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Portals: speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out!

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Portals: speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out!
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B obviously.
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>>386338159
Either or, portals aren't real. Stop posting this.
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A is fucking stupid. The cube has no momentum. Kill all Afags.
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>>386338226

first post worst post

IT'S OBVIOUSLY A YOU FUCKING RETARDS. TAKE PHYSICS 101

GOD DAMN

PS I'm black
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i hate these threads and this is the first time i've ever opened one. can this be /v/'s version of posting wojak and pepe in /a/ please?
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>>386338294
This is now a funny memes thread
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>>386338159
Why isn't this image banned yet.
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>>386338274
>>386338226

B - the choice for idiots who don't understand relativity.

Tell me, what stops the cube in option B? It comes out FAST from the blue portal, (at the speed of the orange portal), so what makes it suddenly stop? Some invisible wall or force?
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>>386338426
Why should it be? it discusses the video game Portal
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>>386338587
Because I don't like it obviously.
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>>386338159
It's a becuz from the portl perspective the cube is moving xDdd
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>>386338574
>It comes out FAST from the blue portal
No. The only thing moving is the orange portal. The cube has no momentum. Kill yourself, moron.

Here's your dumb portal scenario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN2SKWSOdGM&t=0m37s
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>>386338574
Nothing stops the cube; the cube was never in need of something to stop it. The portal is moving past the cube quickly. That's why the answer is B.
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This thread is retarded, everyone knows you cant put portals on moving platforms.
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>>386338750
>>386338689
but the cube is clearly moving as it comes out
it can't come out of the blue portal without moving
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>>386339260
How did you make it past the captcha?
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>>386339337
i clicked on it
you?
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>>386339260
>but the cube is clearly moving as it comes out
No, you retard. The blue portal is at an angle, so the cube rolls down from the platform it was on. Does your brain even work?
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>speedy thing goes in, speedy thing goes out
>speedy THING
the THING in this case, the cube, is not moving. Therefor, it is not going to be moving when coming out the other portal
fucking CHECK mate
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>>386339432
the process of the cube 'coming out' of the blue portal
implies that the cube moves
if the cube does not move then it cannot change its position
and it changes its position since it gradually comes out of the portal
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A, obviously. The cube isn't moving, but the orange portal forces everything around the cube to move relative to it
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>>386339594
>the process of the cube 'coming out' of the blue portal implies that the cube moves
No, it doesn't. You're an idiot.
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>>386338689
>>386338750

>No. The only thing moving is the orange portal. The cube has no momentum. Kill yourself, moron.

How does it "come out" of the blue portal then? Does it just instantly appear at some point, or does it smoothly come out of the blue portal (at the speed of the orange portal)? And if the latter, what makes it stop? Surely it DOES have momentum when it's coming out of the blue portal. How else does it come out if not by moving?

This is what I mean that you don't understand relativity, and the video that you linked proves it even further. The situation in the video is not comparable, in the video the guy is going through a window, and both ends of the window are moving at the same speed. In the portal picture, only one end of the portal is moving and the other (the one the cube comes out of) is stationary.
See the picture, your video is the situation above, but OP's picture is the situation below.
Do you think that in both scenarios, the same thing happens? Nope.

In the above scenario, the momentum for the cube caused by the orange portal is instantly negated by the blue portal as soon as the cube is coming out. In the below scenario (and OP's pic), this doesn't happen, and there's nothing to stop the cube. So yes, in a sense, it 'gains' momentum while going through the portal in relation to the rest of the world
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>>386339662
lole
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>>386339662
B idiots in a nutshell
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>>386339678
See >>386338689
You're a fucking moron.
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>>386339662
what happens between the moment where the cube is only halfway past the blue portal and the moment when it's out completely?
XDDD
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>>386339678
Rekt
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It's literally one retard making obviously dumb arguments defending A just to troll people. Ignore him and let this shit thread sink.
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>>386339337
>>386339432
>>386339662
Don't bother to argue with this moron, he's probably just baiting
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>>386339858
Looking at the poster count that's actually very likely.
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>>386339749
Yeah, the video is the above scenario in the picture aka just going through a window with equally moving ends. Have some patience and read, would you?
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>>386339678
is this pasta
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>>386340043
It's OC. I've actually converted several B-fags into A.

and as a teenager I was a B-fag myself
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>>386339678
>and both ends of the window are moving at the same speed
lmfao
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>>386338159
B.

If you have a large door frame and you would swing the doorframe down on ground the grass would not be in space for no goddamn good reason.
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>>386340161
see: >>386339678
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If you pick B. You're an idiot with no idea of what relativity is.
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>>386338159
>speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out!
Yes. And the cube's velocity is zero so it's velocity remains zero until gravity makes it slowly plop down.
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>>386338689
Woah... he didn't go flying at a speed equal to the wall before it hit the ground...

It's almost as if the people who think the cube should shoot out are fucking retarded... Woah...
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>>386340302
The cube has no momentum, only Portal.
Just think of it as a doorframe, if you slap a doorframe against wall with a cube the cube misses the doorframe because yeah, that is how holes are. At most the slam against wall may cause the cube to fly into the space, or at all. It might move slightly tops.

Portal movement does not transfer to the cube - portals are like magic doorframes - easiest way to think them like that. If I have a hallway with a moving doorframe the frame's momentum is not fucking transferred to me and make me into Kenyan.

The cube slides to ground because slope and the wall behind yellow portal. Even in the game itself I am sure if someone were to make a mod map where moving pillar can be applied with the portal, movement of that pillar is not equation to your speed.


TL;DR: People cannot think with doorframes, let alone portals.
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>>386338574
The cube isn't moving out of the portal. Parts of it stop existing in one spot and begin to exist somewhere else. Meanwhile gravity is pulling part of it down into it's original position until all of it is through the portal. The cube never moves until gravity on the B side starts to effect it more than on the A side.
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>>386340673
which parts stop existing?
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>>386338574
>What stops it
It wasn't moving in the first place, portals are not movement on the cube any more than doorframes or windows if you decide to jump out of one.
Portals are just magic holes, with properties of a hole.
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>>386340731
I'm not going to dignify that with a response, oh shit I just did
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>>386338159
B is the obvious correct answer.
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>>386340342
>>386340365
>>386340632
>>386340673
>>386340795
>>386340806
yu dun udderstan relatibetty!!1
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>>386339594
>>386339678

The cube doesn't move, the portal moves over the cube, which makes it appear as if the cube is moving into the new space, when really the space is moving onto the cube.

>>386340319
B-fags are the ones who understand relativity. A-fags only understand one static viewpoint and hold fast onto that relative viewpoint in order to grant speed onto the cube it couldn't possibly have.
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>>386338574
>Person saying people don't understand relativity doesn't even understand it himself

kek
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>>386340806
>in an argument
>don't want to argue your own points
you must be 15
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>>386340973
>this post
>by the cunt who said he was a teenager when this portal argument was created
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>>386338159
Disregarding the fact that portals dissipate when the platform is placed on moves, relativity suggests that A is the logical conclusion.
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>there are seriously this many scientifically illiterate people on /v/ who don't understand relativity
This honestly has to be some massive meme like skub right? If you looked through the blue portal you would see the cube rapidly moving towards you; the cube is speedy relative to the portal.
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>>386341064
?
you seem confused

feel free to explain your "logic" any time
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>>386338159
From the perspective of the portal it is staying still and the cube is slamming into it.

I don't see how this is difficult for some people here to wrap their minds around, maybe there really are a distressing amount of legitimate fucking retards.
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>>386338159
The cube would be disintegrated. This is the ACTUAL ANSWER>
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>>386341258
It's /pol/tards. It's always /pol/tards. This cube argument is very much like their completely insane arguments for reptile people, flat earth, how space isn't real etc. etc.
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>>386338159
I'm convinced this image was devised by a clever troll. It's so fucking obviously not B but B attracts contrarians who desperately want that one to be correct because it's disappointing.
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PORTALS CANNOT MOVE ON THE Z AXIS FOR THIS EXACT REASON
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>standing
>someone drops a hula hoop on me from above
>rocket into the air
fuck I hate when this happens
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>People actually arguing retarded shit that doesn't exist since there is no solid proof.

As expected from /v/
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>>386341101
>tfw the arguments have gotten so obfuscatingly stupid there isn't any way to tell whether this is an A or B post
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Well?
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>>386341545
>video game worlds don't exist
>therefore noone should discuss them
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>>386341605
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B.
The object isn't even moving.
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>>386341478
Like this post. No way he actually sees a comparison between a wormhole and a fucking hula hoop

I really have to wonder, is he pretending? Is he really that fucking stupid? Would I look more stupid for trying to explain to him how he's wrong? This is why nothing good comes out of this community, because of retards and people pretending to be retards.
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>>386341845
Why do you assume that
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>>386338159
B.
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dear /v/

>>386338226 thank
>>386338274 you
>>386338867 for
>>386339482 not
>>386339626 (not you)
>>386340342 being
>>386340843 retarded
>>386341478 for
>>386341845 once

People are finally starting to realize that B is the correct answer and it's so nice to see.

The cube has no momentum, so the "speedy thing goes in, speedy thing goes out" argument is irrelevant. If you drop a hula hoop over the box, nothing happens, and it'll plop out on the other side. If the position of the orange portal and the cube switched, the answer would definitely be A. But it isn't like that.

>inb4 "muh hula hoops"
that's how the game mechanic works you queer, you obviously haven't played the game if you're making that "argument"
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>the cube doesn't move, the portal moves over the cube
>A fags don't understand relativity
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>>386342486
Hula hoop = tangible 3D object made of solid, boring, plastic matter in space

Portal = Non-euclidian fucking wormhole

Notice how a common arguments for B involve shit like "the cube isn't moving"

The cube is moving though. It's presumably on a planet which is orbiting a star which is orbiting a galactic center

Oh, but you don't see the cube move because you're on the same plane as the cube? Gee, its almost like
SPEED
IS
RELATIVE
huh?
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>>386338159
B fags are so clearly retarded, why help them?
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>>386342184
Because the particle effects for "speed" are not being drawn like with the moving portal. That means the object has no momentum and simply falls off on the other side no matter how fast the portal was moving.
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>>386342119
explain the difference, moron
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>>386342965
>the object has no momentum

From the perspective of somebody on another planet it does.
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>>386342486
>being this smug about being retarded
ahaha, poetry
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>>386343000
>one literally folds space until 2 distant points are connected by a short distance

>the other is a big plastic ring that sits there and does nothing

Fucking gee, anon, I don't know.
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>>386338159
B fags BTFO
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>>386343027
No, because it simply isn't moving. If it's not moving, it has no momentum.
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>>386343112
wrong, they're the same
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>>386343154
Except from the perspective of somebody off-planet it IS moving.

Do I really have to explain this to you, anon? This is literally embarrassing, I'm feeling for you.
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>>386338159

BLOCK IS NOT MOVING AT ALL

ONLY ANSWER IS B

HAVE YOU NIGGAS EVEN PLAYED THE GAME
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>>386343189
>I was only pretending to be retarded look can't you see how obviously I'm just kidding around lol
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It's A tho

The portal swallowing the cube at 88mph = the cube flying into the portal at 88mph

relativity anons
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The cube has no momentum (other than from the planet's rotation, but everything in the example is affected by that so it's a non-issue) and there is no force acting on it to give it the momentum to shoot out of the portal. Afags are simply trolls trying to shitpost, which is the entire point of this thread.
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>>386343226
This thread isn't vidya.

Portals often look like that in popular culture, mostly thanks to Portal, but nowhere in the OP do I see anything to suggest this is about portal, its a theoretical physics question.

One that the correct answer for is A
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>>386343371
Momentum is relative anon. Everything has momentum all the time.
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>>386343371
>the cube has no momentum

Holy shit these threads are great for immediately separating the retards
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>>386342723
>ignoring the momentum of the platform the orange portal is on
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>>386343147
Better diagram
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>>386338159
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>>386343387
>orange and blue portals
>not portal

If this isn't even based on the vidya, then the correct answer is whatever the fuck you want it to, since portals could theoretically work whichever way since they're not real
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>>386343617
Assuming Portal-portals are real, which this whole discussion is about, A is the objectively correct answer.
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>>386342486
I think I've been misreading this graphic for years. I thought it was supposed to be the platform with the block that was moving.
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>>386343617
Fucking faggot

The topic is on how it WOULD work if they WERE REAL WITHOUT changing any laws of physics beside the ones necessary to make the portals in the first place.

People who would rather make a further idiot of themselves (usually while acting like a smug piece of shit) rather than admit they were wrong should never have been allowed to be born.
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>>386343545
/thread
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>>386343545
With impact wouldn't make the cube fly as far though, it would just sort of hop out from the force.
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>>386343545
They're all A Dumbass

No, you can't all be this stupid, its just a meme to pick A I'm sure.
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>>386343859
Doesn't matter anon. Both cases would make the cube fly out of the exit portal
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>>386343843
>>386343861
woah you guys seem mad. didn't you know portals can't exist on moving surfaces anyway? :^)
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Neither A nor B
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I always thought it was like throwing a hula hoop over someone.
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>>386340875
The cube doesn't move relatively to the blue portal though
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>>386343965
Oh wait I didn't see the little "no impact" text.

What the fuck do you mean, no impact? Does it stop halfway over the cube? Before the cube? Right before it hits the platform? Stupid, poorly explained variable.
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>>386343997
Haha last reply in the chain
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>>386344087
There is only one portal which has two sides.
If the cube moves relative to the orange, which it does, it also moves relative to the blue.
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Obviously B, if the portal goes down, but stops halfway over the cube, then the cube won't separate in half, and no force would have impacted the bottom half of the cube, leaving it till resting on the pedestal
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>>386344408
This kills the Afag
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>>386344408
Correction:
If the portal stops halfway the cube would simply fly out at a lower velocity.

>no force would have impacted the bottom half of the cube
however the upper half of the cube has momentum from coming out of the blue side of the portal. Since the upper half and lower half are connceted, the upper half would drag the rest of the cube with it.

Try visualizing 50% of the cube coming out of the blue portal at 100km/h. Nice thought experiment anon.
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>>386344051
that's nice an all but gravity is usually ignored when it doesn't matter to the problem discussed
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>>386345354

demonstrate how gravity is not a factor
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>>386343489
it bears no meaning since its just a fucking hole and has no substance apart from whatever is moving through it
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>>386345790
everyone knows that gravity will make the object take the path of a parabola
it is not essential to this problem
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>>386338159
couldnt this be explained better with air instead of a cube? Some current must form due to the molecules moving from A to B and crowd up B area and start pushing shit around.
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>>386343532
ahhh i see now
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>>386345790
You're stating the obvious anon. But we're arguing whether the cube would go fast or slow. But you're right.
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>>386338159
B, the only people who pick A are trolling or pseudo intellects
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>>386338159
THIS IS SUCH A FUCKING ANNOYING THREAD EVERY TIME BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO TELL IF PEOPLE ARE REALLY STUPID OR IF THEY'RE JOKINGLY PICKING B

SO NOW
Reply to this post which one is your choice and BE HONEST. NO BULLSHIT/TROLLING, REPLY WITH YOUR PICK NOW
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>>386348339
B.
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>>386341419
but Anon, you literally HAVE to use moving portals to solve a puzzle in Portal 2
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>>386338226
Only correct answer
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>>386348339
B all day, baby

>>386350209
Portal 2 isn't canon
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