City Building

You can set up a single mudhut to connect your labor pool to jobs. There, completely changes the game.
You can see why recruiter walkers were scrapped in sequels.

>>386278116
Like if I were to drop a mud-hut next to a fire and architect post in the same roadblock zone as a work camp, some farms, storage yards, and granaries, I won't have empty work camps anymore? Does one do or do I have to set up mini-ghettos in every industrial sector?

>>386279239
You've got a single worker pool, workplaces not fully staffed create a recruiter walker. If he walks past a house, he's able to recruit people.
I usually set up a big 4 square mud hut for no reason, but a single one should do. As long as you have enough unemployed workers and the recruiter can reach it, you're golden.

>>386279718
Alright, so I set up working ghettos around industry and what, use blocks to create palatial estates that exist for their own sake for my culture ratings?

>can't play Pharaoh because Zeus and Poseidon is so much better
Try it out too, that game is great, the campaigns are fun and challenging.

>>386280658
Density rises until the last 2x2 level, then it falls down. Tax income keeps rising dramatically, though

>>386281294
Pharaoh has way better monument construction

>roadblocks in pharaoh
Did I miss something? I don't remember them being there.

Oh man, the nostalgia. Fuck you OP now I have to play it again.

>>386281870
They were definitely there

>>386281294
Thanks anon, I'll give it a shot too. Been playing Pharaoh, tried Caesar a bit but those aqueducts got in the way of everything and I felt I was boxing myself in too early, too often.

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>>386277594
here op you want something like this

>>386282653
Good luck. I find city management to be way easier in Zeus. The only problem in that game is that some maps are too fucking small. There's only two or three missions in all the campaigns with that problem, but still. Never go to the map called "Taras", it will fuck you up.

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>>386277594

fuck. reinstalling

>>386283159
It's easier because the house supplies are much easier to produce, and there aren't entretainment venues to break up block loops

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>>386277594

>implying this game is hard

>>386283580
Yeah, they went even further in the Emperor: Rise of The Middle Kingdom and just made the market square house the entertainment dudes.

>>386282673
>Houses just to enable production
Have a road go along the houses on the outside ring of your block, with one tile of blank space (that you will fill with sanctuaries or gardens) one tile away from your block. Connect that road to the production buildings, so you won't have to build shitty poor houses everywhere. I don't know if that makes sense

>>386282673
I've never liked loop housing with garden centers. Not slummy enough like Egyptian cities would have been. Instead I made four large housing blocks in rectangle circled by services and broken as necessary by entertainment blocks and few gardens. Not optimal but who the fuck plays city-builders for max efficiency?

>>386283791
>who the fuck plays city-builders for max efficiency
Who the fuck masturbates to orgasm?
Nothing warms the cockles of my soul like a perfectly planned city.

>>386277594
Your city layout looks like a mess. Just go look up some easy layout on some guides and copy it.

>one god is always pissy
How does that even happen? Just throw a petty festival for every gods in order and build an equal amount of temples/shrines.

I really love this game but I kinda gave up near the end because it starts relying on your saved up money from the previous stage to beat the next stage. It's that one fucking stage where you get so little time to set up your town and army before some faggots come attacking. I burnt all my saving to survive barely intact and still lost later on because I go broke.

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>>386283751

>>386279718
>For no reason

No there's a reason, and it's that for whatever reason single mud huts would occasionally get their nearby buildings de-staffed whereas a 2x2 won't.

To be perfectly honest though, for an agricultural society the single-mud-hut living conditions for employed men wasn't too far off from reality. This is because during farming seasons, the men needed to be near the fields to be productive, while the rest of their families would live in the nicer blocks in town. This is why many ancient holidays had harvest festivals that doubles as romantic holidays (Egypt is no exception), and it's because during these festivals, the men would go home with the harvest and their wives (who have been waiting for this for a year) would finally enjoy getting some fresh food and their brains fucked out.

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>>386283935

>>386283938
Aren't labour camps exactly the kind of shitty mud-hut for farmers you're talking about? You'd drop those near the flood plains so the little shits would be working the fields in time.

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>>386284082

>>386282673
>no entertainment

Enjoy your rough cottages

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>>386284082
> not building all populated blocks on the east side of the river and all the pyramids on the west side

Bro, do you even ancient Egypt superstition? Only the dead live in the west

>>386283791
I don't really think you can get rid of the "center garden" in the loop, because of how walkers work.
The loop has an optimal length due to walker range. You can build a loop eith its interior filled with houses, but if you shortned it's length by one, you could increase the height by one instead, and get space for gardens inside. So forth until dimnishing returns to due to decoration range

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>>386284367

>play Emperor: the rise of the chinks
>you have to manually increase the food quality in market squares every time you get a new food source
I kinda like the idea - it's silly for a city to eat nothing but cheese, but having to manually do that every time kinda sucks.

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>>386284558
The game does not permit that kind of realism on hard difficulty.

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Zeus is comfy too.

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>>386284883

Why nobody makes city builders anymore, they are so fucking rare.
I need something new and comfy.
Save me friends

>>386284978
Well there's another Tropico being pumped out

>>386284978
There's been a few, but they are usually hardcore survival crafting memes.

>>386285073
how different will it be though

the only city builder i still want to play is simcity classic, but all i can find are cheap knock offs from weird platforms, or virus ridden exes, or 'official' ones that only let me play in a tiny 200x200 window

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>>386284937
Looks comfy as hell, but you need 2nd line of defense to be safe.

>>386284978
Not that much you can do with them other than shiny shiny graphics. And it's not like the old ones have aged that badly either since they're sprite based.
Anno 1404
Zeus
Pharoh
Majesty 1

>>386285367
i know bro, but i've played all the city builders to death, that's why i need something new.
NEW SERIES NOW

>>386285205
Not at all
At least they're adding bridges and multiple islands, better than the eras and ship routes crap in 5

>>386285367
>majesty 1 is city building
I was always under the impression it was an RTS. I remember trying to play it when I was like 10 along with other RTS games and I had no fucking idea what was going on.

>>386285367
Anno is too much of a puzzle game for me

>>386285732
it's kind of a mix of things

>>386285925
ye it kinda hurts me, more than comfy builder i have to make a spaghetti of trades and production chains..
god forbid some resource ends, total collapse

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>>386286105
That's even worse in Banished, which is a pity. It's super comfy by aesthetics, but nerve-wrecking in gameplay.
What bothers me in Anno is the prevalence of stuff like this.
This is the ideal town. You might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>386286518
i fucking hate this minmaxing shit

>>386286613

Then don't, nobody is forcing you.

>>386277594
This is the only city builder I've ever played from this era.
I wanted to play a roman or greek one. What's the best?

>>386287167
>Greek
Zeus and Poseidon
>Roman
Ceasar

>>386287167
There's also a Chinese one called Emperor

>>386287614
>>386287709
I didn't realize this company made all these games. I just played the shit out of pharoh when I was younger.
I'm downloading them all.

>>386288010
Don't forget to look up the HD patch to play at 1080p

I've bought Anno 1404 recently and it's giving me headaches
No matter which pattern I try using for my house placement I feel like I have to plop so many chapels and they overlap

I'm starting to figure out how to use ship routes though so it's getting better

Pharaoh was a big game in my childhood

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which game had the best combat?

fug

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Since every city building thread ends up with SC4 anyway, can anybody help me? I'm trying to install Casual Addon Mod, but this piece of shit creates files that it doesn't have access to, and then promptly fails to install anything. This is infuriating.

>>386289117
Run as administrator?

Why did no games adopt Caesar 2 war and province system?

>>386289379
I have tried that, I have tried giving every user full control of the newly created folder, I plastered that retarded .dll it used to require all over my computer, and nothing works anyway.

>>386289517
There are a lot of why questions I'd love to ask the games industry

>>386289117
use a virtual machine with XP.

>>386289117
>>386290083
http://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/70363-some-weird-dll-needed-to-install-the-cam/

thread here looks like it shouldn't be necessary anymore since the guy updated the installer or something, i dunno, never used the mod.

>>386286518
>This is the ideal town. You might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
Actually laughed at this. But yeah, never found building 100% optimally that fun, it just makes the game feel too formulaic. For example, now I'm playing Cities Skylines and doing grid cities would be objectively superior to anything else, but fuck that. It leads to cities that all build the same, look the same, feel the same and thusly just get me bored with the game.

>>386277594
Just play anno 1404. It's comfy as fuck

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>Try to build comfy town
>It ended up being powergaming tryhard town
Help

>>386291474
Stop thinking about the game in terms of its rules and start thinking as if the game was the world.

i.e. don't optimize. let it grow naturally. Build a building somewhere when you need it approximately over there, not just because it satisfies your need for geometric symmetry.

>>386283918
>Your city layout looks like a mess
Found it on google, my man
>>386291474
Same, prompted my OP
>>386292035
Started doing this thanks to this thread. Went back to Sandbox, created a nice little neighborhood in the west side grain fields with water lift and irrigation, then when it was going strong with straw in the yards and grain in the granaries I built barley farms in the inundation up the road, then when that was good I expanded another set of farms in Grainsville, then started on gold mining after building a palace.
Trying to fulfill my dream of several villages working separate industries that evolves into a diverse, prosperous city.
First thing I did was set up a highway system to my first three prospective settlements. >>386284082
What's the benefit of multiple roadblocks lined up?

>>386292370
>What's the benefit of multiple roadblocks lined up?
If you have another road touching the building with walkers you sometimes have to put several roadblocks in a row to prevent them from spawning there.

Is this game like AoE?

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>>386277594
>tfw you used to love walkers but now they are too easy

>>386292837
No, it's about building cities, providing various amenities for your citizens and building big ass monuments.

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Which game had the best aesthetics for finished cities, /v/? Or wich one was your personal favorite?

I always thought Zeus was the only one that looked more or less like an actual city after most of the map was used. Having some place where the entire screen was filled with stuff felt both amazing to watch and fullfilling.

So...How does those Egyptian get those stone blocks up the pyramid?
Hard mode:No ayyylmao

>>386294402
Cranes, duh.

>install sim city 4
>play for 3 hours
>try to save the game
>game crashes, save is gone
>google problem: no solution, just deal with it lol
>uninstall sc4

Tropico 5 was okay, but every.fucking.mission had a time limit. It's the ultimate anti-comfy in builders. Why do they do this?

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>>386295196
>Why do they do this?
It's the easiest/laziest fail condition that devs can add to make a game """challenging""". It is a legit challenge (I'd never call it artificial difficulty), you need to be efficient to beat it but it just isn't fun.

>>386295106
The same thing happened to me in The Sims (in all of them except the first, if I recall). The chances in the game file become so massive after some time that the computer doesn't allow the game to chance archives or something, it's ridiculous. Good thing this type of problem doesn't happen is these old games.

>>386295493
change*

Fuck, got it wrong both times

>>386277594
The most fun I ever had with a game of Pharaoh was the time I made it so the entire city was surrounded by a wall, there was nothing for people to eat except flax, and as soon as plague began to spread I sealed the doors and watched everyone trying to escape.

>>386295646
desu this kind of thing isn't funny or interesting to do like it is in a game in the style of the sims, when your city fail at something everything just crumbles and gets destroyed, it's no fun to watch, just stressful

>>386291474
In SimCity: go ahead and make a "supergrid" of streets, but fill them in with random roads. OldShoes or whats his name has some infographics to that effect. If the city building gen ever gets revived on /vg try lurking there.

>>386295376
>there will never be a tropico 2 remake

Aside from 2, which is the comfiest out of 3, 4 and 5? My vote goes for 4.

What are same city builders which have some decent combat, preferably mainly defensive/turtling?

Something like Settlers or Stronghold. Something more complex than Tropico.

>>386296702
4 is probably the most "complete", but adds a lot of things that simply make the game a cake walk.

I personally like 3 with the dlcs, but it still just feels like 4 eventually. 5 is terrible. Hopefully 6 with it's multiple islands will be much better.

tfw anno series is dead
I wish there are one set in 20th century but
>muh number sum gotta be 9

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>>386297087
>>muh number sum gotta be 9
mind = blown

>>386296976
What did you hate in 5 so much?
I played 4 and 5, and I prefer 4 but 5 was "okay".

Although it was a bit shitty that tourism was timegated to later eras only.

>>386297087
2007, duh

>>386297306
I felt like it advances through the "ages" too quickly. You go from quiet hamlet with barely anything to a super city in next to no time at all. You lose the feeling of being a banana republic and instead become a normal city builder with latino music.

>>386277594
http://pharaoh.heavengames.com/strategy/housing/index.shtml

Google is your buddy, faggot.