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Review codes have been sent out, watch yourselves for leaks.
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C0py That :)
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Source?
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>>386394192
why are review codes even a thing? All they do is give shitty youtube fags free access to the game. It's bribing and it's rewarding those that make money off talking about games
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>>386394192
So you're telling me I should stay out of /v/...

For a FULL WEEK?
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>>386394032
That's another great aspect of the sonic hacking scene; full commented disassemblies are the starting point.
Every other game, super Mario world included just has a bunch of incompatible closed source tools and random bits of info collected here and there.
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... what leaks?
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>>386394480
none yet. but the nukes can come at any moment
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SOON
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So uh... Torrent when?
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>>386394419
Good Press for more success
Bad Press can still impress

>>386394470
Mario games are kinda lame to begin with, so hacking them isn't as interesting. Plus nowadays Nintendo just shits all over them so who cares anymore? Just make a Mario Maker stage. While the Sega hackers now get to make games for them like this is the new STI
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All Tom leaks are fake. You can trust me on this.
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oh boi, here we go.
i dont want to see leaks but at the same time i want to know is hydrocity in game
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Leaker here. Ice Cap didn't make it in, bros. The Sonic 3 stage is Hydrocity.
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Would you?
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>>386394748
(spoiler) it is (/spoiler)
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>>386394782

thank you for contributing in 4chan's forum, have a great day :)
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>>386394680
Likely not today. All the people that got review codes are e-celeb idiots who don't know how to even work a computer
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>>386394737
You can trust me on it also, the guy admitted he was bullshitting in the synchtube last night.
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Green Hill
Marble
Spring Yard
Labyrinth
Star Light
Scrap Brain
Final
Emerald Hill
Chemical Plant
Aquatic Ruin
Casino Night
Hill Top
Mystic Cave
Oil Ocean
Metropolis
Sky Chase
Wing Fortress
Death Egg (S2)
Angel Island
Hydrocity
Marble Garden
Carnival Night
Ice Cap
Launch Base
Mushroom Hill
Flying Battery
Sandopolis
Lava Reef
Hidden Palace
Sky Sanctuary
Death Egg (S&K)
The Doomsday
Palmtree Panic
Collision Chaos
Tidal Tempest
Quartz Quadrant
Wacky Workbench
Stardust Speedway
Metallic Madness
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@386394826

>I'm going to keep posting this shitty image for free (You)s
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>>386390262
Take Adventure's principles in level design and refine the controls. No more jittery hairpin turning. Give Sonic acceleration and response to slopes.

Ideally I would have them model Sonic's momentum and speed gain on arcade racers. Not the steering or whatever mind you. Just how the cars handle more or less. I do like how acceleration alters steering timing and trajectory in the boost games but I'm not a fan of SPRINGS LOL BOOST LOL GOFAAAAASSST.

On that note, if they ever got the controls and movement down enough, I'd say get rid of the rigid trajectories on springs in 3D games as well. Take some pages back from pinball and sandbox racing games (or the jump challenges in GTA) and have player control have a say in where Sonic goes from a spring.
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>>386394712
I really like that new model for Chaos.
Too bad the game will probably be shit.
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>>386394480
This leak.
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Taxman here, the game is a scam. Iizuka is now holding my family hostage and the .exe is just a Forces teaser. Please help me before it's t
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>>386394192
Today I will remind them.
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>>386394589
No I mean what the fuck is there to leak? Oh, you can play as shadow, whatever.
This is as stupid as those pansies who would cry about Smash Bros leaks. Bitch please.
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>>386394942
you just got ripped sprites and pasted them on. and you used the same ones. 0 creativity here
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>>386394640
We're getting there, so close yet so far.
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>>386394826
stop posting this shit, no one cares
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>>386394997
>No I mean what the fuck is there to leak?
Uh, everything about the game?
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>>386394902
Haven't busted this bad boy out in a while.

A+
>Emerald Hill
- My favorite intro level in the entire series. It gets a lot of flak for being a Green Hill clone but I find it couldn't play farther from. Green Hill focuses on allowing the player to build speed once they've learned to time their jumps and rolls through the stepped hills and slopes. Its the best designed zone from the first game with exploration kept local to the main paths. Emerald Hill instead grants speed off the bat and opts to penalize the yet unfamiliar for running blind with zone hazards and badniks, keeping a more open air design with fewer nooks.
>Chemical Plant
Remember when I said Green Hill had decently lineated main paths with exploration kept sort of in the immediate vicinity off in nooks and such? Chemical plant is that design philosophy perfected. God damned near perfect zone.
>Hydro City
Amazing sound track, great sections of speed, fantastic exploration. The best showcase of high path/low path penalty/reward dichotomy in the series. Amazing zone.
>Flying Battery
I love Wing Fortress but find it lacking in areas. It feels under cooked a bit. I love Metropolis but it can be a bit rough on the edges. Flying battery is the best design elements of both with a heap of polish added, a phenomenal theme song, and great bosses.

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>Green Hill
>Starlight
>Aquatic Ruin
>Casino Night
>Mystic Cave
>Metropolis
>Ice Cap
>Mushroom Hill
>Death Egg (3&K)

B
>Scrap Brain
>Hill Top
>Wing Fortress
>Angel Island
>Launch Base
>Palmtree Panic
>Stardust Speedway

C
>Marble
>Spring Yard
>Oil Ocean
>Sky Chase
>Marble Garden
>Lava Reef
>Hidden Palace
>Sky Sanctuary
>Collision Chaos
>Tidal Tempest

D
>Labyrinth
>Carnival Night
>Metallic Madness
>Sandopolis

F
>Wacky Workbench

Final Bosses:
>S3 Big Arms > Death Egg Robot (3&K) > Death Egg Robot (2) > Final Zone > Doomsday Zone > Metallic Madness

Special Stages:
>Sonic 3&K > S1 > S2 > SCD

Overall:
>S3&K = S2 > S1 > SCD
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Reminder anybody who tells you that Sonic Mania isn't the real Sonic 4 is just trying to get under your skin. Episode I was just a half-assed mobile game, and Episode II forced them to try and bullshit a plot only to have to cancel the series before they could even give it a conclusion
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>>386394826
I'm afraid the mere mention of Utopia makes me angry.
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>>386394942
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>>386395065
Yeah, people need to stop posting obvious fake leaks unlike mine.
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>>386395095
Every thread until you like it
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>>386395193
>not nigger sonic
fake news
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TORRENT FUCKING WHEN
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>>386394826
Sure
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>>386395327
There have been worse shitposters since I quit tomfagging. This is a message to all of you: fuck you. Posting the same pasta/autistic image and putting it as a "daily reminder" or anything like that is annoying and literally doesn't contribute to the thread.
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I really wish people would be responsible and stop posting terrible fakes. Here, have a glimpse of one of the classic stages as compensation.
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>>386394826
Yeah, ESPECIALLY for that Utopia hub world.
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>>386395389
You will buy the game
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>>386395389
People like you should painfully burn in the Hell.
>>386395479
>not Blue Nigger Uncle Chucklefuck
At least you tried.
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So how would a 3&K sprite Sonic fit in Mania if they gave us the option to use whichever? Would it be jarring like a Sonic 2 sprite in 3C?
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>>386395565
Sorry, anon, but he's in another castle
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>>386395475
>Tomfag telling literally anyone else to stop doing anything
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One of these "leaks" is real. That's all I'll say for now.
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im the real tax man
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is it wrong if i torrent the game if it leaks early,
but buy it once it comes out
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>>386395567
There is nothing jarring about Sonic 2 in 3C. It's just contrary to what you're used to. Likewise, 3's Sonic sprite would be fine (as fine as that shit sprite can be anyway) in Mania.
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>>386395712
You're full of shit, my dude. All of them are real.
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Will the real Taxman please stand up?
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>>386395712
Don't listen to him. I am Christian Whitehead's evil brother, Jewish Blackhead, and the only leak that's real is the Nigger Sonic leak
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Where are the leaks
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>>386395774
I already have it preordered on Xbox One. I just want the PC version to datamine.
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>>386395774
They're still getting your money at the end of the day, so I suppose not.

I'm tempted to download a torrent if it comes out early, but I feel like it'd be a bad idea, especially because I'm waiting on the collector's edition.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQOGPjg7Tu0
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>>386395843
Of course. Do you have any questions?
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>>386395843
You all act like you've never seen a Whitehead before.
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>>386395795
No, I'm the real Taxman and Iizuka has chained me to a wall, he can't let anyone but him finish the game, he's completely taking over the project! Send help asap!
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leak: BRAAAAAAAAAAAP
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These impostors are full of shit. The only thing real is the Switch physical release.
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>>386395847
>Christian Whitehead's evil brother, Jewish Blackhead
My sides
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NO WAY! NO WAY! NO WAY! NO WAY! NO WAY! NO WAY!
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>>386395843
Now this looks like a job for me
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>>386395847
>blackhead
gross
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>>386395843
I am The Taxman!
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>>386395903
thanks for the song m8
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>>386396052
No, I am the Taxman!
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Aw yeah, fagits, I just prevented the Death Egg from launching in Sonic 3, I'm the best.
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>>386396261
You ever play Pac-Man? Well, you've played Taxman without even knowing.
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>>386395130
I agree with this almost completely
I'd move Sky Sanctuary up 1 or 2 and Marble Garden and Death Egg 3&K down one each.
But that's pretty all I'd change.
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>>386396341
But my mother was on the Death Egg!
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>>386396527
Your mother was a filthy robot then, robot son.
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>>386394192
>Review codes have been sent out, watch yourselves for leaks.
FUCKING SOURCE? i already bought the game, fucking leak it review fags
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>>386394826
Definitely. The level creator is completely unrealistic though but I'd still buy it even without that.
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SONIC DIES
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>>386396608
You take that back asshole!
My mother was a beautiful android!
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So, everyone beat all the Classic games no problem, but let's step up. How many of you unlocked the Sonic 3 ALONE Sound Test/Level Select menu using the up up down down up up up code?
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>>386396735
QUICK, CALL A PRINCESS TO KISS HIM
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HA LONG TIME NO SEE TAXMAN
MY LOATHSOME COPY
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>>386396735
How did you get this leak
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>>386396859
I did it ONCE.
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>>386396735
I can confirm this
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>>386396859
You just made 10-year old me furious
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>This thread
What happened
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Don't tell Stealth I showed you guys this.
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>>386396842
>Eggman propaganda
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good thread OP, or should I say, TAXMAN?
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>they put in green hill zone instead of the superior emerald hill

Why does every game do this?
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>>386394882
Is that what happens when you stack multiple &KNUCKLES cartridges on top of each other?
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>>386397127
>superior emerald hill
>superior
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>>386397223
All those Knuckles and they still can't protect the emeralds.
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>>386396859
I used to do it all the time. It would take a few tries each time but I still did it pretty often.
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>>386397223
There's not enough Knucles in the title screen, /v/, better fix it before Mania comes out.
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>>386397007
>posting the shitty edit
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GUYS
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>>386397038
>not wanting a badnik waifu with fully functional female reproductive system
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>>386396842
Maybe if Eggman turned all animals into fuckable robots people wouldn't be against him. Instead he just turns them into snails and shit.
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>>386397554
all shitposting aside, that recolor's pretty cool
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>>386396261
Kirby/Tax Man crossover when?
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>>386397621
what a cute badnik
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>>386397621
>implying Eggman has gotten close enough to a woman to know what a vagina feels and looks like
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>>386395130
>>Flying Battery
>I love Wing Fortress but find it lacking in areas. It feels under cooked a bit. I love Metropolis but it can be a bit rough on the edges. Flying battery is the best design elements of both with a heap of polish added, a phenomenal theme song, and great bosses.

Whilst I see where you come from, I do think Wing Fortress is thematically the stronger stage. There's something inherently cool about infiltrating a massive, imposing airship, rolling over the slick design against the wind current.

Whereas I feel Flying Battery feels a bit like you skipped over most of the cool bits. Yeah, you're still infiltrating, but it doesn't have that same sense of scale due most of it already being inside.

If anything, the two zones would compliment each other greatly. Wing Fortress as Act 1, Flying Battery as Act 2.
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>>386394419
None of that shit matters to companies, just to you.

To companies its free advertising. It costs them nothing and they can potentially get millions of eyeballs. How dumb are you?
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>>386397874
Shut the fuck up Anon. Of course Eggman has been with women before. Her name is Madonna and she's drop dead gorgeous. She thinks I'm the hottest man in the world, egg shape and all. Do you even have a 300 IQ? I don't think so. kys
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>>386397621
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>leaks are entirely possible
>anything from the game could show up, even the final boss or a new character
>only thing i care about is the possibility of hydrocity leaking

WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME
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>>386398025
I just want to know if they didn't fuck up the Metal Sonic boss battle
I know it's in here
There's literally not a single chance it's NOT here
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LEAKERS FUCKING LEAK SOMETHING GOD DAMN. What's the point of having a review code if you aren't gonna leak anything?
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>>386397621
Alright, we're doing this then. Everybody pick a Badnikfu
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>>386398236
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>>386394192
At least credit @Tracker_TD for his art.
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>>386398140
There are plently of leaks in this thread alone.
However, I cannot tell you which ones are real.
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>>386397928
Yeah that would be really cool. I agree with you completely.
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>>386398325
t. Tracker
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>>386398325
oh i trakker
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>>386398236
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>>386398467
>>386398505
You thinky I'm Tracker

But am actually EAP

Tracker is IP banned I think.
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>>386398648
>Tracker is IP banned I think.
Why the fuck?
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>>386398236
I like bees, they're cute.
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>>386398325
Fuck Tracker he's a cunt
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OH SHIT BROS
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Why are you guys still here when there could be a major leak and literally any moment now?
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>>386398732
Fake leaks got him banned, or something like that. Not sure really, go ask him.
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>>386398739
How does one fuck a buzz bomber?
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>>386398805
>Implying I'm not anticipating the leaks
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>>386398805
It's almost like some people don't care about leaks.
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>>386398236
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>>386398849
Stick your dick in the stinger. Ignore the pain, think of the fame.
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>>386398774
Fuck off, Lang.
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>>386398774
Who the fuck is that
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>>386398739
https://youtu.be/8CvqmD0CZao
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>>386398236
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>>386398236
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>>386398739
So does Amy. Well boom amy at least.
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>>386398849
Like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1RYSy55KtA
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>>386398236
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Do you think Robotnik uses badniks scrapped by Sonic as ona holes?
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>>386399246
No need.
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>>386398315
This worthless Badnik is going to kill all the games "journalists" out there and they're all going to shit on Mania for it. Be prepared for a Jim Sterling piece on how enemies are bad level design.

Ride on, Moto Bug, ride on.
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>>386398236
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>>386399432
>that chin

Jesus fucking christ. Why does he look like Floe?
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>>386398236
Always felt bad about killing this dude, 'cause he's like riding his mother's back but now the mother is all alone
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>>386399582
That issue had great art.
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>>386399496
Friendly reminder:
>Sonic and Mario's sprites are roughly the same size
>Mario moves faster
>Both use a fixed camera
>Sonic is bad game design though because his sprite is unusually large, moves too fast, and uses a fixed camera
>Mario is GOAT of all time game design because his sprite is literally the perfect size, his speed is just right, and the flawless camera logic used in SMBW is thesis worthy.
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Leaked game when?
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>>386398236
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>>386399991
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>>386398236
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>>386400245
Just pulled images off the internet. Chillax bruh.

I exclusively use CRT filters ;)
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>>386395389
I do not condemn piracy since I pirate games myself, but if you like the game please consider buying it
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Why was Sonic always so popular in the UK
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>>386399991
SMB3 > SMW
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>>386399991
Mario's jumps are more reliable, his speed is more controllable, and the SNES doesn't have BLAST PROCESSING so its scrolling is inhibited slightly.
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>>386399991

What's funny is that Sonic has a larger field of view due to the Genesis superior resolution
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come on, can someone just leak already? I know there's at least one guy here that has a review code
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>>386400365
>that writing
>reddit spacing
>text faces
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>>386400374
SEGA beat Nintendo to the punch in Europe. SEGA managed to make a deal with Virgin to get both the Mega Drive and Master System out in Europe before Nintendo could dominate that region too. Nintendo didn't manage to get the NES into Europe until 1988, and SNES was a year behind America with a 1992 release. By that time Sonic 1 had already taken Europe and especially the UK by storm, and even beat Super Mario Bros 3 to the punch. (Released months after Sonic 1 in Europe)
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>>386400576
What seems to be the matter, chum? :O
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>>386400438
>Mario's jumps are more reliable
>his speed is more controllable
Wrong and wrong.
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>>386400576
>reddit spacing

>actually being a thing

hownew

.

ru
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>>386400757
Sonic's jumps are influenced by the terrain and he skids slightly/slows gradually whereas SMW Mario turns on a dime. This isn't really a subject of debate, and I like both games.
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>>386400757
I can see what he means. Mario stops on a dime and Sonic doesn't. The hitch is that Sonic isn't designed to stop on a dime, he's designed to roll on a dime which is a much more powerful tool overall and acts as a hazard dodge the same way instantly stopping does.
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IGN Reviewer here. My name is Mark Mothersbaugh, and I'd like to show you hidden Sonic Mania content here and now. Stay silent, 4channers!
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>>386400914
There are more variables, that doesn't make them less reliable or less controllable. It's just more complex. If you take the time to learn the games the jumping and movement are every bit as predictable as Mario's.
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>>386400971
So he meant Mario's jumping and speed are more newbie friendly? Because that's not what he typed.
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>>386394826
fuck no
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>>386400702
Not only that but rather than in America where the Genesis was aimed at teens, MegaDrive and Sonic was aimed at adults. Most of the adults who bought the Mega Drive would also be parents, so they would also be getting it for their kids. More kids that way would play Sonic, and the playground kids would all agree Sonic is better than Mario.
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Hi guys
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BURNING RANGERS
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>>386401443
Could this be anymore jpg?
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>>386401620
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>>386401620
WE NEED TO GO EVEN FURTHER.
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>>386401767
>>386401909
I feel like if you put enough compression into these it'll become Mario somehow
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>>386401909
THE JA PEGGIEST JAY PEG
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>>386401909
Save it as a 16-bit .bmp and convert it back to .jpeg pls
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Guys? I preordered my CE last year, but the status is "currently unavailable and doesn't have an estimated date of arrival. I'm scared I won't get my copy on release.
Wat do?
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>>386398236
I've always loved the Orbinauts, they're cute. I think my favorite version is the one from Launch Base Zone since they move when Sonic does & take advantage of the insta-shield but I only have this new one on me which is a close second.
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>>386401059
>IGN
stopped reading there
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>>386402061
Buy it on Steam just to be safe.
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>>386402007
how deep does this hedgehog hole go?
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Is it even possible to die in CD? I'm generally pretty awful at this series but CD has been giving me literally zero problems. Also, while I get and think it's neat how the game is more geared towards exploration, my main problem with it so far is that the exploration is basically just "go to the past, find the generator" and then hold right through the rest of the level since the level design otherwise is pretty meh.
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https://twitter.com/GreatLange/status/894074761424261120
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>>386402248
NOT
DEEP
ENOUGH
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>>386394826
Honestly it would be the greatest thing ever. Especially if Utopias camera controls were fixed
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>>386402172
I could. But my inner scrooge says that double-dipping on the same platform is effectively autism.
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>>386394712
chaos looks so good. is tikal gonna be in this
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>>386402061
>tfw mine is being dispatched on the 12th and arrives on release day
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>>386394712
>>386394927

Seriously, that Chaos model is fucking grand.

I haven't been keeping up with Forces much. I guess a bunch of past villains are returning and there's a character creator? Have they shown the creator yet?
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>>386402248
Not deep enough, you can still make out the question mark on Sonic Mania Tails' tails.

>>386402365
Nevermind.
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>>386402393
Follow your autism and ignore your soul. It worked for me.
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>>386394192
>8 days
>PC Collectors Edition from Amazon has no delivery estimate yet
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>>386402259
If you're not a physics autist CD might not be for you. Also the game doesn't get challenging until the Wacky Workbench-Metallic Madness stretch, and even then you shouldn't die too much.
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>>386394826
get rid of level creator, utopia and make it 40 bucks
your proposal is currently shit as it stands
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>>386394640

Reminder that this countdown is tied to the PSN release. According to past posts, Playstation titles that can be pre-loaded are released at midnight, so that's when we are getting Mania there.

However, the Steam release will be at the 15th - EST afternoon, not at midnight. You can verify this by checking the Asian markets release which is listed at the 16th (pic related).

Therefore, Playstation users will be able to play the game for about 12 hours before PC users.
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>>386402456
Only early on. There are a few different weapon types and character species give different ability modifiers.
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>>386402447
>dispatched
Fucking Urop.
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NEW STAGE
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>>386402490
I have a Switch. Might just get it there, once it drops on the eShop.
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>>386402627
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>>386402627
SONY WINS AGAIN!!!!!!
>>
Let's get the bad news out of the way first: the quasi-3D Special Stages from Sonic 3 & Knuckles are back, and they're not better than ever. Sonic Mania classifies these as Bonus Stages, or 'Blue Spheres' - a reference to the core mechanic that has Sonic snagging all the floating blue orbs that dot the horizon of these spherical, wrap-around pocket dimensions. The problem with these Bonus Stages is immediately apparent: the finicky controls, which are a little too faithful to the originals. Nudging Sonic (or Tails, or Knuckles) left and right causes the entire perspective to make a hard 90 degree turn, and the constantly shifting viewpoint is downright nauseating. Problem is, you're going to need to turn on a dime extremely often if you want to clear these stages successfully, because every blue sphere turns red once you've touched it - and as you probably guessed, making contact with a red orb results in instant failure.
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>>386402627
PC fags BTFO
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>>386402627
>tfw pre-ordered on both PS4 and PC
I'm fucking covered, bois.
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>>386402837
I got gud as a kid back then and beat them all. What's the problem?
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>>386402161
;_;
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>>386402061

Where'd you order from? My Amazon doesn't have a date yet but says:

"We need a little more time to provide you with a good estimate. We'll notify you via e-mail as soon as we have an estimated delivery date."

I think it'll be fine unless they don't actually get stock by release.
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>>386402935
Reviewers are garbage at video games, news at 11.
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>>386402903

for what purpose
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>>386402974
Same as you, Amazon. I got that same message.
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>>386403053
For the themes and discount, m80.
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>>386402627
can mania be pre-loaded on PS4?
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>>386402365

YOU CALL THIS DEEP?
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>>386402935
that's from the same site that started the "crash HD is dark souls" shit
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>>386403128

...yeah but why twice? pick one, there's no difference.
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>>386402627
>TFW Switch store page isn't even up yet
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>>386403308
To own it on multiple systems, duh.
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>>386403183
DO YOU CALL THAT DEEP? THIS IS DEEP
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>>386403374

ok
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>>386403385
8 BIT
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>>386403330
sauce?
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>>386403308
Not him but I'm getting it on PS4 for trophies and Switch for portable play.

>>386403330
This pissed me off to no end. I didn't think Nintendo could make a worse eShop than the Wii U one but somehow they managed.
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>>386403487
4 BIT
>>
I've never really played CD all that much. What exactly is so bad about Wacky Workbench?
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>>386403564
Alfredo
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>>386403575
2 BIT
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>>386403385

NO, THIS IS DEEP, YOUR DEEP IS NOT DEEP ENOUGH
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>>386403604
You bounce everywhere because of a bullshit stage gimmick where the floor electrifies itself causing you to do a fucking moon jump. That and the worst level layout of the whole fucking game.
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>>386403564
That's it.
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>>386403631
Don't be a cheeky cunt.
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>>386403604
>The floor is super bouncy, sending you flying super fucking high into the air
>Also in the upper regions of the level there's an electric wire that activates every so often
>There's so much fucking shit in the way that traversing the level is a chore
>Finding Act 1's Robot Generator

It's garbage
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deepest lore
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>>386402627
>tfw preordered Mania on the PS4 for the cool avatars
>get to play it day 1 midnight as well
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Post a single Sonic soundtrack funkier than this one I fucking dare you, you can't
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>>386394391
https://youtu.be/4ZhVFIH15CM
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>>386403910
Link was so funky that I dropped it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjb2asrjv-o
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>>386403713
YOU KNOW NO SHIT SON
THIS IS DEEP ON ITS ULTIMATE FORM
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>>386403983

Pretty sure this is the deepest deep possible.
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>>386403981
WORK THAT SUCKA TO DEATH C'MON NOW
WORK THAT SUCKA TO DEATH
WORK THAT SUCKA TO DEATH C'MON NOW
WORK THAT SUCKA TO DEATH
WAY PAST COOL
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>>386403136
The 13th.
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>>386403647
1 BIT
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>>386403910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNo2bbzJPCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6TtXKVLYg
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>>386404138
HALF BIT
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>>386404138
HALF BIT
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>>386400431
SMB2 USA >SMBW> SMB3
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>>386404132
well shit, time to buy mania on PS4 i guess
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>>386404049
No. Pic related is.
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>>386403983
So this
this is true beauty
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>>386403983

I can't see shit, maybe less deeper?
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>>386404146
I'm not big on Get Edgy but damn if that Hard-Boiled Heavies theme isn't a solid contender. The music of Mania is shaping up to be something else.
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>>386399991
>GOAT of all time
>greatest of all time of all time

lmfao
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>>386403910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOjtqtidvzs&t=69s
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>>386404257
lolno
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>>386404514
In SMB2 USA you pick up a vegetable and it turns into a rocket. That alone makes it the best game ever.
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>>386404368
If you don't like it then you aren't into art whatsoever.
>>
To make matters even more frustrating, orbs are positioned in ways that often turn the slightest screw-up or miscalculation into guaranteed death. Once you've formed a closed loop of orbs, all the orbs contained in your path turn to rings, which you'll need to pick up if you want a perfect score and the Gold Medallion it bestows (no word on what those actually do just yet). To convolute things even further, you can also jump - which you'll need to do (while silently praying for survival) whenever you've trapped yourself in a minefield of red orbs. Worst of all, you have no way of quickly retrying a Bonus Stage should you fail, as their portals only spawn above checkpoints when you first make contact.
Long story short, the Bonus Stages suffer from the worst flaws of many platformer's bonus bits: instead of testing your mastery over the core game mechanics, they saddle you with an unfamiliar, uncomfortable control scheme in the name of gimmicky presentation. Fortunately, you likely won't need any Gold Medallions (or the Silver Medallions you get for simply completing a Bonus Stage) to score Sonic Mania's assortment of Chaos Emeralds, which will no doubt be a prerequisite for the best ending. Those are found in the Special Stages, which are infinitely more enjoyable than their Bonus cousins.
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>>386404212
>>386404213
QUARTER BIT
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>>386402627

Eshop as well

looks like I'm buying the switch version too
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>>386404368
WE MUST GO FORWARD, NOT BACKWARD
DEEPER, NOT SHALLOWER
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
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>>386404447
Good work. Now try DC comics!
>>
Know if we can change some of the music in the game? Want to play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC0hV3dea9g for the UFO missions
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>>386404709
Does this fucker just have no hand-eye coordination?
>>
The great debate.
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>>386404745

BUT THERE'S NO DEEPER TO GO NOW, HOW CAN WE GO FORWAND THEN
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>>386404982

SEGA fucked up by not doing what Konami did
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>>386404709
Shut the FUCK up ExoParadigmGamer.
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>>386404982
It's really not a debate. You would have to be a stroke victim to prefer the US soundtrack.
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This is a chill thread so post chill sonic tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9lP4w7zrI
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>have to wait 9 more days until i can hear the fucking miniboss theme without sound effects

FUCK
>>
Whats your opinions on the 8-bit Sonic games?
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>>386395787
I don't understand why people don't like the Sonic 3 sprite. I always thought the old sprite looked too angry/serious for Sonic.
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>>386405085
He liked Blue Spheres though. Also you're the first person I've ever seen mention him here, so I'm going to have to assume you're him now.
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>>386405105
Stroke victim here, ask me anything.
>>
>Never played a Sonic game
>Actually excited about Sonic Mania
Might play 2 or 3 & Knuckles. Which one would you say is a better experience? Some say 2 is better level design but worse bonus stage.
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>>386405387
Which soundtrack do you prefer?
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>>386404709
I got all the super emeralds when I was 6. These new ones must be hard as fuck.

I mean, he can't be THAT bad, right?
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>>386405387
Sonic 2 sprite or Sonic 3 sprite?
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>>386405437
Play them both. Most people prefer 3&K (myself included) but 2 is great as well, it's just a different kind of presentation.1 isn't really that fun though.
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>>386405323
The dude's post was like an all stars collection of EPG quotes. Mostly the bitching about how punishing failure is in Sonic. But yeah he mostly laid those complaints on in his S2 review.
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>>386405515
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>>386404982
JP every time. This ain't a debate, m8.
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>>386405387
US.
I'm not actually a stroke victim. I just like US more than JP, although I love both.

>>386405515
I really love that one mixed sprite one anon made of both 2 and 3&K, that looks great. I'm fine with both sprites, but I don't like the color palette on 2's so much. Here's how I'd rank the classic sprites:

Mania > 3&K > 2 > 1/CD
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>>386405437
Play the Sonic 3 Complete romhack
And the Sonic 2 ios remake
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>>386405387
>>386405678
>>386405447
god dammit got the quotes wrong
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>>386403330

It is on the JP store
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>>386405623
The US boss theme scared me so much as a kid.

PAL Gems collection has the American soundtrack for some reason Inb4 underage, Gems collection is 12 years old
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzH2-Gkikzc
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Confession time:

I feel Sonic Generations had a better designed Sky Chase Zone than S3&K.
>>
Confess your classic sins.
I've beat Sonic 1 and 3&K, but not 2 because I got bored of waiting for the Death Egg Robot to become touchable and risking having to do the entire thing all over again.
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>>386405437
Play both. They're both great games in their own right.
The best way to play Sonic 2 is the mobile remake. If you can't do that, play Sonic Classic Heroes.
Sonic 3& Knuckles was never remade, so get Sonic 3 Complete.
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>>386405990
Well it helps that Sky Sanctuary is probably the best Classic level in that game. So many alternate pathways.
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>>386405994
I have considered looking for a romhack of 3&K that reverts the sprites back to the old Sonic look.
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>>386405994
I've never collected all emeralds in S3&K without save states.
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>>386405990
>Sky Chase Zone
>S3&K.
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>>386405994
I never beat Sonic 2 with all the Emeralds legit, I always used the level select cheat then the all Emeralds cheat. Should I redeem myself?
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>>386406148
You mean like this? http://www.s3complete.org/customiser/
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>>386404982
Overall, the JPN, but I think the USA version has some great tracks in there.
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>>386406083 WE ALREADY TOLD YOU TO STOP, WHY ARE YOU DOING IT AGAIN?!
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>>386403981
Not even the funkiest in the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9bN8JBwk_s
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>>386405990
sky sanctuary was kind of a throwaway easy act in the original game, like a victory lap i guess

also your statement will probably be true for most remixed zones in mania
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>>386406083
Its a fly Badnik.
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>>386406074
>>386405683
What is bad about the normal Genesis game? That's what I have. And what is really improved with 3 Complete? Now I wondering too much on just wanting to just play a simple 16 bit game.
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>>386405793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcwyDL3-Qqo
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>>386402627
Thanks for letting me know to not go on /v/ for all next week
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>>386405994
I never beat Sonic 1 or 2, and never played CD, despite owning CD on the Action Pack for PC. I even played R to completion on that pack
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>>386406229
it's feasible now with the taxman mobile remake. you keep emeralds earned after beating the game and you can restart special stages if you feel like you're not going to get all the Rings
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>>386406298
These are Sonic 3 Complete features? I'm sold, I'm a 2/CD fag who has yet to beat 3&K all the way through but haven't finished the recent run I started yet. I might finish the game vanilla before Complete as was recommended but I'm tempted to jump ship now.
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>>386406545
Yeah the S3 Complete customizer can change the hack to meet any specific autistic need you have.
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>>386406209
Same. Special stages are gimmicky trash and add nothing of value to the base game. S3&K's are my favorite but even then I don't like the blue ball gimmick
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>>386406479
Sonic R is better than CD.

LIVIN' IN THE CITY
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>>386405994
Metropolis is my favorite Sonic 2 zone. I've never had any trouble with the stage, even when I was younger. Even now I can just boot up the stage and run through without any problems.

I'll agree some of the enemy placement isn't that solid but it's not as cancer as some people say it is. Fuck the boss, though.
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>>386405126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON1_geFiP5s
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>>386406628
>>386406209
I felt Sonic 1 weird maze thing was the best of the bunch.
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>>386406545
These are customization options you can apply on top of the S3 Complete hack that they couldn't fit on the ROM itself. You can get the base version of the ROM at the mainpage on http://www.s3complete.org/ which still has a ton of customization options.
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>>386406729
What is the strategy for the boss even meant to be? To this day, I just abuse the ring system.
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>>386405126 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3oZhEL2F_s&t
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>>386406689
Well, shit, you made me remember another sin.

I fapped to her feet
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>>386403981
This is why I've been waiting since for fucking ever for the miniboss theme in Mania to be dropped.
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>>386405126
This sounds like Rayman 1 music.
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>>386406820
I dunno, I mostly just jump at the fucker until he's dead, or Super Sonic if that's an option.
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>>386406745
NOW LET'S RAMP IT UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRcR0v6I_w8
name a more kino song in sonic, pro tip: you can't
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>>386405387

What's in the hole?
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>>386406841
>sin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HopqiEVabw4
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>>386406987
Play the game and find out, I don't feel like making fake leaks______________________________________________________________________________________________________
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv7ywWsAWyg
THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING SONG IN ALL OF THE GAMES AND I NEED IT IN MANIA COME ON TAXMAN I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK
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>>386407108
me a be agreeing blacky bruddha
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I hope we another robot sonic for Sonic to fight this time, BUT it's a female robot Sonic!
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>>386405994
I never got the Super Emeralds in 3&K because I think Hyper Sonic is pointless.

I never played through any of the games as Knuckles.
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>There are people who recommend newcomers to do S3Complete before they do Vanilla

You people should be gassed
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>>386407469
Well he is. Super Sonic is the canon ending. Hyper's fun to fuck around as though

Knuckles was the only way I can beat Sonic 3&K as a kid without debug. So in a way I'm kind of really excited to play as him in Mania because he was one of my favorites as a kid
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>>386407469
Not getting the hyper emeralds is the best way to play the game IMO. You still get to play Doomsday and get the good ending and Hyper Sonic really sucks the fun out of the game.
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>>386407542
is there any reason to do vanilla first?
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>>386407701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pux2TNnKuw4
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>>386405994
i dont think sonic 1 is a good game and i only beat it once on the phone port just to get it over with
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>>386395847

I come from the future, my name is Marth. I came here to stop your lies. You cause the total dishonesty of game companies in the future with your little "clever" lie. Cease this tomfoolery.
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>>386405994
Sonic 1 is my favorite game
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>>386406209
I thought I was the only one.
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>>386395847
>>386407974
>>386407981
I don't care if you are Christian Whitehead, I'm still calling you Namefags.
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>>386407701
Vanilla is the canon game. It's basically the same autism that goes into the Star Wars Special Editions

S3C is a more fun and in-depth experience that lets you customize the game to your liking. Most of the changes though I feel are something only Sonic fans can really appreciate, they would be minor to someone who doesn't give a fuck you can play with Sonic 1 physics

I think it mainly started as a music hack that got feature overload
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>>386405994
After maxing out all save files in Sonic 1 taxman version I've concluded I don't really like the game all that much. CD, 2, and 3K are all good though.
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>>386407693
>Not saving the last super emerald for Lava Reef
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>>386407542
Yeah really, absolute dipshits.
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>>386408176
This is my exact opinion and experience except Sonic 1 and CD are switched.
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>>386408087
THE BUBBLESHIELD REACTS TO THE IDLE ANIMATION. I QUIT. THIS GAME IS GONNA BE TOO GOOD
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>>386407701

You cant appreciate complete and it's customization unless you go through Vanilla first.

Otherwise, what the fuck are you customizing for?
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>>386408314
Oh well I don't like you very much then.
>>
I left the project a long time ago. You fuckers are screwed.
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>>386408314

Don't worry anon. This fag >>386408425 is in the minority, we still love you. They're just very fucking vocal and won't learn to shut the fuck up.
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>>386408524

We got Stealth. I don't honestly think we need you other than marketing purposes.
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>>386408635

Lol nope nigger
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>>386408087
S3C IS at the moment the definitive edition of S3&K, its like saying people should play the original sega cd version of sonic cd because its "vanilla" while a much better version exists

S3C leaves most of the game the same (if you dont fuck around with the settings) and will probably give newcomers a smoother first time experience

>>386408405
You don't have to customize anything to enjoy it, I mostly play it for the qol changes and it adding big arm back
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>>386405994
I REEE internally every time I see Sonic's CD assets (jump SFX, figure 8 dash) used in a romhack.
I've never gotten Super Sonic in Sonic 2 legitimately.
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>>386408690
What alterations does S3C have over the original in terms of pure gameplay? Most of the changes to the base game just turn shit back to the Sonic 3 layouts, which you can play vanilla 3 for

You say it like S3C makes S3&K unplayable like Taxman's CD remake does. 2011 CD has shit like 60 FPS and widescreen and fixing collision detection bugs to make the game play smoother, does S3C have that? Even so, S1 and S2 aren't suddenly unplayable just because Taxman's versions exist too
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>>386394826
>level creator
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>>386405994
I enjoyed Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis
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>>386408690

S3C and CD 2011 are not even comparable to what they bring to the table. Sega CD version had some significant drawbacks that just makes it a chore to go back to with its crap load times and poor performance.
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>>386409109
I too love the Genesis version of Sonic 1. It is much better than the Master System one
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>>386409109
No you didn't.
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>>386402903
>i preordered a video game
>i preordered it on two consoles at the same time
I want to fucking murder you
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>>386409109
Why do we even call it Sonic Genesis? I know it's called that on the boxart, but wouldn't calling it Sonic GBA make more sense?
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>>386405994

Marble Garden is my favorite Sonic zone of all time
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>>386409304
He did literally nothing wrong in this case.
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>>386405994

I enjoyed Shadow the Hedgehog
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>>386405994
Marble is my favorite Sonic zone of all time
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>>386407625
Knuckles' lower jump height is just really off-putting to me. That's why I never picked him in Sonic 3&K.
I had fun playing as him in Sonic 2, but the Death Egg Robot feels impossible to hit with those low jumps, so I gave up.
Hopefully I'll actually finish a Knuckles run when Mania comes out.
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>>386409492
>Shadow the Hedgehog
>classic
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>>386408918
>What alterations does S3C have over the original in terms of pure gameplay?
The best improvement for me is mapping the super transformation to its own button so I can still use the insta-shield without having to skip the emeralds.
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>>386399991
>filters
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OH SHIT SOMEONE WITH A REVIEW COPY POSTED A LEAK
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>>386409541
Knuckles utterly trounces Sonic 2 except for the final boss, it's almost poetic

>>386409589
I seriously don't know if the standard newcomer would come to appreciate that on their first go through. Again, I feel like that's a veteran change because most newcomers would still be trying to get used to Blue Sphere and the Insta-Shield to begin with
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>>386409565

I missed the classic part

Shadow the Hedgehog came out over 10 years ago
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>>386409541

>He doesn't know how to play the long game and get a 2 hit glide combo

Git Gud son
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>>386409627
>images pulled from google to make a quick and easy point
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>>386405994
I adore Sonic 3K's Sonic design because it made him look slightly older and fiercer to the point where I dislike any of his other classic 2D designs.
I dislike Sonic CD despite having never played it primarily due to its clusterfuck design.
I'm salty that the insta-shield was dropped in favor of the drop dash. The hit confirm of an insta-shield always felt so satisfying.
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>>386409954
>not making your own images
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>>386410091
literally the worst taste imaginable
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>no workshop support
dropped
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>>386403564
Gerph my friendo.
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>>386402627
>mfw If I didn't choose to get the PS4 version.
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>>386405994
I don't like blue spheres
I prefer playing with Sonic alone
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>>386410370
Why the fuck would there be workshop support
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>>386409651
FUCKING SWITCH EXCLUSIVE BULLSHIT
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>>386410745
To add nigger sonic
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>>386409727
it doesn't matte if newcomers will notice or not point being is that S3C is the best way to play S3&K right now

besides if taxman were ever to do a port it will probably have most of S3C features minus maybe the unused stuff and the original zone order toggle
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>That CD final boss

That was literally a regular zone boss, what the fuck. I expected a second phase or something but nope, game's over. CD was still pretty fun, but I'd easily put 2 and 3&K above it.
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>>386394192
Looking at the OP and all these spoilers in this thread, you'd have thought leaks were happening.
Would be a shame if I caught someone off guard with "the boys" while they're reading this.
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>>386410849
actually, according to the source, it's xbone exclusive
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>>386410935
You keep The Boys out of this!
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>>386395389
SEGA WILL FUCKING DIE IF YOU DON'T PAY UP GOYIM!!!
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>>386410745
Some other Sonic games on Steam have workshop support. Not adding it to this one is just laziness and should not be excused.
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>>386410897
The final boss was cut.
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>>386410745
i would totally mod mania if it had mod support, adding new zones and new gimmicks to an already robust sonic engine sounds like fun

maybe a couple of years down the line someone will reverse engineer the game and add mod support
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>>386410745
Why wouldn't there be workshop support?
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>>386410745
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=34270
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Rosy's going to be playable, right?
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>>386410897
Bosses are NOT CD's strong point.
The only one worth while is Metal Sonic
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Wait what? I thought there was workshop support. That was the only reason I cared about this shit. What a fucking letdown.
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>>386394826
Sounds great. No need for the 3D demo bit, though as long as it doesn't get in the way, I wouldn't care. Love the idea of Sonic Maker. I'd happily pay 60
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/v/ TOLD ME THERE WAS WORKSHOP SUPPORT WHAT THE FUCK
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>>386411068
no sonic game has official mod support besides that genesis emulator on steam if you want to count that
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>people expecting workshop support
>when other official sega sonic games not on an emulator don't

I legitimately don't know what you dipshits were expecting. That doesn't mean mods won't come.
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>>386411604
Why is that emulation so crap? The sound is fucked and it straight up lags. Can this be fixed?
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>no workshop support
oh now there's no reason not to pirate it
>>
Sonic Forces > this lulsoretro indie garbage
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Workshop support would've been a reason to buy this but now I'm just going to pirate it. Whoever made the decision not to include it is a retard.
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>>386411787
So look around you and tell me what you really see.
I never end and that's the difference in you and me
cuz when your time is up and everything is falling down
It's only me and you, who is gonna save you now?

So look around you and tell me what you really see
You live a lie and that's the difference in you and me
I have the power let me show you what it's all about
It's only me and you, who is gonna save you now?
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>>386411661
>That doesn't mean mods won't come.
Why would it matter? This game is basically just Sonic 1 with new zones. Any mod for Sonic Mania can just be a romhack. There's nothing new here.
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>>386402627
Never been better being a sonybro
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>>386411787
Sonic Mania > Your Sonic Generations mod garbage
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>>386412025
>he doesn't know that sonic mania is basically just a romhack
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>>386411421
>The only one worth while is Metal Sonic

Metal Sonic was the worst one.

I beat that stage without having to deal with him at all.
>>
So why are we excited about this game again?
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>>386411971
>>386412053
>>386412126
here's the (you)s that you so desperately want
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>>386412126
Switch has no games and we need a game
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>>386412198
keep living in your echo chamber sjw scum
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Why are the CD special stages so fucking fun in the port?

Sure there's a lot of UFO fuckery, but I think the stages control pretty well to make up for it. Plus the red and blue time UFO is the ultimate life-safer.
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>>386412126
>sonic
>autism
>people want to be a part of some kind of hype train
mix it all together and you get this
>>
Why did this thread get infested with shite? We were having a good run.
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>no workshop support
Might as well play a romhack instead 2bh.
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>>386411376
JUST BELIEVE, FELLOW ROSYBRO
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>>386412360
>We were having a good run.
"We" was just two people talking to each other about how excited they were. Get out of your fucking echo chamber.
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>>386412347
>>386412473
How can one man be this mad. Even replied to himself
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>>386412360
Because you're a delusional child.
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>>386411376
As a Sonic reskin
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>>386412473
>>386412569
>one minute apart yet again
autism
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>>386412360
The workshop autist is shitting up the thread.
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>>386412612
The whole game is a Sonic reskin.
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>>386412552
>Even replied to himself
This is what I meant by the autistic part.
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>>386412473
"You" are just one person talking to yourself about "muh steam workshop." Get out of your fucking echo chamber.
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>>386411074
What was the real final boss intended to be? I've seen Taxman's cut idea for a real final boss but I didn't know there was one planned for the original release.
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>2017
>literally nothing holding them back
>only include 3 playable characters
Can someone please explain this to me? Because this seems like total lazy bullshit to me.
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>>386409651
______________ha ha
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>>386412739
Gottem
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>>386412778
Autistic would be coming into a thread for a game you don't care about and shitting it up when nothing here negatively affects you. Give me one good reason for it that's not a shitpost answer, you can't.

>>386412818
Check the unique IPs maybe.
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>>386412891
This. Why isn't Amy playable? It would take a day at most to design the sprites.
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>>386412891
>literally nothing holding them back

The fuck are you talking about? They have a small budget and staff.

Don't tell me you're a moron who believes modern technologies have made traditional animation easy as fuck. That shit still ain't automated and never will be.
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>>386412307
>tfw you get the time UFO at <5 sec
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>>386413001
Who said she isn't?
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>>386412891
Because you're spoiled and have been possessed by the notion that quantity is better than quality
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>>386413017
You're delusional if you think these things are hard to make. You seriously believe they only had the budget to include THREE 2D characters? Fucking lol.
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>>386398236
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>>386413073
You're delusional and stupid. Adding a characters takes a day for one experienced person at most.
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>>386413203
Then why don't you do it when it comes out, wise guy?
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>>386413096
You're right

They also had to budget the level design, physics, music, graphics, enemy AI, and playtesting to make sure the game comes out working too!
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>in development for two years
>three characters
Inexcusable.
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>>386413096
Its more about the celebration hence STK, any other characters should and would be unlocks
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>>386413457
>Crying about games on /v/
Inexcusable
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>>386413457
Okay, we get it. You don't like it. No need to make multiple posts about it. I see the poster count not going up when you do.
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>>386413457
Hi workshopfag
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>>386413378
Nevermind the copies of the game that need to be printed, control mapping, packaging, localization...
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>>386413378
>sonic
>enemy ai
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>>386413593
This isn't your echo chamber, redditard.
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>>386413658
You've said "echo chamber" so much in this thread that it's starting to be an echo itself. You clearly don't even know what it means.
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>>386413457
I would prefer three solid characters than like six half assed ones.
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>>386413729
>You clearly don't even know what it means.
Why don't you educate us then, moron?
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>>386413729
That's exactly what echo chamber means though.
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>>386413658
that's all you've got, huh? figures
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>>386413808
Echo chamber is when the majority shouts down any dissenting opinions or arguments that run counter to theirs without thought. The problem with the way you're using the term is that you come into this thread, say absolutely nothing of value and provide no good arguments against the game, and then just expect everybody to hail your non-opinion. It's pure shitposting and not worthy of respect, and pretending otherwise is intellectual dishonesty. If you have an actual, real grievance with the game state it plainly and explain your point like an adult and maybe you will generate discussion that isn't one-sided. Otherwise leave.
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>>386414020
Woah he actually did it
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>>386413457
Could you explain your shitpost, young man?
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>>386414020
read the first three words and then decided reading the rest wasn't worth the energy. yawn.
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>>386411971
Take your you and your solace that SA3 is still never going to happen
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>>386414179
>I can't be wrong as long as I don't process or acknowledge rebuttal
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>>386413457
>>386413658
>>386413729
>>386413910
>>386414020
>>386414108
>>386414121
>>386414179
>>386414216

All of you are retards, buy Sonic Mania releasing August 15th for Nintendo Switch, PS4 and PC
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Are you shitposting master jedi?
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>inb4 amy is dlc
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>>386414352
You want me to preorder it twice?
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>>386414179
I'll never understand you people who think this board is just a toilet for you to piss into endlessly, to the point you need to ruin discussion and threads for other people.
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>>386414352
But where's the torrent???
>>
>>386414352
I'll buy it only if it has Amy.
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>>386414384
As a Sonic reskin
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>>386414352
Why when I can just play the original Sonic for free?
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>>386414352
no lol i'll just pirate
>>
8 DAYS
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>>386414414
that's up to you

>>386414460
off yourself

>>386414486
That's fair I guess

>>386414596
If you think the original sonic and Mania are even close to being the same thing then you must be suffering from severe brain damage
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>>386394192
>watch yourselves
its already too late
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>>386414596
Easy, you just play the original instead. This game obviously doesn't interest you.
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>>386414712
>If you think the original sonic and Mania are even close to being the same thing then you must be suffering from severe brain damage
Sonic Mania has slightly better graphics. That's the only difference.
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>>386414880
I know this is bait but you're purposefully ignoring the fact that there is entire huge areas of level design and secrets that aren't in the original
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>>386414880
Nevermind the cleaner graphics, new levels, 60fps, new story...
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>>386414880
Wow this fucking hurt my physically
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>>386415004
>sonic
>story
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>386414880
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>>386414880
why are the top two so washed out and ugly
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>>386414712
>If you think the original sonic and Mania are even close to being the same thing then you must be suffering from severe brain damage
I want Mania same as anyone else but unless you also think New Super Mario Bros and New Super Mario bros Wii aren't "even close to being the same thing" then you have brain damage because that's basically what the different between 3&K and Mania is.
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>>386415090
Why are you?
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>they both have loops
GOT 'EM
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>>386414880
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>>386415090
The real question is why the fuck Sonic Forces looks like a downgrade from a 6 year old game
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I wanna be Knux and protect emerwods.
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>>386414880
>>386415225
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>>386394826
Doesn't really need the level editor. I'd rather have more hidden bonus content in the hub or something like that.
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>>386394457
>someone might spoil a game that doesn't really even have a story
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>>386415235
probably because it still needs to be optimized for Switch, which is still both inferior hardware and running at 30FPS
that or some designer shitter from SLW is still on the devteam
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>>386415167
No Sonic Mania is basically Super Mario Allstars but if the levels were changed completely from their original forms and then entire new worlds were added on top of that

They are not even close to being the same thing
>>
Knuckles > Miles > Sonic
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>>386415045
Oh sorry, I forgot we're in 2017 where story is supposed to be like novels now
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>>386415319
>Story is the only thing that can be spoiled
The Chemical Plant Zone boss is a round of Dr. Robotniks Mean Bean Machine. See my point?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqeSUE_z23M

Does anyone else think Sonic CD looks better?
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>>386415391
You wish it'd be that easy an answer
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>>386414880
>That's the only difference

Anon, are you feeling okay? Do you need someone to talk to? We're all here for you.
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>>386415004
>60fps
It's always been 60fps though...
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>>386415569
>See my point?
No?
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>>386415569
oh no...
>>
Im thinking about buying it but then I remember I can juet pirate this romhack
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>>386415713
This. Why should I buy a glorified romhack when I can just pirate it?
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>>386415454
i bet you that's why it gets a bad score, besides the "too fast"
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>>386415583
The character model looks way better, and the colors are deeper in CD.

Strangely enough Tails is darker in Mania than in 3&K
>>
If this game actually was released in 1995, than why logically would the Bonus Stage have sprites for characters but the Special Stage have 3D models for characters?
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>>386415583
I too like bringing up contrarian point in threads where the opposite is preferred, great post my friend!
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>>386415713
>>386415774
You're welcome
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>>386415696
You can't see how that would be a cool surprise? You never heard someone say "Don't spoil the surprise."?
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>>386415814
Because that's how it was in 3&k
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>>386415814
Because the devs wanted it that way, so who cares?
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>>386415583
You can think all you want but you're just plain wrong.
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>>386415832
hello shill/echo chamber retard
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>>386415903
I don't like surprises.
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>>386415982
I'm sorry Jim, his diagnosis is Broken Record syndrome. It's terminal.
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>>386395389
Pay for the game, you fucking guy.
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>>386416114 T E R M I N A L 7 L U I G I
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Could there be a sale on other Sonic games on Steam when this comes out?
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>>386416237
Who REALLY died that day? And who came back?
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Newfag here. Is this good?
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>>386416515
Get the Mega Collection Plus instead. I don't know what the fuck Sega was thinking releasing the original
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>>386416515
The game unlocking is a pain in the ass, but yes.
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