Grimoire: Herlads of the Winged Exemplar

Played for five minutes, got three of my party members killed by ?WORMS?, quit and never touched it again
This is why neanderthals went exting

>>386295727
>25836

HOW DID YOU GET SO RICH ANON!?

you used the editor didn't you

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwWbO4WjDecjZllTS2dMSkpDbW8/view

>>386295940
Shit dude, you could at least put in a modicum of effort to find out WHY you died and learn from it.

>>386295940
Beginning party composition is very important. The wrong combo in the wrong order leads to death.

what are good things to have in party

>>386295940
>?WORMS?
you have to identify your enemies to know what you are fighting against. Otherwise any enemy will be only vaguely guessed with two question marks

http://www.strawpoll.me/13636474

>>386296060
Maybe if the UI wasn't absolute dogshit
>>386296127
I used the quickstart party, which I assumed was good since that stupid neanderthal made it

>>386296056
Selling shitty items and all dem keys son. Sold like a dozen keys at 1000 each.

Hello friends where might I procure this piece of software?

>>386296313
Check the archive, but cleve has figured out the ultimate drm, he will be releasing bugfixes every few days for months so the latest versions will be impossible to find after a while.

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Childhood is playing Gimoire. Adulthood is realizing sapeposting thal threads make more sense.

>>386296216
Best party is 2x Warrior in the top left and right slots. Then 4x Berserkers just below them. The bottom right slot should be a cleric.

Start in the woods and look for Little Rosy. Use the handshake option to get her to join your party.

To make Berserkers good go into combat and choose the "Yin/Yang" option to activate Berserk. Then, in the next round, chose Fight->Berserk. Win the fight and sleep to remove imadness from your Berserkers. Now just hit "Battle" and your Berserkers get the bonus of Berserking without the drawbacks.

>>386296231
What is the word I have to tell the shopkeeper in order to buy/sell things? Shit is driving me crazy.

>>386296580
Dont use Talk. Chose a different option. "Coins" to buy and "Mask & Bag" to sell.

>>386296679
Thanks, Anon.

did clive fix the crashes from picking up keys?

if so can anyone upload the game files for me? its just 50mb

Why does RPG Codex hate all JRPGs inherently?
What's wrong with wanting to play a story driven game with established characters once in a while instead of games about five to eight murder hobos wandering the countryside?

>>386296580
>>386296679
Right click the action icon to use the drop down menu. Very useful for combat too.

>>386296540
feelin real strong beating the first levels of a game with your exploits doncha, kid?

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>>386296056
Editor is virus.

>try to make a naga woman
>Careers: Pirate, Assassin
>can't select either of them

Am I missing something here?

>>386296758
I don't get the feeling that they do hate them that much, it is more of a meme.

>>386296819
Its not an exploit. Cleve removed all the bugs. The game is flawless. Anything in it is a feature.

>>386296758
they are poorly written, linear, have no choices, and have no character building

How do I rearrange my party?

bard nerf fucking when/?

So whats the verdict lads? Is it everything Cleave promised? Will it make them regret their words and deeds?

>>386297147

confirmed for v2.0

>>386296940
There are minimum stats you need. Roll higher.

>>386297085
click on the name tags

>>386297085
click on their name, and click on the name of a person you want to trade with.

>>386297085
Click on the character name then click on the character you want him to switch positions with. Alternatively, right click on the portrait and choose Move To...

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>>386296865
False positive. It works good for me and Malwarebytes didn't find shit.

Why would I buy this when wizardry 6-8 costs nearly 1/3rd of the price?

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I need the screencap where the dev compares himself to a neanderthal. My friend doesn't believe me.

>>386297378
excellent

>>386297487
because AY DEE AY DEE ROW

>>386297496
In one of the updates he talks about sapiens in a way that makes it clear he doesn't consider himself one.
>Sapiens thinks if you have a clinically tested IQ of 183 it means you're better at solving the jumble in the newspaper. This is what Sapiens actually believes.

>>386297496
Just look at any of the Steam news updates for Grimoire.

>>386297487
You are advised to play wizardry first, and purchase this game if you want more.

>>386297487
You wouldn't, you'd buy this after having played said games and wanting more.

>>386297764
He sounds woke af desu senpai

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>>386296212
Proof /v/ is sape-city.

>>386297487
You shouldn't. Wizard 6-8 is exactly what you would be better off playing. Maybe at 1/2 price after the game is confirmed to actually be finished and worthwhile, then you could possibly stomach the purchase, IMO.

>>386297487
You play those games first, and then, if you're still sated for more, there are still a few dozen games for you to play before Grimoire. But if you're done with all of them and you still want more, Grimoire is a good pick at that point.

>>386297930
>>386297997
Not him but I briefly tried Wizardry 7 and found it harder to get into than the Grimoire demo. Can't see a reason to look back now.

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Ok so I'm in the catacombs, what now? There is a closed gate that says something about the herald of the winged exemplar and a ghosts that asks me about a cause to travel further. I'm looking for the bishop so I can find his book for the priest faggot.

Also how do you open the baths to find Clara? I know you can pay 5k but there is a closed gate further in

>>386298215
Good. All is well.

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Where the fuck do you find descriptions for the attributes? I need to dump some points but there's only 3 letters to go by and nothing that tells you what the attribute does.

Ok anons be straight with me is the link for the copy of the game a virus or not? I just want to play it.

>>386298915
it's a virus

>>386298915
I downloaded it from the pomf link and it seems clean

what do all the stats do?

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>>386298215
Imagine roleplaying a species of knuckle draggers wiped from the face of the earth by sape dick. Thals are literally a species extinguished by cucking.

>>386298663
I can tell you the answer, because another anon gave it away: grief
but nothing else really

>>386299295
literally no one knows. The manual isn't out yet and theres no information in-game. Destiny seems to give a chance to avoid fatal blows though.

>>386298215
Who else /proud sape/?

>first encounter
>attacked by two rows of ?WORM?s
>my giant warrior gets hit twice (2) taking double digit damage and gets a disease then dies immediately

Truly designed by someone from another era

>>386298837
The basic manual will be out Monday, the full manual should be out in a month.

>>386298837
Silly sape, you're just supposed to guess these things. Cleve will come up with a manual soon enough :^)

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>>386299601
We must repel the thal scum

>>386299408
And Cleve's confirmed that high strength and agility (in addition to having high vitality through resting) are needed for penetration.

>>386299667
GIT GUD

(hint: remake party and toss a bard and sage into it)

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>no penetration no matter what attack I do
HELP

this games gay

>>386299961
just b urself.

>>386299961
Don't go into battles with low VIT

>>386299827
Link? Weapon skill isn't taken into account?

>>386299875
I had both a bard and a sage.

There's nothing I can fucking do against a turn 1 instant kill. That shit is bad design.

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Steve is going around replying to youtube videos now apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPuR3ki0NkQ

>>386299084
He says one thing
>>386299183
He says another

Jesus Christ

>>386296190
How do you identify enemies? Don't tell me you need a spell.

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Who ?COMFY? here?

>>386299685

So, by august 2027 then?

>>386299395
Nice
Too bad I couldn't find the damn book, but I found a golden hand that I suppose is for the other closed place

In Gwimwah... You can wide tuwtwes.

I cannot wait until someone convinces DSP to play this.

So I'm starting in the shrine area.

Should I grind on encounters or head to town?

>>386299667
Two rows of ?worms? is I would say the most difficult random encounter early game. It's an outlier. Just save often. By the time you're level 2 you'll be able to handle them no problem, disease is still a bitch to deal with though.

>>386300485
?COMPUTER?

Oh shit it actually came out.

Is it even any good?

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>>386300585
CAMMMAAAWWWNNN THERE WAS LITERALLY NOTHING I COULD DO the game is just so buggy it's ridiculous

>>386298215
why would any one pay $35 for this without at least trying it out beforehand?

>>386300760
It's an ok rip-off of Wizardry 7.

>>386300760
apparently buggy, but memers claim to love it

>>386300760
it's an unironic masterpiece

>>386300485
>no bard
LOL good luck FAGGOT

>>386300760
fantastic

>>386300760
It's a 6/10

>>386300760
It's a 7/10 if you're into these type of games. It's an avoid/10 if you aren't because it's absolutely punishing at the beginning.

>>386300634
The Green Hand Gang will be standing in your way. A real bullshit fight. You're supposed to explore the Shrine and Aquavia and accumulate utility items (healing staves were indispensable for my party in the fight, nausea powder also did wonders) and build up character skills before confronting them. Your characters should be level 2 by then, but I guess better players than can probably find a way to beat them at level 1.

>>386296865
So is your face

>>386300980
>needing a crutch

>>386301109
Just bard lock'm + charm = GG rude chaps.

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>>386300760
IT'S GREAT!

I lost this party the other night to my HDD dying ;_;

>>386301216
I don't know about bards, but my wizard's charm spell and cleric's sleep spell had no effect on them.

>>386301425
because you skilled wrong lmao

>>386298915
y, its a virus, it installs gentoo on your pc (gentoo is a sort of trojan horse except worse)

really sucks man, i have ordered a new pc so im a phoneposter for now

So, is the game good?

>>386301109
I see. What are the secret shit I can get in that area?

>>386297496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyXSCd2Lp0&t=480s

>>386301528
What's your spellcaster's skill allocation like then?

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>reviews: mostly positive

Now I wish I actually had some blobber experience so I could join in on the fun. I have a feeling this game/genre will spit me out for the casual scum that I am though.

>>386297378
Is that screenshot real?

>>386301528
>>386302012
that's bullshit
instruments cast spells at max powerlevel is all

>>386300089
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/grimoire-release-thread-massive-incline.117563/page-61
>Strength and agility penetrate more and more as they increase, worked a long time on getting this balanced right.
>It's because your strength is puny. You are hitting them sort of flaccid and decrepit, they are barely noticing an attack with STR of 22. As you get stronger you will penetrate every time. That's what she said.
Weapon skill might just affect accuracy, hell if know.

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>>386302041
just give it a go m8

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If the anons linking are virus baiters are there any sites that have a reliable download?

Does Food have any value yet?
The "food" stat in the character menu doesn't seem to decline, ever.

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Is this a wizardry reference? Too bad 555 is not a real number or I would call Robert.

If Cleve wants to nerf Bard but make it still usable, he only needs to do two things. Don't let other party members use his items and don't let Music train up so fucking quickly. I had it at 100 before I even killed the serpent

>>386301894
The items you find are semi-random, I think. You'll find weapons, spellbooks, scrolls of all sorts. Keep your eye out for a staff that reincarnates dead party members, I think that one isn't random because many other people have mentioned it.

There are walls with secret buttons everywhere. It's advised that you have someone in your party with the Detect Secret spell or someone with a high Scout skill. Little Rosy is an NPC you can recruit five minutes into the game (if you have room in your party) and she has high Scout skill. I ended up dismissing her because it felt like cheating; most of her skills are already at around 50.

>>386302491
Not yet. Cleve claimed that he was going to change it to something else but he hasn't decided on what yet. That's for "version 2" apparently.

>>386302041
You could try a beginner's blobber?

>>386302491
No. He took it out because he couldn't find a way to implement it that wasn't annoying, and he couldn't be bothered to go through with the effort of removing that UI element.

>>386302609
It's written like this in Wizardry 6.

>>386302669
>20 years delay before release
>game is full of bugs and stuff that just plain doesn't work
superior Neanderthal genes at work

>>386302694
What would be a good beginners blobber?

>>386302846
This one

>>386302609
>start game over
>create bard
>put everyone to sleep and level music like crazy
>find instrument that paralyzes at level 3
>maxed music by then, too
>paralyze every boss
>they can't do fucking shit

Top kek. If Cleve wanted to implement a "you win" class, he should have at least renamed bard to "Neanderthal."

>>386302609
Obviously the starting instrument items shouldn't cast level 7 spells for free and even more obviously they shouldn't be usable by everyone.
It's really not hard to fix (or notice how broken it is for that matter)

Does anybody know a fix for windowed mode? It's just a black box for me, I can fix it by redownloading the game but I want to actually play in that mode.

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What is this thing?

>>386302846
Might and magic 4+5 world of xeen for a classic one.
MM 6 for a more modern 3D controls, easier to get into.

All might and magic RPGs are fairly easy.

>>386302990
?HUMMINGBIRD?

>>386302990
?ugly dog?

>>386302041
Play this one! Really it is not that hard. I never really played anything like it and it was just a clusterfuck in the beggining but a few hours later i got used to it and its fucking amazing now. If you are having dificulties just recruit little rosia and get a bard the game becomes piss easy with that. Enjoy it and good luck

How do we stop the sapes bros? Theyre getting too smug!

>>386302957
Don't use the "scale to fit" option when playing in windowed mode.

>>386302990
Brown Recluse

\>>386298215
>Stating the obvious.
How could /v/ NOT be sape-city? Cleve is the last living Neanderthal, there are no others.

>>386303167
That fixed it, thanks.

>>386302846
>>386303021
the 3DS Etrian games are good for beginners too.

Overall I don't think Grimoire is good for beginners but I just past ten hours so I don't know

So how do I find the secret when the detect secret spell is flashing? Do I just walk into walls?

What is there to do in Shrine of the Raptor?

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>>386302491
it's for V2,I thought he said item combining wasn't going to be in?

>>386302957
> redownloading the game

Stupid sape. Just delete the config file. Is this your first time using a computer?

>>386302928
It's just a slight nerf while keeping bard fine, there are some mesmetic resistant enemies like Slimes (I assume later there are probably more), and if you're running paralyze with heavy melee group, the damage does infact go down since you hit a lot more 0's.

I don't see the point in nerfing power leveling, since you can power level stealth the same way, I think that's fine to keep. Besides if you fuck up with paralyze on certain bosses and can't get a double attack, they come out of paralyze anyway and the bard is one of my fastest characters which made a few bosses annoying (until I got the charm lute, this thing has 0 downsides)

>>386303360
try walking through walls
hit the space bar on every wall
try searching with someone who knows about scouting

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>>386301528
>accidentally experience success despite developers incompetence and game's opaque design
>gloat

>>386303476
Normally I change the config myself, rather than delete it. I couldn't find a readable config therefore redownloading was my next best option.

>>386303441
I think he said combining works but only a small percent of the item merges have been implemented.

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>completed royal seal
>got stepping stones
now if only I could figure out how to use those damn things to cross this gap

>>386302361
https://mega.nz/#!WBNS3YIL!CRujbVwYg-sUF3gyv-WDjuMenQWXPiodf0ZWPFgLYb0

>>386295727
How much content is actually in the game? I doubt that there is much more than what is in the superdemo.

>>386303906
over 600 hours

>>386303949
Any suggestion for a strong/balanced party?

>>386303906
No one knows. Which says a lot about the blind Cleve supporters. Critical thinking not even once.

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Wishlisted this shit.

Not buying/playing it til I get my own custom portraits though.

>>386302132
So can bards really charm or put GHG to sleep? I tried casting those spells at max power level and never saw them succeed. I assumed that the whole gimmick in that fight is that you can't use charm or sleep as a crutch.

Is climbing and pitfalls even in this game? Feather Fall sounds like a useful spell, but if not it's shit.

>>386304085
The "blind Cleve supporters" don't actually play the game and are just posting sape memes.

>>386304106
I haven't met a single enemy that wasn't immediately and permanently put to sleep by the bard's harp

so yeah

>>386302609
>>386302928
There's literally nothing wrong with bard because this game is perfect and any patches aside from bug fixes would only lower the quality of the game.

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>>386303906
I just found this guy hiding inside the storehouse in the fist village

>>386304518
what a monster

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>>386304243
Are you sure?

>>386304518
Reminds me of my time playing Elder Scrolls 1

does this game / games like it have permadeath or are you expected to scum through them

>>386304796
yeah

>>386304965
Pics or it didn't happen

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>>386305061

>>386302846
Ignore the numales and play Might and Magic 3: Isles of Terra.

M&M or Wiz?

>>386305360
MM for comfy
Wiz for bullshit artificial difficulty

>>386305360
I don't prefer M&M only because it's easier. In general it seems more inspired

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>when your sage finally learns cure disease and your berserker gets to act for the first time in like 1000 turns

>Remember swinging from the back row will not be as likely to hit as thrusting from that same row. So guys in back should not use smash or slash unless you want to miss a lot.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/650670/discussions/0/1471967615850415991/#c1471967615850455013

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>>386305431

New Sorpigal in MM6 is the most comfy town ever created in video game history.

>>386304214
Nobody is actually playing the game.

>>386305680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1oGhfle1bE

>>386304518
I just killed that guy:

>Have bard with paralysis music
>Simply used it over and over while my berserkers hit him until he died
>?goat? didn't even have the chance to act one time
>I simply held down enter for 20 seconds and watched the exp roll in

BRAVO CLEVE!

>>386304214
They unironically do play the game. And they're attempting to force a memes to be precise. Sape/Thal, ?[noun]? and >>386297708, unfortunately they're too small a minority to have any impact. Sapes are the funposters.

t. proud sape

>>386305869
>bard outspeeds the goat

I had a 40 speed buffed with haste and that dude still got a million attacks in before I got to act

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It's time to discuss Cleve's terrible writing again.

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I don't care at all about this game, but all these threads got me into first person dungeon crawlers. Been playing MM3 as my starting point. Surprisingly fun game with loot that's ahead of its time.

>>386305907
>?[noun]?
this one could go places

>>386306056
Lots of spells too.
A lot of the dungeon crawlers only had a dozen spells or so. Even Grimrock which is fairly new has a fucking shit spell system with barely any spells.

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>>386295727
>Years of delays because of "micro issues"
>Game is released
>Its full of big issues

>>386306176
We need to meme it next AGDQ.
?female?

>>386306030
y do u keep posting this

>>386306030
There is nothing wrong with this sentence.

>>386305943
My bard was level 3 and I dumped all of my points into speed. Just dump attribute points into speed every level and wear a harp of paralysis or some shit and you'll plow through every boss. Oh, and I forgot that he did have one chance to act but all five of his attacks either missed or didn't penetrate my berserker. I got lucky but still.

Does Rose stay in your party forever?
She seems to be kind of OP.

>>386306176
Like up your ?butt?

>>386306369
you are not using the meme correctly, the noun has to be something amusing and obviously wrong

>>386306056
One of my favorite series. 3-6 are my favorite and 7 is okay but they shat all over the dungeons and made them tiny and linear. I'd post my collection but rural Brazilian bed & breakfast wifi is too weak to upload images.

I hear that the game's not actually 100% completed

what features are missing

>>386306439
I will use the ?meme? the way I want.

>>386300485
>wizards in my /v/
what a time to be alive

How the fuck do i use the owl figurine?

>>386306474
food and aging are have menu items but dont do anything yet
crafting is pretty much nonexistant despite having an interface

>>386306568
raptor shrine

>>386306568
Turn it over to get the 3 symbols

>>386306606
Yea but where and how? Thanks in advance

>>386306702
fireplace looking thing near the entrance

>>386306176
As the thal/sape realtionship is just patrician/pleb for clevefags, ?[ ___ ]? little different than """""""[ __ ]""""""". they're all redundant, thoughtless means to dodge compelling arguments.

>>386306056
Patrician

>>386306597
>crafting is pretty much nonexistant

Damn. I've been putting skill points into my Dwarf's metalworking skill. Can I not craft shit with this melonhead yet?

>>386306597
the game doesn't take enough time for aging to matter and the other two are just meant to spoof modern crafting survival rpgs. thal jokes with layers that most sapes won't get on the first try

>>386306350
what class is rosy?

>>386306809
you can with experience become patrician, but can only be born a thal

>>386306828
supposedly there are a handful of combinations but I havent seen anything

>>386306178
Grimrock's shit spell system and low number of classes really hurt it.

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>>386306295
There is quite a bit wrong with it if you nothing anything at all.

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I would play M&M3 if it had a better colour palette

>>386306894
Thaumaturge

There's no M&M general on /vg/ you liars

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>>386306942
I do agree >>386299391

>>386307206
That a joke? The colors are gorgeous.

It's MM4 and 5 where it's all ugly and poorly done.

>>386300485
This is how the game truely should be played.

>>386307206
Can't help the agents of decline from destroying themselves with their poor taste.

>>386307338
It's on /vr/ dumbass

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>>386295727
NIGGER I THINK THE 600hr are pretty much confirmed

>Gorlo has some of the most complex NPC interaction of all, with all manner of factors affecting your conversation including Charm, Detect Secret as well as Diplomacy. I wish I had the time to make all NPCs as complex but right now he is the one who makes decisions on what to tell you about and what to withhold. You can cast Charm on him and it's like truth serum. It is a lot of script to factor all this in for each word in his vocabulary and Gorlo was kind of the test bed to prove I could make the conversations quite complicated with enough time.
The most important things to extract from him is the Key to The Catacombs and everything he knows about the Black Lich and the "scandal." Ernest Hemingway said that what makes narrative interesting is what the characters in a story are trying to avoid talking about. So in Village of Crowl that would be the one thing that is the core of the story here, the "scandal." IT also foreshadows other discoveries about the Crusade Temple at the end of this region.
P.S. I'm pretty sure you can still eventually recruit Gorlo. He has a portrait and a character profile.

This game is fukkin DEEP

>>386307338
because it's on /vr/...

>>386307402
How does that confirm 600 hours?

>>386300485
>not playing this game on a 4k 1080 pee graphic monitor with HD stereo

>>386298032
you have no idea bro, read his first hand accounts of the LA riots https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1005984_.html

>>386307402
that fuck might have given me the key to the catacombs but I still can't figure out where the golden hand is to unlock the black lich door, and why the fuck I now have a dead rat (important) item.

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Jeez, finally understood what this button is for.

Holding it down reveals the "safe havens" that your characters have found, these are areas where you can rest without risk of enemies jumping you in your sleep.

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>>386307402
yfw you read a post and it's as if some incorporeal entity farted directly in your face with flatulence made up of such distilled ignorancy breathing it causes debilitating confusion and destroys your ability to focus on anything for several seconds.

So with spell scrolls are they to learn a new spell or are they a 1 cast item?

>>386302846
Speaking as a beginner myself I didn't have any major problems with Grimrock 1 and 2

>>386308441

I think you just had a stroke. It was a coherent if sloppy post.

>>386308621
Scrolls are single use items. Spellbooks are the ones characters learn spells from. Their chance of learning a spell from a spellbook is determined by the Scribe skill, which can be augmented by the Read Magic spell. Spellbooks are used up when a character has successfully learned a spell from them.

>>386295727
For what it's worth, I played it for 45 minutes or so. I have NO IDEA what I'm doing here so feel free to laugh at me. I figure the light of sight will illuminate this game's worth to you as a person.

https://youtu.be/m4vYNGtls6U

God I need that manual. I can't see SHIT!

>>386308267
that's a hot tip anon, thanks

>>386308752
>t. Author

A relic of a bygone era, this game plays like a Ford Edsel. The interface is bad, even by 90s stardards. It is difficult to read, and uses a font that reminds me of comic sans. It even lacks icons that properly indicate their' function, such as the options menu being represented by two dice.

The music is repetitive and lacks inspiration, a trait that is emphasised by the constant loop it plays in. While on the topic of sound, the enemies you encounter will, nine times out of ten, blast you with a barrage of identical low quality sound effects, if there are multiple enemies on the screen then all of these sounds are played at the same time, resulting in a highly deformed mess of screeching, clacking, and sometimes mumbled gibberish. To complement the audatory overload, many assets in this "game" appear to still be using placeholder names, leaving you both deaf and confused. A few cases in point: The "?WORMS?" sound like machine guns, the "?RUDE CHAPS?" scream unintelligibly, and always in tandom with their fellow brethern, and the "?UGLY DOG?" is very clearly a rat.

Before we cover the this games' balance - there is none - lets take a look at the story.

>>386309546


The storyline that is presented on the menu screen is overly vague, and fails to properly describe the events leading you up to your "adventure". What is presented is disjointed, and makes very little sense with all of the antiquated jargins used to try and spice up what would otherwise be a typical, if not boring storyline that MAY have been acceptable in 1997, but utterly disappoints by todays standards. When you actually jump in and play the game, the information provided to you is usually either irrelivant, or just drawn out, such as the fairy you encounter at the start of a puke green forest level. The game treats you like a child in this regard, despite there being virtually no explantion as to how anything else works. It can't trust you NOT to see a heap of bones and take them as a source of ambiance - it can't afford for you to bypass the glory of a fairy that advetises museums of magic. It essentially slams you on the head with a plank, nearly demanding that you apperciate the "lore" that you can speciously call thorough.

Now for game balance. There is literally no balance that I can discern from my time playing this 20 year conundrem. I start a party, and 5 movements in a pack of giant bats appear and sluaghter 5 of my 8 party members. When I retreated, which killed another one of my characters, I heard a soundclip of Monty Python and the Holy Grail blast "RUN AWAY!" into my headphones. So much for ambiance.

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>>386308828
>Scrolls are single cast items

Is what I meant to say.

By the way, to view item descriptions, change your characters action icon to Look, select an item then click on Look with the item in hand. To view detailed stats, do the same thing but with the Assay icon.

>>386309680
Preventing new players from even getting a feel for a games controls before they are killed is perhaps the most bizzare design choice that a developer could ever choose, and Grimoire has perfected this to an artform. It ruins any hope of enjoying this non-sensical storyline racked with deformed and illogical sound effects and placeholder titles.

Grimoire took 20 years to release, and needs another 20 for it to be considered marginally enjoyable, even by 90s standards. Instead of shelling near 40 dollars for a Wizardry clone, created by a disgruntled former employee of the now closed Sir-Tech software company, buy Wizardry 7, the game the developer has spent so much time trying to plagarize.

Oh shit, just figured out how to move through your inventory super fast.

Click on the direction of the arrow you want to go
Hold enter to scroll fast

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>>386309757
Assaying is useful for comparing weapon damage values, among other things.

>>386309546
>>386309680
This is some tasty salt. I literally have no idea what game you're playing but, aside from the A/V and UI portions of your review, I have to wonder if we're playing the same game.

Guys... I don't think Cleve is a 'thal after all. He sounds nothing like one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o589CAu73UM
Just another sape putting on an act.

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>>386309546
>>386309680
>>386309762
>t. Norman Sirotek
Your kids shit the bed managing Sir-Tech and the investors litigated any attempts to run off of anything of value. Get over it.

Sages can use lyres so you can free up a slot in your party instead of having a useless bard since sage is support class at least mines is with all the detect and read skills

>>386297496
Quest is amazing, good to see someone else post about it.

It was actually released?

>>386310941
Yep, but its nothing to write home about. 6/10 at most.

>>386307824
interesting but questionable. if nothing else this guy's a good storyteller

>>386307402
I got the key to the catacombs but what the fuck do I do with it? I still cant open the gate in Saint George's tomb.

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>>386310941
YES IT'S AS GOOD AS YE OLDEN DAGGERFALL LAD

>>386306030

I think you, like most kids, have heard and misused the word awesome so much that you don't know what it's really used for

how do i get the bard to chuck more balls?

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>>386311807

>>386306942
>you can with experience become patrician
lmao look at this pleb

>>386308871
fuck off faggot

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RUSSIANS INVOLVED IN GRIMOIRE CONSPIRACY!!

>>386312184
Yeah, yeah. Audio and video works better at showing the game than mere images. I'm just offering my perspective.

>>386309546
>the "?UGLY DOG?" is very clearly a rat

This fucking guy. There's no way this review isn't facetious.

>>386298215
10 votes
your poll a shit

>>386309762
>Sape complains abiut being sape-filtered by the mechanics of the game his tiny sape brain can't wrap his sloped forehead around
You got found out. Consider yourself filtered. Grimoire is not for you.

>>386312271
What an insufferable faggot.

>>386301312
sounds like Cleve's DRM got you

>>386312514
Cry harder sape

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>>386312271

>>386312514
Russians don't even know what's going on in my side of America. People are just convinced the phrase Russian hackers is a porn name now,

Can I make a human with a harem of anthro girls?

anyway to swap out members

>>386302002
>release on may 2012 no matter what

>>386295727
So what's the verdict? Buying anyway

>>386312512
>defends terrible game design to the death
You got played like a damn fiddle, sape.

Apparently the Siroteks used to have a castle in Eastern Europe or something, before commies forced them to immigrate to the states.

>>386312781
You can dismiss party members by right clicking on their portrait and picking the dismiss option. You can find dismissed party members in the sarcophagi room in the Shrine of the Raptor if you want to include them in your party again.

>>386297203
So it's going to take at least 5 years then?

/v/ whats this game like? Sell me on it.

>>386295727

Holy fuck I've been waiting for this shit since Usenet

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>>386312514
I bet you have a feminine dick.

>>386313397
>implying
We're still waiting on the manual which is going to take at least 10 years

>>386313067
If you were playing this during the 90s--assuming it came with documentation like a manual (and you were a big fan of the genre), it would be a solid 6/10. If you're still a big fan of the genre and are starved for this type of game, it's a 7/10 without documentation if you don't mind the brutal difficulty when you first begin. However, the game is almost stupidly easy if you realize how overpowered and unbalanced bards are and recruit the obscenely powerful fairy at the beginning (leave a recruitment spot open when making your party).

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>>386312271
>Greatest RPG ever made because it's blindly recommended by biased consumers that have appraised less than 0.0166667 of the games purported length.

BRB deleting my free copy which I haven't touched since launch and will buy steam version directly

>>386313410
>Sell me on it.
Do you like dungeon crawlers? Real dungeon crawlers like Wizardry and Bard's Tale? If yes, you will like this. If no, you have no reason to be in this thread anyways.

Any tips? I'm at the Gardens of Midknight, I have the item from Aquavia, and I can't get into St. George or the Black Lich place. I killed both ghosts in the Spirit Cave, what do?

>>386313732
>However, the game is almost stupidly easy if you realize how overpowered and unbalanced bards are

That's disappointing, I've always despised bards.

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>>386313410
It is A buggy mess with an archaic interface and no manual made by an american expat who was apparently taught shitposting by the king shit of dingo mountain. Yet despite all that it is actually good and fun if you like games like this and it probably does actually have 100+ hours of gameplay.

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Well what is it /v/?

>>386296745
No, he just addressed this issue though. Will be fixed with the next patch. Didn't give a timeframe though. Until then I am unable to progress in the game.

>>386313083
>The sape loudly proclaims he is too dumb to comprehend the simple mechanisms of the game
We know. You're a sape. The game sails above your low-volume skull. Make more posts about how you're not equiped upstairs to play the game.

>>386313891
Here is how bards play in grimwah. Keep in mind that skills raise the more you use them just like in Elderscrolls games:

>Make bard
>Default attack is a song which is basically a beefed up spell cast at max power with no chance for failure
>Level 1 character has a 100% chance to put a monster to sleep
>Every use of this attack raises the "music" skill by 1
>You'll hit 100 in music before you're level 2 - 3
>By then you'll find a harp of paralysis
>One use of this by that time is enough to completely disable any enemy even a boss
>Hold down the enter key until the battle is over assuming you dumped all attribute points into speed during level up

Cleve said that he's going to nerf them in the next patch, though, so get your bard on while the gettin' is good.

>>386314204
>those names

>>386313891
The issue seems to be that the game was balanced around the very hard difficulty levels. Lots of problems that stem from the fact that outside of the demos Clive was the only one who played the game. I still think it has lots of potential if he actually keeps patching it.

>>386313732
Yeah, I figured that out by pure chance. Bards are the roguelike wizards. Fucking mandatory.

>>386313891
IThey're like Wizardry 6-7 bards but on steroids.

>>386314321
>so get your bard on while the gettin' is good.

I think not

>>386313943
The game has some issues, sure, but I wouldn't call it a "buggy mess". Bugs have been infrequent on my end, and I'm still playing the pirated 1.0 release.

The interface is pretty daunting at first but I've grown to like it after I've figured out the hotkeys and what UI elements do what. A manual for the game will definitely be a great help. The inventory is terrible, some of the fonts are difficult to read, but everything else works well.

>>386314679
When you're getting raped by worms over and over every two steps, you'll reconsider this statement.

>>386314757
Be damned if I will. Filthy bards don't even deserve to be a class.

>>386313732
>However, the game is almost stupidly easy
It's harder than wizardry 6-8, though.

>>386314757
Doing fine with my 6-man party comprised of 2 warriors, a ranger, a thief, a cleric and a wizard. Bards won't help you with the Green Hand Gang, by the way.

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>>386314998
Did a musician steal your gf?

>>386315009
It really isn't if you lurked these threads (or Codex) and figured out what NPCs/classes/etc are broken. Sages (they learn more spells than Wizards much faster) and Bards are both OP. Don't create meme characters like the eyeball guys or Vampires because they can't wear shit for gear and/or cannot be revived for quite a while with conventional methods. Your front line warriors should be sword and shield lizard-men beserkers (they are proficient with swords so their skill raises extremely quickly and they don't have any armor restrictions as far as I know--not to mention going berserk doubles your damage). Recruit the fairy at the beginning. She is godlike compared to any other caster you could possibly create, etc.

>>386315738
Also, your skill in a certain weapon will increase your chance to hit, but your vitality/stamina (sleep often because even walking around decreases this), strength, and agility all influence how often you penetrate. Your fighters need to raise strength, agility, and speed (so enemies don't attack you first) as much as possible. Berserker lizardmen get good HP rolls upon level up so you don't have to worry about constitution as much.

What's the verdict? Seems like the game is just okay. Not the worst thing to come out.

Where do I use the key to the catacombs?

>>386302361
https://mega.nz/#!lSQVAIhT!CCyqT5H9PvEoR0F4gvrbPEEW10pjvTBLSB2Ur545uvo

It's legit.

>>386315645
Hey man, Nuno is a fucking fantastic musician who was held down by the garbage of mainstream 80's.

>>386316234
That's about it

>>386316314
It's in the same house that you bribed/charmed the scribe guy in order to get the key. Exit the library and head to the master level locked door. Use the key and it opens.

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>>386316234
>Everybody who has played it has known they are on the verge of discovering something really amazing. A lack of understanding of the user interface and game mechanics has not prevented the majority of players from concluding they may be looking at one of the best computer roleplaying games ever written. The smartest ones intuit it, they don't need a press rep to give them a bag of promotional goodies for them to guess it.

>As the author, I know what people have not discovered yet. They are on the tip of an iceberg and Grimoire runs into deep, deep waters. The density they see now is only a fraction of what they are going to find as they push further into the game. A play of only a few hours will not even break the surface. The familiar area of the original demo, the Avian Mountains, is now only a single drop of rain in a cyclone compared to how much they will discover when they leave this area. Rather than tell people of the Dirge ... or of Waterport ... or of Bahomet Megalith ... or of the Necropolix ... or of Black Pierre ... or of the Raven Wildes ... or a hundred other areas ... or of the vast story that awaits them ... would only spoil the fun. I prefer to let word of mouth do that for me, the best kind of promotion of them all.

>>386313732
Bards also trivialized early Wizardry 6. The real question is if the sleep and paralyze instruments still work in mid and late game areas

>>386316481
Nobody knows because nobody has played more than 15 hours and the game is hundreds of hour long.

>>386311807
>>386306295
He's pointing out the fact that the game description is talking about giant mountains when there is clearly an open field in front of them.

>>386316192
Oh, and to drive home how OP the fairy sorcerer girl is at the beginning, she has 50hp (more than a level 3 giant berserker) with 300mana (a level 1 drow mage starts with like 12 mana). You find her two steps after beginning the game and she has an AOE attack that obliterates fucking everything for at least the next 40+ game time. I'm assuming that, anyway, since the entire game has been a cakewalk so far with her and a bard.

So any tips on char creation?

I see metalsmith listed as a career for Giants and Dorfs but can't choose it? Are Giant warriors good for that matter?

Vampyr wizard sounds fun, but is it?

What about Pirates and Assassins?

Also, what's the word on these attributes and stats?

>>386316398
Is it fucking up to date?
Can I scale to window yet?

does anyone have a list of what every stat means and does?
con constitution?
what's FEL DEV MET and DES?

>>386317672
FELlation
DEViancy
METhamphetamine
DESu

>>386316710
There is a player in the steam reviews who has played more than 35 hours. And you have no proof that the game is "hundreds of hour long" so STFU

>>386317672
fellowship, devotion, destiny
no idea what they do, but a game manual is in the works at the moment

>>386316234
Better to ask again in a week or a month. After spending 10-15 hours I only managed to fully explore like 5 maps out of the 200+ the game supposedly has.

The one quality of the game that really stands out to me so far is how dense the maps are with secrets. Minor secrets with healing fountains or locked chests, major secrets with a boss fight, secrets within secrets, secrets with secret items that help for that boss fight. There's always something interesting going on. I just arrived in the village and I'm overwhelmed with the shit you can do. I busted open a locked door in a shop leading to a museum, which has a well that leads into some creepy dungeon and had to stop because I still haven't visited the other buildings in the village.

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Can somebody give me a quick rundown of how exactly this game works? Gameplay, etc. I've never played any games like Wizardy so this shit is totally foreign to me. I realize I could just do a google search but if you wouldn't mind humoring an autist like myself I'd appreciate it.

>>386317672
fellowship - charisma
devotion - more magic points
metabolism - helps your stamina
destiny - luck

>>386317672
Fellowship - plays some role in NPC interactions.
Devotion - Determines how much MP you get on levelup
Metabolism - Determines stamina and will probably play a part in hunger once it's implemented.
Destiny - Determines chance to survive a killing blow in combat.

Most accurate information we really have at the moment.

>>386317876
Destiny is luck and mostly worthless. It gives your characters a "second chance" to beat death if they are reduced to zero HP. Fellowship also seems to be mostly a worthless stat: it functions like charisma in AD&D games. It's useful for bartering but you can sell garbage for thousands of GP, anyway. Devotion is apparently something useful to Clerics but I have no idea what differentiates it from wisdom yet.

Does anyone have any tips for not getting decimated by the stupid bugs? The incomprehensible muttering rude chaps are less dangerous.

>>386317835
And you have no proof that it is not. And anyone can leave a game open idling in steam.

Right now I'm avoiding using bards and Little Rosie. Do I get extra 'thal points?
Also the music in the old demo was so good, what happened?

>>386318324
1. Make a bard
2. Put them to sleep OR:
3. Recruit the fairy
4. Obliterate everything before they get a chance to attack

>>386302990
?PENCIL?

alright just avoided a fatal blow because of destiny

How do I use the bards lyre

>>386318216
I heard devotion influences how much your mana increases per level.
Not sure how true that is though.

>>386318905
Nevermind you just use it as a "fight" command

Ok nigga. What did you put your bonus poi ts in?
I picked stats because I don't cheese and I felt like they helped the most at the start of the game. Should I have picked skills or hp instead?

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>>386318905
either equip it or just use it as a normal item in combat on anyone's move you want (it's the muscle icon for items)

Also apparently a ?rudechap? wants to be my friend and wants to join me for saving him from some nasty spiders. If I didn't think it'd be retarded to have overpowered NPC's I would totally do it.

>game has food stat

>does nothing

>there's no food

HAHAHAH
How the fuck did he not notice this?

>NO PENETRATION
How do I fix this

>constantly dying on the first turn unless I have a Bard on your team

can you say bad design

>>386319319
>
Higher main stat like strength/agility/int. better weapons with higher dice rolls like 2d8 4d8. Shit like that.

>>386319304
It's gonna be in V2 :)

>>386319304
He disabled it because food + the inventory was just annoying and not fun.

>>386319410
How do i get better weapons in the forest

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>game crashes if i go here
TWENTY FOUR YEARS

>>386319374
If you actually rolled a good party and arranged them in the right order you would be fine, bard and recruiting rosy is easy mode for babbies who cant into dungeon crawlers.

What are the chances Cleve will release balance patches? Content is cool but I'd like some balance in my RPG so having a Sage isn't required for me to not refund the game.

>>386319665
Go to the back of the map, theres some bushes and behind one is a chest. In the shrine of raptors theres a secret wall, press space bar until you find a switch on the wall. Inside is more items and the staff of caudecus. Next head to aquavius and be prepared to spend a little bit of time there. There is a lot of loot.

Which start?

>>386319815
Why wouldn't you want a sage? I have brain rot, spells that give insanity to a target. Psyconic blast, cure light wounds, cure light condition. He's a fucking dps support beast.

On my characters stat screen, why is one of the skills highlighted in pink?

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>>386295727
What did he meme by this?

Incidentally, this is his game. Gotta say Grimoire still looks better. http://store.steampowered.com/app/654250/Catacombs_1_Demon_War/

The constant Codex shilling threads on here are complete garbage, but looking at some anti-Grimoire posting is a hell of a lot more fun.

>>386319890
sanctuary

>>386318324
The fireball spell works wonders if you have enough MP and can cast it at level 3 without fizzling.

>>386306295
This sounds like something you would hear gandalf think in lord rings.

Why does my mouse move so slow? Is this a bug?

>>386319984
y tho

>>386319979
So many nu-males are mad that a real he man is successful while their pixelshit garbage gets ignored as the trash it is.

>>386320085
Easier start, you wont get your shit pushed in. And is balanced to start. If you explore and get alot of shit before first dungeon and after you complete said dungeon you will be set to continue on. Once you hit level 2 and at the end level 3 you start wrecking shit.

>>386320050
Anything animated that isn't the idle poses of enemies causes mouse input to drop during their duration. Well not exactly drop but everything visually freezes, then catches up after the animation.

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>have most of my vitality
>Attacks don't penetrate half the time
Fuck off, are all dungeon crawlers this shitty?
>Party member in the back is one hit killed

I still don't know how to feel about Cleve.

His internet history is really weird. It's like if Chris-Chan fused with some low-tier idiots from nu-/pol/, took all his Sonic autism and channeled it into a career in game development.

He seems really eccentric and egotistical, and the game was kind of buggy at launch

But at the same time it's clear he genuinely likes and wants to make this game, and despite his initial 20-year laziness he's good at listening to feedback and fixing things when necessary.

>>386319979
Why do indie devs keep throwing shit at each other?

>>386320161
I'm talking even on the title screen, the mouse takes forever to catch up.

>>386320165
Your party members are awfully rolled if any character get's one shot. If you have a character with lower than 10 hp, restart the game until you at least get 15hp for casters and like 30 for tanks.

Ok guys serious question can i do well with the default party? I don't want to cheat with little rosy or other npcs either. Will i make it??

>>386320050
Yes turn of scaling in options.
>>386320189
I think people not understanding the Cleve is usually taking the piss is a good test of autism. He roasts himself repeatedly in game.

>>386320220
Success breeds jealously. They think they deserve to get sales more than he does because they say all the right things on twitter and he is a chronic shitposter.

>>386319979
Who the fuck is that retard?

>>386320189

It's impossible to gamedev without a bit of the tism. You put in like 10 times the effort compared to any other dev job and get like a fraction of the reward.

>>386319319
You have to give yourself up to the incline, Anon. The NEETbux don't matter. The tendies don't matter.

>>386318598
>And you have no proof that it is not
An yet I'm not the one making grand claims about shit I can't validate. Like you pulling numbers out of your ass and claiming they apply in ever case. Again, STFU