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>game has a lot of bugs
>the bugs are literal and not metaphorical

>>386404509
Bugs... easy on the carrots

So what's the new update?
Where are those secret dream fights or whatever?

>>386404628
It's a secret.

386404628

i have those.

>>386404628
You can fight Zote in Bretta's room & The White Defender underneath the area where you fought the Dung Defender initially.

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>>386404718
You cheeky bugger

>>386404842
Sweet

>>386404901
You can also acquire a fast travel via your dream nail, just got talk to the Seer. If the Seer is already dead you'll have the ability automaticallyhold down + dream nail to create portal, hold up + dream nail to teleport to it.

As far as the new stag station it's by The Palace grounds past the corpse which leads you into the White Palace

btw. there is a new game+ ?

>>386405121
Ignore my typos I'm a tired bug

>>386405212
Nope. But beating the game unlocks Steel Soul Mode.

>>386405212
There's steel soul, if you are a masochist

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>>386405121
Great, I'll need to get back to it, forgot that I only got 98%, better clean it up and check the new stuff

what happen in steel soul ??? OoO

>>386405359
Good luck! I'm personally hoping that Quirrel comes back eventually.

>>386405378
If you die you have to restart the game.

>>386405378
Iron man mode essentially. If you die you restart the game from the beginning. Don't do it anon.

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>>386405505
HAHAHA that's a no then.... there is some reward tho?

>>386404436
Can you warp to invalidate qrey mourner quest?

>>386405612

Beside achievements related to steel soul mode, no.

Though it easier than most people think.

>>386405612
You get an achievement for beating the game in Steel Soul.
And another one for getting 100%
I'm currently trying to get them.
The good news is dying to a dream boss doesn't count.

>>386405741
well, and how do avoid finishing the game?

cuz in this type of games i always finish it and i wasn't even trying to.

>>386405631
Oh damn, has someone tested this yet?

>>386405936
It's pretty obvious when you're about to fight the final boss. And after you beat it you can just reload the save right before you go in.

>>386405993
well this game IS full of bugs

Is the game worth it? It's on sale right now but not too much. It went down like 5 bucks.

>>386406045
i hope ur right.
i started the final boss in metroid 2 without notice

>>386406089 YES

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>>386404560

>>386406089
It's one of my favourite games, but that's cause I'm a big Metroidvania fan and this one is really well done.

>>386406089
Its the the most solid metroidvania released this decade. Inb4 that spic lamulana troll shows up.

>>386406218
The final boss is in The Temple of the Black Egg in the first area after dirtmouth, the whole game is spent opening it.

>>386406089
is really painfull to say but is very much like a souls game

Devs did an AMA on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/6rxd72/summary_of_team_cherrys_rgaming_ama/

FUTURE CONTENT

• Content pack 2 will focus on new content and characters. Dream Fights may come after in Content pack 3 and beyond
• Content pack 2 will come out "in the coming months"
• Blogpost next week maybe?
• Regions outside of Hallownest such as other kingdoms will probably be explored
• Hallownest past will be explored
• Pale Ore is related to the Pale Beings, and it's origins will be expanded on (pls don't be wyrm ambergris)
• Possible things to do with Grubfather?
• Colosseum might be explored more in the future
• May learn more about the Snail Tribe
• Ants were planned for Forest of Bones, might see them in the future
• Hunter boss is highly improbable
• When relics were added, they did not realize that players would have too much geo to ever use. They plan to have geo sinks in the future
• Possible giant dragonfly boss?
• Iselda taking up her old warrior mantle in the future?
• A third character story is being thought of, but it's a little way off
• Aspid boss was considered, may return (plsno)
• Hornet campaign will take place in old and new areas
• More Mr. Mushroom?
• More Dream bosses in the future
• Great Knights may be explored but not as a dream boss, or even in a dream
• Zote appearing somewhere else is possible in the future
• The hive may get another art pass, such as an NPC or hivehomes
• Boss Rush considered, Dream Mantis Lord may be a thing
•What determines whether or not a Sibling can leave the Abyss will be examined someday

>>386406413
Only in terms of atmosphere and storytelling

>>386406396
well.... i am an idiot cuz i was fighting that so

>>386404560
Holy fuck

>>386406497
very much agree

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is there any way to open this gate between fungal wastes and city of tears?

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>>386406442
Sounds cool

>Iselda taking up her old warrior mantle in the future?
Paphanada...

>>386406715
Nope

>>386406939
rly nigga?

>>386407038
I'm fairly certain that never opened when I got 100%

Still waiting for the inevitably butchered Switch version so I can play all comfy on my bed before sleep.

>>386404560
kek, good one.

>>386406442
>Grubfather
I hope we get to fight that fat fuck
Or at least they collectively move on to their next form as some kind of NPC

>>386405121
What happens if you teleport out of the black egg when hornet holds hollow knight down?

>>386405993
No, I tried it and the flower just breaks

>>386407862
That's a shame. At least it'll cut down on return time.

>>386407350
aye now i see that connects with the city of tears

>>386406319
I'd give that title to AM2R. The dying mechanic is something that will forever annoy me even if I have died like 3 times, and while this comes to personal preference, the music is not that good. Other than that, it is fantastically well designed and I'm really, really liking it

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I wish the Dreamers were actual bosses

>>386408901
Would have been a lot more satisfying getting their seals unlocked if they were bosses, that's for sure

>>386408901
I think we all do. Maybe one of the content packs will change it up.
I think my first was the one that agreed that the dreamers should be awoken and what not, so I wasn't surprised when that wasn't wasn't a boss, but when I came across Herrah the BEAST I was very disappointed that wasn't a boss
Also, I only ever found it one time, but there's a temple like area in the Beast's Den with a bunch of dead spiders in it, and one of them runs off after you explore the area for a bit. Has anyone else found this room/what if anything happens with the spider that runs off?

>>386409190
It would be fine if 1-2 weren't bosses, but at least one of them didn't want the seal broken going off the dialogue after getting the dash cloak.

Also no spider boss in a game about bugs is weird.

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is this a.....normal thing?

>>386404436
Tell me about the bugs, why do they wear the masks?

>>386409457
You must be playing an older/GoG version, took the same screenshot when that happened to me.

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>>386404560

>>386409553
Well they don't, actually. Just the main character and creatures like it.
It's more like an old insect husk being inhabited by semi-sentient, abyssal energy
No mind to think.
No will to break.
No voice to cry suffering.

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>>386409824
>that climb up from the abyss after getting the Void Heart

>>386409824
But Hornet wears a mask and she talks, So does Zote.

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i fell so angry about this

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mantis lords feel so good to fight. can't wait for the dream version

>>386410103
They're not regular vessels

btw do rancid eggs respawn?

>>386410103
Hornet is an exception, she's related to the main character. Even then, it's debatable due to the artstyle
Let me put it this way though, every Vessel wears a mask/husk, but not every bug does
Zote is definitely not a wearing mask though, he has asymmetrically grown horns, and a moving mouthpiece.

>>386410263
So what makes them so special?

>>386410483
zote is a fucking piece of shit and should die in a painfull way for stilling my waifu.

>>386410647
stealing*

>>386410394
I don't think the clusters do, but if you need rancid eggs there's an NPC that sells them in the royal waterways

>>386410505
Every other Vessel failed/broke, and Hornet is the incomplete/imperfect version of the Vessel you play as. She's still very strong due to the circumstance of her birth, though.

>>386410505
I don't know what Zote's deal is, but Hornet was supposed to serve as a "daughter" to one of the Dreamers, so even though she was built the same way she wasn't made with being a Vessel in mind. It's probably also why she doesn't just kill the Hollow Knight herself.

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>>386409395
There is one in Deepnest, it is a mix between a mimc and a spider though. I was lucky and it glitched and got stuck in the wall, i could easily kill it
>mfw i realised it was stuck

I just started this game, and I know you're supposed to run around and poke at shit until something moves the story or progression forward, but doing that is only kind of fun early on. I bought all the map stuff, and money just keeps accumulating. Not sure what to do now.

I got the cloak, opened some tunnels and shortcuts... what now?

>>386410647
I agree, and you can literally leave him to die next playthrough.

>>386410936
If you have the dash cloak you can find the wall climb item in the fungal wastes. Save up 1800 for the lumafly lantern so you can interact with dark environments

>>386411049
Okay. Thanks.

>>386410116
maybe it's because you're stinky

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>>386411282
>odor of a glorious warrior
>stinky

>>386410936
Don't be scared of the Fungal Wastes just because you don't have a map, you'll get through them in a couple of rooms, move on to another area, and won't come back for a while. >>386411049 is right too, but you don't need to grind for the lantern this early if you don't want to.

I have been playing this game for a while but i still have a lot to go to finish it (i think), when does the story really starts to move forward?
I am on the second fight against Hornet and got to most areas of the game, but everything i got so far was that there used to be a huge kingdom and some sort of catastrophe destroyed it, and the King was almost a deity of sorts

>>386411524
story moves forward after you get the kingseal

>>386411524
It doesn't, it stays in the background for pretty much the entire game. Updates might spell some more stuff out.

>>386411415
ikr?!

>>386411524
The way the story is presented, and the story itself, it one of the reasons early reviews/players related it to Dark Souls. Just make sure to talk to every NPC, exhaust the dialogue, and check up on them. Especially after you get a mobility upgrade or something, anything you think might trigger a flag.

can't believe my stupid joke became an open discussion of the game.

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>>386404436
So this game is going to get the Hornet DLC yes? It won't be re-using all of the hollowed right? Complete new areas? Maybe outside of kingdoms edge to where that mushroom guy was flying to into a desert? Great opportunity to use new buggies like Tarantula hawks, desert tarantula and antlions. Or maybe wet, salty ocean cavern with all the kinds of nasty crustaceans like spider crabs, Mantis shrimp, lobsters or even more non-bug creatures like the Uumuu jellyfish.

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>>386406442
Sounds fucking horrendous.
>No mention of difficulty what so ever
>"We want the casual brain dead audience"
Simply epic, no wonder Hollow shite was such a blunder.
>Goes on sale constantly.
>Still barely sells
Even most casuals want nothing to do with it.
How after all of those sales is it still 600k copies from 1 million sold?
That is fucking pathetic.

>>386412772
see
>>386406442
But Hornet and Zote campaigns have been confirmed for awhile.

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>>386404560

>>386412828
There's a la-mulana thread going on right now, you can shitpost there.

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>>386412834
Cool, really hoping for a desert or aquatic themed kingdom, because if anything is more strange, terrifying and disgusting than bugs, it's ocean life.

>>386406442
No info about the midwife in deepnest is pretty upsetting. Kind of hoped the spooky bitch would get something.

>>386412834
zote fucking sucks i want to play as quirrel

Just entered the big city
Jumped on the rafters and went up some elevators
Fighting guard minibosses and the flying one wont die and the gates wont go up
Fukc

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>replay game for first time
>effortlessly beat False Knight and Hornet without taking damage
I struggled so much with Hornet the first playthrough

If the Pale King gave the bugs sapience then how come we get bugs that seem to come from far away who have never been to the kingdom before?

How's the enemy variety in this game?

>>386414126
If you take the rafters, you can unlock some doors in the buildings to make travel a bit easier. The only guards that are a real problem are the big ones with shields, but you get 50 geo per head if you take them out.

Feels like a lot of the citizens drop a decent amount of money, too, but that might just be my imagination.

>>386414262
I cant make progress the bug wont die and the gates wont go up in the elevator miniboss encounter to get to the bench!

>>386414390
Upgrade your nail dude, its over to the bottom left from the bench.

>>386414232
Lackluster in all honesty.

>>386414232
There is a compendium of all enemies with 146 entries, bosses included
I'd say it's pretty decent

>>386414456
I did! Paid 250 geo.
This flying bug will not die. Its got to be a glitch

>>386412828
>TAG
>Rabi-Ribi
>mediocre
>Marrow even being mentioned at all
this is some spicy b8

>>386412828
I like Valdis but 'god tier' gives it way too much credit.

Just put it down in good tier.

>axiom verge anything but mediocre.

>>386414232
every level has unique enemies and sometimes thematic reskins of other enemies.
they all feel like they belong in their areas and can vary in movesets pretty well.

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>>386413148
I don't post in La-mulana threads though, why would I go there?
>>386414663
>TAG
>Rabi-Ribi
>mediocre
Yes, right where they belong.
>Marrow even being mentioned at all
Everybody who actually has the skill to play Marrow has enjoyed it greatly. I've got numerous people who added me to steam to ask for advice and thank me for recommending it to them.
Not my fault you're a shitter that cannot handle actual difficulty m8.
Marrow is an incredible metroidvania.

>>386414814
>I like Valdis but 'god tier' gives it way too much credit.
I disagree. Valdis Story gives you 4 characters, each of which can be built very differently, each of which have numerous weapons and armor they can equip, further adding to the build diversity and the game also has a solid combat system to boot.
The soundtrack is great, the art style is good and there's some decent difficulty there too.

The flaws the game has are limited enemy variety and certain builds being unviable for getting S ranks, such as builds that focus heavily in the defensive tree.
Other than those, Valdis Story is solid as fuck.

>axiom verge anything but mediocre.
I don't like metroid games. I've tried them numerous times and they're not to my liking. The only one I like seems to be regarded as the worse one, Fusion. Axiom Verge is better than the metroid games it copies IMO.
The variety of weapons and the music does it for me.
Admittedly I'm bias as fuck towards games that have incredibly good OSTs and Axiom Verge has many great tracks. Vital Tide in particular.

So more areas are confirmed. What do you think they'll be?

Ants definitely need to be added. Termites would be really cool too.

>>386416615
I'm looking forward to any money sinks I can put into.

>>386404436
I died to brooding mawlek five times, I'm in for a rough ride aren't I

>>386416004
Valdis Story's a fun action game but it suffers as a metroidvania.
>traversal abilities are spells that take time to manually equip
>other traversal abilities are just keys
>small world with short story, which is only partially made up for by replayability
>story, backstory, and dialogue all edgy as fuck
>areas that damage you over time, which can be mitigated only by a temporary potion or by having enough health for it not to matter
I disagree on the OST/art style, but I don't think they're terrible and it's subjective anyway so who cares

How old is the mc? is he a shota?

>>386416004
>>386417225
I think one of the biggest missed opportunities with Valdis is that very early on they set up this sunken city theme where the locals scramble for supplies amidst the ruins.

But this element practically never exists in the game beyond in concept, instead you just run around from A to B for no other reason than to acquire the key/magic allowing access to the next area and grab some crew a long the way.

There's a distanct lack of character and heart at the core of the game that causes it to all feel like filler until the very end where Valdis' corpse dumps some backstory on you.

>>386412834
Wait, they confirmed the Zote campaign?

I literally just completed the game. 68%, totally blind. I have to say, it was a good fucking ride. Now I want to 100% it, any advice? I just fought Hornet a 2nd time and I got the king mark. I'll keep going tomorrow.

also, is there only 1 ending or more?

>>386418151
There's 3. If you don't want any spoilers, go check up on that white-armored corpse in the ancient basin (needs a double jump). If you can dream nail into him and figure things out, you'll know a bit of what else you're missing.

>99% completion
>all I'm missing is a mask shard
>have no clue where it is and not even a walkthrough can help me unless I go back to every location again

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>>386408826
>I'd give that title to AM2R

>>386416760
If you are having problems with him you can bruteforce your way, but he is rather easy, you just have to dash to the other side when he spill acid

>>386418509
Shit, are you me?

I missed 2 mask shards but found out there's one in Bretta's home (just found her before beating the game). I have no idea where the other one might be, but I finished at 98%.

>>386418295
Sadly you need to grind out like 1800 essence before you can advance the story further

>>386410059
>the enemies don't attack you anymore

>>386418643
Fuck. I only have like 700 and something.

Oh boy.
Also, where can I get more of those metals to upgrade my weapon? I need 1 and I already have 1. Does the coliseum gives one? I can't complete the second challenge because fuck flying enemies

>>386418898
I need 2*
fuck.

>>386418898
There's 6 pale ores in the game in total, 1 of them you can grab from the coliseum. Off the top of my head, there's a boss in deepnest you can kill for another. Rescuing a bunch (I think 30+) grubs can nab you a third. Can't remember the other locations without looking it up though.

Grub locations will display on the map after you beat the Tower of Love. The key to that tower is in the Queen's Garden.

>>386418898
Colloseum lv 2 gives one and there others all over the fucking place, you might need to look at a guide to see the ones you missed, but if you don't want to do that, just go to everywhere on the map you haven't been yet

Well, shit. I just did the Traitor Lord fight, killed it with the help, and nothing happened. Kind of spoiled myself because I got stuck, and apparently there was supposed to be some scene that plays out when it dies with the NPC. It died to Spore Shroom cloud, so maybe that broke it? Fuck. First real "bug" I've encountered since they fixed opening the full map on a bench locking the game. Hate missing out on content. Also missed the Abyss Egg in the Abyss lifeblood room because I didn't think it would boot me out and also immediately autosave and lock the door, but that's just a line of dialogue.

>>386419081
I know there's one on top of the crystal caves in addition to those.

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>>386418898
>I can't complete the second challenge because fuck flying enemies
Oh boy. If you're going for 100%, that means you're going to have to beat the third challenge.

FUCK THESE FUCKING LITTLE ASSHOLES FUCKING UP RUN EVERY GODDAMN TIME

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>>386418898
This fucking thing is evil

>>386419081
>>386419135
>>386418295

Thanks guys, I'll try to do everything.

>>386419512
>>386419840

Fuck those little bastards. I've never hated a bug so much.

>>386419840
Whyyyyy do they have a tri-shot

They already have flight and the health to be annoying assholes, but shooting 3 projectiles like that is twisting the knife when there's multiple of them on screen

>>386419512
At least you can pogo those things, they only shoot diagonally, the orange assholes shoot directly at you and lead their shots

>>386420030
Yeah, flying enemies are annoying by default, a flying shotgun that can withstand 3 hits is painful, I'm glad you can kill them whit one greatslash

i got stuck in the part where you first meet these fucks >>386419840 along with the jumping fleas, near the place where its snowing and you have to jump a lot of times and theres fat FAT FAT passive bugs

i think i missed a lot of stuff, i went to the dark area with the spiders and didnt find a boss

i need help, unless im given clear instructions im too arsed to play this game

i was liking it, i really was, just got tired of dying 30 times to the same thing because of practically unavoidable contact damage

>>386421080
The boss in deepnest can be found by walking left from the pool/bench area. You have to double jump up to a ledge and break down a cracked wall, that should reveal a narrow set of corridors and an NPC for you to follow.

>>386421235
>double jump

oh...no...

>>386404436
shill thread

>>386411524
The story is never just dropped on you. Dialogue with NPCs and the occasional relic you find hidden around fills in the blanks

>>386423372
Bait comment

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>>386406442
>he browses leddit
maybe you should stay there

>>386421796
Oh fuck.

Grab the key item from the crystal peak (I hope you have it), head down to the basin and rocket your way through that spike tunnel. There's an ass you have to kick to get the double jump, and he'll drop a grave to give you some essence afterwards.

>>386420024
something to keep in mind is that you are locked out of the first ending once you do what those anons spoke of. You start at that last bench when you finish an ending so if you really want to get all endings in one playthrough, it's something to consider. If you want to take your time and explore the game before fighting the last boss, you can always do everything besides dreamnailing the corpse in the basin, do the ending, dreamnail the corpse, and than do the next two endings.

>>386421235
>>386421796
>>386423698
You can also just crystal dash to the wall and break it down without the double jump. It's up to you. You'll need to get the double jump at some point for 100% though and it's not too out of the way.

>>386406442
confirmed reddit game lol

>>386410647
your character would never be able to return her love, as it has no concept of emotions
better that she be with a living, thinking being even if he's a cunt

>>386412834
>zote campaign
>it's just you traveling around cucking people

What charm specs do you guys use? I'm trying for a caster setup right now, with Spell Twister + Soul Catcher + Shaman Stone (still need to get the last notches).
Damage is good, even though I feel some of the bosses were meant to be tackled purely melee.

Is this game fun?

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>>386427048
>exploration
compass + soul catcher + long nail + thorns of agony
i added grubsong last night and now i feel like i'll never run out of soul

>boss fights
quick focus + soul catcher + spore shroom
i must have killed like 3 bosses thanks to spore shroom alone

>>386427048
For my first playthrough, it was focused on healing as much as possible with Shape of Unn, Quick Charge, Soul Catcher, Grubsong, and Nailmaster.
My second playthrough, I had realized how quickly bosses would die just outdamaging them and switched to quick slash with fragile charms
On my third playthrough, I did a caster build as well and used Shaman Stone, Spell Twister, Fragile Heart, Nailmaster and Soul Catcher.

This made most bosses a breeze as a full soul bar allows enough basic spell casts to kill bosses almost on its own. A few helpful things to remember is that the basic spell can hit multiple times if timed right, the Abyss Shriek deals about 6x a fully upgraded nail if every hit strikes, and Descending Dark has i-frames when you land allowing you to ignore damage

The last trial of the Colo of Fools is definitely where it shines though. you can breeze through the entire no healing section in seconds if you dash to the lower center and use an Abyss Shriek to kill everything instantly. Nailmaster Great Slashes work well of course, but Abyss Shriek will immediately kill all four of the mobs that fire in four directions as well as the fools that spawn after. Even the God Eater goes down almost immediately just by throwing shades at the pet since it's so big and get hit by each one multiple times.

>>386427912
are the fragile charms lost forever when you die? or do they work similiarly to the baldur shell.
so far i haven't used them because i'm still on my first playthrough and die all the time to bosses.

>>386428034
They're not lost forever. You'll have to pay leg eater to get them fixed, though, which is a lot of backtracking.

>>386428034
You pay to have them fixed at the npc you first bought them at. I agree that it's better not to use them when you still don't know what to expect as it can be a pain having to walk back.

>>386428128
>>386428146
allright thanks. i'll stick with my mushroom farts then

>>386428375
The game doesn't count dream bosses as deaths, though, so you better have them on you then.

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>>386404560

I don't understand.

>>386418509
>>386418592
Did you donate at the fountain of gibsmedat?

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>>386426217
INVINCIBLE
FEARLESS
SENSUAL
MYSTERIOUS
ENCHANTING
VIGOROUS
DILIGENT
OVERWHELMING
GORGEOUS
PASSIONATE
TERRIFYING
BEAUTIFUL
POWERFUL

>>386428128
damn
how do i make more money?

>>386430310
Keep the gathering swarm charm on and play the game, you'll wind up with more than enough before you even need the fragile charms for anything. There's an NPC somewhere near the entrance to City of Tears you can sell relics too as well.

>>386430674
is there any use for those relics other than to be sold as money? i dont need to hoard anything for some sort of upgrade

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>when you don't like games with waifus, but you immediately think of Hornet as a top tier waifu

I'm so conflicted.

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