386477907
>You gonna let them take NeoFAG and /v/?
Sonyfags have always infested NeoGAF like a cancer and in the last few years it's reached /v/ and it's terminal.
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>>386451809
>Watch entire video
>First impression of Zelda is horrible.
>Horizon has neat graphics
>Zelda has a lot of pretty neat details that shine on their own
>Horizon is oretty generic shit.
>Zelda's water actually looks gorgeous.
>Zelda's physics are fucking amazing
>Link can interact with pretty much anything while Aloy is restricted to very few elements, which leaves the beautiful world much more like just a pretty illusion.
>Can't actually damage allies.
>On Zelda, they even get scared if you flail around.
>Climbing in Horizon is restricted to a few samey rocks, while in BotW you can climb any fucking thing.

Not a Zeldafag, I've only played the 2 first ones, but there's no fucking contest. It's pretty much "muh graphics" vs gameplay, cinematic experience vs immersion.
Horizon feels artificial while Zelda's world feels alive and engaging.
Zelda is superior in almost every single way, a better game and a model to follow. Fuck graphicfags.
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>>386473847
Piracy raped its sales just like piracy is raping the sales of BotW. Look at all the people on /v/ who stole it.
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>>386478410
>Zelda's world feels alive and engaging

I wouldn't go that far. Mechanically it has the basis to make that true but BotW's world fucking suuuuuuuuucks
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>>386478410
>>On Zelda, they even get scared if you flail around.
It's hilarious moving a metal box under the platforms and watching them freak the fuck out.
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>>386478571
Then the video is just plain shilling, but while on Horizon you could swim straight through big fishes as if they were ghostly on BotW you could fucking dive into the water, swim faster, tackle that finned motherfucker into the shore and catch it with your bare hands. That's pretty fucking awesome. No game that I know does this.
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>>386470161
Not when every shitposter in those threads seems to have THE EXACT SAME criticisms every thread
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>>386476792
>the backlash and butthurt was and continues to be delicious.
Yes i cant believe people are still upset over HZD being a success
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>>386451943
>pure marketing
That's Sony in a nutshell. If you haven't learned not to trust a single thing you see from Sony or Ubisoft by now, then you have to have some sort a mental disorder. That's not to say Microsoft or EA etc. don't do vertical slices and pretty things up more than they really will be. But I don't think Sony or Ubisoft have ever shown off actual in game gameplay that will 100% represent release product in over a decade. Remember, they're still claiming that checkerboarded upscaled 1440p is "True 4K".
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>>386479157
The game looks like shit. GET OVER IT.
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>>386479516
>If you haven't learned not to trust a single thing you see from Sony or Ubisoft by now, then you have to have some sort a mental disorder
>Ubisoft
Yet you see every nintenfag praising that Mario and Rabbids crossover
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>>386479516
But Mario x Rabbids look fun, right?
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>>386479638
What does that have to do with anything about vertical slices and "in-engine gameplay/PS4 equivalent machine" that Sony and Ubisoft are notorious for?
>b-but these other people are...
fuck off
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>>386479638
>>386479874
>not once in this thread has anyone mentioned rabbids
>off-topic bring them up to offhand criticize Nintendo because addressing the actual topic would mean being critical of Sony
The power of shitposting, everybody.
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>>386479947
>no one falls for Ubisoft scams anymore
>but people on /v/ have been calling MarioRabbids a GOTY contender since it was revealed
>s-shut up THAT DOESNT COUNT!
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>>386480074
>comparisons are now shitposting
>its ok if people are hyped for a Ubi game on Nintendo but not on Sony
The power of retards, everybody
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>>386477384

>botw
>revolutionary

Yeah, it's the first open world game that you can fuck around in of its kind. Truly revolutionary stuff. Horizon is shit but zeldafags are delusional on another level.
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>>386479947
>>386480074

>If you haven't learned not to trust a single thing you see from Sony or Ubisoft by now, then you have to have some sort a mental disorder
>not to trust a single thing you see from Sony or Ubisoft

>trust

Just say look like Ubisoft games when they're on Nintendo kiddo. Save yourself the embarrassment.
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>>386480089
>>but people on /v/ have been calling MarioRabbids a GOTY contender since it was revealed
People were skeptical of it from the reveal anon, it was a slow warming up to it as more and more about it was revealed.
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>>386480089
>>386480191
Who are you two argueing against? Literally no one has said anything about rabbids or GOTY relating to Nintendo until you two retards came along. How do some retards in some other thread made when the fuck ever related in anyway to the topic of Sony and Ubisoft being deceitful with their marketing?

Pic related
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>>386480429
But you said that anyone who still falls for Ubisoft games is an idiot but now you say its looking good, dude you should just follow >>386480417
advice and come out as a biased fanboy already
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Explain this Nintenfaggots
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>>386480441
>if you look forward to any UBISOFT game then you're an idiot
>then how do you explain the people who are hyped for the Rabbids game made by UBISOFT
>that has nothing to do with the topic of UBISOFT games shut up
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>>386480591
Cute 2 months late information
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>Horizon is a cinematic experience with a strong independent womyn protagonist who don't need no man

>Zelda is a cinematic experience with females who are completely useless and exist only to cry like babies and show off their tits

Throw both of them in the garbage.
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>>386480520
>But you said
I didn't actually.
And even then that anon isn't wrong, no one fell for Mario + Rabbids because again they were skeptical from the start and warmed up to it as more was revealed. It's also worth noting that the majority of what we've seen is direct gameplay unlike say, Asscreed.
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>>386480591
Explain it indeed.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html
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>>386480429
Just admit you're a faggot already.
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>>386480715

>Zelda is a cinematic experience

Except it's not. Just because it has cutscenes that take up 5% of the game doesn't mean it's cinematic. You may as well classify any games with cutscenes to be cinematic.
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>>386480591
>Yurope
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>>386480591
That is clever leaving out the wiiu sales too.
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>>386480591
one is getting sold on THE MOST sold current gen system which is also quickly climbing up to be one of the most sold consoles ever
the other is an exclusive to two dead consoles
yet they have both sold almost the same

you are the only one with explaining to do
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>>386480739
>It's also worth noting that the majority of what we've seen is direct gameplay unlike say, Asscreed.
Except Asscreed most of the shows gameplay after the reveal trailer and they showed more of it today and from the looks of it it looks fun, now go ahead and tell how im wrong, lets you backpedal hard
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>>386475741
In my country, Sony discounted PS4s for 50/75€ only on the Switch launch day; I'm a Sony fan, but you have no idea how arrogant Sony is during these days
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>>386480916
>Except Asscreed most of the shows gameplay after the reveal trailer
Learn English and no the majority of the trailer was nothing but cinematics that didn't represent the actual game.
>now go ahead and tell how im wrong
How can I tell you you're wrong if you enjoy it? Fun isn't something that can be right or wrong. I can call you a simple minded fool with shit taste that's easily entertained by gaudy looks but I can't call you wrong.
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>>386480631
>things no one has said
Ok? But I'll bite.
>How do you explain people who are hyped for Rabbids
I don't know, I personally don't give a shit about XCOM with Mario so I couldn't tell you. That's like me asking you how people could possible enjoy building RC cars or some shit. It's argueing against phantoms.

>Has nothing to do with the topic of Ubisoft games
I don't know how you strayed so far from the point just so bring up Rabbids. The point is that Ubisoft and Sony are the most notorious for presenting gameplay and graphical quality that simply does not exist at, or in anyway represents, retail launch. I'm not talking about people being hyped for a product, or Rabbids. That's a completely seperate topic. I'm talking about how their marketing strategies present a version of the game that will not be sold to the public.
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>>386481125
>but cinematics that didn't represent the actual game.
Funny because Mario+Rabbids did the same yet you said they showed gameplay
>I can call you a simple minded fool with shit taste
is this you?
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>>386480874
>>386480887
>>386480690
>>386480817
>>386480874
Damage control by Nintenkiddies
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>>386472991

>Total install base of less than 20 million sells less than total instal base of 70 million
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>>386481249
>things no one has said
Ummm...
>>386479516
>If you haven't learned not to trust a single thing you see from Sony or Ubisoft by now, then you have to have some sort a mental disorder.
Sure no one said that
>I don't know how you strayed so far from the point just so bring up Rabbids
Sure how could i strayed from the topic of ubisoft games by bringing up rabbids A SERIES THAT UBISOFT OWNS
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>>386481332
No, they proved you wrong and you're talking shit.
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>>386481292
>Funny because Mario+Rabbids did the same yet you said they showed gameplay
Uh, you do realise that "majority" doesn't mean "all" right? As in the majority of what we saw when it came to M+R was gameplay and a small amount of cinematics while the opposite is true for Asscreed.
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>>386481489
>As in the majority of what we saw when it came to M+R was gameplay and a small amount of cinematics while the opposite is true for Asscreed.
Except we saw gameplay footage of the latest AssCreed right after the trailer for it
>inb4 those are cinematics because i said so
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>>386481639
You don't really understand what majority means do you.
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>>386481446
Jesus christ you are dense
No one said anything in this>>386480631 post as you quoted. And even with you quoting me verbatim in a new post, you still miss the point after I spelled it out for you like I'm spoonfeeding a baby with down syndrome.

>Sure how could i strayed from the topic of ubisoft games by bringing up rabbids A SERIES THAT UBISOFT OWNS
Because we're talking about Ubisoft/Sony MARKETING you fucking dunce. Not the games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNter0oEYxc
This is what I'm talking about you god damn idiot.
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>>386447918
Query: Why can't we like both, why do you need to have the game you've designated as "yours" win an arbitrary contest?
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>>386449124
>Horizon's snowy area is DLC
>Zelda had it from the start!

i can play this stupid fucking game too!
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>so desperate for people to buy their game they need to name it The Frozen Wilds in hopes that people mistake it for Breath of the Wild
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>>386482013
Horizon starts in a snowy area
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>>386468979
>pcbros literally playing their game before it was even released
>for the price of zero
i mean i don't usually endorse blatant shitposting but that's pretty fucking shitpostworthy.
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Why are Ninteniggers such rappid assholes.
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>>386459456
yakuza 6?
anri okita?
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>>386480849
then would you care to explain the 30 FPS which exists for no reason whatsoever?
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>>386462797
i can fucking see to the bottom of the water in zelda

i can't do that in horizon and DONT blame it on the setting.
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>>386482240

The fuck does that have to do with anything?
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>>386481883
>If you still look forward to Ubisoft games then you're an idiot
Posts later
>I never said that

>Because we're talking about Ubisoft/Sony MARKETING you fucking dunce. Not the games.
Yet
>If you haven't learned not to trust a single thing you see from Sony or Ubisoft by now, then you have to have some sort a mental disorder.
>But I don't think Sony or Ubisoft have ever shown off actual in game gameplay that will 100% represent release product in over a decade
You talked about the games, there's no denying this, the whole marketing thing you just pulled it at the last second, also back to the Rabbids thing, how can you defend people looking forward to it when at the same time you say that they will never deliver on what they've shown
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Zelda and Horizon are both great desu

I like videogames
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>>386482337
Only a cinematic movie game would run at 30 FPS since it feels more "artistic". Example: Horizon.
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>>386468753
her face texture doesn't match up with her body
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>>386481968
Because that's not funny.
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>>386482448

I hope you're pretending to be retarded.
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>Nintybabs so autistic they need to drop trow and shit on anything successful that is not a Nintendo game
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>>386482013
Horizon had snowy areas day 1, you start the game in a snowy area.
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Brand-loyalists who don't acknowledge the faults in any dev/publisher are the worst, no matter which platform.
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>>386482498
>it's retarded to want a stable 60 FPS from a multi-billion dollar company who not only developed the game, but the hardware it's on, thus leaving no room for error since they should know the specs of the hardware inside and out
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>>386482157
But hey, at least Nintendbros still hold them in such high regard. Nobody can break up an alliance this great.
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>>386482567
And god forbid one of there games fail. Pic very much related.
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>>386482567
It's called eye for an eye.
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>>386482786
The same mentality that led to people defending PSN +'s exhorbitant prices.

>b-but Xbox did it first

and look where it got us.
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>>386450936
The game takes place in a "what if ANYONE could be ANYTHING!!!!" SJW paradise where they just pull a race and gender out of a hat and that's what a character will be, only somehow every strong, noble character is a woman and every male character is an oaf, moron, villain or asshole. It's a game designed exactly to appeal to the SJW cult's values and only exists in its current state to please people like Anita Sarkeesian (or her fans, as anita herself is a con-artists who doesn't give a shit).

Would the game be much better if you played as a sexy chick or a guy in a more "traditional" world? Not really, but it would be far less obnoxious.
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>>386482408
>pure marketing
That's Sony in a nutshell. If you haven't learned not to trust a single thing you see from Sony or Ubisoft by now, then you have to have some sort a mental disorder. That's not to say Microsoft or EA etc. don't do vertical slices and pretty things up more than they really will be. But I don't think Sony or Ubisoft have ever shown off actual in game gameplay that will 100% represent release product in over a decade. Remember, they're still claiming that checkerboarded upscaled 1440p is "True 4K".

>If you still look forward to Ubisoft games then you're an idiot
Wow, look, that was never said at any point in my post
>You talked about the games because you said gameplay
Wow, talk about not understanding context. Notice how I prefaced my post with ">marketing".
That should give you a pretty strong hint like a neon sign at night that I'm not speculating on the game quality or what I personally am hyped for, but that I'm talking about how Ubisoft and Sony lead deceitful marketing campaigns and present videos with textures, animations, backdrops, gameplay elements etc. that are no where to be found in the final retail product.
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>>386482676

It's an open world game. The game was optimized for the Wii U, not the Switch. 30 FPS is due to hardware, not a decision to make the game appear cinematic, you drooling retard.
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>>386482786
And as they say we all go blind. Why can't we just enjoy video games with fanboy bullock?
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>Sony internally consider it a failure and are considering axing Guerilla if they don't succeed with their next title
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, SJWs are getting fucking rekt
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>>386447918
Oh damn I was hoping September. Whatever, I am still going through the main hame. It's pretty fun killing those damn things. Specifically the fucking birds, making them fall off the sky and hitting a critical is neat. Hope this adds more robot animals.
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I will never understand why Horizon gets memed on so hard here. It's a very solid game and its not even trying to do something similar to Zelda.
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>>386482902
>The game was optimized for the Wii U
Is that why the Wii U version runs way worse?
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>>386482902
>let's sacrifice stable gameplay performance for the sake of a large sandbox that's filled with nothing but puzzles for 5 year olds, casually beaten enemies and korok seeds

Yeah, I'm not seeing how this isn't cinematic. A movie game doesn't put 100% of its emphasis on gameplay, and Zelda's guilty of that.
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>>386448396
Whats with this recent increase in retards that use @ ?
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>>386482980
You're trying too hard, but I'll hand it over just to shut you up.
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>>386482865
People defended the price rise? What about xbox?
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>>386482980
>making up bullshit to support your headcannon

You need help anon
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>>386482987
because most people on /v/ are neets and can't afford more than 1 platform. I got both games at release and while BOTW is definitely better, Horizon was a perfectly fine game.
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>>386481968
Sony and Guerilla deserve it for releasing HZD so close to BotW's release. And no, it's not the other way around; a new franchise ought to stay the fuck out of the way of a new entry in an established series, and the release was likely timed so Sony could take some of Nintendo's thunder away only it ended up being the exact opposite.

Either way, BotW is the vastly superior game and anyone who has played both will tell you the same. I'm only 40 hours into HZD (1/3 of the time I spent with Zelda) and I want to finish the fucking thing and be done with it, it's so goddamn dull and the awkward SJW writing is getting on my nerves.
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>>386483217
What if someone doesn't like either? I consider both Zelda and Horizon to be SJW trash.
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>>386447918
FUCK YES.
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>>386482939
Every time I ask the same i get told to stop being reddit.
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>>386481332
>objective facts that disprove your disinformation are damage control
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>>386482879
>Wow, look, that was never said at any point in my post
Err...
>If you haven't learned not to trust a single thing you see from Sony or Ubisoft by now, then you have to have some sort a mental disorder.
That's sounds like calling anyone who looks forward to those games idiots to me
>I'm talking about how Ubisoft and Sony lead deceitful marketing campaigns and present videos with textures, animations, backdrops, gameplay elements etc. that are no where to be found in the final retail product.
Some times yes, but most of what the've shown of Horizon made it into the final game, same with what they've shown of the AssCreed Egypt, and still you havent said anything when i called you out defending people who were hyped about the Rabbids game despite at the same saying how none of what Ubisoft shows makes it into the final game
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>>386483024

The game was built for the Wii U. It doesn't mean it's going to run perfect on the system it was built for.

>>386483052

> the sake of a large sandbox that's filled with nothing but puzzles for 5 year olds, casually beaten enemies and korok seeds

Nothing you described there was "cinematic". I knew Sonykids were retarded, but holy shit.
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>>386482980
Could you be any more transparent, Christ.
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>>386483287
Well if you consider Zelda to be SJW trash you should kill yourself.

>BUT LET CROSSDRESSING
It's a jokey thing played up for laughs, not a bold statement about being a tranny.
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>>386483217
Why would they give a shit about Zelda? It's a different game on a different platform released in a fairly empty month. Are you actually retarded enough that /v/ convinced you they were in some direct competition?

>SJW writing
NVM answered my question thanks
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>>386482617
that looks like shit dude
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>>386483353
>Nothing you described there was "cinematic"
Points of the map that exist as nothing more than transitions to watch cutscenes? Filler that has no point to exist in a game other than to casualize the bosses and enemies? puzzles that don't challenge you because that would be too videogamey? Those are token signs of a movie game.

>sonykid

Try again.
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>>386483217
>Either way, BotW is the vastly superior game and anyone who has played both will tell you the same.
I've played both and you are as wrong as a soup sandwich.
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>>386483427
>this is not SJW unless i said so
Well from my point of view HZD is not SJW, you're just scared of a woman being the protagonist of a game
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>>386483427
I was more referring to all the female characters, Zelda especially. When I see a woman have emotions in my video game, I immediately throw it away. Keep that garbage on tumblr where it belongs.

>abloo ablo I need to cry for 5 hours in a lengthy cutscene because I'm saaaad :(

Yeah that's nice, but you're boring ME to tears in the process.
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>>386447918
>The Zelda Killer electric boogaloo
Kek here we go again
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>>386483217
I like both pretty equally and put 80 or so hours into Horizon. It's almost like people enjoy different things or something
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>>386483217
Horizon's release was set to be in February before Breath of the Wild had a finalized date. It was just a coincidence that they were released so close to each other.
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>>386483217
Please tell me you're being ironic? I hope so. The fact that Horizon did as well as it did, so closely released to Zelda will never stop eating /v/ inside.

It's not even funny anymore as it is sad. I hope people seriously aren't stressing over a game they don't like being a moderate success.
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>>386483517
First of all, it was a response to "haha, Horizon added snow to be like Zelda" which was not true

Second of all, I own both Horizon and BOTW, the difference between the two visually is generational.
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>>386483517

>Points of the map that exist as nothing more than transitions to watch cutscenes

???

> Filler that has no point to exist in a game other than to casualize the bosses and enemies? puzzles that don't challenge you because that would be too videogamey?

>gameplay elements are signs of a movie game

Yep, you're still retarded. Pic related, it's you. I game on PC also.
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>>386483217
I played both and to be hones they are ok open world games, even with all the cool "ideas" they had they're still bound to the open world game formula, like HZD would've benefit from being more small scale and BOTW feels like a half-made game, where's the cool gadgets? Where's the cool dungeons? Where's the memorable moments and landmarks? Where's the cool music?
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>>386483217
C-can I have one of your (You)s shitposter-kun?
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>>386483941

Was meant for >>386483575
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>>386481332
How does it feel to be this retarded?
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It doesn't matter because come August 22, Uncharted is gonna outsell them both.
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>>386483343
>that sounds like to me
And yet it's not. You just wasted everyone's time with your inability to understand context because retardville (population. YOU) thinks that visual representation = hype

>but most of what they've shown of Horizon
No, it really hasn't. Go back to the Horizon demos that Sony showed off and notice just how much wildlife groups, animations, graphical fidelity got cut down for final product.
>Same with AssCreed
It's not even out yet
>and still you havent said anything when i called you out defending people who were hyped about the Rabbids game despite at the same saying how none of what Ubisoft shows makes it into the final game
1. It's not out yet. 2. I didn't defend Rabbids, I stated I don't give a shit about Rabbids after your dumbass thought that me criticizing the marketing of Sony/Ubisoft somehow meant that I'm saying anyone who looks forward to Ubisfot games are a bunch of idiots while defending Nintendo. The only person who got called out was you for being such a fucking simpleton. Go count the rabbits, Lennie.
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>>386483941
>???
There are entire points of the map, including the whole towns that exist as nothing more than exposition for NPCs or memories, which shouldn't be in a video game because I'm not watching a movie, I'm playing a game.

>gameplay elements are signs of a movie game
Gameplay elements designed to trivialize gameplay are indeed signs of a movie game, yes. They're barely a step above quick time events.
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>>386483608
No, it isn't SJW because it in no way shape or form conforms to the ideals of SJWs. Meanwhile everything about HZD is tailor made for SJWs, right down to the voice cast. If you don't think the game is a political propaganda piece, you are an SJW, and if you think that Zelda IS, you are a shitposter.

Conclusion, you are a shitposting SJW faggot that needs to get off the internet
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>>386483763
>The fact that Horizon did as well as it did, so closely released to Zelda will never stop eating /v/ inside.
The assmad is neverending.
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>>386484120
It's not, but it'll probably do okay for a $40 standalone thing. There's almost no marketing for this thing.
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>>386484120
She lookin at that like she gonna shove it up her ass

Nice
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>>386484180
Looks like you're upset because i dont consider HZD a SJW game, also despite being against SJWs you sure act like one, even asking me to leave your safe-space
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>>386469103
>If Horizon had the same mission you'd be complaining about SJW and so on
If Horizon had the same mission Link would be making "proud statements" everywhere and it would hammer down the whole "BE GAY, WOMEN MAKE BETTER SOCIETIES" completely un-apologetically down your throat every 5 seconds
The town would be littered with sob stories about this straight (white) male was MEAN or some obvious contrast to a modern problem except it was fixed perfectly in this world by [insert diversity lottery result]

In BoTW it's just a comical scenario
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>>386484157
>There are entire points of the map, including the whole towns that exist as nothing more than exposition for NPCs or memories
Name one location in BotW that exclusively exists for this purpose.

>Gameplay elements designed to trivialize gameplay
Name a single gameplay element from BotW that does this.
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>>386484120
>This is probably going to be true
brb killing myself
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>>386484180
>Meanwhile everything about HZD is tailor made for SJWs, right down to the voice cast.
And the same could be said for Zelda, your point?
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Love these kind of threads, keep up the good work anons
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>>386484157

You need to explore the map to find memories. Some take more effort to get to. I'm not even sure you've played the game. The game revolves around exploration, puzzles, quests, and fighting enemies. If you're going to cry about cutscenes you may as well shorten your library to a minuscule amount, RPGs have always had breaks for dialogue.
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>>386484430
>Name one location in BotW that exclusively exists for this purpose.
All of them really, from Kara Kara Bazaar to Lurelin Village to the Yiga Clan hideout, and even the Korok Forest. If there's even one NPC there who's job it is to bore you to death with dialogue, I consider it cinematic. At least if it's a Nintendo game. They should know better. I'd just call it bad if any other dev did it, since they don't know better.

>Name a single gameplay element from BotW that does this.
The weapon system in particular, wherein you get weapon drops everywhere, from everyone. It trivializes the entire point of your weapon breaking, since you'll just be able to instantly replace it. It's too videogamey to ask the player to conserve their weapons.
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>>386484386
I'm not upset, I just think you're retarded and or blind. The plot characters and lore behind the game adhere 1:1 with ideology parroted by the left. This isn't a matter of opinion, it is objective fact. You either need to not know it exists or actively ignore it in order to "not see" the game for what it is.

>>386484449
In what way can this be said for Zelda? There is nothing in the game that matches the ideology of the left. The only thing you've managed to even pretend is SJW is the Gerudo town, which numerous people in this thread have already debunked.
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>>386484428
The only Matriarchal society in Horizon tears itself apart. Did you play the game or read about it on /pol/?
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>>386484127
>And yet it's not
Well look who's not catching the subtext now, you said they were idiots, not me
>No, it really hasn't.
You gotta show proof about it
>It's not even out yet
Then dont talk shit about games that arent even out yet
>2. I didn't defend Rabbids
Yet you said people are warming up to it which you never followed up saying how those people were idiots for keep following Ubisoft tricks
>after your dumbass thought that me criticizing the marketing of Sony/Ubisoft
Im pretty sure your post was also critizing Ubisoft games too, by saying how they dont keep their promises of delivering the same game they shown at demos
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>>386484629
>You need to explore the map to find memories. Some take more effort to get to
Their mere existence ruins the game for me among the other issues. I HATE story in my video games. I despise it even. Am I reading a book? No, I'm playing a video game.

>The game revolves around exploration, puzzles, quests, and fighting enemies
So does Horizon, but that doesn't stop either game from putting a gross emphasis on the story and "cinematic elements."

>RPGs have always had breaks for dialogue.
Which is why there isn't a single good RPG in existence. Your point?
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>>386484724
So in other words, any game with characters that speak is cinematic? Every game needs to be as focused as Tetris? You are more delusional than AC fag
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Calm down children
Both games were terrible
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>>386484726
If this is fact give me a list of plot points in Horizon you feel align with lefty values. Is it because it has black people and women in it?
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>>386484726
>In what way can this be said for Zelda?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOQa29STAZQ

There is no excuse for a woman to clog up my video game with terribly acted emotions and feelings and other stuff straight off of tumblr. It adds nothing to the video game other than to try and make it seem "deep" and "pretentious".
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I LOVE VIDEOGAMES
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>>386484979
>sonygro falseflagging and deflecting this hard
calm down son
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>>386484929
>So in other words, any game with characters that speak is cinematic? Every game needs to be as focused as Tetris?
Let me ask you this: would you rather play Uncharted or Super Mario Brothers?
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>>386484724

>Kara Kara Bazaar

You pick up a ton of quests there. Some quests take place in there too.

>Lurelin Village

It's a nice small town with additional quests.

>Yiga Clan hideout

Nigga that's a dungeon.

>Korok Forest

There are 7 things you can do there.

>If there's even one NPC there who's job it is to bore you to death with dialogue, I consider it cinematic.

Do you have ADHD?

>>386484921

>I HATE story in my video games. I despise it even. Am I reading a book? No, I'm playing a video game.

Yep, confirmed autistic. If reading for a few seconds bothers you, you may be retarded.
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>>386484726
>I'm not upset, I just think you're retarded and or blind.
Sounds like you're really upset darling
>The plot characters and lore behind the game adhere 1:1 with ideology parroted by the left. This isn't a matter of opinion, it is objective fact
Except that despite everyone thinking that Aloy is a Mary-Sue in this game and a tool of the SJWs she's treated like shit by almost everyone in the cast also
>>386484814
Maybe you should play the game or at least watch the cutscenes instead of parroting whatever people say about the game's tone
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I don't understand these threads. They're two different games? Is it hard to enjoy both?
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>>386484921
>I HATE story in my video games.
Go back to Atari then
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>>386485169

BotW is nothing like Uncharted when it comes to cinematics. Calm your autism.
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>>386482032
some real wisdom between the shitposts, why are you on /v/?
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>>386485264
>Is it hard to enjoy both?
Yes because you sadly have to share a board with people who can only like one thing and hate the other
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>>386485036

>Is it because it has black people and women in it?

Most likely this. /pol/tards are easily triggered.
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>>386485184
>You pick up a ton of quests there.
Quests that take too much time to wade through dialogue for. Not worth it.

>It's a nice small town with additional quests.
See the above

>Nigga that's a dungeon.
More like a series of hallways, not unlike TLOU. Whoever thinks this is a good dungeon is laughable.

>There are 7 things you can do there.
None of which make the game better.

>Yep, confirmed autistic. If reading for a few seconds bothers you, you may be retarded.
OR! maybe some of us don't like cinematic movie games?
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>>386485385

You're pathetic really.
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>>386485036
>Is it because it has black people and women in it?
no, it's because it has leftist values in it.

>VA for main character is Ashley Burch, known feminist and sister to Anthony Burch, the man the myth the legend
>Entire backstory for the world explains that women were responsible for creating superintelligent AI that were going to propell our world into utopia, before white cis men got angry about it and created a virus AI that was supposed to destroy their AI, but went too far and killed all humans instead.
>Literally a digital file you can find about a political debate from 202-something over a debate on refugees, where the leftist muslim woman candidate is supposed to be the well spoken and level minded candidate (despite having been written by a child), and the opponent is literally a strawman of Donald Trump that instead of having arguments against refugees just says he wants to drown his opponent in the river
>Game ends with monologue from a scientist where she actively admits that she would never allow herself to have a male child, and this woman is supposed to be considered the most benevolent person in the world
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>>386447918
It won't kill Zelda but it'll definitely put HZD over in sales, if Frozen Wilds gets as much acclaim as the base game did.
>new enemies
>new weapons
>half the size of the base game, maybe a bit bigger
After all the patches, and a new difficulty not hidden behind a damn paywall, and apparent care they've given HZD, GG has my complete faith.
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>>386485294
Are you sure?

>promises massive amounts of gameplay, but fans insist that the game would be ruined forever if you took out the story
>but somehow the gameplay is still good in spite of this

Hmmmmm
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>>386485203
I've played it twice bud, where is your rebuttal to the objective fact I just dropped on you from the actual plot of the game?
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>>386485385
Trying a bit too hard anon, take this (you) and buy something nice with it
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>>386485264

Both are highly rated and considered a step forward in open world games. Naturally, people will argue about which is better, but this is /v/ where people sperg out instead of having actual arguments. I doubt people have even played both games and talk shit based on gameplay videos and screenshots.

I enjoyed both games and see merit to both sides. I personally like HZD more, but I can see why someone would think the opposite.
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Fuck BOTW.
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>>386485496
>VA for main character is Ashley Burch
So if Ashley Burch is in the game then its immediately labeled as an SJW game? Then i guess P4D is a SJW game too since she voices Rise
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>>386447918
I own a PS4, love TW3, BotW, TES etc. However, I'm lukewarm towards Far Cry. Would I enjoy Horizon? It looks pretty enough but everything aside from the graphics seems pretty standard fare.
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Witcher 3 exist. These threads are stupid.
Both are good games.
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>>386484857
>you said they were idiots, not me
And yet I never did.
>You gotta show proof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkg5UVTsKCE
>Deer machines do not roam in groups like that nor stay in packs when escaping
>texture quality higher than final
>shadow quality higher than final
>fog effects that aren't present in final
>effects qualities higher than final
>Doesn't present the RPG effects

>Don't talk shit if it's not out
If I didn't know any better I'd call you out as some Ubisoft fanboy who's angry about Rabbids. I'm saying Rabbids and AssCreed aren't out yet in context to we don't know what the final product will look like, retard. So we can't speculate on if they will continue the usual Ubisoft Downgrade that almost every other title has been subject too for the last 5 years.
>You said people are warming up to it
that was a different anon, you fucking idiot
>I'm pretty sure your post was also criticizing ubisoft games too by saying they don't keep their promises
And yet you are fucking wrong. A game not being the promised product does not mean it is inherently bad. Rainbow Six Siege was shown off as something it wasn't and yet I still enjoy playing the game. If I was going to criticize the game content/quality, I would have done so. But I'm not, I'm talking about the Marketing. Get that through your thick mongoloid skull.
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>>386485509

https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/filename/when%20someone%20says%20video%20games%20need%20more%20story/

Yep, it's this same autistic child. Holy shit dude, go cry in a corner. You're literally bitching about dialogue in video games. Stick to Candy Crush.
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>>386485545
>I've played it twice bud, where is your rebuttal to the objective fact I just dropped on you from the actual plot of the game?
Yet you "ignored" the fact that a society that was lead by a woman ended up in disaster yet you call this game SJW, looks like you're forgetting info just to fool people and make it seem like its following an agenda
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>>386485632
Is Rise the main character? Did Burch gush on her twitter about how her role as Rise was a pillar for feminism? No? Then you have no argument here. Those things are true for her role as Aloy, though.
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Imagine being so impotent and hopeless, so far removed from even the possibility of being truly integrated into society, having a family and meaningful relationships, and maybe passing on your autismo genes, that you need to cry and bitch about SJWs in every conversation about everything.
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>>386485685
If you love Witcher 3 you'll like Horizon because your taste is clearly shit.

jk, consider checking out Horizon when it gets cheaper.
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>>386485509
That TLoU includes gameplay segments to make the "movie" more cohesive. Maybe you could use this next time.
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>>386485780
So essentially your logic is this:

>game is good because it has lots of gameplay
>but it would be ruined forever if you took out the boring, bloated, unnecessary, excessive dialogue

And you call others "kids".
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>>386485685

I think if you love TW3 then you would like HZD. The open world is reminiscent of TW3 where you need to actually scavenge around and collect resources in order to create traps and ammo in order to fight creatures. The combat in HZD is also really cool and there are some awesome interactions between the different types of elemental ammo and the robo-dinosaurs that allow you to get creative with the way you fight. The story is also pretty interesting and is not what you would expect from a game like this. My biggest complaint is the side-quests are largely uninteresting and lack the character building that TW3 had, even for small side-quests.
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>>386483089
What do you not understand about "not even worthy of a (you)"? You're the retard here.
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>>386485685
I think you'd like it. It's much less like Far Cry and much more like a smaller/tighter TW3 with a bigger focus on fighting large machines and less on side quest stories and stuff.
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>>386485632
I really don't like Ashley Burch, but she does have a nice voice
>>386485685
If you like big open worlds with tons of stuff to collect you'll like HZD
Plenty of enemy variety, different weapons and ammo to try out.
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Why does it matter at all? They are on two different consoles and have 0 things to do with each other. Just play what you like and enjoy video games. Just a bunch of monkeys flinging shit for no reason.
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>>386485717
>And yet I never did.
Except you did, or do i have to link you to your own post yet again?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkg5UVTsKCE
>a downgrade to make the game more stable is cut content
By your logic all games have cut content, this is something all devs do, not knowing the limitation of the hardware they are working on
> I'm saying Rabbids and AssCreed aren't out yet in context to we don't know what the final product will look like
And yet we've already seen plenty of it, even the footage of the latest AssCreed shown today looks they havent downgraded it from the E3 presentation months ago
>If I was going to criticize the game content/quality, I would have done so. But I'm not
Yet your original posts said that they dont keep the same graphical quality they show at first compared to the final build , that's critizing the game's quality
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>>386485496
I never felt like the main villain was painted as anything other than a money hungry CEO with bad judgement, it's never so on the nose as "I'm the man I make the decisions!". He's just kind of a dipshit.

Why is the gender of the characters relevant at all? It's dumb to suggest that they are pushing some agenda just because the MC is female and the villain is male.
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>>386485897
>Then you have no argument here. Those things are true for her role as Aloy, though.
Is she? When i played it she seemed like a girl who just wanted to help people rebuild society, looks like you're just angry a game has a woman protagonist
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>>386485496

The amount of focus you put on gender and race is amazing. How do you even exist in life without having a mental breakdown?

You're imagining a leftist agenda because you hate women and muslims.
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>>386486364
No anon one side has to show dominance over the others game
Surely I can convince the other side my favorite game is superior with image macros and insults about water
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>>386451495
Because they are shitposting reverse shills

sony ponies should be glad they got nioh, yakuza and the superior version of automata but you just see crying about this generic open world shitfest without any actual posts that ever paint it in a good light
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>>386486464
See my other point referring to the data file about the refugee museum. They literally paint the image of "men are evil". If they weren't literally creating strawmen of modern day political opinions I would agree with you that the gender of characters doesn't matter. But add them together and suddenly you realize there is some serious bias in the writing that has influenced these decisions.
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>>386472991
Zelda has never been the biggest video game franchise in the world. I mean just look at the sales numbers compared to other nintendo franchise like Mario Kart
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>>386486630
I like what i've seen from both games. Eventually I will get Horizon but as for now I only have access to BotW. Console wars have always boggled my mind in their existence. Why does any of it matter? If you like an exclusive then buy the console and play the exclusive. If you can't afford it..Well thats nobodies fault but yours. People just like to make each other angry to hide their own lack of self worth. Its sad. Console wars are just insecurity wars.
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Getting a PS4pro in the mail and definitely getting Horizon in the sale. Pretty excited actually.
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>>386486989
>PS4pro
Good choice, man.
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>>386486598
https://twitter.com/ashly_burch/status/826230843311992832?lang=en

She literally sold her character on her twitter as the ideal feminist archetype. My statement there said nothing about what Aloy does in game, I said the VA portrays her in a certain manner. You are literally arguing points I'm not even making.

>>386486619
The focus on gender and race I am making is only in places where the game goes out of it's way to establish these things. I don't give half a shit about either, but to pretend like a game that literally has a mock debate about the refugee crisis isn't pushing a political view, you are pants on head retarded. For the record if the game were doing the same thing but in favor of the right wing, I'd still be saying the game is political propaganda. I'd just be saying that it caters to the alt right instead of SJWs.
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>>386487056
It was like 50% more but when I'm wasting money anyway why not.
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>>386487058
>For the record if the game were doing the same thing but in favor of the right wing, I'd still be saying the game is political propaganda. I'd just be saying that it caters to the alt right instead of SJWs.
You easily give a pass when Zelda does it though.

>haha look at all these useless women who bow down to the strong aryan white male! Men are truly superior! white power!
>but I'm not alt-right, promise :^)

And yet not a single complaint. Better yet, people try to pretend that it's "satire" as if that makes it better.
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>>386486424
>Except you did, do I have to link your post?
Do it, because I never called people looking forward to games a bunch of idiots. I said if they haven't learned not to trust what they see from Ubisoft and Sony by now, then they have a mental disorder. Again, talking about the Marketing, not the game.
>By your logic blah blah blah cut content blah blah blah to make the game more stable
No, you fucking moron. It's called a vertical slice, it's intentionally prettied up and made to look better than what the final product will be to draw attention and raise hype. Not to mention the PS4 came out in 2013 and devs get sent console kits and know what specs their working with before the console hits shelves so release titles can begin development.
>And yet we've seen plenty of it
Again, doesn't mean anything because we can't compare the true final product to what they're showing off today. Ubisoft showed off Black Flag, Unity and Syndicate in the same manner. And there were still crowd mechanics/textures/effects/animations removed and the game, with Unity being a buggy mess. They have a proven track record of showing off versions of games that don't exist along with Sony. and even worse, they also intentionally downgraded Watch Dogs on PC and even left the lines of code with better graphics in the files like people wouldn't find out.
>Criticizing the marketing = criticizing the game
You're a special kind of retard.
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>>386487058
There's a big difference between what people say in twitter and what they actually do in the game
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>>386487195
>Useless women who bow down to the strong aryan white male!

What the fuck are you even talking about here? The Gerudo? They are literally a self-sufficient tribe of warrior women who only need men in order to procreate. There is no male dominance here. How in the world is this right wing in any way?
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>>386487153
What are the differences in the pro and regular?

Btw in HZD I would say do the hunting trials as soon as you're strong enough because you get some dank ass weapons at the end
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>>386447918
>horizon thread doesn't mention zelda: dies before getting to 50 posts
>horizon thread mentions zelda: gets to bump limit
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>>386487436
I don't know specifically but the Pro has more graphics so games look and run better.
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>>386487410
The fact that Link can beat them all silly and are fooled by his trans-cross dressing get-up is just alt-right pandering and transphobic at that. Nobody likes a Mary Sue or /pol/ bait.
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>>386487391
You're right, there is. Now go find the post where I said anything about what the character Aloy does in the game. Oh wait, I have literally made no such post in this entire thread. The only in game characters whose actions I have brought up are all the characters from before the game begins. The backstory world building characters. Politicians from 2020 and scientists that built AIs.
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>>386487195
Seek help you insecure autist.
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>>386487534
I don't like /pol/ either but now you're just being silly. Or false flagging of course.
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>>386487682
>>386487615
See? You find excuses to justify it only when it's convenient for you.
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>>386487314
>I said if they haven't learned not to trust what they see from Ubisoft and Sony by now, then they have a mental disorder. Again, talking about the Marketing, not the game.
>what they see from Ubisoft and Sony
Yes, what they see in the screen is gameplay not the marketing guy, you pulled the marketing thing at the last moment
>No, you fucking moron. It's called a vertical slice, it's intentionally prettied up and made to look better than what the final product will be to draw attention and raise hype.
But that's true for any game nowadays not just some developers
>Ubisoft showed off Black Flag, Unity and Syndicate in the same manner.
The only one out of those that turned out to be a mess was Unity, the other two were alright
>They have a proven track record of showing off versions of games that don't exist along with Sony. and even worse, they also intentionally downgraded Watch Dogs on PC and even left the lines of code with better graphics in the files like people wouldn't find out.
Most likely since WD has been delayed so many times they just decided to dump the game once and for all, like i said developers not knowing the limitations of the hardware they are working on
>Criticizing the marketing = criticizing the game
Considering what they show you is going to be part of the game, you are undirectly bashing the game
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>>386487580
>The backstory world building characters. Politicians from 2020 and scientists that built AIs.
So going by this you're calling a game SJW based only on the things that only happen before the game begin?
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>>386486710
I always read the refugee museum log as painting both politicians as idiots, but I agree its kind of dumb and tonally inconsistent with other elements of the story
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>>386483089
The point is so they don't get a (you)
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>>386487580
That's my problem with your argument dude, post about videogames. I don't give a fuck about twitter drama or text logs and neither should you
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>beautiful graphics
>ugly feminist protagonist that you can't
get off to even if you haven't fapped in weeks
Are Sonynìggers actual cuckolds?
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>>386487891
>What they see in the screen is gameplay not the marketing guy
So when Sony shows off Uncharted 4 at reveal claiming it's all "in-game" or "running on PS4 equivalent", and it generates hype and interest in a consumer base, that's not marketing?
>You pulled the marketing thing at the last minute
Nigger, literally the first thing I typed was ">marketing"
>But thats true for any game nowadays not just some
And? I'm saying Sony and Ubisoft are the worst about it.
>Those turned out alright
That doesn't in anyway negate the point that prior to release Ubisoft showed off the game with graphical fidelity etc. that were not present in the final game
>Most likely since WD was delayed and devs don't know limitations
Fuck off with those excuses. The devs know what they're working with.
>you are undirectly bashing
It's "indirectly" and no I'm not. You're putting those devils in the details so you can continue to think you're not a retard.
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>>386488131
Seeing as how they are literally building their world off of an SJW propoganda piece, yes. The entire lore of the world is that feminism was awesome until men ruined everything, and now robots are living primitive lives in the world left behind. Just because the main story of this world doesn't run around toting the message of feminism doesn't mean this game isn't propaganda. They literally started with our world, then filled it with political parallels to ours that were heavily biased. At least in other games where they try to make it about the real world, they just make it a generic apocalypse like nuclear war/zombie virus. This one was literally right wing politics destroyed the world.

>>386488349
It wasn't twitter drama, it was pre-release marketing done through twitter for the game. And the text log is in the game, detailing lore about the game. I am talking about the game, and it's outward presentation in all aspects. You are attempting to narrow the scope down so that you can pretend like my argument is about Aloy being a girl. You know that when you look at this game, the writers that injected it with lore, and the actors that marketed on its behalf, that there is a clear left leaning bias. I don't even think you're a leftist, I just think you're too stubborn to just admit this fact because earlier in the thread you yourself were only looking through a narrow lens, and now that others have broadened that to expose this fact, you are afraid that you sound foolish. So you double down on your narrow scope, and insist that everyone else do the same. If you thought that I could actually make an argument about Aloy being a girl making this game SJW propaganda, you'd be narrowing the scope even further by demanding we only discuss gameplay elements.
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>>386476048
>Ocarina of Time had the Gerudo capture a team of carpenters to use as breeding pigs
I always thought the carpenters were just dumb and thought the Gerudo would welcome them in and so they ended up locking them down.
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>>386488481
>So when Sony shows off Uncharted 4 at reveal claiming it's all "in-game" or "running on PS4 equivalent", and it generates hype and interest in a consumer base, that's not marketing?
Not really, if a Mario fan got told the same and the final product wasnt the same thing he would still play it since its a fan of the series, same here
>Nigger, literally the first thing I typed was ">marketing"
No that's what that first anon said, you came out as someone who didnt like Ubisoft and Sony games
>And? I'm saying Sony and Ubisoft are the worst about it.
And that changes things because?
>That doesn't in anyway negate the point that prior to release Ubisoft showed off the game with graphical fidelity etc. that were not present in the final game
Like i told you that's pretty much the rule nowadays with most if not all devs
>Fuck off with those excuses. The devs know what they're working with.
If they did then how come some games are delayed to God knows when, this scenario happened with Star Fox Zero where the game looked great at first but got delayed to downgrade the game's graphics since the WiiU couldn't handle it without dropping frames like crazy
>It's "indirectly" and no I'm not.
But you did
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>>386489149
>he would still play it
No ones talking about being hyped for a game dumbass
>No that's what the first anon said
I am that first anon, dumbass.
>You came out as someone who didn't like Ubisoft and Sony games
I don't know where you got that idea since earlier I said I enjoy playing Rainbow Six Siege
>And that changes things because?
Because we're talking about marketing, and they're the worst about lieing to their consumers. Hence why I pointed out that Sony still claims that upscaled 1440p is "True 4K".
>that's pretty much the rule nowadays
And people are tired of it because it's misleading. Thanks to Sony and No Man's Sky there's an even bigger resurgence in consumer backlash against vertical slices and bullshots
>then how come some games are delayed
Because maybe it wasn't what they wanted, maybe it was a giant mess, maybe the publisher made a business decision that affected the creative side (such as with Rainbow Six Siege) and forced them to scrap something.
>Star Fox Zero
Wow, you found a game that got delayed because the devs couldn't get it to work on the WiiU and that somehow justifies WD. What part of WD had lines of code that made the game look even better on PC, on the disc with little to no performance hits, do you not understand? There was a whole controversy over the fact that Ubisoft acknowledged they downgrade their games to reach PC and Console parity.
>But you did
No, I didn't. You think I did because you're unable to divorce the Marketing from the Game. Don't blame me for you being a dumbass.
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>>386486095
I'm glad I haven't fooled myself into thinking (You)s mean fucking anything at all.
Consider going back to rddit seeing as you enjoy the concept of denying people internet points you fag
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>>386480591
massive marketing campaign in europe where everyone already had a fifa machine
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>>386490024
>No ones talking about being hyped for a game dumbass
>and it generates hype and interest in a consumer base, that's not marketing?
Once again stumbling on your own words
>I am that first anon, dumbass.
>>386451943
?
> Hence why I pointed out that Sony still claims that upscaled 1440p is "True 4K"
You sure blame Sony for something pretty much every dev who promises that does
>Thanks to Sony and No Man's Sky there's an even bigger resurgence in consumer backlash against vertical slices and bullshots
You say this despite people still buying these games that "lie" to them
>Because maybe it wasn't what they wanted
That's hard to believe, most of the games given most examples you mentioned are games Ubisoft made in-house with their own devs
>There was a whole controversy over the fact that Ubisoft acknowledged they downgrade their games to reach PC and Console parity.
Which leads to what I was saying of devs delaying games because the scope of the project being way too big and having to downgrade things so they could make the game work on weaker machines or rushing a game after being delayed so many times
>You think I did because you're unable to divorce the Marketing from the Game.
But by insulting the gameplay shown in screen you're also complaning about the game since that's what youre getting
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>>386476815
>>386480591
>It's only okay when WE use VGChartz to shitpost
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>>386490637
>stumbling over your own words
No, I'm not. You're just a complete idiot. Marketing is what causes the hype. Being hyped enough that you buy and enjoy the game is a different thing. I don't give a shit about the later.

That's not me, retard. >>386479516 This was me

>pretty much every dev promises
No other dev promises that. Sony develops the PS4 Pro, it is by their marketing that they claim they are delivering "true 4K" when it's really a checkerboard system of upscaled 1440p or 1800p some off the wall below 2K resolution to simulate "4K". The only other "dev" that could do this would be Microsoft but the XboneX isn't out yet so we don't know if they will deliver true 4K or not.
>that's hard to believe because their in house
Rainbow Six Siege was in house and it got delayed because of Ubisoft higher ups meddling with the dev cycle. Just because the dev group may share a name with the publisher does not mean they flow in sync perfectly. Siege was originally Patriots and then one day the higher ups came down and told the devs to scrap it all and keep one thing to take over to the next console generation because they didn't think Patriots would be a good game. Your own example, Star Fox, was in house and yet wow look at that it got delayed because the Dev couldn't deliver on the product they wanted
>weaker machines
What weaker machines? the PS4 and Xbone? That's what they worked with because they knew that was their constant. The only variables would be PC and even then they get to choose their upper and lower limits. Your excuses are as retarded as you.
>But by insulting the gameplay on screen you are insulting the game since that's what you're getting
But it's not what you're getting....you're not getting an open world game with simulated wind that blows cans down the street and volumetric fog effects, you're getting a stale GTA clone....that's the point...

How are you this dumb?
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>>386447918
>Zelda is FINISHED
again?
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>>386491983
>Marketing is what causes the hype
>Being hyped enough that you buy and enjoy the game is a different thing.
How those are different? You're still looking forward to the game either wayand you're now moving the goalpost by bringing up that hype is generated by two different things
>This was me
No you talked about bashing games, that anon was talking about marketing
>No other dev promises that
Microsoft and pretty much every PC dev that thinks that could deliver that
>Rainbow Six Siege was in house and it got delayed because of Ubisoft higher ups meddling with the dev cycle.
>Your own example, Star Fox, was in house and yet wow look at that it got delayed because the Dev couldn't deliver on the product they wanted
Due limitations of the hardware they were developing for devs are willing to downgrade the game graphics so the end result wont become an unplayable mess, we've been through this already
>What weaker machines? the PS4 and Xbone? That's what they worked with because they knew that was their constant.
Yet they never seem to learn, maybe because they were aiming for when the Pro and XB1X came out
>The only variables would be PC and even then they get to choose their upper and lower limits.
Not exactly, sometimes a PC port can be botched, even on PC at max settings its not the same as the initial screens they showed
>But it's not what you're getting....you're not getting an open world game with simulated wind that blows cans down the street and volumetric fog effects, you're getting a stale GTA clone.
See you did it again, you're bashing a game
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>>386448803
I prefer BotW over Horizon, but
>fight with a cursed dragon
Motherfucker that was some of the most disappointing shit in the whole fucking game. They had a chance to make an actual fucking boss fight that felt cool where it attacked you and the corruption was meaningful, instead it's just "Lol glide for six minutes and shoot at eyes while the dragon does literally nothing to stop you."

Zelda is a great game, but they shit the bed on boss fights.
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>>386493320
The final fight with Ganon was a travesty
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>ITT: Another PCfat tricks you faggots into having another flamewar.

When will you learn?
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