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>>386331623
>pic related
Where my tree bros at? Are you 25 yet?

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>buying loot and XP in a game that's already braindead

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>>386331623
>single player DLC

I guess we'll get banned for cheating in single player now.

What went wrong lads?

>>386331623
...They seriously think they're in a position to do that after that shitshow of an ending?

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>tfw never ever fall for thier mobileshit tier DLC shit
>Never payed any money, and saw jewish companies crash and burn from lack of money
Who's feeling good about this? I'd love to see this fucking company crash and burn from their decisions.

>>386331745
>Buying games that ban you in single player

>>386331850
I don't think Warner Bros. is going to crash and burn anytime soon, but I do the same thing. The only way to make these companies stop is to vote with your wallet.
With that said though, if you buy the game, they'll still interpret that as a positive vote that the cash shop is OK.

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>>386331745
>harass NPCs in-game by killing them repeatedly, calling them niggers and honking your horn incessantly
>get banned
Wooooooooooooooooooooowwww

>>386331952
This. I loved Shadow of Mordor enough that I'm still playing it from time to time, grabbing screenshots and even have my follower and nemesis ready for the sequel but I don't think I'll be buying it anytime soon now. Might just give it a pass till it's half off for the GOTY edition. Microtransactions in singleplayer games is not okay. I don't care whether they're in the form of loot boxes, xp boosts or whatever the fuck else there is. When there's a financial incentive for the dev to make the game more tedious than it needs to be due to the existence of a cash shop, my guards goes all the way up. Such a goddamned shame, I no longer have anything to look forward to for the rest of the year.

>>386332165
>Such a goddamned shame, I no longer have anything to look forward to for the rest of the year.
I play other types of games, anon. Surely you probably do too? I'm personally waiting for the next Steam sale to see if Strangers of Sword City gets discounted further and other stuff.

>>386332373
I do but I can't think of anything else that I'll be looking forward to for the rest of the year. Bannerlord doesn't have a release date, Kingdom Come Deliverance comes along next year, Total Warhammer 2 might be cool but I'm not particularly excited about it since I'm still playing the first, etc. There's nothing I'm really looking forward to, just a whole lot of maybes.

>>386331623
wanna know why your army of orcs are shit, why you gear suck and why your underleveld? its beacuse you dont give us money gyoim.

>>386331623
Will I still be able to fully play this shit offline or not?

>>386331952
>vote with your wallet
lol

>>386332479
Alright, best of luck to you then that you find something

>>386332565
It worked for Yooka Laylee and it sure as fuck worked with Ass Effect Androgenous

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>try to cheat engine
>suddenly fbi kicks in my door
>next year im in court
>be told i have stolen money from warner brothers by cheat engining
>by cheating money into the game I have made fraudelent digital currency and taken food out of the mouths of warner brothers employees
>I have to undergo a 6 month class on caring about others and holocaust reeducation so I can know what its like to go without food
>still have to go to jail because I should be punished
>in jail I try to kill myself because im trans and they refuse to send me to a womens prison because lel we cant do that (thanks trump)
>end up shanked because im a tiny white boy that wants to be the little girl

I sure love video games

>>386332632
lol

>>386332565
>I don't agree with what they're doing but I'll let them exploit me and eliminate the only tangible act of resistance I have against them by still buying their game!

>1997
>"Here put this cheat code in to get an unearned advantage in your single player game"

>2017
>"Pay us more money to get an unearned advantage in your game"

What went wrong?

>>386332663
Dead studio and further crushed reputation :^)

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>Breath of the Wild
>higher difficulty costs $25

>Shadow of War
>spend money to randomly LOWER difficulty

What the fuck is wrong with video games?

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>>386332608
Thanks anon and to you too for the Steam sale.

>>386332647
fuck off trans-generate. why must these mentally ill faggots always need to mention they're trans? Can you imagine if every time I post, I mentioned I'm a guy?

>>386332723
>What went wrong?
You mean, what went right? Fuck casuals, they deserve to be milked.

>>386332565
>throws his wallet at the nearest vendor and then grabs his ankles
>oh yes please fuck me and take my money! I have no choice but to buy your product afterall. Please fuck me mr game developer man! Hammer my prostate harder than my bank account! I'll buy every DLC you create, I just have to! Oh please cover my face in cum too!
t. You

>>386332786
((())))

>>386332749
/v/ bought horse armor "ironically" and paid 15 dollars for a single map in call of duty

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>The regret that I gave this shitty company 10 dollars for shadow of mordor

Please kill me

>>386331623
That's a shame. The first one was pretty solid but there's no way I'm wasting time or money on 2 if they're pulling this shit.

I just played Shadow of Morder recently since it was dirt cheap in that last Steam sale and I'm aware that it won countless awards the year it came out.

Having played it I can say it's a complete piece of trash, Musou is honestly a more entertaining button masher than this game.
Is this really what Americans enjoy?
Why was it so well received?
Just the gimmick system?

>>386332860
Shadow of Mordor on its own looked like a neat game. This new shit is inexcusable though.

>>386332820
lol

>>386332647
You'll be one of the first to go when the day of the rope comes :-)

>>386332774
I'd appreciate if you did, so i know to disregard everything you say

>Pay 60 dollars for base game
>But wait we will make you pay more with in game microtransactions

When did the industry turn shit?

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>>386332929
Just the gimmick system and the satisfying animations, I guess. I don't think it won any awards at all though, just a self-claimed GOTY for the GOTY edition. Most people have the game because it dropped to like $20 only a few months after release.

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>>386332820
hot

>>386332565
>fuck your scummy DLC ridden game
>but here take my money
>wtf why do they keep doing that

>>386333125
lol

>>386333026
I remember people generally praising the combat system and generally shitting on the combat system of musou games.
It's confusing.

I guess what I'm asking is:
What makes a good combat system?

>>386331623
>waited till the previous game was ~$20 and had fun with it
>will wait till this game is ~$20 and they shitcan the microtransaction system due to 'player feedback'

And that little bit of hope I had after Schrek trailer is gone.

>>386332632
>It worked for Yooka Laylee
How? I must've missed it. I know about ME:A and thank god that shit happened.

>>386333006
when people started paying

>>386333245
>What makes a good combat system?
Sengoku Basara 3

>>386333006
Blame piracy, you need to buy the game twice to make up for the people who stole it.

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>>386331623
how greedy can a people be?

>>386333267
>paying 20 doodaroos
>not getting it off of bundlestars where it goes for a few bucks everyweek

>>386333006
When people allowed themselves to get scammed. Don't buy it.

Everything is obtainable with in-game currency, you only need throw money at it if you're an impatient fuck that wants it sooner.

Literally nothing.

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>>386331623
Come the fuck on

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>>386331623
I knew this was going to become normal after SE shoved Praxis microtransactions into DE:MD.

>>386333465
So what does it mean for people who want to use cheat engine to get that currency instead of paying?

>>386333465
You want to spend 700+ hours just to get items like in For Honor?

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>>386333245
>I remember people generally praising the combat system and generally shitting on the combat system of musou games.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone compare Mordor's combat with Musou's. Mordor's combat gets a lot of flak too for being a severely dumbed down version of Bamham's combat. Aside from the satisfying takedown animations, there's almost nothing good about it. Just a whole lot of mediocrity.

As for what makes a good combat system, I dunno. I guess, off the top of my head:
>variety of moves
>moves/combos can be chained together for even more versatility
>large enemy variety with their own strenghts and weaknesses, weapon choice, movesets etc.
>good number of enemies as well as enemy placement/mob variety so the fights have a good matchup
>good animations without too much delay or i-frames to abuse
There's probably more but I haven't really given it much thought. I guess the bottom line is that I want to execute flashy moves and take down enemies by actually doing shit, not just hitting a button combination and watching an elaborate takedown animation.

>>386331623
Guess i'll buy the 20 dollar goty version then.

>>386333449
>Don't buy it
lol

>>386333553
>I don't think I've ever seen anyone compare Mordor's combat with Musou's.
No I haven't seen that widely either, I wasn't suggesting it.
That was what I noticed myself when I was surrounded by orcs who only attacks one at a time and I cleared them all out by spamming one button.
Morder is certainly heavier on animation but the core concept is the same.

I bring up the comparison because I see people who hate Musou love Morder and I have no way of rationalising that myself. I guess they really like the animations?

>>386333449
That type of advice doesn't work on big budget projects.

>>386333662
>b-but other people are going to buy it
Faulty reasonings like this are the reason retards allowed paid online to be a thing.

>>386333654
I enjoy them both. Although most Musou games I played had attacks that hit groups of enemies, and you only went one on one versus bosses. So I don't see how it's like Mordor at all, where all attacks are for single targets only.

>>386333662
>That type of advice doesn't work on big budget projects
Mass Effect: Andromeda got fucked big time because people did exactly that.

>>386333662
Excuses. It does.

>>386333534
this

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>>386333654
>I guess they really like the animations?
I guess so anon. Personally, I find myself able to enjoy both Musou's and Mordor's combat, though I won't call either of them good or in-depth. They're just entertaining in their own way and work well enough in their own games.

>>386333774
and the new deus ex.

I'm still not cancelling my preorder until the M&B Bannerlord team can come out and convince me that the game isn't vaporware. 30 minutes of new footage a year on average is not promising at all, and if I don't get a new game about sieging castles by the end of the year I'm going to go fucking crazy

>>386333534
A lot of this shit is propagating through bro-dude shit like CoD and Madden. I don't see those appealing to leftfags.

>>386333662
>That type of advice doesn't work on big budget projects.
A whole fucking studio got closed down you fucking retard.

>>386333903
That's capitalism working as intended.

>>386333421
>being this retarded
You should unironically kill yourself

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But you can unlock everything by playing the game! They can't abuse this!

>>386333465
But I want the unlock system to be designed to increase my fun. Not to try and intentionally frustrate me

>>386331623
Oh who cares, autists who buy this shit have ensured it's going to be standard in every game from now on. As long as the same things are unlockable in game without taking an outrageous amount of time i can live with it

>>386334051
>let's just live with terrorism because there's only a .00001% chance I get blown up! It's reasonable so I can live with it!

I'm buying this shit used.

>le you're forced to buy all DLC meme again

Good one /v/eddit

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>>386332647
>Trannies

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>buying games

>>386332786
>can i fit in?

>>386334282
See >>386333964
People are worried and for good reason.

>>386331745
They got too comfortable thinking that buying games is the new norm. People are only buying PC games because it's a better experience than stealing them. Now it's the other way around, we'll just be pirating shit again. What are they gonna do about it

>>386334051
>y-yeah it's all the other retards fault
>now let me throw my money away exactly like they do

>>386332647
>>end up shanked because im a tiny white boy that wants to be the little girl
hey faggot, that doesn't happen. you'll probably get a man who'll take care of you in prison and fuck you every time until he gets bored and passes you around.

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>>386333964
>unlocking shit by playing is now considered bad

>>386334654
>5,200 hours to unlock everything
>good

>>386334654
5,200 hours is 216 days of playing the game if you were to play it for 24 hours a day.

Don't be a fucking retard

>>386334481
>the exception is suddenly the norm

Us /v/edditors, right?

>>386334654
>implying it will be reasonable and not grind for a million years

>>386334654
>it's okay that they try to steal us money
>we can just suck their dicks and get the stuff for free
The masters are wise and charitable

>>386334716
>>386334741
>unlocks are just visuals and recolors
>probably wont be playing all the heroes
and you cant buy them with money

>>386334746
It only takes support for the exception to end up becoming the norm anon.

>>386334776
You do realise you can purchase steel with real life money right?

>>386334776
Except you totally can

>>386334776
Yes, why not lock costumes in fighting games behind a paywall. What's wrong with not getting the full game after paying for the game?

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>>386334824
>>386334772
>>386334845
>>386334860
you can only buy steel, with steel you can only buy visuals, or buy gear packs that ill only give you random gear that are avalable at your level with no special stats, and get after every match anyways

>>386334860
>palette swaps
>costumes

>>386334282
I don't buy incomplete products.

>>386333932
Fine, anon, I'll kill myself, but I'm doing it ironically and you can't stop me.

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>>386334880
>you can only buy visuals guys
>oh and also randomized gear that affect gameplay

>>386334930
Oh that's perfectly fine then. I love it when palette swaps are locked behind a pay wall. It's not like I used to get that shit for free in games. I mean just look at how much content For Honor has and compare it to and older game like GTAIV. It's obvious they have to charge more now for all that amazing content. It has been a great leap forward in this past decade.

>>386332749
> woop woop my nigger boyfriend is cheating on me again woop woop
“””””good music””””

>>386334880
Yes, thank you for understanding our point then. You either grind like a motherfucker for hours upon hours to maybe get the gear you want to drop or you spend real life money to buy gear packs to, also, maybe get the gear you want. When the devs are financially incentivised to make the game as tedious as possible to push people to use the cash shop, then there's cause for worry.

>>386334654

I can't believe there are still people left willing to defend for honor. I'm sure even the 3 people still playing it can't defend it.

>>386334860
do you even own the game
there are no costumes, only gear that you get for free, or if you open crates (you can buy them, but ubi is throwing them at you for free constantly)

>>386335043
>grind
>gets gear after every match
>if you open crates (get tons of them for free constantly) you only get gear that corelates with your level
>stats only matter in dominion and elim

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>>386334998
I love baiting as much as the next guy, but please read his full post. The key thing here is that while you can buy steel that you can use to buy in-game crates that give you randomized gear, the gear you get out of it matches your reputation level and is no better or worse than the randomized gear of some other player who didn't spend a single dime on the micro transactions. I suppose you can argue that it gives you a better change of getting the gear stats that you want, but the key thing here is that your gear cannot possible be more or less powerful than the gear of another player who didn't spend irlbux on the game.

>>386334968
>games with xp and loot is an incomplete product

Guess you don't buy many games huh?

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>>386335063
>I cant believe that people have different opinions than me
>surely this cant be possible

>>386334157
This is even worse than a food analogy
>>386334317
Haha I hate people for their personal choices that don't affect me too

>>386334157
there's 0% chance to get blown up if you ignore them

>>386335034
>It's not like I used to get that shit for free in games.

You mean like in For Honor?

Time IS money. You will understand when you grow up.

>>386334157
Islam isn’t going away, kafir. Get it to your thick skull.

>>386334542
I've never and will never buy one, I just think it's inevitable that all games will start to have them.

>>386335178
You're right, I don't.

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>>386335207
>Trannies

>>386331623
I've actually been hoping they'd get on with making Shadow of Isengard. They're already way into "fuck the lore" territory, so gimme Saruman as the new Dark Lord or something.

>>386331623
Nothing wrong with this. Completely optional.
I hate commie leftists that want everything for free.

>>386335247

Then why should anyone bother wasting their time on this game?

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>>386332774
>>386333001
>>386334317
>>386334637

>*becomes a magical little girl*
>*turns all of you into angry little kittens*
>*puts all of you into a basket*
>*fights bad guys and uses my little girl magic to open the basket and throw you at the evil doers*
>*saves the day and puts you back into the basket to use again*

haha

this video game will be called magical girl(boy) kitten attack!

>>386332647
Don't listen to them anon, you're a cute girl with a cute dick so please show it to me.

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>>386335123
We're not arguing that it's pay-2-win anon. We're arguing that they make you grind like a motherfucker (which is hell with FH's abysmal connection issues) to get the shit you want to push you towards purchasing crates with real money. The game becomes a chore to play especially since you get the most gear drops and steel from doing dom and elim matches, not duels, in which gear stats matter. There's reason for people to worry when they start pushing microtransaction bullshit in singleplayer game. In multiplayer, another human player might be better than you, which hinders your progress towards getting better loot and shit by winning in addition to the devs making things cost a shitton to push you towards the cash shop. In a singleplayer game, it's all on the devs to find ways to force people to use the cash shop. I'm not so naive that I'll just believe that the devs won't try to make things tedious as fuck for me to progress in order to monetise my frustrations. They have to earn that trust by providing guarantees, explanations, video evidences or all of the above. They're not guaranteed a sale just because they put out a product.

>>386332647
you faggots are worse than vegans
if you want to wear your mama's panties fine but dont spam it

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>>386331623
Was going to torrent that shit day1 anyways. No way I am forgetting this shitty final boss QTE from previous game.

Wait people are unironically defending lootboxes in a singleplayer game?

For real?

>>386331623
Why would someone pay for loot in a single player game?
Why would someone pay to make an already incredibly easy game series even easier?

If someone wanted to be a cheating casual, then why wouldn't they just use cheat engine?

>>386335532
im just saying the For Honor has it sorted pretty well
things arent overpriced, you get loot all the time and with the addition of orders progression is faster (sure its still a grind but it never really felt like the WarTunder levels of it)

>>386335613
Capitalism at work. There is demand for loot crates so company offers them.
No one is forced to buy them.

>>386333006
several years ago. remember online passes?

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>>386331623
>single player
>microtransactions
There goes my enthusiasm. There goes any hope I have to this being better then the first one.

>>386335706
>There is demand for loot crates so company offers them

where is this magical outcry for lootboxes?

>>386335613
Because it's unironically not needed to play the game.

>>386331745
The director for one of the PS3 Gran Turismo games likened glitches to stealing
>game has micro transactions to sell in game dosh
>one of the races is bugged and will always payout with a trophy car that can be sold for millions of dosh
>"to do this when we are selling a product is no different from stealing"
Rent seeking fucks

>>386335706
There is no demand for loot crates in Single player games.

>>386335794
Wrong. Loot crates affect the game when they have exp boosters and other shit because the game has to be built around these factors.

>>386335461

I want to be your little kitten :3

>>386335461
yes please

>>386335771
They have probably done market research on this.
Most likely this is going to be extremely lucrative and more publishers will adopt this model.

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>>386335957
>probably
>most likely
If you're going to talk out your ass make sure you're not full of shit first.

>>386331745
The only way this outcome is viable if the person playing stays online in a single player game.

So... here is a fun question.
WHEN DID THIS EVER WORK?!
When did microtransactions in singleplayer game EVER WORKED and did not completely backfire?

This is something that completely baffles me. I get the DLC's, the annoying pre-order ones in particular because I can kinda see those actually making a lot money, maybe enough to actually ballance out the community backlashes... But singleplayer microtransactions have never actually worked. They cause massive community outrages but I don't know of a single case where they would really actually make a lot of fucking money. Why the fuck are developers still trying this shit? Did they not learn from fucking Dead Space 3? That Asscreed game?

The fuck? "Oh yeah, we got very good standing with the community for doing a decent sandbox game with this one innovative mechanic that a lot of people enjoyed. Let's take inspiration for our next step from one game that killed a franchise and other than nearly killed it!"

Jesus one has to wonder the fuck is going on in the minds of those fucking morons. These people must be like cartoonishly stupid. This is not "cynical, exploitative business men" evil, this is wile e coyote level of stupid.

>>386335957
>market research
they studied Skinner Boxes and casinos. this isn't about providing value by positively adding to a product to solve a problem or satisfy a need. this is about extracting value by manipulating player psychology

>>386336220
cell phone games.

>>386335957
>They have probably done market research on this.
Really?
Because Dead State, Assassin's Creed Unity, Deus Ex Mankind Divided and Need For Speed Pro:Street seem to fucking disagree. I also ain't aware that Sleeping Dogs EX packs were a smashing hit considering that SQUEENIX had to remove them from the game after a little less than a year...

>>386335532
Why the fuck are you even using Uplay you retard with no self respect

>>386336650
you cant play it without

>>386332749
Videogame players are simply too stupid, that's the main problem.

>>386334654
playing the game and getting rewarded with skins/items/abilities etc. is fine, a nice progression system will keep the userbase playing.
grinding for days to get a stupid item is not, that's bordering the f2p system in a 60$ release, and dont forget the 50$ season pass goy

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>>386336650
>DRM tribalism

>>386336773
>playing a game that requires Uplay
I can't believe people like you exist

>>386336889
>grinding for days to get a stupid item is not
good thing for honor doesnt do that then

I actually wanted to preorder the game full price, remembering how much fun I had with the first one.
Then I saw the price for the full version with all DLCs. Then I checked dev stream and saw some kind of gold currency that implied microtransactions.
Someone at WB really doesn't want my money. Their loss. Maybe I'll buy it in a few years at a massive discount. Maybe I'll pirate it.

>>386331739
>underestimating how braindead casuals are

>>386336915
>thinking Uplay is anywhere near as functional as Steam

>>386336935
look at mister high horse here
you sure showed us your superior taste
thanks for showing me the light

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>>386336971
>I wanted to preorder a WB game at full price

>>386331623
Seriously what the fuck? Why is this allowed? Microtransactions should stay on mobile, where they belong.

>>386337026
I didn't even mention anything about my fucking tastes, you faggot.

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>>386337021
>valve dickriding
anon theres no reason to prop any one anticonsumer software up over another

>>386337029
Can't you read?
They earned some good faith only to piss it all away.

>>386336935
But Rayman Origins was good

>>386337074
calm down Juan, no need to be upset, these are video games we're talking about, nothing important

>>386337104
>SOM was trash for a while after launch and had comparably terrible DLC

and how's that an issue?
im going to pirate it and use CE for increasing ingame curency and get the shit I want

>>386331869
>Buy singleplayer game
>Microtransactions to lower enemy health and shit
>Do it in cheat engine
>Banned from playing the singleplayer game I own
>Sue game company kikes and get easy money

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>>386331623
And how are they going to monitor this to make sure people don't just cheat?
This is gunna be always online?

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>>386331623
>video games in 2017
Where did it all go so wrong? Go back 20+ years and tell me this is where we'd end up and I would have laughed and slapped you.

>>386337296
>>Sue game company kikes and get easy money
what is your cause of action?

>>386337359
>This is gunna be always online?
Are you psychic, anon?

>>386337359
Of course its going to be always online. The servers are going to fuck up on launch day as well and the WB is probably going to sue someone for writing a bad review about it.

>>386337551
>Of course its going to be always online.
Whelp. That's a no-buy from me. I never buy always online games.

>>386332749
At least Shadow of War is doing it right by charging casuals.

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>>386337359
https://community.wbgames.com/t5/General/The-Market-Thread/td-p/1611737/page/2

>>386337458
Stopping me from using my game that I bought

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>Loot crates in a single player game

Wow, it's fucking nothing.

Who the fuck cares?

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>>386331623
It wont stop until you cease buying these kinds of games.

>>386331623
kek, i will pirate it and just add all the boxes

>>386337746
why does that give you a cause of action? you're going to have to do better than that. you need to create a case showing that they did something they weren't supposed to or allowed to do, and that because of their actions you incurred damages. so answer the following questions:

what duty did they owe you?
how did they breach that duty?
what are your damages?
and how are your damages proximately caused by their breach?

>>386337769
good goy

Reminder that this is the company that used to make stuff like NOLF.

>>386337927
Stop arguing with autists.

>>386336220
GTAO

>>386337927
>The ability to play my game
>Stopped me from playing my game
>No game to play
>See number 2

>it's always online

In the trash it goes

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>>386335937
>>386335896
okay i already have a bf but thats okay, you can be my kittens and together we will be the kittrio,we will fight crime and get in all sorts of compromising situations!

>>386338000
Is it really?

>>386338064

See>>386337684

>>386336220
You don't need to snare any more than a fraction of a fraction of idiots with loose wallets for it to work unless it consumes significant portions of market share that say no I won't buy the game at all.

>>386338128
wew lad, dropped

Do people still pay for games in 2017? I stopped doing that when they introduced cut content as dlc and microtransactions

>>386337746
>Stopping me from using my game that I bought
>He thinks he bought the game and not a licence for it

>>386338221
Not people, just retards

>>386337889
got denuvo+ always online

>>386338236
>Buy game disc
>LOL NO GOYIM U ONLY BOUGHT THE LICENCE LMAO
Yea, no, sorry sweetie, you'll have to do better than that

>>386335613
Underage neo/v/edditors of course.

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>>386333421
>Blame piracy, you need to buy the game twice to make up for the people who stole it.

No, you need to buy the game twice to pay for all those parasite suits and middlemen who have nothing to do with game development iself.

>>386335613
Tell me anon, what does it matter?

You don't have to buy them.

>>386336220
They don't care. They will continue to try these cancerous practices over and over until people submit.

>>386335890
Well, considering how retardedly easy the first game was. The sequel might actually be fun this time then.

>>386338417
Because it sets a precedent. Suddenly less and less content can be unlocked the old fashioned way, and only via paying.

>>386335461
Phew

>>386338417
Experience boosters affect the way the gameplay is designed. And this is objectively fucking shit.

>>386338436
>VR first came out in the 60s or 70s
>Flopped
>Assholes try it again now
>Flop again
Sure, they can keep trying it, but it's up to us, the consumers, to make sure bad practices and bad products fail.

>>386331952
No microtransaction sales are a success for microtransactions. But still people will buy it because its there

>>386338621
Indeed. The problem is now that video games aren't the niche hobby they once were it's getting harder to fight back.

>>386335806
When you go by that logic you understand why T2 would go after GTAV mods hard, cheaters are stealing MILLIONS of real dollars from them

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>>386337746
Online games usually make you agree to EULA that basically gives them the right to do this to you with no consequences to them.

>lootboxes
>always online
Holy shit, this is like shouting "I FUCKING HATE YOU ALL BUY MY GAME YOU FUCKS".
Wow this fucking industry, man.

And damn this thread is riddled with dense shills.

>>386338621
lol

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>>386338316
>you'll have to do better than exactly how games are treated by the law if you want to stop me from suing

>>386331623
>Micro-transactions
>In a single player game
Day one pirate. When you buy a game upfront you should own it and it shouldn't cost you extra to make it not tedious, boring garbage.

>>386339174
lol

>>386332647
that's what you get for cheating like a faggot

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>>386331623
>loot boxes and experience microtransactions
>IN A SINGLEPLAYER GAME
This has gone too far and I know the casuals will let them get away with this.

>>386331623
Well, can't wait for them to make the progression in the game incredibly tedious, grindy and unfun unless you pay them money.

Heh, and they wonder why I've stopped buying video games.

>>386339453
That's exactly what it'll be balanced around. And the worst part is people will still defend it like some faggots in here are already doing.

>>386339341
It's an always online single player game with microtransactions, feels like it'll give my other games computer AIDS if I pirate it.

>>386339341
>Day one pirate
Like you day one pirated total war warhammer uh?

How can I voice my opinion to them? I was actually going to buy it day one because it releases on my birthday but now I'm not keen anymore.

>>386339229
>Living in burgerland
Enjoy getting JEWED while I'm getting BLACKED

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>>386338392
>The only thing you need to do to sell a game is develop it

bruh...

>>386331623
Is it an MMO?

Will these things be server-sided?

If not, trainers ahoy.

>>386339786

Send them an email. Sure it'll probably end up straight in the spam folder, but you never know.

The only thing you can objectively do is to NOT buy it.

Pirate it. Steal it. Murder someone and inherit it.

Just don't buy.

>i-it's okay guys, the microtransactions are unnecessary, it's nothing!
if we allow this shit then sooner or later players who don't use microtransactions are gonna be at a genuine disadvantage in terms of gameplay like in f2p/p2w mmo's

but I suppose it's all okay because it'd glorious free market capitalism at work and we should all be thankful and happily choke on corporate cock like true patriots

>>386339657
just like re 7, tekken 7 lmao

>>386339786
Fire-bomb their offices and spray paint your opinion on the walls of the building.

That should get the message across. I think gamers really need to start getting more serious about letting companies know that what they're doing is not okay.

>>386339969

The only thing we can do is to not buy.

>>386335806
...Why didn't PD just PATCH THE GAME?

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when you buy a chest, the orc look like a jew

>>386331745
That already happened with Starcraft 2.

People got banned for using cheat engine/trainers in the campaign before the programmed-in cheats were discovered, because while the developer ones disable achievements when enabled, the trainer ones didn't. So people would still earn shit like portraits and crap while cheating.

And Blizz banned them for that.

>>386340154
Typical.

>>386340173
Another reason why achievements are cancer.

>>386339873
Can't even find a proper email for them. Keeps taking me to some other WB bullshit portal.

Reading the forums is horrendous. Every 2nd or 3rd post is praising the inclusion of micro-transactions. Absolute filth.

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i honestly hope that none of you faggots will buy this shit.
if you really need to play it, i probably will, pirate it.

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>>386332647

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>>386340661
You've gotta be kidding me.

>>386337296
You already fucked up at step one, two, three, four and five by buying a single player game where you can be banned to begin with. That's my point.

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>>386340154
((They)) know, and they are blatantly telling you that they know. Yet you still do as they want and they laugh.

>>386340661
In this day and age, it wouldn't surprise me if companies pay for multiple shill accounts to praise their own unpopular decisions. Have a few shills set the tone of the discussion, then others will follow.

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>The nemesis system was the only thing this generic game had going for itself
>Lets ruin it by adding the newest money scheme in gaming

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>>386331623
?????? why??????????
the fuck is this cancer??????

>>386332786
Honestly this. Can't think of a single good game with micro transactions like this kind of shit. Closest thing is CSGO skins

>>386333370
This, people are willingly paying for single player dlcs so why should they stop?

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>>386340924
>>386340842
You got some people praising it and others hating it so there is a balance but still. Absolute filth.

>>386340661
It shouldn't be a crime to murder internet shills.

>>386341256
Jesus, this looks so fucking mechanical.

>>386341256
>that first post
No one naturally talks like that. No one tries that hard to convince you that bullshit isn't bad.
>four stars
What the fuck

>>386339341
>Day one pirate.

Why even play it?

>>386341256
That first post is a shill. They always have a certain way of talking, and they always use the same copy pasted arguments.

>>386332647
You deserve that fate, fag.

>>386339842
No, of course you need some corporate, but this is the age of the internet, word of mouth x100000, you dont need to pay to cover all of central park with adds of your product nor you need ads in the superbowl to sell. In other words you needs some executives but you dont need ten MANAGERS OF BRANCH OF EXECUTIVE OF SENIOR OF LEAD DESIGN OF MORNING COFFEE. Take a look at the credits of any AAA game and youll see where most of the money goes.

>>386339137
>EULA
I've always wondered about the legality of those
They're only presented to you after you bought the product and disagreeing means you can't use your fucking product
There's also the international aspect, not everywhere is the US

>>386341256
The first one is an obvious shill, the way he writes reeks of marketing talk.

>>386341579
The stars are like a form of 'upvoting'

>>386341256
>That retarded argument about why micro-transactions are okay
Fucking retard literally completely missed the point of why this shit is a problem. That being the twofold reasons that:
1. When you buy a game all of that game's content should be freely available and designed to be accessible without expending any additional money
2. When micro-transaction features are introduced into a game the developers are incentivised (often even forced by their publishers) to design the game to be less enjoyable and more tedious for those who do not spend money.

For anyone who needs proof, you simply have to look at literally any game with these types of micro-transactions, it's immediately obvious upon playing these games that they are designed to make the game tedious and unfun enough when played for free that the player is forced to either bear with the game not being fun or pay extra money to make the game fun.

For a game that is free this isn't a problem, can't really complain about a free 2 play game not being that fun when you don't spend any money one it because it's something you can still play for free. However when you already payed full price for the game it not only feels insulting but also just downright wrong to have certain aspects of the game made deliberately less fun purely to try and force you to spend even more money beyond the full price tag just to make the game fun.

>>386341695
Because I enjoyed the first game but refuse to support anti-consumer practices like micro-transactions in full price games.

>>386341836
They're toilet paper, but only if you bring them to court and by that point you have spent more in your lawyer and your case than if you bought the same game 1000 times.

>>386341836
My understanding is that, in some jurisdictions, if you disagree with or refuse to accept the EULA, you're entitled to return the product for a full refund. Whether the retailer will GIVE you a refund is a different story.

>>386339137
Depending on what the EULA contains, it can get ripped up. In Sweden we have pretty strong consumer protections, meaning you can't sign away certain rights as a consumer. If any contract you sign tries to make you sign away shit that you should always have the right to according to law, the contract itself is completely null. I'm not entirely sure how the law sees digital stuff like games though.

>micro-transaction in a full price single player game
And that kids is why having a market where the average customer is 13 years olds is a problem, they just don't know better.

>>386341953
QFT
All anons should read this.

>>386340661
Link?

>>386341836
In europe videogames eula are illegal, thing is you need to go to a judge at it costs more than the game.

>>386342602
https://community.wbgames.com/t5/General/The-Market-Thread/td-p/1611737

Not sure if you can view without an account though.

>>386331745
>use a trainer to freeze your gold count
>"you are LITERALLY stealing food from our mouths woooooooooow"

Luckily, I don't buy shit games.

>>386332647
>end up shanked because im a tiny white boy that wants to be the little girl

Haha, right. "Shanked". That's we do to trans white boys in prison. Now drop them draws white girl.

>you don't NEED to buy them
yeah, juts like you didn't NEED to use the auction house in diablo 3
wait, they designed the game around it and made getting good loot 100x more tedious as a result, and the game is always online as a result (same here)

>>386343724
>you don't NEED to buy them
God I fucking loathe that non-argument.

>There's actually something to spend mirian on other than upgrades
Sounds great. The issue with the first game was the lack of things to buy once you upgraded your character. The bonus Miriam was worthless in all of the DLC campaigns because of this.

>>386331623
It's Deus Ex MD all over again.

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can't wait until every single game has loot boxes
this is the future we chose

>>386343880
I can safely say that I did not choose it.

Watch Monster Hunter World pull this shit too and put in a cash shop for buying rubies and plates.

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>>386342806
>https://community.wbgames.com/t5/General/The-Market-Thread/td-p/1611737
Watching people be ok and some outright praise adding micro-transactions to the only original thing the game had fills me with disgust. I wish I was in the room when this got pitched so I could puke on the man.

>>386333662
>big budget projects are already going to be bought by a ton of other people anyways
>you might as well buy them too, not buying it won't effect how the game does

This better be bait.

>>386344153
People disgust me. And they wonder why they're so poor.

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>>386331745
>Borug Irontusk
>Immune to weapons $10 or under

This is your nemesis today lads

>>386343880
Not really, we didn't choose this. The idiots who are led around by the nose by marketing propaganda were the ones that chose this. Gaming publishers have been slowly leading the industry in this direction for years now with the long term plan of making these practices the norm so that they can make more money. They have actual psychologists that they pay to design their marketing schemes over the decades, specifically knowing how far they need to push and in what areas to extend so as to edge the monetary exploitation JUST far enough to bother people but still be acceptable enough to the average consumer that they'll still pay.

It's called shaping the market using long term strategies.

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They realized they can monetize everything we take for granted.

It'll only get worse and worse.

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>>386340154
>wait a minute, those hands.....

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>>386344483
>those hands

>>386344445
Nail on the head my friend. Just like privacy and rights that get slowly eroded over time so people don't know until it's too late.

And this is why socialism will always be better than capitalism

In a capitalist society, all games would be free, people would make games just to make their fans happy, they wouldn't give a shit about profit

>>386332774
So you took that post seriously, huh?

>>386344861
No.

>>386344861

no retard. shit isnt just "free" under socialism. You would still have some sort of wages or other purchasing power to divvy up on things you want, and people would still need to be paid for their labor. Communism would be a moneyless society.

>>386331623
Well this just fucking sucks
I enjoyed shadow of mordor quite a bit and I felt it had a lot of areas to improve and become even better. This has completely killed my interest in the sequel though

>>386344861
I'm a socialist and even I think you're retarded
Read a book

>>386332647
Dick or gtfo

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>>386331623

>how to turn a 9/10 potential release to an instant 5/10 garbage

F

>>386346891
How do optional microtransactions ruin the game for you? Are you that much of a fucking crybaby that the thought of other people spending money upsets you?

who even buys these shitty movie games?

I still wanna play it, but that level of cashgrabbing drops it to a used purchase only.
Or just a pirate if I dont care about a physical copy.

>>386339528
You should see the official forums man, it's fucking awful. So many people defending this shit.

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>>386337296
>Sue game company
So you violated the terms of service, continued to cheat, were appropriately banned, and now you want to filed a lawsuit?

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>falling for the AAA meme

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>>386337095

>using multiple publishers software created for the sole purpose of distributing proprietary games for higher monetary gains
>not recognizing the superior service

>>386347794
Fuck off shill.

>>386349020
>shill because I don't care about optional microtransactions in a single player game
Cry more.

>>386347794
If they are offering xp boosters that also means the normal xp gain will be ass to incentivize the purchase.

>single player microtransactions
>in a shitty sequel to a shitty ripoff of assassin's creed (which is also shit)
I seriously hope nobody's planning to actually play this garbage.

0/10 would not pirate

>>386344861
>in a capitalist society, all games would be free
I think you fucked up. Also you obviously dont know what socialism actually is.

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>>386337998
Unfortunately you likely sign an agreement upon purchase/play that states you are not purchasing the game, but the right to play the game. There is also likely a clause that states you agree to give up your right to play that game if they deem it necessary (IE caught cheating or in the event servers are down for maintenance) all likely in some scrolling boilerplate

>>386331850
Are you a Nederlander?

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>>386331623
>dlcs
>items locked behind a marketplace

So this is the future of gaming, first they want you to pay up for a unfinished game.

Then they want you to pay for ingame items.

60 dollar game, 15 dollar dlc, 5 dollar item.

>>386349340
If there was a cash shop where you can buy XP boosts by themselves, your fears would be a little less unfounded. XP boosts are random drops in these boxes. The boxes can be bought with the money you get from branding and killing orcs, the thing you do most often in the game.

>>386349989
>item locked behind a marketplace
Like any game where you have currency and buy items?

>Not buying standalone games but pirating the DLC

If you dont support shitty practices like DLC, they will go away, its as simple as that

Same goes for multiplayer, should neck yohrself if you play anything other than coop with friends though

>>386350302
Real world money not game currency, shill.

>>386350491
It's not DLC though, it's worse. It's paying real money for a CHANCE to get better items/weapons/etc.

It's gambling in a full price game. Personally I cant wait until it's even more accepted and considered the norm. Wait until something like a mainline Pokemon game gets this kind of loot crate bullshit. That's when the shit will really hit the fan.

>shit like this
>and shit behind this going on for a long time
>consumerism
>by-product of capitalism
Not even praising an ideology or anything but you must be an idiot to not see how this is bad, especially long term.

>>386350491
>not pirating everything
This industry deserves to die.

>>386350703
>Please note: No content in the game is gated by Gold. All content can be acquired naturally through normal gameplay.

Please stop being retarded

>>386335806
That was GT6, maybe if the game had more SP content people would grind that race.

Fuck who am I kidding I'd of done it anyways like I did with that one special event in GT4 to get that Toyota concept rally car that you could sell for a few 100k a pop.

>>386331623
>loot chests and xp boosts
it's nothing. i thought it might've actually have been something to worry about

>>386350793
Please my little shill, the incentive buil into the system is for the devs to make acquiring these itens by normal means much more of a hassle to make players buy them with real money.

>>386352704
Yeah I'm sure it's going to be such a hassle to brand orcs in a game based around the nemesis system. Did you even play Shadow of Mordor?

>>386350062
So you're saying the extremely boring orc grind has a random chance of being a smidgen less grindy and boring if your loot crate coughs up an ex boost. I'm so grateful now. Or the grind could just be a manageable amount that doesn't require me to pray or pay the RNG gods.

>>386331745
>he doesnt remember
https://www.destructoid.com/attorney-dead-space-3-resource-exploit-might-be-theft-244604.phtml

>>386339128
You know they probably unironically feel this way which is why they go out of their way to ban, and rollback hacked money.
Maybe it will convince them to add true anti-cheat to their shit fucking GTA:Online someday, or at least implement anti-cheat in future Rockstar Online™ titles.

>>386331623
JUST

>>386353134

If you read the microtransaction pages there's going to be rare orcs.

>>386331623

Woah, I can't wait to unlock War Chests™ filled with Loot © and Strengthen my Army ®.

>>386357703
Don't forget to subscribe to the $19.99 monthly Lootboxes and get awesome stuff like [T-Shirt of Cool +2] and [Authentic Vinyl Model of NPC] and [Ironic but Funny Meme Stickers].

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>>386331623
What the fuck?

>>386334654
You remember the old PS1 Spider-Man games that gave you all those costumes to unlock? Imagine if it took 5,200 hours to unlock all those costumes, would that make it a good game?

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>>386332647
If you're cute, blow everyone who is of import in upcoming hearings.
Wham.

>>386354808
>extremely boring orc grind
If you don't like fighting and collecting orcs, why would you buy the game in the first place?

we are the vocal minority
we can vote with our wallets as long as we want but for each one of us there are 5 normalfags that will gladly spend money on this, because it's all they know

Is this a method used to regain some money from sites like G2A?

There it is.
>it's only cosmetics, it means nothing!
And yet here some loot crates for a fucking singleplayer game. The precedent has been set by the retarded people who buy this stuff.

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>>386331623

>>386331623
>wb needs more money for some reason
>better force the game devs to throw in a microstransaction system that the game doesn't need at all, like in anyway
>you just got a boost in credibility by giving out that free update to Shadow of Modor

Why the fuck, for what reason? What's wrong with publishers

>>386362046
But it doesn't matter to the average player. If retards want to waste their money, let them. I can still collect my orcs the normal way and buy a lootbox with regular in game currency if I feel like it

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>>386331745
>What went wrong lads?
Americans making video games.

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>>386362242
Why are you acting like the East didn't popularize this shit?

>>386361091
>If you don't like fighting and collecting orcs, why would you buy the game in the first place?

I do like me some pokeorc

I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To Brand them is my real test
To train them is my cause

I will travel across Mordor
Searching far and wide
Each dumbass orc to understand
The power that's inside

Evil orcs, gotta brand 'em all
Its you and me
I know it's my destiny
Smelly orcs, oh, you're useless turds
In a world we must defend
Stupid orcs, gotta brand 'em all
A heart untrue
Our courage will pull us through

You serve me and I'll brand you
Filthy orcs, gotta brand 'em all
Gotta brand 'em all
Yeah

Every stronghold along the way
With courage I will take
I will battle every day
To punch Sauron's face

Come with me, the time is right
There's no better team
Arm in arm we'll win the fight
It's always been our dream

Ugly orcs, gotta brand 'em all
Its you and me
I know it's my destiny
Useless orcs, oh, you're my best mooks
In a world we must defend
slaver orcs, gotta brand 'em all
A heart untrue
Our courage will pull us through

You serve me and I'll brand you
Warlike orcs, gotta brand 'em all
Gotta brand 'em all
Gotta brand 'em all
Gotta brand 'em all
Yeah