COMFY MANIA THREAD

>>386331408
Would Niggles Chaotix run on an O3DS?

Replaying the Genesis games back to back, I forgot how much the unique stage gimmicks add to 3&K. The first two game had some gimmicks but not nearly as many. Each 3&K stage has several, most of which are creative and well implemented. They really add a lot of flavor to the game that the previous two were lacking. Don't get me wrong, 1 and 2 are still fantastic, but they are also much more straightforward.

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Should we expect some Mania music to drop this Monday or we waiting till Thursday?

>>386331512
Try for yourself if your 3DS can install CIAs.
https://mega.nz/#!SQZjRLYa!8UsNBcbT_pANwdxY9W3zfnyLBwZmD56hGi9tM-P82AI

>>386331839
Thanks dog, thought I was gonna have to go through the hassle of installing retroarch and picodrive and shit.

>>386331408
did it ever come to sense that the theme there for the 3ds has sonic in a mario costume and mario in a sonic costume, but the interesting part is that sonic is wearing a costume such as regular clothes; a Hat and overalls, where as mario is wearing sonics skin almost. sort of morbid

>>386331839
Did you upload that cia or get it from a website?
Because the only one I know is 3DSiso and it doesn't have many Sega games.

>>386332068
I found it on 3DSISO but I personally save virtual console games that I install onto my hard drive. There's an actual 3DSISO thread with a whole collection of Sega VC games in a MEGA collection. That's where I got the games in the webm.

>>386331835
Who knows, I just won't anticipate it so it's a surprise when it drops

>>386332162
It runs like shit, but this also seems to be an older version of retroarc, so I dunno.

Will Studiopolis Act 2 surpass Act 1?

>>386332459
act 2 is always better

>>386332531
Sandopolis

>>386332640
all of sandtopolis is bad

>>386332691
But Act.2 is still worse.

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OH SHIT NEW HYDROCITY LEAK

>>386332691
Wrong. It's a great level. What is it about the -polis levels triggering casuals?

>>386332780
This however is accurate. Act 2 isn't as good as act 2.

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>>386332829
Reminds me of the Hill Top "leak".

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>yfw the unlock for the medallions is a "classic chao garden"

>>386332829

dohohoho

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I'm so confused by the complete fucking trainwreck the story in Sonic Forces is shaping up to be. Do people unironically play Iizuka games for the plot?

Fuck I'd kill for a port of the Dreamcast versions of Sonic adventure 1 & 2 on the 3DS.
Portable Chao Garden and shit.

>>386333231
I'd kill for competent ports of the Adventure games to any modern place.

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>>386333231
>>386333278
I want a remaster for Adventure 1 and 2 that's as good as I remember those games being when was a kid.

>>386333278
The SA2 ports on PS360 were fine.

>>386333346
So you want brand new games then.

>>386333351
Not really. Shading was fucked and they turned Battle into DLC.

>>386333351
To be honest I didn't bother with the SA2 port after seeing how broken the SA1 one was. I assumed 2's would be just as shitty.

>>386333401
All they'd need to do is eliminate the handful of bugs the DC version had and maybe clean up the hub stuff and Big's levels. Everything else still holds up.

>>386333429
It was pretty ok, there is some evident poor porting though.

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I'm playing through all the originals on SMS and Genesis in preparation. What is everyone's favourite?

>>386332829
Knuckles needs to patch that up

>>386333548
Sonic 3&K (or Sonic 3 Complete) is my favorite Genesis one while Sonic 1 is my favorite SMS/GG one.

hydrocity is a meme level. ice cap needs to be brought back.

>>386333729
I prefer Ice Cap but both are really good.

>>386333729
Calling something a meme isn't an argument. Hydrocity is the more memorable zone. People only like Ice Cap for the music anyway while Hydrocity is both a fun zone to go through AND the music is fantastic.

>>386333729
L A V A R E E F

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>>386333671

I absolutely rate S3&K as the ultimate platformer and I put it up there as one of my favourite games of all time.

I remember getting Sonic 3 for my birthday when it first came out and completing it in a day. There was something so awesome about the game but when I heard that there was a piggyback on Sonic and Knuckles, I was blown away and thought all games would do this in the future.

Because we couldn't afford games I used to hire Sonic and Knuckles regularly and complete it over the weekend, only to have it return.

Eventually I managed to get a copy of it, and got hyper-everything.

I still run through it at least once a year.

>>386333548
Tails Adventure

>>386333861
Nah Ice Cap is fun to play as well. Honestly I think I prefer Hydrocity's music but still like Ice Cap better overall. Sonic 3 levels are great in general though except Carnival Night.

I've never played that much classic Sonic.
I beat Sonic the Hedgehog last year. It took me a while because I kept starting from the beginning when I got a game over.
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 gave me a lot more trouble because even though the Continue system made it easier to keep going, Metropolis Zone and Wing Fortress Zone kept me back and I stopped playing for a while.
Then I played through Sonic 3 and beat that pretty easily but it had an in-game save system so I felt like I cheated and didn't really beat the game officially. I'm going to come back to it and replay it without a save file so I can't continue and can beat it properly.
And today I came back to playing Sonic 2 and worked out how to get past Wing Fortress Zone easily (I still fucking hate that level) and got Metal Sonic's pattern down pat before I lost all my continues on the Eggman robot. I just need to play through the game from the start one more time and I know I'll be able to beat it.
I can't wait for Mania.

>>386334113
I'll say that I very much enjoy Ice Cap Act 2. Nice and speedy.

I'm considering getting Mania on the Switch. Tbh I don't care much for Sonic games, I've always been firmly in camp Mario, but I miss the rivalry and want to see the franchise back in favor of the gaming public. Plus the game seems very obviously a labor of love it seems wrong not to support it. Maybe this will be the one to convert me into a fan.

>>386333887
you are my negro

>>386333894
I remember going to the mall to buy Sonic & Knuckles with my dad. Basically through Mania fueled hype I've hyper cleared 3&K about 5 times. I fucking love the game and hope I can almost endlessly replay Mania just the same.

>>386333231
No, put it on the Switch instead. Give me the option for portable play as well as relaxing on my big telly.
But port Jet Set Radio and Crazy Taxi first. Those games are so fucking good that I'll buy them over and over again.

>>386334131
You'll be able to emerald clear all the games at some point. Just keep trying.

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>mfw indifferent to whether or not Mania ends up good since Tee Lopes' music will sustain me for the next year anyway

>>386333894
I was in a similar situation. My Dad got me Sonic 3 from the local Sears of all places but I only got a few games a year because shit was expensive so when & Knuckles came out I had to frequently rent it from Blockbuster. I think I ended getting my own copy a year or so later. 3&K is my favorite 2D platformer hands down.

>>386334359
The music is great. At first I was kind of bummed because they don't sound like the same style as the Genesis games, but the more I started thinking about Mania as a lost Saturn Sonic game the more I liked the change up and felt it made sense. People say the music sounds like CD and while there are some vague similarities the music revealed so far feels pretty distinct.

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GO

>>386334531
No fuck that level I'm angry with it right now.

>>386334359
I'm gonna be honest, I found Tee's work before this pretty mediocre.

>>386332829
Aaron, is that you?

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>>386334531
>Knuckles act 2
>flooding the level with no air bubbles available

>>386334557
Launch Base is comfy though anon.

>>386334649
Launch Base Act 2 is legitimately kinda difficult as Knuckles.

>>386334657
Not when I keep getting stuck in the floors it's not. Never had that issue on the Genesis (although it happened once in Carnival Night).

>>386334531
GO GO GO
GO GO GO
GO GO GO
GOGOGO GO

>>386334531
doo doo doooo doo -
do doo doo doo doo

>>386334593
You didn't even like his 2012 Sonic 1 mixes? They were fantastic IMO.

Is there any point in buying the vinyl?

>>386335007
It all comes down to if you want select Sonic Mania tracks on a vinyl. It's not that hard of a decision to make.

>>386335007
Its a cool collectors item but that's about it

Even that 3-second glimpse of Studiopolis Act 2 has me so hyped.

The level design looks so fun. And I'm DYING to see the new levels.

>>386335007
If you don't actually have a reason to have a vinyl, then no. I'm just going to wait until someone inevitably rips and uploads the OST and add it to my music collection.

>>386335145
I'm really excited to see the gimmicks they thought up. Must be more then the bingo balls in Act 2.

>>386335268
I'm sure there's a lot of mixing-and-matching.

We've seen those spiral towers from Marble Garden, and the unfurling bridges from Mushroom Hill, but instead they're in Stardust Speedway.

Anyone have that Studiopolis Act 2 webm?

>>386334531

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=528Cmof_mOo

How long does it take to finish 1/2/3?

I wanna play then before Mania

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Imagine the day someone tries to port it to the real deal.

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All the real niggas in this thread that beat Sonic 1 with all six emeralds sound off

>>386335608
If you don't actually try and speedrun them, you can do 1 in about an hour, and 2/3K in about 90 minutes, each.

>>386335608
They're short. Maybe 2-3 hours each at most.

>>386335639
I did years ago. I usually don't bother with the emeralds in 1 anymore.

>>386333887
This nigga knows his stuff. Nothing...NOTHING beats the deactivation of the Death Egg.

>>386333921
shittt such a good game.

is game gear emulation...

KEGAFUSION SEE YOU LATER GAYMERS

>>386335608
Like thirty minutes to an hour for all three each.

>>386335639
I did it a while ago. Would be nice if getting all the emeralds in Sonic 1 actually did anything aside from adding some extra flowers and animals to the ending cutscene.

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>>386335639
I did recently just because, but the other anons are right. I don't usually bother considering the difference is not that big.

>>386335639
Did it a few days ago for the first time. Never gonna bother with getting them all in Sonic 2 though.

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>>386334740
My last run I had a similar issue with Hydrocity Zone Act.1, shit was annoying & weird since I never had it happen before. If only we could've gotten that Taxman remake so we never get those issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yqtjdrdVq0

comfy as fuck little video, nice watch pre hype for mania

>>386334427
I actually had Sonic and knuckles first, thinking IT was Sonic 3..I unfortunately also had a malfunctioning control port on my genesis. When I played, the character on screen wouldn't respond to my input unless I applied pressure to the connection. My parents thought it was the game itself so they returned it. No copies were left so I got Jurassic Park rampage edition instead. It acted up too and my mom threw down my genesis in anger. That Christmas, they got me a new one bundled with Sonic 3 and Sub Terrainia. I was lucky in that a family friend owner S&K so I'd borrow that and everything just worked out.

>>386335930
i wish my mom had been passionate enough to destroy consumer electronics

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>>386335859
taxman remakes do have their issues though. I've died because of shit reasons sometimes.

>>386335742
Kega Fusion is the only cartridge based Sega console emulator you need, even if it hasn't been touched by the dev in 7 years.

>>386335986
If i may ask, is there any explanation as to why the screen likes to flicker black when playing it? I don't recall it happening on older computers. Other genesis emulators work just fine.

>>386331408
NANANANANANANANANA
YOU'RE GIVING ME A LITTLE MANIA
i love you all old faggots in these threads

>>386336051
I've never had a flickering problem. Could be on your end.
If it continues, might as well just use Genesis Plus GX or something.

>>386335930
>Jurassic Park Rampage
I loved how retarded that game was.

>>386336094
Probably just some of the hardware being a little too new. Plus GX is alright if you don't mind not all romhacks working.

>>386331839
How does one begin hacking at their 3DS?

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>>386335639

Nah, my real niggas are the ones that did in the Master System games.

>>386336168
If you're using RetroArch I've found that Picodrive basically runs any hack, mostly because it doesn't give a single shit about accuracy.

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxiWVTH0Jdk

>>386336202
First you need a icepick.

>>386336232
I'll have to look into that, thanks.

>>386336225
Master System and Game Gear had ghetto-ass Sonic games.

>>386336202
Is your 3DS up to date? I hope not.

>>386336225
count me in
i have copies of almost all ms sonic games

>>386336262
Got it. I'm trusting you here anon, don't fail me.

>>386336234
God I can't stand those vocals. Gimme the guy that sings on the Sonic The Hedgehog Remix album any day instead.

>>386336350
Triple Trouble was released on the MS wasn't it? I try and check on rom sites and none of my usual ones have Triple Trouble, though they have 1, 2, Chaos and Blast.

>>386336435
>they have 1, 2, Chaos and Blast.
i have those but not triple trouble
never played it actually
my dad got me a game gear back then but wasn't able to find the game

>>386335967
>passionate
Nah son. She had a range of anger issues she'd take out on things or us. in her defense I was insisting over and over that it wasn't the game and at the time she was completely tech retarded, so yeah.

>>386336435
Triple Trouble was hacked by a fan to utilize the Master System's bigger resolution with slightly buggy visual results, but it still helps out. Check the hack list on Sonic Retro to find it.

>>386336525
So Triple Trouble was never actually officially released on the MS? Or was it just not ripped? Doesn't seem the Japanese counterparts Sonic and Tails 1 & 2 were ripped either while the only ripped version of Blast that exists is the Brazil cart.

>>386332640
>>386332691
I honestly love Sandpolis act 1. I hated it when I was younger and even when I was older I had a hard time getting through the stage without getting a time out, but now a days I love how the level slowly shows you mechanics and then keeps stacking them on top of eachother until your hectically scurrying to the end of the stage. Like, push a block and running out of a room that's filling with sand while ghosts start to circle you and slowly get stronger just make the level tense and fun.

honestly if you like chemical plant zone and dislike Sandpolis you're probably fairly casual

>>386333894
Same, I feel like every level is good at worse, and the games only real downside is the barrel in carnival night zone. I don't see how someone couldn't consider 3&K as one of the best platformers of all time.

>>386336148
I still think the biggest hear stop/racing moment in games for me was the first time the cargo ship started flooding.

>>386336574
>the only ripped version of Blast that exists is the Brazil cart.
so blast was originally a gg game?
i'm from brazil and i have the ms version

>>386336574
As far as I know, no. So the hack on retro is your best bet.

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What are the BAD musical pieces of Sonic 1, 2, 3, K, and CD?

>>386336640
It was on both GG and MS, though I think the MS version was actually Brazil only now I think about it.

>>386336689
Not really a fan of Marble's music.

>>386336689
Most of the S&K Collection's exclusive tracks.

>>386336689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID7__AZGyUw

i wish these threads would last forever
i'm comfy af among other classic sonic fans

Anyone know about this Sonic rip off called Socket? Had some pretty fucking good music for a Sonic clone, so it got something right at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z704nw1__P8

>>386336818
>flying battery
>lava reef
>hidden palace
>death egg

Yeah, nah.

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I wish there was a version of this for Mania with Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles.

Or maybe even just a version with only Sonic and Tails.

>>386336818
>>386336947

Sorry, misread that last part.

Yeah, that OST was awful.

>>386336940
this song would fit a sonic game
i like it

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>>386333729
>>386333861
>>386333887
Move aside, ladies. A real man's stage coming through. This deserves to come back in Mania.
https://youtu.be/3Qw10LYqye4
https://youtu.be/hlZQs88r1m0

>>386336689
I've never been a fan of Launch Bases' theme. Something about it is goofy and the constant "go"s stand out really badly.

>>386336298
They're alright, but anyone saying they're better than the Genesis games is being contrarian.

do you guys think that the pc version will have modding capabilities?

>>386337087
Taxman would be a bit of a cunt to make the game closed source when he got his name and experience off of hacking Sonic games. Also considering how there's no demo specifically to avoid datamining, probably.

>>386337087
Like Sonic CD's remake it'll probably have a couple of sprite hacks and that's it.

>>386337068
>They're alright, but anyone saying they're better than the Genesis games is being contrarian.
i would love a remake of bridge and jungle zones
they were original in their way
bridge would autoscroll as if the bridge itself was falling apart while in jungle you needed to climb up the waterfall using the logs

>>386337191
How does Sega normally handle publishing?

>>386337037
Marble Garden is a flyover zone and you know it.

>>386336689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHFN7EnXpFo

Fuck that entire zone with a rack desu

>>386331741
That happens to a lot of third games in a trilogy to spice things up. Look at Crash Warped

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>>386337087
Sonic CD's remake did so yes, it is possible. CD barely got any though, so we'll just have to wait & see if there are enough people interested in modding the hell out of it, also they probably have to figure out how it all works so it'll be a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7eYSjZUu5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vFlhzqqSqI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBwH68TBFRM (the background is gonna rape your eyes on that this one)

Personally I think they will since Mania has gathered a lot more attention while people didn't CD's remake nearly as much.

>>386337035
also the melancholic vibe of this song is very good
reminds me of the multiplayer stages of sonic 3

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>>386336689
>>386337312
>>386337037
All of the Sonic 3 music is bad.

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>>386335738
I fucking love the bacground and the end of act 2 where it's revealed the death egg is lodged in the roof.
shit just got real

>>386337406
aren't you late to school?

>>386337312
Act 1's music is fine but Act 2's is literally the same song but more cathartic and lazy. MJ is a hack.

What are the odds we'll ever see a fully realized Azure Lake stage?

>>386337501
if the game is moddable we could make the zone ourselves
all the multiplayer zones as actual zones with their original songs would be incredible

>>386336689
The S&K jingles for things like the 1-up and especially invincibility aren't too fantastic. I swear most people wouldn't have as much of an issue if Super/Hyper Sonic retained any other theme

>>386337501
A S3 competition zone getting a full zone would be a fantastic surprise, but I'd want Chrome Gadget instead.

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>>386337627
Sonic & Knuckles jingles were better than the Sonic 3 ones though.

>>386337627
i would like mania to have an option to toggle off the invincibility theme and speed up's change of pace

>>386337735
Sonic 3 Complete did this, so I wouldn't be surprised.

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>>386336818
You can shit on Carnival Night or Ice Cap all you want, but I'll fight you when it comes to Collection's Launch Base. That stuff surpasses the retarded GO spam and lack of harmony in the og version.

How would you guys feel if Mania included some Modern Sonic stages, such as City Escape, in a 2D format?

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Put her in Mania bitches.

>>386337891
I wouldn't mind it but this is a Genesis game celebration deal.

>>386337827
>Collection's Launch Base
post it

>>386337717
After listening to the title theme for hours I can't begin to tell you how much of a breath of fresh air Sonic 3 Complete was for me

YES! > Sonic 1/2 1-up > Sonic 3 1-up > Sonic & Dante 1-up

>>386337891
It's seriously not likely at all. Like Generations, they would've shown any by now and nobody's asking for them

>>386337735
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

N

O

NO

>>386337891
>City Escape
too realistic to fit into classic sonic's world
sonic should mix sci-fi and lush nature into something surreal
sonic running in real world's san francisco makes no sense

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>>386337827
I'll agree Launch Base is one isn't shit unlike the other 2 zones (besides the intro part of it, S&K Collection's intros to their songs are the worst parts) but it can't beat the GO!s dude. The Competition Menu music is pretty fucking dope though I gotta say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH9UsHPfl0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xbOeAaRO8I

>>386337929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAuXgB_QVbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qvg9eMMCjk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00FXdX-mr6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPTrhA_IBcE

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>>386337891
I wouldn't mind if Mania got a sequel that strayed away from bringing back the classic stages and instead revised modern stages in the classic world. Along with it could come modern Sonic characters brought into the classic world like Blaze and Shadow. Making them replace Tails and Knuckles would be a bit risky, so they could just be an optional choice along with tails and Knuckles. And then they could add a character select for variable character combos like what some anon wanted. That would be their way of bringing back another modern Sonic game element.

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>>386338065
>Sonic Advance 3 was the only game to ever implement a partner system
>It was shit because it changed up the movesets too much and nerfed some characters when they had specific partners

>>386336298
They are very capable games for their software. Most of them switch speed for precision platforming and they have good visuals and music.

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>people unironically shitting on "GO GO GO GOGO"

how do you guys feel about sonic interacting with humans besides eggman?
should sonic slip into the real world or not?

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>>386338245
Hey... galo sengen

>>386338276
Unleashed was the best "Sonic interacting with humans" scenario the series has done so far. Mostly because the humans in that game were cartoony and Pixar looking enough that them standing next to Sonic didn't look weird.

>>386338276
Unleashed was the only game to handle that good. Anime and "realistic" humans haven't been handled well at all. I think Eggman should have a hot wife

>>386338276
>>386338356
>>386338362
I think Adventure 1 did alright because everyone was cartoony as fuck but there's no doubt Unleashed did it best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPBzBBY3AUQ

>>386338471
Boxy looking anime people at least did the part kinda well. Though the CGI cutscenes with the terrible looking realistic people were nightmare fuel.

>>386338245
It's not shit, it just isn't appropriate for a final stage if we speak about S3 alone, or even as midpoint for S3&K.

>>386338276
I'm not a fan of it at all & wish it would fuck off, I can't pin point why but it's always bugged me, even in Unleashed when it was handled the best there.

>>386338471
They weren't really cartoony, mostly everyone were polygonal anime characters. Nobody got in the way of anything and the focus was firmly on the Sonic characters. Adventure 2 lost some of that

>>386338514
They mostly did that in Adventure 2, Adventure 1's CG rarely focused on humans

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>>386338484
>mfw new cybershell vid in a comfy sonic thread

>>386338610
>They mostly did that in Adventure 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhlOoUAZw0M
to me this was more retarded than sonic kissing in 06

>>386338484
Cybershell, it's time to admit the barrel in Carnival Zone was bad game design.

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>>386338484
>Most Obscure Sonic Game?

>>386338736
Realistically I agree it's just as bad... but if you asked my preteen self, you'd hear just how cooler that made Sonic. It requires some heavy suspension of disbelief.

>>386338736
Sonic Adventure 2 really shouldn't have acknowledged Tails' story in Adventure. I like believing it was a fever dream fanfiction that didn't actually happen and Tails was bullshitting it

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Found this quote in a GamesRader article.

"Either you'll gain enough speed to catch the UFO, or you'll run out of time and get kicked from the Special Stage, free to retry it by simply hopping in for another go."

Not really sure what to think if that's true.

>>386338885
>It requires some heavy suspension of disbelief.
wtf was going on in sega for them to think this was a good choice?
lol

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>>386338736
Why was the president just riding around in his limo with the roof open while blasting a serious, life-threatening conference call so loud that could be heard from outside?

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WHERE'S THE CHAO GARDEN

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>386339206
ciao chao
they don't belong in a classic game

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>>386339010
I don't mind it since you inevitably end up getting all the emeralds if you try anyway, but I like Sonic Time Twisted's method more, which is where you can use an extra life to try again, or you can choose to just exit the stage.

whats a good controller for the Switch to play mania? Obviously the joycon D-pad is a joke. I've heard the pro controller has problems with the D-pad but I haven't tried it myself. Thinking of getting one of those 8bitdo nes controllers.

Thoughts?

>>386339279
casual underage faggots that want everything handled to them would complain on the internet

>>386339010

They probably gave the devs a retard proof version, you know how these things usually pan out if you make the game any more difficult then press A to win

>>386338484
I at least haven't heard of a couple games in this list. RIP that Sega World theme park in Australia though. Looked pretty sick.

>>386339168
he was hoping for an anthro blue hedgehog that runs at the speed of sound to hop in so he left it open
god heard his prayers

>>386338065
If Mania gets a sequel, I want it to be all original stages.

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>>386334531
I will be severely fucking disappointed if it's not in Mania.
>yfw it gets in an the boss is Big Arm

>>386339010
Sounds like it's going the Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy route with being able to constantly do bonus stages over and over again even if you fail.

>>386339518
Big arm boss should come back at least

Stardust Speedway is seriously lacking in hues. Act 2 better bring the hues or I'm gonna be pissed.

>>386339537
OP here, here's the full article if you're curious.

http://www.gamesradar.com/sonic-mania-makes-a-clear-distinction-between-special-and-bonus-stages-ones-fun-the-other-is-far-from-it/

>>386338484
Which of the more unknown Sonic games are worth playing? I was going to do the Master system versions of 1 and 2 and then do Tails' Adventure, but I've never heard of Triple Trouble or Chaos before, also is there an easy way to play that Neo Geo pocket game, it looks neat.

>>386339601
Have you seen the cheeky tweet that Tee posted where he's opening a little box that starts making HUEHUEHUE noises? Act 2 will very likely go full old style Stardust Speedway JP.

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>>386339619
>there are people who have trouble with Blue Spheres

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>>386339661
>Stardust Speedway US will get literally no representation

>>386339619
Okay, so the writer of the article hates Blue Sphere and can't be neutral about it. Smooth.

>>386337827
NicoCW's archived Launch Base Classic remix takes both versions and IMO it's the best version of Launch Base.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLwBrQPxAL8

>>386339647
Pocket Adventure was the first Dimps Sonic game

>>386339661
That seems backwards

>>386339708
I always fuck up blue spheres, and the half pipe. I'm fucking horrid at every Sonic Special stage outside of UFO, which is why I'm super glad that Mania is making an improved version of the UFO stages.

I fucking sweat blue sphere stages get super cunty and place blue balls in super hard to hit spots.

>>386339619
>http://www.gamesradar.com/sonic-mania-makes-a-clear-distinction-between-special-and-bonus-stages-ones-fun-the-other-is-far-from-it/
>To make matters even more frustrating, orbs are positioned in ways that often turn the slightest screw-up or miscalculation into guaranteed death.
what a faggot

>>386339757
They're all JP soundtrack fans so probably not.

Thinking of dusting off my genisis and playing the originals. Parents bought them and they were awesome in the late 90s.

>>386339601
why do you want laughing Brazilians in Mania?

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>>386331408
Today I will remind them.

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>>386339783
>Remember Generations was the perfect DLC game that could be milked for all its worth and not everybody would mind

>Remember Sega just stopped and didn't give a fuck

>>386339757
Stardust Speedway JPN > Stardust Speedway US

>>386339783
that sounds awful

>>386339647
You can play Pocket Adventure through Mednafen. It's basically a Sonic 2 arrange/remix with songs taken from Sonic 2/3.

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>>386339951
And you're just a faggot is what you are.

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>>386339619
This just makes me want Sonic Mania to be the next "Crash is Dark Souls" kind of thing.

>>386339860
Playing them through an actual console on a CRT is the true patrician experience.

>>386340027
Blue Spheres more like Blue Souls

>>386340027
Crash 1 was fairly hard though, Sonic 2 and up have never really been difficult, and 1 is only a little hard.

>>386339708
I normally don't but using touch controls via emulator they're nightmare inducing.

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>>386339926
Stardust Speedway rankings:

JP BF > JP PR > US GF > Past > JP GF > US PR > US BF

All of the tracks are good though.

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>>386339708
>tfw you unironically find the half-pipes in Sonic 2 easier
Maybe it's because I've played that game to death compared to 3&K but I replayed Sonic 3 Complete recently and fucked up 5 whole special stages and didn't get all the Emeralds until Carnival Night.
Blue Spheres and the UFOs are the only special stages that make be feel tense while playing them.

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>>386340027
My god, there likely WILL be articles saying how "impossibly hard" blue spheres are, and that asking a general audience to complete all of them is masochistic. I'm going to drink all these casual tears.

>>386340594
ARGH IT'S TOO HARD

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>>386340594

>>386340295
so what sonic was never good, call the cops if you disagree btw my least favorite level was green hill from sonic 2

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>>386340594
>>386340665
I have a problem with my eyes where one begins to move uncontrollably when strained slightly or trying too hard to focus. Blue sphere is physically draining for me just because of all the colors and motion bothers my eye so much.

>>386340594
>>386340665
AAAAA I'M A LITTLE BITCH AND I'M HAVING MUH MOTION SICKNESS EPISODES AGAIN UUUUUUUUUUHHHH I'M PUKING EVERYWHERE FUCKING DELETE THIS NOOOOOOOW

wait, is blue spheres something some people actually have a problem with? are these the same people who cry about how Sonic was never good?

>>386340594
woppo

>>386340295
>trying to beat the 7th blue sphere stage
>those 3 blue balls that are between bumpers

Fuck this shit, I'm 2 casul.

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So, if each act 2 radically changes dynamic like in 3&K, and if the Act 1 of Classic Stage fuse the two acts (in the case of GHZ/CPZ) to give them the length of a normal 3&K Act, how are they gonna do Flying Battery Act 2?

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>>386340962
>Act 1 of Classic Stage fuse the two acts
They're more than just that, end this fucking meme.

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>>386340962
I want to say Act.1 will mostly just take set pieces/the most familiar level design from both Acts 1 & 2 from the original & mash them together to make Act.2 be as original as they can make it. Even if that's not the case they could still go beyond what would normally be Act.2 in Flying Battery like they did in Green Hill Act.2.

im not i want it to hit me hard and make me earn my gratification

>>386340962
it crashes into another level and fuses the Flyig Battery aesthetic with appropriate gimmicks.

>>386340962
>>386341189
Green Hill is the tamest remix in the game.

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>>386340962
>>386341189

>>386340256
I'm opposite you. I think Blue Spheres is a breeze but Halfpipe is difficult as all hell.

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I really want Toxic Caves to get re-imagined in Mania.

>Minecart gimmicks
>Pinball gimmicks
>Enemies/hazards borrowed from Mystic Caves
>Boss Fight being a combination of Sonic CDs Collision Chaos and Showdown

>>386339310
the 8bitdo controllers have serious d-pad problems, although for a platformer it might be fine because the issue is with how diagonals are triggered.

>>386341254
Flying Battery and Knuckles and Knuckles and Knuckles and Knuckles and Knuckles and Knuckles and Knuckles and Knuckles and Knuckles

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>>386341251
I know, but they're still using familiar level design in at least Act.1's in later stages as you can see here >>386341254

>>386341254
Bonus Mirage Saloon.

>>386340962
A whole fleet of Flying Batteries.

>>386340962
Act 1 is the classic act with a bit more content loaded into it, and Act 2 is a scenery change with a gimmick new to that level. The ziplines in GHZ 2 aren't in Act 1, for example. That and the music changes, too.

>>386340665
SPOILER THAT SHIT NIGGA

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>>386338484

>Avoiding music spoilers since Hard Boiled Heavies hit
>Cybershell uses the new SS song for the entire background of this video

T-Thanks.

>>386341314
Lava Powerhouse is better IMO

Who'/s ready for the Sonic 4 snow park stage to be the snow level we haven't seen yet?

>>386341445
You're right, but the problem is casuals will have no nostalgia for that level as the average player never got past Toxic Caves.

Plus dat music.

>>386341418
It's pretty sexy ain't it

>>386341457
A redone White Park would be lovely, but I'm gonna stand by the Japanese garden zone being the hybrid ice zone cause of Sonic in the ice cube.

>>386340962
Flying Battery gets hijacked by the Battle Kukku Empire, and you have to make it through the carnage and destruction as the ship falls apart and the Kukkus fight against Robotnik's badniks

>>386341457
I actually do wonder if Taxman & cie will actually double dip or will just reimagine levels from old spin-off games like Chaotix as the remaining classic stages

>>386333089
>chao garden
Why would anyone want that austism simulator back? It's not like implmenting it in a new game would be any more 'fun' than the version you already 'enjoy'. I just don't get it.

>>386341526
No one except mad people got past The Machine anyway.

So I want to offer this as a gift to a friend of mine (PS4 version). There are two problems however. 1. I don't have a PSN account and 2. He lives in a different region (South America). What's the best way to buy it for him?

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>>386331408
>replaying through 3&KC
>got 7 chaos emeralds
>game says I can visit the hidden palace zone, went there in my last play through
>hitting special stage rings just nets me 50 rings now
>cannot go super sonic

Will I still get to play the Doomsday? I've honestly never legit tried to get the emeralds before, and this is odd.

>>386341853
I beat The Machine as a kid, I don't remember it being that hard.

>>386341889
yes

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does Rouge the Bat know she has big boobs and has there been a moment in any Sonic game where she plays with them, talks about there size, or something like that?

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>>386341889
You can only access Super Emerald Special Stages from Mushroom Hill onward. They have to be glowing

Having all the Chaos Emeralds guarantees Doomsday

>>386342013
Go ask this in /sthg/

>>386341889
Yeah you'll get to play Doomsday. You only need the original emeralds to get to it, even if you put the emeralds in Hidden Palace and don't finish up the super emerald stages.

>>386342013
>>>/sthg/

>>386341457
The level trope was alright. What a shame the level design of the 3rd act was.

>>386342172
The 3rd act wasn't even a carnival, just icy underwater depression.

>>386341853
The Machine was crazy easy and in most cases you had to try to die.

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>>386337408
niigga what? You can see the death egg all the zone long on the top.
I actually think the parallax level that sits on get swapped closer to you the more you advance, but not too sure

>>386337437
Nigga it's sunday

>>386342172
3 Acts were a mistake

>Acts 1 and 2 are some of the only redeemable aspects of the entirety of both Episodes
>Act 3 was garbage
>Yet the Metal Sonic boss fight takes place on roller coaster rails
>So a transition between Act 2 to the Boss Act would've actually been dope

It's amazing how little changes would make Sonic 4 more fun

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What is the best 3D sonic game?

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>>386342370
How did I never notice that in act 1

>>386342478
All Stars Racing Transformed

>>386331408
Will it have multiplayer like Sonic 2 did?

>>386339279

Maybe they use that and it wasn't noticed?

>>386342040
>>386341960
>>386342086
Thanks, also Hydrocity Zone is kinda cunty. I just got that stuck in a wall glitch some other anon got at the spike placement seems cunty. There's also a hidden spring that throws you right into an enemy if you spin dash on it. I mean the whole "right into an enemy/spike pit" thing is more forgivable in Sonic, but it's annoying.

>>386340753
>green hill from sonic 2
kek

>>386342660
Hydrocity is barely what I'd call cunty.

>>386342478
Sonic R

>>386342639
Mania's going to have co-op. No clue about competitive. I doubt they'd forget that considering even Sonic 4 had it.

>>386335859
That's Sonic3C bugs. I've had it happen multiple times with that rom.

>>386342478
u posted a screenshot of it

>>386342703
ign reference mate

Sonic 06 honestly isnt nearly as bad as people make it out to be

Its more like a 5-6/10

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>>386342639
>>386342789

>>386343223
Yes, it is. It's a poorly optimized and rushed hack job of a game that doesn't deserve any sympathy aside from maybe sympathy for the developer's mental health.
At least the music was good most of the time.

>>386343223
Sonic 06's shit quality has looped from being an irredeemably terrible game into a meme people play to try and break it as hard as possible

Contrast to something competent, but terrible to do full replays of like Shadow or Unleashed. But that doesn't make it genuinely good at all

>>386343396
Mania better have ONLINE co-op/competitive, maybe even with matchmaking like Sonic 4 had.

>>386342478
Utopia

>>386342478
Did the slope update come out yet?

>>386343396
Someone update this with the comments Taxman made regarding how the special stages are rendered.

//forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=35709&view=findpost&p=901566

>>386343223
5-6 would imply "just" a mediocre game, Sonic 06 isn't even functional 75% of the time.

>>386343223
No it isn't, it deserves everything it gets

The story is terrible, it is buggy, the gameplay is boring and poorly thought out, it is grindy, most of the equip items for Sonic are broken, you fall out of bounds or just die in scripted sections often, silver is boring as fuck to play even moreso than the others, the bosses range from trivial to cheap, it ruined the backstory of certain already existing characters, the 'secondary' characters were basically walking gimmicks and not fun to play (why the fuck does tails have a ring bomb?' and the 'finale' was incredibly tedious and frustrating, one of the worst parts of the game.

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>>386343594
The image is big enough as it is damn it. Also Stealth on the 3D models:

//forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=35709&view=findpost&p=901545

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>>386343548
Not yet, the latest version is 2.1.19. Slope will be featured in 2.2. Waiting feels like forever.

>>386343548
Slopes are available for use in custom levels, but the built-in levels won't have them until 2.2.

>>386343594
>3D rendered through the Retro Engine itself like Mode 7
So that's why you barely even need a graphics card to play the game properly. It's all software.

How many obscure sonic games do you know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPBzBBY3AUQ

>>386343909
Fuck off cybershill
No one likes your videos unironically

>>386336202
By the fact that you're asking this. You probably are one of those retarda who always updates. In short, you are fucked

>>386342660
>went through the same section another time
>got stuck in the wall so bad I had to reset

Welp.

>>386342742
It's minorly cunty, then again a lot of the stages in this game are. Just the spike placement can be a pain, and enemies that float around and cycle between spikes and no spiked have a tendency to just pop up at the worst times.

>>386344050
Dude just stay on the top path of Hydrocity and you're good to go man.

>>386343909
Video's already posted in here and I know most of them except like the Sonic Brain Championship game or whatever it's called. I wanna see Cybershell do some kind of Sonic trivia challange and win first place.

>>386344008
>Implying he needs to shill when he has a fanbase from years ago

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>>386343396
A lot of the talk is about Taxman and Stealth, but do Picomy and Slingerland in particular have credentials as LDers? I know the latter did Sonic Nexus on Taxman's engine but it seems more of a proof of concept rather than a full fledged game.

>>386334269
Do it. I'm buying it on at least two different platforms (PS4 and Switch, possibly Xbox too) to do just that.

>>386344197
I fully trust Slingerland considering how God tier Chemical Plant act 2 looks.

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>>386344050
>tfw playing real version of s3&k and not some shitty romhack
>>386344148
>implying thats not a cybershell

>>386331948
So you would have preferred if Mario were totally naked except for a red pair of running shoes?

>>386344384
You don't?

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>>386333548
8-bit Scrap Brain Zone has a god-tier track that deserves to come back in some way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNKvTdv0cH0&t=130s

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>>386343396
What do all the gold medallions get you /v/?
>mfw it's a 16-bit sound track and/or the Chaotix

>>386337037
I personally REALLY don't enjoy Marble Garden's physics fuckery. It feels unfinished.

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>>386344383
>tfw you have to play S3C complete because Sonic's sprites are shitty and Super Sonic doesn't use his old theme and instead just uses the invincibly theme

>>386344628
Fuckery? Do you mean the pulleys or the spinning tops?

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>>386344580
>playable vector
Don't joke, nigga. I need that shit like crack.

>>386344718
S3C making the Super Sonic theme just the zone theme sped up is what makes it worth playing over base 3&K.

>>386344718
>Sonic 3 sprites
>shitty
>liking suicide-tier super sonic theme from 2
Good to know that you're some tasteless retard

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>>386344817
Vector best boy

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I was considering buy a PS4 copy fro a friend mine. A few months he bought me a new copy of Xenoverse 2 so we could play online together. Would I appear cheap if I got him a digital $20 game?

>>386344954
Does he even have a fondness for Mega Drive Sonic?

>>386344954
It's the thought that counts, not the dollar value anon

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>>386344954
he gave you $60 worth of shit while you're giving him $20 of pure gold.

he owes you desu.

also. just get him another game later down the line.

>>386345039
I don't think hes ever played them before. I just thought he'd think it was fun.

>>386345217
No harm in giving it to him then.

>>386344141
I am sleepy and drinking so that's probably 90% of the problem. That through the wall glitch is pretty lame though, but everything else is very easy to circumvent with some semi-smart playing.

>>386344905
I fucking love the Sonic 3 sprite, unsure why so many people prefer the sprite from 1 or 2 when it just looks SO much more ridged and flat in comparison.

Also yeah, playing 3&KC because it has the easy option of using Tails to fly as Sonic, and because it just has a stupid amount of options in general. Unsure why anyone would even shit on it honestly.

>>386344779
Spinning Tops and steep hills.
The pulleys were alright.

>>386338160
That's not really a problem. They just gave you many options of skills and you're 100% free to pick preferred one.
I always played as Knuckles partnered with Tails for the best maneuverability and double jump. That double jump was pretty spammable in final boss.

>>386345318
The spinning tops can be a bit finicky, sure.

>>386345390
I always thought the beginning super high jump you got with Sonic+Tails broke the game half the time.

>>386331835
On PS4 theres a countdown. It unlocks at midnight EST on the night of August 14th.

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>>386344905
>Thinking fat awkward Sonic is good
>Implying the invincibility themes in Sonic 3&K aren't repetitive garbage
I'd take Sonic 4's invincibility theme over five seconds of shit played over and over again.

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>>386344914
>level opens up, no sounds playing
>vector standing there, quickly fiddling with his casette player
>shunk, close, click
>music starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIWyZmFSep0

>>386345534
From that, it looks like PS4 players are getting Mania first compared to everyone else.

>>386345623
Okay, that's a very cool idea.

>>386345602
Now I know how the fuck Eggman is always losing
This shit taste level is insane

>>386342660
Are you playing Sonic3C?

>>386345602
I mean... sure, if you like the sound of screeching cats on chalkboard.

It's okay if you dislike S3K's theme, but you're not making a good case for yourself, here.

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>tfw playing Sonic 3 Complete with the Sonic 1 sprites and Sonic 1/2 item box designs
Now this is blast processing

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>>386345861
Sonic 3 sprites fit better with the art direction.
They're also better.

>>386345460
Yeah that was pretty overpowered too but I wanted to use something other than Sonic & Tails, because you know we always see Sonic&Tails teamed up and that's boring.
The pairing up anyone-system was good idea imo it'll be nice to see it returns in future games with option to play solo as well.

>>386345740
ye.

>>386346209
That's why you're falling through walls. I've died so many times through walls in S3C. Launch Base, Hydrocity, Lava Reef...

Never on my Genesis.

>>386345726
I'll rightfully admit that my reasons for disliking 3&K are completely petty and retarded, but I just don't fucking like Sonic 3's sprite at all. And the invincibility music makes me want to pull my fucking hair out, which is why I'm glad I can remove all the dumb shit I don't like in 3&K and enjoy the things I do like about 3&K like the god-tier music it does have.
>>386345849
It was incredibly lazy to not give Super Sonic his own theme in 3. I can tolerate the music normally, when it's like 30 seconds long, but when it's played for over an hour it's just fucking grading. And again, it doesn't help that it's just a tiny ass loop. Sonic 2's super theme is nowhere near as repetitive.

>>386346318
I think it might be an emulator issue in general, I remember falling through walls with the normal ROM, and I haven't played the game on native hardware in forever.

>>386346060
Oh come on anon there's no need to lie.

>>386346318
One thing I've noticed with emulating 3&K is that in levels with water, mostly during Carnival Night Act 2, that water glitches out the game sometimes for split seconds where the whole screen is water and the music fucks up slightly as well.

I've never emulated the Taxman ports.

What's the best Android emulator?

>>386346874
Bluestacks seems to be the go-to, but I know barely anything else about Android emulation.

>>386346874
Not sure what is the best, but its defiantly not Bluestacks.

>>386346874
>I've never emulated the Taxman ports.
>What's the best Android emulator?

It'd be best to just get them to release proper ports.

I want them to do S3&K, and then release all the Taxman versions in a single bundle.

>>386346874
Play them on an android console like the Ouya.

>>386347060
>Ouya
THANKS FOR BELIEVING

>>386346874
Nox