Admit it, it wasn't that bad.

>>386359404
Yes it was.

>>386359404
I actually replayed it recently, it wasn't as bad as I remember from the first time.

It also felt a bit liberating to play as Connor after three games in a row as Ezio. I still completely understand why people dislike him, but I kind of enjoy his character now.

If anything, he's probably the most idealistic of all the assassins in the series that I've experienced (have played till Black Flag/Freedom's Cry.) I also enjoyed his honesty and his drive, it was a pity that everyone around him were fucking idiots.

>>386359520
It was much better than came out later (excluding Black Flag)

>>386359638
this.

I appreciated all the new animations.
Haytham was good.
That's about it.

WHERE IS CHARLES LEE?!

I never finished it and haven't touched the seroes at all since. I was a huge Ass Creed fan before that game.

Yes, it was that bad.

I liked it but the part I liked most was the boat missions. But then they made a whole game of those and it got very boring very fast. fuck AC as a series bruh

I absolutely hated the writing and the characters, but I loved the gameplay, Connor's outfit was cool and the tomahawk was boss.

>>386360360
This. In combat Connor felt like a colossal badass.

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I remember watching the trailer everyday like a fucking autist being hyped for it, fuck this fucking game. After finishing it I gave up on AC and Ubisoft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W6JsIyiQHE

WHERE IS HE? WHERE IS CHARLIES LEE

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Only ever played black flag, should I try any of the other games?
Unity and syndicate looks okay but 50 fucking GB, why.

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>>386359404
The ending of the game made me so mad, only ME3's ending managed to replicate that dreadful feeling. I could just FEEL ubisoft saying "here we gon kill desmond bcuz we need to milk this shit for all that it's worth, enjoy "

>>386359404
This is legitimately the worst AAA I've ever played, and I'm not exaggerating. (Granted, since this game I have mostly avoided hype and AAA games anyways.)
>chase sequences out the ass, including the final mission
>Connor was awfully written, and no contrarian "haha he was SUPPOSED to be dumb and manipulated at all times" can make it right. Not to mention pretty bland voice acting.
>the pacing was entirely fucked with the story jumping ahead years at a time to shoehorn Connor into every memorable historical event possible
>enormous, barren wilderness that gets boring after the third time you run on those well crafted linear routes through the trees
>the entire game was catered to first time players, or people with zero video game experience, with training missions into THE SIXTH SEQUENCE. Absolutely insulting.
>the setting hampered the freerunning, verticle gameplay that made the previous games so good. I'll give ubi half a pass here because they kept it historically accurate, but there was nothing fun or exciting about climbing one big church and two story houses constantly
>still full of bugs and non-responsive movement from previous entries despite being in development for twice as long
I could go on but it was just a lazy effort with almost no redeemable qualities. This game cucked me hard and it was the straw that broke the camel's back; I haven't preordered or bought a game on hype since. It was a good preview of modern day Ubi.

>>386360442
Randy what are you doing in an Assassin's Creed thread?

>>386360608
Try AC2 and Brotherhood, AC became unplayable after black flag because they decided to change the gameplay but they just made it worse

>>386359638
There are some things that it did better, like having a likeable cast of characters compared to Unity and Syndicate (I fucking hate Arno) but there's still the mess of Connor's characterisation in the last quarter of the plot. AC3 is probably the worst case of Ubishit's half-assed craftmanship in their entire lineup. The elements for the game to be really great were there and in place but the project almost very clearly lost steam and became a mess as soon as Connor left Achilles to fully help the Patriots. Suddenly, missions started becoming extremely repetitive, the plot became more and more concerned with shoehorning Connor as the unsung hero of every major conflict during the Revolution, you start to realise that side activities hardly unlocks anything, crafting is meaningless, the homestead (while a great way to expand on Connor's character) was a mess of subplots that don't have a proper place in the grand scheme of things, you move to New York where the game had even worse performance while looking even more empty, etc.

AC3 is frustrating because you just know the 12.12.12 deadline fucked up the entire project. The devs just couldn't finish more than half of the things they implemented so the whole game feels extremely half-baked. It's such a goddamned shame, I almost wish they could go back, remaster this game and actually finish it.

>>386359404
it needs an option to skip the first 3 hours. that shit is horrendous and makes KH2's opening seem fine by comparison.

>>386360856
I don'r recognise that meme, elaborate.

>>386359404
I didnt like having to play as a little niglet playing hide & seek, then as a niglet in town, then as a niglet in achiless' house. Worst pacing in an action game ever

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>>386361182
Here you go, summerfag.

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>>386360476

>MFW I never saw this trailer and just finished watching it for the first time.

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goddamnit are there ANY good games where I can roam around North America as an injun, lead raids into villages, and fight British or French military units?

>>386359404
I don't know, I never finished it.

>>386359404
it really, really was. The feeling of disappointment I experienced is still palpable.

>>386361247
Okay, lots of badass in there. Where's the Randy part?

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>>386359404
It was trash.
>>386359638
Something being worse doesn't make what came before it any less bad.

>>386359404
2nd worst AAA game I've ever played behind Dragon Age Inquisition. Didn't this game basically kill the series? I think the sales dropped for every assassin's creed game to release after 3. I know syndicate wasn't even a top 10 seller for the year, it came out, which is pretty abysmal for an AAA ubisoft release. Origins will probably be the final nail in the coffin.

>>386359404
worse than black flag, better than unity and syndicate

>>386359404
Ass Creed is just a bad franchise in general.

>>386362108
>Didn't this game basically kill the series?
No. Black Flag still sold shittons. ACU, however, did kill the series somewhat. Syndicate sold the least.

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>>386361380
Feel my pain, anon.

>>386359404
Don't have to admit to anything, I'm a Connor apologist.
And AC3 is one of my favourite game in the series.

WHERE

>>386363705
IS

>>386364083
CHORLES

>>386359404
>ss bad that there are people who stop playing the franchise after this one

>>386360476
Why are these big AAA companies so good at making trailers but so bad at making games?

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>>386363705
>>386364083
>>386364174
>>386360542
So bad it even ruined Black Flag.

>>386360946
Unity is objectivly the best game

>>386360223
Same.

>>386361380
dugie rap

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>>386365271
Honestly anyone who doesn't think this was the best is underage.

>>386365989
ACB = ACBF > AC2 > ACRogue > ACRevelations > AC3 > Unity > Syndicate >>> power gap >>> shovelware like ACFC, ACL

>>386365989
>inb4 16 replies about Black Flag being anything but reddit tier "muh feels!" full of tailing sequences

>>386365989
This a close second. But in unity enemies are actually a tough fight and cant get 1 shotted. Also it has a functioning stealth system (walking in crowds isnt stealth thats blending in)

>>386366137
ACB was mostly Rome which got boring pretty fast.

>>386366939
Not that anon, but it also was really short, It took me 8 hours the last time I ran through it, granted I didn't bother trying to 100% it. It had some cool ideas they executed well, shame we didn't get them in a full fledged game.

The Frontier was awesome. I could spend hours just wandering the forest hunting.

Haytham was great, and I bet Ubishit regret killing him.

AC Rouge gives a good Haytham Fix.

>>386365989
>tfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0L4gvq-8f0

It's better than the first and Syndicate. That's not exactly high praise though. Still, it improved the combat, the movement, and created the ship minigame that spawned two full titles. It's not the dogshit people pretend it is but it's still one of the worst entries in a franchise that has its fair share of low quality games.

>>386364403
(((No idea.)))

>>386367695
>the best character of AC3 isn't the main character
Another good Haytham fix is the book of AC3, it was way better than what I expected.

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>>386367696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSVHx23ByhM

>>386367946
Well to be honest you play as Haytham for good chunk of the game.

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What's the actual /v/erdict on this one? Seems pretty split.

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>>386359404

>First AC game since it was free a while back
>literal disgust after playing it
I don't understand how this franchise even have fans to the point where Ubi use to release this shit year after year. What's the fucking appeal?

>>386368015
These musics, along with the game, have a special place in my heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UVi5Pzjjs0

>>386368189
Not that guy but it provides the complete back story of Haytham (his life) and what he gets up to after he leaves America the first time.
He gets up to some pretty fun shit.

>>386368552
Bretty gud but hardly the best of the series that some hail it as. I'd rather play Sid Meier's Pirates! for my pirate fix, BF was so half-assed and repetitive to be really enjoyable. In all honesty, I can't really call any AC game as the best in the series. They each make strides in some areas while fucking up in others.

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Anyone ever play this?

>>386368720
Laughably, Haytham is one of the Most developed characters in the entire series. Having presence and reference in 4 games.

Didn't Connor officialy die alone and bald after his wife ran away with another man?

>>386368675
Best OST in the series by far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXmaNjuwdd8

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>>386360476
It's misleading af and borderline false advertisement. Non gameplay trailers should fuck off unless they can do it very well like the Halo 3 believe trailer.

>>386368580
To be fair, the first is by far the worst with gameplay and did not age well. I love the setting, how each city feels unique, and how fucking dark it got at times, but it's extremely clunky and repetitive. 2 makes enormous improvements to pretty much all of the weaknesses of the first. I'm not saying Ubisoft open world games are amazng but the Ezio trilogy is the high point of the series, if you get a chance to play it cheap I'd highly suggest doing so.

>>386368552
Usually praised by nu-anons who didn't play 2 or Brotherhood. It's an average pirate and assassin game but people have a serious "muh shanty songs!" boner for it.

>>386362724
>I'm a Connor apologist.
I want to see you come up with excuses for everything wrong Connor did in the story.

>>386368920
Dying Light's CG trailer was great. It shows shit you end up doing in the game almost exactly the same way. The scenes in it even detail something that comes up earlier on in the plot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IM3YE0BZuo

>>386368883
I played it, I liked it at the time because my psp was pretty much all that I had. If I replayed it now I wouldn't like it.

>>386368906
They're all so good, I can't choose just one song. This is imo one, if not the, best vidya OST ever created.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9geXVAOFDg

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>>386362724
>you share Filipino fish mongering board with people this unabashedly tasteless

2>4>1>the rest

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>>386369418
>The first one better than anything
When was the last time you actually played the first one? It's literally a tech demo, which seems to be the way Ubisoft work: They release a tech demo and then polish it up with a genuine good game like AC2 then release another tech demo like AC3 then follow it up with a good game like AC4.

>>386369610
So this place doesn't even hide the fact it's Reddit anymore

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Post YFW first unlocking this in Assassins Creed 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1O3mOhz_RY

>>386368954
>muh shanty songs!
I bet you hate Vice City too

>>386369903
VC actually has good gameplay and characters. BF does not.

>>386368552
Rogue is better

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So what's the general opinion on Syndicate? I enjoy it myself and I would keep playing it if it didn't run so horribly on my PC. It's far from the best Assassin's Creed game but the era it represents is enough for me to keep playing it. Also, Evie is a cutie.

Similar to Brotherhood, all in one city.
Plays like any other recent game in the franchise, but has a completely unexpected and unadvertised diversion to World War 1 London halfway through for a few missions.

>>386371202
Why is the guy on the left dressed as the Mad Hatter from Batman Arkham City?

>>386369082
Like most Native Americans at the time he was fulll of pride but was to naive

Looking back the Kenway boys kinda all got fucked didn't they?

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wtf happened to this fucking franchise after Rogue??
Unity was a masterpiece of graphics and art design but the gameplay was the biggest pile of ubisharted crap I ever laid my eyes upon, the laughably bad story didn't help either
Syndicate tried something but it was still plagued by the same cancer that made its predecessor such a let down
talking about the franchise 'standards' here, I'm not trying to compare asscreed games to something else but only to themselves

get your shit straight you fucking canadian assholes

>>386372063
He's British.

>>386371202
Kinda meh and way too outrageous for my tastes. Jacob and Evie are both annoying as fuck protagonists, those QTE sequences in the boss fights are fucking pathetic and it still has that half-baked feeling that all Ubi games have for some reason. I really dislike the direction they went with the combat and clothing too.

>americans clapping

So, whats the most up to date happenings in the "Modern Day" Storyline?

Will origins ignore it completely?

>>386372470
Yup. Unity was an attempt to reboot the franchise, but people didn't like it so back to the tried and tested style for Syndicate.

>>386372263
People here jack off to Desmond to much but the other main Assassins either get super fucked or forgotten.

Haythem was led a lie most of his life then forced to fight his own son

Edward joins the assassins just because he's guilty of his greed but gets killed by an elf


Connor is I don't fucking know what's Templar propaganda and what's not for him but it's still a shit life for him.

Shay is just around

Arno is litterally never gonna get anything now

>>386359404
Fucking Ubisoft cut the part that give Connor some meaning and closure as a character. I would have disliked him much less if this was actually ingame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6d79JHh3cU

>>386372470
Fuck you Unity is by far some of the greatest changes in gameplay the franchise has

>>386372569
>He's British.
A green jacket and top hat with that facial hair? He looks like someone who's hiddden a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, if you know what I mean

>>386369902
What happened with that storyline anyway?

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>>386372470
>Unity was a masterpiece of graphics and art design but the gameplay was the biggest pile of ubisharted crap I ever laid my eyes upon, the laughably bad story didn't help either

still mad to this very day because of this

>>386372730
you're right, too bad it changed for the worse, waay worse

>>386372828
>What happened with that storyline anyway?
no Idea I refused to play 3 after all the warnings I got from people so my experience ends with revelations

>>386372949
Yea okay people complained for years to change the gameplay up and they did

Now Unity is considered trash while shit like Syndicate is praised

>>386361247
>snag badass sunglasses
Why do you cringey whites always use the word "snag"?

>>386372949
>>386372470

>wahhh Unity is to different

Unity is by one the best AC games the story might've shit but has story ever been good in AC?

>>386371202
>trannies and stronk wymyn in 19th century England
It's a joke

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>>386372807
You clearly haven't heard of Robert Topping, then.

>>386373093
Unity was trash for other reasons you single minded fucknut.

>>386373093
it's called getting monkeypaw'd
and they're both shit in my opinion
>>386373335
being different isn't the problem here anon, there's nothing better than a franchise changing for the good
the problem is that Unity (and by extension Syndicate too, at least in part) have such a big difference in quality in its various aspects that makes you wonder what kind of fucking drugs were they taking while in development

and if you want some good criticism, for me they should focus more (like the biggest portion of the gameplay) on the freerunning/parkour mechanics that made the franchise successful in the first place, and not just some 'keep button pressed to do cool looking thing until you are on top of the tower' bullshit
shit now I have to replay the first two

>>386369246
You're right.
It's funny how the devs that made one of the most misleading trailers ever (for Dead Island)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqrG1bdGtg

...are the same devs that made that trailer that shows off the parkour, weapons, zombies, and looting-type gameplay.

>>386373649
I haven't played it. Did they really include fucking trannies ?

>>386374189
Cross dresser CIA man (female).

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Let's take a moment to appreciate the musics and graphics of ACU because these are the only appreciable things in this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qHd8yRAv4c&list=PLezSenZVzpMWyWw1pE7G3cPfA_Gg9WBGK&index=5

>>386374294
Wew.

>>386360476
member when assassins were about sneaking around and not being a one man army?

>>386359404
Only AC I didnt bother to finish and Asscreed is my guilty pleasure. I know the games are shit but I swallow them like fresh cuckjuice. AC3 is just boring. And there is no reason at all to play it now due to Black Flag being just a much better version.

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>>386374189
One of the insignificant side character is a "trans" black FtM, pic related. There's also a cross-dresser, but that's more of a shitty disguise than anything.

WHERE

>>386374990
This is the crossdresser I was referring to anon. There's nothing to really indicate that she's trans, being a man may have just been her cover. I mean, Black Flags had a woman disguised as a man too.

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>playing asscreed II as a dumb kid
>oh man I sure wish there were more games with this exact formula!

>mfw after tens of copypasted soulless ubishit """games"""

>>386374615
This seriously fucks up the series. Feels like running away is roleplaying, since you can easily cut down every one, easier than fleeing, even

>>386375292
In her file, they pretty much say she had two identity, a rich female one and a male smuggler one, and that she abandoned her female identity. So I guess she is technically a tranny.

>>386359404
I saw my younger siblings play it when I hadn't touched the series in a few years instead of playing one every year. It was worse than I remember. I was in some sort of abusive relationship with this series.

>>386375564
I guess we gotta set a course for intercourse to solve this mystery.

>>386359404
The setting is probably one of the best. The wooded areas, snowy areas, ocean, and colonial towns all felt nice. Connor wasn't as god awful as people say but he was far from being good. He could have been so much better. I think the modern day parts were the biggest drawbacks to the game.

>>386359404
before unity and syndicate it was by far the worst asscreed game.

>>386368552
wants to be a pirate game and an assassins creed game. They shouldve dropped the AC branding and story elements and just go full on the pirate stuff.

>>386368580
AC2 improved A LOT

>>386368954
>It's an average pirate game
You're full of shit. There's next to no other pirate games to begin with. It has some of the best sailing in a game with that kind of gameplay. It doesn't matter if you drum up some some flaw with the pirate gameplay because it has no competition to top it and probably won't for years.
>it's an average assassin game
People like it because they can just ignore everything assassin and go be a pirate.

>>386370724
Rogue is an expansion pack for 4 being sold on its own, it's short as fuck.

>>386360476
god that trailer was great
I wasn't expecting anything groundbreaking because it was just a ubisoft game, it was good for an AC game
Never understood everyone jizzing over the naval combat, it was good but not so incredible that the next entry should have it as a main focus
4 was what really turned me off of AC games and ubisoft in general

>>386360608
o shet dood go play the ones with ezio
they're great

>>386376152
Sid Meier's Pirates! came out in 2004 and is a much better pirate game than BF. Still holds up to this day too.

>>386375413
You were a dumb kid so it's all good. I was an adult when the first two came out and was experienced enough to know the games were terribly outdated within their own genre so the fact they were billed as like a technological marvel infuriated me. To this day I haven't met a single adult that enjoyed the series.

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>>386375413
WHAT DID YOU DO ANON?
YOU HAVE BROUGHT RUIN TO OUR GAMES!

>>386376328
Pirates! barely has any real sailing mechanics and it's far from being an action game, it's more like a pirate management game. The only thing I can think of that comes close to Black Flag is an old gmod game mode called Pirate Ship Wars.

Anyone interested in playing Unity coop on PC? I still play it from time to time but I've never touched the coop, there's simply no one to play with.

>>386376328
>Sid Meier's Pirates!
More like Sid Meier's Cuckolds

>>386376152
>there isn't much shit floating around in this toilet, but the logs I do get to eat are great!
Not a great argument, just because there aren't many pirate games doesn't make BF any better.

>>386376203
it may be short, but dicking around the seas and rivers was great
the legendary naval battles in rogue are the apotheosis of naval combat as far as videogames go

>>386376369
I was 21 wen ACII came out and enjoyed it, and its two sequels, thoroughly
I guess we have different tastes, to each its own

>>386372828
turns out humans were the slaves of super humans and they stole the mindcontrolling appels. The earth got nuked by a solar flare, humans lost most of their knowledge and everything became a myth. People found the items over the years and became powerful people (like atilla with his sword of mars, or the pope). At 2012 another solarflare would hit the earth and they had to activate some God temples to activate the shields. This however also powered the prison of the evil goddess juno so juno broke free and lives in the internet (long story) and the earth averts crisis

>>386376513
Yeah but it definitely has more depth in the pirating aspects, despite being a series of minigames in the conflict department. I do agree with you though, BF does the action bits better than Pirates does. I was really hoping that Skull & Bones game would have been an a combination of both BF and Pirates! What a fucking letdown that was.

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>>386359404
I drop games immediately if any of the clothing or weapons clip. I don't play Nintendo garbage or gay indie shit, so I'm limited to one (1) game. Why are developers so fucking lazy?

>>386376748
FUCK

WRONG THREAD

FUUUUUUCK

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>>386376805
I am also monitoring the pettiest reasons thread.

>>386371202
>Also, Evie is a cutie.
she is super cute but her plot induced retardation really sucks. She and jacob were a great pair but instead of talking with eachother for 1 second they constantly fuck up and then bitch at eachother. Why doesnt jacob run any of his plans by evie? Why doesnt evie ever ask jacob for backup? No idea, they just stay away from eachother and then get mad when they have issues to the point they want to separate.

And then evie gets POOed instead of going for wincest

>>386376748
>>386376805
Oddly apt though considering AC3, BF and Rogue did have some pretty bad clipping weaponry.

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>>386372635
>>Arno is litterally never gonna get anything now

>toss away your legacy for some sweet redhead ex-templar pussy.
>odds 1 in a million
>fucking make it, he actually managed it, the madman
>she dies seconds before they finally are free to fuck eachother silly

>>386359404
The only parts I really liked from 3 were the naval battles.
I haven't played black flag, but would I like it based on this?

>>386376980
To be able to view the life of someone through the Animus, you gotta have a DNA sample of someone who is a direct descendant of the person you are looking into. In AC: Syndicate, you play can play as both of the twins.


They definitely fucked and had a baby, unless they changed the rules for DNA memory while I wasn't looking.

>>386377173
Yes, it's more focused on naval stuff and the mechanics were improved a lot.

>>386377173
yes
beware of the twenty minute long unskippable cutscene at the start that nobody talks about for some reason tho

>>386368552
Great pirate game, terrible Assassin's Creed game. That simple.

>>386377319
i thought they made it so you could play the memories of other people as an excuse to make not-ubisoft selling asscreed games in asscreed.

>>386377319
I think the fact they are twins or something made you able to revisit both their memories. Or offspring of jacob fucked that of evie years down the line and you got some connection that way

>>386377319
they changed the rules, from ACIV onward you just need a dna sample to access anyone genetic memories

It was alright in some parts, and then terrible in other parts. Also fuck the underground tunnels.

>>386377463
>>386377549

The DNA sample can be viewed by anyone, but it has to come from someone with both twins as their ancestor.

>>386377705
maybe they have different genetic samples and they just patched them up in a single experience/story

also
>expecting consistency from ubishart

>>386377668
The underground tunnels kind of spooked me so I just avoided them altogether.

>not having a free copy of Assassin's Creed III (and Splinter Cell and Rayman Origins and Beyond Good & Evil and Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon and Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time and The Crew) from the Ubi30 giveaway

I will never stop laughing at people who paid $60 for games that I got for free.

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Daily reminder he sacrificed himself so you could live.

>>386377668
>Also fuck the underground tunnels.
What the fuck was even the point of these? I forgot all about them after the mission they introduced the concept to us. Was it supposed to be fast travel? Because I kinda recall that the game still had regular fast travel anyway.

>>386378403
>Is forced to romance some shitty girl because of plot
>pretends to be controlled by athena so he can stab her in the womb

>>386359404
it wasn't unity.

>>386378760
Don't forget
>next game
>oh yeah she was totally evil and working for the templars
>totally
>she had to die so don't feel bad

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>>386378403
based
he didn't die tho, he faked his death so he could free himself from all the assassin/templar bullshit and pursue his lifelong dream: being a gay pornstar

>>386379363
>templars dicking your ass throughout various time periods

>>386379342
In brohood you could use eaglevision and see her footprints being red. Still I found it rather stupid some templar becomes an assassin but then converts back into the templars. Felt very forced to get desmond in a coma.

>>386379363
Considering he sat through a lot of bleeding effect he is pretty insane by now

>>386360223
I did finish it and it was terrible. You literally touch a rock and then you die. I refuse to play another AC game ever since, even though I has a huge fan of the series back then

>>386379495
>Holes in Time brought to you by Abstergo Entertainment

>>386359404
It was bad enough to make me never play an ass creed game after. And i liked all of previous ass creeds quite a lot actually.

>>386379681
death doesn't matter in asscreed because cyber ghosts are canon. i don't get why ubisoft hasn't done anything with that, selling immortality would be a lot more profitable than using the animus to make video games.

>>386359404
3 was so bad i couldnt face completeing it............. terrible maps, terrible story, unexplained and needlessly complex trading system..........tacked on sailing..............garbage, boring garbage
never bought another AC game again after that

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Who else died more in Unity than every other game in the series combined?

I was going for full stealth gear, and left health upgrades for last, and the very milisecond combat started there was always some asshole drawing his one/two-hit kill gun. I would love the harder combat if not for the gun/flashbang spamming.

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>>386379363

>>386380215
Yeah, it was extremely punishing because in a fight a soldier would back out and draw his gun to fuck you up. While it could feel cheap it actually made it an option to avoid combat. In older games I didnt feel bad for tripping an alarm because I could just rape them all with my million tricks (smokebombs alone allow you to cut down a small army while they are stunned). In unity putting in the effort of stealth at least meant you didnt have a realistic chance of getting your brains aired out