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Go play it /v/.
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I really should. Love the heck out of the online/universe series, so its sort of appalling that I've never gotten around to playing the originals.
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But I did.

It's pretty good.
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>>386298525
This.

It will endlessly rustle my jimmies that Sega will never bother with turn based JRPGs anymore, when Phanta helped push and define the modern elements we have now.

Instead, we live in the timeline where Final Fantasy is huge with microtransactions in just about all their games, and Phantasy Star is known more for the experimental 3D Diablo game than the actual original set of games.
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>>386298764
lets be real here, they would probably fuck it up
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>>386298886
Modern Sega would, but they had a chance with the PS2 remakes, which showcased Sega still had some good staff and could rework the formula to modern standards.
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>>386298173
Almost done with PhantasyStar2, so you know what. I think I will.
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What's the best Phantasy Star to start with?
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>>386299470
IV because it's the only playable one.
You only need to play through the first 3 to understand the references, sort of like Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest.
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>>386299328
Review it for me because I can't beat the first dungeon.
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>>386299842
The dungeons get worse.
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>Loved the game when I was a kid, but never beat it
>Thought I was near the end of the game
>Go back and replay it
>There's a second planet
>I had barely started

Never even connected the dots, since I had played Phantasy Star Collection and knew that the series took place on multiple planets, but Motavia in PSIV felt too big on its own for Dezolis to be explorable.
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>>386299470
Phantasy Star I is still pretty charming, since it's an old-school dungeon crawler with its own kind of flavor, and a semi-open nature that lets you explore three different planets from the start. PSII is a good game, but the early-game grind is fucking ridiculous. PSIII is just bad. PSIV holds up surprisingly well.

The stories are largely unconnected, but they take place in the same star system with the same over-arching villain, and the events of earlier games tend to make up the backstory of the events in later ones.
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>>386299842
Nei dies
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I loved it. I liked Wren's character design in 3 more, but 4 was great. Wish Alys could have been around for longer. I wasn't a huge can of Chaz
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>>386298173
I played this back in the day. Where is 5 Sega?
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>>386298173
It's in my backlog. I've tried to play twice but always drop it for something else.
At this rate, I'll never experience it
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>>386301104
I wouldn't be surprised if V actually started development in the next year or so.

It seems that SEGA really want to bring back some older IPs.
But it would most likely be something based on the Online games, perhaps with a heavy single player focus.
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>>386298173
Naw.
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>>386299064
M8... m8. Those remakes were woeful.
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>>386298173
>Will never get a Remaster of any of the old Phantasy Star Games

Sadness.
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>>386299470
Unless you're a serious RPG oldfag definately 4. But 1 if you're a bad enough dude.
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>>386299842
Fufufu
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>>386302315
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>>386302476
>Have to go though this motherfucker TWICE
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>>386302476
PS2 sort of needed the dungeons themselves to be the main challenge, though. There were only 3 real bosses in the game, with 2 of them at the very end.
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>>386302490
Alright, fine, but US will never get that, nor will we ever get a remaster of 4.
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>>386302476
Wait, are the numbers teleport pads...
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>>386302728
No. It's a pitfall dungeon.
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>>386298173
Isn't this the series where a character fucking explodes
I might be remembering this wrong
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>>386302728
They are holes. Each one is a one way ticket down. The stairs are the only way back up.
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I can't. Sega decided to kill off the franchise in the west leaving us with the autistic hedgehog.
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I did like two decades ago, it was overrated. I paid $80 for it, though, which is like $100 nowadays money. The problem with this series is that they really didn't care to design overworlds/labyrinths. The first game and the online ones were the only ones that got it right. Also, USA got screwed and got shitty music whereas Japan got good music. Exploration should be a big thing in RPGs.
PS1 > PS4 > PS3 > PS2
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>>386298764
>Sega will never bother with turn based JRPGs anymore
Uhhh...Hello?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/571530/Superdimension_Neptune_VS_Sega_Hard_Girls__VS___VS_SEGA/
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Been in Japan for a good 8 years now, and I'm thinking I should buy the actual games. (They're like 800yen each)
Should I start from the beginning and play through them or should I skip any in the series?
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>>386304839
I was under the impression that those were handed out to Compile Hearts and Idea Factory, with Sega just licensing it out.

The fan service and excessive cursing since "MUH MODERN ANIME" killed any enjoyment I had with the first in that series, as well as the very forgettable combat.
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>>386304839
That is not a Sega game, you nep tard.
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>>386305063
ALSO, should I buy the remasters instead? Are they like way better or?
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>>386305123
u mad bro? XD
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>>386305340
No, but are you 12?
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>>386299607
I'd argue 1 is pretty playable. I mean it doesn't hold your hand and you do have to grind whenever you get a new party member, but its no worse than dragon quest 1 and 2.
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Play the hellmode romhack
Ps4 > pso > ps2

Being a kid and my name being Alyssa playing ps4 was slightly disturbing

Rune still best husbando after all these years.
Kind of set my archetype for all men.
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I remember deciding to level everyone to 99 in PS4... Rika hit lvl 99 then i discovered the horrifying level 99 glitch. Was a very, very sad day for 12 year old me.

Still loved the game to shit but... damn that sucked
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>>386305063
If they come with the box and manual, sure.
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>>386305554
What is hellmode romhack and what makes it good?
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>>386305082
>The fan service
This isn't really fan service though. It only makes sense that after fighting monsters and exploring dirty dungeons for hours, you would want to get all the gunk and dirt on your body off of it when you find a period of calm when nothing's trying to kill you. It's really very sensible and practical
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>>386304756
I remember it being $99.99 when it was released. I'm surprised it wasn't cheaper than $80
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it's on my list

currently playing Lufia 1 however
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>>386305993
Wasn't the price because of the cart itself?
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>>386305993
There was a Toy-R-Us promotion where if you buy a Sega and a game they give you $20 gift card
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>>386306229
Oh yeah, cartridge games were expensive as fuck, even more than games now. I remember getting Shining Force II instead for $75
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>>386305785
They do, yeah.

Should I play the remasters?

>>386305775
what glitch?
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>>386306762
The 'remaster' is a joke. It looks like a high schooler's project. It was a budget title when it was out. It exists, that's all it's good for.
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I need to buy a genesis and a CRT.
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>>386307009
DAMN DUDE.
Like they didn't improve on anything? Rugged.

Then, any tips for a first time player?
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>>386306762

When a character hits lvl 99 it randomly reassigns everyones stats to a different character and reassigns special skill usage amounts too

So Wren for instance ended up with Hans healer stats in my save. Rune ended up getting one of the robots stats and with zero casting stats was nuking for like 20dmg.
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Play through Phantasy Star 1 with me /v/.

We're trying to find a cat.
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Some one give me the Sega Collection for ps2. Should I bother playing the three Phantasy games included?
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>>386298173
Okay.
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>>386307369
Wow. Back in the days where companies couldn't just patch the game. That SUCKS dude.
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Are the games even good
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>>386306762
>Should I play the remasters?
NO. Absolutley not.
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>>386298173
4 is great, but it's kind of tainted by the Squarefags who only played 4.
Basically MGS3 syndrome.
>>386307549
Thank you Aris, but our cat is on another planet.
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>>386307549
Give me the cat.
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>>386307784
1 is charming.
2 is fairly progressive for the genre at the time but has dungeons made by a giraffe.
3 is
4 is on par with FFVI and Chrono Trigger and all that.
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>>386305993
Thank Sega of America for this
http://www.gaijinworks.com/interact/showthread.php?56-WD-Trivia-Storytime-Thread&p=97178&viewfull=1#post97178
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>>386307784
1 is the greatest RPG of the 80's, one of the few early Japanese ones to top the wonder and exploration in the original western PC titles, and both a technical and artistic masterpiece.
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>>386308463
If it had FF1's combat it would be.
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>>386308813
>starting this argument
Run away, fag, you'll have 100% chance thanks to retarded programmers.
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>>386308463
2 came in 89.
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>>386308113
>ut has dungeons made by a giraffe.
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>>386309209
Was it really 89? PSII is leagues above everything else then given the time.
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>>386309209
So what? Phantasy Star 1 (ONE) is the best RPG of the 80's. Sounds like you have no point to make!
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>>386309209
I don't want to talk shit about 2, so I'll cop out and say I'm going by Western release dates.
I mean, it's 16 bits, that's like, double the bits.
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>>386309619
Pretty much. Not only this but other Mega drive games too. Revenge of Shinobi, Thunder Force 2, Golden Axe... Shit was crazy back then.
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Best way to play it?
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>>386310752
Maybe the Wii's virtual console?
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Can I play IV without playing the others? I really don't want to play through the other three cause I don't have the patience for much grinding, but I really want to try IV
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>>386298173
This was definitely the Phantasy Star that modern PS borrowed from the most.

Dark Falz/Dark Force was always a thing
But this introduced guilds and quest counters
Shitloads of side stories
It made CAST's a big deal (there were only a few who came and went in PS3)
It brought back Newmans with a vengeance and established Rika as the Eve of all Newmans. (Nei was rad but doesn't count cause she croaked with Neifirst)

Too bad if you check perfect works, Chaz died like a bitch and left her as a single mom only 3 years later. No troll.
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>>386309679
I prefer 1 too, lol
2 is worth noting since you came with technical aspect and it's one the first 16 bit rpg

>>386310752
Knowing japanese and playing the saturn version
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>>386310752
Not a lot of options really.
If you can't into crts, then you should just emulate. Sonic's UGC is better emulated than the Steam version, IIRC.
>>386311130
Why do you want to try IV then?
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>>386311130
There really isn't a lot of grinding.
All the grinding is in any of these games is maybe 20 minutes at the very start.
From those little level boosts, you get the momentum.
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>>386311130
You can play it without the others. You don't need knowledge of the other three but it has a little more nostalgia value cause it throws back to the other 3 games at multiple points. It was truly the game to end the 4 game series.

I'd suggest reading some minor spoilers on the other games before playing 4 standalone for slightly more enjoyment. If you're trully commited to playing 4 only I could post a few in black from other games that would probably enhance 4 for you.
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>>386311330
Fuck you, 1 and 2 are grind city. You lying piece of shit.

"Not much grind"

Jfc
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>>386307324
Snap on a game genie and put on money cheat.
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>>386311221
Anytime Phantasy Star is brought up I see the same things said: I-III are good for their time but require a shitload of grinding, and PSIV is one of the greatest classic JRPGs that somehow has basically been forgotten about.
>>386311330
20 minutes I can definitely handle. Might as well try them then I guess.
>>386311468
Thanks but naa, I think I'll try the earlier ones after all if it'll make me appreciate IV more
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>>386311572
I've been playing 1 right now for the past hour and I only had to grind for a sword at the start.

I'm going to define "grinding" here as, "Needing to battle more than the natural path".
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there's an antigrind mod for PS2 to make the pacing more like PS4, it's great

also play the PS2 text adventures for character backstories when you run into them in the game
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>>386311667
You made the right choice. The payoff in IV if you've played 1 and 2 is huge, just like playing 2 after 1.
Don't understate how cool and moving the story in these games can be.
Also IV is only held up like that because it's the most FF-like, which is like saying new DOOM is the best because it's most like CoD.
>>386311785
The start of PS1 is infamous, the rest is nbd unless you use a guide and underlevel, or want to buy every item.
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>>386312285
Are we talking Dragon Quest III levels of payoff?
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>>386311667
3 is very unique for a game from its time, but the music is so ridiculously bad that many people stop playing.

Here, have a taste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI430piVW1c

The menus and statuses are also absolute dick and the games clanky.

On the bright side, its like fire emblem genetics simulator WHO U GONNA FUGG???

Except it goes more than 2 generations so things get pretty wacky if you've been getting your bone on!
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Opinions on Phantasy Star Online? I played it a little bit on my cousin's Gamecube when I was little, have always wanted another crack at it since
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>>386312573
I thought it was kinda cool at first, expecting it to eventually transition into something else. Christ that would get infuriating.
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>>386308383
>http://www.gaijinworks.com/interact/showthread.php?56-WD-Trivia-Storytime-Thread&p=97178&viewfull=1#post97178
Is that legit what happened? Is the poster bullshitting?
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>>386312893
Its just fine even if a bit disjointed. Episode 2 really helped it feel a lot more gathered in story.

Blue Burst in the PC is Episode 4. I had a lot of fun with it. There's free servers to play on these days and they feel just like ye olden days and everyones pretty chillax.
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>>386312893
It's good if you're in that sort of mindset.
By mindset I mean, playing online with three other people in 2001, grinding for loot.

If you're expecting some sort of 9/10 story and Demon's Souls world building, it's not all there.
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>>386312949
It does once the command inputs are over with in-game.
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>>386312573
The best part of 3 was doing the Escapipe trick.
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>>386312949
It does. It doesn't really ever get good, though. The overworld music also adds an instrument for every person that joins your party. It has some decent tracks, especially the title music. But the sountrack isn't as good as the other games.
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>>386308383
But SoA dindu nuffin, he was a good boy! /v/ and /vr/ told me so!
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>>386312967
>>386308383
I just arrived to this convo but am a hardcore fan and have even spoken with many people who worked at Sega back then (Such as Tom Kalinske).

I can't confirm this specific incident but it sounds entirely true. Sega of America at this point was competing with Sega of Japan and a massive internal asshurt fest was rearing its head little by little. SoA was aggressive to push new tech and peripherals out at such a rate that it was nutbar, and they wouldn't be the only people to pull something like this when trying to move a gen ahead. For example, Star Fox 2 was like 95% done and got scrapped because it may have taken attention from Mario 64 over on Nintendo's side. There's many stories like this during the console wars of complete dickery.

Everything else the post says about the Saturn and DC launches is 100% true and I will confirm. That stuff is pretty much public knowledge at this point.

Sega fell from a combination of SoJ's hubris and refusal to work together, and SoA's hyper competitiveness and habit of burning cash while fucking its vendors in the ass (and assuming they'd forget it happened).
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>>386313527
If it's true then SEGA entirely deserved the downfall for their outstanding mismanagement. Still makes me sad though, a bunch of Sega IPs hold a dear place in my heart. I just hope they hold true to that public powerpoint slide thingy they released a couple months back, stating that they'd revive old IPs while moving forward to the year 2020.
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>>386298764
They made 7th Dragon. It was okay.
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>>386313527
Tell is more insider stuff Anon.
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>>386312893
The best console online RPG there ever was, but they never quite punished the exploiters and the game died as the result.
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>>386313931
>>386313931

Sega of America's highest people were actually very good eggs till around Saturn release. Those who replaced them and moved up were always the true scumbags. The company was even great to work for at the time.

Sega of Japan had tried various plans and kept cocking up, and was getting really irritated at the monumental success SoA had with the genesis and its tongue-in-cheek advertising (it really did work, its hard to believe but high schoolers didnt want to admit owning a nintendo in some locations of the US).

Once SoA reps began to sit in on SoJ board meetings and it was clear shareholders and others were listening to SoA more, absolute asshurt arrived. SoJ execs began to outright despise, argue with, and try to defame SoA employees. Tom Kalinske in my opinion was the mainmost reason SoA was succeeding, and they wanted his fucking blood. SoJ even knowingly assisted in urging SoA into doing too many projects and spending its cash via various obligations. But that doesn't mean one bit it wasn't still SoA's fault they did that shit, they were all for it.

Think about it.

You had Sega Genesis. Sega 32X. Sega CD. All coming out in a short window, with a bazillion periphs. You had Sega Saturn on the horizon, and by the time Sega Saturn released they were doing Sega Neptune and scrapping it to get the DC out.

They were already in very dire straights from the second Saturn launched. First off, Sony got lucky with Playstation. Sega got worried and tried to beat them by releasing Saturn way way way early. They figured hey, if we come out FIRST, what can go wrong?

Fucking everything.

You need to understand what major "toy" vendors were like in the 80's and 90's. CONT>
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>>386316670

Back in the 80's, Nintendo reps had to sell their fucking assholes in order to get Nins on the shelves.

Now Sega was dominating and everyone was counting and projecting their profit margins, but then this happens.

Sega says they're releasing Saturn insanely early, and only to certain toy stores.

The other toy stores immediately feel insanely burned and realised their holiday projections just fucking tanked because people will be buying Saturns a season earlier than christmas.

On top of that, the third party developers didn't have their games finished. It launched with something like 6-7 titles, with 30 others having teams pulling their hair out and pissing themselves. They were meant to have launch or near launch games, and instead would arrive late- harshly affecting their own sales. Sega managed to make everyone possibly involved feel brutally betrayed.

Then asked everyone later to take them "on faith" with the Dreamcast? Ho boy...
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>>386316670
>>386316857
Thanks for the infodump. I was not aware of some of the things said here.

I just hope SEGA learns their lesson and move on to make good games again. And for SoJ to stop being such an ass when it comes to localisation (shining etc.), though they have improved massively in recent years.
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>>386305860
It ups the difficulty astronomically.
Adds like 30 new combos to the game.
Adds elemental attributes to a lot of stuff.

Purgatory is even harder. Enemies are immune to insta death too.
https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=4216.0
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>>386312893
*intro theme crescendos*
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>>386316857
What is it with the Japanese and business revenge?
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>>386321653
Stereotypes don't come from a vacuum - this was an "honor" thing, because an American businessman was showing up the entire Japanese side of the company by doing things they couldn't, and it rustled their jimmies something fierce.

That's basically all there is to it.
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>>386319327
>one of the few games where instant death is viable until the end
>make it useless
But why?
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>>386322825
Because Insta death is for babies
Enemies can still insta death you
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>>386319327
I can agree with instant death effects getting changed. Making them useless seems like an overall bad idea, instead of changing them to have some other sort of mechanic or drawback to them.

According to that post, there's another version that makes enemies immune to status effects as well. That seems to be just stupid.
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>>386322669
Tom Kalinske has been mentioned in this thread several times now. The man was a fucking beast. Look up sometime about the shit he pulled. He single handedly led Sega from lagging behind to shitting all over Nintendo. But then Japan got pissy and restricted him more and more, and he ended up bolting. The second he was gone it all began to eat shit. You don't hear about the guy but he's legendary in some circles of business. He makes a vast amount of money now simply advising various other executives. They seriously just pay him to show up as an unhired civilian and sit in their meetings and watch, like some kind of god damned business mercenary. I think he has a permanent position now with some educational software company and is on the board of a drug company despite never working drugs in his life. They just have him permanently on the payroll to show up to meetings and sniff out rats.
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Is Phantasy Star Universe considered garbage in this series of games?
I played it with friends using the xbox 360 demo and we got a surprising amount of hours out of it, seemed to have a lot of players as well.
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>>386324131
Phantasy Star Universe to Phantasy Star Online as Diablo III 1.0 is to Diablo II.

Complete garbage to the point of having done permanent damage to the series. Even if some of the ideas it had could be seen as sound ones, it fails on implementation in every single case.
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>>386324523
But what did Universe actually do?
Was it the story?
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>>386324523
Yeah the gameplay wasnt too good, I like the community though, selling all those low quality nudes.
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>>386324523
Fucking liar

>>386324131
PSO, PSO2, and PSU are not coherently related and are each their own setting.

PSO is good but old.
PSU looked better than even PSO2 for some odd reason, and had an extremely long and epic plot and multiple episodes. Its gameplay was sometimes a little slow or clunky.
PSO2 Is literally Free MMO with cash shop emphasized. Its gameplay is the fastest and flashiest, its plot is barely less janky than PSO, and it has more fashion options than PSU.

I liked PSU the most out of the three, but PSO with Blue Burst attached comes close. I don't dislike PSO2, its okay. The only negative I can really express about PSO2 is now that Sega has been bitten by the cash shop bug and knows they can milk PSO2 forever we are not seeing a new big PS game till 2022+.
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>>386324646
Kinda yeah. The "main story" had you play a pre generated NPC for a full rpg.

The second half of the entire plot took your custom character and made him the hero, and the previous MC the rival/temporary badguy. You get the satisfaction of completely surpassing "the chosen one" of the plot and reaching the point that even he is a peon compared to you, which was really nice.
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>>386324876
But that sounds really cool.
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>>386324646
universe literally let you raise a daughteru who went on to become the badass bitch of psp sequels thats as cool as it gets
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>>386324876
>"the chosen one"

That fucking nigger when you play as him his ability costs are like paying pennies of PP for spamming his ultimate skills then you get on your first sole character and you can only do those moves like twice. But yes its nice to get better than him.
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>>386324920
I concur, seeing Lumiya grow up from 10 year old dressed like minnie mous to a senran kagura to being a badass battle sectretary was incredible
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>>386324776
I wanna fuck Lou!
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>>386311138
Elaborate on Chaz's fate
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>>386310752
The Mega Drive original is best, emulate if you haven't got the hardware. The Playstation 2 collection is an okay choice for all games except PS1 but you know...
>paying for emulation
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>>386325483
We weren't told anything beyond "he died on an average mission"

There's literally artwork in perfect works of an older, Sarah Conner-ish looking Rika in dusty robes and her half rika half chaz son lugging his dads big sword around. I could probably even find it.

Thats all we got told, the fucker eats it and she becomes a single mom.

Really echoes Wren's final words to her before she decided to change her mind and live on the planet with Chaz when she could've relaxed up in space with them forever. He said something like she'd need to be prepared for incredible hardships if its truly the fleeting life she wanted to choose.
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>>386312438
Actually, yes. But you only really need to play PS1 to completion to get the payoff. Much like how you need to play DQ1 but don't need to play DQ2 before playing DQ3 to get that feelin'.
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>>386298173

I do. Often.

Kyra is udnerrated waifu and very cute
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>>386326180
Oh you go back to Motavia?
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>>386326340
You're asking some dangerous spoilers anon and I don't think you will get quite the answer you expect.
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>>386326161
Well, it's not Tidus' beach blitzball explosion at least. Sucks for Rika and her kid.
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>>386298173
I tried playing it a decade ago but my hate for grinding led me to constant savescumming to avoid encounters, which ended with me facing unbeatable boss in one of the techno ruins due to lack of levels.
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>>386326449
Well, I'm on Motavia now in PS1.
Guess a few hours to go.
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>>386326323
Is it gay to fuck a female lutz?

Asking for a friend
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>>386326478
Yeah its disappointing but at least it can be swallowed.

I wish they'd find a way to truly tie some of the different PS's together, like how PSU/PSO/PSO2/Genesis PS are not all quite related.

The closest we've came was that Nintendo DS game that happens on earth or something I heard? I was told somewhere that it actually is in PSO's early timeline.
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>>386326180
>>386326340
>>386326449
Dangerous spoilers indeed. Perhaps I should append to my earlier statement about PS1 being the only one you need to play to get the full effect. Not to spoil much, much a few plot points and locations come up. Phantasy Star 2 does have a very major plot point halfway through that is quite relevant to PS4's backstory and it didn't occur to me that you might not know it. (Because I'm a dumb shit) Don't spoil yourself if you don't know anything about PS2.

PS3 (three) really isn't important, though. Even if you go full completionist you really don't need to play it before 4 for any payoff. It gets a 'so this happened' mention in a cutscene.
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>>386327123
Would you recommend Generations of Doom?
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>>386326821
>The closest we've came was that Nintendo DS game that happens on earth or something I heard?
It's not the same Earth as any other timeline. Minor spoilers: They call it Earth now but it turns out that their planet was once called Coral. Coral is the planet that the Pioneers from PSO are from. That puts PS Zero in the far future or far past of PSO. Future makes more sense to me but the title would imply otherwise. Whatever, it's a weak link. Everything else is alternate universes.
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>>386327301
For completionists and phans of Phantasy Star specifically, sure. It's not a bad game like PS Gaiden is. But there's a whole lot of better games out there. I'd recommend it only to someone who needs more classic Phantasy Star in their life and has already exhausted their other choices.
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>>386326683

No. It is not gay to fuck a cute female girl.

Hell regular Lutz was feminine enough to call that into question
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I remember buying phantasy star 2 on the 360 store after loving psu. Thought it was complete shit, thats my exposure to the originals
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>>386327847
>love PSU
>hate 2
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>>386327301
3 is a monster of a game, so just be prepared for that, it feels like it takes forever to get through. Seems to get lots of hate but I liked it, played it after 4 since it's not really integral to understanding 4.
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>>386327883
Yeah yeah ive seen this shit a million times. Some ancient history fag like you gets mad when someone prefers the newer thing
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>>386312285
To be fair 4 is probably the most popular because it doesn't take a 90° climb in difficulty as soon as you leave the first town like 2 does. You have to really fuck up or not pay attention at all to game over in 4.
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>>386320194
EVERY fucking time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Ufyp3F4tU
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>>386328878
Step up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOOV7WSKBhM
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>>386329012
heard it. played a lot of pso2. didn't like episode 4 at all. loved episode 3 though.

dont hate me plz. for what its worth the intro was pretty dope.
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>>386324776
Same played the crap out of psu on the 360 with friends. With that being said I think psp2 pretty much perfected psu's style of combat, would have been nice to have in the original. Psu had some great events too firebreak was the tits.
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>>386324131
I loved psu fucking fight me. It was super chill. I also had people to play with and was in high school so maybe thats influencing my opinion a bit
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>>386329491
PSU was an odd one for me. I came from PSO and thought it was a bit too different but over time I warmed up to it. I even recently replayed the story mode on ps2 and about as far as you can go w/ aoti offline. Chilling in Neudaiz with friends and shit was pretty cool too. Can't forget the music, either! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnIaDLdf_mQ
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>the only phantasy star I've played is universe

game was pretty based
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>>386329626
Getting to those far lobbies was a treat back before you could buy your way to them. Hanging out in places like the parum waterfall or Neudaiz hot spring were very chill.
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>>386328538

It's not a mater of preferring a newer things it's a matter of prefer a worse thing
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>>386329774
I've only played the Portable games.
They were fun.
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>>386329491
Tell us some PSU stories Anon.
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>>386329891
i'm not him, but i remember the 4th floor of the starting area was full of people selling nudes, easily one of the most odd/memorable experiences from when i first started gaming
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>>386329215
>played alot of pso2

Dont tell me you managed to get the english patch working, ill be pissed
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>>386330031
Uh? I mean I don't know how they do it now, but I used the english patch launcher that basically did everything for me automatically and it worked well. Perfect for literal diaper-shitting babies like me when it comes to this kinda stuff.
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>>386298173
already did. it was good.

western RPGs are dogshit so it's always good to play some JRPG classic instead.
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>>386330131
It's probably obvious but I should mention I haven't played it since early Episode 4.
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>Listening to PSU's OST

This is pretty good.
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>>386330131
last time i did it it worked for about a day and then every time i booted the game like half the files were missing, and the missing files were fucking different everytime, i reinstalled that game like 4 times before i said fuck it
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>>386329012
>Any time you're fighting one of the "big" bosses
>They reach 20% hp
>ARKS THEME KICKS INTO FULL BLAST

God I love it
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>>386330330
Damn. Sorry you had such a bad time. Wish I knew how to help with that. For what it's worth, PSO2 is still decent to me. I'm probably just very burnt out on it.
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>>386330260
>>386329626
Listening to these old soundtracks always makes me sad and nostalgic, was listening to maplestory soundtracks earlier for the nostalgia too.
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>>386298173
But blue burst is so much better, I mean holy shit was it great
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>>386330387
Dude i had alot of fun with it too, my buddy got me on to it after we had played like 2000 hours of PSO episode 2 on gamecube, in offline mode.
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>>386329012
This song is a fucking mess, what is it with modern anime inspired stuff and being so overdone? It's either a trillion belts and layers of clothing, music that can't stick with just one main tune for more than 10 seconds and power levels which remove all tension

It's like a fucking plague, no modern action anime is worth watching at all, and all the anime art style games are fucking embarrassing with the characters feeling more like robots every year. Go back to simple, simple works
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>>386331298
I'd say it's a pretty simple song. It's fun.

have this one instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKjs818GURo
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>>386331526
no
fuck you
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