Why does it look so... bad?

Because it's too friendly.

>be 8 years old
>boot up Metroid on my older brother's SNES
>shitting bricks at the spooky atmosphere

thats what made it good

Looks good to me

>>386420304
Why do you keep making these threads, ACfag?

because it's on a 7 year old handheld that was dated as soon as it came out.

>>386420479
>>be 8 years old
Hmmmm I wonder why

>>386420304
>art direction is ass
>graphics and effects are ass
>level design is ass
and they changed an exploration game into a beat-em-up

Nintendo can't win with you fucks

>>386420479
You're retarded. Metroid has never been scary.

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"""Boss fight"""

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>cry for a 2d metroid
>get a 2d metroid
>"this is not the 2d metroid i wanted"

>Mercury Steam

That's why.

>>386420710
this this this this this

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>this is going to kill off the metroid franchise permanently
I cant help but laugh my fucking ass off

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>>386420773
Reminder to boycott the series until they release Dread.

>>386420773
This isn't Metroid.

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>>386420907
You can say that again, cinematic 'press X to awesome' has no place in a Metroid game.

Let's be honest, if it weren't for AM2R being better in every way, you would all be creaming yourselves over the prospect of a Metroid 2 remake from Nintendo.

>it's another Sony nigger, ACfag, nostalgiafags, boycottfags thread

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>>386421007
No we wouldn't because we have empirical proof that Samus Returns is shovelware tier.

Are Metroidfaggots unironically the most autistically indecisive fanbase on /v/?

I just want to enjoy video games.

>>386421081

Press x to samus.

>>386421086
These are falseflagging Sonybros and piratecucks.

>>386421086
i dont care for metroid but this game looks like garbage.

>>386420304
Samus doesn't have a transition animation between moving and standing. Flat undetailed background with 2d. Enemies look boring and recognized by a color instead of design. Lack of lighting and shadows. Repeated textures. Camera is too close and doesn't stay consistent. Screen shake and slowmo attacks.

>>386421086
This game is garbage. Anyone can see that.

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>>386420304
It looks good to me, but that's just my opinion, and we all know you don't care about opinions that are different from yours

post the majora's mask one

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>>386421208
>Several webms showing the game is cinematic trash like Bayonetta and Uncharted
>'Just false flaggers, Sonybros and pirates guys!'

>>386421007
Haven't you heard the Zero Mission purists? even AM2R wasn't good enough for them.

>>386420304
It doesn't

>>386420718

Nintendo's track record in recent years proves they are undeserving of benefit of the doubt.

>>386421208
I'm a Metroid fan and I think the game looks like trash.

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>>386421290
Where did it all go so wrong that a game from 2000 looks better than Samus Returns?

the melee shit is optional, and you are actually retarded if you think nintendo was going to make a sprite-based game in 2017

>>386421086

The game looks bad. You can see with your eyes that it looks bad.

>>386421292
>saying bayonetta is trash
what a way to invalidate anything else you say

So when are Sony niggers and nostalgia faggots going to get tired of shitting up 2D Metroid and FPS Halo threads?

>>386420768

Uhhhh what the fuck is this? Why would they do this?

>>386421292
Parrys are cinematic now? That's the craziest thing I've heard since someone on this board claimed Paper Mario's combat is all QTE because you time your button presses.

>>386421406
>and you are actually retarded if you think nintendo was going to make a sprite-based game in 2017
Why? Sega is doing it and it's being praised left and right.

>>386421374
Left looks better than this shitty rainbow mess

>>386421406

The combat is built around the melee counter. Enemies present long telegraphs and flash brightly for several moments before attacking. You're encouraged to use the counter as often as possible to expose weak points and chain shots together.

>>386420304
2d game with 3d engine just screams "we are following a formula here"

>>386421002

That better just be a part-time gimmick or an attachment you can swap out

>>386421475
When the player presses a button and the game completely strips control away from the player to shove style over substance cutscenes down their throats that is the epitome of a cinematic experience.

If your game can't stand on its own when everything that isn't gameplay has been ripped out of it, it's not a good game.

It doesn't look bad, but what the fuck is up with the zoom-in shit in a 2D game?

Should've just bought out the AM2R dev and ported that instead.

>>386421368
track record of what? making good games? because theyve been pretty consistent with that.

>>386420304
The background seems...empty and spacious

>>386421576
There are no cutscenes you absolute retard. Parries temporarily stun enemies and powers up your next attack. The only time you get "cinematic QTE" is when you choose to use SUPER MISSILES after parrying a boss metroid.

>>386420768
revolutionary -cinematic- experience

>>386421081
Please no Nintendo. My dreams...

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>>386421609
Yes how could we forget the industry changing Tri Force Heroes.

They could've fixed this in a few easy ways
>enemies do not get stunned by it
>game doesn't slow down for "le epic cinematic moment"
>doesn't work on bosses period
Boom, instantly better. I think the bigger issue is that Samus shouldn't have a melee attack to begin with. She's a ranged fighter. If you want melee combat, you need to dedicate to it and base the whole game around it. This just screams of a gimmick I'm not even gonna use, and the whole game will likely be broken because of it.

>>386421648

According to ACfag, anything that isn't just a pixel on a screen is a cinematic experience. Basically, it's ironic shitposting, he's just being dramatic to satirize people who claim certain games are cinematic.

>>386421672
or hey pikmin

and chibi robo ziplash

>>386421672
Fuck this Fed Force-tier shit. All they had do was make a game like ALBW that echoed what made LA and the Packers so good. Nobody likes this pseudo-multiplayer garbage.

>>386421576
>Press button
>Character plays an animation instead of just shooting out square polygons from its square body.
>Enemy isn't just a square polygon getting hit by the polygon and the game displaying detailed spreadsheets of damage information

WTF IS THIS CINEMATIC BULLSHIT. THE LAST REAL GAME WAS ON THE ATARI NOW EVERYTHING IS JUST A MOVIE

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>>386421648
The player presses a button which then causes a sequence of movement from Samus that is not being controlled by the player, it's cinematic nonsense that has no place in a Metroid game.

>>386421807
nice strawman

>>386421807
See >>386421823
and >>386421851

>>386421806
>the Packers
the Oracles*

>>386421807
>THE LAST REAL GAME WAS ON THE ATARI NOW EVERYTHING IS JUST A MOVIE
Nobody said that. This is literally the definition of a strawman.

>>386421292
>Trash and Bayonetta in the same sentence
Leave. I will be preordering samus returns to directly spite you.

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>>386420304
>>386420768
>>386421002
>>386421081
Isn't this just Smash Run?

>>386421564
Sadly, it seems the game is balanced around the mechanic. The enemies glow a bright color to clearly telegraph to the player that they are charging, the parry window is massive and the game even automatically aims for you after performing a successful parry.

>>386421807
>hurr hurr glory kills in DOOM totally brakes the flow of the game
>i-i-i-it's okay when Nintendo d-d-does it!

>>386421807
Nu-troid apologists are clinically retarded

>be nintendo
>hear fans want a metroid game
>shit out federation force because out of touch
>fans hate federation force
>"oh, you want REAL metroid game? ok..."
>force interns to make it
>stifle all creativity by claiming fans want it like the original
>force in garbage modern elements because you don't understand what gameplay is and think the only thing that defines a game is the visuals
>fans hate new metroid game
>interpret this as metroid being unpopular
>can metroid series and proceed to make another 15 mario games

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>>386421807
>dude everything needs 100 billion dollar graphics budgets and deep lore and diversity quotas
>it's [current year] guys

Millenial pls.

>>386420898
I havn't heard of this one before, is it supposed to be after fusions?

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>>386421292
>Bayonetta
>Cinematic trash
You realize that they only have like 1 or 2 cutscenes per long ass chapter, and that spamming the executions is actually detrimental to your combat rating, rght?

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>>386422005
>There are people who unironically think the left looks better than the right

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>>386421959
>doesn't like an opinion
>will buy a shitty looking game to spite someone because they hold that opinion

Are you autistic? Wonderful 101 is way better than Bayonetta anyways.

>>386420783
this

it's the shit tier dev, they're retarded spaniards

>>386420773
>accept a shit product because it's in the style of something good

>>386421887
Still incorrect. There is never once a moment during gameplay in previous Metroid games where control is taken away during an attack. Metroid does not have "PRESS X TO AWESOME"

>>386422004
why the fuck did i type brakes instead of broke, lmao

i'm more retarded than that retard

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>>386422047
If the gameplay in the game is so good then why does it need over two hours of cutscenes?

>>386422047
>spamming the executions is actually detrimental to your combat rating, rght?
Replayed Bayonetta several times and never knew this.

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>quarter circle forward quarter circle forward
>which then causes a sequence of movement from Ryu that is not being controlled by the player it's a cinematic nonsense that has no place in a Street Fighter game

>>386422047
>detrimental to your combat rating
And is this somehow supposed to be a bad thing? It's numbers and letters on a screen, who the hell cares? It's honestly one of the weakest ways of making a player fight a certain way. If i'm not getting punished for it, why should I consider it detrimental?

>>386420304
>that ugly cheap melee maneuver

eww

>>386422084
Your entire post is adorable. I was gonna buy it anyway, I just now have another reason

>>386422019
neck yourself you stupid fucking poser
dwarf fortress is the absolute last example of a good game there is, and this is completely ignoring the graphics and user ui (which are fine)
toady's not even making a game at this point and has shown that he gives no fucks about that aspect

>>386422029
It doesn't actually exist, m8

>>386422084
W101 and Bayonetta are both trash.

>>386422107
That's exactly the point that most people here are making.

>>386422029
Yes Dread was in development in the early 2000s as a sequel to Fusion but was scrapped, kind of wish we were getting it instead of SR but whatever.

>>386421956
No it's not. This is.
>>386422004

And DOOM's glory kills don't break the flow of the game.

>>386420304
The sharper graphics get, the less space they leave for the imagination to fill. I don't mean like, you concentrate on filling it, I mean just sort of passively. With a new property made in the modern age with modern or even semi modern graphics, this isn't too much of an issue, but Metroid (especially in this style) is an old property based on less advanced and more pixel like graphics, so updating things kind of makes them look a little weird.

Not everbody can move forward as well as Mario you know?

>>386422157
It's a punishment if you're actually trying to play for a good score, like for a pure platinum run.

>all these webms that are clearly trying to show off new counter mechanic
>pretending mercurysteam have a hand on this game's production enough to ruin the game
> "am2r is totally better than this game that isn't even out yet guise i swear"

it seems to me like people who don't even care about the franchise are going out of their way just to shit on this

2.5d or whatever looks like ass tho, i'll give you that. should've gone with sprites

>>386420762
Metroid is terrifying. more than your meme running hallway haunted house simulators or whatever you consider "scary".

>>386422240
>And DOOM's glory kills don't break the flow of the game.
Yeah they do because it's the exact same case as Nu-troid: cinematic attacks are added to a series that previously had none

>MercurySteam

LMAAAAAAOOOOOOOO

they can add another dead beloved franchise to their tombstone next to Castlevania

>>386422304
this post really tipped my fedora

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>>386422290
>I like it when Nintendo fucks me in the ass!

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>>386422193
>dwarf fortress is the absolute last example of a good game there is,
I'm going to say this again, as it bears repeating:

MILLENIAL, PLS.

I wish more people stuck with 2D graphics.
And not indie shit but good high quality 3D graphics.
Imagine a metroidvania made by Vanillaware.

Instead we get shit like this and Bloodstained.
What a joke.

>>386422345
They don't.
You lose.

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>>386420773
>it's shit
>"well! you're just not satisfied with anything are you?!"

Nintendo is just mad they were showed up by one guy with am24.

>>386422131
>a game can't have cutscenes and good gameplay
bayonetta 2 in particular also has like 16 chapters.

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>Crash Bandicoot has an hour and 30 minutes of cutscenes

Truly, a cinematic experience. This is trash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Drta27wZLQ

>>386422149
It's a good thing the hadouken is not a counter-attack that starts a cutscene where you are invincible and the enemy is completely vulnerable to your scripted attack

>>386422289
Which has the same worth as playing Mario for the score.

Looks like a 2007 PSP game

>>386422376
Dwarf Foretress isn't a new game. It isn't a classic game. It has nothing to do with "kids these days." It doesn't even resemble the best old Dos games. You're probably like 19 and think your hip or something.

>>386422131
Because 2 hours of cutscenes spread out over a 10 hour game isn't all that bad.

>>386422385
>no argument
Good, at least you admit it

>>386422413
Why does it have cutscenes to begin with if it's allegedly a gameplay focused game? Anytime spent not actually playing the game is trash, the only acceptable story is a few lines of text at the beginning or even better in the game's manual.

I wonder if Metroid 5 will be for the Switch since Nintendo is going to be releasing a Switch Slim next year. Seeing how Sakamoto and EPD are back on board and MercurySteam is team Nintendo can collaborate with to make the 2D game.

>>386422372
>not having a new 3ds
>caring about gallery and sound test when the internet exists

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>>386422448
I mean even if you're trying to be a speedrun spaz too, repeatedly spamming executions slows down your times, so I dunno where you'd find the joy in doing it.

>>386422372
yeah, i was planning on getting the squishy metroid anyways but that's a shit move

game still looks good tho

>>386422501
I enjoyed it.
You don't enjoy anything anymore.
You're like a living virgin walk.

>cutscene brainlets invading this thread
fuck off none of you even play metroid

>>386422476
>>386422413
The exact same thing can be said of movie games like Uncharted and Dragon Age: Inquisition. 3-4 hours of cutscenes, 30 hours of gameplay. I guess that makes them masterpieces now?

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>>386422443

>Press buttons
>forced to watch a long cutscene of Ryu attacking
>Enemy is helpless while he mercilessly uppercuts him
>Control taken away from the player

It's practically a Goddamn karate movie.

>>386420304
The bing bing wahoo effect.

>Another metroid thread
>people still replying to ACfag
I swear you faggots never learn

>>386422004
Bad example, /v/ defended nuDOOM to death.

>>386422443
That's called the shoryuken.

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>>386422567
>none of you even play metroid
?

The ONLY reason I couldn't enjoy OG Metroid 2 was because I didn't know where to go after awhile

Like where the fuck was I supposed to go

Same with OG metroid

Like I got fucking lost. I'm not saying to remove that aspect, I'm just saying why I couldn't enjoy it. This 3DS version looks too easy and less cramped, I liked the cramped GB design. Plus spider morph ball was the best

But seriously where the fuck where all the other 32 Metroids I was supposed to kill

>>386422534
Art gallery and sound tests where available upon completion of past Metroid games, why are you saying it's ok that previously free features are now behind a paywall that is limited in quantity?

>>386422543
Because it's not punishing you for taking the lazy way out. It's the exact same deal as these parry mechanics. They should make the game harder since they're pretty much an instant win button against enemies, and do huge amounts of damage to bosses. It's like a game with a dual morality system where there's no consequences for your actions, and the good and evil endings are only different due to their lighting.

>>386422642
worst Metroid.

>>386422532
could still be on the 3ds. zero mission was released the same year the as the ds

>>386422376
the game is fucking BROKEN you piece of shit
you either haven't played it in or are too busy donating your paycheck to toady every month
he hasn't done anything gameplay relevant in years
it's horrifically unbalanced in every aspect
you can't play the same game for more than 2 years without actively preventing things from happening
everything has been forgotten about so he can add more randomly generated history
you stupid fuckers who latched onto the "DF is a good game" meme should be exterminated

>>386420304
Because the 3DS is shit hardware and should've died years ago.

>>386422591
Europe is up. Most Eurofags are either console warriors or don't know bait when they see it.

>>386422443
Not to mention super attacks in fighting games work in a completely different way
>requires meter, a limited resource which must be built up and managed properly
>requires the player to actually hit their opponent with the super
>very punishable if blocked or whiffed
versus
>an unlimited use counter attack that can be used at any time and doesn't even require precise timing
>against bosses, it simply serves to interrupt the game with a cutscene and free damage
>against enemies, it completely negates any sort of threat posed by them

Because Nintendo hasn't made a good Metroid game since Super Metroid.

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>There are people right now, in this thread, who will defend this

>>386422726
Finally, someone who understands.

>>386422591
people will reply to the exact same bait until like a month after the game releases and shitposters find a new target

>>386422791
>North America doesn't reply to bait
whatever you say buddy

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>>386422743
>>386422464
So this is the power of corporate brainwashing to hate anything that doesn't have a billion dollar budget.

>>386422685
You obviously misinterpreted my post.

>>386422848
>Butt wiggle
When did Metroid start walking like a girl?

>>386422848
Nintendo fans are the biggest cocksuckers in gaming, of course they will. Most of them aren't even real fans of Nintendo games, they've never owned a system older than the Gamecube and they only care about making their own system look better in console wars comparisons.

>>386422848
Metroid 2's map is extremely linear
If they added any new hidden stuff in previous sections, teleporters would speed up backtracking.

>>386422838
they codeveloped prime.

>>386422932
I started playing games as a kid on Dos. I just finished a weekend of emulating old Dos box games. I just don't value a game by the style of visuals it uses

>>386422932
what's your favorite part about dwarf fortress
I can guarantee that I have played it longer and more than you possibly can, you have no argument

>>386422848
I'm just glad we're getting a game.

Whats the point of this? You'll play through it once and then what? Anyone not an autistic speedrunner wont get more than 5 hours out of this.

It's fine. The old game still exist. They are allowed to try new things in new games.

except amiibo, fuck that shit.

>>386423063
cuck

why do we have this thread everyday

>>386423168
Why do you defend garbage every day?

>>386420304
The colors perhaps

>>386423025
Or they could embrace what Metroid has done best and adds in new shortcuts as you progressively get upgrades. Teleporters will only incentivize developer laziness when it comes to macro and micro level design.
>B-b-but AM2R had them!
Not an argument.

>>386422992
that's samus erin.

>>386422662
metroid 1 had serious same corridor syndrome, couldn't bring myself to finish it even now. metroid 2 however, I beat that as a kid. I guess I had a lot of time to go back and explore everything. and yeah spider ball was the best.

>>386422848
Castlevania had these since Symphony of the Night, and they're no worse for wear. Why do you think they can't work for Metroid?

>>386423129
Okay. What does that have to do with what I said.

>>386422836

All you need to do to get a revenge ultra is get hit, then do some simple combo like quarter circle forward kick twice

>>386422932
Not those guys, but I don't see them mention anything about it being low budget shit, just it being broken shit.

The art direction and graphics are so fucking bad. Super Metroid looked better than this.

>>386420304
it seriously looks shitty and bland

>>386423223
Metroid 2's map is literally a downwards zigzag, they'd have to completely redo the map to add any meaningful shortcuts and they clearly haven't done that.

>>386423286
>Super Metroid looked better than this
Nice exaggeration

>>386422372
In order to unlock the Fusion suit in Metroid Prime you needed a GBA, Metroid Fusion, and a cable link.

>>386422743
Wow summer is hitting harder every year

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>>386423286
Are you serious? The left looks way better.

I love Metroid but fuck it, it looks bad and broken

>>386423365
epic trolling dude

>>386423046
>>386423056
Good thing it also has good, divergent gameplay. The problem is that it has a high bar of entry. Not enough tutorials and cutscenes to tell you what to do, so alot of erhem, younger audiences won't like it too much.

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>>386423341
It's not exaggeration.

>>386423027
Retro did all of the heavy lifting.

>>386423168
same thing we do every night, pinkie, try to take over the.... oh wait.

um, I don't know. you keep replying to it?

>>386423413
yeah you watched a let's play and called it a day

>>386420768
>wait for flash prompt to attack
Somehow I'm not as interested in this game as I was.

>>386420304
Why do like 80% of first-party DS/3DS games look like they just recycled the NSBM engine?

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>A fifteen year old GBA game looks better than a game for 3DS being released in 2017
L O L
O
L

>>386423379
lolno

>>386423498
Not an argument.

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>>386423379
Neither look good. Samus' basic suit design is perro caca.

>>386421292
>bayonetta
all these threads you keep making almost made me cancel my preorder and then you said that

>>386423512
The graphics on the right are objectively superior.

>>386423480

Kek

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>>386423308
really. I would've taken Metroid: esurance edition over that crap.

>>386420304
But where are the textures?

>>386422685
nobody fucking cares stop posting this every fucking day

Igavania was always better, anyways. Metroid has been dead since Prime 2.

>Metroidfags complain about this but they're okay with Other M
lol

>>386423503
The flash prompt is the indicator for it taking damage, not to damage it.

If you even played Metroid 2 you would already know that it's always open to attack on it's underside.

>>386423585
You are absolutely correct, really makes you wonder why Nutendo decided to ditch sprites.
>B-b-but it's expensive!
Nintendo are one of the most wealthy companies in the world, I think they can spare the extra money.

>>386422920
Just saying. Notice how console war threads always start around this time?

>>386423512
This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. You can't directly compare graphics between 2D and 3D games.

>>386423341
super metroid is gorgeous mate nothing wrong in looking worse

except this time. what, are sprites to expensive now?

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>>386423736
Why is it that no one ever provides an argument and just resort to derogatory and inflammatory posts?

>>386420304
Is this a port of AM2R?

>>386423893
Because the hundreds of times people have replied seriously doesn't stop you from making the same post literally every fucking day

>>386422685
For Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission required both games, a cable link, Metroid Prime, and a Game Cube.

>>386423863
3d models require less money and less skilled artists while being more flexible than hand-drawn.

someone needs to make an engine that focuses on making 3d models look like 2D sprites, like what Arcsys did with guilty gear and DBZ.

>>386423809
that is because console war threads start every single hour of the day

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>>386423935
Did it ever occur to you that I post the same stuff because I'm inviting people for genuine discussion rather than them projecting all these meaningless insults at me?

Someone responding to essential content being locked behind a limited edition physical DLC with 'shut the fuck up you cocksucker' isn't a compelling argument.

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>>386420304
Metroid was never good.

>>386423736
I care.

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>>386424015
Awful, isn't it?
>>386424050
No, you're trying to rile /v/ up and start console war shit.

>>386424050
sound tests and art on a 240p screen isnt essential content

>>386424148
/thread

>>386420304
Because Metroid is a bad franchise with an autistic fanbase.

Hope this doesn't sell and they cancel Prime 4

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>>386423379
Neither Returns, nor Super look good, the first good looking Metroid game was Fusion.

>>386424160
>start console war shit.
I have never mentioned any console outside of Nintendo's since that's where Metroid games are.

>>386424160
Not that guy, but

>you're trying to rile /v/ up and start console war shit
How? The guy attacking people by calling them "shit-tendo supporters"? Sure, he's riling people up. But if someone brings up some basic facts, how is that shitposting?

>>386422591
Fucking this. I got fed up with ACfag years ago. He's been spewing written diarrhea for at least 4 years by this point. How fucking new are people?

>>386424050
>Did it ever occur to you that I post the same stuff because I'm inviting people for genuine discussion
No fucking way
Nigga,you fucking trash games you haven't played just because you hate story in games,Nier threads are a victim of this
honestly fuck you and your shit taste

>>386423850
Objectively you can.

>>386424148
Super Metroid was good. That's it.

>>386424279
I don't have to play a game to know it's bad if there is no actual discussion of gameplay and just a bunch of porn dump which is all Nier threads are.

>>386423168
Antag has autism. Legitimacy can't stop making threads, shooting out shitty bait and drowning in (you)

But hey, shitposting doesnt make a game any less enjoyable

>>386424279
>Nigga
Stopped reading there. Go away nigger, you're not welcome here.

>>386424283
uh no

>>386424050
When exactly are you going to have this genuine discussion with the people replying to you?

>>386424362
>no actual discussion of gameplay and just a bunch of porn dump which is all Nier threads are
THIS
Nier is getting a free pass because of sex appeal. It's really just a dumbed down devil may cry.

>>386424362
There's no gameplay discussion because every attempt at it has been drowned out by banshee shrieks about shilling.

>>386424228
It's not what you say, but how you say it.

>>386424362
>I don't have to play a game to know it's bad
But you do,no wonder when you tried to trash Automata everyone laughed at you for saying stupid shit
You don't want a genuine discussion faggot

>>386424561
You sound like an SJW now. Go away.

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>>386420304
Ori 2 will be better than this

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>>386424525
When they stop resorting to all these derogatory terms, I have clearly laid out why I dislike the parry mechanic and how it reeks of Sakamoto advancing the franchise in the Other M direction.

>>386424601
Make me.

>>386422737
True, I don't care either way, as long as it's a sequel to Fusion, I'm happy.

>>386424608
lol why is there a x on its butte?

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>>386424561
>meanwhile anon has absolutely no problem with the 50+ zelda threads filled with nothing but circlejerking about how those "stupid sonybros" don't appreciate the best game ever according tot hem

Really... makes you think.

>>386424646
8 more years.

>>386421292
>this post again
leave 4chan

>>386424696
leave your parents basement

>>386420718
>Make bad games
>Fans of older better games with the same name dislike the bad games
>Wow I can't win with u

>last Metroid thread 404'd
>10 minutes later another comes up
>exact same webms used to shitpost
>exact same amount of (you)s replying to the webms with "wtf I hate metroid now" tier responses

Just let the series die. Holy shit

>>386424624
please reply to these posts then instead of hoping nobody notices them
>>386424164
>>386424279
>>386424160
>>386423850
>>386423312
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>>386421451

>>386421549
its a remake retard

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>>386424819
True fans wanted the series dead the second Dread wasn't announced.

>>386423512
Metroid Fusion was legitimately scary several times.

>>386420304
While it does look pretty bad, I can't say I have found memories of Metroid 2 to begin with.

>>386420304
same guys who made the lord of shadows 3ds games. that combat just doesn't work at all in 2d.

this looks like a bootleg metroid fusion

>>386424672
???

>>386424860
Nah, I want Metroid 5 but I want them to get a good feel of 2D Metroid before they make, I don't want another Fusion situation.

>>386422413
>>386422576
>>386422047
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>>386424696
>Responding to ACfag.

>>386421374
That swamp in Majora's Mask always looked like a fan hacked level. The art for it was atrocious.

>>386424860
True fans wanting a series dead isn't something that happens unless a series is going on for far longer than it should, like Sonic.

>>386424985
>I don't want another Fusion situation.
What do you mean? Fusion was great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI8FksvRyaM

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>>386420304
Based Samus Returns living in your head rent-free.

>>386424819
Metroid Dread and AM2R ruined the series and fanbse forever. This thread and last thread is proof enough

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>>386425147
>Good game and game fans have been anticipating for 15 years ruined the franchise

>>386425063
It was great but not as good as the other 2D games
>fucked up bomb jumping
>no one wall jumping
>you have to collect all of Samus's upgrades in order except for a few
>the remaining Energy Tanks, Missile Tanks, and Power Bomb Tanks locked off until close to the end of the game
>unable to go to all sectors until the game allows it
>game gives players a map and tells them where to go

(at)386425227
It's pretty fucking easy to see when it's an ACfag post. It's been FOUR FUCKING YEARS of the same goddamn posts.
If an ass thread was made you can bet your fuckin' mother's tombstone I'd be able to identify Vanessafag, too.

>>386424050
Here's your compelling argument: as much as I enjoy an extra hard mode, sound test, art gallery, etc, they are not ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to the game. They are not required for the game to function. Tons of games don't include those extra features (not that I'm defending the practice because I personally like all that extra shit) and are still perfectly playable. Is the practice of not including them in the base game incredibly shitty? Yes. Is locking the content behind a form of DLC that can have its supply limited by multiple means (scalpers, small release, etc) fucking awful? Absolutely. Is the content that is locked behind this bullshit, which need I remind you requires a cleared save file to even access after scanning the amiibo, required to enjoy the game? Hell fucking no, one would have to actually play the fucking game to get to this stuff in the first place, you stubborn ass! As much as I bemoan the exclusion of an extra hard mode (which, we aren't even sure if Fusion Mode is an "extra-hard" or just "hard") I recognize that it isn't a necessity.

Even further, I would encourage people to buy the game and just not buy the fucking amiibo to send the message of "Yes, I want more metroid, but fuck off with locking the shit I want behind amiibo because even if you (Nintendo) go through the effort of making cool stuff but locking it to figures like this then I'm just not going to give you the extra cash."

How about you address this stuff? You've been harping for the larger part of a decade now about the same crap. Better yet, get a trip so everyone here can fucking filter you already! If you wanted genuine discussion, we could have had it. ABOUT 5 FUCKING YEARS AGO.

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Good thread

>>386425456
This desu.

>>386424742
you first

>>386421823
>hold w to walk forward in a shooter
>both characters legs move just because you pressed w
well i suppose that unless you're controlling every individual muscle fiber on your character it's "cinematic nonsense"

>>386425328
Let's assume I buy the game, but I don't buy the amiibo. What's to stop Nintendo from thinking "they were okay with us cutting out content, so let's cut out some more and hide it behind even more amiibos? After all, they didn't care when we did it last time".

Apathy is death here.

>>386425768
Buying the game but the amiibo bombing would definitely give a message though too. Not him btw

>>386422131
this is some ebic shitposting

I just want the Amiibo because it looks cool. I don't care about the DLC stuff.

>>386426056
Did it send the message with any of Nintendo's other games? No, it didn't. Shoot, look at Zelda. In addition to amiibo content, they also lock large portions of the game behind a season pass.

>>386426164
Care to explain how I'm wrong?

>>386426164
He's right though.

>>386420762
Wrong. Prime freaked me out in my room late Christmas night.

>>386426248
>anon clearly states his post is ebic (hey reddit) shitposting
>anon asks him to explain how he's wrong

>>386426228
They did?

>>386420304
I don't understand what the problem is. "Oh no the enemies are actually aggressive this time"?

Complaining about the amiibo bullshit is valid but the hate campaign on this game has just been absurd. Thread after thread after thread. I'd like to think it's one autistic guy (the same one who made all those pro-Other M threads maybe), but this is probably just how /v/ is now.

>>386426397
Referring to the amiibos I mean

>>386426468
There's exclusive content you can't get in-game. Some reskins, some stuff like your wolf companion. Also, unique items that give you ingame advantages, like a bow that doesn't have falloff.

>>386426418
>I don't understand what the problem is.
-MercurySteam
-Melee counter
-2.5D
-Awful art direction
You'd be better off asking what isn't a problem, as it's a much shorter list.

>>386426535
Oh wow. That's actually really dumb. You win this round.

>>386422848
Teleporters in a Metroid game aren't a problem, its the implimentation. Prime 3 and AM2R have them, both unlocked in the late game for picking up farther out of the way items that you might have missed. Fusion and Super instead have the speed booster or power bombs unlock shortcuts back to other areas.

But this, this is Castlevania's teleporter system, which isn't bad, but it's put in because the game is generally much more slow pace, with lots of vertical level design, meaning it's harder to get back to certain places quickly. Movement options are also more limited in those games at the start. Metroid made it's fame with it's movement, so even with a more vertical level design that Metroid 2 had, it's not a problem. AM2R already showed that. It's a shame to see them using it as a crutch for some reason. I can't even say it's poor level design since we have seen so little. I guess the only reason is the 'pick up and play' thing they keep wanting to do and I really think this mentality is a cancer that is killing Nintendo. Especially for a series like Metroid, that prides itself on how short it can take to complete.

>>386420304

The power of 3D graphics on 3DS.
Should have gone with beautiful high-res 2D art instead of these gross-looking 3D models.

>>386426846
>Should have gone with beautiful high-res 2D art instead of these gross-looking 3D models.
This.

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>>386426846
Might want to get that shit taste checked out, the graphics are fine.

>>386426904
that looks awful

>>386425261
>cancelled game that no one knows anything about is a good game
>fan remake of a 20+ year old game is something fans have been waiting for

Purest form of autism

>>386421807
>people taking this seriously
Holy shit.
I thought it was fucking funny. Does no one on this god-forsaken board understand hyperbole anymore?

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>>386427009
>Samus Returns looks like shi-

>>386425768
There are multiple answers to this, but first you need to internalize a very simple concept:
NINTENDO WANTS TO MAKE MONEY FOR WHAT THEY MAKE.
I'd think that, after harping on this for so long, you'd realize this by now but just in case, I spelled it out for you because my next point hinges upon the above. Here it is:
NINTENDO WANTS TO GET MORE OF YOUR MONEY, AND THEY ARE WILLING TO DO WHAT *SELLS* TO GET THAT MONEY.
If the Amiibo does not sell, but the game does, that does NOT mean "People are okay with us cutting more content." It means "People will not get to see what we don't include in the box." If anything, it gives Nintendo an incentive to find a new, less shitty, means of selling extra content to the consumer.

>>386426228
>Season Pass
Yeah that sucks too, but that's a false equivalence here. The Zelda Amiibo sold like hotcakes and Zelda ALWAYS sells gangbusters. They could press one of Miyamoto's shits into the shape of the triforce and plate it in gold and people would pay for it out the nose. Metroid, for better or worse, simply doesn't have that luxury. People will buy almost anything Zelda.

Also the shit you get from Amiibo in BotW is as unnecessary as the art gallery in Samus returns. You can EASILY beat the game without fucking any of it so your argument falls flat there as well. It's unfortunate that the stuff is locked behind the amiibo, but that's probably the least impactful stuff that they could have possibly tied to the amiibo while still supporting their merchandise line.

>>386422848
>It's ok when AM2R does it

>>386424819
Shitposters have no rebuttal. Getting rid of IDs and flags was a mistake. Falseflaggers and shills are on full force for the summer

>>386427293

It's more than an art gallery locked behind amiibo in Samus Returns. An entire difficulty level featuring the fusion suit, something most people would like to play, is locked behind amiibo. Don't try to minimize what a load of horseshit this amiibo crap is.

>>386420898
You aren't going to get Dread if this game bombs, genius.

>>386422345
I mean you may not like it but it's part of the gameplay. It almost forces you to rush enemies non-stop. It's about brutality, and gore.

And HELLO, it's a fucking game in the year of our lord 2017 and it doesn't revolve around regenerating health. At least they tried something new, and at least it attempts to add to the gameplay instead of "hide to regenerate" pussy shit.

>>386420304
Yeah graphically the game is lackluster. I wish they would've kept to a 2-D artstyle. Samus' model in particular doesn't look too good. God please be a good game, if this game is shit and it bombs it may really be the end of 2D Metroids.

>>386427293
>If anything, it gives Nintendo an incentive to find a new, less shitty, means of selling extra content to the consumer.
You are a laugh riot. Nevermind the inevitability of scalpers just buying them all anyway, even if they weren't popular, Nintendo would still cut more and more content behind paywalls. And they'll still continue to not lower the main game's price to compensate. I'll be paying 60 bucks for Metroid Prime 4 and then 60 more bucks for the ending of the game, plus 30 dollars for each beam weapon. After all, what is the Nintendo defense for this? "what are you, poor? get a job poorfag." That's the common sentiment.

>It's unfortunate that the stuff is locked behind the amiibo, but that's probably the least impactful stuff that they could have possibly tied to the amiibo while still supporting their merchandise line.
So you're basically saying "shut up and accept it, Nintendo knows better".

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>>386427604
>if this game is shit and it bombs it may really be the end of 2D Metroids.

>>386421081
Wait... you can't move while aiming diagonally anymore? What the fuck, why?

>>386427237
-t

>>386427237
-t

>>386427237
-t

>>386427693
>>386427604
Pretty sure a big part of this was the fanmade Metroid game that was going around earlier this year. Nintendo knows that there's demand for a good 2D metroid game, but I dunno if they can deliver it.

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>>386427758
>>386427773
>>386427813
>Samus Returns looks like shi-

>>386420304
Why did they reveal a Metroid II remake game that looks rushed and bad, shortly after closing down AM2R? Of all the games to remake, and to develop a new engine for (assuming its new), they went with Metroid II? Coincedence?

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>>386427871
Haven't the past 2D games not sold very well though, I was under the impression Zero Mission in particular did poorly despite being an excellent game.

>>386420845
but prime 4

>>386421475
>Shits on Spider-Man for having QTE during cinematics
>defends a soulless Metroid remake for doing the same and making combat revolve around it

Really fires those neurons Nintenbro.

>>386427878
>PNG
>quality of a compressed JPG of a picture taken with a phone
Why

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>>386420304

...

>>386420304
>>386420768
>>386421002
>>386421081
>>386421002

It honestly looks likes a decent game overall. Just not a very good mainline metroid game

>>386420304
>That way the hitbox for the swing lingers
Holy shit. Is no one else seeing this? That's disgusting

>>386428058
Because he's a falseflagging shitposter.

>>386428061
Were these the two best looking games on GBA? They look absolutely incredible.

>>386427237
that looks aweful

2.5D is just a mess blur of tryhard faggotry.

why couldnt they have put some love and care in a 2d pixel artstyle? The screen has a semi decent resolution, they could have made something truly wonderful. Instead they just shit out something that looks akin to other m level of graphic fidelity.

bah, fucking gross.

>304 replies
>109 posters
It's almost like the same four people make this thread daily to whine constantly about shitty gameplay footage designed to show off a feature. Hmm.

>>386425615
you really cant equate a controlled action with corresponding animations to a singular button press with a miniature cut-scene

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>>386428158
Looks pretty good to me.

>>386428224
get your eyes checked

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>>386428265
Right after you get your shit taste checked, no other Metroid game has a color palette this vibrant.

>>386420304
The parry window is way too big, game for scrubs detected, into the trash it goes.

>>386428224
The colors are top notch in this shot. Too bad it's not hyper realistic on the PS6, or /v/ might have agreed

>>386427871
It depends on how long the game has been in development. I'm pretty sure the game has been in development before AM2R released, it very well could've just been a coincidence. But I am also unsure if current Nintendo can deliver, that would depend on how much of the Super/Fusion/Zero Mission team is still around, or if they have picked up any new talent that would work well with this style of game. And judging by
MercurySteam's last attempt at a Metroidvania I'm more than a bit worried.

>>386427443
If you read my post before it, >>386425328,
I acknowledge that the Fusion mode is "cut out" of the game. That being said, notice your own words:
>An entire difficulty level featuring the fusion suit, something most people would like to play, is locked behind amiibo.
>An entire difficulty level featuring the fusion suit, something most people would like to play
>something most people would like to play
>would LIKE TO play

People would LIKE it. It isn't NEEDED to play the game though, is it? Further, read how to unlock the fusion mode: from eurogamer, the ones who initially broke the news:
>After completing the game you can also unlock a new difficulty mode, "Fusion", and where Samus' suit from the Metroid Fusion game.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-26-metroid-samus-returns-has-exclusive-content-for-four-amiibo
You have to have already beaten the game to even unlock it. That means that it isn't absolutely necessary to play the game. That does NOT change how fucking shitty it is, though. I agree 100% that I'd rather not have to pay extra for difficulty modes, but I also recognize that they are ultimately a luxury in the same way that hot water is technically a luxury. It's shitty how spartan Nintendo is getting with a game's features lately and by no means am I defending that. It's a garbage business practice and I hate it.

It blows ass, but it's the case in the current market as evidenced by what we see around us, and voting with your wallet only gets you so far when a company is supported by dumb consumers that outnumber smart ones who only shout into an echochamber all day saying EXACTLY THE SAME SHIT FOR 5 YEARS.

B-but Nintendo official seal of quality......

>>386428324
you sure about that?

because i can remember all the other games having a very vibrant, and not a blurry mess of pixles art syle.

see >>386428061

the art syle does not bode well to the resolution they are using, it turns the game into a water color painting where everything is messy and fine details are lost in the sea of vomit.

>>386420304
Why are you shilling so... hard?

>>386420304
Why the fuck is this game not being developed in house?
It's not like Nintendo has that many projects going on currently.

>>386421969
oh my god it totally is

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>>386428497
>B-but Nintendo official seal of quality......
That's what these guys are for.

>>386427237
The constant bloom is repulsive. They're like 10 years behind in aesthetics, just like when WWHD came out after the bloom fad had died down, shit's embarrassing.

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>>386429004
GameCube version looked better desu.

>>386428468
It doesn't matter if it's needed or not, it should still be in the game free of charge. If you want the amiibos to do something, have them unlock stuff early, not be exclusive paywalls.

Just because alot of other greedy conglomerates are doing it does not justify Nintendo doing it. It just means they're also greedy idiots.

>>386428158
>aweful

>>386429071
Not really sure why you are surprised. Nintendo have been on the forefront of the greedy train since the NES days.

>>386427649

1. I alredy know about scalpers and wish I could literally scalp them. And scalpers can only profit off of fads, which by necessity have to be popular. If a fad didn't sell like hotcakes, scalpers couldn't charge an arm and a leg and expect to find a buyer.
2. Almost any company is willing to cut content, and it fucking blows ass. I understand why they don't charge less for the base game despite offering less content to the consumer when the day's done (ultimately from a mostly bloated industry that doesn't know how to fucking budget, but also because many companies are excellent at manipulating consumers into meeting a company's expectations regarding price). That being said, unless you clip coupons, only go for sales and work crazy ass deals, buy years after release, or just pirate, most games cost a lot of cash. You usually gotta pay for shit, like it or not. Doesn't excuse people acting like sacks of shit, though. I've never been a fan of "What are you, a poorfag?" either.
3. Don't go on the slippery slope of "What's the next thing they'll cut, the ending?" People will take you seriously here. Regardless, shitty practices aren't defensible. Nintendo doesn't know better, but I AM saying that the current trend is "the majority of amiibo content so far is inconsequential." That being said, the fusion mode being locked is a great way to get on a lot of peoples' bad sides really fucking quick. It was a horrendous call.

tl;dr: I agree with you, but I'm also not blind to how this shit works. if you want to support the series but not shit amiibo practices, buy the game and not the amiibo and maybe pirate the amiibo or something. I honestly don't give a fuck what you do with what you have:
you can make your own decisions.

>>386429178
>Nintendo have been on the forefront of the greedy train since the Switch days.
PTUFY

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>>386429071
>a company wanting to make more money is being greedy idiots
How fucking DARE my movie Dunkin' Donuts charge me 3 dollars for a bigger cup of coffee just because starbucks can trick people into paying 5 so as to be competitive in pricing while also being seen as the cheaper alternative in order to maximize profits!
While we're at it, they should make it free!
Yes, why should they charge us for things like this when we can simply get it for free, da comrade?

>>386429071
I agree with you there. I prefer early unlocks to exclusively locked content. Maybe we'll end up with a Robobot situation, hopefully. If you're not in the know, all the amiibo locked content in Robobot was reported as amiibo locked, however all of that stuff could be unlocked at the end of the game despite what interviews said. I'm crossing my fingers for this,
personally.

Considering how dialed-in most difficulty modes are, I'm pretty disappointed with all of the, what I'm going to from now on call "amiibullshit," in this game.

>>386429282
Different anon, but if your argument relies on a pathetic and obvious strawman, it's probably not a very good one. Keep sucking corporate cock, I will happily pirate Samus Returns.

>>386429228
Yeah no. They have always been one of the most greedy gaming companies.
>holding third party devs hostage to the point where they forced everyone away with their greedy practices as soon as something better came along
>straight up running an illegal pricing cartel in Europe
>using 5 year old hardware in their consoles while pricing them really high for maximum profit
>Amiibos
>releasing shovelware titles and re-releases full priced
The Switch days is just a continuation of their company policy of being greedy fucks.

>>386429185
1. The problem is that Nintendo is aware of the scalpers, but they refuse to fix the issues that come from them. amiibos and even most of their hardware is in short demand and they refuse to make more. and no, I'm not even referring to the Switch shortage. i'm talking about them willfully not making more NES minis and SNES minis, alongside hundreds of amiibos that are essentially out of print. And they keep doing it after all these years.

2.I wouldn't be so mad at Nintendo if this was true of every single developer in the industry, but even indies understand the importance of keeping an audience happy. Games like Terraria, Hollow Knight, Shovel knight, FTL, and many others release mountains of free DLC because they can. But Nintendo, a multi-billion dollar corporation, needs to charge so much for amiibos and season passes? It comes off as extra scummy.

3.A slippery slope? They already did that with Fire Emblem, where you had to get both games to get the real ending. Shucks, even back in the day you could access the real ending of a linked game if you had the passwords. You didn't need both games, it just made it easier.

>>386429489
>when someone's post triggers a piratefag
If you took something out of my fucking store and I found out about it, I'd fucking shoot you for it. Robbers are scum.

>>386420304

because they hastily put it together after they saw how good am2r was turning out.

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>>386428061
This is what a Nintendo developed Metroid looks like.
>>386420304
This is what an outsourced to a 3rd tier 3rd party developed Metroid looks like.

Why the fuck can't Nintendo just give people proper 2d Metroid developed by them? Great way to treat your intellectual property and fanbase.

>>386429282
>no, of course it's okay for companies to charge me 40 bucks for content that takes literally no money to put in, then yell at them for being entitled if they don't buy it
>customers shouldn't complain or else they should be jailed

t. comcast.

>>386429505
It's almost as if a multi-billion dollar company needs a lot more money and as such seek to get more than an Indie company

>>386420304
People give bloodstained shit but I bet plenty of nintendo fags treat this like a gift from god himself.

>>386420762

played it as a kid. the atmosphere and audio and some of the areas came together to make it pretty scary

>>386429586
>thinking that accusing everyone if being triggered will hide the fact that you're triggered to the point of threatening violence
Sometimes, the best thing about piracy is that it makes losers like you so mad :^)

>>386429621
>government sponsored monopoly as an example
Yeah, nah

>>386429657
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The entire thread has consisted of people saying the game looks like absolute trash, if you're going to bait at least put effort in it.

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>>386420304
>Why does it look so... bad?

Because you should never go 3D graphics for a 2D game.

2.5D is shitty game design and needs to die already.

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ALL OF YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP

I LOVE SAMUS AND I WILL BUY HER GAMES NO MATTER WHAT AND I WILL ENJOY THEM

>>386421002
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>>386420304
Whats with this fucking uppercut bullshit.