What separates a good stealth game from a bad stealth game?

Rocket launchers

It's only a good stealth game if Kojima made it.

Good stealth.

When the action or combat is shit and a bit hard, so you have to focus more on the stealth part.

Boss fights that dont involve stealth

>>386286927
splinter cell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kojimbo garbage

>>386286980
This. It's precisely why the Thief games are a hallmark in the genre.

>>386286980
I don't know if I agree. The action and combat is amazing in Dishonored 2 but there's still good incentive to play stealthy.
If you play a nonlethal, powerless playthrough and aim for ghost, you have a decent thief game without water, rope and moss arrows.
If you play a high chaos playthrough with powers, it's basically Dark Messiah.

If it's fun, it's good.

Shooting the heads off of people is harder than trying to not get seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPqwDGXxLhU
>inb4 triggered Dishonoredkeks

>>386286980
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>>386287774
>fun
There's that buzzword again.

A word used by the idiot masses to sweep away any form of discussion or critique because they relegate their entertainment to a simple biological desire.

>>386289316
thank you for this, it made me feel like it was 2012 again

>>386288297
SUBTLE MATURE SUBTLE MATURE
What's with level design, dude? Why do these action games have so much action?
Video essays are by people who can't write for people who don't read

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When it's creative with its stealth mechanics.
If I wanted to backstab people and feel proud about it I would be a cunt irl, not killing hundreds upon hundreds of enemies just because I got behind them.
It's lazy dev design, incredibly unrealistic and boring.

>>386286927
Nah, Tenchu were good.

>>386290792
This is accurate.

If I can't experiment with mechanics and find creative ways to exploit the AI, then it's a shit stealth game. That's what gives a stealth game it's replay value, after all.

>>386286786

AI, noises & lighting actually mattering. Well crafted level design, and scenarios.

>>386286786
A good stealth game stays hidden with no problem, a bad stealth game stands out like a sore thumb.
hehehehehehe

>>386286786
If your horse can take a big poo poo