>Switch is going to get great onli-

>>386413806
no one thought this

I like the Jet Squelcher
I think I'm gonna main this until the Squiffer and Bamboozler come out

Don't have a Switch yet, what's so bad about it?

Wait what's wrong with it.

Haven't run into anything, even during splatfest.

>>386413806

I haven't had a massive problem so far

>>386416078

Some issues with matchmaking, and disconnects like most other multiplayer shooters. Not defending it, just saying it's normal.

>>386416078
People blame Nintendo for their shit internet.

>>386416078
WiFi card is trash
Need a LAN adapter if you want to stay connected consistently

this is bullshit, ketchup is clearly superior

>>386416218
no you dont you just need to not live in the 3rd world

>>386416483
I live in the third world and it works just fine, what he needs to so is not to cheap out on his internet.

Marina is way cuter

>>386413806
>12.5Hz tickrate
This shit is unacceptable.
And Nintendo thinks that we should pay them for this shitty server next year??

Can't remember how many trade kills I got because of this shitty tickrate.

>>386413806
I've had literally zero issues with my wifi, you must have shit internet.

I do however have a huge problem with the garbage voice chat system, you can't even fucking match-make with friends and talk. Fuck this shit. It's only good for Salmon Run.

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>>386413806
Splatoon 2 is lots of fun and the servers have worked great.
But the fact that you need a phone app for it and content is locked during certain times of day is still retarded.
It is always one step forward and two steps back for Nintendo but fuck me I will still buy their gimmicky shit because they make fun games.

>>386416402
ketchup is just gay bbq sauce

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>switch can hold a wifi connection with shitting itself
>its right next to my WiiU which i never had a problem with for online
>both consoles are less than 2 feet away from the router

Carbon Roller is really fun
How do I get good with it?

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>>386419293

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>>386415995
People with shit internet blame anything but themselves, even with my spic connection I have had only 2 disconnects in two weeks. one was my provider's fault.

>>386419924
I fucked up, wanted to reply to >>386416078

>>386419510
Like he said, you don't charge head first with it unless it is for a specific strategy or major hole in their plan.

Rollers have been nerfed.

But I'm still going to play it.

>>386413806
>>386416078
15 hz tickrate.

It's absolutely ridiculous. Literally third world. From the 80s.

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>>386419293
As a rule of thumb, you should almost never try to engage someone if they see you before you see them. Carbon roller is best at ambushing, especially after the nerfs to both rollers and the carbon in this game.

You should focus on either flanking opponents or ambushing them. Never be in a place the enemy can predict you.

If you've been spotted or need to draw enemy attention, that's what autobombs are for. Your special is particularly good for either territory control (splat zones) or setting up a big push (rainmaker, tower control).

Have fun, anon. It's still a fun weapon, even if the sweet spot for the carbon was reduced so much that getting OHKOs is a bitch now.

>>386420654
Why did they do it? Splat1 was 25hz. It's a direct downgrade when even the first had lag issues.

>>386420654
Shouldn't you be sucking off your favorite twitch streamer?

>>386420848
To be honest I thought Carbon was just always a 2hko until I played around with it a bit more

>>386416078
low tickrate, P2P connections (which well be paying for soon), disconnects and latency.

also the app

Is this worth buying a Switch for if I already own BotW on Wii U? Just got $400 for my Birthday the other day and I'm considering it. Also want Mario in a couple months, but that's basically all that is even out this year.

>>386420654
That's a problem with the game and not the Switch's online tho.

>>386421582
Splatoon 2 by itself makes it worth it IMO

>>386421582
You'd be getting it for only one game then. Do you consider Splatoon to be worth $400?

>>386421582
I liked Fate/Extella since I'm a fatefag and a musoufag

>>386421759
Alone, perhaps not, although I enjoyed the first one and this looks improved from it. But again, I'm going to want Mario in October. And maybe Fire Emblem Warriors and Mario+Rabbids as well. And next year will potentially have Pokemon and Metroid Prime 4. So I'm looking at it as a bit of an investment in the future.

Reminder that if you lose in ranked it's your fault
If you were truly A or S level you can carry a tram of C and B shitters

>>386421435
>low tickrate, P2P connections (which well be paying for soon), disconnects and latency
So average console stuff.

>>386416078
P2P matchmaking (sometimes you'll get "The other console is not responding" message when trying to find a lobby), 16Hz tick rate, shit voice chat. Those are three biggest issues.
Other than that, people blame the game for their shit connection, I have 100 hours played and so far got disconnected only once (which was my fault, moving out of LTE range).

With that tick rate and p2p it's clearly not a good competitive game, but it's still fun to casually splat every now and then.

>>386419924
This. Only disconnects I got were my own fault, watching a video while waiting for the match to start without thinking about it. I have a shit connection that can only handle one online activity at a time

>expecting good online from nintendo ever
>can't even do voice chat
>still have to do friend codes

keep buying goy

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https://strawpoll.com/wwc86f4s

Interested to know what most of y'all are using

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>>386425349
>No hero replica weapons

>>386424034
Most sensible coment around here.

Surely you'd expect better for paid online services, but there's probably a limit to how you can defend or condem the game based on these facts.

>>386426405
I didn't find it necessary to list them since they're just reskins, sorry friend

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>>386425349
Wow! Are chargers that umpopular?
I'm not even a sniperfag generaly, but those weapons are very fun to use.
Well, most of the time...

>>386416078
They lost a splatfest.
Hillbillies don't want to accept 99% of the USA internet quality hasn't improved since 1998.

>>386416078
its not really bad, but its like another wii u almost exactly.
also everyone is on wireless because wired requires a separate adapter.

>>386425349
Is the zap really that good?

>>386423486
It's not okay when nintendo does it!

>>386427701
It's just a fun and balanced weapon. It's not actually that great in many aspects, but it does the job.

>>386413806
once they announced the pay to play and the cellphone app voice chat I decided not to get any online games for switch. PC is best for online since it's free and you can use a great variety of input devices depending on the game. the main strength of the switch is single-player games anyway, and I seriously hope it stays that way.

I've been hovering my mouse over the buybutton for a Nswitch wild+kart combo for a week.

Should I buy it?

>>386430375
That's the stupidest use for inkjet I've seen.

>>386424034
I call bullshit considering a ton matches have disconnects, whether it's you or someone else. I never had disconnect problems with Splatoon. Generally I'm fine, but if I'm playing Splatoon 2 at the wrong time, I might be disconnected from a third of my matches.

>>386413806
It's tolerable, albeit still aggravating for a free service.
But Nintendo can fuck right off if they think I'm paying for this shit.

>>386416078
Peer to peer, plethora of disconnects, long ass wait times, jap bullshit lag is still present and noticeable despite no longer being able to fight japs

>>386416210
Take Nintendo's dick out of your ass

>>386420654
ok big boy,proves with recording that it actually impact the game.

>>386417683
>servers
lol

>>386418031
This. The switch's online has been worse than the wii u's in every single way thus far.

>>386419510
Rollers have some somewhat severe problems now. You basically just cannot use them for anything other than ambush. Even then, if you clip the edge of their camera, they can turn and kill you with ease.

The weirdest thing about them is that they're supposed to be coverage weapons, but they're actually pretty bad at it because of their severe ink consumption. You can make literally double the XP just using an Aerospray.

>>386431006
Do you know how you get double KO's happening all the damn time? That's the low tickrate's fault.

>>386419924
My internet is fine. Your blind if you can't notice everyone else having constant disconnects in their matches. It's not just about personally being disconnected. This almost never happened on the Wii U and we were playing peer to peer with a load of Japs halfway across the planet.

>>386420654
I thought that was only for the Testfire, I heard they increased it

>>386431424
>I heard they increased it
From whom? Because there's no indication or valid source that I can find that says they have.

>>386431006
Watch some youtube videos and pause on moments where the player gets killed. A lot of the times you'll see their opponent not even aiming in the right place. This is especially noticeable with chargers. Or you know how you can swim through the rainmaker, but not pick it up until several seconds later? Or how you can splat someone, but it sometimes won't say they've been splatted for a second or two?
This shit might not matter or be noticeable to people who are happy playing in turf war or low rank, but its obvious to anyone competitive in S/S+.

>>386431360
Just saying, I find it weird that even my internet connection it's unstable on most of my devices I have yet to have any problems with both arms and splatoon.
Besides my anectodal experience (with a pic to prove it) it's as valid as everyone anecdotal evidence.
>this almost never happened on the wii u
Lmao, people complained as much if not more with splatoon 1 a few years ago.

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QUICKLY!! POST YOUR SQUID KID WITH THEIR FAVOURITE WEAPON.

>>386413806
-ne

>>386416483

3rd world countries have better internet than most major cities in the U.S

>HAHA MEME ARROWS IMPLYING BURGER LAND ISN'T THIRD WORLD XD! PUT ME IN THE SCREEN CAP!

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>start playing splatoon 2 for the first time
>level up a bit
>become autistically hooked on the splat charger
>Almost all games are 0 kills lowest inkage
>Practice with it daily
>improve to about 5 kills on average and 2nd or 3rd inkage
>unlock E-Liter
>get a hard on for this weapon
>I love it's looks, it's sub and special and it has the highest range
>play a match with it
>0 kills lowest inkage
>back to fucking square 1
>go through an existential crisis
>decide to just bite the bullet and get fucking good
>practice daily
>destroyed ketchumps during SPLATFEST with my Mayo King powers
>tfw on average I get a about 10 kills and 1st or 2nd highest inkage
>tfw practice made a noteable difference in my gameplay for once
>tfw this starts happening

Well lads. I'm on my way to becoming a God Teir E-Liter.

I think I might be turning Japanese. But regardless, I'll remember you all when I'm famous.

>>386432207
Have you or have you not seen a load of people disconnect? If you've been playing for a reasonable amount of time and are mildly observant, there's no way you haven't. My internet isn't unstable, and I have a strong connection, yet I can completely randomly succumb to disconnects. At certain times it's almost impossible to play because it'll disconnect me from every other match. It doesn't happen for very long, but it can happen.

They complained about different things, mostly japs and horrible ping times because matches weren't region restricted. Disconnects were never anywhere near as common as this. Some of the lag was admittedly weirder initially, but that was chalked up to being able to play with people from all over the world.

>>386432776
>>386432370
great blog you fucking faggot

>>386432776
Get your shit together, Mac.

>>386432776
>turf wars
>C rank
You can do it anon, but you have a while to go yet.

>>386432923
I have seen some people DC every now and then, but not as some make it out to be, like what? Maybe 4 out of 30 ranked matches tops? 3 people out of 30 salmon run matches too? How do I know if some of them DCing just to not lose the ranked match?
Ironically in the first game the moments I had more problems was when there was a splatfest going with the regional matchmaking, so there is that.

>>386433380
>DCing just to not lose the ranked match?
They lose the ranked match regardless. A disconnect is an automatic mark down intentional or not.

>>386433380
I'd say it's closer to 1 out of 5 in my experience. Salmon Run seemed particularly bad, but I haven't played that in a while and it's certainly more noticeable when people go missing. Unlike in the first game where disconnects mostly happened at the start of matches, in this one, it's almost always right in the middle of it.

>How do I know if some of them DCing just to not lose the ranked match?
Because they're instantly penalized for it as if they had lost and risk being banned.

That is true, honestly. I don't know why that is. It's when most of the weirder lag happened.

>>386434046
Sucks that the game will still penalize the team with the d/c in ranked unless it happens at the start of the match.

>>386434249
Sucks that the game still doesn't allow you to reconnect after Splatoon 1 had the same issue. I really don't get why Nintendo can't get this right, is it not possible in p2p? DCing while have the enemy in danger with a minute to go and then getting a warning about how the leave is suspicious really grinds my gear.

>>386416078
Basically
>Horrendous wi-fi performance
>Using the chat app to communicate is a shitshow
>The retarded time schedule system is back and even fucking worse
>Still no fixing the bullshit design of not letting you switch weapons while in a lobby
They refused to fix their shitty online systems and are now gonna charge for them

>>386434378
Yeah, that "PREEEETTY suspicious" warning message about being banned is like a slap in the face. Especially after being kicked when you were close to winning.
In Splatoon, there were times you could come back from an "unstable connection" if you stopped everything, but in this one everyone just immediately poofs with no warning and you have to muck about for a bit until the game officially disconnects you.

>>386434702
>Still no fixing the bullshit design of not letting you switch weapons while in a lobby
This really gets to me. I cannot fathom why they did this again. It's especially bad now because the wait is so much longer due to matches being regional.

>>386430712
I shit you not, I only had 1 disconnect over the course of 100 hours. I was on a train, playing on LTE (mobile hotspot from my phone) and the train moved out of LTE range, connection dropped to HSPA+ and I was disconnected. Generally not a great idea to play on mobile data while in a moving vehicle.
I also had several times people disconnect on me (as in a team member disconnecting during match) but nothing too common. I guess there were also several instances where I couldn't get to a lobby with message that "Connection to remote console was lost" but that's even before the game starts and I blame this on the other persons connection.

I play in EU region, I use both LTE and fiber (when I'm at home) and never had any bigger problems with connection.

>>386434858
I never get out of range disconnects and have above average internet, but I get "unstable connection" errors fairly frequently, and notice other people vanishing in matches. EU and Japan are probably a bit better considering their internet isn't a complete shitshow like NA, but I hesitate to blame it all on that because Nintendo is by far the worst when it comes to my online experiences.

>>386435065
The problem here is that because it's P2P then BOTH sides must have good connection. I had one situation where 6 people were disconnected the moment the game started because the host had shit connection.
So, some of the disconnect instances may not be because of your connection but because the host has shitty one.

And yeah, as you said, EU and Japan has better infrastructure, so smaller chance of disconnects because of shitty host.

>>386416078
The system, at least in Splatoon, is a bit weird in that it tries really hard to find you a local match, and if it can't, it pauses for 30 seconds or so before loading you up with Japs

>>386420865
They did it so the packets would be smaller and you could play it tethered to a phone

>>386431424
They increased from 12.5 to 16

>>386435434
Not true with Splatoon 2. All matches are regional now, no exceptions. If they can't find a match, they kick everyone out of the lobby. It's common to be kicked and wait for a couple minutes for matches to start.

I never thought I'd miss instant matches from japs.

>>386435536
Factually unproven just by playing turf war.


>It's common to be kicked and wait for a couple minutes for matches to start.
Untrue

>>386435536
How the fuck do I keep getting matches with yanks n japs then

Post proof or fuck off

>>386435654
Bro, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Just because you see japanese characters in people's names, doesn't mean they're from japan.

>>386413806
SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THE NINTENDO SERVERS????

since today in every single fucking match there is like at least one person who drops out. so its ALWAYS 4 vs 3 or 4 vs 2
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>386435719
Post proof of only regional matchmaking occurring

>>386435750
>SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THE NINTENDO SERVERS????
They don't exist, that's what's going on.

>>386434702
>The retarded time schedule system is back and even fucking worse
What?

>>386435939
In Splatoon 1, maps/modes were only available at certain times on rotation, even though people didn't like the system, Nintendo brought it back in 2 but added the bullshit of making it so the new Salmon Run mode could only be played at certain times of the day

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>>386417783
>bloodborne
why not write ugly fat disgustig 200kg shitbag? would be the same?
oh yeah right, it´s shorter

>>386435752
Did you play the first splatoon?
Have you not played this game long enough to run into lobbies that time out or nobody else shows up?
Just because there's some guy with a name like ファゴット doesn't mean they're japanese.

>>386436056
Do you have proof from a reputable source or not?

>>386435861
top kek
but yesterday it was more or less fine. except the fact dat if I killed someone 2 seconds after I also died thx to the awesome tickrate

>>386436056
>Just because there's some guy with a name like ファゴット doesn't mean they're japanese.
The same could be said about the first game then you stupid fuck

>>386436005
they cut the rotation length for maps and modes to two hours, it's a fucking non-issue

>added the bullshit of making it so the new Salmon Run mode could only be played at certain times of the day
The mode has two goddamn maps, if it was up every single hour of every single day I would have dropped it by now.

>>386436128
Yes, because everyone else you were playing with used japanese names exclusively except you, you dumbass.

>>386436182
Christ you're dense. Do you have proof of your claim or not?

Don't worry guys Nintendo will fix it with a patch

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>throw curling bomb into enemy territory
>swim in the trail
>splat them close-range from behind

>>386436227
The proof is in the experience. Unless you're constantly finding instant matches with an assload of japs, it doesn't matter one bit whether a source can be found or not. It won't change the fact that lobbies are constantly timing out and take forever now compared with the original. Quit being an asshat.

>>386436162
>every two hours
>non issue

Not everyone has eight hours a day to play Splatoon

>>386436447
So no source and your experience matters more than mine...? Fucking idiot.

>>386436730
If you got your head out of your ass, you'd realize you're getting the same experience. But keep sucking that Nintendo dick mate.

>>386436447
Don't forget playing with the same people over and over again, especially in ranked.

>>386436797
No source, anecdotal evidence, AND console warring faggotry? Must be getting trolled

>>386416078
Many basic online features forced onto the shitty phone app(lobby making, voice chat, etc.) >if you make a party group, it HAS to be 4 players or you don't get to make the party. >Voice is done through the phone, which means you can't listen to the game and voice through the same headset, unless you do a fucking retarded audio splitting system.
>still no dedicated servers
Even if it's only 20 dollars a year, it's still absolutely embarrassing that we will have to pay for this soon.

>>386436162
>pointless 2 hour wait time in order to play one of the few modes the game offers
>entire bread and butter of the game revolves around the online play
>non-issue
Yeah, nah.

>>386432678
>3rd world countries have better internet than most major cities in the U.S
straight out lie fucker

>>386437275
Keep being overly defensive and delusional, it won't change the wait times, timeouts, or how matchmaking works this time around.

>>386413806
In 50 hours ive had maybe 10 disconnects. Get better internet.

>>386437280
I wish more people would be critical of what Nintendo's doing. Instead they rush to defend them over every goddamn thing. If people mindlessly consume and hand over their money to whatever shit Nintendo throws out, then that's exactly what Nintendo will give them. Why do better when people are going to pay for their garbage online service anyway? And defend it on top of that! They don't even have to spend money setting up dedicated servers and can make money off of free shitty peer to peer connections and their fans are still happy! It's a win win win!

>>386437535
That's not how it works, Jim. Tell Nintendo to stop using shitty p2p.

>>386416078
Those who picked ketchup lost the splatfest in every region and they're now crying

>>386436469
>>386437349

>WAHHHHH MOMMY MEAN NINTENDO DOESN'T LET ME DO WHATEVER I WANT WAHHHHHHH

Is any of the rifle weapons (the charging ones) usable in online matches? I love that kind of stuff and had ton of fun using it in single player but I'm afraid it's not going to be really good vs real players.

>>386416147
This and I live in the fucking forest. What's OP's excuse?

>>386437428
You still haven't proven your claims. I don't have those issues, fortunately

>>386438306
Is it not in your best interest to want Nintendo to do better? I don't understand you people.

>>386438419
I fail to see how having everything available at all times constitutes as "better"

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>>386437382
>literally worse than gypsyland
LMAO

>>386438354
Unless you live in Japan or play nothing but turf wars or low rank, yes you do.
Honestly, I'm worried what matchmaking will look like a month or two from now.

>>386438494
No, I really don't

>>386429236
Yes you should

>>386438478
>I fail to see how the option to play one of only 4 online modes any time I want is better and would prefer to be forced to play modes I'm not in the mood for or wait 2 hours (or days in the case of salmon run)
ftfy

>>386436447
Going to back that anon up. Only faced one player with Japanese name in turf matches but he turned out to be a UK weeb.

>>386438578
It's more convenient, but the way Splatoon does things is fresh so, again, don't see how it's better

>>386438639
>it's more convenient
I can't even argue with this, good god

>>386438803
that's because I was agreeing with you there, retard.

It'd be a lot more tolerable if they just added a third map to the rotation like they did during splatfest. Just two maps per two hours gets stale quickly. I actually don't mind that Salmon Run is locked down every once in a while, but some of the times are mind boggling. Not having Salmon Run available on a Sunday sucks ass.

>>386438934
>more convenient
>but isn't better
Maybe it's because you're confusing and contradicting yourself

>>386439083
because it would be boring otherwise. Just enjoy it it's a video game! :)

>>386438936
I thought a third map would be guaranteed in Splatoon 2. Hell, I thought a third map would be guaranteed by the final update in Splatoon 1.
Never thought they'd repeat so many of the aggravating decisions they made in the first game.

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>>386416078
....really?
CYou said "yet" implying that you're interested in getting one, so why are you living under a rock and doing ZERO research?

>>386439894
Sorry brah, there's only so many clothing sets right now. Can't wait for brand DLC.

>>386439926
lol noone cares about splatoon voice chat

>>386439926
Discord/Skype/Teamspeak skips that horseshit entirely. If you make a friend on Splatoon you want to talk to...Oh who am I kidding, /v/ doesn't make friends on video games.

>>386440063
no one cares about voice chat gerenal, at least not native.
most people use 3rd party programs, dont eat process or bandwidth from within the games. easier to set up with friends etc etc etc

>>386440063
I can see why. I wouldn't bother either if I had to go through all of that bullshit in order to use it.
In fact you can predict that no one will care about ANY Switch game's voice chat, because they'll be just as bad as Splatoon2's

Also voice chat isn't the only problem with Splat2, the map and mode rotations, barebones content and lack of quality of life changes (like swithing weapons or consistently playing with friends) make for a very mediocre game. But I'm sure 20 other people already pointed out those flaws and many more.

>>386440186
Thanks for admiting that Switch's solution is so unbelievably shit and impractical that no one would use it. Somehow it's worse than 2 gens ago. I guess you agree with my point.

>>386440205
Humm.. you NEVER touched a 360, PS4 or Xbone in your life, right? Those words are very obviously coming from someone who only ever owned Nintendo systems (which has no usable voice chat) and PC (which of course uses those programs).
On good consoles people DO use the provided party chat function. There's no reason whatsoever to use Discord or Skype on your PC/Phone while playing on PS4/Xbone (I'm sure this is mindblowing for you, since you are talking out of your ass and had no idea).
Damn, I can't imagine being as out of touch and clueless as you are

>>386440524
>On good consoles people DO use the provided party chat function. There's no reason whatsoever to use Discord or Skype on your PC/Phone while playing on PS4/Xbone (I'm sure this is mindblowing for you, since you are talking out of your ass and had no idea).
>Damn, I can't imagine being as out of touch and clueless as you are
not really kid, Discord and co are used simply cause they are better.

only people that actively use the in chat in games are loosers without friends and kids that are not allowed to use the console and PC at the same time

>>386440524


nope as in Splatoon doesn't need voicechat ;)

>>386440524
>Thanks for admiting that Switch's solution is so unbelievably shit and impractical that no one would use it. Somehow it's worse than 2 gens ago. I guess you agree with my point.

Doing a little victory lap over my response shows more emotional investment coming from you than me and I have a Switch.

>>386440524
I mean, sounds like the game's just not for you? If you want a bog standard console shooter just go play Halo 5

>>386413806
>Switch is going to get great onli-

Said absolutely no one ever except the "Nintenbros" living inside Anon's head.

https://twitter.com/coneyzz/status/877606710168485888

>>386430587
I think it's pretty clever actually

>>386440890
I was about to say "I think that's just you" since my net is generally fine, but then I see this shit >>386440905
and I am struck dumb and worried about how big a bullet I just dodged to have good internet on my Switch.

>>386441036
lol still better than PSN

>>386440634
>only people that actively use the in chat in games
see? This is why I said you never touched a non-nintendo console in the last decade. First of all you didn't deny my claim that you never owned a 360/PS4 or Xbone (very suspicious), and secondly you keeprefering to party chat as "in-game chat", which is not how it works at all.
If you don't know what you're talking about why open your mouth in the first place? I don't get it.

>>386440672
I don't see how playing ranked with a full team of friends wouldn't be 3x better wtih voice communication, but alright.

>>386440681
Not a victory lap. I'm just pointing out that when people avoid a service and use an alternative instead it means that service is bad, or at least worse than the second option

>>386440779
I didn't say the core of the game isn't fun but that doesn't excuse all the bullshit and lack of improvement around it. It was kind of excusable (not really) in the first Splatoon since it was a new concept, but the sequel should've fixed most of what it didn't change.

And Halo died long ago with 343i leading the way, not sure why anyone would be interested in the franchise in any way shape or form after 2010

>>386441112
>damage control

If you are grouped with three friends, just have your phone running the voice chat app, but again splatoon really doesn't require team voice communication mid game

>>386441112
>Not a victory lap. I'm just pointing out that when people avoid a service and use an alternative instead it means that service is bad, or at least worse than the second option
Ah, fair. I'm too used to the "haha I win because you can't defend it" mindset around here. Yeah, it could definitely use a touch up...back to the drawing board.

>>386441112
>>386440524
It's no use anon, they will suck up anything and are unable to admit that something is inconvenient or bad.

Is the fucking app the only way to actually get the main ability on the clothing you want to change?

What's with nippon and stupid shit like this?

>>386441280
>just have your phone running the voice chat app
Again, why would anyone do this when Discord or similar services are available? If you need to pull out a second device to use voice chat anyway you might as well not use Nintendo's app (which is more restrictive than Discord, if you're not in a lobby you don't have a way to talk with friends with Nintendo's app. In Discord you can talk regardless of what you're doing in-game, much like Party Systems in real consoles)

> but again splatoon really doesn't require team voice communication mid game
That's up to me to decide. You can play any game without voice chat, so that isn't an excuse. If I WANT to use it it's an hassle.

>>386441294
>I haven't been reading the thread

>>386441428
Be glad it's not Splatoon 1 and there's no variations on the clothes' main abilities at all.

>>386441446
because you use the app to create friend lobbies.

>>386441564
In a way that'd be better, since you wouldn't have to worry about it.

What the game really needs are visual slots. But it's Japan so it'll take them 20 years to figure that shit out.

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>>386425349
no reason to use anything but the charger

but the dualie squelchers are fun too

>>386441589
Oh yeah, I forgot about THAT bullshit.
God damn the Switch is awful. It's more than obvious that all of that shit could be done on the system itself without a phone, since Vita does just that and isn't nearly as powerful. So does every last gen console.
But no, Nintendo wants to force their mobile app onto everyone even if it vastly degrades the online experience.

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>>386441739
I mean, yeah it's a bit clunky, but it's really not that big of a deal...

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>Play with friend
>Out of 15 games we are only put on the same team twice
>Salmon Run is closed for the day and won't reopen until late night/early morning when we will be sleeping
>League Mode is restricted to B+ players so we both have to git gud in order to consistently play with each other

Splatoons multiplayer is so contradicting to the rest of Nintendo's philosophy it's baffling.

>>386438478
>Its ok when Nintendo does it the post

Would you be ok with your car,cell phone,computer,nerflix,pandora or any product you pay for being inaccessible for two hours a day?

The single player is 4 hours long and has no replay value. Turf war gets old really quick. If you don't like a ranked mode you can't play it for two hours. You should be able to use the thing you pay for when you want to use it

>>386439134
> I was only pretending to be a moron

>>386442524
Sounds like the game just isn't for you I guess.

>>386440672
But how am I going to scream instructions to children who won't listen ?

>>386442636
Nintendo doesn't seem to give a shit

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>>386438487
>tfw 5 times as fast as average fastest EU country
and symmetrical at that

>>386440524
You're full of shit. Outside of meme esports games people don't use voice chat.

I'm not out of touch - if anything, I'm happy to not have to suffer the quagmire that would undoubtedly result from letting every 12 year old and mad teenager wail in my ears. I guess it takes a certain amount of maturity to appreciate clean, simple communications systems like Splatoon 2 offers.

>>386440186
>>386439926
>>386440524
>Thanks for admiting that Switch's solution is so unbelievably shit and impractical that no one would use it. Somehow it's worse than 2 gens ago. I guess you agree with my point.
Switch's solution IS unbelievably shit and impractical. Like everything else about Switch - screenshots? sure, just upload it to your twitter. Don't have twitter? Well fuck you then, enjoy restarting your console as the SD card cannot be removed and reinserted on "live" system. Online gaming? Sure, pay us for P2P matchmaking and 20 year old games.

However, once you set the "Switch version" of voice chat up (with Discord instead of shitty Nintendo's app) it becomes one of the greatest solutions to voice chat I've ever used.
Before I set this thing up like this I had to constantly switch (heh) cables around, if I wanted to play on my PC, then I had to connect my mic / headphones to PC, if I wanted to play on PS4 then had to reconnect headset to PS4. That one missing link was that funny switch hori box - 2 channel audio mixer (I actually didn't buy the HORI stuff, bought normal mixer) - with that all my config is now static, the only cable I ever need to connect or reconnect is the one I attach to my phone - then simply start discord app and enjoy voice chat on Siwtch / Playstation / PC / Xbox / Atari / Commodore / whatever else I feel like, without sacrificing voice audio quality or game audio quality (not to even mention mic quality).

Now, I'm not defending shitty design choices Nintendo made, however once set up correctly this is actually quite good (sans the shitty mobile app, use discord instead, it has better app).

>>386439134
>Just enjoy it it's a video game! :)
Never!

>>386442636
you don't deserve to

>>386441112
>I didn't say the core of the game isn't fun but that doesn't excuse all the bullshit and lack of improvement around it. It was kind of excusable (not really) in the first Splatoon since it was a new concept, but the sequel should've fixed most of what it didn't change.
This!

>>386442601
Not them, but the core game is GREAT. The problem is Nintendo's shitty decisions.

>>386413806
>splatoon 1
matched you with randoms, get mostly japs, disconnect 15% of the time, 2 seconds at most to find people to play with
>splatoon 2
matched with best ping, play commonly with the same people, less japs, I've only disconnected 1 time ever being level 38, can take up to 3 minutes to find people to play with

>>386416078
Furries everywhere in splatoon 2 online
Peer to Peer multiplayer+No region lock = disaster if you play at odd hours of the day
Needing to Daisy chain your phone with wires for in-game voice chat

>Netcode is more stable than any other game I've played
Literally had no problems, hell usually I get less lag than any other game.
Sounds like you're just a dumbfuck op

One thing I have seen people bitch about is WIFI. You need a better router. I got a cheap Ethernet connector, you know what difference it made for me? Nadda. Same speed wireless or wired.

And I am not even using the full potential of my internet. I have fiber, my router can only hand out so much to any one connection at a time. And I'm almost positive the Switch's internals top out as certain connection speeds as well.

Tl;dr: don't blame the Switch if your internet is made of fuck.

>>386438549
bro unless you were the only one granted divine grace by the gods of nintendo and/or live in nipland, yes, you really do

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>>386444793
I really wonder if taking long to find a match (besides S+ rank which lacks people) is just because of some issue with how they do the matchmaking? It seems to happen most often after choosing to continue playing instead of joining a lobby fresh. Fuck, I miss the minigames.

>>386426948
Chargers aren't popular as so much as they are fuckhard to use. This is a fast paced game, combined with the lack of aim assist, sniping either requires great hand-eye coordination or large amount of practice.

>>386444793
>matched with best ping
I've heard this once before, but haven't seen anything official. Are you sure it's not regional? Problems with ping are still present and disconnects quite common, even with decent internet.

>>386444895
Sounds more like you're full of shit friendo

>>386444895
>Works on my machine lol

>>386445270
Don't forget the high probability of having an incompetent team or the game deciding to put you on a team with two other chargers the moment you decide to use one.

>>386430712
>at the wrong time
It is more often than not that it's not you getting disconnected, but someone else. The game usually kicks everyone from a match when one person's connection fucks up. It is, however, your fault when you're getting the 'pretty suspicious' line.

>>386445025
Why do so many people not understand that in p2p connections, the other people matter just as much as you do? If you're matched with people who have slower or erratic internet, you're going to feel it. Full on disconnects can happen this way as well.

>>386416210
this really, i hade a disconnect before i got into the actual loby some times but im guessing its the same issue i have with helldivers: shit hosts dropping connections. it happens maybe once in every 60 or so matches

>>386413806
i haven't played splatoon 2, but if you want a really bad nintendo online experience play triforce heroes. seriously the worst nintendo online game ever. the sports games like tennis come in second.

>>386445595
What was bad about it?

>>386445534
Interesting, maybe it wasn't the wrong time, but just playing with the wrong group of people. In ranked that's a bit of an issue since you're often matched right back up with them.

However, I've gotten the pretty suspicious line before for the same type of disconnections, but my internet is fine. I've never had issues like this with other online games, especially not to the point where I get kicked. Hell, if Smash is capable of overcome a good deal of turbulence without kicking anyone, why can't splatoon? It seems like if any problem arises everyone just immediately poofs and you get screwed.

>>386445576
People still think console games use dedicated servers to host the games when it's really a small minority of console games that do so.

>>386445958
Smash was garbage at mitigating connection issues. It would let people stay connected even if they turned the match into a slideshow.

For Splatoon 2, they probably realized it's better to boot the guy with the connection issue instead of letting him bog down everything for the others. However, I did once see a guy that was teleporting around with the Rainmaker in hand. Not sure how that guy slipped through.

>>386436162
treyarch's call of duty gets 1 zombie map per release and it is open all day, and people never get bored of it and try to discover new things.

Stop defending bullshit.

>>386446486
True, but sometimes those matches just took a little time to iron out. In splatoon if it encounters any issue at all, you don't see or feel it, you're immediately cut.

The problem is they don't just boot the guy with the connection issues, but people who have good connections as well. And that's not a good solution either, considering how vital it is that the teams are even, otherwise the one that's down a player just gets steamrolled.
I haven't seen any teleporting yet, but once I got to S+ (and finally started finding enough people for matches), I felt like I was playing with a bunch of laggy japs again half the time. It makes me wonder if the people who do well vs the people who can't really just boils down to their connection more than anything else.

>>386438478
>The mode has two goddamn maps, if it was up every single hour of every single day I would have dropped it by now.

It is a problem you mongoloid, specially on a multiplayer game, SPECIALLY ON A 60 DOLLAR GAME, NOT SOME F2P CRAP.

I feel pity for people who defend this model, restricting your content and making you have less availability of it when you play, this bs is only acceptable on f2p games, basically nintendo is treating you like a child dictating you what to play.

>>386446782
This.
I hate seeing the argument that people would get bored if they could play it whenever they want. It's a pathetic excuse.

>>386445425
I feel like the freshness of your weapon has something to do with how team's are assigned.

>>386446782
>and people never get bored of it and try to discover new things.
Prove it. Since player's stats are tracked, just post some numbers on how many people are playing that mode before and after a month.

>>386447048
Is this your first online experience? Time restricted modes is literally an industry standard.

>>386447362
Not them, but you're utterly delusional if you think time restriction would prevent people from getting bored of the mode. All it does is piss people off, especially in a game with as little to do in it as Splatoon.
The people who will get bored of it will move on, and the people who still want to play will do so. The only difference is that it punishes the people who want to play.

99% of the time people that say the rick rate fucked them are just making excuses. I have fast internet and haven't had any problems besides some laggy people getting an advantage due to their internet, which has nothing to do with Nintendo.

>>386445209
It matches you based on region. There is just a lack of Splatoon players in the west so you're just unable to find matches. When Japan was having their Splatfest before us, the League Rotations had less than 20 teams placing.

>>386445025
Beyond a barebones level of speed online gaming doesn't require raw speed, it requires low latency. Ethernet is vastly superior for that because Wifi is essentially a single port with higher packet loss rates (and split between all the devices your router is connected to)

Meanwhile, wired is just one device on the port, with the reliability of electron transmission.

>>386447671
shhhh.. It's okay when Nintendo does it.

>>386447412
On a console shooter? kek

Yeah I remember having time restrictions for maps/game modes, which I couldn't choose and had no word over it on games like call of duty, gears of war, halo, battlefield. Yeah I absolutely couldn't play more than 2 maps or game modes on a single 2 hour session of those games.

Get out of your nintendo bubble.

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>>386447805
Bro, the tickrate is repulsive. For anyone who plays even remotely competitively, it's very noticeable, especially as you climb up in the ranks.
Those laggy people you're talking about could just as easily be due to the shitty tickrate.

Pic related. Keep in mind Splatoon's tickrate isn't even at 20 and when you factor in ping, those gaps can easily double.

>>386416078
https://twitter.com/Artless_AA/status/891281195459166208

And a small quote from this article - https://octo.im/2017/07/31/splatoon-2-online-multiplayer-analysis/

>Splatoon 2 runs at an update rate of 16Hz (15.75Hz if you’re pedantic). So that means that the game is running at exactly 30% slower than the original game. This even puts Minecraft ahead; which is now a 7 year old game! Adding to that, it’s still peer-to-peer, so we have all the quirks of the old system to battle with. Going forward, Splatoon 2 does not have the system it needs to become seriously competitive. If this is what Nintendo want, then they need to invest time and effort to make Splatoon 2 a competitive e-sport. Splatoon 2 needs dedicated servers. Badly.

>>386445025
What exactly do I look for in a good router? I'm technologically illiterate.

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>>386443793
But that's unrelated to Switch's shitty voice chat or even the App.
All you're doing is praising a 3rd party Audio switch/converter, which isn't even new, those things have existed for ages. In fact last gen the 7.1 headphone emulated surround sound was a huge meme that blew up and at the frontlines of that were Astro's A40 heaset + MixAmp.

The MixAmp does everything that Hori Splat2 thing does and even more (audio level adjustments and the emulated surround sound for standard 2-cup headphones)

Everything you're praising that shitty Nintendo Phone App, Hori device and Switch for you could already do from day1 on you PS4 too (it works on any console, really). You can leave your headset connected to the MixAmp and the MixAmp connected to both your PC and PS4. You can open a podcast on your PC while playing on the PS4 and hear the combined audio from the headset without plugging and unplugging anything, you can even adjust the volume from the PC/PS4 seperately through MixAmp's dials.

I get that you're impressed by Hori's device but it's something that was popularized (even better) last gen on 360/PS3/PC. If your phone has a jack I'm just it works with it too although I never tried that out.
Just don't give ANY credit to Nintendo for that. It's not new tech and it's not exclusive to the Switch. It's simply something you were forced to do and just so happened to be the first time you discovered it.

>>386431360
Yes it did happen on the Wii U. Still happens sometimes. When the game was new, it made Ranked mode unplayable. It also seems to get worse and worse with latency at certain points of the day.

>>386435470
Thanks Nintendo!

>>386449093
Client-side hit detection doesn't help it one bit either.
And they expect people to pay for this when it's even worse than on the Wii U.

>>386441036
It's not that that guy had didn't have good internet, it's that he fought someone who didn't. This can happen to people regardless of how great your own connection is.

>>386449776
you seem mad

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>>386424034
You're going to have a poor experience regardless of whether you're the one disconnecting or not. Because of the nature of this game with the ink turf mechanic. Even if that one player is shit, being a man down is still huge and you're probably going to spend the rest of the game trapped in your base while the enemy team spawn camps you unless everyone left on your team is competent, which they almost never are. Fun!

I'm sure whoever responds to this will claim to just git gud and they can take on anyone 4v1 even when everything is covered in enemy ink and they all know exactly where you are due to spawn camping.

>>386449723
That article should be mandatory for threads like this.

>>386449776
>All you're doing is praising a 3rd party Audio switch/converter, which isn't even new, those things have existed for ages
Yes I am, and yes they did. However, until Switch happened with it shitty voice chat """solution""" the idea of using 2 channel mixer to make your cable configuration more "static" (and at the same time retain the quality and ability to configure levels of each channel separately) was unknown to me.

>Everything you're praising that shitty Nintendo Phone App, Hori device and Switch
>I get that you're impressed by Hori's device
I'm not, I specifically wrote
>I actually didn't buy the HORI stuff, bought normal mixer
>sans the shitty mobile app, use discord instead
I don't praise the way Nintendo did it, I praise the general idea of using mixer to connect 2 channels and reduce cable maintenance. And Switch just happened to introduce me to that idea.

>You can open a podcast on your PC while playing on the PS4 and hear the combined audio from the headset without plugging and unplugging anything, you can even adjust the volume from the PC/PS4 seperately through MixAmp's dials.
and this is why I love that setup now, don't get me wrong, I DO NOT like that Switch forced me to get that extra hardware (mixer) and setup, however now that I have it in place it is great, most people bitch about "complicated and unnecessary components" when they haven't even tried it and they don't know what they're missing.

>Just don't give ANY credit to Nintendo for that. It's not new tech and it's not exclusive to the Switch.
I'm not giving Nintendo (or HORI) credit for inventing that, however I am giving them credit for introducing it to a wider audience (forcing it really...). Well, actually I'm not giving them credit, I'm blaming them for forcing this, but again, now that I have this setup in place it's great.

>>386451584
>muh esports

lol

>>386452241
it is NOT oaky when Nintendo does it

>>386452287
>muh wanting a not shit online experience
lol

>>386450580

Pfft. I was practically single handedly winning the great Mayo vs Ketchup war. My teammates were almost always incompetent.

Is Splat2n fun?
I remember playing the demo for the first and enjoyed it, but never got around to buying it for some reason.

>>386452376
Shit how? A higher tickrate doesn't make the game objectively better

>>386452643
The core game is really fun, it's just been hampered by some really shitty decisions.

>>386452643

It's great. It won't be long before I beat my BotW playtime.

>>386452356
I'm not saying it's okay, I specifically said it was not okay to force the players to buy extra shit in order to play/chat. There SHOULD be a mic connector built in switch, there should be "internal" voice application, and that should be a standard. The extra "external" setup like we need here should be optional.
That being said, mixer + discord app is superior solution, I'm not going back to PS4 voice chat, I'm not going back to any "in-game" voice chats, I'm definitely not going to use Nintendo dedicated app etc. I wish I knew sooner.

>>386452784
Actually, it objectively does. This is one of the few scenarios where objectively can actually be used.

Did you even read the article or view that twitter post, or did you just stop at "esports" in that quote?

Why do I always see people with basic names like "Jeff" "Tom" "Chris"? Are these bots?

>>386452894
No, they are Jeffs, Toms, and Chris'.
Probably children

>>386452882
>I specifically said it was not okay to force the players to buy extra shit in order to play/chat.

You don't have to. Earbud to your phone, headphones to your Switch. Put in earbud, put headphones on over top. Works fine. No mixer needed.

>>386452892
no it really doesn't.

FIX

THE

TICKRATE

NINTENDO

>>386452643
Gameplay is fun as fuck. There is a SHIT TON of minor inconveniences that make 0 sense for a game in 2017 that can be pretty annoying though. Overall it's worth it but at times it has you shaking your head thinking "why the fuck is this even a thing?".

>>386452894

Kids most likely. I see lots of Dad and Son variants too.

>>386453072
Care to explain why?
To use a better known term, you're basically arguing that a higher framerate doesn't objectively make games better. This stance is objectively flawed.

>>386453067
>You don't have to. Earbud to your phone, headphones to your Switch. Put in earbud, put headphones on over top. Works fine. No mixer needed.
well, thet's really ghetto solution, but hey whatever works for you

>>386452643
It's great, there's just a severe lack of content.

>>386453203

My point is, mixers are only needed if you want "dat sweet gamer gear."

>>386453183
It's true, good game design is independent from frame rate.

You cant just say that something is better simply because it run past a specific threshold, that doesn't make any sense.

>>386452894
People name their console profile their real names if they share it with family members. You won't name your profile XxxSplatfaggotxxX if you're sharing console with your little brother or sister.

>>386453324

More content than the first game. What with the horde mode and everything. The single player is somewhat better too. And the local multiplayer is vastly better if you can actually find more Switch users.

>>386453531
>More content than the first game.
At launch, maybe. Coming off of what practically started as an early access game that eventually became whole, then going back to another early access game sucks.
>What with the horde mode and everything.
That's not playable at all times.
> The single player is somewhat better too.
Arguably. The fixes it implemented should have just been in the first game to begin with.

>>386453424
Good game design is independent from frame rate. That's obvious true.
But it is not independent from the game. It doesn't matter how great the game design is if it's hampered by technical issues. Higher framerates provide smoother, more accurate gaming experiences. The same could be said for tickrate in online games. That is objectively making the game better. It's really not a matter of opinion here.

>>386416210
>People blame Nintendo for their shit internet.

Meanwhile I had no problems in Splatoon 1 on WiFi when my Wii U is farther from my router than the Switch.

>>386453692
better how? Why do you need more accuracy if the game isn't designed for it?

>>386454859
>Why do you need more accuracy if the game isn't designed for it?
What does this even mean? What are you trying to say?

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>>386452617
Wow, a turf war with literally everyone thrown into it and most importantly all of the players who are new to Splatoon with 2. Splatoon 2 must be open season for veteran players right now.

>>386455460
It's actually pretty awful. There aren't enough S+ players in the west, so I end up matching with the same 10 or so people.

>>386455047
The only thing he could be saying is that the game isn't meant for players to be past a certain skill level anyway, so it doesn't matter that it neuters player ability with technical limitations. Anyone with a brain knows that it's because of money though.

Has anyone played in wired LAN mode with 7 other people? Must play like a dream.

>>386413806
I don't have problems with this nor any other game that you can play online. What could need fixing though is those weird but never show up again bugs from the MvK Splatfest, the Nintendo Switch Online app, (and your internet)

>>386416078
most of these people are either complaining about their crappy internet or actual legit problems with Splatoon 2 (like tick rate and matchmaking issues). though I think it's only this game having these troubles because whenever I play MK8D online it just works.

>>386455930
I will be regularly in a month or so.

>>386455664
Since when did higher tick rate mean higher skill?

>>386456548
Do I have to explain something that's common sense? Think about it.

when I get the urge to play splatoon I just play on wiiu and then when I wanna switch maps I shut the shit off.

funny how that's still a thing.

>>386456657
Im waiting

Who the FUCK thought those were good weapons for Salmon Run?
Already lost 150 promotion points because we wipe whenever a flying fish or a big.bomb dude shows up.

>>386455320
Digimon/10

>>386416218
So basically like every console

>>386455643
This. Shit sucks. I bet I've played with you.

>>386457117
If you seriously want to know and aren't just shitposting, then read this.
https://octo.im/2017/07/31/splatoon-2-online-multiplayer-analysis/

>>386457117
I'll use an analogy. Maybe you will be able to understand that since you couldn't understand my previous post, which was pretty explicit. The part about limiting player ability with technical limitations.

If you gave Usain Bolt a pair of hiking boots and told him to beat his record, he wouldn't be able to do it in any amount of tries. Hiking boots aren't meant for sprinting the same way that low refresh rate isn't meant for competitive play. Or peer-to-peer connections for that matter.

Failing that, you can read this:
https://octo.im/2017/07/31/splatoon-2-online-multiplayer-analysis/

And since I expect your attention span to be short of reading this entire thing, I'll recommend the "Ping", "Update Rates", "Tick Rates", "Splatoon's Update Rate", and "Splatoon 2's Update Rate" sections.

If you still can't understand something so simple then I don't think I'm able or willing to help you further.

>>386456264
Very few people are complaining because their own internet is crappy. One of the huge detriments of p2p is your internet can be great, but if other person's is trash, then that's the connection you're stuck playing with. Your fantastic internet doesn't magically make theirs better, their shit one drags everything down to its level.

>>386457908
who the fuck is this

I just wish it was easier for me and my friend to play together. We just have to hope we get in the same game and then we dont get to choose if we are on the same team or not. i didn't see a way to play against randoms together in the app ether.

What the fuck is wrong with nintendo?

>>386458316
Someone who knows far more about the subject than you do.

>>386416218

No, your WIFI is garbage. I have tested both on my Switch, lan adaptor and WIFI. Same speeds, same latency. Your network is shit.

Who here /skippingsalmonrun/ today

>>386458230
But again, just because a game is more technically complicated doesn't necessarily imply that it is good

>>386458454
>technically complicated
>doesn't necessarily imply that it is good
Nobody was implying anything of the sort. Are you sure you're old enough to be here?

>>386458416
Your amazing internet doesn't magically make the internet of the people you play against any better. Why is peer to peer so hard to understand for some people?

>>386458676

I wasn't addressing that. I was addressing the idiot's claim that lan adapters are a necessity. They are a ripoff.

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>>386413806
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE THE FUCK IS SHIFTY STATION ON THE MAP ROTATION?!

Are they seriously holding that stage for splatfest only?!
Fucking nonsense

>>386458807
My bad, I jumped the gun.

>>386458861
They'll probably release the stage once all the splatfests are over.

>>386458554
The whole argument is about how Splatoon 2 is objectively worse because of the lower tickrate tho

>>386445852
connections are always shit, and you feel it, because the game freezes and gives you a little refreshing icon or whatever until everything re-syncs. sometimes you get some people that have decent connections, are in the same country, and aren't far from their wireless router or using their cellphone as a hotspot. but after a game or two with those people, the connection quality always seems to degrade.

>>386458861
It's splatfest only and from what they've said, you'll never see it again because the next splatfest will have a shifty station with a completely different layout.

>>386449776
do you know what ive been doing for the past like 3 fucking years
consoles -> hdmi splitter -> audio line in to my PC which can go through either my headphones or speakers.
I did it because I just play through a monitor and not a TV but fuck, now that I've used it so much even if I had a TV I think I'd still be doing it.

>>386459009
And it is. Its online component is brought down by the extremely poor tickrate, among other things.
But nowhere did anyone state that the framerate, tickrate, etc. is enough to make a game good. What was said is that higher framerates, tickrates, etc. make games better, which is absolutely true.

You could play a game with amazing mechanics, characters, story, music, etc. but if it's a slideshow or things are happening on screen that flat out shouldn't be, it's going to be an awful experience. On the flip side, if the game is shit, but the framerate is buttery smooth and the events on screen are completely accurate, that's still not enough to make the game good.
Both aspects need to be good to make a great game. The higher the framerate or tickrate, the better and more accurate the experience, the better the game. But obviously you need a good base game to begin with.

>>386459009
They're both bad for the same reason. Relying on peer-to-peer connections and a low refresh rate on the interaction between players.

At least Splatoon 2 has LAN, which is its saving grace for competitive, but unless you have an opportunity to play on that kind of set up with 7 other people then it means jack shit for you ( and 99%) of people.

Splatoon 1 seems to have a LAN mode that's only accessible to officially hosted tournaments? Thanks Nintendo.

>>386416078
reminder that the joycons STILL scratch the screen
people are basically forced to buy a screen protector

>>386421435
This

>>386423486
Doesn't PSN at the very least have dedicated servers? That at least is what they tell consumers they're paying for with their PS+ subscription

>>386460172
The dock, you mean
I haven't had trouble with it yet, but I am careful putting it in.

>>386429236
If you actually have the privilege of being able to click a button to buy a Switch at retail price whenever you want, fucking go for it

>>386460172

That has happened to a tiny handful of people.

>>386416210
This. I've literally had zero disconnects.

>>386457157
Flyfish can only be killed with bombs (and stingray). Weapon selection has nothing to do with it. Gootuber OHKOs Steelheads as long as others can protect it from small fry.

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Where do I go to draw stuff in Splatoon 2?

>>386461175
The red mailbox. You have to link a Twitter or Facebook, though.

>>386461343
Please be joking.

>>386461457
Go try it out for yourself.

>>386461457
lol

>>386461457
Not him but you really should just have a fake facebook account you use for shit like this. So much shit these days requires a facebook account you might as well just make a fake one and set it to private. Will make your life easier.

>>386461087
Then you're either lucky or haven't been playing very long.
p2p is shit for online games and shouldn't be condone.

>>386461343
Do people use a controller and go pixel by pixel or do they actually use that weird finger touchscreen?

So what are the Jellyfishes' status in the Inkling World? Are they second-rate citizens? They can't do Turf War or help decide things with Splatfests, so what do they do?

>>386461498
Well fuck. I'll make an account later.

>>386461831
I bought this to play around with.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E0LKHFC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>386461703
really? what requires a facebook account? I've never played a game where it or any feature contained therein required it, I've never been on a website that required it, nothing. please list examples.

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>>386425349
Turf Wars : Aero MG
Splat Zone: Rapid Blaster
Tower Control: Octobrush/Tentatek Splattershot
Rain Maker : Octobrush
You really shouldn't be maining any one weapon, at least not in the traditional sense. Use whatever fits the particular gamemode/map.

>>386416078
>tickrate lower than minecraft
>p2p
>empty lobbies
>horrible to try and play with friends
>horrible voice chat
>smartphone app
>time restricted modes

>>386464007
>can't change weapons or gear without backing out of matchmaking, changing them and starting up matchmaking again.