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Why can't elves and dwarves just get along in games

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Why can't elves and dwarves just get along in games
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Fuck dwarves
The only thing good about them is that they're the perfect height to be a cock holster for BEC (big elven cock)
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>>386336567
>Why can't elves and dwarves just get along in games

Why can't they invent more interesting fantasy races?

Elves are humans that are
>immortal/live very long
>very pretty
>skilled in craftsmanship and magic
>elitist

Dwarves are humans that are
>short with mandatory beards for some reason
>likes to drink
>likes money/gold and to mine
>skilled in craftsmanship but not magic
>close-minded/bitter

None of this is interesting and stereotyping an entire race is dumb.
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>>386336567
Dwarves dig mountains - > need wood planks for supporting tunnels -> chop trees.
Elves live on/near/for/with trees -> dwarves literally kill their pets for materials -> elves gut butthurt -> dwarves got arrows into their anuses - >got butthurt too -> fight with elves.
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Let them fight, it means the superior race will squash them.
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>>386337464
>Why can't they invent more interesting fantasy races?
Because people gifted with an imagination like Tolkien doesnt come around very often.
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>>386337660
Back off scaly, this is our thread
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>>386336567

I've never understood why people make sweeping generalizations about other races in real life, but I've always found elves fucking irritating in pretty much every game I've ever played. The only time in the last decade that I've given them a chance was as a Dunmer in Morrowind, and that playthrough fizzled out after a few hours. Rerolled as an Orc instead. Spent 20 hours punching the shit out of people as a totally Unarmed character.
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>>386337856
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>>386337730
>>386337464
It's more that every time a new interesting race is created, normalfags completely ignore them and play humans/elves. All the beast races in WoW have the lowest playerbases, Divinity OS2 stats show humans and elves are top while the lizards and dwarves are at the bottom etc.

Fuck elf players, they're all faggots.
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Because in every settings the Elves are always the oh so perfect-in-everythings arrogant and prentious faggots
Fuck'em.
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>>386336567
>Why can't elves and dwarves just get along in games
Now tell me five games in which this is an important story element, so that this isn't just a fantasy shitpostign thread about elves.
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>>386336567
Probably some ethnic war metaphor.
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>>386337892
>Orcs in TES
>Not just shitty knife ears
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>tfw inferior race hating on you
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>>386337926
Pretty much this.

Take Guild Wars for example. Charr and Asura are the most interesting, yet people mainly stick to humans and norn.
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>>386337730
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf
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>>386338091

Shush.
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>>386337892
Dunmer are like that edgy teen in high school who's a dick and hates everything, and then can't understand why no one likes him.
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>>386336567
>That feel when throwing a bunch of elves in a pit of lava in Dwarf Fortress
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>>386336567
They do in Dragon Age.
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>>386338180

> defends slavery as a historical right
> whines about Imperials using colonialism to "enslave" the Dunmer economically
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elves are always pretencious cunts who love to brag about their superiority and always end up being wiped out by humans
good ridance
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>>386338095
It's only da Eldar, send half o da boyz home
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>>386338359
Roche is my bro, but I only joined him because the elven guy wanted me to kill an entire boat full of people to set him free.
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>>386337464
What would you come up with?
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Reminder that argonians and kahjeet are for degenerates
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>>386338336
>call others N'wahs
>move to skyrim in huge numbers
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>>386336567
Best vidya dwarf here, only good thing to come from those games
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>>386338398
>sending boyza home
>instead of sending boyza into another WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! at some metal skellies
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>>386338058
>>386336567
I'm waiting.
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>>386338120
That's because humans are the best. Also most beast races look fucking stupid and are badly designed
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>>386338495
To be fair what the fuck do you want them to do when their homeland is being struck by a fucking meteorite in the local volcano that set it off and drown the land in lava and ashes?
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>>386338502
just wastin' the boyz time wit a boring scrap
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>Why can't elves and dwarves just get along in games

Because the Great Book of Grudges remains full, manling.
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>>386338495
>>call others N'wahs
Which is technically corret.
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>>386338120
Norn are the least popular race
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>>386337187
>big
>elven
pick one you fairy
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>>386338469
>Not playing as a cute argonian girl mage
What are you, gay?
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>>386337187
t.elf
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>>386338609
The great book of Grudges is also full of shit
>Oh noes, the mean human looked at me for 3 seconds and that hurts my feelings, put it in the book!
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>>386338467
>What would you come up with?

A race that has good and bad traits. A race that isn't pigeonholed or stereotyped. Otherwise all you end up doing is making humans the most interesting race since they don't fall into a hole like "good at archery", "greedy", etc.
You can then also have seperate cultures for said race.
The races also don't have to be humanoid.

Just make them more complex.
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>>386338496
To be fair DA:I has some pretty tasty dwarf ladies as well.
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>>386338650
Argonians aren't cute. Khajiit can maybe sometimes barely be cute, but Argonians literally cannot. Beast races in general are stupid
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>>386337856
Any fantasy race vs skeletons
>Skeletons have every death body to their disposal
>Don't have any morale so won't flee
>Skeletons are scary and will lower enemy morale
>Every soldier that gets killed becomes another skeleton
>con: Skeletons don't have muscle so they won't be swole
Literally everything points to skeletons being the superior race why haven't people develop any skeleton strategy games?
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>>386338581

It just makes their hypocritical racism all the more glaring. Imagine all the people in North America and Europe complaining about the influx of refugees, then a decade later a natural disaster renders one of them uninhabitable and a bunch of White guys are suddenly flooding places like China demanding a place to stay.

If anything, that's karma.
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>>386338140
Tolkien didnt invent the elves, but the elves that everyone knows is his elves.
>fair
>magical
>immortal
>dexterous
>good with a bow
ect.
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>>386338638
>complain about N'wahs
>become N'wahs
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>>386338727
>You can then also have seperate cultures for said race.
This is what makes me so annoyed with many fantasy races.
They are just treated as different cultures rather than different species.
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>>386338769
All those traits existed to forms of elfs before Tolkien was a thing you twat
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As human, both can't be trusted.
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>>386338764
>Imagine all the people in North America and Europe complaining about the influx of refugees
Like right now?
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>>386338581
Don't forget the Argonians invading from the south with a scorched earth policy just for revenge
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>>386338769
>>good with a bow
That's just the Sindar, they used all kinds of weapons and the greatest deeds were done with swords.
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>>386338790
What exactly is the original source of this image?
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>>386338762
Fuck off Skeleton in human clothing before I bash your head in with my mace
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>>386338580
Elves always look like waif faggots. You're telling me people think that shit looks good?
Pic related, Destiny allows you to play as cool as fuck sentient robots, and yet people pick the Final Fantasy faggots over them in droves. Pic related, that's not a shot from a JRPG, it's the "not space elves" Awoken.
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>>386338727
>The races also don't have to be humanoid.
This fails almost every time. There are very few people that want to play a character that they can't relate to on some level.
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Fruity elfs need not apply
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>>386338938
>>386338580
Man I really should have re-read my post before submitting.
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>>386338120
i can't speak for everyone but the charr and asura just looked goofy to me, which is why i went norn/human every time

you should still make your fantasy races cool enough that people want to play them
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>>386338712
>The great book of Grudges is also full of shit

That's going in the book
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>>386338938
Please don't post examples from destiny. Try to keep 0/10 garbage games out of this thread.
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>>386337464
>stereotyping an entire race is dumb
Fuck off, you dumb, theiving, jungle bunny.

Stubborn dwarves and poncy elves are the patrician types.

If you don't like it play something else or make your own games.
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>>386338964
Thorgan Axemountain.
Awesome.
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>>386338730
I disagree, this is cute.
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>>386338964
Durnar Beardbattle

Hmm
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>>386338914
Sim City (a old one)
Obviously it was a bit different.
Search "you can't cut our finding you will regret this sim city" in google and you'll find
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>>386338496
>Best vidya dwarf here, only good thing to come from those games

Oghren and Sigrun were far better.
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>>386338727
Sounds like SaGa Frontier.
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>>386338580
>>386338938

You must feel pretty fucking stupid
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>>386337856
why are there no MMOs where skeleton is a race

any class could be improved by being a skeleton

>skeletal warrior
>skeletal cleric
>skeletal engineer
>skeletal sailor
>skeletal thief

the possibilities are limitless
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>>386338938
>You're telling me people think that shit looks good?
Yep.
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>>386339020
Dude, elves in EVERY video game, movie, book are ALWAYS waif faggots.
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>>386338964
>Bolli Bloodhelm
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>>386338964
Durgan Axeshield.

Alright then.
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>>386339080
>posts destiny

Nope I don't think he feels stupid
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>>386338730
>beast races in general are stupid
Anon, you are human. You're literally an ape-person. You are a beastman.
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>tfw making fantasy game that has both generic races AND original/not usually used in fantasy races
feels good
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>>386338892
>(((refugees)))
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>>386338964
Reinhardt Hillsmith
Fuck yes.
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>>386339106
>>skeletal thief
>RATTLE RATTLE RATTLE RATTLE RATTLE RATTLE RATTLE
Great sneaking around there chief
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>>386338120
>Ausra
Look like golem
>Charr
yiff yiff I have a spiked cock
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>>386338964
Wilin Runesmith
I'll take it
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>>386339123
I think you are the faggot here.
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>>386339162
Name me one video game where elves look good.
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>>386338964
Ragnar Underbrew here fellow dawi
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>>386338938
destiny's robots look like crap
enjoy your Michael Bay transformer filth
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>>386338938
Races do not matter at all in Destiny, so who fucking cares.
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>>386338712
F O U L U M G I
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>>386339106
>skeletal thief
>bones making noises

>skeletal sailor
>sails down the bottom of the ocean only

>skeletal engineer
>bone drops in some cog machine

>skeletal cleric
>smites himself, also turn undead
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Heard you were talking shit like about my skellies I wouldn't find out.
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>>386339224
Looks like all our milk has been stolen again, fucking skeletons.
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>>386339230
>Asura*
Gollum* FUCK
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>>386339240
Oh, look another pretty face piece of shit. I bet you like it up the ass too.
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>>386339245
The Witcher 3
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>>386338964
Raggar Hillsmith
Meh.
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>>386336567
>>386338058
>>386338554
I'M STILL WAITING
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>>386338964
Hanin BeardSmith.
Guess I'm a barber, destined by name.
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>>386339265
How the fuck did "like" move ahead three words?
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>>386338964
Reinli Hammerhelm.
Guess I can headbutt the living shit out of some faggot elf.
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>>386339256
Still look better than this garbage
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>>386337464
Because if the audience isn't already familiar with the fantasy elements you're bringing in you'll have to weigh your story down in exposition. Most writers don't want to do this, out of those who do fewer can do it without it feeling superfluous and none at all will be able to convince the audience to give a shit about their OC race instead of just focussing on the humans.
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>>386338964
Wilnar Doomshield
Sweet
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>>386338964
Hagnar Beardbeard
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>>386339245
Morrowind
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>>386338964
>Hankarl Axehand

Now I know what to do if I lose a hand in glorious battle
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>>386339183
You do know there is a difference between animal and beast?
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>>386338964
Bolgar Bloodstone. Fucking hell, I sound like I should be starving to death in eight peaks.
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>>386339257
Exactly, races don't matter, so why are people picking the Awoken when they factually look like utter fucking garbage?
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>>386339285
>he looks better than me
>this means he's a fag!
I can feel the insecurity oozing out of my monitor.
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>>386339360
Lost hard.
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At least TES doesn't go for the pretty boy/tranny elf look. (Without mods).

They have a slight animalistic look to them plus weird heads/receding hairlines.
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>>386339058
>The look of disgust on that woman's face

Perfect
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>>386339425
He looks better to men who are into sodomy. I play superior races.
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>>386338964
>Reinkarl Goodsmith.
Epic
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>>386339264
>human thief
>audibly shits himself during a mission

>human sailor
>dies when submerged into water for too long (wtf)

>human engineer
>fleshy fingers get into cogs, goes into shock and dies

>human cleric
>dies of old age before being able to memorize the sacred scriptures

humans are shit desu
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>>386339265
*smites your skeletons*
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>>386338964
Urgar Underfoundersson

Damn, that second name is lame.
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>>386339240
a DMCA has been sent, elf scum
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>>386338727
>A race that has good and bad traits. A race that isn't pigeonholed or stereotyped.
If your race doesn't have defining features to separate it from the humans then you'd going to be hard pressed to justify why it wasn't just another group of humans.
>The races also don't have to be humanoid.
Now you're setting yourself up for hours of trying to figure out how non-humanoid architecture and tools would look.
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>>386338964
>Reinin Hillson
Sound more like some shitty mockup scandinavian name
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>>386339479
>le ebin skelton puns xD
Yeah great job, very many video games for you and your meme race to enjoy. I bet you also think Necromancers can be good.
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>>386339224
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>>386338964
>Raggan Goldbattle

Meh
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Skeletons will be playable in a game I'm making. Should they have a homeland or any sort of territory, or should they just roam about the world?
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>>386339548
I read that in Kitten's voice
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>>386339585
>le epic faggy elf archer xD
I bet you think rapiers are a cool weapon and always go sarcastic rogue/thief too, you fucking faggot.
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>>386339538
There are a lot of skeletons here though.
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>>386338730
>Beast races in general are stupid
You take that back.
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>>386338964
Urin Underfoundersson
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>>386339404
I'm Thorkarl Axehand, are we brothers now?
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>>386338964
>Durist Hillmountain
I'm getting a MOONMOON feel boys
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>>386339817
Dude, what's your surname? I got the same Dwarf surname as you.
>>386339540
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>>386339650
First you must ask yourself what is skeleton culture? But to answer that you must ask what is it to be a skeleton?
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>>386339684
>>le epic faggy elf archer xD
Oh yeah, because I posted so many elf archers, right? Now, give me five games where you can play a skeleton out of a selection of typical fantasy races, no mods, and prove that your meme race has any basis as an argument.
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>>386339824
-> >>386339360
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>>386339684
>elf
>rapier

Elves are consistently use long swords, sabres and swords inspired by Eastern civilisation in fiction

Only a human would dare use a rapier
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>>386338964
Reinli Hillstone
Neat
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>>386339859
Kelley
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>>386339935
In DnD-systems the rapier is often also a weapon they start proficient with. Recently played Neverwinter nights in which this is the case.
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>>386339567
>If your race doesn't have defining features to separate it from the humans then you'd going to be hard pressed to justify why it wasn't just another group of humans.

That isn't what I said though. My point is that just making a races immortal and better at humans at X things is fucking boring. My point is that I want seperate races to feel like a seperate race and not just a slight variation on a human.
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>>386339892
Homm 1,2,3,4 and 5.
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>>386339650
If they are intelligent, or at least led by necromancer, it seems only fitting that they are based out in a massive graveyard, or maybe a small town that got wiped out by a plague. Personally, I really enjoy seeing undeads improving/defiling human structures in a patchwork-looking way where the two architectural styles clash really obviously.
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>>386338964

>Durist Beardbeard
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>>386339318
I'm pretty sure I explained this in an earlier post

>Grudges
>Book
>Full

When the treacherous Phoenix King lies broken before Everpeak, when the sacred trees of Athel Loren burn in the forges of the Karaz Ankor, when every last grudge has been paid for in elven blood. THEN there will be peace.
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>>386339892
Divinity Original Sin 2
Medievil
Grim Fandango
Heroes of Might and Magic series
Age of Wonders
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>>386338964
>Ragist Firemountain
Pretty metal
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>>386339823
Well since you're axing, I'll have to take a look at your axehand to be sure, Axehand.
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Does anyone actually like Gnomes?
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>>386338964
Urist Goldholme
cool
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>>386340090
Like that anon said, then you only have more humans that look different.
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Human is pretty boring to play, unless I play as the unwashed humans who just wanna tear down the civilized humans.
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>>386340189
>Divinity Original Sin 2
That's the only rpg in which you can create your own skeleton hero. Good job everyone.
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>>386338964
Gimkarl Bloodson. Fooken A
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>>386340418
That just means it's the only modern RPG where the developers have any taste. I'll be sure to put down any disgusting elves I see.
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>>386339897
>>386339445
stop. It's not funny.
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>>386338964
Ragin Runebattle
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>>386340503
-> >>386340120
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>>386339650
Ok, I got it. Skeletons who live in an Aztec based culture where they sacrifice worthy slaves to join them in skeleton hood. They venerate piranhas and are superstitious about bearded vultures sightings as an omen of death to skeleton kind.
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>>386338964
>Wilin Ironson
Now that's what I call badass
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>>386340494
That just means that developers haven't jumped on the meme train
>oh spoopy xD
Please stop being such an edgefag.
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>>386339224


>look around

>just see some bones on the ground, some dude who died years ago

>RATTLE RATTLE RATTLE

>look around

>all our milk is gone
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>>386340672
>being this triggered by skeletons
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>>386338964
BOLIN IRONBATTLE
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>>386340672
Funny, because elves are predominantly played by edge lords who always roll rogue classes in anything but TES games.
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>>386340854

Ignore that fleshpound shitlord.
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>>386337464
That is interesting, it has just been used so many times. Anything you could come up with can be overused to the point where your argument applies, that doesn't mean it's bad. As far as moving from the stereotype/Not all dwarves, that had been done several times as well
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>>386338964
>Bolgar Firebeard
nice
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>>386340854
>being this triggered by elves
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>>386338398
>>386338398
Best version of Orcs right here, 40k Orks are fantastic. Second place are Zelda's version, pig orcs are underutalized.
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>>386340927
>who always roll rogue classes in anything but TES games.
Everyone runs rogue in TES games. Rogue is the class of stealth archery.
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>>386338496
He's the WORST Dwarf in Dragon Age. All the other dwarves in those game are superior.
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>>386338609
Grudges are cool and everything but do the dwarves really need to be so autistic about it? The White Scars in 40k have a book of grudges too but they at least don't put retarded shit in it all the time.
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>>386339887
They can be anywhere from serious and vengeful to nonchalant and carefree. The ones that have been dead for a while have usually stopped caring about whatever mortal goals/pursuits that they once had. The greatest skeleton philosophers and thinkers have come to believe that magic does not exist, despite many of them using magic/being reanimated with magic, which has become a very common trend among skeletonkind.
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>>386340927
Like kender rogues are somewhat better. Rogues are likely to be picked by egdefags and then elves next because of their DEX bonus.
I always played series operator elf rangers
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>>386337464
Shadowrun was pretty good at races if you ask me
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>huge buff human pretty boy with long hair

perfection
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>>386341449
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>>386338964
Urin Hillbrew
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>>386339815
You proved his point
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>>386338964
URNAR BLOODAXE
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>>386338964
Gimist Axebattle

I'm 75% sure I had a DF mayor with this exact name
rest in peacejk
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>>386341125
There are no classes in Skyrim and mage classes are immersurably strongest in previous TES games
Have you even played TES
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>>386337926
you realize that vanilla wow 60% of horde was undead kiddos for the free win of the forsaken racial, right?
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In what game can I play the member of a wise and elder race responsible for the wonders of the world slowly dying out as their interests turn inwards and are becoming less and less fecund, being outbred by lesser races?

How do I make a high elf not look like shit in skyrim?
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>>386338727
>A race that isn't pigeonholed or stereotyped
oh boy
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The Elder Scrolls lore and races > other fantasy world's lore and races
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>>386342301
isn't it related to fallout
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>>386342301
Too bad none of it matters because nobody gives a shit about lore in TES.
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>>386342301
lore ye

races get real bland when you realise that it's actually like 4 actual unique races and 3 of them all look the same
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>>386342380
Yeah even devs don't give a fuck
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>>386342380
They used to, but Skyrim happened and all the casuals flooded in.
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You'd think elves would get along with the dwarves provided they could find a good trade route, since the elves have all these fancy magical crafting techniques but fuckall for rare deep earth ores and dwarves have shitloads of rare deep earth ores and the means to forge them into easy to use bars but none of the magic craftsmanship bullshit.
They could make ten billion times folded mythrill katanas that can cut through space time but instead they fight each other because dorfs have small man syndrome and elves are too proud to just ignore the manlets.
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>>386342301
Things like this make me want to replay Skyrim and fucking pay attention. Or is it all in the other games?
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>>386339960
wtf are you me
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>>386342604
There are youtube videos about it that tell you a lot of stuff, but you might have to go ingame for other things to dig deeper.
Look for Shodycast's playlist on TES lore. It's really long, but informative. Explains it quick and simple.
Other youtubers go deeper and explain more, but it becomes boring if you don't have the patience.
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>>386342020
Skyrim doesn't have class titles but when you do everything a rogue does, you're roleplaying a rogue. Magic was only king in Morrowind and back. Stealth Archery was number one in Skyrim and stealth followed by archery from atop a rock was number one in Oblivion. Magic in those 2 games got fucked by level scaling.
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>>386338964
>first name Haggar
HELL YEAH
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>>386340189
>you can play as a skeleton in Divinity 2
no?
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>>386338964
BALGAN GOODSHIELD

GET BEHIND MY SHIELD-WALL, DAWI
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>>386340057
Except it's longswords they start proficient with in NWN
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>>386336567
Why can't those fucking treehugger faggots just die? All fucking woodniggers must fucking hang.
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>>386344275
You could just have checked.
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>>386344468
everyone else tried to hang you rock humpers ages ago, but we couldn't find your necks
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>>386338964
Wilgar Hammerfounderson reporting for work.
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>>386339548
Let's use a boring legislative solution. Just like the TAU would.
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>>386340109
>>386339650
Obviously the NECROPOLIS ya fuggin bellends.
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>>386338964
A nice addition to my collection
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>>386338964
>Hagfan Beardbattle
can't think of a worse name
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>>386339224
>get caught stealing
>be hanged
>walk away with a noose around your neck
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>>386342301
Wahammer fantasy>>>>>>any fantasy
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>>386345809
>you will never escape your prison of flesh
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>>386338964
DURIN UNDERBATTLE
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>anything other than human
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>>386336567
>Knife ears
>ever
I'd sooner cut my beard off and sell my axe
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>>386338728
>pretty tasty dwarf ladies as well.
I need those pictures of tasty dwarf ladies and I need them NOW
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>>386338581
Me and my body rolf are going into the sea of ghost to sink greyniggers boats, who wants to join?
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>>386338964
>Thorhardt Underhelm
Cooler than my real name, that's for sure
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>>386338964
Am I a real dwarf, papa?
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>>386346248
>unchivarlous human
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>>386346807
>he is a peasant
>he has no chivalry
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>>386338964
Raghardt Hillson

Raghardt is nice but I'm not so sure about Hillson.
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If I made a rpg I would probably make it a sci fi world that is post humanity.
Races would include:

>Mutants
Human decendants that often live in tribes. Lots of variation in how they appear, depending on the severity of their genetic pollution.

>Robots
Ai based upon human minds that consider themselves the true inheritors of the mantle of "human".

>Aliens
Visitors from another world stranded in a strange land
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>>386336567
knife eared cunts are backstabbers, that's why
>>386337187
found the tree fucker
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>>386338964
Reingan Spikeshield
Sounds cool i guess
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So what's everyone up to right now?

Me?
>playing dwarven fighter in Baulder's Gate Dark Alliance
>currently purging dark elves from our dwarven mines
>gained two levels from elf blood alone
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>>386338712
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>>386338964
Urkarl Beardbattle

Sounds cheesy but okay.
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>>386338964
Bolnar Underholme
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>>386347205
Elf Ranger/Rogue in Neverwinter Nights, pretty good so far. Keen senses are too convenient.
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>>386338964
Bolli Doomfoundersson
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>>386347220
kek
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>Every game has humans elves and dwarves
>Even when people try to step out of the box, its just vampires, a beast race, a robot etc.
>They all still stick to the same old stereotypes (Vampires aloof, aristocratic and snobbish with gothic themes, beast races are primal and in tune with nature, robots follow the singularity hivemind AI etc.)


What if we create our own unique race concepts?

My attempt off the top of my head

>Rock people
>Literal living rock, boulders held together through some divine magnetic force
>Over time as their culture developed they started carving themselves into decorative shapes and faces so large variation depending on personality
>Intelligent, creative Rockmen can look as complex as greek statues
>Dumbass rockmen are boulders with arms and smiley faces chiseled in

>every rockman feels a connection to the great mountain, a mountain t they all hail from and feel most at home in (The source of the magnetic energy)

>Civil war in rockman society, with some believing the rock's place is to return to the earth and melt into the magma/lava and rejoin the earth

>Some rockmen wish to continue roaming the earth and strike out on their own,learning more about the softer fleshy races, with their lava brethren hating them for it and disowning

I'd play as based boulder bro
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>>386337856
>friends try to get me into dungeons and dragons
"naw I think that's a little to nerdy for me, sorry"
>"anon come on you can do ANYTHING and be ANYONE!"
"Really?"
>"yeah dude!"
"So I can be a SKELETON WARRIOR?!"
>"oh... No you can't do that. Skeletons are inherently evil."

I just wanted to rattle my bones, do sick combos, and play this while I played: https://youtu.be/a3ZlpTp_dJA

>mfw my friends won't let me be who I truly am on the inside.
>mfw games won't let me be who I truly am on the inside.
>whenever in public no one will take me seriously when I say I am truly Skelekin.
>I can never TRULY be ME.
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>>386336567
ALRIGHT, LISTEN TO ME YOU KNIFE EARED PIECE OF SHIT!
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>wanting to mingle with filthy knife-ears
The only good elf is a dead elf
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>>386338650
>Argonian
Plebest of plebs detected.
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>>386338964
>Hagin hillsmith
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>>386340145

Sounds like a lot of fuss over nothing
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>>386338964
>Hankarl Goodholme
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>>386338964

GIMFAN AXEBATTLE

REPORTING FOR DUTY
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>play skyrim
>pick high elf
>play as a "thalmor"
>check every nords pockets & homes for evidence of Talos worship
>possession of an Amulet of Talos is an instant beheading for worshiping a false god

Feels good senpai
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>>386347040

Add blob creatures formed from the nuclear waste and fallout and we got a deal

We need more trippy races rather than everything being

>Humanoid with disease
>Humanoid with animal parts
>Humanoid that is robot
>Humanoid from far away

Like wisp from dota
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>>386347856
THOSE FUCKING HIPS
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>>386338964
Let's go
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>>386338964
>Reinhardt Beardhelm
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>>386338964
>Ragin Hillbattle
ebin
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>>386347772
>the humans don't transform into sickass skeletons
Wasted opportunity desu
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>>386338964
>Heinin Undersmith
well...
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>>386347772
>Skeletons are inherently evil."
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>>386346462
Harding is a qt
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>>386336567
it is like american and europeans, americans are midgets while europeans are tall
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>>386349009
IIRC that's from a splatbook (or whatever the "expansion packs" for DnD are called) and not in the "vanilla" game.
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>>386342145
Literally just dead humans my man.
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>>386349495
>Update
As long as it's first party most GMs will run it.
That is 21st fucking level though so unless you are doing an epic campaign you are shit out of luck.
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>>386347856
what game is this?
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>>386338964
I love how you guys think people care what your dwarf name is.
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>>386350249
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>>386350351
I care
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>>386337926
>play human
>can multiclass, no race specific stat debuffs
>can master more skills
Or
>play dwarf
>Have to be a retard blacksmith warrior or druid horse fucker
>play elf
>have to be le ranger or magician
>play panda
>farm rice

Hope this helps.
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>>386337926
GW2 is actually an inversion. Charr fags are above salads and Norn.
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>>386338964
>Raggan Spikebattle

great, thanks.
>>
Speaking of fantasy beast races, where my pig bros at? Best beast race in all fantasy settings amirite?

... Anyone?
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>>386338964
Urist Goodforge

I would have preferred almost any other prefix for my last name, but oh well, I like it.
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>>386338964

>Durkon Axebattle


metal
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>>386350909
To be fair, a lot of people hate the Salads for being one of the most infuriatingly poorly written race in ages.
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>>386351595
And so they pulled the lever
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>>386352049
... and most of the GW audience are flaming furries.
>>
Because why would you want to play anything other than best race?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU4kjjkiZk8
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>>386338964

Hagin Hammerstone

this is acceptable
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>>386338964
>Thorgar Runebeard
Gather 'round, fellow Dawi, that I may scribe Runes of Power on your equipment, and we shall settle some grudges.
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>>386337464
>stereotyping an entire race is dumb
You literally just did that
>>
>not playing eldritch races
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>>386352931
>ELDRITCH RACES
>posts robots

You could have posted the cravers but you didn't.
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>>386338964
Ragin Axefoundersson

What a shitty name. Just like Dwarves themselves.
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>>386338964
Reinli Beardbeard
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>>386352907
It's still okay to hate niggers though, right?
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>>386353205
>posting le zerg #295158
>not posting Classy Lords
>>
>human players
Usually dreadfully boring people, unless they're a wizard. Human wizards are usually cool.
>elf players
Often they're just human players that want to stand out a little. They're boring too. They also tend to be pretentious.
>dwarf players
They can get pissed the fuck off by things pretty easily, but when they're not mad, they're usually really cool guys. Usually they're having a good time when they're not complaining about balance or a roll or something.
>orc players
Very direct people - they want to play the game and usually don't care much for advanced mechanics or details much. Usually fun to play with, but complicated things are a pain to do with them.
>beast race players
Huge furries. They're excellent at getting immersed, but that's rarely a good thing for them.
>vampire players
Usually either cool or a dick. I haven't seen much in between.
>halfling players
AVOID AT ALL COSTS
>skeleton players
Really fun to play with, but they rarely take things as seriously as other people, which is pretty frustrating sometimes.

Who am I missing?
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>>386353205
>cravers
Who?
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>>386337464
Because normies, even some /v/ dwellers, hate any race that isn't a different colored human. All beast races are furries and all "Xeno" races are "immersion breaking" or some shit because you can't self insert to them.

You ever seen that one screencap about some guy on Bioware forums damning the concept of any fake race that actually has some creativity behind it? That's basically it. You think all that WH4K posting is being ironic?
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>>386336567
weren't gimli and legalos such bros that even in the afterlife they refused to be apart and gimli went west with the elves?
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>>386353315
Is that a civ mod? why even bother?
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>>386338964
>Bolgar Doomsmith
That's a pretty cool name
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>>386353454
>Because normies, even some /v/ dwellers, hate any race that isn't a different colored human.
That's the horrible truth right there.
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>>386353401
Tiefling, aasimar, gnome.
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>>386338964
Gimhardt Beardhelm

Not bad
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>>386353537
How is that "horrible"? Why would you want to look at ugly garbage? Mostly human is the best character design for fictional races.
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>>386353440
Endless space faction created by the virtual endless.

The concrete endless created the necrophages as a counter to the cravers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4rgswnjpZg
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>>386353756
Oh cool I've only played EL.
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>>386338964
>Reinnar Hillstone
Cool, sounds like an action figure name
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>>386338964
Gimkarl Underholme

Could be worse I guess.
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>>386353686
And you are exactly the kind of person I'm talking about
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>>386338964
>Ragfan Runebattle
Damn this sucks
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>>386353919
ES2 is still not finished but it has some god tier races.
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>>386353969
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>>386353969
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>>386353686
You should probably stop interacting with fantasy altogether. Sci-fi too. Alternatively, go suckle Bioware's teat, they are the best at making all of their races generic humans with generic human personalities and problems.
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>>386353686
t. normie
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>>386353969
huge fag reporting in
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>>386352907
tolkein did that rarely did anyone in his stories act outside of their stereotype
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>>386337926
>Wanting to play furries
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Why don't more games have Horatio in them?
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>>386353539
I don't see tiefling or aasimar players often, so I couldn't really give much of an opinion on them. The one tiefling guy I know was pretty strange, he'd really forcefully kick people in the shins for fun a lot. I can do gnomes though.
>gnome players
They're usually playing gnome as a joke. However, I have seen many serious gnome players, and they're usually kind of awkward. Regardless of playing them as a joke or seriously, they act kind of gay.
>>
>>386348107
>No option to join the Thalmor
>The Thalmor are so unambiguously evil there's no attempt made by the writers to present a grey area
Probably my least favorite part about Skyrim.
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>>386354305
Lemme fix it
>Tiefling
Minmaxers
>Aasimar
Goody goody minmaxers
>gnome
Get the fuck out of my campaign
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>>386354278
>being this threatened by something different
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>>386347658
FTL?
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>>386354294
EVE Online has Sansha. That's Horatio by another name.
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>>386354360
Considering they literally want to end reality just so they can return to a previous state of existance, yeah they're kinda up-their-own-arse evil
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>>386354294
This guy is the closest thing to horatio i could think of.

He treats his clones like i-phones.
>>
>>386353969
This slight will not go unheeded, Dwarf. Remember that when you need more wood for you axes, picks, and hammers, you cur.

t. Dr. Huge Fag III esq.
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>>386338964
Durfan Goldhelm

Nice
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>>386354797
[Cuts down more trees]
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>>386349963

The point he is trying to make is that they didn't choose it because it was their actual preference. They chose it because numbers.

Personally i've only played Tauren on Horde [Minus one sassy Gobgirl Mage] and Worgen on Alliance.
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>>386337464
orcs and goblins are humans that you have removed the elf from
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>>386354757
>>386354294
WOOPS FORGOT IMAGE.
This guy is the closest thing to horatio i could think of.

He treats his clones like i-phones.
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>>386354123
>>386354143
SJWs spotted

Sorry you can't appreciate exotic alien waifus and would rather look at some fucking gay spaghetti monster bullshit. Faggots.
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>>386354969
Orcs and goblins are elves who argue their superiority slightly less eloquently before being genocided by people that matter.
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>>386347856
>You will never be a lizardgirl's servant.
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>>386338964
Bolin Axebeard
aka generic sidekick
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>>386355035
>being this tasteless
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>>386354123
>>386354143
>>386354043
Where have I seen this argument before...

Who let the tumblr subhumans in?
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>>386355056
>a cute elf girl will never eat your still beating heart in front of you
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>>386341487
You might like the Knight in Dragon's crown.
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>>386354305
I've run into them more than I've ever wanted to in my life when I was DMing for official league play.
>Teiflings
Even split between really autistic Pokémon sexualizers, and those teenaged girls with the special snowflake OCs that are absolute Mary Sues.
>Aasimar
The same teenaged special snowflake OC except instead of being "reviled" on the outskirts of humanity wearing goth paint, they're perfect heavenly beings that everyone loves for no reason forever.

Nailed it with the Gnome though. The only decent serious Gnome I've ever seen was this one guy who made a self-hating Gnome that hated the antics of his Gnome brethren and worked tirelessly to either shun them out of civilized societies or to murder them.
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>>386355154
>Tumblr
>ever badmouthing Bioware except when Bioware occasionally fails to hold the perfectly progressive line
You should probably remove yourself.
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>>386355154
Normies out! /v/ is a board of hardcore gamers!
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>>386342301
Check out the Endless series of games, shit has deep lore as fuck.
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>>386355035
Just go back to your fucking Monstergirls you no fun allowed weeb
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>>386341487
Sigvald from Total Warhammer
>>386355217
Or this.
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>>386338964
>Reinli Beardbeard
I AM THE BEARDLIEST
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>>386355035
This unironically
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvJsG4F2Img

Some say the Elves have still not recovered from this mastercrafted Dwarven insult.
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>>386355127
Real talk, your taste is so bad that you should be fucking killed in real life. Point me to literally any vidya race that is utterly non-human where this is compelling enough to make up for the loss of a potential sexy alien waifu. This shit isn't high-concept hard sci-fi, we are talking about video games. They are there to be entertaining. A video game writer is not going to write a sci-fi masterpiece where a non-human society is fully-realized as a concept like Dragon's Egg or some shit, they are going to write a standard adventure story about a band of misfits. In this scenario, a bunch of cute and or sexy alien babes is vastly superior to some half-assed retard attempting to make a "cool" "realistic" alien. Go back to tumblr.
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>>386338964
Wilnar Firemountain

I like it! It's pretty metal!
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>>386355387
>supporting a popular opinion as if it's risque
Who let the special snowflakes in?
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>>386355452
You spend more time on this bait then I do replying to it. Turian.
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Why can't more games have interactive rape minigames?
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>>386355154
>/v/ unironically supports this feminist and SJW position which opposes the sexualization of women

How far we have fallen
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>>386355630
Will you stop relying to yourself?
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>>386355630
>opposes the sexualization of women
Nigga, /v/ is twinned with /d/. We're pro sexualisation of monsters.
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>>386355154
>>386355630
I'm fucking sorry, are you really trying to make this into another SJW shitfling? We can't even talk about fantasy races without fucking gender wars coming up?
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>>386355591
Criminal Girls isn't that popular sadly
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>>386338964
Ragist Breadbrew. Could be worse, but I'm not really feeling it.
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>>386338964
Bolkon Runebrew
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>>386355807
You should have fucking thought of that before acting like SJWs by demanding sexy women be removed from games and replaced with stupid bullshit.
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>>386338730
>Argonians aren't cute.
wrong
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>>386356573
I wish dark souls had tolkien esque races in the character creation, or at least the elven ear like dragon's dogma has
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>>386356871
Ops, didn't mean to reply, sorry senpai.
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>>386356947
faggot planeswalker
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>>386342443
the races are interesting because they're a twist on traditional equivalents and have deep an d complex history and culture.
Kirkbride wishes that he could have removed the whole 'elf' thing to make people realise how much effort the writers put into the races.
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>>386338964

Bolfur Goldsmith

Jew Dwarf
>>
>tolkien makes one popular dwarf
>all of a sudden every fucking dwarf in every damn game, movie, or book is now gimli
FUCK!
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>>386347856

if an MMO allowed me to play as something like this I would be slave to it for eternity
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>>386338964

gibe chippus
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>>386357145
Just like real life!
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>>386357516
The Dwemer from Elder's scrolls look a little different tho
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>>386355035
I can't imagine how much of a boring normie you have to be to not want a real monster waifu
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>>386338964
>Wilnar Ironhelm

I like it.
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>>386357516
This always happens.

>someone makes something interesting and different
>people instead complain about why it isn't the same as what they expected
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>>386357836
The Dwemer are dead.
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>>386357516
It's only made even more ironic by Gimli being something of an odd-ball dwarf even within the world of Tolkien.
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>>386347856
Really hoping the game lets you fully act out their attitude towards other races.
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>>386337464
>stereotyping an entire race is dumb.
that's where you're wrong
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>>386338964
Raghelm Goldshield, not terrible
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>>386341075
pig orks are fucking stupid
>>
Tell me, if skeletons are so great, how come the vast majority of skeleton options are solely human skeletons?
When dwarfes die, do their skeletons grow the ekstra feet? When lizards die, do their vastly anatomicaly different bones morph into human bones? I want to play as an elven skeleton or demon skeleton, not just a boring human skeleton
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>>386338964
wew
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>>386338964
>Thorkarl Fireshield
Sick.
>>
>>386338964
Here we go
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>>386338964
Hagin Hillstone
Meh, could be worse
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>>386353454
Because aesthetically humans/humanoids are the most pleasing to the eye. Animal or beast type classes in the end always end up looking like some kind of Furryshit, and ayylmaos that aren't humanoid in nature are usually just plain revolting to look at.
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>>386339751
*casts earthquake*
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>>386355373
Who is this guy anyway? I've seen a few pictures of him
>tfw you will never be as based as dwarfguy
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>>386338964
Gimme a name
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>>386338964
Gimkarl underbrew. What a shit name. I prefer Elves anyways.
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>>386337464
the communist ogres from dragon age
the communist aliens from 40k
dark elves from morrowind
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>>386338964
Thorkarl Axebrew
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>>386360487
*rattling intensifies*
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>>386338581
>mfw another refugee apologist
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>>386338964
roll that
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>>386336567
because (((dwarves))) are always trying to claim what isn't theirs
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>>386338964
Wilgar Axesmith. Not bad.
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>>386339351
who is this
>>
>>386338964
gimme some of that sweet braided poosi
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>>386339751
If Army of Darkness has taught me anything, and it has, it doesn't really take that much to fight skeletons. They're not actually very strong. Or very heavy, for that matter. Most of the weight of the human body is meat and water; remove all that, and you've got, what, eight pounds? You can literally just pick them up and throw them at each other.
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>>386338964
Hagnar Runebrew
What the fuck is runebrew? Brew that is made with help of runes? That would be Dwarf as fuck.
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>>386336567
Because neither are trustworthy.
Dwarves are greedy little fucks that go mad the second they acquire any wealth.
Elves are devious knife eared bastards who think they're so superior that they can just take whatever they want.
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>>386355154
Fuck that, get rid of the one on the left.
>>
>>386338964
Reinist Firesmith
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>>386336567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvJsG4F2Img
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>>386338964
Urin Goldbrew

>they know
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>>386338964
clit
>>
>>386336567
Because Tolkein said otherwise
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>>386338964
>Ragist Bloodsmith
Noice
>>
>>386361630
Who would win:

Four Ermorian legions, each five thousand strong, risen from the graves of the most capable fighters and battlefields where thousands were slaughtered, death dripping from their weapons

or

one imperial alchemist wearing some smelly shademail with a couple earth gems he found under a rock
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>>386347856
>>386350249
>>386355056
Original Sin 2 has some fucking sexy lizard girls.
>>
>>386355035
there's nothing exotic about them apart from meme skin colours or weird ears
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>>386343442
Anon, Undead are a confirmed race for release.
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>>386339106
umm wow sweetie
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>>386363421
>metamorph
>tentacle cock horns
>>
>not wanting to play as a glorious immortal, forever beautiful, mysterious and enchanting
It's like you guys have no standards
>>
>>386341075
WHFB Orcs are better if I'm honest
>>
>>386356278
>Wanting monster races to actually look like Monsters is an SJW thing now

Fuck, so many old movies and fantasy books are SJW now.
Nightmare before Christmas? SJW
Dracula? Bram Stokers Dracula?? SJW
Why are the orcs in Lord of the rings ugly and only male? Ew SJW

God I could go on all day from how retarded you sound right now.
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>>386337187
>BEC
>im-fucking-plying
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>>386339138
Hello fellow axeshield
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>>386341287
it's part of their charm
>>
>>386363836
Don't bother dude. Not only am I supposedly an SJW for wanting proper sentient feminine beasts in my fantasy games, I'm also an SJW because I prefer regular armor over comical bikinis.
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>>386339380
I beg to differ
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>>386338964

Durnar Goodmountain

i've a chink name
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>>386364018
Women in Full plate armor are more attractive than sluts in Anime """""armor""""".
>>
>>386338964
(You)
>>
>>386338964
Reingar Hillholme. A gentle dwarf who just wants to be left alone in his cozy underground nook.
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>>386338964
barba
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>>386354492
>If you aren't a furfag you just don't play things other than human.
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>>386364439
That isn't even close to what he said, you cocksucker.
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>>386364216
Why can't we just have both? I like contrast.

Like Soul Calibur kind of contrast.
>>
>>386338764
Except white people don't ruin property value and increase crime rates as much.
>>
>>386338964
>Bolhardt Doombrew

Nice. I am the greatest tavern owner and mead brewer of them all.
>>
>>386339318
>I'M STILL AUTISTIC
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>>386364557
Oh okay, if we're playing that game I'm sure if you ever get married you'll never have marital problems in the bedroom. What are you talking about I never said you are a small dicked cuck. Stop putting words in my mouth, I never even suggested anything remotely similar.

But I'll spell it out for you because I have to go.
Anon: Wow furfag
Anon: You're just being triggered by things that are different. This statement here assumes the first anon doesn't play some eldritch horror or something "different" of that variety because he insulted your fursona race. Suggesting he is "triggered by things different than human" instead of merely disliking your race of choice. Now go be a retard elsewhere.
>>
>>386338964
yeeert
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>>386365362
You attacked another anon for even implying beast races existed by calling him a furry. The other anon had a pretty good reason to call you out as threatened by something different, you twat.
>>
>>386363836
Dumbest shit I've read in years. You are comparing antagonist monsters to exotic women. They serve completely different narrative purposes and consequently people have different expectations for them in terms of character design. You are lower than an animal. Do not share your thoughts or opinions again.
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>>386364018
>WAAAAAHHHHH WHY DO PEOPLE CALL ME AN SJW WHEN I POST RETARDED SJW OPINIONS EVERYWHERE BAAAWWWWWWW
>>
>>386365306
>he said as he replied to a post six hours ago
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>>386367579
Neither of those are SJW opinions. You're misconstruing wanting consistency in a fantasy world among races and equipment with somehow pushing social agendas. If anything it shows you've got /pol/ on the brain.
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>>386367824
You want "proper feminine sentient beasts" and "le realistic equipment" instead of anything that will appeal to the young men who actually consume the media in question. You care more about bullshit politics than pleasing the customer. Enough said. You are an SJW sack of shit and stop posting.
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>>386362434
You make ale so great it's practically magic.
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>>386338964
>Wilhardt Beardbeard

rate my dwarf name
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>>386368040
>You care more about bullshit politics
That's your assumption, and it's wrong. I want realistic equipment because it's cool, I want non-retarded sexual dimorphism because it's more memorable than shitty Star Wars/Star Trek aliens which are just colored humans. Eat my balls.
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>>386338964
>Urin Axeforge
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>>386368040
>instead of anything that will appeal to the young men who actually consume the media in question.
You are the walking embodiment of horseshoe theory. That because titties are offensive to SJWs, it must mean EVERYBODY who want something other than tits is an SJW.
>>
I thought the Dwarf in the OP was fucking that elf tho
>>
>>386338964
Reinkarl Hammercock

Not bad
>>
>>386368040
God forbid games ever bother with legit world building and thought out design.
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>>386338964
Durhardt Runesmith

I'm okay with this.
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>>386338964
Durin Bloodsmith.
Fuck yeah.
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>>386349495
>>386347772
A competent dm can let you do whatever and make it viable, some are just less confident in balancing and cling to the 'rules'.
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>>386338964
Urin Undersmith

I don't like this name, I'm not pee
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>>386338964
>Reingar Beardhammer

Neat.
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>>386338964
Durin Goldfounderson here
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>>386338964
Good thread
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>>386338964
>Raggan Runebattle
Manly as fuck
>>
>>386339650
Skeletons are literraly bones commanded by magic, so there have no free will, and need a mage to move around, skeleton fags are probably autistic necromancers triying to push their pets on everybodies throats
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>>386338964
Another (You) since this thread will be bumped into autosage anyway.
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>>386338964
>Reinli Goodholme
Sounds lame as hell.
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