Ace Attourney thread

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You know what, no I don't have any objections right now

>>386420247
Why doesn't Capcom give a shit about this franchise or good localization? When The Great Ace Attorney comes out in English in 3 years they will still say it's fucking Los Angeles despite it being feudal Japan
Basically, Danganropa is better.

>>386420247
Just finished the third case in the original, should I play the whole series or does it peak with this game and only go downhill? I'm really enjoying it so far.

>>386421713
The first 3 games are the best in the series. Apollo Justice was okay. AAI 1 & 2 are pretty good. AA5 is stupidly easy and has a shitty plot. The Professor Layton parts in Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney are good.

>>386421713
Play them all and judge yourself, cases aren't too long.

imo not even DD was bad despite most people say this.

>>386421598
Yeah because they totally knew that there were gonna be future games after localizing the first PW game for the DS. Fucking retard
>>386420247
Tfw no more Miles, Frannie, Gumshow and Kay
Time skip was a mistake

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>>386421598
>Still has hope that it's getting a localization
Also DR isn't better because although it has good mysteries, a lot of the mini-games are shit and the overall plot is retarded. ESPECIALLY in NDRV3

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>>386420247
Raising

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Ace Attorney and Danganronpa are both great franchises. Ace Attorney has better story structure, is grounded in a more realistic world, and its plot is usually more consistent and doesn't need filler as much. In contrast, Danganronpa's story structure is considerably more erratic, takes place in a world where teenagers are more or less demigods and many major characters are obsessed with the concepts of "Hope" and "Despair", and its plot is batshit insane.

In terms of gameplay, AA is more of a traditional VN game, primarily text-based with the gameplay consisting of making choices at certain points mixed with click-and-point style gameplay. DR, on the other hand, has a more engaging and fast-pasted style of gameplay that mixes choice selection with arcade-style shooter mechanics, with a variety of different types of minigames in-between that range from fun (swordfight debates and machine-gun talk attacks) to gouge your eyes out frustrating (Go-Hang-Yourself-Man's Gambit)

I will say that Danganronpa is better at creating memorable characters, primarily villains, than Ace Attorney is. Since DR's cast is very small compared to a single AA's cast, they are able to work on developing the characters and fleshing them out. Free-Time Events are the best examples of this, as you can simply talk to the characters themselves and learn more about them. Meanwhile, Ace Attorney is only able to flesh out a handful of main characters thoughtout an entire game, and even then they might not get all the development they need. Apollo is a prime example, as it took 3 games to get all the development that Hajime got in a single game.

They're both good series. Ace Attorney is for people who want to play a story-based game with a lot of critical thinking and has you guessing what will happen next, while Danganronpa is for people who don't give a shit about plot or story and just want to experience a wild fucking ride and connect to the characters better.

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>>386422187
We'll never get a game that combines the good parts of both games

>>386420247

What is the general consensus on each of the games? Im new here.

Im gonna play all of them anyway, im just curious.

Ive beat Dual Destinies and recently just beat the original one. I'm playing through the second game right now, and im not really liking it. I just finished the 3rd case.

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What's your favorite case, /v/?
3-5 for me.

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I've finished the first game and want to watch the anime. Is it good? How many games did it adapt?

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>>386421598
>Danganropa is better.
Not with that story

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Here's an objection. I want Iwadare off AA7.

I'll accept another Apollo game if it means Horiyama heads up composing again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjgbvrYGZyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxFFhUvlRiM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3s1aqSCEd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5wyddM1Dc0

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>>386422782
>Is it good?
We fucking wish.
>How many games did it adapt?
It adapts the first two games with a few changes here and there

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>>386422983

>>386423035
Thanks for that one pic anon, I wanted to take a screencap of that in my run too.

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>>386422782
The only good episode I found worth watching was episode 13 among a few others. It's some decent backstory.

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>>386421598
>Basically, Danganropa is better.
Seek suicide.

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>>386421598
>liking any DR that came out after DR1

I hope next game teams up Nick and Athena more often. They really don't get much play together.

The same goes for Nick and Trucy but Trucy makes for a lousy case assistant.

>>386423776
But 2 is miles better than 1

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>>386423806
Well since Apollo stayed in Khurain chances of that are high. Or they finally make Athena the lead character this time around

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>>386422693
Depends on the game. And just for the sake of it I'm not including final cases.

>AA
It used to be 1-4, but now I love 1-2 simply due to how it fits in perfectly with the presidential election.

>JFA
2-1. It's the only other not shit case in that game.

>T&T
Every case in that game is solid, but 3-2 is my personal favorite from that game. Every new character in that case was likable in some way.

>AJ
4-3. It's become too much of a meme for me for me to not love it.

>AAI1
Case 1. It's a hard choice between that and the second case, but Portsman was much more memorable than Cammie.

>AAI2
It's a tie between Case 3 and 4. There're both too goddamn good. Case 3 did a great job setting everything up, and Gregory is a wonderfully lovable character for the short time he's playable. And Case 4 sets up the stakes perfectly and it just keeps giving you reasons for wanting to take down Blaise.

>DD
DLC Case. It's the perfect mix of serious and stupid, like an episode of Gintama.

>SoJ
6-2. That shit was final case tier. If it weren't for the fact that the final case goes to Danganronpa levels of crazy then it would've easily trumped it.

>>386423892
That's why I'm hopeful that it'll happen. Besides, Nick is supposed to be her teacher and we don't really see much of that in the actual game.

I wouldn't be opposed to an Athena focused game, but I'd rather we get to Wright again before that happens.

>>386423894
I don't get the Justice For All image

Reminder that the JP Judge and the chief justice of England are the final culprits in DGS2

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I just finished Turnabout Academy and honestly it felt like it went just too far that even my suspension of disbelief couldn't remain intact.
Honestly all the cases in Dual Destinies have seemed much sillier than the last 3 games I played.

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>>386423892
That's probably what they're gonna do.

I just wonder if they're gonna introduce another new prosecutor or just have Blackquill fill the role again. More importantly, will they bring back Winston, Gaspin, or bring in Winston's daughter Yura Payne?

>>386424071
Do it because I told you to.

>>386422693
2-4, sadly nothing still tops it.
3-5 was great, but nothing builds more tension and deep moral choices than 2-4.


Talking about the moral questions... the concept of "Hope" that was considered the ultimate good in DR 1 was questioned in DR 2 and 3, why can't we have a similar thing with "truth"?
They could make cases where the truth completely breaks people to put the MC in a moral drama and see the dark side of what's considered the ultimate good in AA.

>>386424261
I think turnabout Academy was mostly fine even if the twist about Hugh was dumb. At least the murder was interesting and the characters were okay.
After the bullshit that was the case in Nine-tails vale going to the academy felt like a breath of fresh air.

The best part of DD is the DLC case anyways.


>Honestly all the cases in Dual Destinies have seemed much sillier than the last 3 games I played
Still not as silly as ghosts and spirit mediums being accepted into the court of law.

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>>386422782
Well if you want to see him do some airbending like in pic related give it a try

>>386423892
>Game wtih Athena as the lead

I might be able to tolerate that if AND ONLY IF:
>Weebquill is her assistant and they aren't afraid to have him go full edgey otaku with more cultural shenanignas like in 6-4
>There's cases with Apollo and Rayfa shenanigans in Khurain

>>386422782
No, it's shit. Don't even bother with it. Just keeps playing the games. And PLEASE don't play the 3ds or smartphone versions because the artwork looks like ass.

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>Franzy is never coming back

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>Apollo out in front
>Phoenix's back to the viewer

What did they mean by this?

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>>386424264
>Yura wears reflective reading glasses
>her defeated animation has the slip off and reveal her eyes are just tiny dots
>Athena and her become friends and break the 1000 years of one-sided hatred created by Taketsuchi "Most Dishonorable Cuckold" Auchi

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>>386424629
>Hugh is a fucking 25 year old highschooler
Did they ever mention why Why he took a 7 year break?

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>>386423894

>PL vs AA

holy shit i'm fucking dying

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>>386420247
Okay, give me your honest to goodness opinions on Spirit of justice. Was it good or not?

>>386420247
So, I completed the original trilogy (AA, JFA and T&T)

What should I play next?

>>386420247
I just finished the first game, are the other ones just as good?

>>386425329
its not that he took a seven year break, its that he failed 7 times.

>>386425612
Some are even better.

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>>386425572
Better than DD. So yes

>>386425598
Apollo Justice is next

>>386425612
Hell yeah they are

>>386421713
The thing about Ace Attorney games is that you can't rank the games easily, each case is its own world and loving or hating them will vary from person to person, a game people claim to be bad might still have cases you love and vice versa

>>386425572
ayyy Trucy got a funny expression on her face there. Bet they fucked like rabbits too.

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>>386425651
Jesus Christ, I didn't realize that he was lying about that too

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>>386425612
Trilogy + Investigation games are the best of the bunch

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>>386425801
It wouldn't surprise me that a talentless cunt like her would be into incest.

>>386423894
>Portsman was much more memorable than Cammie
I can think about two big reasons why Cammie was more memorable

>>386424856
>legacy character who was supposed to replace the main character
>main character is so fucking popular they are forced to bring him back to the spotlight
Ace Attorney is the best DBZ game

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>>386425572
I loved it. 3rd best in the series for me. 6-2 was fun as hell

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How would you rank the Maya counterparts?

Season 2 when?

>>386423836
1 was shit with its retarded games and piss easy cases, 2 just went full retard. i absolutely regret buying them

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>>386426224

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>>386426394
>tfw have a sleep rape fetish
I couldn't even pay attention to the rest of the case

>>386426364
Pearls > Ema > Athena > Kay > Rayfa > Maya > Trucy > Franziska

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>>386426364
Kay > Maya > Ema > Trucy >>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Athena

>>386426364

Kay is shit, plain and simple. Her every line is either "muh thievery" or "muh Yatagarasu". If not for Little Thief, she'd be completely useless.

>when she starts referring to Edgeworth's logic as his superpower

Fucking kill me

>>386426569
To be fair in their world having common fucking sense could be considered a super power

>>386426538
This looks about right.

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>>386424648
>There's cases with Apollo and Rayfa shenanigans in Khurain
This is the one thing I am hoping for in the future, along with Armie being a defendant

>>386424815
If she did she would probably whip Apollo the moment she opens his mouth, possibly whip Athena, get along with Trucy, whip Gumshoe if he comes back as well, and job to Phoenix once again.

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>>386426565
Maya is cute! C-U-T-E!

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>>386426785
This is a burger-chan thread now.

>>386426394
Would impregnate and lovingly cuddle using her breasts as a pillow.

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>>386426569
>>386426652
Edgeworth does have a superpower though.
>That fucking chess dimension where he can freely pull his victims in without fail

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>>386426538
>playing JFA for the first time
>get to the case where Pearls is introduce
>"Oh great, another kawai uguu comic relief loli"
>my fucking face by the end of the game
Pearls is precious

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>>386426858
I have no objections to that.

REMOVE PROSECUTORS THEY ARE SCUM AND MUST DIE

>>386426960

Fuck off chink

>>386426896
Pearls is what the other assistants should strive to be.

She's helpful, non intrusive, and gets shit done. She's good company unlike some of the others.

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>>386426960

>>386426998
I have a sweet soft for Maya because of her bants
>that case where they investigate Blue Screens Inc.
>the google 10 chick who acts like a robot
>mentions something about machines getting angry or something
>"you heard her Nick, she is going to get angry"
That was a while ago but I remember losing my fucking shit

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>>386425921
>lumping AAI, the worst AA game, with Trilogy and AAI2

Fuck off.

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>>386427212

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Why is Attorney Online such a meme?

>>386427181
>the worst AA game

That title belongs to Apollo's game

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>>386427242

>>386427257
Because the only thing people want to do in that game is roleplay as their waifu.

>>386427268
>AAIfag defending his turd boring game
No one, absolutely NO one gives two fucks about AAI snorefest story.

AA4 had a much better story, and better case quality overall. Nothing was as bad as the kidnapped turnabout. And 4-1 was better than anything in AA4. Hell, AA4 isn't even the worst mainline (that goes to DD)

>>386427268
>having such shit taste
How do you even breathe?

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>>386427359
But AAI has Cammy. What do you have to say to that?

>>386421598
You mean Feudal Los Angeles

>>386427359
>better case quality overall
I'm not sure if this is really true, Polly. Maybe we should watch the tape again and find out.

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desu I don't even remember what AAI was about

something something smuggling shit
it was forgettable as hell and hated the last case dragging on forever

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How did it turn so good after a very weak first game?

>>386427359
>Nothing was as bad as the kidnapped turnabout.
No FUCK YOU. You cannot say that any of Investigation's cases were worse than fucking Turnabout Serenade. Kidnapped Turnabout is definitely shit I'll give you that, but the main problem of that case comes mostly from its atrocious pacing and bad villain. Turnabout Serenade does nothing right and is painful to play because of how fucking asinine the whole thing is. I would say it's easily worse than Turnabout Big Top.

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>>386427527
Case 4 was pretty good, and seeing loli Franny interact with Edgeworth was precious.

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>>386427530
>much more compelling characters
>an actual interesting overarching story
>lots of development for Edgeworth, Lang, Kay and Gumshoe they didn't have in the first game
>every case ranges from great to good, nothing is mediocre or bad
I don't know how you go from the worst game in the franchise to the best just like that.

>>386427359
>AA4 had a much better story, and better case quality overall.
>Nothing was as bad as the kidnapped turnabout.

Except the two middle cases are easily worse. Dull characters, contrived situations, 4-3 absolutely fucking dragged on for no particular reason (granted last case in AAI is guilty of that too. Kidnapped is bad because the villain is hella obvious and not particularly fun to watch, but AA4 villains are mostly the same. I'd also say that AAI had a better supporting cast of characters overall, where AA4 had only bro-tier Gavin

>And 4-1 was better than anything in AA4.

Yes I do enjoy a case where an irrelevant character turns out to be a bad guy and it's supposed to be a big reveal but you couldn't give less of a fuck because it's the first case.

>>386427359
I can't remember a single thing about The Kidnapped Turnabout. I don't even remember the victim or how he was killed.

>>386427530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr9AVYDEeMQ

The game has the best pursuit theme in the series by far.

>>386427530
Had actual themes for one instead of being some generic safe plot about stopping some gang of evil bad guys that do bad things.

fuck you both, you know which game is the actual worse? Dai Gyakuten Saiben

the graphics, music, and animations are all top tier, the new gameplay features are great. sadly we have an awful VN story where you spend the first three cases losing every episode because of technicality.

>>386427797
>Yes I do enjoy a case where an irrelevant character turns out to be a bad guy and it's supposed to be a big reveal but you couldn't give less of a fuck because it's the first case.
Oh but it's okay when 3-1 does it, huh?
And get the fuck out. Turnabout Corner is a very solid case. Much better than bland, boring shit like the first 3 cases in AAI.
And AA4 final case >>> AAI final case.
Hell Kristoph is a much better villain than old embassy dude.

>>386427797
>Yes I do enjoy a case where an irrelevant character turns out to be a bad guy and it's supposed to be a big reveal but you couldn't give less of a fuck because it's the first case.
>irrelevant character
>was literally the Mia Fey to Apollo Justice

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What are your thoughts on Takeshi Yamazaki's writing ability compared to Shu Takumi? Do you think the torch was successfully passed down?

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>>386427853
>build Asougi up as Mia 2.0
>kill him off in the stupidest, most embarrassing way possible
>killer gets off scott free because they didn't mean to

That second case pissed me off badly. Thank god Holmes was there to salvage what little good there was in that case.

>>386427958
SoJ and AAI2 are fantastic, but the other two are weak. I feel like he needs to take more risks in general.

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>>386427958
Yamazaki's problem is that he just loves his EPIC UPPING THE STAKES shit every game.

Getting pretty fucking sick of COURTROOM REVOLUSHON and HOLY FUCK THIS IS A VERY SUPER DUPER IMPORTANT trial

SoJ was really lackluster because of this. I prefer when he works on self-contained stuff like 6-2 or the 5-DLC, which are widely regarded as fantastic cases.

And yeah, that means I didn't like 5-5 or 6-5 because it was a lot of EPICCCC bullshit.

Has anyone played the original trilogy in Japanese? I'm learning the language and was wondering how hard it is.

>>386427958
Was post time skip Wright as good as people say? Was he really fucking pissed?

>>386428082
You need to know many legal terms in Kanji and shit. I'm around N5 level and can't understand jackshit.

>>386427958
considering takumi has proven he can't right plot pacing or make satisfying conclusions with Dai Gyakuten Saiban and PL vs AA, i think its been passed down pretty well.

>>386427996
i wouldn't compair this to the original game so much if it wasn't the first game of a planned trilogy or so

>>386428059
i agree

>>386428074
this i agree with, but i'd rather have this then retreading older ace attorney tropes and failing at it, like in DaiGyakutenSaiban.

>>386426876
God I wish I was Larry here.

>>386427803
I remembered the Reminisce theme at least, it's pretty good imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj2tTw3Vky8

The rest of the case was unmemorable and a huge snorefest.

>>386428103
He was a laidback smug dad, pretty much exactly what his design implied.

>>386427996
Thanks for the spoilers.

>>386427875
>Oh but it's okay when 3-1 does it, huh?

3-1 didn't go setting up Dahlia as your mentor and support tho.

>Turnabout Corner is a very solid case

Pfft, yeah, right. How can you say that shit with a straight face and then go deride AAI cases? Corner is easily tied with Kidnapped for the dullest villain.

>>386427938

And you're supposed to give a fuck why exactly? You've barely interacted with the guy and Apollo himself, and then he turns out to be a bad guy 'cause reasons.

>>386428326
>And you're supposed to give a fuck why exactly?
Because it's a interesting twist? Usually most players would expect the first case to be some generic tutorial case where everything goes along smoothly and the killer is super obvious. Then when a bombshell is dropped on you it helps set up a tone for the whole game. Unfortunately the main flaw is that the rest of the game doesn't actually follow through with it.

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Post yfw the last piece of evidence embodied all 5 cases and the theme of the game.

>>386428603
What was the last evidence in aai2 again? I forgot.

>>386427875
>And get the fuck out. Turnabout Corner is a very solid case.
I wouldn't mind it if it wasn't for that fucking stupid plot point about the safe. I mean are you telling me the police can't open a fucking safe?

>>386428470
>the face in the background armor
what did they mean by this?

>>386428669
the yellow flowers that represented the bond between a parent and child
it's the whole theme of AAI2

>>386422693
1-4. I cried. Three times.

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>about to prove a man innocent of all his crimes
>kills self

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>>386428326
>> Pfft, yeah, right. How can you say that shit with a straight face and then go deride AAI cases? Corner is easily tied with Kidnapped for the dullest villain.

i actually forgot who the villian was of Corner because she's generic as fuck, Kidnapped atleast has a fatass with huge ears in handcuffs, thats abit more rememberable

>>386428703
its less that and more of the bullet being stuck in the safe, in real life that bullet would've bounced around in that safe and shot out into a wall or something.

>>386421713
Keep playing them and don't listen to people who are blinded by nostalgia, Apollo Justice was an interesting change and Spirit of Justice is the strongest game in the franchise right now after Trials and Tribulations. Layton VS Phoenix isn't too bad either, and although I haven't played it yet, Investigations 2 is a fan favourite as well.

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>>386428904
>son is about to ruin your murder plot
>disown him and drive him to tears

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>>386428721
Holy hell, I never noticed it! Maybe de Killer in disguise?

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Why is the art for side material always so good?

>>386428981
At least I remember's Alita's motives.
What was the fatass' motive?
>dude fake kidnapping to get money from my dad lmao
Like a straight up 3-4 rehash

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>>386428603
>tfw the entire theme of AAI2 didn't land home because no parents
it's an abstract kind of feel

>>386429128
i got too mad at the safe and the panty's in the pipe thing to remember everything else.

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>>386429127
And Investigations just for good measure.

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>>386429032
>contest partner threatens your reputation and livelihood over your petty rivalry
>bash him over the head with a block of salt
>find out his son kidnapped your own son
>disregard him and move to a foreign country to perfect your craft

AAI2 has some of the worst fathers in fiction I've ever seen. It says something that these people make von Karma look like a decent person.

>>386429127
What is Franziska's fucking problem?

>>386429265
Daddy issues and playing too much Castlevania

>>386429419
I wish I could play Castlevania games with her.

>>386429454
What if she started beating you with the NES controller like she does with a whip?

>>386429497
It would be extremely painful

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>>386429497
It would be significantly more painful. But worth it.

>>386429531
You're a big guy.

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>>386429609
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>>386429587
What if Bane was Franziska's bf?

>>386429798
I like to imagine that Fran has a crush on big guys, its why she likes to push Dick around so much

>its a "Edgeworth only presents the autopsy after the first objection" case

>>386429842
We ALL know Franziska just wants a man to push her around, forcefully steal her whip, and beat her with it.

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>>386429842
>she likes to push Dick

>>386429998
I hate the Mia ex machinas so much, why couldn't she just stay dead with Maya using her powers to communicate with the victims?

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>>386429998
>those long pauses
J U S T