Are they hacks?

>>386373325
No. /thread

No, but OP is.

>>386373325
yep

Do you even know what a hack means?
Remove yourself from this board :)

>>386373325
>Strip away parts of your base game
>Give it back to your players later and pretend it's totally free DLC
>Include a cheesy "thank you" note in the box mentioning this act of superb generosity
>A tireless army of shills and marketers is created who believe CDPR are their friends
They have good business sense if not good games.

>>386373395
fpbp

nope, best devs to date.

>>386373565
except all of the free dlc was developed post-launch and you can't disprove it. you're just butthurt hipster trash who gets angry when things get popular.

>>386373565
When will this concept of people liking something being shills disappear?

Is summer almost over yet?

>>386373771
Marxist logic

>>386373564
Did you even follow Gwent development?
>first real multi game they make
>it's a CCG because their shitty Mobile MOBA failed in a week
>release it on THREE platforms at once when they have no experience with games like that at all because why not
>they don't even design the game properly but just copy paste if from W3 only to later realize it needs a lot of reworks (what a surprise)
>rework the game twice when it's supposed to be released this year
>rethaz is stubborn as fuck and doesn't listen to anyone with different opinions
>game is ugly and does not resemble anything from the Witcher lore, only artworks are nice (but pretty artworks are not everything, they literally lack the style/atmosphere the games had and are very generic)
>gameplay quickly gets boring and 99% matches play the same (Win the first round, bleed enemy in second round, bomb them with huge plays in the third)
>waste money on Premiums that take 3 months of human work to make each (officially confirmed)
Not to mention Witcher 3 was a watered down casualized Frankenstein monster and every review on glassdoor talks about terrible management.

>>386373730
>>386373771
Case in point.

>>386373325
still mad, montreal boy?

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>>386373730
>all of the free dlc was developed post-launch
Being this retarded.
>Triss dress was obviously meant for Francesca.
>Ciri costume is on early concept arts, clearly trash model that got replaced later
>Yennefer was either meant for her or other Lodge sorceress
>Quests are obviously cut content
>New Game+
All of that should be part of content patches not shitty PR saying "LOOK WE ARE NOT LIKE EA PLZ BUY OUR GAME".

>>386374141
>obviously this
>obviously that
>proceeds to give zero proof to his claims
gotcha

>>386373325
Bethesda makes open world fantasy game
CDProjekt follows suit

Bethesda makes an online card game
CDProjekt follows suit

Bethesda makes a game with cyberpunk undertones
CDProjekt makes a cyberpunk game (maybe)

They are not hacks but they aren't very imaginative.
Their design philosophy seems to be "Do whatever Bethesda does."

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>>386374598
And they suck at cutscenes.

>>386373325
If they make a good game then no. Till then I don't care about them.

>>386374598
>game with cyberpunk undertones
Is that Fallout 4? Still dreading playing that.

>>386374930
That is one of the few things they are good at.

>>386374141
Source: My loose butthole

>>386373325

Nope but they are going to make the same game for a fourth time

>>386375380
If you seriously believe Triss alternate costume was meant for her you are totally retarded.

>>386374598
Stop bullshitting their design philosophy.
Their design philosophy is "Do whatever Bethesda does, but better and cleaner" :)

Also blizzard was not making any cyberpunk game in 2012 when cyberpunk 2077 was announced, and the witcher has no relation to the elder scrolls excepted the fantasy elements it shares, but that can be said for everything right because you used some vague as fuck genre to explain your idea :')

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>>386375464
Did you play the first game?

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>>386375392
Witcher 1 actually was different and had good atmosphere. It was the first game they ever made so it was a big mess but if they would polish it more it could be a huge classic to this day.
Witcher 2 was consolized garbage with worst UI in existence and ton of shitty changes.
Witcher 3 is a normie Open World Trash game.
Gwent is garbage.

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>>386374598
Bethseda hasn't made a single damn cyberpunk game you swine.

>>386375464
>I can't refute it so I'll call him a retard
GOTEEEEM

Yes. Video games are not a story telling medium, they are an interactive medium. Having the shitties combat and gameplay in an RPG is great for an interactive movie or book but it's a terrible game created by hacks.

>>386375652
Oh yea. The first game where Triss is basically a shitty Yennefer clone (only bitchy side) with no traits of her original personality from books. Yes i did.
Running in a flashy dress with leafs and plants theme in Novigrad where any mage/herbalist/non-human is discriminated/hunted is not a very smart idea.
All of DLC was reused content and on CDPR asslickers believe otherwise.

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>>386374141
Source? Also >>386375652 for your stupid Triss theory
Also
>How DARE they use old concept art to inspire new content

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>>386375931
so games are an
>interactive medium
but they can't be designed like an
>interactive movie or book

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>>386376072
>this is your average CDPR fan
People are fucking retarded. Literally kys.

>>386375989
>Running in a flashy dress with leafs and plants theme in Novigrad
if you don't want that you go into the options and disable the extra costume THAT YOU TURNED ON

>they've never made a game with good gameplay
Yes, they're hacks
Muh presentation and barely above average writing is the only thing worth experiencing and those things are free on youtube ffs

>>386374598
Bethesda has been making open world fantasies for decades. So anyone who follows suit is copying simply because they did it first?

>Fallout is cyberpunk
What fucking world do you live in? If anything it is post apocalypse with a dash of steampunk and 50s style.

Bethesda also published a stealth action game and what is basically System Shock 3 and CDPR hasn't touched those genre

>>386376274
Then you don't make alternate costume that is reused asset from a deleted character you retard.
Jesus Christ CDPR could literally throw children out of the window to death and people like you would still defend them.

>>386376220
tons of game could benefit from having their concept art real

there's LITERALLY nothing wrong with it.

>>386376151
Yes but its a shitty game and this is a board for video GAMES. Interactive movies are youtube tier.

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>bought W3
>beat it on deathmarch and all the DLC
>want to play it again
>combat is forcing me to do so

>>386376386
Yes you do faggot, ain't gonna throw content because shitters like you don't like it and cry about it.
> Everyone that BTFO me is a CDPR drone
no, fuck off.

>>386376410
Too bad none of the concept art made to the game.
It looks good in theory but final product is a watered down normie shit.

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>>386376220
How are you not retarded for complaining someone used old concept art? Really don't understand your point.

Like this concept art. Arkane never used the vines as an enemy in the DLC it was made for. Years later when the second game was released they made an enemy inspired by this concept art.

Why do you take issue with this? Do you have autism and hate change ?

>Announce a game 5 years ago
>Still no news about it

they're hacks all right

>>386376545
So you admit it's reused shit.
>b-but anon, CDPR are gods, they for sure made all that shit in one week after game launched to prove they are ready to work to make free DLC
Fucking bullshit.
I wouldn't be even surprised if Toussaint in BaW is just upgraded Dol Blathanna that was deleted from W2.

>>386376616
>It's okay when Nintendo does it.
This is Nintendo's modus operandi for decades, which is why the trend lately has been to announce right before release that year with vast swaths of time between.

>>386376606
Wow is that fucking cut content? Literal garbage fire tier devs right there. All the games I like are 100% perfect and the devs always finish and implement every passing thought they have.

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They're really good at certain areas, but very mediocre in things like gameplay and game design.

And they seem to be getting worse in the things they were good at...

>In Witcher 1 all NPCs have lifecycles, even story NPC's will go on walks form their homes to the tavern

>In Witcher 3 they don't have lifecycles,they just do random shit like hit a nail all day then vanish. Story NPCs don't have cycles, their entire existence is based on them waiting for you to talk to them, and will stand in one spot all their life even if it's soaking wet

Also Witcher 3 was a huuuge drop in story quality. Huuuge

>>386376780
>re-used shit
But a second ago you were complaining about them not utilizing concept art immediately. Which is it?

>>386376780
>reused shit
assuming it was even made for another character, it's extra content that wouldn't have been put into the game because some of their ideas didn't work out
instead they finished it and put it out for free
how is this bad?

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I hear nothing but good things about this game but I've watched streams/youtube videos (fuck off) of the gameplay and the combat legitimately looks basic and boring. Legit not trying to troll or rip on the game or whatever, it just looks extremely simple.

Diehard fans, tell me I'm wrong, because I want to be wrong. Give me a link or timestamp to a video or something that shows me some fun combat.

>>386373325
N-
>>386373395
FPBP

They trigger SJWs, Biodrones, and redditers. They are /ourdevs/

>>386376843
>Will stand in one spot even though it is soaking wet
No?
https://youtu.be/9vzzPB6PRsE
Go 2 mins in

>>386376843
Witcher 1 villain:
>wants to save the world from upcoming apocalypse, just in a way you do not agree with him
Witcher 2 villain:
>literally your previous bro who just got you in trouble by accident and never considered you an enemy
Witcher 3 villain:
>GRR I'M EVIL LONG LIVE THE KING MUAHAHAHA
W3 was normie shit alright.
Radovid was reduced to shitty Joffrey clone even though in previous parts he was a ruthless, but a very smart ruler.
Whoreson Junior is your cliche edgy bad guy (look he kills women for fun, what an evil dude). Literally never cared about him.

>>386376843
It's hard to do stuff like lifecycles with such a big area, though. not saying it's impossible, but it's not even necessary if you're moving around the area all the time, which you're encouraged to do in TW3. TW1 had less space to work with and you spend a lot of time in the same couple places

and at least the DLCs picked up the writing quality a bit. plus Pondsmith's doing a bunch of writing for Cyberpunk 2077, so it should be good

that said, CDPR ain't perfect or anything, but they're getting better, with some dips in quality here and there along the way

>>386377172
>They are /ourdevs/

>Gerald is literally a cuckold
hehe

>>386376956
Bad is calling this free DLC and doing obnoxious PR by saying "look, we are not as bad as others so buy our game".

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you tell me

>>386375745
That is why I said undertones.
Bethesda would only go partial cyberpunk because you never go full cyberpunk.

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>>386377172
>they trigger le SJW

ugh..sweetie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BitTd0xJBA

>>386377348
>cuckhold
Didn't know Witchers could reproduce

>>386377336
Because Witcher 3 never needed open world. It actually never needed half of the things it done but it did only because it was a popular AAA meme. So most of the shit was developed only to the point when it could be marketed and then abandoned.

>>386377370
they're trying to build a positive reputation
their games take like 2 clicks to pirate, their entire business is based on earning the respect of their consumers, they do free DLC because people like it
of course they'll do PR like that, it's how they make money

>>386373842
>every review on glassdoor
https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CD-Projekt-RED-Reviews-E644250.htm
???

>>386377190
that was a random NPC faggot. Anyone you can interact with like story NPC or trader will sit in one spot all their life until the quest is over. In Witcher 1 they took shelter too.

nice reading comprehension

>>386377370
Well yeah, it's free DLC.
And they've never done any PR around those free DLC. they only said that there would be one free DLC for 16 week after the release of the game, nothing else nothing more. They never said "Look, we are not as bad as others, so buy our game" and even if they DID said that, it still prove that they're not as bad as the other.

>>386377589
both TW1 and TW2 were based on following current trends as well, it's just how they do their games

>>386377651
> In Witcher 1 they took shelter too.

And had lifecycles, where they would go to sleep in a bed where it makes sense and spend their day in a way that makes sense

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>>386377370
You're like a spoiled child. I have no clue why the fuck anyone else is even responding to you.

>>386377172
Except Reddit fucking loves them?

>>386377806
But it would be too hard for casuals to try and find people who walk around all day and actually have lives.

>>386377806
would you really want to spend time looking for Poor Villager #83 because you needed to get paid for killing some drowners

>>386377370
>be this guy
>go to Sam's Club/Costco
>lady handing out snack samples offers him one
>he slaps it out of her hand
>screams about how offering shit for free is deceptive PR
>screams at her and claims she said "we aren't as bad as Walmart" and how the store is just doing it to look better than Walmart

I wouldn't be surprised if you sneered at free samples in public with your bizarre logic

>>386374598
>Bethesda makes a game with cyberpunk undertones
which game would that be?

>>386377412
Try not being shit at the game?

>>386377952
they had map markers, breadcrums and huge arrows pointing the way to everything

it's just laziness

>>386373325
no

>>386373395
fpbp

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>>386373395
>/thread your own post

>>386378063
>shit at the game
>leshen literally attacks in a different direction but Geralt still gets hit
Oh yea. You have to "git gud" i guess.

>>386378063
are you asking a question or making a statement my mentally impaired cdpr drone?

>>386377508
It's the 13th Century brah.

>>386378093
That's more because if they didn't include them, people would feel frustrated, and they'd get bad reviews, and then they'd go out of business.

>>386378017
yes

also it ruins the immersion that story NPC's stand frozen in time.

what is even the point to do this for non-story NPCs, if the immersion is broken with story NPCs.

Zoltan was waiting 10 feet outside the whorehouse for me for days, I would pass by him 10 times and he just stands there in the rain

baffling

>>386378057
The one with the synths and the ones freeing the synths and the ones hunting the synths because they determined they were more a hazard than a benefit.

>>386377651
Did you even play? Or are you lying?

Some quest NPCs needed to be talked to during the day or I had to wake them up if it was night.

Like that villager who cuts off his own ear for the crones. It was night when I came to the village and he was in his house sleeping.

>>386378229
It's hard being retarded please don't judge me.

>>386377937
how would you know unless you went on reddit
>>/reddit/

>>386378296
>muh immersion

autism

>>386378310
androids aren't even cyberpunk

>>386378296
What are you talking about? >>386377190 showed how they have life cycles and different tasks.

>>386378393
Neither are elves.
Your point?

>>386378296
to make it easier and more accessible so this doesn't happen >>386378276
it's a necessary evil for a big company with only one game every couple of years

Gwent is a fucking mess right now.

>>386378521
I agree. Shadowrun isn't proper Cyberpunk, even William Gibson agrees. Good thing Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't have elves.

>>386378412
Main story/quest NPCs do not have life cycles like in W1 and W2 they just stand in place regardless if it's raining, shitting or being invaded by Nilfgaard.

>>386377508
>hire women in their writing team for "diversity"
>this happens

Why am I not surprised

Witcher died when the two main writers left the project

>>386373865
That you're a faggot?

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>>386378684
This is art director for Gwent.

>>386378632

I liked Lamberts quest where you need to talk to this guy who has a picnic with the family in the backyard in 1 pm while it's pouring outside

>>386378842
1 AM

or any time. The only quest I remember that was locked to specific period was one quest with Yennefer when the game was ending, and the quest log would constantly update when you can do the quest which was annoying

>>386378979
>which was annoying
Right, so isn't the current system better than making it all annoying?

>>386379074
Or how about you do it like Witcher 1 and 2 where it wasn't annoying...the game and the quest log just told you the right time and that was it

>>386377230
The real villain of Witcher 1 was the King of the wild hunt spectre.

>>386379074
Just don't make shit pop up every time i guess.
CDPR are terrible at making good UI.

>>386379190
Not really. He was an outside observant.
True duel was between Geralt and Jaques (who was responsible for all "evil" in the game).

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>>386379190
He wasn't the real villain, he was just a setup for the next games and overarching story, just pops up at the beginning and the end. And that setup sure paid off...

Real villain was Alvin/The Grandmaster

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>>386379446
is there anything in the books about the ghost army? That's just the european folklore legend about the Wild Hunt, but they mention in the games that the wild hunt is a flying spectre army...yet you never see anything of the sort

in Witcher 1 the wild hunt "recruits" the spirits of Leo and some old knight, but that's never mentioned again

>>386379996
In books Eredin literally tells Ciri that they are the Wild Hunt.

>>386377508
>trilogy known for throwing in dozens/hundreds of easter eggs from other works
>Jesus Christ this one easter egg referencing a popular show/book has a woman doing a non-feminine thing, better act like a triggered faggot

>>386379446
Its been a while since I last played it but I remember the King teasing you about Leo's death in the outskirts and duelling him at the end of the game for Alvin's soul.

At least to me that seemed more villainous than what Alvin was doing.

>>386378213
Press alt to sidestep its hit, not roll. This isn't dark souls.

You're shit at this game

>>386380251
You're retarded. He shouldn't even need to dodge there. Leshen literally attacked air in the opposite direction of Geralt and he still got hit because CDPR can't into hitboxes.

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>>386380187
>DUDE this game is BASED because it triggers SJWW
>Uhm, no sweetie here are some examples of the game virtue signaling and showing down feminism
>FUCKING DELETE THIS YOUR JUST TRIGGERED

>>386380698
Meant to quote >>386378684 actually, you're still a faggot though for caring about that shit.

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>>386378815
nu-gwent objectively looks like shit

the in game Witcher 3 gwent had much better aesthetics

>>386380698
>game didn't trigger sjws
>one easter egg about a woman pretending to be a man and Geralt being okay with it
>ignore the twitter arguments about the lack of minority characters
>potatoes

>>386377508
It's a fantasy world.
Women are as powerful as Man in the fantasy-verse.
Also, it's not like homosexuality didn't exist during the medieval era.

>>386381435
This desu.
People say the card art is great but no it's not. It sure looks very realistic and detailed but it lacks any substance and soul. It looks like generic fantasy shit.
Board, menu, cards, portraits etc. all of that does not resemble Witcher at all.

>>386381464
Yes, then they brought in enlightened muslims for the DLC and they were very enlightened muslim scholars who were bewildered why white man religion was not compatible with science

>le empty tolkien clone #5349675123
fucking shit desu

>>386381553
>women are as powerful as men in Witcher Lore
found a fag who never played any game and never read the books

Now that the dust has settled can we all agree CDProjekt is the most overrated around studio these days?

>>386382180
It's a solid tie between them and Nintendo.
But yes, they are overrated as fuck. Unable to make anything original and just copy the most popular trends in Triple A market.
BotW is a current trend so Witcher 3 devs obviously had to say that they are inspired by it.
Also W3 was normie shit that got incredibly casualized compared to W1 and W2 just to appeal to mass audience.
Also their management is utter shit. Their russian section does whatever the fuck they want (they leaked wipe information about Gwent in CB and caused quite a shitstorm) and their games are always a fucking mess that are always put together at the end my miracle like a Frankenstein monster.

>>386382764
Uh? The witcher 3 came out in 2015, BotW came in 2017, how exactly are they saying that they were inspired by it?

>>386373395
FPBP

>>386373842
>everyone ignores this post
The gwent team is definitely not on the level you would expect from a studio as large and successful as CDPR.

>>386382951
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/06/the_witcher_3_and_assassins_creed_devs_heap_praise_on_zelda_breath_of_the_wild
Just wait for their next game after CP2077 to be watered down Zelda clone without any sould.
They have good consumer practices but are fucking terrible at making games.

>>386373325
Worse
They're p*les

>>386383128
Yea i'm surprised this it not addressed. On Gwent subreddit you can literally get banned for criticizing CDPR because they can do no wrong.
Meanwhile rethaz and his whole team are hacks unable of making multiplayer. Weren't they actually the same team that was making that shitty Mobile MOBA?

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>>386375735
>>386376567
>>386377230
>>386382764
>normie
Stop with this normalfag bullshit already.

>>386383276
Says it all, really.

>>386377508
>implying the it's the current century lines aren't satire

>>386381435
But nu gwent doesn't look like that.

>>386383834
Yea. It looks worse.

>>386383980
No it doesn't.