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TOUHOU IS FUCKING UNBALANCED GARBAGE. IF YOU DEFEND THIS GAME,

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TOUHOU IS FUCKING UNBALANCED GARBAGE. IF YOU DEFEND THIS GAME, FUCK YOU. THIS IS GENUINE BAD GAME DESIGN. ZUN IS A FUCKING HACK AND YOU BRAINDEAD WEEBS NEED TO WAKE UP AND ACCEPT THIS
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thsi simage disturbs me

makes my skin crawl
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>>386279034
Why are you screaming in caps lock on the internet just because you don't like a game?
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>>386279034
Kill yourself MaZe
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>>386279034
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git gud
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>>386279034
>Unbalanced
It's a single player game, what do you mean by this
You mean, like, the different characters/shot types aren't equally balanced? That might be an issue in a few games, yeah.
Or are you just ass at the game and bad at communicating?
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>>386279879
OH WOW, I HAVEN'T HEARD THIS BEFORE. FUCK YOU. IF I SHIT IN YOUR DRINK AND YOU SAID "THIS IS BAD", I WOULDN'T SAY GIT GUD TASTE, WOULD I? NO, BECAUSE THE DRINK IS OBJECTIVELY BAD, I FUCKING SHIT IN IT.
>>386279956
THE RNG SHIT IS FUCKING NONSENSE AND SOME LEVELS/BOSSES ARE FAR HARDER THAN WHAT COMES AFTER THEM. WHILE SOMETIMES, LEVELS ARE RIDICULOUSLY DIFFICULT ONLY TO HAVE AN EASY BOSS AFTER. T'S UNBALANCED IN TERMS OF DIFFICULTY. THERE IS NOT A PROPER DIFFICULTY CURVE.
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>>386279034
It's a bullet hell. It's not for pussies, and anyone going in thinking they were hot shit and would be good at it immediately is the definition of a casual. Even the Japanese have to actually train with these games to get good.
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>>386280204
but if you eat a fine plate of carbonara and say it's shit then saying git gud taste is appropriate, and this is what's happening
You have shit taste and shit skill, git gud
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>>386280204
Yes, it's considered one of the most difficult game series of all time for a good reason, you require being japanese or autistic to finish them.
Any more obvious facts that everybody already knows?
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>>386279034
>get buttblasted at touhou
>post the easiest extra stage of the entire series
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>>386279956
Not OP but mother fuck you faggots who defend bad design with "Git Gud." Your mom should've gotten gud at sucking cocks so she won't shit out babbies as stupid as you are. Better yet, check this 5 so you can fucking kill yourself.
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>>386280447
That's not a 5.
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>>386280204
>THE RNG SHIT
What? Touhou is one of the least RNG-dependent games out there, to the point that shitposters often make the argument that playing well is just memorization. What do you mean?
>SOME LEVELS/BOSSES ARE FAR HARDER THAN WHAT COMES AFTER THEM
Name some examples. In my experience most of the games have steep but proper difficulty curves. The only dips in difficulty are at the beginnings of lategame stages so that they can ramp up in the later parts, but this makes good sense and is good design.
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B-but muh animu girls! >_<
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>>386279034
Maybe starting off with one of the hardest Bullet-Hells wasn't such a good idea, newfag. It's like giving a middle school violinist a copy of flight of the bumblebee or a kid who got an electric guitar for christmas the sheetmusic to Nottingham Lace-- of course you're gonna get your ass handed to you and it's gonna seem impossible. Try a less difficult BH to start out with and go from there: Ikaruga, Silvergun, Gradius V, games that are balls hard by normal standards but on the lower end of difficulty for this genre. That's how you git gud.
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which 2hu wud u fuck
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>>386280447
>Not OP but mother fuck you faggots who defend bad design with "Git Gud."
That sort of thing is obnoxious but Touhou is not a case of this, it's a case of the inverse phenomenon where faggots like OP try to defend their piss poor ability with "it's the game's fault"
If you have an actual complaint about the game design go ahead and voice it.
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>>386279034
>I'm a worthless faggot who gets ass fucked playing easy mode in Touhou
Fixed
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I have played every single touhou game except the .5's and I have never been able to 1CC any of them. How do I git gud, /v/?
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>>386281059
Like this >>386280859 pretty much.
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>>386279034
More than 90% of the 2hu fandom isn't into the games to begin with. Don't bother.
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>>386280447
You haven't explained why it's "bad" design, you are complaining that the game is difficult. You are bad at the game and need to get good.
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>>386279034
OP, you should be glad to not be good at this game, just look at the average person who plays them on /jp/.
Why are you mad?
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>>386280859
I've 1CC'd every Windows Touhou on Normal but I can hardly get past stage 2 of Ikaruga
The ship has a 2-pixel wide hitbox and all but I still don't have a feel for where it is and the ship moves so goddamned fast
Am I just too old to play something that fast-paced as opposed to the slower Touhou games?
I'm not OP btw
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>>386281059
Just play touhou 8 or 13. If you can't even beat these, you shouldn't touch bullet hell ever again.
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>>386281243
That's because Ikaruga's focus is less on dodging millions of slow bullets but on dodging tens of fast bullets using a mechanic that forces you to multitask. But even so, once you get the hang of it it's far easier than most other bullet hells, at least up until the third-level boss.
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>>386281059
Play for longer than twenty minutes.
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>>386280932
Kanako
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Just play the PC-98 games, so much more forgiving in terms of difficulty. Easy/Normal feels like the average shoot em up and Hard/Lunatic feels more like the average Touhou. ZUN should've kept it like that
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>>386281243
touhou is fairly simple compared to ikaruga - if it's a bullet, dodge it

now ikaruga introduces polarity thing which can completely change the battlefield with one button so you have to manipulate it to eat unavoidable bullets
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>>386279034
git good fag and go back to Undertail. Touhou isn't even hard. Try cave (company) games.
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>>386281243
Also, use the controlstick for dodging the streams of bullets, and the D-pad for weaving in and out of tight physical obstacles. And learn how to max out the homing missles at every opportunity.
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>>386279034
hold shift for focused movement
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>>386280204
>touhou
>RNG

wow, RNG is really becoming the new "artificial difficulty" where it loses all meaning because people who are bad at games like you abuse it.

Touhou actually has zero RNG whatsoever, you could program a macro to beat the game for you by repeating the same pattern.
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>>386281507
spells like this are easy. The annoying part is just when shit blends in like at 0:13. Really strains the eyes
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>>386279034
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>>386281707
EoSD has some RNG
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>>386279034
>hardcore difficulty for a game that prides itself in being difficult is bad game design
>>386280204
>bullet hell shooters have RNG

You are literally retarded.
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>>386281798
I guess but most of the franchise doesn't and pretty much every game out there has tons of it so its a testament to how retarded OP is.
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>>386281798
anti-RNG fags BTFO. HOW WILL THEY RECOVER?
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>>386281949
fuck off frogposter
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>>386279034
Try something more for your skill group
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>>386281507
I-Is that how the spell is supposed to be beaten? I just follow the stream while dodging the small stars to her right.

But I still 1cc TH8 on lunatic and beaten all last words.
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>>386279495
Why would that be maze?
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>>386281949
>no argument
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I don't know what is worse, OP complaining about one of the easiest extra stages in the whole series or the retards talking like touhou is one of the hardest games ever.
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>>386282000
dumb phoneposter
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>>386281949
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>>386282107
wow, look at this bigshot over here. I bet you can beat any video game in 20 minutes, right?
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>>386281243
Ikaruga has three difficulties, at least on Steam, the only difference being which color types will jizz bullets at you when they die: none of them, ones hit with bullets of the same color, or ones hit with bullets of the opposite color. I think Ikaruga in general is a bit overrated, but I have to admit that it's one of the most elegantly conceptualized games ever, and just those minor differences alone make you feel like you're playing an entirely different game. Just suck it up and do Easy mode if the speed is too much, since accidentally switching in the middle of shooting an enemy is responsible for like half of the times you die when you first play the game.
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>>386282195
He has a point though. Touhou definitely isn't the hardest game ever.
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Not trying to be a shitter here, but how DO you git gud at these games? Is it really just insane boss pattern recognition/memorization?
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>>386282060
He's a huge faggot and a shitposter who couldn't git gud at the games
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>>386281059
Read the bullet patterns, be autisitic af, or play normal
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>>386282128
gg git good fag.
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>>386282195
I actually haven't even beaten most Touhous on hard, but I don't need to be able to beat them in order to be able to know that there are harder games.
I did beat that stage, though. Koishi is hard but sanae is easy.
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>>386282367
Pretty much.
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>>386282373
You sound new, maze shitposts about the games being too easy and gloats about how good he is.
Unless he falseflags too, but I see no reason to believe that from this.
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>>386282367
I think that fundamentals are the most important. If you don't have very precise movement and reactions knowing the patterns won't help you get through them. Really just keep ramming your head against that wall until you eventually break through.
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>2 on 1 boss fights
this should not be allowed
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>>386282367
The stage is mostly memorization.
Most boss spells become significantly easier after you remember the pattern. Only a few spells actually requires really good precision.
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>>386282367
Depends. There are a couple of different subtypes of bullet hells: the ones that are littlerally just bullet-mazes like Tohou, the ones with puzzle elements like the Treasure shooters, and others that don't quite fit into either category like Dariusburst. For the bullet mazes,yes-- you basically just have to memorize them.
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>>386280204
>Play easiest shmup franchise
>Cry about how it is too difficulty and unfair
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>>386282731
okay, buddy, calm down. No one gives a shit if you're good at the games
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>>386282589
t. MaZe
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>>386282805
No one one gives a shit either if you suck at them.
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>>386282805
He doesn't need to be good to understand that other shmups are harder, you retarded faggot.
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>>386281298
>touhou 8
literally, (literally), babby's first bullet hell
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>>386282367
Play a lot until you learn how to properly "see" your character. After that its a matter of memorization and precise movement.
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>>386282829
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Is this the Dark Souls of Shoot 'em Ups?
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Touhou is pretty much the hardest shmup series ever created.
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>>386283001
13 is even easier although I guess you could say 8 is still babby's first danmaku because nobody starts with 13.
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>>386283130
I think Silvergun is the Dark Souls of Shmups just by virtue of being so goddamn bleak, but pretty much every bullet hell is the Dark Souls of Shoot Em Ups in terms of difficulty.
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>>386283130
I can't fucking stand this analogy. Everytime I see it, my testicles seep back into my body and the veins in my head pop
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>>386283130
Bullet hells are generally harder than other game genres. It's probably the CoD of shooting games.
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>>386283116
Gotcha
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>>386283235
>danmaku
weebs get out
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>>386283269
Its especially great when they say "[game that isnt DaS] is the DaS of action rpgs".
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>>386283345
Game is already for weebs anyway
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>>386283478
2hu when
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>>386283316
Hopefully you're just playing pretend
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>>386283074
>>386282726
>>386282723
>>386282594
>>386282471
Sounds pretty interesting. Used to play the impossible game religiously at school although this seems like quite a step up. Been looking for that kind of thing though so thanks anons
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>>386283605
Your such a funny guy Mazey-kun
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>>386283715
MEE
MAW
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>>386283245
>tfw you realize that Ikaruga is the nirvana that breaks you out of the cycle of endless rebirth and misery of Radiant Silvergun
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>>386283702
Keep calling me maze it's making me hard.
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>>386281510
Which Kanakp doujin is this?
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OP HERE. FUCK YOU GUYS. THE GAMES ARE RNG AND THEY ARE FUCKING HARD. FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU AND FUCK TOUHOU AND FUCK ZUN.
IF YOU WERE DRINKING A SODA AND I CAME UP TO YOU AND SAID "I'M GONNA SOIL YOUR DRINK" WOULD YOU KNOW IF I WAS GONNA SHIT OR PISS IN IT? NO, BECAUSE IT'S RNG.
AND TOUHOU IS REGARDED AS ONE OF THE HARDEST BULLET HELL SERIES OUT THERE, DO NOT PRETEND
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>>386283854
MAZE
MaZe
Mazey
Mazey-kun
meez
miss
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>>386283116
>tumblr gifs
Never post again
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>>386279034
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>>386283835
Did either game ever say what the fuck was so important about the Stone-like? What was it even doing throughout the games?
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>>386284192
It was some semi-sentient god rock from what I can tell. It directly killed everyone on earth in RS and also was the heart of the final boss, but other than that it never says what it has to do with all the flying shit in the games.
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>>386281724
Don't watch all of it, just watch the spots where you're going to be and are.
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>>386284192
It was Earth's guardian, it both killed humanity but also keeps remaking it so it'll "Do again, only this time do it right!"
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Is it okay to use Continues? I feel like it's no different to losing.
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>>386285143
If you're just starting out, yes. But if you wanna git-gud you should eventually stop using them.
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>>386285143
If you're just playing for fun, yes.
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>>386279642
I've seen this art style before I can't remember this artist name.
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Anyone else excited for HSiFS?
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>>386280932
The one with the biggest titty
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Name ONE (1) spellcard better than Border of Wave and Particle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc07psNZbJo
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>>386286372
define "better"
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>>386280932
I want patchouli
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>>386286372
every other spell card
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Dodge better, faggot.
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>>386286372
>Le rings with 291381*sin(t/4) direction!!!!!
Kill yourself, there's a reason this card is a meme in fangames. Also there's a safespot by just going up to the boss.
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>>386286372
Divine virtue of wind god.
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>>386283130
Kill yourself.
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>>386283245
>>386283281
Where does Gradius III fall in this?
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>>386286372
Human's are Nice is probably one of my favorite spell cards ever, time out some day
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>>386286117
Right here! That shottype gimmick is all kinds of good, lots of different shots to experiment with and I like that.

I'll start with best girl in pic related + Spring and go from there.


What shots are you planning to use, anons?
You have played the demo, right?
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>>386280932
too many to list
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>>386287756
Ayayaya + Ayayaya's season
Every other choice is simply inferior
Especially Marisa, she sux
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>>386287756
Fall Aya. Just going to release spam my way to a 1cc.
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>>386287641
Personal hell.
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Who is the definitive best character gameplay wise, /v/?
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>>386279034
I've never played a Bullet Hell before, what game should I play?
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>>386287756
I sure did anon! I like ReimuSp and CirnoSu the best, but I'll probably love all of them when the full game releases. I have only played on hard a few times and got a NBNR but that's because I just prefer to play all of the game at once, the demo was nice to get my feet wet though.
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>>386279034
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>>386288165
Touhou 7
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>>386283345
blow me
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>>386288082
Reimu. Any other answers come from delusional waifufags
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>>386288215
THINKING 2hus are pretty cute.
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>>386288082
Alice. Because I'm a waifufag.
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>>386288082
TD Youmu. The rest of the game wasn't special but she was great.
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>>386288165
Play Mars Matrix.
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>>386279034
Git gud hahahhahahahhahahahhahaha
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>>386280204
google "RNG"
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>>386280346
>Even the Japanese have to actually train with these games to get good.
are you trying to imply that gooks are somehow inherently better at games than whites
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>>386288165
Incarnation of Red Satan
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I found a screenshot for the 4th boss of TH16. My dad works for Team Shanghai Alice so I can verify with 100% accuracy that this is real.
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>>386282367
Its more about movement rather than precision. Hell, even the game's manual recommends d-pad over keyboard.

Don't just mind-lessly dodge them, pretty much impossible to beat with mind-less dodging. Learn how bullets move and lure bullets so you'll have more space to dodge.
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>>386280932
wchih 2hu WUDNT i fuk
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>>386282367
Hold Shift for focused movement
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>>386279034
I mean pretty much all shmups aren't balanced, that's why bombs exist, to cover for a lack of good game design
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>>386289996
aren't there characters that actually speed up when you shift?
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isnt the point of a bullet hell to practice till you can dodge every or almost every bullet? and usually isnt it one hit kill? the genrea is designed to be unbalanced this is not considered a negative
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>>386286372
Boundary of Wave and Particle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tEwet8KAz0
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>>386288165
>>386282367
If you want an easy 1cc play Marisa B on MoF and make sure to always have 3 lasers to melt stuff.

Or

Go search on youtube 'touhou ddc broken" and try those glitches/exploits
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>>386290424
did you really unironically save an image macro featuring top and bottom text?
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>>386290497
i found it seconds ago on google
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I don't know what's funnier, the people posting that Touhou is one of the hardest games of all time, or that it doesn't have RNG.
>What is Subterranean Animism
>What is Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
>What is Mystic Square
>What is Highly Responsive to RNG aka. where will the fucking orb fly today?
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>>386290597
HRTP is not a real touhou game and we all agreed to never speak of it
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>>386288209
>NBNR Hard
That's great anon. I've started playing 2hu after LoLK came out and I'm not that good yet, but HSiFS marks my first Touhou demo that I played, so I'm happy for that. Only managed to clear Normal a couple of times with her and Reimu + Winter.
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>>386290597
who are you quoting?
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>>386289672
>My dad works for Team Shanghai Alice
Thanks for the leak but underage b&
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>>386290597
But nobody cares about or even played HRTP
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>>386290826
it's a meme you dip
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Touhou is not that difficult, pretty much average game considering most of regular games offers 20 hours of gameplay.

Regular games offers easy but lengthy campaign, that'll probably last about 20 hours.
Touhou only has about 30 or 20 minutes, but requires hours of practices to clear it.
Don't even need 19.5 hours of practice, 10 hours at max.

Learn different types of bullets, its pattern, how it moves towards you, its hit boxes,
how you get bombs/healths, and how you conserve them.

Only intimidating thing about the game is just the visuals desu.
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I've only played the PC-98 Touhou games, recommend me some of the Windows ones, /v/
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Reminder that Poowho is so casual and easy that it doesn't even fit on this list
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>>386291043
6/7/8/10/11
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>>386291043
Play everything except 8 and 12
>>386291151
>8
BABBY'S FIRST BULLET HELL
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>>386290667
>>386290830
HRTP Reimu is the best Reimu
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>>386291043
Play all of them in order.
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>>386286372
Fitful Nightmare
Hell's Tokamak
PDH
Astronomical Entombing is pure fun
and fighting blind gapfaggotry with gapfaggotry, Phantasm Foam and Shadow
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>>386291130
Reminder that Touhou has had more cultural impact and significance than any of those games.
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>>386291332
Lotus Land Story Reimu with the checkered apron is the best one and you know I'm right
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Touhou to STGs is what Persona is to SMT. Casual, fun, and unless you're a hardcore neckbeard contrarian, more enjoyable.
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>>386291438
the one from the "super player" screen?
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>>386287720
>Humans Are Nice
>wow what's this spell going to be like
>stick figures waddling everywhere like it's a fucking pedestrian scramble, tag and you're it, it = dead
>oh and they also shoot at you in sync periodically, since they're so Nice!
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>>386291383
LEL no, Poowho has never spawned a single other shump except for Lenen (chinese Poupou ripoff)
>B-BUT....... BUT THE INTERNET MEMES!!!!!!!!
Zen doesn't even make money off his shitty ass games, that's how bad they are LOL
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>>386279034
not enough SJW in that comment, anon but A for effort.
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>>386291664
No that's the nurse one I'm talking about the red apron one, you get it for clearing Normal I think??? I don't remember actually but yeah Super Player screen nurse reimu is hella cute too
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>only cleared 2 games
>on normal
>with continues
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>>386291692
>no money
Good. I really love when developers put their games out there for free. It shows that they actually enjoy what they're doing instead of just pumping games out for the cash
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>>386291809
then you didn't clear them, it's better to 1cc easy than to use continues on normal imo
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There is literally nothing wrong with IN's translation.
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>>386291692
>cultural impact and significance
>never spawned any other shump
how does one relate to the other? since when are STGs actually culturally singificant?
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>>386291826
>put their games out there for free
They aren't free, anon. Touhou's a big enough independent franchise though that he can support both his family and his desire to replace all of his biomass with alcohol.
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>>386291986
>pic
it's actually a 60/40 split I'd say, she's spiritually a millenial, look at team magic's IN bad end, or the fairy manga or the supplementary reads
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>>386287756
Reimu Fall, Reimu's homing plus the Fall spread seems like a really strong shottype for all situations... and the Fall season release seemed broken like fuck.
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>>386291787
not sure which one you're talking about, anon.
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>>386292414
don't make me boot up LLS again you fucker, I'll try to find it online
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>>386292348
>Fall season release seemed broken like fuck.
>season the game releases in is the strongest
Sasuga ZUN you alcoholic fuck.
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>>386292169
I really liked the Magic Team good end. Alice plays a really good straight man to Marisa's thievery.
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>>386291986
>>386292169
who the fuck played IN? literally babby's first bullet hell
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>>386292054
He makes money off the manga. The vast majority of doujin creators, along with ZUN, do not make enough money from sales to recoup the costs of printing copies of their works.
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>>386292169
Part of the issue is ZUN's own inconsistency. One moment she was a loner who avoid everyone and then she was a person who regularly holds doll shows in the human village for kids.
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>>386291986
>caring about the writing
everytime I see a cutscene, I start mashing CTRL. ZUN can't write for shit
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>>386280932
Literal

Perfection
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Perfect Cherry Blossom is the best Touhou game
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>>386292704
PCB is the second best, the best is MoF
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>>386292414
>>386292474
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>>386292786
ah, that is cute!
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>>386292569
Wouldn't really say Alice is a loner hermit. I'd say she's a girl who likes her peace but goes to the Human Village from time to time to get stuff and does stuff for the village in return.
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>>386279034
Shut the fuck up.
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>>386292895
recorded with hypercam 2 on a fucking potato
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>>386292895
absolutely mad
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>>386292895
sans is harder
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>>386292786
Cute drawing.
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>>386292992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwa6N7jnm2c
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>>386293079
>Tool-Assisted
what a way to kill your own argument before you even formed one
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>>386292786
Man, Reimu should buy a cute, normal, non-armpit-showing dress from Kourindou someday.
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>>386283907
Look up Bonten on the Panda, it's the only 2hu doujin there is.
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will the amanojaku ever meet the amomnojaku?
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>>386293079
How many hours a day do you think people play to get to this level of skill?
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>>386291865
Easy gives you an entire level or at least one hard boss fight less, so I disagree.
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>>386293140
>shitter complaining about how touhou is unbalanced while posting an easy pattern
>post an example of an actual unbalanced boss
>lol wtf dude? wheres your argument

>>386293329
You don't, that replay was cheated and Inbachi still remains undefeated, even 5 years after the game's release.
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>>386293140
>TAS because it's so hard no one has beaten it yet
>meanwhile "le hardest 2hu evar!!" LoLK was already no-miss no-bomb lunatic cleared 2 months after release
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>>386283245
Silvergun's story was pretty run-of-the-mill anime garbage, it only seemed intense and dark because of the game's god-tier soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXpJymMVILM
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>>386293271
Anon, Seija is dead.
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>>386280932
my wife
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>>386293462
that's only in EoSD

Mountain of Faith's Easy is not very inferior to Normal. Easy bosses stay easy, hard bosses stay hard. Kanako is a bitch on both difficulties, Aya is a joke on both difficulties
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>>386279034
mfw pachy's stage for the first time
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>>386293271
With love of course

>>386293591
Seija is alive and well
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>>386293553
Silvergun has the best OST of any shootem up.
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EoSD is my favorite 2hu game, but I haven't tried the older ones. Someone give me a rundown on 1-5 and if they're worth playing or at least checking out.
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>>386293708
i fucking hate seija so much oh my god
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>>386293681
Its one of those that seems impossible at first but its not actually bad when you know what to do. PCB stage 4 was the same.
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>>386293759
>Reimu promotes Social Darwinism and beats up Manly Tears
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>>386293841
NO
>>I<<(me) hate her
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>>386293759
1 isn't a shmup
2 is the most bare shmup
3 is pofv but with worse hitboxes
4 is yuuka's game. Better than 2 by a lot.
5 EoSD proto. Best of the PC98 games.
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>>386293873
it intimidated me because the screen just fills up out of nowhere then I spaghetti. After coming out of meiling's chimes I got spooked.
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>>386293553
The actual anime portions were indeed garbage tier animation except for the ending cutscene, but the story actually was pretty fucked up.

I agree with you on the soundtrack, though
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>>386279034
Touhou is entry level SHMUP. Come back when you can 1CC an actual Bullet Hell
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>>386293990
But are they worth playing?
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>>386293759
1. isn't a game
2. the only thing it has going for it is red marisa and mima
3. objectively the best cast out of all touhou games, average gameplay
4. good gameplay, unmemorable spellcards, has Yuuka so it has that going for it I guess
5. very memorable spellcards, only Shinki and Alice are relevant characters
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>>386294159
4 and 5, definitely.
1-3 if you are curious.
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>>386294136
If you're gonna bait for replies, you might as well go full dadcore and condemn bullet hell shmups as a whole.
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>>386290158
We don't talk about PoFV around here
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>>386290695
Oh yeah, this is also my first demo, and in a few days we are both going to experience our first release, feels great, doesn't it?
>>386291674
They really are, for giving you such fun time!
>>386294213
Shinki is pretty great
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>>386283203
> t. Someone who doesn't play obscure homebrews downloaded from abandoned usergroups.
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>>386279034
Ok these games are shit but you gotta keep in mind that on the internet almost everyone is a weeb. Theres no other cure than nukes and they will never change their minds.
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>>386294957
>implying a nuclear apocalypse could kill off touhou
civilization as we know it could be lost and doujins and danmakufu would still be made
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>>386294957
this. WAKE UP YOU FUCKING BRAINDEAD SHEEP. TOUHOU IS NOT AND NEVER WAS GOOD
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>>386294957
>Theres no other cure than nukes
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>There are people who enjoy Touhou Project.
>There are people who will defend Touhou Project.
>There are people who like the shitty generic "why-foo" from Touhou Project.
>There people who delve deep into Touhou Project's """lore""" and muh continuity.
Indie Sonic.
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>>386295189
At least the girls are cute.
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>>386294208
>Master spark
>Yuuka's final flower pattern
>Elly's scythe trowing patterns
>Gengetsu Rape time

>unmemorable

The only patterns i remember from MS are the cheeto lasers, devil recitation and that one Alice spell where she trows tiny blue lasers between huge lasers.
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>>386295326
are these really memorable? i mean sure master spark is master spark but that's like I said that HRtP's characters are unmemorable and you mentioned Reimu. that's a given
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>>386295187
everytime I see a man fucking a body pillow, I get a deep hatred for the female population. If they would just fuck betas instead of chads, we wouldn't have these problems
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>tfw no【東方】 Koishi Komeiji's Heart-Throbbing Adventure Part 19 [9/9] (English)
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>>386295551
stop making this post before I delete your IP
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>>386295520
Every time women use contraceptives when fucking Chad I get a deep hatred for the female population. If they would make the next generation males only consist of cool dudes and non-losers the world would be a better place for everyone involved.
And I mean it unironically.
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>>386295816
d-delete this post...
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post touhou you fucking degenerates
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>>386295189
I want to hug Black Heart!
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>>386292895
I don't know how Junko is considered Bullshit but not this
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>>386295326
You're not even going to see Gengetsu Rape time in normal play, there's no real reason to mention it.
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>>386295551
Why do people like this series.
The edge was enjoyable at first but it got old pretty quickly.
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>>386296003
No. These threads always get ruined by faggots like you who only care about the girls. if you don't wanna discuss the games, make your own thread
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>>386296003
I like birbs like these.
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>>386296260
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>>386296141
"Better design" or so they say.
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>>386296195
I think waifu posting is fine if you're also discussing the games.
For example, Marisa is my waifu and as such I play her in every game. It's kind of interesting how she's changed over the years. ZUN must really be afraid of how op speed is, because it feels like she's getting nerfed every other game, or at least was during the religion arc. She's actually gotten decent buffs over the last three games, so I can't actually complain personally.

I wish we could get piercing back, but considering how mediocre these new piercing shots are no, Aya and Reisen are busted for every reason but their actual shots I have to wonder if it would be worth getting back.
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>>386296195
there's a general for gameplay discussion. there's also 32543623 game mechanics discussion threads on /jp/, go and kindly fuck off to those
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>>386280204
>>386279034
>He has never played bullet hells before
Nigger there are more games than touhou that are like that
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>>386296510
>there's also 32543623 game mechanics discussion threads on /jp/
32543623 shitposting threads and 1 roguelike general on /jp/, actually.
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>>386296510
>there's a general for gameplay discussion.
There are only two types of posters in those threads.
Shitposting top tier players, and players that are stuck on normal difficulty.
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>>386296510
If you don't wanna talk about video games on the video game board, you should fucking leave. Seriously, just make another thread with touhou in the OP and there, you've got a place to post your waifushit. Don't fuck up a perfectly fine gameplay-related thread
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>>386296505
>Not playing Reimu
Why would you want a larger hitbox and play some irrelevant side character when you could play the main character of the series?
>Short range
Off yourself, persuation needles or bust.
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>>386296505
Didn't her shot get nerfed too?
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>>386296818
>>386296664
>>386296629
>Being this analblasted about a waifufag
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>>386294957
Why can't korea drop a nuke on you instead
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>>386296827
Why would you ever want a large hitbox? The key is to use a character with a small one
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You guys playing Cirno's game?
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>>386281059
Grow up playing Life Force, Gradius, and Stinger on the NES, then the SNES/Genesis shooters, etc. etc. until 2017. You should be pretty good by then.

People see the screen full of bullets and assume it's super difficult, but it's pretty much the same strategy for every shmup: keep your gaze focused around your ship at all times.
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>>386297326
Cirno is one of the dumbest characters in the series. No idea why she got so popular
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>>386297326
EoSD or that other game?

>>386297382
Good music.
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>>386296914
It's been a bumpy road for her, power wise.
As far as I recall, whether or not Marisa has the highest damage output depends on the game.
As for recently, TD Marisa was actually kind of weak, and I believe she was outdamaged by Reimu in that game, though the AoE makes up for that somewhat.
DDC Marisa had the same damage, but her bomb was so amazing that nobody cared.
LoLK Marisa actually had a damage buff if I'm not mistaken, but that was overshadowed by how amazing Sanae was.
HSiFS Marisa seems to be the top dog again in terms of damage, and has the quickest boss kills out of the entire cast, so that's nice.

>>386296827
Because she's faster, the deuteragonist, has better bants, and I love her.
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>Search "tohou screenshot" on google images
>OP picture is in the first result
You didn't even play any of those games you fucking faggot, you just wanted an excuse to trigger weebs, admit it.
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>>386297382
She's not even super popular in Japan or anything. ZUN just likes to push her because she's his daughteru , just like how Aya is his waifu.
Why else would they get playable slots in the newest game?
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>>386297382
She debuted in EoSD.
Pretty much everyone who debuted there is popular as fuck to some extent, even Rumia still lingers around the middle ground area if only because of Team and EX fanon.
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>>386297574
Shit, didn't think 4chan would ignore the 9 symbol.
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>>386279034
Guaranteed replies
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W-whats something thats easier than touhou, ikaruga, mushihime sama and crimson clover
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>>386297515
it's the 4th result actually but I thought it was pretty obvious that OP was just trying to rile people up
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>>386297730
Masturbation.
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>>386297858
I think I can last longer in a Lunatic run than I can masturbating
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>>386297730
MECHA Ritz is super easy, anyone should be able to clear on their first or second try. There's a freeware version you can find if you don't want to pay for the souped-up version on steam. Other than that, maybe Blue Revolver.
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>>386279034
>Make Touhou thread to talk about the games
>Get 1 reply and it dies
So this is how you get a Touhou thread going.
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>>386296141
Cause the bullets there aren't additive-rendered so you can actually see all of them
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Yukari is the best boss in the entire series
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>>386297978
>Can't last while masturbating
Wat da fuk!? When you feel like you're gonna climax turn it down a notch untill the feeling has passed. Also don't fap to something 100% fetish intesive the entire time, but instead something that has both porn segments and non-porn segments while still stroking your willy in the non porn segments.
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>>386298136
Shitposting and other provocation is always how you get a thread going. Alternatively make it about something else than gameplay, like fetishes or cute girls.
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>>386298136
Making a Touhou thread on /v/ is unironically very hard. You have to make sure the OP specifically states that you're interested in talking about the gameplau not the girls, but you also have to make it clear that you don't really like touhou too much, otherwise you'll end up with replies telling you to go to /jp/. However, you can't be too anti-touhou or people will just suspect that you're shitposting
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I haven't played touhou in a long ass time. Are DDC and LoLK worth checking out? How is the new one shaping up?
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OLD HAGS ARE THE BEST
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>>386298427
>DDC
good
>LoLK
shit
>HSiFS
even worse
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>>386298454
No
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>>386298454
>OLD HAGS ARE THE BEST
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>>386298454
I want to touch Ran's tails and butt
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>>386293172
>Non-armpit-showing
Sacrilege.
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>>386279034
IS this actually bad game design though?
I mean, think about it...
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>>386279034
feels good man
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>>386298454
Eirin>>Shinki>Yuyuko>Kanakp>Byakuren>>Junko>Yuuka>shit>Yukari
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>>386298342
Jesus christ you have no idea how you've redpilled me, anon.
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>>386298342
If you make the thread about licking armpits or whatever, the only replies you'll get are desperate waifufags and the janny will take the thread down within minutes
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>>386280447
You probably cant beat a single shmup or bullet hell

Everyone ITT is a fucking faggot.
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>>386298407
Why not just try making normal threads? New game is around the corner, so you're bound to get replies, and jannies are usually alright with Touhou threads that are on topic.
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>>386298198
>>386296503
Well, I've never said that Junko it's not bullshit, but at least it's possible, not like Inbachi that I never seen someone who can beat her.
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>>386299535
There was a feet thread today, or yesterday that lasted hours. Any threads that start with a Hotaru or whatever the tit-cow is called are always tit/armpit threads. Occationally 2hu threads started with Reimu can turn into armpit threads. I've once or twice seen a Darkstalkers thread turn into an armpit thread.

>>386299405
It shouldn't be suprising. Most Fire Emblem threads start with a "[Game A] is better than [Game B]" or with waifuposting Cute.
CUTE!

Battlefield threads start with niggerposting and referring to BF1, Dagan Ronpa threads start with "damn this plot is stupid" and don't forget the common starter for all games "Can we all agree that [GAME] is shit?"
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>>386299996
And most Fire Emblem threads are shit.
You know what were the only consistently good FE threads for a while?
FE Heroes threads. Let that sink in.

>Giving a fuck about BF or Dagan Ronpa
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>>386299758
If you make a regular thread you'll get zero replies
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>>386300208
This thread would have gotten 0 replies too if you had made it several months ago.
It's just that there's literally a new game that is literally coming out literally less than a week from now.
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>>386300109
I was giving examples, not talking about my taste in video games.
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>>386300390
Just try it right now. It'll hit page 10 with 1 or 2 replies
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>>386300565
>Try making a thread while a thread that covers the exact same topic is active dude XD
Don't be stupid, anon.
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>>386300861
There's like 5 Persona threads up right now
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>critizising one of the easiest bullet hell games for its difficulty

Should've gone with boring scoring mechanics and everyone could agree desu
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>>386279034
in during a literal casualfag cries on the internet.
git gud faggit.
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>>386301075
Believe it or not, Persona is not a niche series anymore. You can have 5 ongoing Persona threads because there are that many Personafags on /v/. Meanwhile, Touhou is niche as fuck, and most people who care about the series are probably going to be here. I'm basically competing against an established thread over a group of people that are probably already tired of discussing the game for the night.
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>>386285817
It's from wikihow
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>>386301261
Good idea. In my next thread I'll say...hmm, what about "THIS SCORING SYSTEM IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. WHAT THE FUCK DOES HALF OF THIS SHIT EVEN MEAN? WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF THIS GARBAGE?" good?
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>>386301261
Touhou is a million times better than similar games like Dark Souls or Final Fantasy.
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>>386301463
I meant harder.
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>>386279034
what the fuck is a balanced shmup
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>>386279034
>he can't defeat an autistic shut-in vampire preschooler
wew
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>>386302938
>SA extra
>Flandre
Spotted the secondary.
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I love touhou!
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>>386292895
I went to training mode and selected the True Boss stage because finishing the entire game on Ultimate is harder than Touhou on lunatic.
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What did you expect, OP? It's Galaga mixed with Dark Souls.
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>>386304130
literally autistic
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>>386280932
fatchouli is best patchouli.
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I'll never be able to get good at these games if I have bad eyesight, right?
I have problems just following the bullet trajectories.
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>>386304640
That problem can be fixed by getting used to the patterns and lots of practice
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