Am I a pleb if I like FFXV more than FFVII?

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>>386351418
yes, also reminder:

>>386351664
Did you edit that post? How in the fuck?

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>>386351865
they deleted the 1st one

>>386351664
>FFXII part of the golden age

Nah. The rest is spot on though

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>>386351928
I thought including the image was important

XV-kun, no matter how much you're trying to deny it, FFXV is and will always be one of the worst video game in the history.

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>>386352018

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>>386352051
I'm not XV-kun, m8, I just really enjoyed the game. Eos is comfy.
The story definitely could have been delivered better, but the banter and character building between the main 4 made up for that.
Some of the things that could have been done better
>story delivery (especially in the second half of the game, but apparently they're working on that?)
>cutscene quality at important moments
>amount of cutscenes in general (MGSV would be a good reference for cutscene amount/delivery, at least for the first half of that game.)
>hard mode that isn't just buffed enemies/nerfed you (ie combat improvements)
>have the important story parts that were in the Universe (Plat demo, Brotherhood, Kingsglaive) have been in the game instead, or even in addition to the Universe, like how Mega Man Maverick Hunter X had the unlockable OVA in game.)
>just more focus on Cor, Luna, Regis, Gentiana, Ravus, Emporer Aldercapt, Caligo and Loqi (again this might get rectified in a future update/release. fingers crossed)
>Halve the number of useless fetch quests, or at least let you take on multiple hunts and quests at the same time.

Yeah there are absolutely flaws but I really enjoyed it overall.The ending still gets me.

>>386351418
FFXV is more of an adult story compared to any other so no you are a normie with good taste

>>386353497
the characters looks like a giant fucking faggot who looks like they suck dick for a living, anon.

>>386353861
>adult story
>with a naming sense straight from your middle school fantasies
>with a design straight from xXxEdGEloRDxXx sketchbook
>with a design like your usual faggotry emo millenials

>>386354213
Every Final Fantasy character is a gigantic faggot, get over it you stupid cunt and try to enjoy something for once

>>386354213
If you start spacing out and scream about "edge" FFXV is clearly not a game for you since it wasn't meant for 12 yo kids

>>386354335
Oh yeah every FF characters looks like one but this one is way too over the top. These faggots looks like they're trying way too hard to look cool.

Also the fact that they're trying to do this sci fi shit is so laughable. It is one of the most cringeworthy game I have ever seen in my entire life. Especially after knowing the fact that someone spent 10 years to create this colossal faggotry.

>>386354507
>since it wasn't meant for 12 yo kids
But it literally is anon.

Look at that character design.
Look at that naming sense
Look at that settings

It literally screams 12 years old.

>>386354765
>t. 12 yo with r/ddit spacing

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>>386354213
>>386354616
>>386354765
here's your (You)

>>386351418
There is a fundamental misunderstanding of the roots of your problem, anonymous.
You aren't a pleb because you like FFXV more than VII, you are a pleb because you like FF to begin with.

>>386356232
this

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>>386351418
FFXV is better than 7 so no.
Aranea also has bigger tits than Tifa and more personality too.

>>386351664
Reminder of what? That picture is like 4 years old.

>>386352051
XIII-kun no matter how much you try to deny it, XV will always be one of the best FFs and games in history.

>>386352051
>this much desperate shit taste
Prove it faggot.

>>386351418
Nah it is legitimately better. FF7 is overrated as fuck and characters develop even less in that than side characters in 15.

>>386352051
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>386353497
The multiplayer is a good indicator of combat improvements because of the new magic and healing, the improved katana, daggers and shuriken and complete rebalancing of MP, also no more item spam because you're not able to use items in combat

>>386354213
Are you ok? Are you sperging out?

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>>386354616
>>386354765
Oh it's this faggot again that tried shitting up the last thread because he's triggered the characters can teleport.

You really must be new to FF. You want to see tryhard to be cool look at Vincent Valentine

>>386356568
oh hello XV-kun. Still enjoying your faggy game and trying so hard to be defensive over how garbage your game actually is?

>>386351418
liking FFXV is pleb-tier regardless of your opinions of other FFs

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It's pretty kino

>>386357321
it's cool right XV-kun? To see your character goes swooosh swooooshh teleports swooosh swooosh with their hair moving like a jellyfish?

Of course. Manchild loves their over the top faggots trying hard to look cool like their animes.

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>>386357432
Oh hello XIII-kun still triggered that XV is better than XIII in every way and can't do anything other than spout blanket statement buzzwords while spouting shit like "cringe" "emo" "childish" and getting triggered that characters can use magic to teleport? How fucking new to FF are you?

>>386356365
I wish we could explore that beautiful city in the background with her.. </3

>>386354213
>Tetsuya Nomura designs characters for Square
BREAKING NEWS

>>386357770
I would we could explore more than a city that is basically Venice and that power plant town.

Large, empty open worlds were a mistake

/v/ hates FFXV

but i liked the game too op

dab on them haters

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>>386357609
No it isn't, nice samefag attempt.

>>386357743
>He's literally triggered that characters can teleport and do aerial combat
Does DBZ trigger you this much too? What about DMC? Have you even fucking seen any of the other characters Nomura has created in other FFs?

>>386357751
XV-kun.... I heard it the first time you posted this in this thread. There's no need for samefagging to defend your faggy FFXV because no matter what you say, FFXV is the worst game of all time.

Same goes to all FF in general.

>>386358087
it's only like 3 regular shitposters who show up in any given xv thread that samefag to shitpost in the threads. most people liked it

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>>386358152
>samefag accusing others of samefagging
Look man its OK you're new to FF and are triggered it's one of the best games, you're literally frothing at the mouth.

Here, froth some more.

>>386358304
no XV-kun, most people hate your faggy game.

The only one who like it are manchild autists like you and literal 12 years old who never plays any good game before.

>>386358152
How is it bad?

>>386358462
You already posted that XV-kun. Your character's hair moves like a jellyfish and the gameplay looks like a fucking giant. Which is a perfect representation of what your beloved game actually is like

>>386358475
XV has more GOTY awards than any other FF you idiot. Sakaguchi and Shuhei Yoshida also said it was their GOTY

XV was okay but has a fuckton of issues.

Combat
Story elements happening off screen and you only learn them from radios/newspapers
Anyone that is not the main 4 getting fuck all for development
The game trying to make me care for people who died who had minimal screentime (Jared & Luna)
An empty open world
Can only accept 1 hunt at a time and each hunt can only be done in a specific area

6/10. No idea of the DLC makes it better or not. Or if the Muliplayer (for a game that was intended to be single player) is worth it.

>>386351418
>>386351664

>tfw there was a time it took them 2 years to make completely new Final Fantasy.

>>386358548
see this >>386354765

>>386358475
Do you have proof?

>>386351418
You definitely have bad taste.

>>386352051
It's not that bad. It's an avarage game.

>>386358653
You are literally retarded if you thought their opinions weren't just some marketing stunt. Sakaguchi literally shilled the game on streams.

>>386358612
Hair moves like that in motion, maybe if you weren't underage you'd know that.

>and the gameplay looks like a fucking giant.
Ok...?

>>386358701
You didn't explain how it's bad.

>>386358462
is this actual gameplay or footage from a trailer?

>>386351418
No you just have good taste.

>>386351418

no, what makes you a pleb is being in a lower social class.

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>>386351418
why tho? What exactly do you like about such a shallow and unfinished game like FFXV?

>>386351418
Yes

>>386358825
Sakaguchi shit talked kitase while praising XV and Tabata, Kitase is Tabata's superior so no that wasn't a marketing stunt, he was earnest and you're in fucking denial. Yoshida also gave it his GOTY and it's not even exclusive

>>386358962
It's gameplay footage from the game but the person who recorded it applied motion blur and added the black bars.

https://twitter.com/sunhilegend

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>>386359156
>Yoshida also gave it his GOTY
Another business man that only says what people want to hear, you're so gullible bazztek, FF was always big on PlayStation, he had to shill it too.

>>386359051
If XV is shallow then VII is just air

>>386359156
>Yoshi
>having time to play other games

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>>386358962
of course it's a fucking footage you moron. A badly made one on top of that.

Get a quest - get into loading screen aka the car - wait for 4-6 minutes in car - get out and get on your chocobo to ride it for another 2 minutes - kill piss-easy enemy - pick up item - ride chocobo for 2 minutes back to the loading screen car - ride back to quest giver for 4-6 minutes - turn in quest for 100 gil and 5 xp.

Congrats you sat there staring at the screen for 20+ minutes to get into one fight and finish one of the hundreds of quests.


The banter gets old fast when they start repeating the same 10 or so lines.

The only characters in the entire game that I liked were Gladious and Ignis.

>>386359292
okay, any unaltered footage of the MP.

and does anyone know the price of XV's MP? I might get it if it's cheap and had voice chat

>>386359156
>Seriously believing in the marketing jew's lies
You people would steep to the lowest just to defend your shitty game.
This shitty tribal behaviour is the same shit with console wars, one of the many forms of cancer that's killing /v/.

>>386359347
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

I guess it having more GOTY awards than any other FF is also a marketing stunt even though you can check yourself to see that's true?

>>386359393
He platinumed bloodborne didn't he? Why can't he play XV which he clearly did and posted about?

>>386359514
It's from the game, see >>386359292

And it looks great, you're so triggered it's hilarious.

>>386359686
all I know is he dropped WoW because of his XIV responsibilities, I seriously doubt he had time to play XV right in the middle of Stormblood development

>>386359782
>It's from the game, see >>386359292

I know but unnecessary extra shit was added to it to make it look fancy.

I want, raw, UNALTERED, footage of the MP

>>386359808
He's talking about Sony's Yoshida anon

>>386351664
People forget FFXII started the trend of the games being in development hell with prolonged mismanaged developments that's never worth the wait and always fails to meet the hype, it began development in 2000, it was announced in 2001 and supposed to release in 2003

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>>386359528
I havnt recorded much, just a few clips testing with some AI members.

I think it was $10 if you buy it standalone, it's part of the season pass otherwise

>>386359918
oh

well that's literally just marketing then

>>386359635
it's XV-kun afterall. One of the most autistic FFXV shill on this site.

Which is an achievement because 99% of FFXV fanbase are filled with retards.

>>386359635
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>386359946
whooshh whoooshh whooosshhh bwooop bwooop bwooop slash slash slash

>>386359808
Different Yoshida.

>>386359949
No it isn't, it's not even exclusive.

>>386359946
combat looks on par with the basic maneuvers you can use in XV and the AI looks halfway decent

>>386360141
if they work for a company that would profit from its success, then it's marketing. They're not going to shit-talk their own game.

>>386360141
Next you're gonna tell us that XV on Microsoft's E3 wasn't a stunt and that it was there because Phil Spencer loved what he saw of the game

>>386359968
Why'd you respond to yourself?

>>386360074
And you can't even explain how it's bad, just memepost and buzzwords, sad!

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>>386360180
Katata and shuriken have added moves with new finishers, directionals and aerial finishers, there's new magic and new healing, no more items in battle, warpstrike, cure, magic spells and and barrier deflect cost half your MP at minimum so you have to manage it better, warp points don't recover fully either, they only recover about 5-10 MP.

>>386360229
Then why didn't he give P5 or TLG his goty when those are exclusives from the same year?

>>386360246
No because E3 is literally all marketing. What the fuck does someone saying what their goty is have to do with marketing when they didn't even say those until long after the game was already out?

>inb4 argument about hair again

>>386360820
because P5 and TLG are far more niche than a fucking mainline Final Fantasy

>>386360679
sounds like they this improvements ad actually have to make you think

>Katata and shuriken have added moves with new finishers
never used them. Stuck with the engine blade for the entire gae

I>>386358664
feel like the updates are not really fixing the game, desu. The updates are just making the game an even bigger mess, and the timed event quests are laughably bad in design and shows off how bad the battle system is that they have to bring these enemies full of restrictions and resistances into play to even try to make something of a challenge, but at the cost of gameplay variety and depth. What they have planned? Who knows. At this point Comrades has shown to refine a lot of the poor elements of the core game, so I feel like they should just push Comrades at this point because it actually seems like it could be genuinely good.

I've been gaming for almost 30 years now, and I feel like FFXV is one of the worst made games I've ever seen, because it really doesn't know what it wants to be as a game, or how to make the battle system even remotely coherent and engaging in design. They just keep adding but they haven't even tried to fix complaints that have been around since day 1....even since before the game was even released through the demos. They just keep ignoring everything and adding completely random stuff.

>>386361106
All the more fucking reason to prop them up because they need it then by your logic.

But again they didn't mention those were their GOTY until long AFTER the game was already out

>>386359946
So this is how you always play? I thought everyone played the game wrong and you use every optin ever 2 seconds, but it looks like every other gameplay.

>>386361243
>video games have an expiration date

>>386360940
But the world needs to know it doesn't work like that.

>>386361181
The shuriken basically has two combos, one long range and one shortrange, plus forward attack does like an in place spinny attack, and both Kanata and shuriken have a dive aerial finisher when directly above an enemy. They're basically modified and rebalanced versions of Noctis's combat. You can also airstep with any weapon now as long as you equip the rogue sigil.

>>386361512
The world isn't /v/
Sadly xv-kun will never understand that

>>386361202
The multiplayer objectively does improve the combat, you should look into it

>>386351418
They're the two plebbiest entries in the series so you're fine either way imo.

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I WANT FFVII REMAKE NOW!!!!!

But its "A Final Fantasy for fans and first-timers"

>>386351492
fpbp

>>386361687
>You can also airstep with any weapon now as long as you equip the rogue sigil.

dumb question but what is airstep? I don't think I ever used it in the base game

the only real plebs in the ff fandom are the ones who like ff9

>>386358462
looks like a clusterfuck

>>386361273
Are you blind or can you not see weapon switching between 3 weapons, directional inputs, aerial combos, airsteps, ground combos, manual finishers and warpstrikes being used there?

The only thing I didn't use there was magic because I didn't have the weapons with the spells attached to them yet because you only get that after the 1st quest.

>>386362007
It's the little flip you do if you dodge in midair.

>>386351492
/thread

>>386359946
Looks like a poor man's DMC

>>386361357
>you need to market a game a month after it was released for some reason
Your logic makes zero sense.

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>>386358475
I like the game, but hate xv-kun

>>386351664
>No V or VI
Get out.

>>386362007
>what is airstep?

A pointless mechanic where you flip around in the air constantly just to stay up because this shitty game has no launchers.

>>386362172
>It's the little flip you do if you dodge in midair.

is that a move you have my default or do you have to buy it

>>386362007
Aerial warp between weapons separate from the warp command, attached to the actual regular aerial movement of the weapon

>>386357751
>Oh hello XIII-kun still triggered that XV is better than XIII in every way
Like XIII having buffing/debuffing magic, summons that aren't cutscenes and a far higher, more intelligently implemented damage limit?

>how 'bout a ride-ola on the gondola?

>>386359941
Or just maybe games got more time-consuming to make with more risk involved as everything progressed.

>>386358653
>XV has more GOTY awards than any other FF you idiot.
List the awards every FF game got. If you can't you're pulling shit out of your ass.

>>386362449
Had to buy it with AP.

>>386362318

I think most people feel this way. This autistic retard was doing exactly this not 2 hours ago. He really has major problems in the head.

>>386358653
I've never gotten your GOTY awards argument.

>>386358653
Man Skyrim and TLOU must be the best games ever made

>>386362141
You can stop samefagging.

>>386362431
It's more useful than shit like double jump and the game doesn't need launchers because enemies have vulnerable states on the ground already, airsteps are better suited to getting around the battlefield quicker and against larger enemies.

>>386362449
You unlock it with AP, in the multiplayer you have the rogue sigil already

>>386362572
And not only that, you have to buy it three times for air combat to be viable, otherwise you simply fall back down after 1-3 flips.

>>386362272
It's not trying to be DMC. It's a party based action RPG

>>386362318
Every fan of XV has expressed the same. XV-kun is his own worst enemy when it comes to defending this game. If he just let go and participated normally instead of violently responding to every negative comment, these threads would be fine. I've been in those threads and they were perfectly fine.

I think 15 is flawed but still a good game. But I have to ask the people who whine about the combat, what exactly is it you think you do in the rest of the series? Because I would say you pretty much just mash attack through 90% of fights in every game in the series after the NES and I know most of you fuckers haven't played the NES games.

>>386362572
>Had to buy it with AP.

>>386362708
>You unlock it with AP, in the multiplayer you have the rogue sigil already

then I never got it in the main game

>>386351418
>>386353497

If you want to conceal your identity, maybe do away with the wall of text you always post.

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>>386362807
Fine then, looks like a poor man's Dragons Dogma.

>>386362708
>It's more useful than shit like double jump
Are there really people this retarded?

>the game doesn't need launchers because enemies have vulnerable states on the ground already
That doesn't function anything like an aerial state.

>>386362989

Stop insulting those great games.

>>386362989
it's like dragon's dogma if you had no healing magic and your pawns went back to the rift all the time unless you used a consumable item

>>386362989
Has he ever shat on Dragon's Dogma too? Because this game does look like DDO.

>>386351418
Absolutely.

>>386363154
He will from now on

why the fuck do only greatswords, spears, and swords have link strikes? that's horseshit.

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>>386363154
He shits on everything that's better than XV, so he probably has shat on DDO already

>>386363265
>why the fuck do only greatswords, spears, and swords have link strikes?
Because Tabata is retarded and didn't treat every weapon class as a complete option in and of itself.

>>386362474
Fuck off SBK91. XV has buffs you set st camp and can use items to cast buffs in battle aswell as weapons like sword of the father casting a buff, enchantment buffing too. While you can debuff enemies with Prompto's piercer to debuff their defense, use magic to debuff their elemental resistence, use passive abilities on magic to cast stop or bio on enemies also debuffing them.

>b-but that doesn't count!?

Summons in 13 are trash and do fuck all damage compared to XV, while 9999 being the max damage has literally nothing to do with anything you dense fuck, you can't even manually move in combat in 13, 13 is fucking trash.

>>386362989
That's really a bad thing to say to Dragon's Dogma.
That game at least has good combat.

>>386362569
>needing to be spoonfed
Man you're underage

>>386362690
>>386362620
Why'd you samefag?

>>386362989
No it doesn't.

>>386363570
whats your basis for that.

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>>386363570
Wrong again. You know how many times i've already been accused of being a samefag by you.

Man I miss threads without XV-kun where you can actually discuss the game without him taking all the bait as autistically as possible and shitting everything up.

>>386363807
It's Barry's last pathetic line of defense.
Even if you take a screenshot he'll say you'e shopped it.

>>386351418
No it overall is a better game. But /v/ is full of nostalgia fags so they will defend it

>>386351418
no, 7 is shit

>>386363005
It doesn't fucking matter if it's on the ground or in the air SBK91, vulnerable state is the same thing.

And name one application double jump has in combat over airsteps.

Double jump in a game like KH is just 1 extra jump and that's it.
In XV airsteps give you free movement forward, back, left, right and up which you continually string between attacks.

>>386363356
>XV has buffs you set at camp
Which isn't magic.

>can use items to cast buffs in battle aswell
Which isn't magic and weaker.

>as weapons like sword of the father casting a buff
Which isn't magic and weaker.

>enchantment buffing too
Which isn't magic and weaker.

>While you can debuff enemies with Prompto's piercer to debuff their defense
Which isn't magic and weaker.

>use magic to debuff their elemental resistence
Magic doesn't work like that in XV.

>use passive abilities on magic to cast stop or bio on enemies
That isn't a damage modifier.

>b-but that doesn't count
Given most of that isn't magic and straight inferior to XIII's, it counts, but shows XIII as straight superior.

>Summons in 13 are trash
I'd hate to see what you think of XV's given XIII's actually had movesets.

>do fuck all damage compared to XV
1) Try a level 1 run.
2) How long have summons been solely about damage.

>while 9999 being the max damage has literally nothing to do with anything
>gimping tons of offenses and setups has nothing to do with anything
Go on.

>you can't even manually move in combat in 13
You can't revive yourself after the whole party's already dead either. What a terrible game.

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>>386363653
Yes it does, FFXV is just a Dragon's Dogma without everything that made DD good

>>386363887
Since when? Bazzy here's existed since these threads were a thing.

>>386363297
How is it better?

>>386363483
>I have no proof for the stupid shit I'm saying
So you were lying.

>>386362874
FF had me mashing attack through most encounters, but the boss fights gave me a bit more challenge and I had time to relax and think. Chaos and the bonus dungeons (Dawn of Souls release) actually made me put effort and strategy into them and made me feel tension despite having near infinite time to make my decision. Never really had that with XV.
FFXII at least had the decency to mash attack for me. I only ever had to give commands when shit went south. It was pretty comfy.

The big problem is we're comparing turn based menu combat to real time action combat. The combat is put more into focus (it's why I bought the game in the first place) but doesn't quite meet my expectations. It's acceptable for you to feel like your attacks just change a number with no reaction from the enemy in the turn based games, but I'd like a little more in an ARPG.

Also, fuck whoever decided to make the auto attack button and the sprint button the same thing.

>>386363265
Prompto has linkstrikes on his guns too.

>>386363346
No he isn't and fuck off. Not every weapon needed linkstrikes, there's already plenty.

>>386364012

There have been threads he's missed that go for well into 200+ posts.

>>386363807
That you responded to the same post with the same agenda.

Someone link his twitter. He's dangerously obsessed with this game.

>>386363990
>It doesn't fucking matter if it's on the ground or in the air
Uh, yeah it does. That's the definition of a launch state.

>vulnerable state is the same thing.
>enemy isn't reacting to being hit
>can't move them around in the air
No.

>And name one application double jump has in combat over airsteps.
Moving straight up.

>Double jump in a game like KH is just 1 extra jump and that's it.
What does KH have to do with anything.

>In XV airsteps give you free movement forward, back, left, right and up which you continually string between attacks.
Kind of like double jumps but with less freedom.

>>386363856
Seeing as you are, I'm not sure why you still try to deny it.

>>386363887
I miss XV threads without XIII-kun and SBK91 samefagging and shitting the thread up constantly

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>>386364406
Got you senpai
https://twitter.com/_bazztek

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>>386351664
Golden age is VII-X. Anything beyond is shit tier. I haven't played IX but since it's online I consider it to be a part of something else.

>>386364225
>The big problem is we're comparing turn based menu combat to real time action combat.
Which is why most people compare it to XIII or other games like KH and Dragon's Dogma, and the fact of the matter is that it doesn't stack up when compared to almost every other ARPG in existence.

>>386364335
more than one person can be curious about the same thing? our posts aren't even that similar. The other guys being sarcastic while I'm actually curious. I actually was going to post more than that, and bring up specific points, but I was eating and couldn't do so.

Why didn't you say the other guy who responded to your post about the GOTY awards was a samefag too?

>>386364246
>No he isn't
>told animators to base enemies on real life animals instead of what's good for gameplay
>not retarded

>Not every weapon needed linkstrikes
>it's a 'XV kun confuses what a necessary choice and a smart choice is' episode
Now watch him parrot that phrasing back.

>>386364406
>>386364531
https://twitter.com/search?src=typd&q=_bazztek
Not to mention his replies. He literally does it all day either here or twitter or gamefags

>>386364551
XI*

>>386364457
>I miss XV threads without XIII-kun and SBK91 samefagging and shitting the thread up constantly

I wonder if you even realize that you're the enabler.

>>386364246
>this game doesn't need more content it's fine as barebones as it is
Fuck, you're as retarded as they come.

>>386352108

Just let it die already..

>>386362530
They made FFX in 2 years, FFXII had an issue with the director feeling ill but 6 years vs 2 years is a drastic difference, Square Enix failed to take control of the situation, maybe the loss of Sakaguchi's leadership contributed but FFVII crisis core was announced at e3 2004 and took 4 years for a handheld game and XIII XIV XV are well known for their troubled developments, XII is when Square Enix began to go off the rails

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>>386364664
>>386364531
>>386364406
>inb4 "st-stop defending the game!?" reply

>>386364652
>told animators to base enemies on real life animals instead of what's good for gameplay
But anon, realism is what makes combat good. The more realistic FFXV is, the better. It's why it's the best FF to date, because you're actively attacking instead of clicking through a menu.

>>386364842

Induring the "seek professional help" reply.

KH > XV

>>386364979
OH BOY YOU'VE DONE IT NOW

>>386364979
WHO BITCH THIS IS

>>386364894
>The more realistic FFXV is, the better.
>the more realistic a fantasy murder simulator is, the better
You may be onto something.

>>386364842

>defending an intimate object

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>>386364979
Thread officially killed right here, congrats on using XV-kun's special autism button

>>386365335
Well, he doesn't just defend the game, he even gets angry when you say "bad" things about the characters or shit as if they're his real friends

>>386365432
>as if they're his real friends

Judging by his twitter I don't doubt it.

>>386364002
No it isn't.

>>386363993
Yep this is SBK91 going full fucking autism.

No one said buffs have to be magic, buffs are buffs regardless and you set your primary buffs from camp because you're planning ahead, you have short temporary buffs you can do mid combat through items and some weapons like sword of the father which casts a buff, same as Ignis's enchantment which is a magic buff.

Prompto's piercer debuffs enemies defense a ton.

>Magic doesn't work like that in XV.
Yes it does, you literally inflict fire, thunder or ice elemental damage that debuffs an enemy and weakens their resistence to that element, and the new magic in the multiplayer deals elemental damage which you wouldn't know about since you havnt played that.

Bio lowers enemies defense ontop of poidon so yes it is.

Given all of that is superior to XIII and noone said anything about being magic, and even besides the point everything the party uses be it weapons, items, spells are all powered by the royal magic.

Nothing in 13 is superior and never do you need any buffs or debuffs in 13s main story, just com/rav/med then autobattle and you'll beat the game.

XIIIs summons are trash, having movesets means fucking nothing when they're only QTE commands until the timer runs out. At least in Type0 you physically control the summons, and in XV they are cutscenes like 3-9 which is how people love their summons to be like.

>try this very specific low level run to prove my bullshit point
Why would I do that when I can just do a regular run to prove to you 13s summons are trash?

>SBK91 STILL doesn't know the difference between a system max and a limit

9999 in XV is the same thing as the highest amount of damage possible in 13, it's a fucking 1:1 conversation of damage you dense cunt.

You never need to revive anyone in 13 because it's so fucking trash it auto revives your AI for you with raise on your medic. And party leader = game over was hated universally by everyone who played 13

>>386364225
I expected it to be basic bitch shit because they have final fantasy fans to cater to. I know plenty that play FF and nothing else. If they made the combat too complicated people would whine. I wish they did anyway of course.

>>386364108
>can't even Google something so basic

Awww wittle anon you gonna cwy?

>>386365893
I'd like to see someone beat barthandalus with com/rav/med. The fight has a time limit. So does orphan iirc. Not the guy you're arguing with btw.

FFXV is a pretty fun game on it's own and if you go in having literally zero expectations. Some of its elements are pretty fun and the "trip with your bros" feel was executed really really well.

It's a solid 6.5/10 game, but the reason why everyone shits on it relentlessly is because everyone having huge expectations of it being a numbered Final Fantasy title and having huge hype train going since the Versus days which admittetly looked way way better and interesting even though it was just a concept

>>386365987

>still no source

great

>>386360339
>Mommy I wrote like Trump!

>>386366186
His source is a site that only collects GOTY awards as far back as 2006 and wikipedia

>>386366159
>the reason why everyone shits on it relentlessly is because it's bad

Stop the presses. I stopped taking the game seriously after Stella got shived, and the game turned into a hallway with the only good part being 5 minutes long. Then realizing Tenebrea or however you speltnit wasn't explorable. The more I played it the more I hated it.

>>386365893
>And party leader = game over was hated universally by everyone who played 13
So why'd they bring it back in XV?

>>386366159
Everyone shits on it relentlessly because
1: this is /v/
2: We have a resident autist who refuses to let anything bad be said about the game creating a push/pull dynamic where he doubles down on its perfection and everyone else doubles down on its flaws.
I didn't even have expectations for it other than it being an ARPG and I still felt disappointed.

>>386364449
A launch state is a vulnerable state regardless you dickhead, fuck off SBK91.

Enemies react to being hit because they're in a window of vulnerable state where you can wail on them

>Moving straight up.
For what purpose? Also airsteps can move up with forward L in the direct the enemy is

>What does KH have to do with anything.
It's a game with double jumps and one you constantly defend SBK91.

>Kind of like double jumps but with less freedom.
You mean more freedom.

Moving up+left+right+back+honing in on enemies > extra jump straight up for no reason

>>386366383
>The more I played it the more I hated it.

This so much.

>>386366415
>I didn't even have expectations for it other than it being an ARPG and I still felt disappointed.
Same, I just wanted KH II combat mechanics in a more grounded and realistic setting

I got a game that doesn't know if it wants to be an action or rpg, sucking huge dicks at both

>>386366159

there are some objectively wrong things with it tho, pacing, obvious cuts, game universe breaking elements, the fact that the open world and most of the story are disconnected from each other, etc.

>>386364531
>>386364664
>>386364842
>>386364909
Literally pathetic how obsessed you are with me.

>>386366415
Ironically xv-kun made me more aware of a lot of flaws.

>>386364630
So you know full well because you posted pretending to be different people. Thanks for confirming.

>>386366662
You brought it on yourself
Also, knowing your twitter doesn't make someone obsessed, it's not like you're trying to hide it. By your definition you're obsessed with all the suernames that you always mention in these threads

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>>386366662

We're not obsessed with you like you are with the game. We're fascinating someone so fucked in the head can exist.

So I actually bothered to look up these GOTY awards, and I don't get it.

https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year.html

This site seems to have them all compiled. According to them XV got 9 awards. I checked each one. Three of those are readers choice, so I don't really think we should count them? I guess if you wanted to. One of them isn't counted as readers choice but it is, since its determined by a poll. Amusingly, that's gamefaqs.

I checked the other five; one is a podcast that I really don't feel like listening to. Two of them are non-English, one Italian and one Quebecois.

https://geekbecois.com/final-fantasy-xv-critique/

The Quebecois one is funny since my google translated version of the review says the music is meh and worse than the other games and also that it isn't as good as VII, which I'm pretty sure would be vehemently disagreed with. Feel free to read the 3 english ones.

Regardless of all this, XV didn't make a big dent GOTY wise. You can clearly see Uncharted and Overwatch were the big winners 2016.

But maybe that's not his point. His point is that it got more awards than the other Final Fantasies. Now I'm pretty sure that's the case of GOTY year awards not being a thing back then. Like, for a relevant example to our shared interests, I know FFVII used to get best game ever awards over on gamefaqs, interchanging with Chrono Trigger and Ocarina of Time. Does that count as a GOTY award? But it seems strange to me to judge a certain game in a series by the quantity of GOTY awards it gets.

As an example, Dragon Age Inquisition has far more awards than Dragon Age Origins. Personally, I think Origins is the far better game. I think that is generally agreed upon, at least here on /v/. I can say that if you went to a Dragon Age thread and seriously tried to argue that Inquisition was better because it won more GOTY awards, you'd be laughed at Or in his words, you'd have a samefag after your ass with the same agenda every thread.

>>386366665

The saddest part is he doesn't even realize he's hurting the game more than the shitposters. That's true irony.

>>386364652
Wrong, what he said was to disregard making them feel gamey first and to focus on making their movements realistic like an animal and THEN to create game like movements from that to better ground them. Enemies all have telegraphed attacks you idiot.

>>386365893
>No one said buffs have to be magic
I did dumbfuck >>386362474
Are you admitting XIII does something XV doesn't?

>buffs are buffs regardless
XV's aren't applied in combat (save for crappy item boosts and a poor man's En' spells). XIII's are far more potent and convenient.

>you set your primary buffs from camp
Which is retarded for both having to use a permanently consumed resource that is otherwise worthless in combat, not being applied on the fly and stacking like shit.

>you can do mid combat through items and some weapons like sword of the father
Which are far weaker than XIII's buffs and less convenient.

>same as Ignis's enchantment which is a magic buff
It's an ally tech buff, that isn't magic.

>Prompto's piercer debuffs enemies defense a ton.
Cite the exact number, and that isn't magic.

>Yes it does, you literally inflict fire, thunder or ice elemental damage that debuffs an enemy and weakens their resistence to that element
Prove it. You are the only one to ever make that claim. Cite the formula.

>Bio lowers enemies defense ontop of poidon
Poison is a DoT, not a damage modifier.

>Given all of that is superior to XIII
>less convenient
>less powerful
>'better'
Try again.

>noone said anything about being magic
XIII has buffing/debuffing magic. XV doesn't. XIII does that better than XV.

>even besides the point
You're right, that the game's lore says everything is powered by magic like every fantasy game ever is besides the point.

>Nothing in 13 is superior
How many direct damage nonelemental spells are there in XV again.

>never do you need any buffs or debuffs in 13s main story
Like how you never need anything but items and basic attacks in XV's.

>XIIIs summons are trash
They have more gameplay depth and aren't RNG bullshit like XV's. They're far superior.

>having movesets means fucking nothing when they're only QTE commands until the timer runs out
>XIII's summons are bad because they give you more options and control

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>>386364979
No.

>>386365003
>>386365089
>>386365393
autism.

>>386366765
By the way I'm this guy. Still confused on why you think I'm a samefag
>>386366904

>>386367023
Please don't talk to me.

>>386367023

You even replied to that.

You even fucking replied to that.

Unbelievable.. Un-fucking-believable.

>>386366915
Well they skipped step 2 then, so clearly not only was Tabata incompetent but his entire team was as well.

>>386366904
Also remember there weren't anywhere near as many gaming sites and magazines in the 90's as there are now. It was brought up before that 7 has more GOTY awards but xv-kun threw a fit because some of them were retrospective awards since the sites didn't exist at that point yet

>>386367023
>all that unnecessary bullshit that doesn't even deal damage
Wow so deep
Also, unless you can show me that you can beat LW yourself using that method i won't believe you, you only have to fuck up once a few frames too late and the fight is over. Or better yet, try it against any of the Org members, even on normal.
But you probably can't even get there, so i'm wasting my time.

>>386365893
>in XV they are cutscenes like 3-9 which is how people love their summons to be like.
Prove it.

>try this very specific low level run to prove my bullshit point
Are you claiming summons aren't worthless at Lv 1 in XV?

>Why would I do that when I can just do a regular run to prove to you 13s summons are trash?
>choice, staggers and free heals
>trash
?

>9999 in XV is the same thing as the highest amount of damage possible in 13
Outside being off by two orders of magnitude.

>it's a fucking 1:1 conversation of damage you dense cunt.
You don't regularly reach the damage limit in XIII without a severe amount of optimization. The same is not true of XV.

>You never need to revive anyone in 13 because it's so fucking trash it auto revives your AI for you with raise on your medic.
Which requires a character being alive, unlike in XV.

>>386366159
Versus didn't look better and XV is 8/10 at minimum. It's only versus/kh/ ff13 fucks who havnt played XV that try to shit on it

>>386367228
But its like 9 awards isn't even that impressive, especially if 4 of those are readers choice.

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>>386367023
Someone should make xv-kun play KH2 on critical and everytime he dies he gets punched in the face.

>>386366365
As opposed to your sources?

>he's from Melbourne

Figures. Worst state of worst country. moot was right.

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>>386367023

>>386367429
I want /vint/ back

>>386367313

If you say so, sweetie.

>>386367360
Oh and also the Quebecois one says VII is the better game, so we can discount that as being an indicator of XV being better than VII. So its four awards.

>>386366383
>>386366562
>Stella
>hallway
Sup NeithOF, looks like the gangs all here.

>>386366552
>A launch state is a vulnerable state regardless
Nice argument from assertion.

>Enemies react to being hit
Show any enemy being knocked around in the air during a vulnerable state. Oh wait, you can't.

>For what purpose?
Getting out of the way.

>Also airsteps can move up with forward L in the direct the enemy is
How about straight up with nothing around.

>It's a game with double jumps
And?

>Moving up+left+right+back+honing in on enemies
>being able to move in five directions
>is better than being able to move anywhere within a hemisphere with more distance control

>>386367360
We know, this was also brought up too. But again xv-kun threw a fit
4 of them are readers choice, a few are literal whos, and one of them is professional SE asskissers Dualshockers

>>386367526

You need some real friends.

>>386366415
They didn't, Versus was always gonna be game over if Noctis died which everyone complained about which is why they put in the danger state so you could phoenix down Noctis if need be.

>>386366915
>work to make the game this way
>then rework it into something complete differently
What a shit boss.

>>386366570
It is an Action RPG and better than any KH game.

>>386367707
Versus doesn't exist though??? lol you versusfags are so delusional

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>>386367810

>>386367810

lmao

>>386367023
>No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfR06KrKWDU

He was defending the asses in Comrades. Defending them partially based on being much bigger than Lightning's.

Why

>>386364671

Ditto.

>>386367810
Not with the retarded hyper armor system it has for 80% of its enemies

>>386367905
>getting grappled
You clearly didn't airstep enough.

>>386368014
Lightning has an ass?

>>386368014
Everything in XV is better than anything in any other game out there. That's how it works

>>386366831
The fact that you repost links to it every fucking thread is proof. You posting my twitter has nothing to do with anything I'm saying, me calling out faggots from gamefaqs is me calling out faggots who shitpost against XV on gamefags and here, not even remotely the same thing you stalking hypocritical fuck.

>>386366832
Only one fucked in the head here are you because you can't counter anything I say so you just post screencaps and link to twitter because you never have any arguments or know anything about anything.

>>386368149
>me calling out faggots from gamefaqs is me calling out faggots who shitpost against XV on gamefags and here
Tell us again how XV is better than Zodiac Age.

>>386368149
>you can't counter anything I say

Nobody can because you just cover your ears and yell nuh uh.

>>386351664
was it really only two years between 7 and 8? Jesus what happened.

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>make game with shit combat
>make it multiplayer so now 4 people are playing around with shit combat

Why?

>>386352108
this is the saddest thing I've seen in awhile, and I just saw a video of a mentally ill china man strung up like a doll to keep him from hurting himself.

>>386368435
How can the snake dive if the water is so shallow

>>386366904
>>386367228
>>386367514
>>386367643
>>386367360
Guess you missed the 30 other genre specific GOTY awards it got in addition to the 9 it received which is still more than any other FF.

Which you're in denial about and desperately trying to move the goalposts to other franchises because you've been BTFO.

>desperately trying to discredit the GOTY awards by saying durr doesn't count
My fucking sides

>>386352108


WAKE ME UP

>>386368546
It actually digs and they just happen to be in a small pool there.

>>386368482
4 Katanas or 4 Shuriken are super OP in the MP even against the Iron Giant. Did they not bother to balance it at all.

>>386356436
Reminder that that was the golden age of FF according to many and Square Enix themselves. Nothing has happened in 4 years to make that image any less true.

>>386368595
Which ones?

You kiddies can retype captchas in hyperautism mode defending ffxv, I'm going to replay suikoden 2

>>386368809
good gaem

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>>386368595
>9 GOTY awards out 400 awards given out that year
>30 Genre Specific Awards because it was the only notable game of that particular genre that year
>9 GOTY awards is only like a handful away from other FFs so it's not even that big of a deal


XV got fucking destroyed. Just be glad it didn't realease this year or 2015, where it probably would've gotten nothing.

>>386368595
I mean when you said GOTY I thought it was GOTY, not ARPG of the year.

And this isn't moving the goalposts. I don't think quantity of GOTY awards are a credible way to judge a games worth in a series.

Are you just going to ignore the other parts of my post? The readers choice aspect? The review that says VII is better? GOTY year awards not being a thing back then?

Why do you even ask for good faith, non shitposting arguments if you dismiss them by calling the guy desperate and in denial.

>>386368595
>Guess you missed the 30 other genre specific GOTY awards
That's not the same as vanilla GOTY, why are you switching goalposts. And again, you haven't listed the rewards XV got compared to every other game in the series in order to make that statement.

>>386368595
>genre specific

You fucked up.

>>386368639
>Did they not bother to balance it at all.
As if Tabata even understands the concept.

>>386351418

Yes definitely considering 7 was the last time Square put any sort of effort into a game.

>>386351418
No, XV is better.

>>386369451

>no new IP

hmm

>>386369150

Barry's entire narrative is that XV is better than other FFs. You could make the case for that, sure--I mean you're comparing it 20 year old games, but what one really takes away is how XV falls short compared to other modern games it strives to be like.

So I have no idea where I would find a list of genre specific goty awards. I'm googling best rpg 2016, and I'm not seeing any XV. Blood and Wine, DS3, Trails, Darkest Dungeon, I'm just not seeing XV. Please enlighten me.

I don't feel like going through page after page of google to get a full list.

>>386369507

>his name is this close to Barney


it all makes sense

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>>386358152
>Same goes to all FF in general.

>>386369738
alright i found one from playstation lifestyle

>>386369738
Nigga, there's no point. Barry's just eternally mad because XV hardly made a dent, no even a scratch, in gaming the year it released and was quickly forgotten. H'es also mad that he realized Sakaguchi only praised FFXV as endorsement and that IX is actually his favorite FF.

>I wouldn't say this represents a reconciliation so much as a new era. But I think Square Enix is also afraid that people are going to associate any success of the new Final Fantasy with the my seeming return, as if I have any influence on the game or am involved with the development. So they simply want me to show my face once in awhile as the initial creator of the series.

>So it's more of an endorsement?
>Yes, that's right.

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/final-fantasy-creator-sakaguchi-on-remakes-xv-and-square-w453343

>>386362956
>shitposters always say XV-kun never acknowledges flaws the game has
>Now they say a large post saying they like the game but lists a bunch of flaws is XV-kun
So which is it?

>>386370071
try to address a flaw and find out

>>386370071
the first one. The guy you're replying to is a retard. >>386353497 Is not XV-kun, Barry doesn't claim to not be Barry.

>>386370054
Some of these rpg awards, XV doesn't even seem to be nominated.

>>386370071
As you may have noticed it's just one guy that claims it and he got no replies except for yours- There's always one retard that comes into these threads and thinks everyone is xv-kun

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>>386370484
Because Witcher 3's Fucking DLC and Dark Souls 3 were superior RPGs to XV.

>tfw a DLC gets as many GOTY scores as a game in development for 10 years

XV is the most pathetic game. SE should be ashamed.

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>>386370071

I have no idea what the fuck you just said, but you're wrong. We realize that even he acknowledges that the game is basically shit, but we still haven't figured out why holds it to such high regard despite all the unanimous criticisms. It's almost like it's 10 years worth of denial or something...

>XV threads are about discussing some guy and any threads about the actual thread die fast

wow great game

>>386366997
>Are you admitting XIII does something XV doesn't?
No because that has nothing to do with buffs/debuffs needing to be magic you fucking idiot, they aren't even actual magic in 13 either because debuffs and buffs are only from the sab and sen roles, not from rav which is the magic role

On top of that you saying buffs and defbuffs need to be magic means jack fucking shit when there is no rule stated anywhere that that is how buffs and debuffs work, they aren't magic in Pokemon games so why the fuck do they have to be magic in XV?

>XV's aren't applied in combat
Yes they are, all of them are, that is literally how they work. Did you even fucking play the game? XIIIs are shitty and never needed for a main story playthrough, and by that point you are already fed up with the piece of shit combat in the game that you would never do any of the shitty "challenge" bosses.

>Which is retarded for both having to use a permanently consumed resource that is otherwise worthless in combat
How is a 400+ attack boost worthless in combat? How is a 1000+ HP boost worthless in combat? How is a fire/thunder/ice elemental resistance buff useless in combat? All your buffs stack ontop of your stats and your camp buffs last you the day, then you have additional buffs you can input during battle from the items menu, or through enchantment or through weapons that have buffs that are granted too like on sword of the father, it is better than any piece of shit buff

>It's an ally tech buff, that isn't magic.
It doesn't need to be magic because it's still a fucking buff

>Cite the exact number, and that isn't magic.
It doesn't need to be magic because it's still a fucking buff, how about you cite your fucking numbers first you cunt. Fuck off SBK91 you lying cunting faggot. You have no clue what the fuck you are even talking about.

>Prove it
Literally watch any clip of someone using magic, just fucking look at what magic does.
>OMG CITE THE MATH BECAUSE I'M TOO RETARDED
Nah fuck off

>>386366997
Bio inflicts poison and lowers enemy defense you fuck, stop being in fucking denial

>less convenient
It's more convenient, it's more powerful and is better.

>XIII has buffing/debuffing magic
They aren't even magic in XIII either you fuck, they are saboteur and sentinel roles, not ravager. Only ravager is actual magic. XIII doesn't do anything better than XV.

>that the game's lore says everything is powered by magic like every fantasy game ever is besides the point.
So somehow it's not magic despite the fact that they are all powered by the royal magic in XV.

>How many direct damage nonelemental spells are there in XV again.
How many attack combos are there in 13? How many dodge rolls are there? How many manual jumps are there? How many weapon switching are there? Warpstrike in XV uses MP and is thus considered a nonelemental magic attack, same as Armiger with its own meter too and is royal magic, and theres even new magic added in the multiplayer which has nonelemental spells too

>They have more gameplay depth
There is no depth to them, they are just mindless QTE input window that barely do any damage, XVs are superior because they feel like an event whenever they happen and they do a ton of damage, XVs are far superior. Type-0s summons shit all over XIIIs too because you actually get to physically play as them in that, so eat shit.

And no, having some useless fucking thing on different QTE inputs doesn't make it better especially when those do fuck all damage.

>>386367123
You even got triggered by that

Un fucking believable.

>>386367247
>t-that stuff in unccesary but I can't explain how
You do this every time you get BTFO

And I did show you, it's in that clip right there.

>>386367454
>posts cherrypicked webm that doesn't' even prove any kind of point in his favor

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>>386371568
>>386371659
Do you even see the irony in your posts

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>>386368004
>SBK91 still posting level 1 runs with equalizer pretending that is how a regular run could even work
Meanwhile that Terra run is just a regular run

>>386367905
>SBK91 the KH fag ignoring that shields exist and that you can dodge roll and avoid those entirely
But hey you're a fucking retard that doesn't know anything about the game and needs to desperately shit on XV so you can defend KH.

>>386371776
No. He genuinely does not see the irony in any of his most blatant ironic actions.

So xv-kun bascily just embraces samefagging at this point? Or did he buy a pass

>>386367887
You're right, Versus does't exist because it was scrapped and they reworked it into FFXV in 2012, that doesn't change that it was gonna be game over when Noctis died when the game was still Versus, and Nomura mentioned that again in 2013 in regards to FFXV.

>>386371852
So a KH lvl1 video counts but a FFXV lvl1 video doesn't?
Why does everything count but only when you post it

>>386371852
>shields exist

And so does a 4 weapon slot limit, meaning you don't always have a shield on you. Why would you even neeed a fucking shield when you can auto- dodge EVERY fucking attack by holding Square? Why would I waste a weapon slot on such a trivial equipment.

>gf loves ff
>get her xv as a gift
>shuts herself in our hobby room for almost a week, dropping school and work
>when she comes out, she breaks up with me because she needs to find her "noctis" and moved to Japan in the span of a week
>she won't even reply to my messages asking if she's okay
That's why I despise this game so very much.

>>386367264
>Prove it.
Because summons are cutscenes in 3-9 which is why they are like that in XV because people like that.

>Are you claiming summons aren't worthless at Lv 1 in XV?

>b-but level 1
Every fucking time with this cherrypicked bullshit just so you can pretend you have a valid point, you can't even fucking argue anything earnestly because of how much of a hypocritical thunder cunt you are.

>choice, staggers and free heals
XV summons gives free heals, higher damage and look better and hit more range.

>Outside being off by two orders of magnitude.
Are you still so fucking retarded that you can't understand that 9999 means the same thing as the highest damage output you can do in 13? It doesn't fucking matter what the number says, it only matters what they actually value and all 9999 means is highest damage the same as whatever the highest damage in XIII or any game is, and I meant to say it's not a 1:1 thing.

>Which requires a character being alive, unlike in XV.
If Noctis dies you can't revive, you can only revive when in danger state before he dies, he's alive for only a 7 second window after hitting completely 0HP on both bars after which he's dead and you can't revive him and you get a game over.

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>>386369023
>Just be glad it didn't realease this year or 2015
>same year year with Kurwak 3
>one the biggest videogame companies rekt by bunch of pollacks
I would pay to see this.

>>386351664
>golden age
>exclusively 3d era
uh, sweetie

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>>386372343
I'm pretty sure that was just an excuse, and she's really actually upset with you that you'd actually buy her such a shit game. It was so bad, she literally decided to leave you. I would too.

>>386367581
>Nice argument from assertion.
Prove otherwise. It's the same fucking purpose.

> in the air
Why in the air? Why this specifically? Because you know you are wrong in that you can knock enemies around on the ground?

>Getting out of the way.
Of what?

>How about straight up with nothing around.
For what purpose? You just said it's for getting out of the way implying when near something, so why now when nothing is around?

>And?
You're defending the option for double jumps over using airsteps, therefor you are in defend of a game like KH which offers double jumps

>is better than being able to move anywhere within a hemisphere with more distance control
You can't move left, right, forward or back with a double jump, you can only move up. With airsteps you can move in all directions while being able to control your momentum in the air plus you have manual warps in addition to that.

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>>386367937
Where's your argument?

>>386368118
Except yes it is, at least XV has hyperarmor with clear screenshake to indicate clear hits with hyperarmor, KH3 can't even manage that and shit just passes through an enemy sometimes and is inconsistent with the other hits with hitstun.

>>386368435
>SBK91 aka KH fag reposting this webm of a retard playing like shit again because he still have no fucking valid argument.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/QiMDuMAxZ9W4YP8y6haliA/

>>386368482
Except the multiplayer has great combat and is improved over the main game, nothing in your clip indicates it's bad in anyway.

>>386368639
You don't have 4 of those though at once in the MP. And it clearly is balanced if you had even actually played it.

>>386369398
Fuck off you cunt, you havn't even played it either.

>>386353497
The character development happens in separate fucking dlc episodes fuck that game

>>386368242
I already did so in previous threads.

>>386368267
No, you literally never have a valid counter to anything I say because you just start fucking lying, bullshitting then ignoring any point made against you.

>>386372469
And fucking deservedly so. It's infinitely better than XV, which is fucking strange because SE was basically using Western Games as their template. I'm glad there's still some sense of justice left in the Universe. Glad to know that the overwhelming majority is able to recognize the better game.

Sometimes i think xv-kun played a different FFXV than me.

>>386373031
It really brings power to the words "you've never played it"

>>386372343
Time to opt for surgery and purchase a good durable stent.

>>386372931
Yeah no shit, i meant 4 players with katanas or shuriken like in the webm ffs

>>386369023
>9 GOTY awards out 400 awards given out that year
So more than any other FF?

>30 Genre Specific Awards because it was the only notable game of that particular genre that year
So more than any other FF?

>>9 GOTY awards is only like a handful away from other FFs so it's not even that big of a deal

So still more than any other FF?

Wow you're in denial and got fucking destroyed by your own fucking post, XV has more GOTY awards than any other FF and you're literally in denial about that.

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>>386372617
>other guy didn't bring up KH, so he did it himself
>jumps are only ever straight up, never to the side or in any other direction
>>386372874
>KH3 isn't even out, but I know it's combat is worse than XV's in every way

>>386373031
I wish I did too, that game sounds great.

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>>386372874
>posts a clip literally demonstrating hyper armor

You're such a lying cunt. Post the full clip and you can clearly see hitstuns in effect when hyper armor isn't active. It's consistent, and you're just a shitter.

Have they patched the rest of the game into XV yet? Is it worth playing now?

>3-4 xv-kun posts in one minute
Why is it okay when he does it

>>386369150
I said GOTY and it has more GOTY than any other FF in addittion to more genre specific GOTY than any other FF

>And this isn't moving the goalposts
Yes it is, you're literlaly trying to pretned those don't count just because they gave them to XV. Why are the ones given to older FFs somehow more valid than now?

> The readers choice aspect?
No I'm not going to ignore it, I'm going to call you out for desperately trying to pretend that doesn't count which you literally just fucking did.

>Why do you even ask for good faith
Why do you never respond in good faith, you literally just tried to fucking discredit all the GOTY awards it got, fuck man one of you cunts literally said the one from dualshockers doesn't count just because they like SE games.

>>386369507
Why'd you respond to yourself?

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>>386372874
wtf i hate ffxv now

>>386373148
Seriously where are these 30 genre specific awards?

And people aren't in denial over it getting 9 more, they just don't think that's impressive.

Like people shitpost Overwatch all the time on /v/ and it got the most GOTY awards from critics in 2016. What about Uncharted IV that got the most including readers choice awards?

I haven't even even seen an Uncharted IV thread recently that wasn't inherently bait.

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>>386373148
>NINE out of FUCKING FOUR HUNDRED+

>9/400+

>9 DIVIDED BY 400+

>0.0225


XV is eternally btfo. You will never change these pathetic statistics. I find so much comfort in knowing that XV was so easily swept under the rug and forgotten. Glad to know people still have good taste.

>>386351664
Remove X-2 and add Tactics + VI is a must. IV and V have strong arguments as well. But yeah, absolutely nothing past 12 is worth playing or likely ever will be.

>>386369202
>That's not the same as vanilla GOTY,
So what when vanilla GOTY for XV is still higher than any other FF is? I never switched any goalposts, both GOTY and genre specific awards are higher for XV than any other FF.

>>386369284
Nope. Both for GOTY and Genre specific awards.

Lets just look at the past 10 years of GOTY for FF
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year.html
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year-genre-awards.html
FFXV has 9 GOTY awards and over 30 genre specific GOTY awards

https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year.html
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year-genre-awards.html
FFARR XIV has 0 GOTY awards and 1 genre specific GOTY award

https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2010/10/2010-game-of-year.html
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2010/10/2010-game-of-year-genre-awards.html
FFXIII has 0 GOTY awards and 4 genre specific GOTY awards

https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2008/12/2006-game-of-year.html
FFXII has 2 GOTY awards and 3 genre specific GOTY awards

>>386370054
>and was quickly forgotten.
Why are you posting in an FFXV thread right now then?

>H'es also mad that he realized Sakaguchi only praised FFXV as endorsement
No he didn't because he was praising it alongside shit talking Kitase, and I never said Gooch said XV was his favorite FF, I said he gave XV his GOTY for 2016 which he fucking did, and he also did that almost a month after the game was out so how the fuck is that an "endorsement" when we already knew he was looking forward to the game before he even met Tabata?

>>386370949
>We realize that even he acknowledges that the game is basically shit
Where did I do that? Acknowledging teh game has flaws is not the same thing as saying a game is shit, every FF has flaws and many of them more so than XV. You're the only one that thinks listing flaws means you can't still like a game in spite of them.

>>386371926
Maybe you should learn how 4chan works.

>>386371776
There is no irony.

>>386372105
That run in KH would work at any level, that run in XV wouldn't work at anything other than level 1.

>>386373368
You said I was desperately trying to move the goalposts to other franchises in your first response. I said no, that wasn't moving the goalposts because my belief all along has been GOTY awards aren't a good criteria of judgment. Dragon Age Inquisition is not a better game than Origins just because it has more GOTY awards. Pokemon Go is not better than Sun and Moon because it has more awards. FFXV is not better than every other FF game because it has more.

Now you say I moved the goalposts by saying the FFXV awards don't count. Why did you say I was moving the goalposts by talking about other franchises, and now you're saying I moved the goalposts by pretending XV's awards don't count? Are they both moving the goalposts? This seems to me to be a non-sequitur.

I don't think the ones given to older FFs are more valid. If FFVII had more GOTY awards, I wouldn't necessarily think it was the better game than XV. I'd judge that based on my beliefs from playing both.

And I don't think readers choice awards count because I'm skeptical those can't be gamed. Like you accuse people of samefagging. I think online polls have less legitimacy. If you want to count it fine, but I don't have faith in them. I could make a strawpoll for 2016 GOTY, and if FFXV won, would that count as a GOTY award? To me a GOTY award is an award given by the critical staff of a game criticism website. A readers choice award is a popularity contest, as I see it.

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>>386372116
>And so does a 4 weapon slot limit,
In which you should put a shield in because they are great.

>Why would you even neeed a fucking shield when you can auto- dodge EVERY fucking attack
Wow bro look at 5 seconds in how you can auto dodg- oh wait that doesn't work on every attack because Noctis got hit when phasing meaning you can still get hit when trying to phase so it's not reliable, meanwhile the shield block he did a few seconds later completely blocked Promptos 1hit ko attack which is why you are better off using shields.

>>386374495
>relying on a shield
They were a crutch in Dark Souls and they're your crutch in FFXV. You wouldn't need it if you were actually good.

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>>386372343
>he got cucked by Noctis
kek

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>>386351418
No. You my friend are actually a true patrician. A rarity on this board.