Eight, eight, say, don't be late!

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>>386369434
can't wait

WHERE ARE THE PC AND SWITCH CES??

i want to fuck ringo

Wing Fortress is the best Sonic 2 stage

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Comparing the Mania and 3&K palettes. It's tough, but I think I like the larger contrast betwen hues on the Mania sprite and the color of the 3&K sprite. I think there may be a happy compromise to be found.

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>a ragtag team of american devs make a better game than Japan as a whole

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I was considering buying a PS4 copy for a friend of mine. A few months he bought me a new copy of Xenoverse 2 so we could play online together. Would I appear cheap if I got him a digital $20 game? I was thinking about inviting him over to play multiplayer to see if he liked it.

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>>386369887
>ragtag team with a long history of creating romhacks.
>but somehow sonic mania isn't a romhack.

I just took last Thursday and Friday off work.

Not sure if it's bad work etiquette to request the release day off, as well.

I'm planning to jump ship as soon as I find another job, anyway, but still.

>>386370097
Xenoverse sucks and you're giving him a good game.

>>386369887
Whitehead's an Aussie. But yeah, it's upsetting how much Sonic Team seem to have lost their way. Hopefully Mania serves as a wake up call.

>>386369863
3K is still my favourite sprite, by far.

His face and shoes look more detailed, and his arms aren't at a weird angle.

>>386369887
Taxman is australian, but I don't know about the others.

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>>386370210
>New engine
>Not hacking any roms

How many of you here have actually finished Spinball?

>>386370592
Never even played it. Tried Mean Bean Machine the other night and had fun.

>>386370535
>new engine guys derp
>they not making a romhack this time i swear

>>386370419
but anon, 3k has the weirdest arms

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How come Sonic threads are always the only ones to discuss the video game itself? Everyone is talking about "muh whyfoos" and arguing and shitposting and porn loli minecraft YT cringe compilation futa doujin 500 replies and 140 image posts omitted. Sonic threads always have intriguing discussion and shitposters are always called out.
Are Sonic threads, dare I say, the best of /v/?

>>386370592
I did. If it wasn't so rushed STI could've fixed the frame rate issue and make it a good game. It's worth a playthrough if your curious, but it can be a slog.

>>386370592
deleted the rom after 5 minutes. would rather play chaotix

>>386370814
Well, as of now yes

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You guys always jerk off Taxman, but what does Stealth bring to the table? What do you guys think of him? He seems to be largely ignored.

>>386370210
>>386370762
you've been shitting in a diaper for a few years, does it mean you still do it and will do it forever?

>>386370814
you would think the samus return threads would be the same but no. the only thing people shitpost and laugh about is the amiibo paywall debacle and the new counter system samus stole from marth

>>386370419
>1/2 arms
>just on his hips

>3K arms
>I can't tell if that's an angle or if they're short? Why are the hands so huge

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>>386370814
No, this isn't the case. It's because Sonic Mania is a from the heart, honest to god video game. Every other Sonic game discussion, especially Forces, ends up in all kinds of waifu and cringe as fuck posting. All wanting to fuck that OC red fox thing. Mania is a special game that somebody used the monkey paw to get, and we're blessed with at least SOME what decent discussions and general comfy hype. It just shows that the people who want to play know that blood sweat and tears have gone into making this thing, and we're blessed to have it, also taxman and stealth and the team is like a fucking avengers team up of autism to make the ultimate sonic 2d game.

>>386370814

They're the worst of /vg/ though

Everytime I pop in they're going on and on about MUH COMICS

>>386370941
Dude's pretty talented. He ported Sonic 1 to GBA on his own just to show how much of a shit job Sonic Team did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmN5eDIOJqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFwxF-7vSrQ

>>386370941
I always bring up Stealth when I can, he is the chosen one. We all know and love Stealth, he must be protected at all costs, without him, this all falls to shit. The Mania team is like a chair, take away one leg, it falls.

>>386369863
man, I never liked Mania's colors from the start but that comparison to 3K just makes the green shading look really bad

>>386370956
well this is a sonic game, and sonicfags are well known autonepiophiles

GUYS

GUYS

GUYS SHUT UP, SHUT UP FOR A SECOND!

Think about it. They might actually do it. The game people have been waiting for since the Saturn may be eight days away. They might actually pull this off. THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY FUCKING DO IT OH HOLY JESUS.

Who else /didntgiveafuckaboutanyothersonicgameafter3+Kbutthisismakingmeshakehotwhitecoconutsfromtheveinylovetree/ here?

>>386371230
This was fucking god tier

One man brings his giant fucking dick in and puts sega in there place in one video, Sega sitting there mouth agape drooling like how the FUCK

>>386371141
>worst of /vg/ though
Not even close.

>>386370762
Where is the ROM? Which ROM are they hacking? They aren't hacking Sonic 1. They aren't hacking Sonic CD. You are just ignorantly shitposting. Stealth is the only one who made ROM hacks as far as I'm concerned, and mainly Sonic Megamix, Sonic 1 GBA Test and the very first hack to include Knuckles in Sonic 1. Taxman made a new engine from the ground-up and games from scratch. Even then, Stealth made his own engine from the ground-up as well with Project Mettrix, and fucking worked on Sonic Robo Blast 2.
Once again, Sonic Mania was made from the ground-up. Piss off.

>>386370419
That's because you're a fucking idiot. Drink bleach.

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>>386371230

>MFW I finally realize that the people complaining about the limited field of view and how Sonic was never good was because they played the GBA version.

>>386371141
The comics are dead though, do they just constantly complain about them being stopped?

>>386371141
that or they're creaming their tighty whities over Amy

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>>386371230
Daily reminder that the Sonic Genesis Sega version, which every time I see that video makes my body do a backflip out of pure disgust

Came out the same year as Sonic 06

Can you fucking say the Dark Age of Sonic games?

>>386371527
Didn't Chronicles come out around that time as well?

>>386371501

Current complaints is how they should rally together and convince IDW to hire all the Archie staff to continue where the Archie comics left off. Also to bring back all the Freedom Fighters

>>386371418
t. autistic incoherent sonicfag ramblings

>>386369434
8 days? But it comes out on the 15th, doesn't it?

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>>386371789
Its actually 9 counting today.

>>386371789
We round down because we're desperate.

>>386371426
>getting this mad over a sprite

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>>386371945
Shit, wrong image.

>>386370941

He disassembled Sonic 1 is largely responsible for accurately recreating the Sonic physics that multiple engines use, even Retro Engine.

Without Stealth, there would be no Taxman.

Not that most people would know or care

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>>386371527
Never mind same year, it was the same fucking month, and it was all for Sonic's 15th too. The series has never truly recovered since then, Generations has been the closest its come to redeeming itself, but Sonic Team in their current state are just not up to the job anymore. Here's hoping Mania is successful and gets Tax, Stealth and their crew a little more clout for their next tile.

>>386372006
Well there's like 5 hours until it's 8 days left, so it's leaning more torwards the 8 than the 9

>>386372153
Unleashed was a labor of love. You could tell they felt bad about 06 while playing it.

I'm so excited for this game. I've played the original trilogy(&K) too much, so they don't hold much joy for me anymore because they're just TOO familiar at this point. The fact that we'll very soon have a whole new game that looks to be on par with 3&K in both quality and size is blowing my mind.

>>386372302
Unleashed is still a fantastic looking game even if it is 20fps and the actual Sonic day stages are great.
But the Werehog killed it and it never recovered.

>>386372040
he's a fucking fat 35-year old virgin. just ignore him

>>386369434
Taxman clears up some confusion about Special Stage rings:

//forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=35709&view=findpost&p=901614

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>>386372171
It comes out at midnight on the night of august 14th. Everytime we hit midnight, we countdown another day. Everybody good on this?

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>>386371141
>They're the worst of /vg/ though

OK let's go to /vg/ right now and find out what are some better threads than /sthg/.
>Love Live! School Idol Festival General - /llsifg/ #1331: Butt Edition
>/owg/ - Overwatch General
>Touhou general - /2hug/
>/nepgen/ - Neptunia General #1266
>eve online general /eog/: kys kevin
>/tf2g/ - Team Fortress 2 General
Just browsing the catalog gives you a really shitty feeling.

>>386372517
I highly doubt it's a midnight release. Or did they actually confirm that?

>>386372302
Yeah I agree. It's why eggmanland is the final stage. It was hyped up throughout many sonic titles so it was fitting for the last level of what they thought could very well be their last sonic game.

>>386372302
Oh yeah for sure, there was a huge amount of effort to fix what '06 did, but the Werehog gimmick immediately soured most everyone on it and the Werehog stages weren't good enough to change their minds on it.

It's a shame because the Day stages are probably the best the boost-style gameplay's ever been.

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>>386369434
Today I will remind them.

>>386369818
my dark colored sibling

>>386372564

Everything in /vg/ is the worst of /vg/

If you want to talk about Sonic games, /vg/ is not the place to go

>>386371141
vg in general heh just isn't too good, Dragon Ball only talks about Dokkan Battle, Ace Combat only talks about Infinity, Final Fantasy about Bravus or whatever the mobile shit is called, didn't check the FE threads but i'm sure it's all about Heroes
Damn i miss Cuhrayzee General...

>>386372696
you wasted your time on making / posting this image because nobody cares about the name

>>386372623
The countdown on the PSN store stops on midnight EST of the 14th

>>386372810
>the name
It's more about which of the two games is the canonical sequel to 3&K, which is Mania and not """4""".

Sonic REMIX album by the same people that made Sonic CD's You Can Do Anything and Cosmic Eternity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fmk-WIV3U0

>>386372756
well go fucking make one faggot. I swear I see a lot of former /cgg/ fags all over /v/ but no one wants to be assed to do some effort

>>386372696
Goddamn some of you fucks are autistic as hell

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>>386371527
>>386372153
It came out the same day actually if we want to get specific, fuck November 14th, 2006 man, that was the worst time for this series. You get a brand new game that's meant to be a anniversary game showing how the far series has gone & you port the original classic in one of the worst ways you can, it's pretty fucking hilarious honestly.

>>386372696
Is there any substance to the claim that 4 was originally a phone game? I believe it, just wanna see a source.

>>386372696
>>386373065
Can you please make an image that also rips apart and discredits CD in a similar fashion? I hate that idiots in these threads think it deserves to share the limelight with 3&K.

>>386373251
There's proof in the game itself

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>>386373121
There is no coming back, it's dead, just like /m/, it's fun to reminisce about the old times when we find eachother but that's where the magic ends

>>386372461
I'm a 19 year old skinny virgin. Fuck you.

>>386373251
You can see the name "Sonic the Portable" on the ferris wheel in Casino Street. Don't have the image saved myself though.

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>>386373540
80 hours on google

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>>386373251
>>386373326
>>386373540
Found it.

>>386370941
I'll always know Stealth as, "The man that can do what Sega can't"

Putting Knuckles in Sonic 1 blew my mind as a kid

>>386373251
>>386373540
>>386373741
>>386373782
>autistic retrofags desperate to undermine the canonical and true sonic 4
It's the sequel to sonic 3 and knuckles. Deal with it.

>>386373898
No, it's the sequel to Final Fantasy VIII

>>386371141
that's not /feg/

>>386372843
Hmm. I'm not sure if that's enough for me to get hyped for a midnight release, but perhaps. I know that my pre-order of Pyre didn't. In fact, for a few hours after the game went up, I still couldn't download it because the countdown had not yet run out.

>>386373263
no

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>>386373898
Only in the most superficial way imaginable, and even then only because of marketing bullshit. Mania's the real deal everywhere that counts, get fucked, 4cuck.

>>386371665
>Oh no! I was proven wrong. Better invalidate everything he wrote by calling him autistic.

>>386373898
Only in name

>>386373898
Shitposts aside, it's more of a sequel to Sonic CD if anything honestly with how Little Planet gets involved in Episode II.

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>>386372696
Sonic timeline is a split one like Zelda depending on the ending of S3&K

>No Emeralds: Angel Island sinks, Knuckles becomes a nomad, leads into Sonic 4 and the Boost games
>All Chaos Emeralds: Adventure series
>All Super Emeralds: Era of Mania and good games

>>386371363
And yet, some people won't play it with a Saturn controller.
HAHAHAHAHA

>>386373898
but that's Sonic the Portable you're talking about.

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>>386373898
Thats funny because thats not not sega sees it.

>>386374385
Hey fuck you don't put that evil on us CDfags. Little Planet should have been laid to rest, especially considering CD is such a divergent side story that the whole thing almost feels like a dream or something. Sonic 4 didn't just tarnish the reputation of the classic games but it also tarnished the surreal and whimsical feel of CD by bringing Little Planet into the picture again.

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>>386374631
I'm still hoping Mania has a Good Future Act for Stardust Speedway just to cement how the other games are Bad Futures/the bad timeline.

>>386374760
THIS

>>386374928
THAT

>>386371363
It's weird to say it but Mania looks like it could legitimately be right up there as one of the best titles of the entire series. And it's coming out in the same year as Forces is, which looks thoroughly unremarkable. Either Sonic Team have no self-awareness or they just don't care anymore. I'm leaning towards the latter.

>>386374928
>>386374974
THOSE

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>>386374760
Relax Anon, I didn't say that to shit on CD or anything , I just mean plotwise if we have to say it's a sequel to anything it'd make the most sense it'd be a sequel to CD, it wouldn't be a good one & it doesn't deserve to be one but it makes the most sense. I don't disagree with what you said though. Little Planet shouldn't have been brought back at all outside of Mania and I guess the boss fight in Generations.

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>>386374760
>Episode I was just some half-assed phone game with the number 4 slapped on it
>Because people complained, have to raise the stakes for Episode II
>Bring in Little Planet cause they foreshadowed Metal Sonic so that could help
>Since it's a sequel to 3&K make another Death Egg too that'll work
>Leave a cliffhanger because it's episodic and finishing a whole arc in 4 Zones is rushed story telling
>Get cancelled anyway

Anybody who defense 4 has pure autism

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What would you do for a classic-style game after Mania?
I love the 3&K formula and am so glad it's coming back for Mania, but I'm wondering if a third game in the same vein might be a bit much and we'd end up with a Mega Man 10 on our hands.
Any way they could mix up the gameplay within reason?

>>386375375
Mania 2
Mania BD
Mania 3&Kintobor

>>386371426
if you really think the tube arms and tiny square hands look better, you should drink bleach

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Who is the best faker?

>>386375375
Mario did the same 2D thing over and over and got results. It's been so long since sonic 3 that the same thing again and again would legitimately be a blessing.

>no Michiyoshi comic bundled with the comic
into the trash it goes

>>386369434
It's getting closer!
I can't wait!

>>386375616
Sonic

>>386375649
The classic Mario games switched it up pretty significantly between games, and if you're talking about NSMB then that's definitely not something I'd like Sonic to become

>>386375616
every orgasming girl

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>>386375375
>End up with a game better than the last one

Doesn't sound too bad. The only real issue is oversaturation, but Classic Sonic doesn't have that issue since this would be his only fifth traditional game while Mega Man 9 was the seventh

Honestly I trust the Mania team to provide more diversity to the table than Inti Creates. I don't hate Inti Creates, I love what they did for Mega Man, but when they do Mega Man it's just Mega Man

I need this fucking game NOW

>>386375375
I still want a 3D game after this.

>>386369434
>I love what they did for Mega Man, but when they do Mega Man it's just Mega Man

The fuck is that supposed to mean?

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>>386375616
Metal Sonic for best competition
Silver Sonic for best fear factor
Mecha Sonic for most dangerous potential (that nigga went supersonic)

Shadow for being Sonic's personally-appointed faker

>>386376080
I want a 3D game that looks like the special stages but with actual level geometry

>>386376117
Who?

>>386376080
Then play forces, fagattack. Or are you one of the niggers that wants 3D blast 2 or is autistic enough to think something as dumb as sonic utopia can work in a real game? People like you are the reason we didn't get this in the 90s. Fuck you.

>>386375846
Megafag just chiming to say that Mega Man 9 was also the best of the classic series hands down.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9BnajXumaM

1:55

Can we just take a moment to realise that the boss is going to appear from them curtains and it is going to one a complete jizz worthy moment? I fucking can't wait REEEEEE

>>386376117
It means that there's no diversity to the game, there's no true improvements and the series didn't really evolve. The last game they worked on that added diversity to the series was ZX Advent

9 and 10 were fun throwbacks for the time, but they weren't big game changers for the classics and I find it hard to really replay them over the 6 we had already got. I can only hope Mania doesn't have the same issues, but I sincerely doubt it

>>386376258
I couldn't get into it. It's definitely a solid game though but I'm also a weirdo that enjoys 1 the most

>>386376162
I don't know, special stages are too low poly. I'd love for a game with the Fighters look, polycount and rough shading included.

>>386376247
I want Adventure done right. No light dash, no spring strings, no dashpads, just a good 3D Sonic.

>>386376292
>bullet holes appear
>curtains open to reveal fang and the dudes

>>386376361
As in Mega Man 1? Explain.

>>386375616
Mecha Sonic mainly because of SMBZ nostalgia.

>>386376572
I feel like I mention this any time someone brings up SMBZ, but my inner child was so excited during this episode of OMM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBK0stoukBQ

>>386376361
Guy you replied to, I also really love Mega Man 1. But I admit it's rough around the edges and a little archaic compared to its successors. I still think it has less wonky shit in its level design than some spots of Mega Man 2, with Mega Man 3 being the objective best of the first three and Mega Man 9 surpassing even that.

>>386376502
>/v/ unintentionally kills mania for you because they think of better ideas then what the actual game will provide

god damn it anon

>>386375375
wisps

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>>386376528
For some reason 2 just didn't strike a chord with me. People would praise it as the best in the series or the most solid, but the only thing I can agree with everyone is the music is some of the best the NES has produced. 1 was pretty to the point and I had a lot more fun getting through the stages once I got gud at them. I also prefer the Mega Man 1 robot masters

But I'm also a weirdo that likes Sonic 1 over 2. There's just some sort of archaic intrigue I enjoy out of first installments of a series. Sonic 3&K is my favorite Classic though, and I think CD is just a better version of 1. I don't think my tastes really make much sense

>>386376767
I used to like 3 the most, but the pacing bothers me these days. 1 is just so to the point and the simple aesthetics fit the games better than trying to show off what the system was capable of doing yet retaining the same Mega Man sprite for 6 straight games

What would you do if Sega tells Tax/ Stealth to fuck off even if Mania does well?

>>386376502
Its the second act, so it will more than likely be a Hard Boiled Heavy.

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>>386376971
The same I did about not getting Taxman 1 and 2: Complain on imageboards and buy the good games they put out anyway.

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>>386376971
SEGA wouldn't be this dumb would they? Who'd they hand off the game to? Sonic Team? Fuck that. I wouldn't buy the next game.

>only digital release
Into the trash it goes

>>386376258
Another Megafag chiming in to agree with this. But 10 was also really good. Sure they aren't game changing, but the levels, weapons, music, and aesthetics are all solid. Really the only numbered game I probably don't have a lot of fondness for is 5 just for how bland and easy it was.

>>386377151
The Heavies have already be confirmed to be fought in the first act though.

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>>386376971
end up like Chad and kill everyon on sight.

>>386376361

You're a dumb sack of shit if you don't see as 9 being a fantastic refinement to the formula that surpasses the first 6. No other title aside from X1 puts the focus back into the weapons like Mega Man 9 did. The level design was top notch for every stage and every weapon had usability option no matter what stage order you tackle. This is the heart of Mega Man and Mega Man 9 nailed it to near perfect execution.

9 was not just a simple throwback. It was not "just another Mega Man". It was a refresher to developers and the audience over what made Mega Man special in the first place. You can kindly fuck off.

>>386377442
Such a refresher it died right afterwards

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yo /v/

I've been thinking, in the perfect timeline, MJ still is alive and he does music for Mania, HOWEVER

we're not in that time line. What alive celebrity would you want to come make music for Sonic?

I'm thinking somebody like Daft Punk, or..hmm, who the FUCK could work on Sonic and you would be like fuck yeah this shit is gonna be pumpin

>>386377442
I agree with everything this guy said except less angry.

>>386377712
Tee Lopes is doing a fine job celeb artists can fuck off thanks

>>386377151
The Hard Boiled Heavies are mini bosses, m8.

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>>386377712
>Daft Punk

No.
No current mainstream celebrity would be worthy of making Sonic music.

>>386377382
Source?

>>386377712
Desired
Ryo Fukui
Supermen Lovers
Jean Michel Jarre.

>>386377856
nobody said the celeb would kick tee lopes off, just another celeb and tee lopes

>>386377712
None of them.

Tee is fine.

All modern music is shit.

>>386377926
The Heavy Gunner is the boss of Studiopolis act 1.

>>386377889
So the heavies are the mini-bosses for new levels, while remixed versions of the classic bosses are used for the returning stages mibi-bosses?

>>386377712

Justin Timberlake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPBzBBY3AUQ

yo my boys did you see cyber's new video?

>>386377959
>Supermen Lovers
fucking refined taste

>>386377750

He did say kindly

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>>386377712
Would MJ still being alive mean Sonic 3 could be remade & release mostly easily beyond Brad Buxer?

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>>386378042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbSPUYlkIoI

The only correct answer.

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>>386378109
Let me run this through my translator
>Hey I'm desperate for views. Will you dumb fucks watch my latest low effort video?

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>>386377712
I hope Mania makes billions and they get Nakamura to make a soundtrack for a sequel.
Will never happen I guess but at least they seem to be on okay terms again considering he worked with them during Generations.

>>386378239
thanks doc

>>386377991
no

>>386373187
Didn't Sonic Rivals come out on the same day too?

When can we expect reviews?

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>>386369434
>first world subways
I wish to ride one one day.

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Would you?

>>386378383
I don't think he needs to shill his videos on here anon.

>>386378481
That came out 2 days later actually, that feels a bit random to do.

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>>386378453
>he likes mainstream music

Get out of this Comfy thread. You're horrifying me. How can someone have such shit taste;

>>386378586
>Inb4 people get triggered by Utopia again

>>386378481

I actually enjoyed Rivals

I wish it had online racing

>>386378586
>Utopia
No.

>>386378616
>modern music mean mainstream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vd2nyk-4Lo

>>386378576
How can you afford a metro ticket, but not pants

>>386378672
Not sure how the first one was but I enjoyed 2 quite a bit. I think it was the last game Iizuka directed?

>>386378383
That ain't Cybershell, kid. He always posts here with a handle.

>>386378576
*snif snif*

>>386378676
Why not?

>>386378586

Just change Utopia to with World already. The only thing this image does is trigger people.

Also, no. Fuck off already.

>>386378941
It sucks. If you're gonna make 3D Sonic all about speed, at least introduce tools to compensate said speed. Especially when your tech demo controls like ass.

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tagline
>Sonic Mania doesn't do anything new with the franchise, and that's a bad thing
summary
>A surprising display by SEGA to trust their brand with indie developers does not excuse the game for its outdated game mechanics, fundamentally flawed ideas, and overt reliance on nostalgia.
rating
>4.8/10

>>386379035
Why does Utopia trigger people?

>>386379302
It's a WiiU exclusive.

>>386379035
No.

>>386379220
I have a feeling that if they actually pulled something like this, the backlash would be so great that they'd be forced to redact it, like that one bitch on Come Dine With Me.

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>>386374695

>>386378941
>>386379035
Like clockwork.

>>386379302
I dunno, but whenever this is posted people start start getting pissy without fail.

>tfw no hard mode in Sonic games that brings back Sonic 1-style spikes

>>386379453
the fuck is that turd?

>>386378586
>Implying I wouldn't
Already paid for collector's edition of Mania + shipping so that's essentially 70 dollarydoos for Mania alone

>>386379173
It controls great what are you talking about?

>>386379552
Insta kills are the worst thing in a Sonic game and contradict the rest of the game's design

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>>386379505
>like clock ork

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>>386379220
I expect them to shit on Blue Spheres also like this:
http://www.gamesradar.com/sonic-mania-makes-a-clear-distinction-between-special-and-bonus-stages-ones-fun-the-other-is-far-from-it/

>>386379554
A really fucking good pad. D-pad is amazing.

What if the ring system was replaced with something else? Could another type of health system even work in Sonic?

Reminder sonic wasn't JUST about going fast, it was to go faster than you did last time and do better
That's why sonic 2 is the weakest classic game because they fell for their own marketing

What system are you guys gonna play on?

>>386379762
no

>>386379762
Ring system is pretty unique to Sonic and a staple of the series. I don't see what could replace it

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>>386369863
Anon that originally mixed the sprites here. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the cyan hue of the Mania sprite. Here's my latest update. I took a few minor details from Mania, but it's mostly just the mix with a larger palette.

>>386379706
I suck at Blue Spheres so I hate them. I actually find both UFOs and Half Pipe easier.

>>386379762
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4

Not Mania related, but I just wanna check to make sure we all agree that this is straight fire.

>>386379554
The d-pad is better than all of the current gen's d-pads

>>386379762
Ring system is perfect for Sonic, lets you be reckless but also encourages exploration

>>386378239
my gratuities, doctor

>>386379898
If you mean it needs to be sent straight into the fire, sure

>>386379898
I love it
well, I hate it, but it's definitely at least one part of Forces that captures the "so bad it's good" aspect from the adventure era.

>>386379554
Look I know it's no Saturn controller, but HORI makes good products.

>>386379913
>The d-pad is better than all of the controller that work with 3D games in mind
woah

>>386379993
*teleports behind you and kills you in one hit* THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO BE INFINIIIIIIIIIIIITE

>>386379762
Not at this point. They've been around for so long that they're ingrained as a part of the series' identity. To have a Sonic game without them would be too jarring.

>>386372810
>>>386372696
Fuck your self. I care about the name you faggot.

>>386376247
I think "Pinball-like momentum" make a hell of a lot more sense in 3D than 2D. Just look at Marble Blast.

>>386380115
Nobody cares, faggot.

>>386373251
The Sonic Portable name and the fact that beta builds of the game had gyro-controlled stages that were clearly meant for phones.

>>386376247
>or is autistic enough to think something as dumb as sonic utopia can work in a real game?
Why couldn't it?

>>386379762
Not only should the ring system be kept, I think more non-Sonic games would benefit from a similar health system. Freedom Planet, for example, is crippled because it dances around the idea of a ring system.

>>386380318
didn't the special stages have gyro controls as an option

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>>386379898
Everything (with the exception of City Height's theme which we don't even have a clean version of) about the music from Forces so far has been pretty disappointing. I only find myself liking small parts of Park Avenue and Infinite's theme.

>>386380173
I love marble rollers like Marble Blast and Monkey Ball but I don't think it would work for the Sonic formula. You couldn't do exploration based stages without the camera getting fucky and hazards would be really easy to totally skip over, marble rollers are better with shorter levels that test your ability to get past physics-based puzzles

if Takenobu Mitsuyoshi doesn't sing the opening to mania I'm going to RIOT

>>386380550
It doesn't need to be 1:1 like them, moron. What matters is that the actual physics system makes a lot more sense in 3D than 2D.

>>386380569
>yfw this is the ending theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruBmWuSoFAE

>>386372696
You made me waste my precious time on these autistic ramblings?

>>386380080
>modern 2D games somehow don't exist
>d-pads are also not present on modern controllers
Okay stupid.

>>386380857
>Reading a huge image full of text on 4chan

It's like you want to waste your time

>>386380674
I mean if we're talking about pinball-like momentum we should remember that pinball is mostly a 2D game

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>>386380857
>my precious time

>>386379706
The weird 3D on Genesis really hurt my head when doing Blue Sphere. Haven't touched it since early 90's so I might be better now. Them doing the strange UFO and turn it into a F-Zero clone was a neat idea however.

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You now realise that Taxman has done his job, and made the game, but it isn't enough. You now realise the entire Mania game rests in the hands of one ganjin to build hype, not Tee, not Tax, not Aaron

Tyson Hesse

You best hope that animation that drops on the 14th is so god tier that it breaks the internet, because for whatever reason, this game is not being advertised, on -any- of the console shops front page, hell, you can't even fucking pre-order it on the switch, so that animation needs to be ascended godtier. Sega have fully embraced cringe and WOAH IRONIC WACKINESS XD with Forces, and it is actually fucking working, now we need a genuine good cut scene, from the heart. The ONLY way you know if Mania is coming out on any console right now is if you manually search for it. No sales = No sequel. Hesse, you have the fucking floor. Save Sega from this game bombing, break the internet, save the cheerleader, save the world.

SEGA: Shall we just release a digital game with no physical, and NOT advertise it? AT ALL?

DRONT GRO TROO FARR MANIIIA TREAMM, I DRON'T WANT YOUR GRAME OUTRELLING MRINE!!!!!!!

This is in no way shape or form me saying this game will be shit, however, it doesn't matter how good or bad it is, if nobody knows it isn't fucking coming out.

As much as I trust Hesse, he'll never beat the Sonic CD star shot. Godspeed. The 14th is D-DAY, mark the date. The animation, depending on how good it is, will be the last hurrah to market this game, because Sega for whatever reason don't want to market there digital only game.

>>386380381
Because it's a dumb unfun open world autism fest. Classic sonic physics can't work in 3D. Period.

>>386381231
What is this, the 7th time, now?

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>>386372696
This is what we know of the Classic Sonic Canon. Say hi

>>386381125
My point stands. Yasuhara himself ALWAYS had 3D in mind, and you can even see this in Sonic R's level design.

>>386381427
>Sonic Mania only has 6 stages
What the FUCK

>>386373540
>>386373741
>>386373782
>wonder in my head "Why the Portable if it's on console"
>mfw I remembered its also a phone game

Sonic 4 is a fucking phone game

>>386381506
>This is what we know of

>>386370419
3&K looks retarded

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>>386381231
>mfw I made this copy-pasta and now people are adding too it every single time and people think it's one guy

I've created a meme I can't stop, however, I stand by my point that this shit needs more advertising.

>>386381231
do you still want to fuck tails

>>386381506
we know Sonic Mania is going to be longer than any of the classic games, although we don't know if they were counting 3&K as one game in that quote.

>>386381506
Tax said 'comparable to 3K in length', so there should be at least 4/5 more.

We know there's at least 1 other new stage, probably 2 or 3 more.

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>>386381231
I don't understand why people like Forces edge, even in an ironic way, they either go too far on where it's distracting to me or it just feels generic.

Anyways, Hesse will do a great job on the opening, I doubt he'll beat CD's opening as well but it'll certainly be a good thing to have side-by-side it. Also while Forces will most certainly outsell Mania it being $20 & having this much praise so far will probably do it just fine, by the way it is being advertised pretty well on social media I feel at least & in Japan, too bad they apparently don't give too much of a fuck about Sonic from what I've heard.

>>386381848
I'm guessing 5 new zones for the 5 hardboiled heavies, maybe even a 6th if the final zone is new

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>>386381396
>unfun
But then, how did I have fun with it?

>>386381901
I love these little drawings

>>386381946
you didn't have REAL fun
REAL fun is pressing X to awesome like the epic boost games

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>>386381787
I... I WANT TO F-.


tAILS... I...

>>386381946
It's called opinions dumb foxposter

>>386381946
>but then, how did I have fun playing with literal shit
Because you're an absolute subhuman buddy.

>>386382032
I'm not a boostfag, buddy. Neck yourself.

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>>386381954
Same, they're adorable. I wish we had scans of the booklet given out at SDCC just for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC0hV3dea9g

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Here's that promo poster leak for those who haven't seen it.

To be fair, it's like 2 months old, now.

Mania will sell well and a new contract will be signed for Taxman and Stealth to make mania 2 and 3.
After that, sonic can die happy

>>386381946
Shut up Tails!

>>386382247
I wonder how that even got leaked, seems like such a strange thing that sega accidentally put a still unrevealed zone on a random poster

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>>386382247
Fuck that, this is the only important leak.

>>386381946
Correction: You had fun for 5 minutes, turned the game off, didn't come back to it later and will eventually delete it off your computer because there's nothing of substance in the "game"

idea:
sonic metroidvania

>>386382234
EVERYBODY SUPER SONIC RACING
>>386382443
It's a case of one hand not paying attention to what the other one is doing. It's like that one Sun and moon pokemon that was leaked because it was on a trading card game boxset

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The truth is that Utopia's concept backed by an official studio could be an actual game and autists are upset over it. As a proof of concept, Utopia proofed that classic physics can absolutely work in 3D, the rest just comes down to competent level design.

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>>386382481
>posting the fake one

>>386382443
I think it's the same zone shown in the ice cube drawing from the instruction manuals they gave out at SDCC.

>>386382481
I'd there any proof this actually happened?

>>386382605
>Doo DO dod odo ODOOOO me a retardo!! :D

Yeah, we get it. Now fuck off.

>>386382554
sonic chrono adventure sucks

>>386382745
the only proof is in the image he posted

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REMINDER:

There will be 3 unlockable characters.

Rosy will be unlockable just by completing the game for the first time. At a point in the story, you will find that Amy has been trailing behind the guys on their adventure as she saves them from disaster towards the end of the game. shortly after that, the final boss will ensue and after the credits you will unlock her.

Rosy's special move is the "Hammer Rotation Attack," which is a revamped version of the Insta-shield Sonic had in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, performed with her hammer.

The second character, Metal Sonic, will be unlockable when you obtain half of the gold medals.

Metal Sonic's special ability will be the "Rocket Dash." Being able to dash without using a Spin Dash, and a mid air dash similar to the Flame Shield.

The third character, Mighty, will be unlockable by unlocking 98% of the Gold Medals.


Mighty's special move is that when he jumps, you can throw a ring a certain distance and pull yourself to it, somewhat as a throwback to Knuckles Chaotix. The move will simply be called the "Ring Rope".

Gold Medals are unlockable in one of three ways: Getting Perfects in the Blue Spheres bonus stages, completing challenges in the new "Challenge Mode" unlocked after completing the game, and completing Time Attack mode within a certain time for each act.

The Gold Medals will be used to unlock various things besides characters too, such as concept art, the option to use the original non-remixed music tracks for remixed zones, and a few various zones that aren't accessible through the main story, such as remixed zones from some of the spinoff games of the classic era, (Knuckles Chaotix, Sonic 3D Blast, etc) and one more brand new zone. The new brand new zone will be unlocked after obtaining every medal in the game.

The game will have 100 Gold Medals.
28 for the Time Trials of each conventional act.
22 for each of the Perfects in the Blue Sphere stages.
50 for the challenges in Challenge Mode.

(1/2)

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>>386382610
>Also posting a fake one

>>386382839
Explain how I'm wrong then. Rolling has physics in Utopia, slopes worked, speed could be built and conserved and jumps had to be calculated. What exactly made you think it was irredeemable?

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>>386382950
A new thing will unlock every 2% of the Gold Medals you obtain.

Metal Sonic and Mighty have no story attached, and will just play through the zones without it.

Debug mode and all of the unlockable non-story zones will be available in the Level Select screen.

Level Select won't be accessible no matter what until you beat the game at least once. After the credits, the game gives you the cheat code to unlock the Level Select menu in a fashion of how you unlocked them in the old games. But once you access Level Select once, it will be available as an option on the Title Screen. You can still enter the code if you desire to access it every time like in the old games though.

Challenge Mode will be on the Title Screen Menu too.

And as for the people who want Fang, Bean, and Bark to return, their cameos on the wanted signs in Mirage Saloon is more than just an easter egg. Each of them will be a boss in Act 1 of Mirage Saloon depending on which character you are playing as.

For Sonic, it will be Fang.
For Tails, it will be Bean.
For Knuckles, it will be Bark.

If you are playing as one of the unlockable characters in Mirage Saloon, Amy's Act 1 boss will be Bean.
Metal Sonic's will be Fang.
Mighty's will be Bark.

(2/2)

>>386382950
Is this shit gonna be on ps3?

>>386382950
>>386383059
I guess this is somewhat plausible.

>>386382950
>the "leaker" who blatantly stole ideas invented in previous Mania threads for his leak and expected nobody to notice was actually Tomposter
Wow, that's some advanced faggotry

I honestly wonder how Sega is going to try to market Forces after Mania is out. Is there anyone out there that actually cares about the game?

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>>386383059
As for the intro:

Keiku Utoku will be returning to sing over an instrumental produced by Tee Lopes and Hyper Potions.

The animation itself will feature snippets of Sonic blasting through Green Hill, Tails running through Chemical Plant, Knuckles gliding and punching through Hydrocity, Eggman flying through Flying Battery, and Heavy Gunner flying through Stardust Speedway. Then you'll see Sonic Tails and Knuckles running across a new greenery looking area and all eventually meeting up together, similar to what we saw in the Pre Order Trailer. Then they will get on the elevator and come out to see Studiopolis Zone, and you can faintly see Eggman and Heavy Gunner in the background. Sonic and friends will all 3 start running through Studiopolis together and then the Sonic Mania logo will appear on screen.

>>386383059
>>386382950
Are you fucking twelve????
Sonic, Tails and Knuckles is the perfect roster. ANYTHING extra will ruin the game.

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>>386382745
The image shows basically all we have when it comes to "proof". The only thing to add onto it is that SonicRetro post was made before the screenshot was found/uploaded. Not too long after the post though someone else tweeted out the screenshot here:
https://twitter.com/MegaDriveBrad/status/891861070423502849

>>386382537
>5 minutes
If you head straight to the goal and don't explore or play around at all.

>>386382950
>"""""""""""Rosy"""""""""""
>Metal
>fucking Mighty
(You)

>>386373898
I bet you also think Sonic 06 isn't Adventure 3.

>>386383159
It sounds cool but it's not real. I came up with the Metal Sonic idea a few threads back (except I said he should have a special peel-out and nerfed hyper flash) and Amyfags have been harping on those abilities of hers for ages. The fact he even calls Amy "Rosy" is enough to discredit the leak.

>>386383337
>Playing around in a world of nothing for more than 5 minutes

Sandbox games need more to them than physics display. You don't get anything for finding or collecting things, nothing different is accomplished the longer you spend. The only thing it offers is Labyrinth, and when you find that then the game is finished

Proof of Concepts are nice, but there's no reason to spend forever in a realm of nothing

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>>386373898

>>386382950
>tfw I was discussing Amy Rose's abilities working on one button several threads ago

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>>386369434
I'm going to replay the Sonic trilogy but every time I jump I'll say "Fuck you SEGA" for making me wait 8 days instead of releasing it right the fuck now. They have NO fucking idea how much of a fucking torture this is to me.

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>>386375375

basically anything that the romhacks have proven are conceptually sound

playable amy with Hammer
character control switching on the fly
ect.

I want classic renditions of modern characters purely for the sake of it.

>>386383657
I'd be cool with Blaze showing up

>>386383603
>Proof of Concepts are nice, but there's no reason to spend forever in a realm of nothing
Unless you want some place where you can finally be allALONE

>>386383640
Post it again, I wasn't here.

>>386382950
>Rosy will be unlockable
Not really a stretch, she could be in and there is a demand for her.
>The second character, Metal Sonic
Eh, I mean it could-
>The third character, Mighty
You fucked up, this is the part where nobody believes your shit.

>>386379453

is
it
wireless

>>386370592
Best Sonic

>>386383284
this

>>386370592
Me
Twice.

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>>386379220

threadly reminder

>>386383640
I would have Amy's ability be an enhanced insta shield, and if you use it right before landing on the ground then she gets a super jump

So think they should just now just make 2D Sonic games and completely stop trying to do 3D which has been meh at best and just unplayable at worse

>>386384014
Spin ball was fucking tough. Played back through all the games like 10 years ago but said fuck spin ball. Beat it once as a kid.

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>>386380173

marble blast ultra's gameplay would make for a great kind of a special stage.

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>>386384115
They basically have already stuck to 2D Sonic games only with how much 2D the Boost games and seemingly even Forces has. I still find a 3D Sonic game has potential though, it just needs the right minds & team to pull it off.

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>>386383657
List of characters in the order I'd enjoy them being included

>Amy
>Chaotix (Espio, Vector, Charmy in that order)
>Cream/Vanilla
>Characters from Sonic the Fighters (Other than Honey, makes for a good Classic Villains side story)
>Blaze
>Rouge
>Literally offing yourself
>Metal/Shadow

>>386384332
These stages doesn't seem to be so big, hope we don't have to loop around them 5 times to get that damn emerald

>>386383912
No.

>>386384332
They are trying to have it both ways and honestly fails at both.

>>386384065
Reminder Jim Sterling liked Sonic 4 and didn't see anything wrong with its physics and insulted everybody who had a problem with it.

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>>386384350
I want Big
I don't know why but I always fucking loved him

>>386384585
must...... kill...... every..... "professional"....... reviewer....

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>>386384654
He only works in 3D because in a Classic game he would be 2big

Omega would make a badass boss fight...

>>386384350
>All that waifu shit above my boy Metal
You're diseased, you know.

>>386384785
What does Metal offer that Sonic doesn't? Literally every game he's playable he's just a Sonic clone. He's always going to be a Sonic clone too, because Sega wants Metal Sonic to just be Sonic

Female characters or not they offer more than Metal would

>>386384768
They would never do it because most Sonic fans hate him. But I always found him enjoyable. But I also love fishing games so having a whole character built around fishing brought me joy in Adventure. Even used the Dreamcast fishing controller for his part.

>>386384985
He was different in SA2

>>386375375
Metroidvania.

3K introduced seamless transitions between areas, and CD featured backtracking. Both featured exploration.

Logical next step would be to combine the two.

Sonic's got plenty of abilities already that could be gradually unlocked (Spin Dash, Insta Shield, etc)

>>386371230
Sonic Team didn't do that GBA version though. It didn't even get a Japan release. Just some western dev port team

>>386384332
>>386384115

boost formula is the winning concept for 3d sonic as far as I'm concerned purely in the fact that it's the most revisited and refined, and when it's done right it's absolutely fucking stellar.

however it's marred by
>sonic team hiding it behind other gameplay modes or hiding a good chunk of levels for it in 2D and only using it in half measures
>the actual amount of resources needed to make a game long enough that is made of nothing but these levels actually able to justify full price

i mean it's no secret that the variable gameplay shit is done as padding but it may be a bit hard to come up with 80$ worth of content to just go fast through

>>386382153
>I'm not a boostfag
Stay in denial.

>>386385078
>port team
>port
It's not a port nigga

>>386384785
>>>/aco/1582142
and stay here

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What if Sonic Mania has/had multiple difficulty modes kind of like Sonic Jam did?

>>386385229
Holy fuck that thread is so hot. Thanks for the new fetish anon.

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Anyone have some good Sonic fangames I can play so I can easy my patience for Sonic Mania? Sonic Time Twisted was pretty neat.

>>386385294
Fine by me but don't gimme any of that "good job faggot, now play the game 100% on ultra hard for the TRUE ending" bullshit

>>386385294
No ring mode?

>Ending theme is a FutureFunk version of Sweet dream:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMR9UE-hPdI
>yfw

If you don't play the game with Sonic AND Tails together, then don't bother. You're not playing it the canon way.

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>>386385075

>>386372696
>muh elevator argument
As bad as Sonic 4 is, the amount of straw grabbing is fucking abysmal in these threads.

The same people will then contradict themselves when CD is mentioned because CD has a stage which only solidifies that the elevator buttons mean fuck all.

The only thing that will kill sonic 4 will be Metal Sonic's return retconning Episode II.

Get out of here with the straws

>>386385517
>When i found out Tails is a boy, i was in denial for MONTHS

>>386385154
It's never been good. It's only "winning" because they're so godawful the only thing they can do that looks passable is a goddamn Temple Run game with some extra spectacle. That's not Sonic in the least.

>>386385443
They already do that with getting the Chaos Emeralds, doing it on higher difficulty would be a pointless addition

>>386374746
>elevator button doesn't show CD
>CD is still in the game meaning the elevator doesn't actually determine anything
Well that's a lovely proof you have there :^)

>>386384985
He's been a clone every time he's been playable because nobody understands that Metal would be perfect for speedy aerial-based gameplay. He could have an ability like hyper flash/flame shield or just general airdashes or you could even use him to experiment by making him the classic character with a homing attack, except make it something like Spectre Knight's homing attack so the player has to manage their trajectory while keeping their speed. The possibilities are endless, it's not Metal Sonic's fault that the people who could make him interesting choose to say "wow he's like Sonic but a robot and that's amazing, make him a reskin"

>>386374746
>Mario Kart 321
god, this serie was really milked to death.

>>386377712
Beyonce